1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Wednesday edition of Texans All 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Access Siete Siete Juno seven seven twenty one. I liked 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: the seven seven, I like the numerology, and there's probably 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: a way we could add another seven in there. We 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: would all add up to twenty one. We should be great. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: But either way, no more math lessons for the rest 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: of this show. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: side on reporter and joined right off the bat of 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: my partner, the voice of the Texans, Mark Van Meir. Mark, 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: it hit me literally as I said July seventh. I 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: don't know the exact date, but we are about three 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: weeks from training camp, and I don't listen. I you 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: know you know me, and I know you. We geek 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: out over training camp. We've loved training camp. We'd love 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: to start a training camp, even though dog days of 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: training camp. I know. I remind myself, you could be 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: counting beans as an accountant, or you could be out 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: here watching football and writing about it and talking about it. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: What do you want to choose? It's pretty easy, but 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: it's three weeks away in I mean, I know I'll 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: be ready, but I know I'm not ready today. It's 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: sneaking up and it's sneaking out pretty quickly. Yeah, my 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: stock answer people ask me, are you ready for the season? 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: I say no, because we have preseason TV games to 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: put on. We get a lot of work there. We 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: get a lot of work to do, Johnny. As you know, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: especially with this year, where the way we do things, 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and I know this is probably not what people are 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: interested in, but the inside baseball stuff, radio, broadcast booths stuff, 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: the aspects of just getting on the air that way. 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: The preseason TV, which we handle as an organization and 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: our department is in charge of all that stuff, requires 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 1: so much attention to detail and that has not been 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: fully worked out yet. Some of it has to do 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: with protocols, some of it has to do with other things. 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: And you know, this time of year, I start to 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: feel like I could use another week. Yet I'm so 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: fired up to see the team because once you get 39 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: those first practices in, you realize this is it. The 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: plane's about to leave the terminal, right and you are 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: on the record. Once things get rolling in September, that 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: transition from the preseason to the regular season is just 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: so dramatic to me, and I can't wait for it all. 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: It's just weeks away. It is. It is gonna be 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: a little different. Obviously last year was way different. It's 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: almost like you can't even say anything about twenty twenty. 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: So when I say last year, and this would happen 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: as I called games for Sam Houston this spring, I 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: would say, well, you know, last year, and I had 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: to preface and say, I mean twenty nineteen. That was 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: last year. Even though we're spring at twenty one. But 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have that extra week in between third preseason 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: game yea and the opener against Jacksonville. That's gonna be 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: to me a really interesting time. How teams go about it, 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: what teams doing. That third preseason game. We got me 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: thinking about it because mister Tom Brady was on what 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the two on two battle that they had in golf. 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it's called, the championship, A T 59 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: ANDT thing, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And so it got 60 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: me thinking about, Hey, Tom Brady, Yeah, preseason game Tampa Bay. Yeah, 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna see them, And I thought we won't see 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: Brady in that game, will we? I don't know, there's 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: no way, but how our team's gonna handle this with 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: three preseason games in two weeks from that to the opener. 65 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna be interesting to watch 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: for sure. When the Texans began their history, you could 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: just set your watch to it that the first game 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: was about a quarter for the starters, the would be starters, 69 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: The second game was about two, and the third game 70 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: was almost three. They wanted a chance to come out 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: of the locker room at the starters and make halftime adjustments, 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: or at least simulate making halftime adjustments. Well, that has 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: all changed over recent years prior to COVID, as you know, 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Johnny and I think there's no way to predict how 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: teams are really going to handle this. I think Brady 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: is a case unto himself because he's Tom Brady's forty 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: three years old. He probably, you know, he doesn't need 78 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: the work. He needs reps maybe for timing, but I 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: don't know if it's in a preseason game context. And 80 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: look at the way their season went last year. They 81 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: know it's a long haul and they know the most 82 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: important thing is to be playing your best football November 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: December January. That's what's crucial to teams that are gunning 84 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl championship. So I don't know how 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: teams are gonna do it. I think the Texans are 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: gonna be different than a lot of teams, just based 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: on the sheer number of new players and new coaches 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: added to the mix, and that final week that you 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: won't have a preseason game on the Thursday. And look 90 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: back in the day, some teams were still playing that 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: final fourth game on Friday, but then eventually everybody went 92 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: to Thursday, right, And I think college football has to 93 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: be doing cartwheels so celebratory that there's no NFL action 94 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: on Thursday. And you might think, well, wait a minute, 95 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: there's no national game on a Thursday. Yeah, but all 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: the NFL markets their fourth preseason game broadcast crushes anything 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: on college I don't care what it is, they crush it. 