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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show, show two of the

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Speaker 1: off season. If you're keeping count at home, because I

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Speaker 1: know you score at home. These things, my gosh, you

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Speaker 1: should or maybe you shouldn't, or just relax enjoy the show.

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Speaker 1: Here we are Mark vandermir John Harris with you in

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Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans radio studio and we are presented by

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Speaker 1: a metres firm, the official sleep partner of your Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: As we venture into the off season. And Johnny, it's

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Speaker 1: too early for the start of the league year. You

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Speaker 1: could argue that we could wait until the start of

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Speaker 1: the league year to do this show, but that'd be

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Speaker 1: too crazy because we'd be jumping in in March and

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Speaker 1: so and so is signed here and there and everywhere.

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Speaker 1: In the legal tampering period. We need some time to

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Speaker 1: ramp up, warm up. We got the combine in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We have a lot of work to

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Speaker 1: do here you we do.

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Speaker 2: And it's gonna happen fast because what's today tenth Yes,

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Speaker 2: tampering period starts March ninth. We're inside a month. We're

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Speaker 2: inside a month from the tampering period. When things start

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Speaker 2: to seeming ramp up a little bit and then to

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Speaker 2: the ninth, tenth, eleventh. So the twelfth is the day

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Speaker 2: when everything I think it's the twelfth because it's three

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Speaker 2: days three days later, so it'll be the twelfth is

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Speaker 2: the first day of the league year when everything can

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Speaker 2: become official. If you remember last year, the Texans made

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Speaker 2: a few moves before, well they didn't. They weren't official, right, right,

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Speaker 2: but we move were agreed to by both sides. Texas

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Speaker 2: made a number of them, and I'd imagine this year

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Speaker 2: should be no different that there's gonna be something that happens.

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Speaker 2: I think between now and March ninth, well, I guess

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Speaker 2: March twelfth, where we're like, okay, all right, hold on

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Speaker 2: your hats, here comes something. I mean, this thing. And

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Speaker 2: it's funny because we have all these these dates for combine,

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Speaker 2: starting free agency, starting YEP, training camp, starting the building

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Speaker 2: of a team is twenty four to seven, three sixty five.

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Speaker 2: And I know people are like, well, this is the

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Speaker 2: free agent period. Yeah it is, but it starts and

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Speaker 2: then it's it's like the volume on radio. It's like

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Speaker 2: the ninth through the eleventh, the volumes like at ten,

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Speaker 2: you're like, you know, it's cranked up and you're just going, going, going,

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Speaker 2: but then it just goes down to a nice one.

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Speaker 2: You can still hear it, You could still hear it,

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Speaker 2: and it just goes on for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, because you had guys like who's Damon Clark and

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Speaker 1: guys like that making Playmarcus.

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Speaker 2: Ingram, who, by the way, JaMarcus Ingram very I got it.

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Speaker 2: I got a text from sal and he was very

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Speaker 2: disappointed that we picked up JaMarcus Ingram allaby about silent

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Speaker 2: report of the bills. He also did say and he

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Speaker 2: wasn't the only one. I just happened to see this

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Speaker 2: after Sean McDermott was fired that waving JaMarcus Ingram might

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Speaker 2: have been one of the final Jenga peg polls. Oh

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Speaker 2: on the tower. That was Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 4: So wait a minute, who waived him?

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Speaker 5: Brandon Bean?

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Speaker 4: Who wanted him?

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Speaker 2: Sean mcdert, Wait, this cannot happen though, I get it,

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Speaker 2: but there was so what ended up happening was the

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Speaker 2: bills needed to make room for I think it was

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Speaker 2: Brandon Cooks, okay, and they needed to make room for somebody.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if they thought that JaMarcus Ingram

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Speaker 2: wasn't gonna get claimed, and they get.

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Speaker 1: Them back on the practice squad because the Texans have

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Speaker 1: done that a few times. Guy comes back on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad and they can snake him back into the

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Speaker 1: game day roster with an elevation or active roster if

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Speaker 1: somebody else should go down.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: And when it happened and JaMarcus Ingram ended up being

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Speaker 2: claimed here on waivers, I got a text from Sal

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Speaker 2: that day saying, this is a great pickup for you guys.

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Speaker 4: Now he had a personal relationship with.

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Speaker 2: JaMarcus as well, but he was like his last line

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Speaker 2: of texts basically was Sean McDermott did not want to

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Speaker 2: day later, I saw a video of a press conference

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Speaker 2: to go. So the point being, there are multiple ways

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Speaker 2: for building your team, multiple times of the year where

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Speaker 2: things can happen. It's not as if, you know, like

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal in college is just like this two

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Speaker 2: week it feels like it's going on all the time,

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Speaker 2: but it's only this two week timeframe where you can

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Speaker 2: jump into the portal, get into the portal, check things out,

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Speaker 2: and go to a different team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you get out of there.

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Speaker 1: Hang on a second, though, If you jump into the

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Speaker 1: portal and you're not picked up, you're still in portal purgatory, right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So that's right until whenever you might never

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Speaker 4: That's right. You might be out of school.

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Speaker 2: And there are a lot of them out of school

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Speaker 2: right now who jumped into the portals could have stayed

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Speaker 2: had their scholarship fully funded, maybe even their an ideal

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. Okay, so this

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Speaker 2: so you, I'm not saying you, but I'm just saying jet.

