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Speaker 2: All Right, the party is just getting started.

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Speaker 3: Here, well not really just getting started, but the party

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Speaker 3: continues here in Indianapolis, Indiana, the NFL combine.

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Speaker 2: The league is on full display.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys are laying their groundwork for their off season

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Speaker 3: and for their future. And we've got front office insight,

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Speaker 3: We've got Cowboys Combine insite. We've got an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: interview with offensive coordinator Clayton Adams coming up later in

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Speaker 3: the show. A lot of good things happening here on

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Speaker 3: Podcast Nation Combine. Addition, Nicole Hutcheson joined by the One

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Speaker 3: and Only tell me oursh what's up man?

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Speaker 2: How you doing? How you doing great?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, fantastic, fantastic. This is one of the

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Speaker 4: best weeks of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Really fun to get together with everybody, see some of

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Speaker 5: these prospects in person. It's a big data point for

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Speaker 5: the draft process. Absolutely, and then you know, getting to

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Speaker 5: talk to Stephen Jones like we did on Tuesday and

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Speaker 5: Clayton Adams, like we will later today in the show.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to Brian Schottenheimer at the podium tomorrow. So

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Speaker 5: it's always fun to kind of see where teams are

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Speaker 5: at at this point in the off season because you've

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Speaker 5: got free agency coming up, you've got the draft coming up,

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Speaker 5: and for Dallas certainly a lot of decisions that need.

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Speaker 4: To be made.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course, I mean we talk about it

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Speaker 3: all this whole off season. Is the decisions will be

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Speaker 3: heavy at the on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 3: especially with the of course missing pieces you got contracts,

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Speaker 3: they have to negotiate what Christian Parker wants to establish

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Speaker 3: here in Dallas. I want to touch on that though first,

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Speaker 3: because we did hear from Stephen Jones when we first

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Speaker 3: arrived on Tuesday. What's kind of like your confidence level

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Speaker 3: in the direction that the Cowboys are heading into this

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Speaker 3: offseason with everything that they have done so far this

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you Steven Jones's confidence level is high,

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Speaker 5: and we asked him yesterday. I kind of phrase it

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Speaker 5: this way because when I'm looking back at the times

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Speaker 5: that Dallas has had two first round picks. Two thousand

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Speaker 5: and eight was the last time, and then the last

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Speaker 5: time before that was two thousand and five, so it

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Speaker 5: was four three four years apart. And this reminds me

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Speaker 5: a lot of what two thousand and five looked like

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Speaker 5: because the Cowboys in two thousand and five were making

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Speaker 5: his scheme change from a four to three to a

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Speaker 5: at the time. He still was there the year prior,

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Speaker 5: so it wasn't a new defensive coordinator, but Bill Parcells

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Speaker 5: wanted a different look, and they had two first round picks,

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Speaker 5: and they just weren't very good on defense in two

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Speaker 5: thousand and four. So you fast forward now twenty one

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Speaker 5: years later to twenty twenty six, you weren't very good

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Speaker 5: three fourth game, although it is going to be multiple

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Speaker 4: So I asked him, does that does it ring bells?

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Speaker 4: Maybe A little bit?

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Speaker 5: Is is do you feel like there's something that you

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Speaker 5: but the most important part I think, he said, I

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Speaker 4: It seems like that's a lot. And you know, one

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Speaker 5: Things that he kept pointing back to was how Seattle

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Speaker 5: Towards Okay, the Cowboys might be a little bit more

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Speaker 5: you believe it. They get out and get Yavonte Williams

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Speaker 4: Agency is open.

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Speaker 5: So at least it seems like they are keeping the

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Speaker 4: And he got asked.

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Speaker 5: If if they were, if they were moving different this offseason,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of the things that I

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Speaker 3: Christian Parker wants done. It's not just Christian Parker coming

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Speaker 3: what you have, right, and that'll take some conversations with

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Speaker 3: all of that right. And so they've gotten like you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: So a lot of movement around to make some things

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Speaker 3: with that topic of conversation because I'd asked Stephen Jones about,

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Speaker 3: you know, have there been any conversations with the Jadeveon Clowney.

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Speaker 2: He said no, not yet, and.