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: And now college football has the night to itself, which 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure the NFL TV peeps are saying, you know what, 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't like that part of it at all, you know, Jeeves, 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: and some teams are rerunning old games and things like that. 102 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: We opted not to do that this year, but you 103 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen in the future. Yeah, definitely 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: in the future of this show, we'll have Drew Doherty 105 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: on in the Lab podcast went heavy on LBES in 106 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: large part because of something that I read today that 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: made me get mad and getting angry. And as the 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Hulk said, you don't want to see the Hulk angry. 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't quite like that, but it just bothered me 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: because a lot of stock is put in to what 111 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: NFL coaches, NFL executives, NFL scouts all say, and this 112 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: one is so dead wrong and I kind of lost 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: it a little bit, not much, not much. You don't 114 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: have to worry, but you'll hear that in our next segment. 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: But for you, Mark Vandemir, I like either or or. 116 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: I love putting you on the spot. Are you ready 117 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: for either or? Ready? So last night at some point 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: the name Dan Fouts came up and I was trying 119 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: to think why. I couldn't remember why Dan Fouts came up, 120 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: but and led me to this either or pick one. 121 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: You get to live the career and have the career 122 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: of either Dan Fouts or Trent Dilfer. Dan Fouts no 123 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: ring hall famer. Trent dilfor wins the ring but not 124 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: really thought to be anything other than a journeyman quarterback. 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Pick a career to have either or either Dan Fouts 126 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: or Trent Dilford. You know, that's like asking, do you 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: want to have Charles Barkley's career or the career of 128 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: a guy who want a ring or two and is 129 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: not regarded nearly as high highly regarded as a player. 130 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm asking here. I mean dil fur 131 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: all right. So I don't know what this says about me, Johnny, 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: but I'd rather be Founts because Fouts is known as 133 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback who changed the game, who made the three 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: hundred yard game a thing. Not that he's the first 135 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: guy to have one, but he's the first guy to 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: have as many as he had, and it just wasn't 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: a regular thing. Fouts would throw for three hundred yards routinely, 138 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: and in that era it was ridiculous. And yeah, like, 139 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: what three of the four receivers in the top four 140 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: positions of the league stats at the end of the season. 141 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I think it was a nineteen eighty one. They did that, 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: And look, they did a whole bunch of things that 143 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: no one ever thought could possibly happen. And even though 144 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: it was tragic in a football sense that he could 145 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: never get to a super Bowl. He went to AFC 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: championship games, but never a super Bowl. I still think 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: that I'd rather be Fouts. Even though Dilfer did win 148 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: a ring. You know what Dilfer is. He's the poster 149 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: boy for people who say you can win a super 150 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: Bowl without a great quarterback. Look at Trent Dilfer. That's 151 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: what Dilfer is. And he might be a good commentator, 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: but that is what he's known as. And I'd rather 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: be known as Fouts, who's a Hall of Famer. Okay, 154 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: let me make it more difficult because I just thought 155 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: of maybe a better one. You get to pick the 156 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: career of Dan Fouts or or Joe Flacco. Now Flacco, 157 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Flacco had a lotle no sting Fouts. All right, Listen, 158 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: when I say Joe Flacco's name, when I say Joe's 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's name, you think of, Is Joe Flacco elite? 160 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: That Joe question, right, that's what you think of. I 161 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: don't want to be that. I'd rather be hot. Is 162 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco going to the Hall of Fame, Johnny? I 163 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: don't think so. No, I don't think Joe Flacco's a 164 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, So I'd still would rather be fouts. 165 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, this one, this is like having to pick 166 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: between vander Kidd one and two for the boy one. 167 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: This one has popped in my head. I'm like, all right, 168 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: I can't do this to market. I was like, oh yeah, 169 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to okay, kick one. You don't get both. 170 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: We want both, but you don't get both. Would you 171 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: would you pick either beating Jacksonville to start the season, oh, 172 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: or beating Tennessee in week eighteen to keep them out 173 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Wait, I don't know what else happened 174 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: through the course of the campaign. Nope, nothing else. You 175 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: get one or the other. Beat Jacksonville to kick off 176 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the campaign, get everybody jacked up and going. Or beat 177 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee in week eighteen to knock them out of the playoffs. Okay, 178 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I'll take Tennessee because if they need the win to 179 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: get them in and you beat them, you're probably pretty good. 180 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: You're probably better than a lot of people think. Right Jacksonville. 181 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: You could beat Jacksonville's in Texans, could open the season 182 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: with a victory and people will say, well, Jacksonville is 183 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: just not ready. It's the first game with the Urban 184 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence, and they just weren't ready for the occasion. 185 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna get the kind of 186 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: love that i'd like to see them get with a 187 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: victory that day. Although believe me, I will not be 188 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: complaining about a win. I will be all over it 189 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: and so happy. In fact, I'll probably, you know, Christen 190 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: a bottle of crack, a bottle of Bubbly on the 191 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: side of Energy Stadium and say, look at this, twenty 192 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty one. We're off and running. But I'd rather keep 193 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: the Titans out of the playoffs. I make them miserable. 