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Speaker 2: You make a move, something looks grass is greener on

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Speaker 2: the other side, and you're like, I want to go

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Speaker 2: over there, right, and then you realize, oh man, grass

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Speaker 2: isn't greener. What's your natural reaction? Brown grass? I want

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Speaker 2: to go back to my house and guess what colleges

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Speaker 2: are now saying to those guys, Oops, sorry.

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Speaker 4: We already filled your spot.

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Speaker 5: Build your spot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this happens in a lot of marriages happening.

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Speaker 2: I already filled the spot. You're a spot, You're gone.

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Speaker 4: So yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's the player movement, player acquisition process, building the team.

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Speaker 2: It takes on different forms in both college and pro,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's all in.

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Speaker 1: That's wild, though, what you just brought. I didn't mean

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Speaker 1: to have that hijacked the SSHH, but that is wild.

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Speaker 1: I want to know the number of guys who are

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Speaker 1: second semester, so academically, I guess that's not the first priority.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not, but man, you're without a place

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Speaker 1: and you want to play somewhere and you don't have that.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for. That's the classic. Grass

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Speaker 1: is always greener. Careful what you wish for a lot

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Speaker 1: of these teams. Let's go back to the NFL Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Let go of McDermott. You brought him up. Be careful

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Speaker 1: what you wish for because you got Joe Brady. Now,

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Speaker 1: be wishing that you kept McDermott because is it McDermott's

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Speaker 2: I don't know, we need.

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Speaker 1: A change of voice, a change of whatever, really do

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Speaker 1: you because you're back in the playoffs. I'm old enough

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Speaker 1: to remember. Wasn't that long ago when you were never

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs? Yeah, you went the whole Oh's and

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Speaker 1: a lot of the teams. Yes, without playoffs. Buffalo was

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Speaker 1: a doormat team and it was wonderful to play the Bills,

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Speaker 1: even in Western New York because you would beat them.

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Speaker 2: So I was in studio earlier today and I can't

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Speaker 2: remember which one of the shouty shows had this on.

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Speaker 2: May have been first take, I can't remember, but the question,

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Speaker 2: essentially the comment was NFL teams essentially in which the

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Speaker 2: window is closing, okay, And they picked three teams, and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna guess what they are. Baltimore, Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: No, not Baltimore, Not Baltimore, Okay, Buffalo, Yes, Buffalo's one Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: No window not closing, because you have my homes.

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Speaker 2: Think older quarterback, that's where you got to think.

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Speaker 1: And I think, I rams, yeah, because it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean he had a hell of a season. He

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Speaker 1: was the MVP. Is that gonna happen again? It could

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Speaker 1: that happening?

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Speaker 2: Because with him with Stafford training camp.

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Speaker 1: Look, I never wish for people to get hurt, but

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Speaker 1: I was wishing he would take a lot of rest

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Speaker 1: of time because he had the back problem.

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Speaker 2: Supposed back problem. Training camp turned into MVP.

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Speaker 1: He's like, this is like online or on the air

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Speaker 1: show meeting because that leads us to a whole other

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Speaker 1: discussion about injury disclosure. Okay, oh you want to know

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Speaker 1: about injuries. How about Matthew Stafford's back problem. Are you

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Speaker 1: gonna bet on the Rams winning a Super Bowl or

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Speaker 1: getting to a championship game with that in training camp?

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Speaker 4: Are you going to place that wager? Mister wager? Err?

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Speaker 1: Or people are complaining about Drake May's shoulder. Look, you

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Speaker 1: feels fine. You believe that, you believed it. Well, he's

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Speaker 1: not on the injury report.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: So that's where he's not of the injury report. Well,

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Speaker 1: he had full practice.

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Speaker 2: They took it off. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who follows the NFL knows enough to know that

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Speaker 1: just because you're not of the injury report doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you're fully healthy.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes, yeah, they'll come back from something and they'll

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's for insurance. Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: used to do that. Yeah, Tom Brady used to be

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Speaker 2: an injury report forever. Remember what it was, shoulder? It

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Speaker 2: was something. It was a shoulder one year, but nobody

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Speaker 1: So look, buyer, beware, better, beware, beteor beware. You can't

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Speaker 1: trust anything. Stafford.

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Speaker 2: We thought he might not even play opening day. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna see Jimmy Garoppolo in LA opening day and opening

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Speaker 2: day he's dropping dimes. I'm like, good God, that be

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Speaker 2: rough he and hurt. That back's not a problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't know the back was a problem because

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Speaker 2: there was one point that I think will knock the

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Speaker 2: ball out. Oh no, there's a bad snap. And you

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Speaker 2: could tell Stafford was not run full speed because we

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Speaker 2: see he's a pretty good apps.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's also smart on his I am not going

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Speaker 1: to sacrifice my body on week one, that's right. But

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Speaker 1: the Texans held them to fourteen. They held the Rams

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Speaker 4: In their building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they pretty well against Baker two except for that

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Speaker 1: last fourth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the third team, Yeah, that they talked about. So

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Speaker 2: it was Rams and it was Bills the third team.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting one because it does

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Speaker 2: feel like this team has peaked. They've got a lot

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Speaker 2: of high end talent, but injuries have been a problem

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Speaker 2: for them, and this year they didn't even make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and we scrimmaged against them and their building in August.

