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Speaker 3: This is media Mash, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, drumping

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Speaker 3: wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of

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Speaker 3: your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host new he scrugs.

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Speaker 4: Here we are on Thursday, everybody media mash with two

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Speaker 4: of your favorites that covered the team. You've got the

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Speaker 4: longest tenured beat rider, most trusted, my favorite fraternity brother,

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Speaker 4: Thanksci fi Claires heel. I don't know in all City Dallas, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know if he's sincere about any of it.

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Speaker 4: Next, the Hall of Famer Ed Murder is here, also

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Speaker 4: works over Chanley.

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Speaker 5: But I got a question.

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Speaker 6: Since Jacques not here, we're down a man. So this

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Speaker 6: is the equivalent of the Cowboys being without who.

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Speaker 5: Dak certainly Deron Bland, Deron Bland.

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Speaker 4: You know, the ability to take it back to the house,

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Speaker 4: you know, five five times?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 5: Not like playing without Mike. Uh, not like playing without Tank.

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Speaker 4: I just think Doron Bland just what he did last year.

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Speaker 4: I think Jack and.

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Speaker 6: I think there's similar questions about in both regards about

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Speaker 6: Will the guy come back.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Wow, Wow, we're not doing this. We're not doing it.

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Speaker 2: I did just take text, uh Nick Harrison if we

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Speaker 2: want to pop down?

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Speaker 6: If he's still okay, oh this is your podcast to

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Speaker 6: invite people.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yesterday we needed a spot filled. And he calls

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Speaker 4: I Joey.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying that we got a rotation, said, when

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Speaker 7: I tell you, Lfe.

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Speaker 2: But that's not that's not believe me.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know he was a kingmaker.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a king maker.

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Speaker 7: I just have relationships with people. Have their number in

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Speaker 7: my phone, like Lebron, I have the number of.

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Speaker 6: My man who invites the parties. Said, he's not organizing,

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Speaker 6: they're they're already.

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Speaker 7: No, they're already in the rotation, already in the rotation.

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Speaker 7: We have a rotation. And right wrong, Chris.

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Speaker 4: He has a rotation.

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Speaker 2: Chris, Yes, do we have rotation?

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Speaker 5: Yes you do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, except for Tuesdays. Tuesdays. Stop it, stop it.

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Speaker 4: See So this is what I do love about the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Right here, Dallas Cowboys, Chris being producer. Short there Chris

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Speaker 4: sits in the back and he's like a sniper man.

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Speaker 4: He is a true sniper. I mean Chris Kyle would

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Speaker 4: be proud and everyone on you. So he inspired it.

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Speaker 4: Clarence and Claire's gonna come at me? That was Chris,

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Speaker 4: will just hit you.

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Speaker 2: That was me. I didn't come at you.

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Speaker 5: That's funny thing the fans know.

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Speaker 4: I come like this is Chris.

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about the cowboy?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Play media please?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Okay. Let us start off with since you you were

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Speaker 4: just both coming from the locker room Zach Martin. So

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Speaker 4: Michael Parsons decided to come out when asked by Ry

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Speaker 4: Epstein about Mike McCarthy's status, and decided to make Zach

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Speaker 4: for Zach Martin and Zach, you know, basically gonna be

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Speaker 4: done after this year. So did did he? Did he

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Speaker 4: announce a retirement? To what did Zach give us? How

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Speaker 4: did he? How did he see everything there as he

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, Zach wanted no part of their

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Speaker 7: plan for me. And he's right, you know, everybody's trying

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Speaker 7: It was magnanimous and Mike, I want to win for

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Speaker 6: I think Mike McCarthy that was very magnanimous. I don't

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Speaker 6: think they called him up on Monday and Mike and

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Speaker 6: so magnanimous in your commentary post game.

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Speaker 7: Yes, everybody got the perspective. We're talking about the Zach

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Speaker 5: It, but I'm talking about the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I understand. But he was that we were specifically talking

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Speaker 5: I know you want to be on this podcast.

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Speaker 7: I said he was wrong and out of the line.

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Speaker 7: I said it was disrespectful. He just I said all

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Speaker 7: of all, the contract says he's done unless he you know,

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Speaker 7: hinted about, you know, last year. Certainly he did not

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Speaker 7: we all understand all that part of it, But more importantly,

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Speaker 7: he didn't want to get into and continue the narrative

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Speaker 7: about put it pitting Mike, I mean Mike against him,

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Speaker 7: you know, and he wasn't and that's he ain't one

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Speaker 6: He doesn't want to be a sympathetic figure and he

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Speaker 6: He just wants to play football to the best of

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Speaker 7: Yes, and he's injured, and we talked about him playing

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Speaker 7: herd and he wanted the sympathy by having to go

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Speaker 7: everybody's dealing with throughout the your Clearly he's not having

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Speaker 7: his best year, clearing he hasn't been the best, you know,

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Speaker 2: And you know it's it's he.