194 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: I might be better than a lot of people think. 195 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: So I might be having a good season, and you 196 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't mention anything about my playoff possibilities. That's all still 197 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: in play because you didn't tell me any other additional information. 198 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: So I'm taking the victory over Tennessee. Thank you. Okay, 199 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: this one's pretty simple. Who's next Janie or Devin Booker 200 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: or Trey Young In the NBA, who's next? Because if 201 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: you think about the NBA, you know it was Jordan 202 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: for a long time. Then it was Lebron. I mean Lebron, 203 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: he's got a couple more years. I would think who 204 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: takes the mantle Larry Bird and Magic passing the Jordan, 205 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: Jordan passing Lebron or Jordan pass the Kobe Kobe to Lebron. 206 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Who's Lebron passing it to is? So to speak, if 207 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: you got a pick between these three Jannis, Devin Booker 208 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: or Trey Young, they're all they're all great, Okay, So 209 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying if I pick a guy, I'm not 210 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: saying the other guys aren't great. They're all great. But 211 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I think Trey Young is the guy out of that 212 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: group that has the best chance of being next. As 213 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: you put it. There's a lot of meaning to the 214 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: word next as you put it in that sentence in 215 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: that context, because as good as Booker is, and he's 216 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: probably you know, he could easily be next. He's got 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Chris Paul with him, who's making life great for everybody 218 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: on that team. And I love the Chris Paul story. 219 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: We talked about it last night. Jannie is what he is. 220 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: He's a great player, and he might be you know, 221 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: obviously MVP might be NBA Champion, But Trey Young and 222 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks came from out of nowhere. I mean 223 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I don't know they have a good team. 224 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: You don't make it that far without a good team. 225 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: But this is phenomenal stuff. So I'm eager to see 226 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: what the follow up is, what the encore performances have 227 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: in store for us. Out of Trey Young, so I 228 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: would say, of those three, I'm gonna go Trey Young. Yeah, 229 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: I think I Trey Young. But man, Jannie is hard. 230 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: If Yannis gets a championship now he's got he's obviously 231 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: gotta play better he did. He's got to be healthy 232 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,119 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. Devin Booker has sneakily 233 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, I realize who Devin Booker is. It just 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: hit me now. Young heads aren't going to remember the show, 235 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: but Gilligan's Island, Devin Booker is Mary Anne. Yeah. You 236 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: know what. It's funny because I was showing Vander Kidd two, 237 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: who's eight years old Gilligan's Island videos, right, and I 238 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: was I didn't tell them about Ginger and Mary Annie's 239 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: eight years old. And I'm looking at Mary Anne on 240 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: the show and I'm thinking, you know, in our minds, 241 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: mary Anne is this innocent girl next door. Yeah, She's 242 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: wearing the short shorts and the tight tops and the 243 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, she looks amazing, Like, why was mary Anne 244 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: ever this underdog to Ginger in the first place. Mary 245 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Anne's clearly in that league along with Tina Louise. That's 246 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Mary Anne can score forty any night 247 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: on the bucks if needed anyway, Okay, all right, that's 248 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm with you on Nolan. Okay. You love golf, I do, 249 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: but you're not golfing here now. You got a million 250 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: dollars on the line. You got a million dollars on 251 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: the line. Okay. One golfer has to birdie eighteen at 252 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Augusta National and you collect a million dollars right now 253 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: hour anytime in history? Hold on, are you picking either 254 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Bryson D. Shambo or Brooks Kepka? Which guy you put 255 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: your chips right next to a guy and he gets 256 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: a birdie? You get a million bucks? Kepka, Kepka, Kepco 257 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, until D Shambo really does it? Okay, and 258 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: on a more consistent level. Yeah, I'm going with Kepka 259 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: in this little battle here, okay. And I root against 260 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: Keepka all the time. You know, you know, Kepco was 261 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: to me the guy who ruined my sunday watching a major. 262 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: When I first watched him win one, I thought, here's 263 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's gonna win a major and 264 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna disappear, and you know, like Danny Willett winning 265 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: the Masters or one of these guys, and I'm never 266 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna see him again. And he's ruining my sunday. So 267 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: I hate him. And then he started winning a lot, 268 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: I thought, well, Kepca's for real. Uh de shambo, though, 269 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: I think it's great for golf. I think what he 270 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: wins as the way he hits it, you know, the 271 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: long drive, champion drives. I love all that stuff with 272 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: the game of golf. We need more characters in the 273 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: game like him. So I'll go Kepco, though, And you're 274 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: a little either or scenario here. That meltdown in the 275 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: US Open the back nine was Bruce bad. It was bold, 276 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: but you know a lot of great golfers have had it. 277 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: Or Rory had a meltdown at Augusta. Okay, we know 278 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Greg Norman, of course, but you know Norman won a 279 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: lot of stuff too. It's but he never came back 280 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: and won the Masters, Rory is going back and one 281 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: of the masters, right, yeah, he's one of the the Masters. 282 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, he went back to the scene of the crime, 283 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: if you will, and did. But I'll be curious to 284 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: see alt n Shambo. He seems like the kind of 285 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: guy that I think confessor for a while, or it's 286 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: I was out of his system the second he walked 287 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: off that course. I don't think there's any in between. 