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Speaker 4: The Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions. It's funny because I saw those three

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Speaker 2: shouty shows, I just like, you guys don't know anything.

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Speaker 2: But they put those three teams up there, and I

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Speaker 2: For what what if Burrow go for four way Stroud?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they would do that here, even

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Speaker 1: Who wouldn't love to have Joe Burrow? It is not

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I love what they were able to do

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Speaker 1: It's worked out beautifully for the Houston Texans. By the way,

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Speaker 4: It's five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Five years ago almost because it's in Mark five years ago,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like mid January. Yeah, so five years

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Speaker 2: ago we get the accusation. Go, we have lived life

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Speaker 2: in five years, my friend, five years? I know, how

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Speaker 1: We've been through David Cully, Lovey Smith and then three

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one. I don't have to recap everything's.

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens this year with them as a franchise.

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Speaker 1: called Wow, He's a free agent?

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Speaker 1: it's time to play. Wow, that guy's a free agent

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Speaker 1: and first name would be Tim Settle. Tim Settle, and

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Speaker 1: That is defensive lineman interior strength right there for your team.

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Speaker 2: People I heard from last offseason that would say, you

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Speaker 2: It is an absolute that they have to have.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because and I feel like Sheldon, after having a

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Speaker 1: He might look at this as this is my last

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Speaker 2: But my hope is that they both want to dance together.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Sheldon's got to come back now. It

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Speaker 2: third round, so they have four of the top sixty

439
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: nine picks. I feel like this is a good draft

440
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: to find one of their guys, to get a young

441
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: guy that they can then pour into and keep in

442
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: mind they drafted I know is a seventh round Kata

443
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Hamilton was a guy from Rutgers that they believed in

444
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: that they drafted last year his seventh round. He got

445
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 2: hurt early in camp and was doing some good things,

446
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: so that that's another guy that you you know, hopefully

447
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: can have back.

448
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: Like getting a picks, it's like getting an extra picks.

449
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: Been around a little bit, so it's not like rookie time.

450
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: He's been adjusted to a certain extent right as an

451
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: NFL player, all right, I'm okay with that, but not

452
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: sacrificing any needs you might interpret you have offensively, okay,

453
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: And I know last year's draft heavy on offense, as

454
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: we all know. By the way, I saw a Jalen

455
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: Smith today and I thought, I can't wait to see

456
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: him play.

457
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be good cornerback depth. You know, we saw.

458
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Reed later in the year, a lot of Jalens

459
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: of course later in the year played safety. Need him

460
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: to flourish in year number two. Another guy.

461
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: That guy's a free agent.

462
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: So darry is a free agent again, I'm going to

463
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: name some here, so you have to figure that out.

464
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett free agent. Oh, I don't like that.

465
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

466
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: I like him back. I mean, we'll see how they

467
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: interpret it again. You know, is he getting older? Is

468
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: it gonna be the same.

469
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. But that depth at defensive end, having

470
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: the pass rush, what he does for your football team

471
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: coming off the sideline, and the fact that they were

472
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 2: starting a lot of series with Barnett at defensive end.

473
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: They bring in Will and Daniel and Darryl Taylor. By

474
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: the way, he's a free that he shouldn't be on

475
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: this list, No, he should.

476
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 4: He was gone already.

477
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: He's gone already.

478
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: Why is he on this list?

479
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

480
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: I guess because he played with the Texans last He's

481
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: not a Houston Texans. You're right, Barnett is he was

482
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: so incredibly valuable from that perspective that you could go

483
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: to and I think one of the more underrated stories

484
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 2: for this defense that really nobody talked about. You know,

485
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: nobody talking about guy Dylan Horton's progress at defensive end

486
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: was incredibly valuable to this football team. And I think

487
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: that first year as a rookie, you know, obviously he

488
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: finds out he's got the cancer, fights through it, comes

489
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: back halfway in twenty four, you could tell he wasn't

490
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: quite all the way there. Twenty twenty five. That was

491
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: the Dylan Horden they thought they were getting when they

492
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: drafted him, and he gave them valuable, valuable reps. That's

493
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: going to make the decision on Barnett maybe a little

494
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: bit trickier. Solomon Byrd we haven't seen yet, you know,

495
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: a guy that drafted the seventh round, but they like him.

496
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: They've kept him around for a few years. It wouldn't

497
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: surprise me that at some point there is an edge

498
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: at it, whether it is Barnett or it is some

499
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: from another team. You know, last year it was there

500
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: Ol Taylor that didn't work out the way they wanted

501
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: it to. But I wouldn't be surprised to see another edge,

502
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: but the fact that Dylan Horton made the strides that

503
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: he did gave them that added depth. And this obviously

504
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: ends up being Dylan's last year under his contract, but

505
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 2: still he is under contract for this year and that's huge.

506
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: I would love to bring back Barnett, love love it,

507
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: and again it comes down to dollars and cents, and

508
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: you put from a playing standpoint, in fact, you can

509
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: put Horton and Barnett on the field. They could stop

510
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: plays on first second down, and then you bring in

511
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: the pass rush unit. It's got Daniel and will Or

512
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: way you go, all right.

513
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: I brought up Dare before Nick Chubb, as a lot

514
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: of people might suspect that was a one year deal.