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Speaker 7: Held out last year for more money because the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: Got his money.

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Speaker 6: Everybody does a great job here getting their money right Dak.

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Speaker 6: Can you imagine if Dak didn't get his money before

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Speaker 6: we won that he'd be thirty two years old.

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys that have a high pick. He'd be coming

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Speaker 6: Statistical season have a major injury for the second time

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Speaker 6: in five years. Instead, he's guaranteed his spot here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so he got his money even though he has

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Speaker 7: not the investment has not been returned whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: Injuries so far. Oh well.

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Speaker 6: Though, eight more preseason games like that and they and

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Speaker 2: So he won only the way I have to do.

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Speaker 2: The first battle.

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Speaker 7: Hall of Famer must respect for his entire career, but

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Speaker 2: When he held Jerry Wood battle, Barrett.

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Speaker 4: What is Zach's cap number next year?

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Speaker 7: I have to look it up, man, But you know

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Speaker 7: But they were talking about the salaries and having you know,

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Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence's contract.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so staying.

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Speaker 5: On Zach Martin, his cap hit for this year is

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Speaker 5: fifteen to five.

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Speaker 4: Next year, next year, next year, just yeah, yeah, next

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Speaker 4: year when he's gone, he's kind of you know that.

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Speaker 4: That's where people I thought kind of got confused about

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Speaker 4: Dak Prescott in his contract too, not understanding in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five he was gonna carry forty one million dollar hit. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that was factored into them bringing him back here.

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Speaker 4: And I would assume most Cowboy fans, if they don't

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Speaker 6: According to spo track, his cap hit for next year

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Speaker 7: Right, So that's what they have to eat and that's

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Speaker 7: DeMarcus Lawrence. And that's why Jerry was never all in

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Speaker 7: you know, having to manage deals for DAK and deals

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Speaker 7: They have to eat on the cap because Zach Martin

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Speaker 4: And what's what's Tank's cap hit going to be in

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Speaker 5: They just got off that site.

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Speaker 6: Mane, you can do it during the break, maybe I

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Speaker 4: If we can do that during the break. But that's

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Speaker 4: something that's very significant, just because we're fans who are

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Speaker 4: now looking toward twenty twenty five. You're thinking if Tank

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Speaker 4: that's they're they're going there's a hit there. So the

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Speaker 4: ability to say, hey, go in a free agency and

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Speaker 4: That's that's significant and definitely is going to change some

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Speaker 4: theories about what they do. But also it makes you

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Speaker 4: wonder what head coach comes in here.

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Speaker 5: And that's what I was going to say.

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Speaker 6: All of that figures into macarthy's how do coaches look

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Speaker 6: at the prospective coaches look at the situation here, like,

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Speaker 6: do they think they can build a winning roster around

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Speaker 6: the number that Dak has now given where he is

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Speaker 6: in his career.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that.

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Speaker 6: And then, like you said, some of this dead cap money,

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Speaker 6: and you know, they don't have a fourth round pick. Now,

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Speaker 6: they're gonna have a high first, a high second.

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Speaker 5: A third, some comp picks.

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Speaker 6: But just how do they see the roster being set

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Speaker 6: up for them to be able to create a way

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Speaker 4: So stay right, they woud talk about the fourth round

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Speaker 4: pick they traded to Carolina for Jonathan Mingo, the wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: He did not play last week. Mike McCarthy anticipated anticipates

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Speaker 4: him playing, says he's going to play on Monday night

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Speaker 4: against Houston. You when we just spit out these numbers

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Speaker 4: talking about the cat Man, that just that fourth round

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Speaker 4: which people already payned. Now when you talk about just

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Speaker 4: disability of how much you're going.

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Speaker 6: To But if he's a starting receiver, you're getting him

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Speaker 6: for low money on the cap.

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Speaker 4: Yes, would help.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if they're right about him, if he's a starting receiver, if.

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Speaker 2: I think that the problem here is that he did.

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Speaker 5: The thrower Cooper rush the other end of the past.

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Speaker 7: Ye you know you're not going to really see what

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Speaker 4: And so clar I just said, if you're trying to find.

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Speaker 4: True, like I see.

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Speaker 2: Named David Moore.

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Speaker 5: You could beat by a guy named David Moore.