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Speaker 3: So do you feel like he fits this three four

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Speaker 5: What's interesting about it is Stephen is saying, no, they

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Speaker 5: haven't had conversations yet. Isn't necessarily the end all be

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Speaker 5: all of all right, that's fair. Jdavion Clowne is not

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Speaker 5: we absolutely want to Davion Clowney back. Now you make

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Speaker 5: they're going to work through it with Christian Parker and

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Speaker 5: Javion Colnn is going to play elsewhere in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 5: And I think obviously your defensive coordinator change, that that

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Speaker 5: We can try and put him in situations to get

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Speaker 5: if it works, it works. But I just will say

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Speaker 5: that that there has been a change. Sure there was

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Speaker 3: I thought, who benefits the most from this three four

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Speaker 5: Well, like we talked about, it's it's you kind of

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Speaker 5: it's going to be multiple They're going to be spaced

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Speaker 4: Look, I think you know, really who.

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Speaker 5: Benefits the most is the fact that you know, Christian

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Speaker 5: Parker wants to capitalize on the three big.

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Speaker 4: Defensive tackles that Dallas has, and then.

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Speaker 5: Because of that, if you get to pass rush, everybody

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Speaker 5: benefits and that, in my opinion, that's how you win

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Speaker 5: which Christian Parker talked about in its opening press conference,

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Speaker 5: that makes your secondary better, It makes your linebackers better,

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Speaker 5: that's just it's so hard to deal with for quarterback

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Speaker 5: Diggi Zula. You might have to work some things around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to switch gears because I mean, like

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Speaker 3: is there a player that kind of intrigues you the most?

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Speaker 2: That you're looking forward to the most.

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Speaker 4: There's so many goose.

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Speaker 5: One, Okay, I'll do Sunny Styles the linebacker for Ohio State,

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Speaker 5: because I could very well see this being a week he's.

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Speaker 4: Been mocked a lot to the Cowboys at twelve.

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Speaker 5: I could very well see this being a week where

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Speaker 5: he plays himself on the top ten or he tests

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Speaker 5: himself on the top ten. I should say he's a

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Speaker 5: freak athlete, and he's big, longer arms, and he's one

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Speaker 5: of those guys that moved from safety down the linebacker,

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Speaker 5: and you couldn't really tell there was much of a

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Speaker 5: just made it look so easy.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he had a mistackle last year for

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Speaker 5: And you combine the tackling ability with his ability and

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Speaker 5: just get a versatile chess piece that you know, if

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Speaker 5: if he was to go to Dallas immediately can become

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Speaker 5: can do everything and you can play off of that.

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Speaker 5: So that would be one that's a core It could

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Speaker 5: be a core piece for Dallas or whoever decides to

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Speaker 5: draft him. But because he's so good athletically, you wonder

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Speaker 5: if he brings himself into that top ten conversation. So

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Speaker 5: if you're the Cowboys this week, man, you are rooting

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Speaker 5: for these offensive players to have the best combines of

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Speaker 5: their live Like this needs to be the best offensive

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Speaker 5: combine ever and teams need to fall in love with,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe a second quarterback, Like if ty Simpson

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Speaker 5: blows everybody out of the water and he goes top ten,

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Speaker 5: what does that look like if you know, one of

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Speaker 5: these wide receivers like a Mikayle Lemon from USC or

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Speaker 4: That's what you're rooting for this week.

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Speaker 3: Before we first take our first break here on a

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, this is Podcast Nation. Welcome back into Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Nicole Hudgson, Tommy Yarish in very own Nick Harris with

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Speaker 2: Nick, obviously we're gonna get straight to it as well.

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Speaker 3: You've been covering the combine, You've been covering a lot

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Speaker 10: You think, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 10: And I think with you know.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, defensively, because that's just been so much of

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Speaker 10: I have to see that manifested.

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 13: They're going to have a lot of intel on a

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Speaker 13: lot of these free agents that are coming in, it's

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Speaker 13: going to be interesting to see which ones developed coming

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Speaker 13: out of not only this week, but certainly in free agency.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you some them, because we've had this

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Speaker 3: talk about free agency since I've been here. Of course,

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Speaker 3: I don't think the issue is not, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: attacking free agency. It's just they haven't hit in free

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Speaker 3: agency because last year you talk about a Logan Wilson

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Speaker 3: who was injured for most of the year, Kenneth Murray

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Speaker 3: who didn't necessarily give you this stability at the linebacker

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Speaker 3: position that you expected him to. How important is it

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Speaker 3: for them to hit on free agency this year compared

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Speaker 3: to years past? And what are some options that the

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Speaker 13: I'll contind with you on one point. I mean, I

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Speaker 13: feel like that they did hit in certain areas. Jamonte

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Speaker 13: Williams was obviously a huge bargain, been fined and being

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Speaker 13: able to sign him on the deal that they did,

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Speaker 13: and then obviously bringing him back for the long term.