515
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: So he's a free agent to be scheduled to be

516
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: So you got Dare Chubb, also Christian Kirk just to

517
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: throwing some offensive skill guys in there. But the running

518
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: back situation, look, you got wood he coming back, You

519
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: have Juwar coming back, that's very nice. Yes, you have

520
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: British Brooks coming back, right, and you know there's no

521
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: guarantee everybody's making this team, but would he come on

522
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: he'll be here.

523
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: He'll be here, and I think British will too. But

524
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: you've got to figure all that out. Are you gonna

525
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: draft a guy you're gonna get a veteran? Everyone asks

526
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: me about Joe Mixon to a nauseating degree, and I

527
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: understand it because there's not a lot of information out

528
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: there about what happened, and Nick has given you what

529
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: he's going to give you.

530
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: But he said that he's going to give it all.

531
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: He's got to play football this year, but I don't

532
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: know what that means, and I don't know if they're

533
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: going to rely on him or not. You know, we

534
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 1: all love to see him come back. He's under contract.

535
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: That would be phenomenal, but I don't know how they

536
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: look at it, like, Okay, it'd be great if he

537
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: comes back, but let's prepare for this season as if

538
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: he's not that way, we're ready for everything. And if

539
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: he's back, right, he's back, we'll deal with it.

540
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: Then.

541
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 4: You know what was active for the Super Bowl?

542
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: Wasn't cam Akers active for the Super Bowl once apon

543
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: a time, Houston, Texan cam Akers?

544
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 4: So you never know how this is going to play out.

545
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 2: Look the running game we talked about everybody knows it's

546
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: not just about the running back. It's not just about

547
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: the old line. It's everybody. It's you know, getting into

548
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: the right play. So that's on the quarterback, it's the

549
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: offensive line working together, obviously, running backs finding holes, et cetera.

550
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: I think the one player that a lot of people,

551
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: no matter it's national, local, have talked about finding is

552
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: is a running back that can go with what he marks.

553
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Now is that a veteran the veteran free agents that

554
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: are out there that are not those guys you mentioned.

555
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: To make it easy, I bring back Dari because he's

556
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: so valuable on so many different levels. I don't think

557
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: he ends up being like he was this year. I

558
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: don't think he ends up being a huge part of

559
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: the running back mix. But he's always there when you

560
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: need him on third down, he's always there on special teams.

561
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 4: He's going to make a play.

562
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, he had the game win he touched

563
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: down against the Kansas City Chiefs, and who would have

564
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: thought that after what happened in LA in Week one.

565
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: But I think we know we've got to have better

566
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: production from that from that running.

567
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: Back position, no question.

568
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: Well, better running game production period and so that goes

569
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: to the offensive line, that goes to a running back.

570
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: And again, the offensive line made serious strides from twenty

571
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: four to twenty five. If they make those similar strides,

572
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: and now you add in a back that's got some

573
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: serious juice, where you go. Brisall is a free agent.

574
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: A lot of people hit me up with, Hey, what

575
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: do you think of Bresaw? I like Bresall. I got

576
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: Travis E. Tenn as a free agent. Travsytn is a

577
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 2: free agent. You talk about it, double whammy.

578
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: Ooh, he's gonna make some money, but maybe not. Who knows?

579
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: Rico Dubel, Who's well.

580
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: I think one of the things about these free agents,

581
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: it's not like the class a couple of years ago

582
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: that had Joe in it with Derrick Henry Jacobs saying,

583
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: it's not like that.

584
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 4: But it's a class in it.

585
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: But if you look back at that class mark those

586
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: guys got paid but not paid. The running backs just

587
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: aren't getting paid. I mean, Sakuan got like it was

588
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: three for thirty three or something like that, and.

589
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't in the first two days or anything, right,

590
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: was it. Yeah, those guys got paid the first couple

591
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: of days. That's because remember people were panicking night one,

592
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: what's Nick doing?

593
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: And got her? Oh my god, he hasn't gotten a

594
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: running what's gonna get And they traded for Joe Mixon.

595
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, we traded for Joe Mixon, but this is the

596
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: year they acquired Daniel as well. So was mixing a

597
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: thing before Daniel because danil was Tuesday afternoon legal tem backs.

598
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: They started to change and then Joe Joe Mixon trade

599
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: was I think it was either the next day. I

600
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: think it was the next day. Okay, I think it

601
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: was the next day because it was like, calm down.

602
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: You just got a zizel Shire, Danico Autry and Daniel

603
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Hunter in the first two days of free agency.

604
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: That's what you did.

605
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: By the way, didn't any good Danko Autry free agent?

606
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: That's another one.

607
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: You need guys like this.

608
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: And look, I was we were all hoping that you'd

609
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: win in New England. You'd played Denver and as the

610
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: playoffs went on, Deniko would make a huge play, maybe

611
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Barnett would make a huge play. All these guys would contribute,

612
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: and they have all season long. You know, I saw

613
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: the video of Sean and Seth. I think it was

614
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: from Radio row where they're you know, twelve woods not

615
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: so bad whatever they said, and I thought, yeah, we

616
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: have to look at that. You know, you come right

617
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: back down to the base camp of the mountain right

618
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and now you gotta climb back up. You would love

619
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: to just start off right where you left off in

620
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: Divisional round territory up at that part of the mountain.

621
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: You can't.