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Speaker 7: No, this dude getting beat out by a guy named

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Speaker 4: Once again, I said it with if you're looking for

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Speaker 4: I say it, Okay, I'm doing the Jerry one plus

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Speaker 6: fourth round pick for him. What does that say about Flornoy?

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Speaker 5: They elevated him to the roster.

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Speaker 2: It was a seventh round pick.

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Speaker 6: For Flornoy was everything they thought he was going to

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Speaker 5: Would they go make this trade?

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Speaker 7: I don't think that they They had no choice. Let's

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Speaker 5: What do you mean they had no choice?

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Speaker 2: Who else did they have?

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Speaker 6: And what wide receiver? Yeah, they had no choice but

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Speaker 5: It's been it's been is could you draft a running back?

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Speaker 7: he's you know, he has flaws. You have obvious flaws

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Speaker 6: This saying if they were encouraged by what they've seen

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Speaker 7: I don't think they thought it would cold p capable

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Speaker 4: And I look at I look at the player, by

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Speaker 7: I mean, Jaalen Brooks was a seven round pick the

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Speaker 2: And David Moore in Carolina that that I played this guy.

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Speaker 5: What was Drew Pearson Smith?

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Speaker 2: Way? That's not that way, Drew Pearson?

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Speaker 5: What about Rod Smith? What about Ed McCaffrey.

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Speaker 7: Smith was a long time I'm sorry, Ross Smith was

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Speaker 2: Way back into the depths. How about the last five years?

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Speaker 7: I said five And that's the point of COVID. It

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Speaker 6: But the other the other interesting thing McCarthy said today

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Speaker 5: That would be the only explanation for getting away from him.

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Speaker 7: Well, all I know is that he has averaged last

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Speaker 7: three weeks. I think he's been doing five yards to carry.

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Speaker 7: You know, when he's been on the field. You're going

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Speaker 7: back to the Pittsburgh game, and he when he's been

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Speaker 7: on the field and he's been rolling, he's you know,

449
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Speaker 7: going back to the Atlanta game. He had a good game,

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Speaker 7: you know, and just keep giving him the ball. You know,

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Speaker 7: there's you know, it's funny because we started off season,

452
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Speaker 7: so it's gonna be a running back by committee. That's

453
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Speaker 7: the best for these backs. The best of what we

454
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Speaker 7: got is best for this team. A lot of teams

455
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Speaker 7: are doing it. This is the way to go running

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Speaker 7: running back back committee. We always understood when you got

457
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Speaker 7: two backs, you got three backs, you ain't got one.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're doing a running back back committee. Because

459
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Speaker 7: no one has asserted themselves, no one has taken the mantle.

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Speaker 7: And over the course of the season, Mike has continued

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Speaker 7: to defend the rotation, you know, different series and stuff

462
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Speaker 7: like that, running back by committee. But slowly, but surely,

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Speaker 7: certainly it has become he had announced it, but Rico

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Speaker 7: has been the bell cow. He has had the great majority.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a special player, though.

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Speaker 2: No I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. And that was that was the next

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Speaker 4: thing I was going to say, is you go back

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Speaker 4: to what Jerry talked about the beginning all In. I

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Speaker 4: don't think anybody thought all In was going to be

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Speaker 4: Rico Daddle being your lead dog.

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Speaker 6: Not when there were so many good free agent running backs,

473
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Speaker 6: some of whom McCarthy had history with, Aaron Jones, Joe Mixon,

474
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Speaker 6: forget Saquon Barkley and Derek Henry. Everybody knew they were potentially.

475
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Speaker 6: You bring up Dobbins every week.

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Speaker 5: He is a good player, and and and that's that's it.

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Speaker 7: Because it frustrates me because I hear people say, well,

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Speaker 7: I don't care. You know, if you would have got

479
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Speaker 7: Saquan or or Henry, they wouldn't have made good here

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Speaker 7: because obviously, no, that's not true, because Rico's has been

481
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Speaker 7: good here when they've used him, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so now you put a better back in.

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Speaker 7: Those opportunities because there's still no breakaway run, there's still

484
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Speaker 7: no big run.

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Speaker 2: You put up better back in those opportunities. They would

486
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Speaker 2: have success. They would have more success than Rico's at.

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Speaker 6: There's no explosive anything, no on this offense. This is

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Speaker 6: the most confounding team I think I've ever covered in

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Speaker 6: all the years i've been here, Like I've covered worst teams, maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 6: because I covered.