288 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I think it's one or the other. Either he is 289 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: brooding over it still or he forgot about second he 290 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: walked off that course. We still haven't seen We still 291 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen speech really come back after he had that 292 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: melt out at the Masters a few years ago, which 293 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: wasn't quite as bad, but it still wasn't good, right, 294 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: I think he hit two of the water on twelve, 295 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: just wasn't good. And look, golf is such a mental game. 296 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: It confounds me, Johnny, because the ball just sits there, 297 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: doesn't Moveall that doesn't move, you know what I mean. 298 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Like football, the quarterback has to process so much and 299 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: everything and all the bullets are flying and guys are 300 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: trying to take your head off, and everything's moving. Golf, 301 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: the ball doesn't move. It's still a hard game. Speaking 302 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: in quarterbacks, this time, I'm giving you a million bucks, okay, 303 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: and you've got two chips to play it on, and 304 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: I guarantee one of these two is making the Professional 305 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. All right, you have to put 306 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: a million bucks behind the guy that's going to do it, Okay, 307 00:16:53,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: either Justin Herbert or Kyler Murray. Why are you doing 308 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: this to me? Herbert to me is the guy. I 309 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: think Murray is really good and intriguing, but I'm not 310 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: there yet with him. All right, Yeah, I see things 311 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: that are really good. I get it. But Herbert to me, 312 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: when I watched him play last year, I Johnny, I 313 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: had no expectations of him, right, I thought, all right, 314 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: whatever they drafted him high, he could be Blank Gabbert. 315 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, with all due respect to Blank, could be 316 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: one of these guys, right, Jake Locker, that they drafted 317 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: high because they felt like they needed to draft a quarterback. 318 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: And he's thrust into the lineup and I'm and Johnny, 319 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm not watching the game like you are, of course, 320 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: and you and Andre, but I'm watching Herbert. I'm thinking, 321 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: this guy knows exactly what he wants to do with 322 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: the football and he's and he's doing it. He's like, 323 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: i'n't gonna put it over there at this point and boom, 324 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hit my back foot and the ball 325 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: is out right. He did a lot of really interesting, 326 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: impressive things last year in his rookie campaign. I have 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: the feeling that he's the kind of guy's gonna take 328 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: that leap forward as well, and it's gonna be frightening. 329 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: And they're coming here to play the Houston Texans. I 330 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to see him. But maybe I can't wait 331 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: because I have everything I just said about him. Yeah. 332 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: One thing though about twenty twenty one for Justin Herbert 333 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: is he doesn't have a certain quarterbacks coach that he 334 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: once had and Pep Hamilton was is here, and I 335 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a good thing for the quarterbacks 336 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: here for this roster. Offensive coordinators, Joe Lombardi, you've been 337 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: with the Saints. He'd been around Drew Brees for a while, 338 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: but you change coordinators enough on our young quarterback. It's 339 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: at least with Murray right off the bat. Now we 340 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: don't know what Cliff Kingsbury is gonna be as head coach. 341 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: We don't know that, but at least there's consistency there 342 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: for Kyle Murray. And if the Cardinals do win, then 343 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Murray is gonna Murray and Kingsbury's gonna be together for 344 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: a while. And that has always been the ticket. When 345 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: you start talking about Hall of Fame quarterbacks, what do 346 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: you realize, Well, Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy were together 347 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: for a long time, Andy Reid Patrick mahon has been 348 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: together for a long time. Continuity matters. Justin Herbert on 349 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: the second offensive coordinator, So we'll see how that goes 350 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: for him. Okay, last one, you get to pick a 351 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: Texan safety at his best. I don't know why safety 352 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: came up. I think because I played in position, so 353 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. Okay, they each had really 354 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: good one season's. You could argue a couple for one guy. 355 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: Pick a text in safety Bernardo, either Bernard Pollard or 356 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: Quintin Demps. I like Pollard. I just like Pollard first 357 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: of all. And look, we interviewed Quinton and he was fine. 358 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: He was good, right. Pollard his next level when you 359 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: interview him, and he is a vicious hitter. Okay, damps 360 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: to me, I credit him. You have to give seven 361 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: interceptions and how good would that look right now after 362 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: what you went through last year. But I just think 363 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: Pollard at his best is a better player, and I'd 364 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: rather have Pollard. Pollard in OH nine was really good. 365 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: He hit the snot at a top radio a couple 366 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: of times in that regular season finale. That was great 367 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: to see and great quote as well, you know which, Look, 368 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: that's not the be all Lendall, but for us, it 369 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: kind of helps. So I'll take Pollard. You know, another 370 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: guy who played well here for a very short stint 371 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: about a year and was a late late training camp 372 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: type pickup, maybe right before camp or during camper rick 373 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Smith was Eugene Wilson. He played well here as as well. 374 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: So look, I know it hasn't always been the greatest 375 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: position for this team, but I'm eager to see this 376 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: group here. I'm eager to see what Justin Reid does 377 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: this season. I'm eager to see how this all plays 378 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: out with the additives, So let's find out. But yeah, 379 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: in the either or that you gave me its Pollo, 380 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: I would go Quentin Demps just because I want the ball. 381 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: I would I would want the ball in Quentin Demps 382 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: goes and gets the football. But that makes that one. Now, 383 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you obviously didn't think I'll tell you this though. 