622
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: You got to climb back up there. And it's a

623
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: long and dangerous and really treacherous, tough climb. And it

624
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: starts at base camp, which is training camp and all

625
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: the off season stuff, and then we go to this

626
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: peak and that or what in that peaks but whatever.

627
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: I can't do this mountain climbing metaphor because I'd never

628
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: do that.

629
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, I know exactly what

630
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 4: you silos.

631
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: What makes it tough is because everybody's like, well, we'll

632
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: just get back to the visual playoff round and then

633
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: we'll just show how different we are. And it's like, yo, whoa, whoa,

634
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: how hard I was to get back there this year.

635
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: Talk to Baltimore and Kansas City about getting back to

636
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: the digital round.

637
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to the divisional round, Buffalo

638
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: has the streak of like six or seven years and

639
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: getting back to the divisional playoff runt.

640
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: You know he's next us. I mean, it's strong, it's strong.

641
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: Done.

642
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: That to your point about those free agents of Deniko

643
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: is gonna be a long conversation because I think a

644
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: lot of people, I don't know a lot of people

645
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: truly saw the value in Deniko, and maybe not to

646
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: the level of contract he signed. That dude was incredibly

647
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: valuable third down, pass rush, blocking, field goals.

648
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it, I mean.

649
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: And you could afford that, Yeah, because you had such

650
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: studs at other spots, Right, he didn't have to play

651
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: every down, right, he did.

652
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: What he did.

653
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: It's so valuable to you, exactly.

654
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: And so that's gonna be that's gonna be a tough

655
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: decision because he obviously is up in years. You can't

656
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: pay him what you paid him a couple of years ago.

657
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: So that's that's gonna be a tough decision. And keep

658
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: in mind, and I know you know this, but there

659
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: were players We've mentioned two of them already today, Dari

660
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: Gombuale and Derek Barnett. They were not signed initially right

661
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: out the gate in free agency last year. Right, Darry

662
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: was a little bit later, and Barnett was even it

663
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: was later after that.

664
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: M J.

665
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: Stewart was later.

666
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he had a Pro Bowl campaign

667
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: going before he got hurt, right, But he was valuable

668
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: to you because he had nobody else to play that safety.

669
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: C J.

670
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson goes out and you're like, what do we do? Okay,

671
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: well MJ and MJ went back there and played well

672
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: before he got hurt. I mean, I think that was

673
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: one of the the underrated stories of the season.

674
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: What's their record of CJ. Gardner Johnson is not on

675
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: this team week one? You know, they might have won

676
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: one of those games, maybe they win the Jacksonville game

677
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: at the very least.

678
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

679
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Now life is totally maybe more because he wasn't a Look,

680
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: he's a very talented player, but he wasn't a fit

681
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: here the way they want to do it, the way

682
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: Demico wants them to do it.

683
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: He wasn't a fit here. You would have played that

684
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: first round game, you would have won the division. You

685
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: would have played the first round game at home. You

686
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: played but flow here. But but but you still go

687
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: to New England. You still go to the still would

688
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: have gone to New England. If you played the divisional

689
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: round game.

690
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: They would have gone to New England. Played a division.

691
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: Around, But the universe changes because the butterfly effect, it

692
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: affects other things. Maybe so he's on somebody else's team,

693
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: ruining their chance.

694
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.

695
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I mean, who's to say.

696
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. He ended up having a

697
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: good year with the Bears. I've got a subtle one

698
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: for you, Tommy Townsend.

699
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna ask me that.

700
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you bring Tommy back.

701
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: Oh you.

702
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a question.

703
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm not even playing around with that.

704
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not like punters are going to command this.

705
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: You know, he had a good year. You're not going

706
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: to command this. Unbelievable. I can't reach that skyscraper's salary.

707
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: It's not going to be like that now, the one, two,

708
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: three positions that I don't focus on the draft, so

709
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: I can't tell you what punters, kickers, long snappers are

710
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: and I don't even look. I don't even do it,

711
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: so sorry, you know, I don't know. But when that

712
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: dude is on, Tommy's as good a punter as there is.

713
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: You know, one of the only combine workouts I ever

714
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: watched back in the day was punting and I left

715
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: there thinking, no, wonder why NFL punters have their jobs

716
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: for fifteen years.

717
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: These guys suck.

718
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, you'll get maybe one or two that are

719
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: worth a whiff coming out of college. This is a

720
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: hard job, Signe. And the college guys are not ready

721
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: by and large. That's why you're going to Australia or

722
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing to get punters.

723
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know, go to the Australia factory.

724
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: That's where you go. A lot of those guys go

725
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: to college.

726
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Believe me.

727
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Bring Tommy back.

728
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: Cameron Johnston was probably forty years old when he was here.

729
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was. But it's a tough job.

730
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: It's a tougher job than you think. All right, Coming

731
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: up on the show, Dalton Schultz. He was on Radio

732
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: Row last week. Let's listen into some of that. He

733
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: was on with Sean and Seth. It's next here on

734
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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. All right, it's our final segment of the night,

735
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: and last night we ran an interview from last week's

736
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: Radio Row prior to the Super Bowl. It was Nick

737
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Cassario with Shawn and Seth, and Dalton Schultz was on

738
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: with Ron and Clint. I think I said Sewn and

739
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Seth earlier in the show, but doesn't really matter, of

740
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: course it does. This is the afternoon program as opposed

741
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: to the morning programs, so I misspoke, But this is

742
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Ron and Clint and Clint is a part of our

743
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: post game show on Texans Radio. Game days following the game,

744
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: that would be when a postgame show airs, and these

745
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: guys had a chance to catch up with Dalton Schultz,

746
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: who led the team in catches this year, had an

747
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: outstanding year all time leading receiving years as far as

748
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: catches goes for a tight end? Did everybody get that?