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Speaker 5: The one in fifteen Jimmy Johnson Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: We've all covered bad seasons, but this was This is

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Speaker 6: a unexpectedly bad and the depths to which they've reached

494
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Speaker 6: is beyond comprehension to me. When you look at start

495
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Speaker 6: of the season, sixteen straight home wins, longest streaking the NFL.

496
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Speaker 6: Now they're zero to four and it's minus ninety four

497
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Speaker 6: turnover differential, the worst in history for a team that

498
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Speaker 6: made the playoffs a year before. Just all these historic

499
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Speaker 6: numbers on the bad side that they're attaining, it's just

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Speaker 6: unthinkable that they're this bad.

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Speaker 4: With guys at training camp in the media calling it

502
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Speaker 4: out then like this is not it, you know, from

503
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Speaker 4: the receiving corps outside of CD, and CD wasn't there,

504
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Speaker 4: Like this is not it. From the running backs sick,

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Speaker 4: this is not it.

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Speaker 5: Defensive tackle, offensive.

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Speaker 4: Line, yes, yeah, anyway, I'm backer. You learned from you.

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Speaker 2: I learned from uh. But you know, and that's why

509
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Speaker 2: we were asking Zeke.

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Speaker 7: You know, we go back, I go back to training camp,

511
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Speaker 7: and they were not using Zeke and they were saving

512
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Speaker 7: him and one he would use him and practice a

513
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Speaker 7: lot in training camp, and.

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Speaker 6: Like saving him for the more important games late in

515
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Speaker 6: the year in the playoffs. Share even said we're saving

516
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Speaker 6: him for the playoffs. Playoffs, just trying to win a game.

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Speaker 5: Crazy.

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Speaker 7: None of it's how they built this thing. It just

519
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Speaker 7: none of it makes sense. And it has not made sense.

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Speaker 6: And no touchdowns and ten turnovers in their last two

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Speaker 6: games at home.

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Speaker 7: And and and the and the sad part is wow, yeah,

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Speaker 7: no touchdown.

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Speaker 6: That's a bad numb And one of the cool games

525
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Speaker 6: was a quarterback by Dak And then when you were

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Speaker 6: talking about Rico and Pittsburgh, it made me think of

527
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Speaker 6: the fumble he had that they recovered that one. But

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Speaker 6: how many zeke last week in the wrisk? How many

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Speaker 6: turtle does they have the red zone? CD had a fumble,

530
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Speaker 6: Cooper threw a pick in the end zone. Dack's thrown

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Speaker 6: two or three picks in the end.

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Speaker 2: One got lost in the lights, lost in the sun.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it was a rest.

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Speaker 5: On a turtle.

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Speaker 2: It was a red zone opportunity.

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Speaker 5: You're trying to shut this show down, put.

537
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Speaker 2: Curtain on the show. They're gonna put curtains.

538
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Speaker 5: On, the curtains on the season, not on the show.

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Speaker 2: Put curtains on the statenat curtain. This show is curtains.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't me. It's sister players. You know.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you heard jaylen toever yesterday, but

542
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Speaker 7: he said, you know, we see.

543
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Speaker 2: The sun when we see the ball.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes I wouldn't see the ball.

545
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Speaker 4: But that's not gonna be a problem. No, what will

546
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Speaker 4: be the problem.

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Speaker 7: It's funny because I've seen this sad about how the

548
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 7: Cowboys have lost all these games between three and seven,

549
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 7: three and seven, three and seven because the sun. No,

550
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 7: they lost those games between three and seven of the

551
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Speaker 7: last few years because the other.

552
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Speaker 6: Team was better, primarily, it would have still lost the

553
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Speaker 6: other day in all livelihood. Yes, yeah, even if he

554
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 6: catches it in their head, they're probably still gonna lose it.

555
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Speaker 2: It had nothing to do it.

556
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Speaker 7: And Jerry's right, and we can talk about it. When

557
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 7: we talked about yesterday, you could add in on that.

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Speaker 7: Jerry says a lot of things that are gone wrong,

559
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Speaker 7: a lot of things we need to prove on Soun's

560
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Speaker 7: way down on that list.

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Speaker 5: But it's on the list.

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Speaker 4: Don't you fix it?

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Speaker 6: So like, Okay, here's my thing. You You built this

564
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Speaker 6: dome stadium to eliminate all the outside elements, so why

565
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Speaker 6: not this one? Why won't you eliminate this one. It's

566
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Speaker 6: easy to do. You could probably sell a sponsor. It's

567
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Speaker 6: not going to cost you. But he can probably sell

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Speaker 6: a sponsor.

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Speaker 2: He won an indoor stating with outdoor field. That's what

570
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Speaker 2: he said in on the radial.