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Speaker 13: It's just more so about finding that hit rate right.

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Speaker 13: And I think you know, that's that's not so think

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Speaker 13: you really know until you get the guy in the building.

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Speaker 13: And you know, Dante Fowler for example, take him for example,

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Speaker 13: and you know that was a guy who was coming

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Speaker 13: off with ten and a half sacks in Washington, He

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Speaker 13: had experience in the building. Everything on paper said that

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Speaker 13: Dante Fowler should have been a premier pass rusher for

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Speaker 13: the Cowboys last season, and it just didn't work that way,

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Speaker 13: you know. And I don't think anyone at the time

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Speaker 13: was looking at a one year, six million dollars deal

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Speaker 13: for Dante Faller and be like, what are they doing?

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Speaker 13: You know, it's it was very justified, and it just

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Speaker 13: didn't work out for Dante Fowler last year.

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Speaker 10: And whoever you want to pin that on is up

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Speaker 10: to you.

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Speaker 13: I think there are a lot of different factors that

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Speaker 13: played into that, but it's it's really about not knowing

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Speaker 13: until you get that guy in the building. But I

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Speaker 13: think with the again, the experience that this defensive staff

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Speaker 13: has around the league and the experience that they've had

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Speaker 13: in each of their respective careers, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 13: give them a lot of background to be able to

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Speaker 13: make some key decisions here in free agency.

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Speaker 5: We've gotten to talk to Christian Parker now and we

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Speaker 5: kind of have seen his outline and what he wants

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Speaker 5: to do for this defense. What do you feel like

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Speaker 5: benefits the most from Christian Parker being the Cowboys defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 10: Oh, that's a good question.

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Speaker 13: I think the layer of unknown, at least in this

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Speaker 13: first year, really helps because he's gonna go into a

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Speaker 13: week one matchup and the opposing side's not really gonna

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Speaker 13: know what's gonna be thrown at them. You know, they

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Speaker 13: can have an understanding and it's gonna have Vic Fangio principles,

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Speaker 13: and but there's gonna be little nuances to Christian Parker's

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Speaker 13: scheme that he's already talked about that we're not gonna

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Speaker 13: know until it hits the field in week one, and then, uh,

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Speaker 13: you know, as defenses adjust through that first six weeks,

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Speaker 13: it's it's gonna be interesting to see how teams adjust

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Speaker 13: to whatever Christian Parker ends up throwing on the field.

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Speaker 13: So by the time we get to week five, week six,

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Speaker 13: that'll really be the first time that opposing teams will

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Speaker 13: have enough opposing scout information to be able to really

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Speaker 13: scout Christian Parker and what he brings to the table.

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Speaker 13: But again, that's that's for any first year play caller,

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Speaker 13: and that's that's the advantage that's kind of built in

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Speaker 13: for those first year play callers. Schottenheimer had it last year,

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Speaker 13: and even though he wasn't a first time play caller,

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Speaker 13: it was first time in a few years, and he

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Speaker 13: was able to kind of throw that element of unknown

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Speaker 13: out there for the first few weeks and it worked

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Speaker 13: out great for this offense last season.

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Speaker 10: So I would say that.

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Speaker 13: But also, you know, we we've heard over and over

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Speaker 13: again about his teaching ability and how that teaching ability

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Speaker 13: has really showed up already even in these assist assistant

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Speaker 13: meetings and personnel meetings. I'm fascinated to see what that

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Speaker 13: looks like for players like Savone Revel because I think

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Speaker 13: this year two is so so important for him. Deron Bland,

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Speaker 13: how does that help him once he gets back to

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Speaker 13: full health, even in the front seven. He's dedicated so

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Speaker 13: much time and energy into figuring out what this front

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Speaker 13: seven looks like. And I think that's fascinating for a

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Speaker 13: guy who comes from a secondary background, it's it should

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Speaker 13: be an exciting hire for Cowboys fans, and yeah, I'm

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Speaker 13: excited to see what that looks like on the.