749
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Will quiz on this later, but great year for Dalton

750
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: and those guys had some fun on Radio Row. So

751
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: remember the context of time. This is last week prior

752
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. But a lot of stuff about

753
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: the Texans season and what is to come from Ron

754
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: and Clint catching up with Dalton on Radio Row.

755
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: We appreciate you joining us in here, man, I know

756
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: you're not here under the scenario you would have liked

757
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: to have been here.

758
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we are. We're happy to get here now.

759
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 6: I want to let you know you don't have to

760
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: go through the test that we've been making all our

761
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: guests go through.

762
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: I think we've seen you enough. We know that you

763
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: are the real Dalton Schultz.

764
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that he I don't know if he's

765
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: even heard the story.

766
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't think I have.

767
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 7: Oh, last year, we're sitting here, and he'll know. He'll

768
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 7: know the other people you tell you tell a story too.

769
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 7: They don't realize that Diggs was playing for our team.

770
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got Duke last year and fake Stepan digs

771
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 6: on us an impost no way face every time, every damn.

772
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: Time they're like, hello, credits, Well that's exactly what we

773
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 3: were thinking. Listen dog.

774
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: So y'all.

775
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: When he said down, we knew it wasn't him.

776
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: Really we see him.

777
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 7: We saw him every we come there for training camp.

778
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 7: But we knew it wasn't him. But but but what do

779
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 7: you do when we're doing this, when we're doing this

780
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 7: right here, Like how do you you be like Noah,

781
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 7: I ain't I didn't know who made the mistakes.

782
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 6: Happened like you just did, like you just walked up,

783
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 6: sit down, put headsets on and like we've been promoting

784
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: you know here which this Houston Stephan Diggs. We hadn't

785
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 6: heard from him since the a c L Like, all right,

786
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 6: we put it Stepan Diggs joining us.

787
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: He sat down and I look, I look around. That's it.

788
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: Did you find out who it was?

789
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: It was a safety from Vanderbilt.

790
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 8: He was ah, he got sliding in the wrong slot.

791
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 7: He was smooth, he had big glasses on, and he

792
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 7: laid back. He was just and we're both looking at

793
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 7: him and looking at each other and like this is him.

794
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 7: I asked him question about his AC how's that's? How's

795
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 7: the rehab going good?

796
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: I mean I was good, Like I mean, I'm trying.

797
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 6: I was trying to find out, trying to figureut who

798
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 6: is Like I just finally said.

799
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 5: You know that that's camp, that's radio right, Yeah it

800
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 5: was yeah.

801
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well it wasn't really good for us to I mean,

802
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 7: made us because we've been it'd be different if we

803
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 7: were San Francis.

804
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 5: Just a hell of a story.

805
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: I can laugh now.

806
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 6: Yeah I was hot, man, but no, man, uh man,

807
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 6: great season this year, man, uh And we've talked to

808
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 6: you a couple of times.

809
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

810
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 6: I thought you had a Pro Bowl caliber season, and uh.

811
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: It seemed like things shifted.

812
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 6: There were at times struggles for the offense, but it

813
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 6: didn't seem like, uh that that came to you.

814
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 5: It seemed like you.

815
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 6: Almost nearly a career year this year when it when

816
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 6: it comes down to what you were able to do,

817
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 6: what all went into that this year with the new offense,

818
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 6: that it seemed like some space to struggle, but not

819
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 6: really for you.

820
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's a new offense, but like it's

821
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 8: stuff that I've been doing my whole career, like stuff

822
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 8: that I did in Dallas, stuff that.

823
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: I did in college. Like it was I.

824
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 8: Don't know, it felt like it felt like an old

825
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 8: like you know, it felt like riding a bike with

826
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 8: stuff that I've had so many banked reps on. It's

827
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 8: like I do feel like I was ahead of the curve,

828
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 8: baby than everybody else. And so like I was always like,

829
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 8: all right, here we go. I gotta see the coverage

830
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 8: another read like here's what I'm saying, like nobody, nobody's

831
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 8: gonna be here.

832
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

833
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 5: And I think.

834
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 8: Just CJ had a lot of trust in me over

835
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 8: the last three years, building that and then seeing that

836
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 8: like all right, Like I know, I know where he's

837
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 8: gonna be, you know what I mean. I think that

838
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 8: was just more so of that, but especially just in

839
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 8: like the run game for me personally, it was just

840
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 8: so much.

841
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 5: Again, what was the difference the man was? That was

842
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: night and day.

843
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 8: It's a different it's a different thought process, it's a

844
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 8: different methodology in terms of just how you work together,

845
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 8: how you get to combos, how you go to the

846
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 8: second level, your footwork on the first level. Like, it's

847
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 8: just it's stuff that again going back to that, like

848
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 8: I've had stupid amounts of bankrupts on. Yeah, it was

849
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 8: literally it just felt like putting on that pair of

850
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 8: shoes is broken in already.

851
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put them on.