571
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Speaker 5: So how come the doors are always close on the

572
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Speaker 5: roofs always.

573
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Speaker 2: Shut, indoor stitting with outdoor field.

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Speaker 6: That doesn't feel outdoor. Minnesota feels outdoors. They have a

575
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Speaker 6: sun problem.

576
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Speaker 2: Trying to get are you now you trying to get

577
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Speaker 2: the show shut down?

578
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 5: No?

579
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Speaker 6: You forced me to ask this, and I'm just saying, like,

580
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Speaker 6: if your thirty five million dollar receiver says he lost

581
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Speaker 6: the ball and it costs you potential go ahead touchdown

582
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Speaker 6: in the division game when you need every point you

583
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: can get, maybe just say, okay, you know what, we'll consider.

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Speaker 5: We'll look into it.

585
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Speaker 7: I want to ask you something, because you've been following

586
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 7: this team just like me. How many times has the

587
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Speaker 7: sun affected the other team where they complained about.

588
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Speaker 5: It kind of was affecting them at the start of

589
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Speaker 5: that game the other day.

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Speaker 2: Did they complain about it. I'm just saying, but they

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Speaker 2: won the game.

592
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Speaker 7: I'm just saying I don't remember any opponent leaving the

593
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Speaker 7: game and losing to the Cowboys said the sun cost us.

594
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 7: It's only the Cowboy fans the Cowboys talking about So.

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Speaker 5: You think they're just making invalid excuses.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying saying, I'm legitimate concern concerned. But it

597
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 7: affects both teams. My point is that it seemingly.

598
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Speaker 5: Overcomes it, and one doesn't.

599
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Speaker 6: And the one that doesn't under overcome it is the

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Speaker 6: one that Jerry thinks hasn't advantage.

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Speaker 7: Right, That's the crazy part. That's what's crazy to me. Gay,

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Speaker 7: it affects boat teams.

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00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: You're just not passionate enough on here.

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00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: What's crazy?

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Speaker 1: You know?

606
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: It affects both teams, but it's the home team that.

607
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 6: Always suffers the consequences.

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: That's what's mind bottling.

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Speaker 6: I just don't understand why he has to be so

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Speaker 6: obstinate about this. Is it Does he take it personally

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Speaker 6: like it's an insultant? Is that you beutiful building over there?

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Speaker 2: That's Jimmy breakup.

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Speaker 5: He built and Jimmy didn't build.

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Speaker 2: Then you come with Jerry Jimmy break up. And you

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Speaker 2: can say you don't know why he has to see that.

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Speaker 5: I can understand that one better than this.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be a winner.

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Speaker 2: Often is the same, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna take a five hund of coaches, will take our.

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Speaker 4: Take our final break here. There will be a winner

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Speaker 6: Okay, so shot gonna handle the rest of the show.

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Speaker 4: on Monday? Is this uh? And we might as well

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Speaker 4: because we got gotta pick this game anyway.

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Speaker 7: Let me do this right quick, please, yes, yes, And

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Speaker 7: report came out and it continues to be lengthy. Dran

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Speaker 7: Bland stills not practice. I mean we got to do

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Speaker 7: a deep dive thirty for thirty on on Doran Blands.

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Speaker 6: Okay, McCarthy says they've had no conversations about putting him

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Speaker 6: out for the year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no conversation by putting him out for the year,

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Speaker 7: but not gonna set him down. But I mean, what's

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Speaker 7: the point of bringing him back at this point, Kaitlyn

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Speaker 7: Carson older illness, I mean I yes, So he didn't

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Speaker 7: practice that we weren't working UH. Two more, Douga was

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Speaker 7: limited even though his twenty one day OH period opened.

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Speaker 7: Jack Ferguson not practice, he was ill. Tyler Guid was

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Speaker 7: full today, missing last week and seeing Austin Richard's place

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Speaker 7: so well that people of questioned whether he should go

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Speaker 7: back in or not. Willie Well, you know, well, Mike

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Speaker 7: McCarthy won't tell us to they we asked him.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody in the locker wouldn't talk to us.

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Speaker 2: Eric Kendricks is full shoulder.

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Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis did not practiced the day with a neck injury,

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Speaker 7: and we saw him working with the rehab group under

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Speaker 7: Hunter Limkey.

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Speaker 2: The third down back.

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Speaker 7: Hunter Lopke did not practice the day because of a.

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Speaker 6: UH protest about the end of the running back by

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Speaker 6: committee cap injury.

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Speaker 2: He was never part of that rotation.