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Speaker 3: Field based on last year's season. Have you had any

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Speaker 3: conversations with maybe the coaches or inside information on just

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Speaker 3: the positions that the Cowboys are possibly spending their most

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Speaker 3: time with.

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Speaker 2: Do you know anything defense?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's obvious one, right. I think.

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Speaker 13: One one position to to really keep an eye on

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Speaker 13: this offseason is nickel corner, and I whoever they end

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Speaker 13: up putting at that nickel spot is going to be

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Speaker 13: very crucial toward the success of this defense early on.

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Speaker 13: You know, whether that is you know, Doraan Bland coming

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Speaker 13: back and fitting that role, or it's going out and

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Speaker 13: drafting a guy like a like a Caleb Downs if

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Speaker 13: he's somehow able to slip to you there at twelve,

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Speaker 13: but there's also some really talented slot corners around this

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Speaker 13: entire draft class, or if it's going out in free

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Speaker 13: agency and grabbing one of the veterans out there, trading

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Speaker 13: Chrishial Parker talked about it in his in his introductory

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Speaker 13: press conference about how that Nickel corner spot is so

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Speaker 13: that's gonna be really important to track.

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Speaker 3: I think over this offseason, building this offense, in this defense,

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Speaker 3: building all the pieces. Really, this roster is gonna be

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Speaker 3: crucial this offseason, and of course it is arts with

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Speaker 3: a draft.

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Speaker 2: But thank you, Nick. We appreciate you always, my guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, Welcome back in to podcast Nation. Coming to

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Speaker 3: I know you've got some do claims. We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: straight to it first, coach, When you evaluate the twenty

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Speaker 16: Uh, just that that I think we really started kind

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Speaker 16: I know exactly what to expect, you know, I feel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the things that it was so big

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Speaker 5: bring Javonte back, you signed a three year deal. How

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Speaker 5: important was he to the overall success of your offense?

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Speaker 5: And what is bringing him back mean for what you

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Speaker 5: want to do going forward.

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Speaker 16: I think he's a huge part of it, not just

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Speaker 16: for the run game. I mean, he does a lot

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Speaker 16: for us in pass protection. He's a good leader, he's

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Speaker 16: a good teammate, and really, you know, just making it

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Speaker 16: the other side, you know, he's he's one of our

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Speaker 16: kind of aspects or ways that we take advantage of

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Speaker 16: the middle of the defense, and so you know, being

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Speaker 16: able to not necessarily just jam the ball down the

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Speaker 16: beat up the inside of the defense with those two

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Speaker 16: guys on the outside, it just makes.

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Speaker 4: Us more hold. You brought up George and cd at

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Speaker 5: You were talking about how one of the things you

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Speaker 5: from last year and look at, Okay, how can we

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Speaker 4: Two guys at wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: How much of that have you already started to do

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Speaker 5: and what are some of the I know you won't

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Speaker 5: share specific x's nose so you don't give away your hand,

667
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Speaker 5: but what have you found as to, Okay, this is

668
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Speaker 5: these are some of the things that we can do

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Speaker 5: more with them in order to be better on offense.

670
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Speaker 5: Next season, we're into the self scout.

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Speaker 16: Really, what I would say that I've learned so far

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Speaker 16: is just sitting in on all these defensive coordinator interviews

673
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Speaker 16: that you know, we were doing in the early part

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Speaker 16: of the off season, of just hearing specifically how some

675
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Speaker 16: of the teams that were playing against her trying to

676
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Speaker 16: defend us and some of the things that concern them

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Speaker 16: or worry them is good for me to hear because

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Speaker 16: quite frankly, I'm not always thinking of it from that

679
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Speaker 16: exact same perspective, and so just hearing some of the

680
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Speaker 16: things that people are saying, Hey, this is what kept

681
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Speaker 16: me up at night, or this is this is what

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Speaker 16: we were really worried that you guys were going to

683
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Speaker 16: do it. Just it gives me thoughts and ideas on

684
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Speaker 16: how we want to attack and use those guys moving on.

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Speaker 3: I love that you mentioned that, because that's something that

686
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Speaker 3: new defensive coordinator Christian Parker mentioned in his press conference,

687
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Speaker 3: is that those guys kept him up at night when

688
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Speaker 3: you guys played them.