852
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: It's like, ah, here we go, oh sweet home, you

853
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

854
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 7: Like you mentioned CJ Man, what's what's your what was

855
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 7: your rough end of the season for him?

856
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: Started against us? Right right?

857
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 7: But well, I know you've got a special relationship with

858
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 7: him and have for a few years. I mean, what's

859
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 7: the what's the messaging, what's the conversation, what's what's that been?

860
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 8: Like, I mean, dude, the results are what they are,

861
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 8: and like I feel like I've told him this when

862
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 8: he came in.

863
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 5: So you do, everything's gonna fall on you, good or bad, like.

864
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 8: And you got to be the leader to be able

865
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 8: to take it and roll again whether it's good or bad,

866
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 8: like you're gonna get you're gonna get blamed when it's

867
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 8: not your fault, and then when it is your fault

868
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 8: and it's a good thing, like it's gonna be because

869
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 8: of everything else, but you so like you got to

870
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 8: be willing to roll with that however it may it

871
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 8: may land Obviously, I think just the results of that game,

872
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 8: Like it's hard to pin it all on him in

873
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 8: my as a player, Like in my eyes, like a

874
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 8: game is my fault, Like I got I left the

875
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 8: game in the first quarter, you know what I mean?

876
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 8: Like that there was a big game plan for me

877
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 8: and I wasn't able to be out there. And you know,

878
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 8: my process was exactly the same that I've done all year,

879
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 8: every year, and I look back and I'm like, we'll shoot, Like,

880
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 8: obviously I didn't do enough to get my body where

881
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 8: it needed to be in that moment.

882
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: And so.

883
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 8: That's like literally all I've been thinking about, like and

884
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 8: every but he's gonna pin it on CJ.

885
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 5: It's not it's not his fault.

886
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: Houston Section's tight end.

887
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 6: Dalton Schultz joins, us, I think our I think the

888
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 6: fan base, our listeners may need to hear this because

889
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 6: I can tell listening to you as you're talking about

890
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 6: that with Clenn, about CJ and in that final game,

891
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 6: the final couple of games. We've heard from Will, We've

892
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 6: heard from Nico, We've heard from a lot of you

893
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 6: guys about no like CJ is that's our guy, he's

894
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 6: our guy. A lot of the fan base seems to

895
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 6: be the belief has been shaken. Like first year, what

896
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 6: you all did, like it was like we finally got

897
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 6: a guy that can compete with anybody. What we're getting

898
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 6: from every day from the fans are like, I don't

899
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: know if I trust him. I don't know if I

900
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 6: think it's good to hear from somebody who's inside that

901
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 6: works with him. Why you guys believe so much? We

902
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 6: keep hearing it, but why what is it specifically about?

903
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 8: Going back to what you're saying, though, is like the same,

904
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 8: It's the same. It's just noise, dude, Like everybody was

905
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 8: also calling for everybody's jobs, everybody be fired when you're

906
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 8: owing three, Like it's the same as as our job

907
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 8: as players and everybody else. And I know Nick is

908
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 8: like the best one for this, Like Nick can say it.

909
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 8: Nick's said it all the time everywhere, But like that's

910
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 8: not our focus, Like we don't.

911
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 5: That's not on that's not our job.

912
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 8: Like our jobs to go out there and like perform,

913
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 8: make sure we're we're good.

914
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: So like.

915
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 8: Again, like it's noise, dude, Like whether you believe in

916
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 8: him or not, does that affect whether he's gonna be

917
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 8: the same player a better player? Like that has no

918
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 8: effect on him, you know what I mean? Like none

919
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 8: of that, None of that affects the process of like

920
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 8: whether he's gonna he's truly gonna grow or not. And

921
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 8: to me, it doesn't mean anything, man, Like what's what's

922
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 8: most important is are you willing to go back and

923
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 8: look at that film and like me, like I look

924
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 8: at that film again, I should have done way more

925
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 8: on the front end. And it's like if you have

926
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 8: a bunch of guys that go and like look at

927
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 8: that and realize the same thing and come together and

928
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 8: find a way to just build on the good and

929
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 8: learn from the bad and going in the next year,

930
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 8: Like it's all you can do, dude, Like it sucks

931
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 8: because there's one team that's on top, yea, and like

932
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 8: we feel like we had a team to challenge that

933
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 8: spot and we didn't perform in that game.

934
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: Well, you gotta taste of it.

935
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 7: I mean, you got y'all gotta taste it because like

936
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 7: you said, to sit here right now, and you're like, man,

937
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 7: but I mean to sit here right now and and

938
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 7: and think, hey man, we had a legit shot. We

939
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 7: should be one of the teams on that band are

940
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 7: up there. I mean that's a step in the right

941
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 7: direction for the for the team, though, I mean you weren't.

942
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 7: You guys didn't that wouldn't necessarily a reality a year ago, right, I.

943
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 8: Mean that's that's a step that I'll be honest, Like

944
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 8: walking around here is tough. Yeah, Like I love being

945
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 8: like we came because I love being in the bay,

946
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 8: but like being reminded that like we fell short, especially

947
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 8: this year, I think because everybody realized what we had

948
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 8: and how good of a team we have and the

949
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 8: opportunity that we had to come up short and not

950
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 8: have that, Like that's why I think it feels.

951
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 5: Extra Yeah, it sucker punch. Yeah, truly, Like I still haven't.