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Speaker 7: Zach Martin did not practice because the shoulder, you know

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Speaker 7: he's been the Great Demo is full. Michael Parkson was full.

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott's on the list. I don't know why offered

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Speaker 7: the season with hap neck. They not putting into reserve yet.

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Speaker 5: Yes, they don't need his roster spie, but I guess

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Speaker 5: maybe soon.

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Speaker 7: Cooper Rush who said that this his neck didn't bother

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Speaker 7: but he's on the injury report to neck and because

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Speaker 7: he got hurt on that fumble. But it was full.

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Speaker 7: But I think that I don't don't fumble the ball

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Speaker 7: and get it taken away under the pile. Uh Tylers

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Speaker 7: Smith was back at practice that he was limited after

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Speaker 7: missing you say, with knee injury.

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Speaker 6: And that's the injuries always last longer when the team

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Speaker 6: is not winning.

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Speaker 7: You know, they keep talking about and you can good.

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Speaker 7: We just got to eliminate the penalties. We got to

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Speaker 7: eliminate the turnovers. That's what we gotta we gotta. We

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Speaker 7: gotta score more points, you know, like they were asking

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Speaker 7: because they don't score a lot of points in the

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Speaker 7: third quarter.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's what bad teams do. It's not just say, Wenna, if.

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Speaker 7: We eliminated, it's gonna we're gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: No, you're a bad team. You keep doing the same things.

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Speaker 6: When I'm driving down you are. When I'm driving down

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Speaker 6: to Channel eight the day after a game, you know,

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Speaker 6: five three in the morning, I listened to Jerry's interview

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Speaker 6: with us again and one of the things that struck

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Speaker 6: me was how many times he mentioned the third quarter

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Speaker 6: issue in terms of McCarthy right. I mean, how badly

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Speaker 6: they've been outscored in the first quarter coming out of

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Speaker 6: the locker room, and how badly they've been scored in

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Speaker 6: the third quarter coming out of the locker room. Not

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Speaker 6: that he needs to come up with a whole bunch

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Speaker 6: of creative reasons to make a coaching change if that's

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Speaker 6: what he wants to do, but that stands out elect

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Speaker 6: to Jerry as this is proof that it's not getting done.

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Speaker 4: What do you think concerns Jerry Moore right now? His

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Speaker 4: offense or his defense if he got the truth serum

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Speaker 4: was like Jerry, I.

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Speaker 6: Would think I would think the offense, because I think

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Speaker 6: most of us, when the defense got hurt, thought the

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Speaker 6: the offense was going to be capable of creating scoring

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Speaker 6: contests that would make games competitive and interesting. Now they're neither.

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Speaker 6: They're not competitive and they're not interesting, and they're at

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Speaker 6: home and they lose and they play badly.

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Speaker 5: They're not worth watching.

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Speaker 2: That's the offense for sure, because that's.

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Speaker 5: Where you spent the.

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Speaker 4: Money, and and so the offense is bad, not what

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Speaker 4: you thought it would be. And you tell me, we

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Speaker 4: we talked about some last show. Everywhere they thought they

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Speaker 4: were going to make a change. They have not upgraded.

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Speaker 4: Left tackle this year was not an upgrade from Tyron Smith.

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Speaker 4: The center position not an upgrade from from Tyler Biadishuh.

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Speaker 4: The running back position after you moved on from Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 4: you did not improve there. There were a lot of

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Speaker 4: people who thought the tight end was going to make

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Speaker 4: another jump. The tight end did not make another jump,

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Speaker 4: had scored a touchdown this year. So just looking at

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Speaker 4: the offense all the way, Brandon Cooks is hurt.

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Speaker 7: You know, it was never but we thought Tober would

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Speaker 7: be ready to take that jump and live up to

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Speaker 7: just the high draft pick.

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Speaker 5: And he's done it for what one game round pick.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about flooring on. They really thought a

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Speaker 2: lot about.

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Speaker 5: Tober defense line.

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Speaker 4: I was just talking just offense, just where you thought, hey,

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Speaker 4: we've got some losses here, but hey, we.

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Speaker 6: Had regression from guys like Zach Martin that you didn't

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Speaker 6: expect it to happen. But with Steve Terrence Steel, I

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Speaker 6: think arguably, where.

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Speaker 4: Do you think he ends up in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: in terms of do they just gonna say, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: run his back and we think he's gonna improve. Where

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Speaker 4: do you go, ter Yes?

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Speaker 7: I mean I think he could be a salary cap

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Speaker 7: uh cut.

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Speaker 6: What if they thought awesome Richards was capable of playing

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Speaker 6: left tackle and they moved Geidon back to his natural

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Speaker 6: position to right tackle.