384 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: If Quinn Demps is listening to this show right now, 385 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: he's ready to run up the stairs, he's ready to 386 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: come out, he's ready to come after Well, I didn't 387 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: know that, right. So you're saying, I get his stats 388 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: from his best year, or you can just just which 389 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: guy would which guy would you take? Yeah, because I 390 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: think that Demps himself would admit, Hey, the ball is 391 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: not always going to bounce in my direction, right, I mean, 392 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: that's that's got he went got it too, he win't 393 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: got it? I know, I know, I know, I know. 394 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away from him. But he'll admit that. 395 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: You know, you you start from zero again, and that 396 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: might not be seven interceptions. Now he might say, you 397 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: know what, I could have had eleven? So who knows? 398 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: You're right? Coming up next, we'll go in the lab. 399 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: We're talking linebackers in particular ZC forty one Za cutting 400 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: him next right here in Texas Axis arent Texas a 401 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: oxis parent Texas Axis. Alright, So everybody, welcome back this 402 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Texans All access from the Hunday Texans 403 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I am John Harris, glad to be with 404 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: you on this Wednesday evening. It's time to go in 405 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: the lab, and I got a little burr up my 406 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: saddle for the podcast this week. Here's Drew and I 407 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: talking a little bit about linebackers, in particular number forty one, 408 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham. Hey, they're welcome into in the lab. This 409 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: is a work in progress. So this is something that 410 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: is making Tyler Marcott's skin absolutely crawl because, Hey, I'm 411 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Drew Jorty, You're John Harris. We're down here in the 412 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: tour theater and the guys are Tyler Marcott, Mitchell Morland. 413 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: The guys are getting set up for a shoot for 414 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Texans three sixty. That's the TV show that I host. 415 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: You've been on it a bunch of times. Vandier's coming 416 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: on at today. It airs on Saturday nights, ABC thirteen 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: k r K at eleven pm, so DVR watch it 418 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's also on YouTube after the fact, 419 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: but into fourth the fact. Really, but you're gonna see 420 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: guys walking around. Maybe you might see lights flickering on 421 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: off as they test things. But we thank them for 422 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: doing what they do. We thank them for allowing us 423 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: to do this here because upstairs in the business side 424 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: of things, we're out of power. So no power for 425 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I don't feel like sweating because 426 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm a prima donna and you're your house. So it's 427 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: all good. Man. If there's one thing that I just 428 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: absolutely can't stand now, I'll go for a workout. I'll 429 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: wear extra clothes. I like sweating the toxins out if 430 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing a workout or whatever. Naturally, if I'm just 431 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: if I'm just sitting in the crib and it's hot 432 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: in Hayes, I lose my I lose my mind. Yes, 433 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and that happened to us. Gosh, it was. It was 434 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: like three weeks ago. I think three or four weeks ago. 435 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I had gone with Jack with a friend to meet 436 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: a friend. Your sons. Yeah, my son Jack and we 437 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: were meeting U Don Sanders at New at a New 438 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: McCoy concert, and Don had he wanted us to go, 439 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: and he got a table for a number of people, 440 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: and so Jack and I went and we left the 441 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: house to go. I was out in the woodlands. It 442 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: is a place called docy Dough, great food. Neil McCoy 443 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: was fantastic. We left it maybe five o'clock from our house. 444 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: My wife texted me within ten minutes said, hey, the 445 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: powers off. We didn't get power until like six o'clock 446 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: the next day, and it was the hottest day in 447 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: Houston to that point, and so it was miserable and 448 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: my wife had been in the whole time. It was 449 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: just I, Oh, I don't know how jar Jar Binks 450 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: would make it through a hot day, how he would 451 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: do or I don't know exactly which like it. I 452 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: don't know, but would maybe struggle. Yes, jar Jar Binks, 453 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: of course is a Star Wars character. Tyler Marcott's favorite 454 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: Star Wars character. I like that you McCoy because not 455 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: everybody knows and recognizes Neil McCoy, but you know, growing 456 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: up in the nineties and the eighties, all she's gotta 457 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: do is just give me that wink. So I like 458 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: he's saying that song. I had not heard him in concert, 459 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: and Don Dondu, yeah it is. Don produced an album 460 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: for him and it was a little bit more of 461 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: a cruner album, and so I listened to that and 462 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I love kind of the Cruners, 463 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, Sinatra, Michael Bubley. I mean, I love that 464 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: so I love that album. So he sang a couple 465 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: three songs off that, which is just different from what 466 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: he normally does. But man, j I'm telling you, he 467 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: put on a show that he smokes. I mean, Jack 468 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: doesn't really look like cut your music. I mean he's 469 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more EDM techno. I mean that's kind 470 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: of his his thing, and definitely eighties. He loves the cure. 471 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: But if you can entertain, you can entertain, right, Yeah, 472 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. He put on a show. He told jokes, 473 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he told stories. He was absolutely fantastic. Um, 474 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: but our powers out. So when we got home at 475 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: like I don't know, ten o'clock ish, Um, I was 476 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: a little fired up, and so I took the Twitter, which, 477 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: by the way, that's a lesson in and of itself. 