952
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 5: I still haven't gotten over it.

953
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 7: Well, let me let me help you. We'll talk about

954
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 7: more positive the tidy end room. I know a couple

955
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 7: you obviously got internet last game, but you had some

956
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 7: of your your pottings throughout the year, got hurt and

957
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 7: Brevin Jordan lost for the year. I mean, what do

958
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 7: you what's what's going on with those guys and and

959
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 7: how how do you feel that room can can develop

960
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 7: and mature in year two of this offense?

961
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, I mean the biggest thing everybody's got to

962
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 8: get healthy. Yeah, can't improve if you're not healthy. You

963
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 8: got to set a baseline, which I think everybody will be.

964
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 8: Everybody's working as far as like just the room as

965
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 8: a whole, like through training camp, Like I for loved

966
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 8: our room, like especially with those two other guys like

967
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 8: Caden Brevin, Like it's a fun room to be a

968
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 8: part of. And we're all very different in terms of

969
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: like how we play ball, what we do, what we're

970
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 8: able to do really well. So I felt like we

971
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 8: complimented each other really well, and we got a ton

972
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 8: of like time on task, a ton of reps like

973
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 8: I talked about the run game having different types of combos.

974
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 8: One of the thing is, like, dude, tight ends are

975
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 8: blocking together all the time, like truly, like shoulder shoulder

976
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 8: double team, like let's move. And we put so much

977
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 8: time on task on stuff like that. You have got

978
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 8: you have a broken foot week one and and Brev

979
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 8: you know, tore his knee and camp like all of

980
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 8: a sudden, like you don't have that anymore, you know

981
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 8: what I mean. And that's you got to be able

982
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 8: to build that with the other guys that you got.

983
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 8: But like, dude, it's it's tough to see what the

984
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 8: room really is and really can be if you don't

985
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 8: have film sure of that, if you're not want to

986
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 8: put that on tape, which I mean, dude, we're missing

987
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 8: missing to guys like two of our three, Like it's

988
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 8: you know, shitty, well hit that.

989
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a hell of it was a it

990
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 6: was a hell of I know right now, it's probably tough,

991
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 6: but the hell of a season that you guys had.

992
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: And and like you said, you're right there. I can't

993
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: I can't wait to training camp.

994
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: Because if the fire, if the fire, then people got right.

995
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: Here is the rest of the team like y'all look

996
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: like a mission.

997
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 5: You sound like you're already dude.

998
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 8: The only the only way I know how to, you know,

999
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 8: cope and to almost distract myself as he had getting right.

1000
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 5: Back on the horse man. Yeah, just like a race

1001
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: car driver. The crashes, get back in the car and

1002
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 5: let it rip again.

1003
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: What's that again? Sorry?

1004
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: What I mean?

1005
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean?

1006
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: I let him rip every now I get the mouth

1007
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 5: of the tailor.

1008
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 7: No, he hit he hit one. I can't remember. It

1009
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 7: was in a post game. I do the post game.

1010
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 7: We shot a few times and he dropped one. Next

1011
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 7: week it was wheel and it was a miss. But

1012
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 7: what coming coming out here?

1013
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: You said? You love beating the babyman? What's on what's

1014
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 3: on the what's on the agenda for you? Man?

1015
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 5: Dude?

1016
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 8: Well, we went to we went to dinner spot last

1017
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 8: night that my wife had been an as to.

1018
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: Get back to.

1019
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 8: She went to school out here, so she's she's got

1020
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 8: the whole itinerary for a where to go, what to do?

1021
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 8: All I needed, and I will be there every single morning.

1022
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 8: Is you guys have been to Phil's. You guys like coffee.

1023
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: I have not been to.

1024
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: P h I l z.

1025
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 8: It's kind of like a chain around here and get

1026
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 8: any any coffee sweet creamy bro it's my favorite coffee.

1027
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: You did it, serious, dude.

1028
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 8: I freaking love phils, so I had. I had three

1029
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 8: of them this morning before twelve. You see if you

1030
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 8: see me tweaking like we gotta get you to get

1031
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 8: you in trouble. Hey, there's a lot.

1032
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 5: That you said that that that.

1033
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Jumps that jumps out. Man.

1034
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 6: We appreciate you joining us, and man, I personally, I

1035
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 6: love seeing the passion that you get right now and

1036
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: how riddy you are for this this next season.

1037
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: That's good man.

1038
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 5: Dalton Schultz for sure tied.

1039
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 3: In here for the Houston Texans.

1040
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: There's Ron the Show. He doesn't call himself that anymore.

1041
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: Ron Huglely and Clint Stirner on Radio Row talking with

1042
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I think he doesn't call himself the show anymore.

1043
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: I think some people do and maybe it's an occasional

1044
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: second reference, but I gotta talk to Ron about that anyway.

1045
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: That's gonna do it for tonight's program.

1046
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: Tomorrow.

1047
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more Texans Radio. If you missed

1048
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: any of this, it'll be in podcast forms soon enough.

1049
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: On the Odyssey app and then later on Spotify Houston

1050
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: Texans dot com so you can hear what Johnny and

1051
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I had to say about pending Texans free agents and

1052
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: other stuff relevant to the Texans and the NFL. Thanks

1053
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: so much for listening, Area forty five coming up next,

1054
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: Go Texans,