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Speaker 2: But when you go back to the running game.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the season is long and you need a you know,

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Speaker 3: backup running back to kind of take the look off

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Speaker 3: of Jabante Williams. Jaden Blue obviously year two for him,

693
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Speaker 3: UH in film MafA as well, what have you seen

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Speaker 3: from Jaden Blue obviously this off season? What are you

695
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Speaker 3: looking forward for him to take that next steps in

696
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Speaker 3: year two?

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Speaker 16: I think, uh, just continuing to mature into a professional

698
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Speaker 16: football player is a process that that everybody kind of

699
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Speaker 16: has to go through, and it's it's a it's a

700
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Speaker 16: different journey for every person that comes in here. So

701
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Speaker 16: his journey is going to be a little bit different

702
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Speaker 16: than Mafa's journey, and all those guys their journeys a

703
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Speaker 16: little bit different than than Paller Booker's journey. So just

704
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 16: continuing to mature into a professional football player that can

705
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Speaker 16: handle their business. And you know, it's it's not it's

706
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Speaker 16: not just one person either, right, Like it takes a village,

707
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Speaker 16: uh to run the football. So at the end of

708
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Speaker 16: the season last year, we're playing with the you know

709
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Speaker 16: guys that UH that that weren't necessarily active on game

710
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Speaker 16: day in the beginning of the season. So we really

711
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Speaker 16: need every single person in that room to be ready

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Speaker 16: to carry the flag when they're called upon.

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Speaker 3: What's the challenge of as an offensive mind, what's the

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Speaker 3: challenge of not staying so stagnant when teams do now

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Speaker 3: have tape on you in the film on you.

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Speaker 16: It's not hard for me because I get bored and

717
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Speaker 16: you know, I always kind of want to push and

718
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Speaker 16: see what the next thing is going to be. And

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Speaker 16: that's one of the things that, in my opinion, is

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Speaker 16: fun late in the season is like how do we

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Speaker 16: build upon what we've done and looking at yourself scout

722
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Speaker 16: from earlier in the season, like, oh man, that was cool.

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Speaker 16: Sometimes you forget some of the things that you did

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Speaker 16: earlier in the season. And that's where like having the

725
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Speaker 16: Thursday game or having the bye week, it can be

726
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Speaker 16: good for you as a coach because sometimes it will

727
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Speaker 16: shed some light or give you some perspective on you know,

728
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Speaker 16: why why haven't we gotten back to that, you know?

729
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Speaker 16: Or how do we build off of something that we've done?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 16: To me, that's that's probably one of the funnest.

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Speaker 4: Parts to go off of that.

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Speaker 5: How do you balance, yes, keeping those those things that

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Speaker 5: are working for you all so recognizing that like you mentioned,

735
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Speaker 5: you know, teams are necessarily going to catch up, but

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Speaker 5: they've got eight years worth of fil of what Brian's

737
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Speaker 5: play calling looks like in Dallas and what's working. Well,

738
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Speaker 5: how do you mix what for you is your role

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Speaker 5: in helping him come up with new concepts that you

740
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Speaker 5: feel like can still work and you still take advantage

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Speaker 5: of all the pieces that you have while also keeping

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Speaker 5: what's been working for you in the past.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, that's a conversation that we're constantly having,

744
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 16: is there's no such thing. People like, I'm not sure

745
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 16: where it came from, but everybody's got like this term

746
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 16: like we're gonna run.

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Speaker 10: It back or we're just going to kind of roll

748
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Speaker 10: it back out there.

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Speaker 16: And to me, that's the worst mindset that you can

750
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Speaker 16: possibly have, is all right, here's some stuff that worked

751
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Speaker 16: last year, let's just try it again. Having said that,

752
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 16: you've also got to understand what your core building blocks

753
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Speaker 16: are and who you are as an offense, and that's

754
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Speaker 16: going to change a little bit every year as well.

755
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Speaker 16: But in my opinion, if you just go back out

756
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Speaker 16: there and you're like, here, it is, Yeah, there's too

757
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 16: many good football players in this league, and there's too

758
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 16: many good coaches in this league for that to work,

759
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Speaker 16: and so you've got to be constantly trying to seek

760
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Speaker 16: the edge and find the sharper points of how you

761
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 16: can get better. And that's what the off season's about,

762
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Speaker 16: in my opinion, is you know, you've got the player

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Speaker 16: acquisition piece, which is why we're here. But all of

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Speaker 16: these conversations that we're having in private with other coaches

765
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Speaker 16: sometimes or college guys, they're all just just just seeking edges, is.