478 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Never go to Twitter when you're mad. Ever, you just 479 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: fall into the cesspool of negativity and it's just not goodbody. 480 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Somebody will pounce on it and just exacerbate things. Maybe 481 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: multiple will do that. But listen, Uh, well that's a 482 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: perfect segue because sometimes you you get wound up. Now, yeah, 483 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: it could be something you've read. It could be when 484 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: you and I are walking from the practice bubble across 485 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: the Houston Methodist Training Center practice bubble across Kirby to 486 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: the stadium, and We'll be walking at a good brisk pace, 487 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: and I'll look to my left and notice that you're 488 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: making sure you're conscious not to step on any cracks, 489 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: and so I'll just kind of scurry up about five 490 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: steps ahead of you and start stepping on every single crack, 491 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: especially at junctures. It just drives you bananas. But it 492 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: doesn't That doesn't drive you as bananas. Is what's got 493 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: you worked up today. And we had a plan. We're 494 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna disavow that plan. We're gonna sweep it 495 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: all the side. And I want to get into what 496 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: got you Maybe not hot under the collar, but it's 497 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: got you a little bit worked up about the Texans 498 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: and a certain player that's been pretty good for this 499 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: team and over the last few years. Well, we all 500 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: know this is that time of year where you see 501 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot of lists. I put together my own list. 502 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: I put together the Hairs one hundred, one hundred players, 503 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: one hundred best players in Texas face in twenty twenty one, 504 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: and I didn't rank them, but I pulled them out 505 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: and I posted it by positions. I thought it was 506 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: kind of easier to kind of do it that way, 507 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: to have them all kind of you know, in a group, 508 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes you're kind of splitting hairs between safety over here, 509 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: linebacker over here. I mean, I already do it for 510 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: the draft, but to me, with the draft, it's it's 511 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: much easier with this. I just went through and I 512 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: was going through the best players, and so I I 513 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: did that series. I think it's a great series. I 514 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: love when when groups or individuals do it. Pete Prisco 515 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: does his uh Pete Prisco Top one hundred players. Yeah, 516 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: he gets people worked up too, he does, he does, 517 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: and he Prisco doesn't back off either. I love that 518 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: he's awesome. And so ESPN's doing doing one and it's 519 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: going on right now. And not to be a shameless 520 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: plug for ESPN at all, but I like to read them. 521 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: And I will say first of all, this, I think 522 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: this list really I don't have any problem with the list, 523 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: to be honest, and what I think it was Jeremy 524 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: Faller put it together and they talked to I think 525 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: what they say fifty league executives, coaches, scouts, and players 526 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: to stack the top ten players at eleven different positions. 527 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: Edge rushers, interior d line, corners, safety's, offensive tackles, interior 528 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: offensive line, quarterback, running backs, wide seriars, titans, and off 529 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: ball linebackers. And that one was posted today, and so 530 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: thinking about the Texas in twenty twenty one, I'm thinking, Okay, 531 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: what players of the Texans could end up Beano's list, 532 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: And I think, okay, learn me Tonsil at offensive tackle. 533 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: I think he's got a good chance of being on 534 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: a list. And then I thought about off ball linebackers. 535 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to read this one, because 536 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: I felt like, Okay, Zach Cuttingham's got a chance. And 537 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: so two things really kind of hit me as I 538 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 1: went through this list. The first one was looking at 539 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: the ten that they came up with, and it's led 540 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: by Devin White, who was phenomenal in the playoffs last 541 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: year for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. His teammate LaMonte David 542 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: comes in number five. Thankfully the Texas don't face those 543 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: two guys this year, but after a Tanneman on one team, 544 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, but we do face number two Fred 545 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Warner Champasco forty nine ers. We do face number three 546 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner and the Seattle Seahawks. We face number four twice, 547 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard from the Indianapolis Colts, and we also face 548 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, number eight the Buffalo Bills. And this one 549 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: is I was like, I've always been a Miles Jack fan. 550 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: I would not take Miles Jack as a linebacker right 551 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: now over Zach Cuttingham. But Miles Jack comes in at 552 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: number ten. Somebody, how are you raked up? Then? What's 553 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: going on? So? What's got you worked up? Well? First 554 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: of all, facing those linebackers is gonna be. That's gonna 555 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: this running game. You and I've talked about this a lot, true, 556 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: this Texas running game is it's gonna be I think 557 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: in the spotlight, it's gonna be under a microscope. It's 558 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: gotta be better. This team doesn't need to turn into 559 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five Oklahome on triple option and that's all 560 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: they do and pile up yards and can't throw it. 561 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: They've got to provide some balance though, They've gotta take 562 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: them to heat off more likely to try Taylor maybe 563 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Davison Wills, whoever is playing quarterback, they've gotta take some 564 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: heat off. They've got to established a line of scrimmage. 