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Speaker 4: Which means Terrence Steele could I don't know, do you

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Speaker 4: trade him? Is he a tradable beast?

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Speaker 2: You think? I don't in this league, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you're tradeable.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It's trade a guy that people think you're gonna cut anyway.

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Speaker 7: I mean that that's you know, that's that's that's tough.

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Speaker 5: So cowboys did it last week.

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Speaker 7: Arguably he tried to get to show that the Arguably, Chris,

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Speaker 7: we might need to make a rotation.

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Speaker 6: Today, here he goes producing the show again. You know

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Speaker 6: he does do I just saw it twice twice in

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Speaker 6: twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he's trying to replace the guy

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Speaker 5: who's not here. He trying to place one of the.

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Speaker 4: Guys who is here right inside. Yes, and I tell

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Speaker 4: you he's kinds of so he is kinds of Okay,

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Speaker 4: I mean you were seeing the proof. Listen, listen, you

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Speaker 4: are seeing the proof.

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Speaker 6: Oh but that's a good point that they didn't really

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Speaker 6: make progress and they didn't improve in any of the

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Speaker 6: positions where they.

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Speaker 2: Were making changes, so they weren't all in.

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Speaker 5: And then and all of that. As a result of

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Speaker 5: all that, the quarterback didn't play well.

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Speaker 2: No, quarterback didn't play well at all.

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Speaker 7: And and and think about it is is that you know,

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Speaker 7: Cooper Rush is a guy who needs the things around

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Speaker 7: him to play well.

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Speaker 2: So does that to a certain extent, you know he

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Speaker 2: needs so but yeah, so, but yeah, that's so yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: I said so. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's not Patrick Mahomes. I've never said that Patrick.

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Speaker 7: He's not gonna pull a rabbit out of.

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Speaker 2: His hat, so to be. But you know, he needs

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Speaker 2: an offensive line.

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Speaker 7: He's got to hit more than he ever got hit

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Speaker 7: this year, you know, from from the East. Terms of

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Speaker 7: the protection of a note running game, no weapons outside.

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Speaker 7: And I know Jerry said, well paid Deak, you gonna

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Speaker 7: do more with less.

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Speaker 5: But you can't about that.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got you gotta do it with less,

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Speaker 2: you know, the less ain't good enough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think of how much less is the question?

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Speaker 4: I go back and Jared golf all day long. Like

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Speaker 4: Jared Goffin is thriving in Detroit because they have made

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Speaker 4: sure they put players around him, and because Jared is

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Speaker 4: he's a good football player, but he said he's not

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Speaker 4: the elite guy's going to carry the team on his back.

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Speaker 4: And and we've seen what he can do with an

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Speaker 4: elite offensive line.

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Speaker 7: The Texas game is the perfect example. He threw five interceptions.

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Speaker 7: They won the game because of the defense. They won

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Speaker 7: the game, but they still out other weapons, you know.

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Speaker 2: And things like that.

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Speaker 7: He threw let deck or any quarterback throw five interceptions,

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Speaker 7: they will be fifty to There's no coming.

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Speaker 4: Back, Romo, Uncle, So let me ask this question.

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Speaker 2: Way defense coming in the game, But you got to

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Speaker 2: be able to stay in the game.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying is the score was still able to come

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Speaker 7: back the Cowboys throwing five and the other team got

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Speaker 7: a fifty points, right.

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Speaker 6: I think all the flaws we've seen when Dak was

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Speaker 6: the quarterback are now exaggerated by a less talented.

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Speaker 4: Quarter There go back to Detroit in the defense. As

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Speaker 4: people are starting to you know, we're getting here and

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Speaker 4: you're hearing head coaching. Is Aaron Glenn now going to

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Speaker 4: find himself in that category because I would say Detroit

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Speaker 4: is the best football team uh in the league, and

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Speaker 4: some may say Kansas City, but I think the Detroit

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Speaker 4: is in my opinion coming out of the NFC at

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Speaker 4: this point.

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson is going to be the number one assistant coach,

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Speaker 6: play caller.

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Speaker 4: Offensive gay Right, but an Aaron Glenn said five picks

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Speaker 4: by golf. Your defense keeps you in and.

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Speaker 6: How well they've played without Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 7: Right, And that's a team that we knew the offense

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Speaker 7: was the best part of the team. You know that

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Speaker 7: with with those receivers, those running backs, in that offensive line,

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Speaker 7: they got a great office line.

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Speaker 2: The office was the best part of the team.