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Speaker 4: What we're trying to do.

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Speaker 5: And on the offensive line, with your tackle specifically Tyler

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Speaker 5: Geidon and Terrence Steele, as you've watched what they've put

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Speaker 5: on tape this past year, what do you feel like

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Speaker 5: you guys are at going.

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Speaker 4: Into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: That's a singlingly big talking point because of Terrence's contract

773
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Speaker 5: and you know whether or not he's returns next year.

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Speaker 5: Is do you feel like you can continue to capitalize

775
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Speaker 5: off of both of those two guys and what do

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Speaker 5: you feel like they did well this past year as

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Speaker 5: you've gotten to watch it back.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, obviously the most important thing for young players,

779
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Speaker 16: specifically talking about Tyler Guiden is is you got to get.

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Speaker 4: Out there and you got to play.

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Speaker 16: And that's you know, the part I know that he's

782
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Speaker 16: been the most frustrated with is he plays really well

783
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Speaker 16: in training camp and then you know, he got dinged

784
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Speaker 16: up and then he starts, you know, coming back really

785
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Speaker 16: without having much of a training camp, and then you know,

786
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 16: then he gets dinged again. So he's just been a

787
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Speaker 16: little bit unlucky in that way, and so we've got

788
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Speaker 16: to get him to the you know, one of the

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Speaker 16: metrics that that I always kind of think of in

790
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Speaker 16: my head for a young players like that twenty to

791
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Speaker 16: twenty five starts. You know, once you can get a

792
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Speaker 16: guy through that first twenty to twenty five starts, you

793
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 16: can really start seeing those guys kind of self reflecting

794
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Speaker 16: and sometimes kind of modernizing their game on their own

795
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Speaker 16: a little bit, which is always fun to see. And

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Speaker 16: then specifically for Terrence, like I just think that there's

797
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Speaker 16: a ton of good things that he's doing, and it's

798
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Speaker 16: the margins are smaller as you get later in your

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00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 16: career for the type of improvement that you specifically want

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Speaker 16: to be able to make. But you know, we've got

801
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Speaker 16: an improvement plan ready for him for you know, probably

802
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 16: seven or eight different things that that maybe he hasn't

803
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 16: worked on in his career, and so I can certainly

804
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 16: see some of the the benefits of the way that

805
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 16: the guy works. But you know, he's an absolute pro,

806
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 16: and we're going to continue to find ways to help

807
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Speaker 16: him get better.

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Speaker 3: Have there been any more conversations of possibly moving Guiten

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00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: out to right tackle or anything like that. I know

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Speaker 3: that was a big topic of conversation this later in

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Speaker 3: the season of twenty twenty five. Have there been any

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Speaker 3: more conversations about that.

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Speaker 16: That's not something that we've gotten into so far this offseason.

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Speaker 16: I mean, at the end of the day, to get

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Speaker 16: your best five guys out there, anything's on the table,

816
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 16: but that specifically hasn't been one.

817
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Speaker 3: All Right, talking about the combine, obviously we're here got

818
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Speaker 3: to talk about it. Have there been any guys that

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Speaker 3: stand out? What kind of impresses you about this offensive

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Speaker 3: line class or just this offensive class as a whole.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, obviously depth of the running back group

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Speaker 16: will be something that will take a look at today

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Speaker 16: in some of the formal interviews. I actually just got

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Speaker 16: here yesterday afternoon, so I'll get to my first formal

825
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 16: interview this morning. And so I haven't really gotten to

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Speaker 16: spend a whole bunch of time with the guys. But

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Speaker 16: when you look at the group as a whole on tape,

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Speaker 16: I think what you see is potentially like non traditional

829
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Speaker 16: positions at premium spots.

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Speaker 4: High in the first round.

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Speaker 16: But you know, you really like a lot what you see,

832
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Speaker 16: particularly on the office.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we know you gotta go. We appreciate you

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Speaker 3: so much, Clayton. Thank you for hopping on podcast Nation.

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Speaker 3: We'll be coming to you live from Indianapolis all week long.

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Speaker 2: I know you gotta go to it, so you're fine.

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Speaker 3: We'll come into you coming from Indianapolis all week long.

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