565 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult against linebackers like that. So then 566 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: I went to linebackers also receiving votes, guys like Patrick 567 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Queen Baltimore, Ravens dott To High Towers coming back off 568 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: after an opt out, Devin Bush Steelers absolutely, Dion Jones 569 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: probably would have made my top ten, just because how 570 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: athletic he is. Joe the Show Schobert Jacksonville Jaguars did 571 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: a pretty get interview with NFL Radio the other day. 572 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Has some good things to say about Trevor Lawrence, which 573 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: made me want to puke. Zach Cunningham got some votes 574 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: on this, and I thought it was pretty interesting. And 575 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: for each guy, because they had reached out to executives 576 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: and scouts and coaches, etc. They have a quote on 577 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: each guy. It says, for Zach Cuttingham has a lot 578 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: of has a lot of strengths, length, size, productive, And 579 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: this is where I about hit the roof, but not 580 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: physical enough. And I read that, I was like, whoa, 581 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: whoa wait wait wait wait rewand rewind rewind and I 582 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: went right straight to the Yeah, I read that. I 583 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: read that absolutely dead on but not physical enough time out. Okay, 584 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: when I think of Zach Cunningham, my lasting memory of 585 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: him has been over the last two or three years. 586 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's taught this way, 587 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's doing stuff that, like you, 588 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: fundamentally are not supposed to be doing. But it's like 589 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: he stands up and just throws a guy by his 590 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: upper body down to the That looks like it's a 591 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: hard thing to do, I mean to me, and that 592 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: seems like you got to be pretty physical to do that. 593 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, Go ahead, No, you hit right on it. 594 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean that that's part of it. Dereck Henry was 595 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: on I think he was on the Busting with the 596 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Boys podcast. That's Taylor Luan and Wilcompton. They do a 597 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: podcast from a bus and somehow the topic of Zach 598 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: cutting Gham came up and Dereck Henry was talking about 599 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: it and said, yo, Zach Cuttingham doesn't get enough credit 600 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: for what he does, and he was kind of breaking 601 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: him down. It was it was awesome, actually, yeah, But 602 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: the thoughts that I have about cutting him. Go back 603 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: to third and one and twenty eighteen against Zeke Elliott, 604 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: one of the one of the bigger power backs, one 605 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: of the better power backs in the league, and cutting him, 606 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: stones him at the line of streamers and third one 607 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: forces upon hop spins. Happens a few plays later, Texas 608 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: winning overtime fourth and one. A few weeks later against 609 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, Don and a goal line, he blasts 610 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the Anthony Firk Sir, Luke Stocker. Yeah, a little short run. 611 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: Mar Miller takes into the house the very next play 612 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: after that, fourth and one. Going to Tennessee in twenty nineteen, 613 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Don and a goal line, They throw a ball a 614 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: Kardie blasting game and blasting game turns up and it 615 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: looks like, oh, he's gonna score. This is the point. 616 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: And he gets blasted, I mean blasted by Zach cutting him. 617 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many times I've seen 618 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry get into a hole, not as much the 619 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: last couple of years, but get into a hole and 620 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Zach Cuttingham is there and faces him up. Bang, I 621 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: mean form tackles him and an NFC coach, Now, of 622 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: course it's NFC coach, and so that was the one 623 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: thing that got me as like so much of a lot, 624 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: even stuff that's out there you see it from an 625 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: NFC coach or the other side or you know this, 626 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: that focus is on a just backs which two played. 627 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate, I suppose can happen? You don't. You only 628 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: see a guy once and maybe he doesn't have the 629 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: best of game and last year he sees a game. 630 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't know who really shone 631 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: last year on defense for the tennis and maybe maybe 632 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: he's basing it off that if so, okay, but yeah, 633 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 1: the bulk of his career, I would not I would 634 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: never label that guy as not physical. And I would 635 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: say the first probably I don't know, five six games. 636 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I think it was right after I think the 637 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: Tennessee game at Tennessee a week six, I believe that was. 638 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: That was a game I don't think Zach played played 639 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: very well. I mean, I think he would tell you 640 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: he didn't play very well in that game. But from 641 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: that point going forward up until the Bears game. The 642 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Bears game was not a good game for anybody at 643 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: that It was a tough day. But I think Zach 644 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: played much much, much better. And I tweeted earlier I 645 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: just said, look, Zach's not perfect, not not by any means, 646 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: and there's some really good I didn't I wasn't saying 647 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: z actually being a top ten. But he's got things 648 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: that he needs to work on, no doubt. But the 649 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: last thing I would say in that list, like maybe 650 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: us all the different things you want to linebacker to 651 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: be physical, being a tough he knocks that off the list. 652 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: That's the last thing that he would need to improve. 