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Speaker 7: He Glenn has grown and that defense has grown a

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Speaker 7: lot again doing what you're doing, what you have former Aggie,

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Speaker 7: former cowboy doing what he's doing without Ed Hutcherson.

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Speaker 2: Very impressive.

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Speaker 7: And he was in the rotation last year of coaching interviews.

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Speaker 7: And I think he'll get a shot this year.

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Speaker 5: You think he'll get a job, or you think he'll

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Speaker 5: be interviewed.

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Speaker 2: Or he'll be interviewed for sure, he was interviewed last week.

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Speaker 5: You say I think he'll get a shot.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean shot at coaching? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I can't speak for these owners and how they do

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Speaker 7: their coaching thing, because you know, I think Brian Floryd

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Speaker 7: should be a head coach next year.

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Speaker 2: The job he's doing at Minnesota will the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's that.

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Speaker 5: Jerry doesn't like people. Who's suh If you're talking about

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Speaker 5: him being here?

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Speaker 6: What about when there was all that controversy about you know,

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Speaker 6: the criticism he took from TUA.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, overcoming, right, But his defense is said, hey, look

886
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 7: at this guy, because at Minnesota, defense is great.

887
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: All right, guys, let's get your picks here. I got

888
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: to write him down here tonight.

889
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: And Quinn against Kellen Moore.

890
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: That's right. Keelan is Stephen, call him Keelan, Keelan, Keelan.

891
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: All right? Ed, who you got.

892
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 4: Washington Philly?

893
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Uh?

894
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: Taking Philly and Philly is a four and a half

895
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 4: point favorite.

896
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: That's perfect cause I was going to pick Philly twenty

897
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 5: one seventeen.

898
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: Chill.

899
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm picking Philly U twenty eight, twenty four and

900
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 7: it's interesting and listen, I love the Washington quarterback all

901
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 7: the stuff early on MVP guy.

902
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: He only has nine touchdown passes. That's not a lot.

903
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: Four interceptions.

904
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 6: Okay, he didn't turn the ball over. He's got two

905
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty two passes and it's two picks.

906
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: No, don't turn the ball over him, said he only had.

907
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 6: He's been less of a runner since he suffered that

908
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 6: injury too, and last week he got shut down by

909
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh in that capacity, three carries five yards and had

910
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 6: his worst completion percentage of Vic Fangio watching that eight.

911
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna control him tonight.

912
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: Mister blueprint. All right, Houston Cowboys Monday Night.

913
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: What you got it?

914
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 5: Houston twenty Dallas ten. They score a touchdown? Jill Cavanti

915
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 5: Wow kickoff return.

916
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: Twenty eight ten, Houston twenty eight ten, Houston.

917
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to see

918
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: Clarence Hill in person.

919
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 5: Live, and why would you?

920
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: And who else? And who else?

921
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: Jay Ratler, Jay Ratler, who else? I'm special guests, gross,

922
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 4: I am a special guest tonight.

923
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 7: I wonder who you picking for? What's your score for

924
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 7: Houston Cowboys? I know it's gonna be in the morning news.

925
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: Check the paper. What's your score?

926
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: We're going with Houston.

927
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: What's the score?

928
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 4: Sir HAPs it would be a lot tomorrow. But but

929
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: I am I am in range if you guys. But

930
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: it was funny, is uh Barry put it at Houston

931
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: scoring twenty one points and I'm like, dude, when's the

932
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: last time somebody left left Jerry World? Just under under twenty,

933
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: just getting over twenty. I'm like, okay, but yeah, so.

934
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: Surprised you're letting You're letting Clarence produce you again later tonight.

935
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 5: You know what, man? Uh twice on a day, that's something.

936
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: When Joe was was sick last week, if there by

937
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: the time we had to offer my services. When when

938
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: Clarence had it in Arlington at l Abs, it was

939
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: easier for me to go right from the station down.

940
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: This requires more work, more more.

941
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 5: I'm sure he takes that into consideration in terms of

942
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: the compensation.

943
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and more important than Joe. Joe didn't go

944
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: to town all day, but he was at my show

945
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: last week.

946
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 5: Oh you just killed the guy.

947
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: Well, I have to go to work.

948
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 5: He just killed the guy.

949
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: I do have to go with him. He had carried out,

950
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: but it was better.

951
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 5: Just said he didn't do his job, but he came

952
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: to my thing.

953
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he had you know, he had a drink.

954
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: I will do my job and I will come down

955
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: and do my fraternal duty.

956
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 5: I know he'll give you mile and turn it in.

957
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: He'll get us, He'll get a chicken wing.

958
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: Thanks, guys, goodbye.

959
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,239
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