653 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: One play recognition, staying discipline, you know, pass drops, staying 654 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: in coverage without being grabby or holding. You know, there's 655 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: some things he's got to work on, but not being physical, 656 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: that's that's not one of them. And I think Drew 657 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: and I think this is where it kind of leads 658 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: into this discussion point, and that is this linebacker group 659 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. It's got a lot of pieces 660 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: that are unknown to Texas fans. A lot of piece 661 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: is unknown to us. I mean, we've seen him as 662 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: as opponents, but as long as forty one's in the 663 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: middle of that, whether it's and whether it's a Mike 664 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: backer or will whatever, however, that's going to fit the best. 665 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: I think it's probably Mike is the best. But we'll see. 666 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: As long as forty one sitting there in the middle, 667 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel pretty darn good about what that run 668 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: defense is going to be. As long as the guys 669 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: up front can protect him better than they did last year. Yeah, 670 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: and you know, Lovey Smith, he's a defensive coordinator now. 671 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: He was very effusive in his praise of Zack Cunningham. 672 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: And you know, this is a regime, this is you know, 673 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: and really over the last ten years, they're they're kind 674 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: of hesitant to call out and single out individual players 675 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: and you know, say good things about him. Leve Smith 676 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: said good things about Zach Cunningham and is looking forward 677 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: to having him as one of the leaders in that 678 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: defense and having him And that's a guy, Levy Smith 679 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: who's seen great linebacker play. I mean, think about it. 680 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: Coach two Hall of famers in Erlocker, Derek Brooks, Lance 681 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: Briggs no slouch either. I mean that's three guys right there. 682 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: That's quite a quite a trio of linebackers. Coached him 683 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: as a coordinator, coached him as a head coach. I mean, 684 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: he's been around him and seen him in various capacities. 685 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm gonna roll with Lovey Smith. He 686 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about when he sees linebackers, and 687 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: he seems to be pretty excited about Zack Cunningham for 688 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: this year and beyond. Yeah. Absolutely, And I actually like 689 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 1: the mix of what's their linebacker? Zack's in that mix. 690 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: You know there have been players that obviously came over. 691 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: You interviewed mu Grugier Hill. How does he fit into 692 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: this KPL Kevin Pierre Lewis, how he fits into this mix? 693 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: A lot of veterans at that particular position. But Zach 694 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: Cunningham driving the bus. I feel good about those guys 695 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: fitting around him. Nevill Hewett from the New York Jets 696 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: Love the Jets and tackles in twenty twenty one, you 697 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: talk about a lot of a lot of tackles, a 698 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: lot of tackles between nevill Hewett and Zach Cunningham over 699 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: the last year. Now, I've said many times tackle can 700 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: the tackle stat will be sort of doesn't tell a 701 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: full story, if I will doesn't always lead to something great, 702 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: like wait a second, why does this guy have one 703 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty some odd tackles, but at some point 704 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: you look at it and say, Okay, this guy knows 705 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: how to find the football. You put them together and 706 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: hopefully that ends up helping this run defense. It does 707 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: start up front. The guy's up front've gotta be able 708 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: to do their job. But I feel like the linebacker 709 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: crew is gonna be a little bit better uh than 710 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: people than people anticipate for sure. Well we'll get to 711 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: see that firsthand in like less than three weeks. Four 712 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: weeks really, because it's coming. We're July seventh, man happy 713 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: uh happy saying for mean date all you folks out 714 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: there running the bulls in Pamplona, Spain. Um, yeah, it's 715 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: July seventh, so John, oh is it running of the 716 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: bulls on July seventh? There is a song I learned 717 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: it in Spanish class. Who is uno doste febrero triste 718 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: marso quatro debrie sin god mayo siste juno san fermin. 719 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: It was pambloh must here. So we're gonna we're going 720 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: to Pamplona, uh because it's July seventh. So yeah, I've 721 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: sung two times the song of Neil McCoy song and 722 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: a Spanish thing. More of that? You even more of 723 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: that on in the lab? Yes, he does. There's no 724 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: doubt Drew needs to sing more on in the lab. 725 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: We'll do that next time. All right, next segment, we'll 726 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: go round the NFL. Yeah, it's a slow time, but 727 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: still plenty of stuff happening. We'll do that next right 728 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. We'll back to our final 729 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: segment of this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I 730 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: am your host, John Harris, Football and outsideline reporter for 731 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: your Houston Texans, and we'll go round the NFL. Last night, 732 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: Mark and I talked about this briefly. Last night. Aaron Rodgers, 733 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: Bryson d Shambo, Phil Mickelson, Tom Brady had their little 734 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: two on two Tay dot Tay miked up the entire way. 735 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers asked by Brian Anderson who will be essentially 736 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: who will be the quarterback in twenty twenty one for 737 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: the Packers, and Rogers said, we'll see I just essentially Anderson? 738 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: How are you? Anders answered it, and that was like 739 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: my mom growing up. Mom, Mom, are we gonna have? 740 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: What do want I get for Chris? Well? What about this? 741 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: I get all excited about things, and she just said, 742 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: we'll see. Oh, I used to drive me insane, probably 743 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: driving Packers fans insane. But he didn't say he wouldn't 744 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: be the guy. He just said, I don't know, we'll see, 745 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: won't we. So Aaron Rodgers and I always say playing 746 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: games but having fun with it. I don't know if 747 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: that's the right way of saying it, but that he 748 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: did last night. Nikila Harry, we talked about this a 749 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 1: little bit, formally requests a trade from the New England Patriots. 750 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: Another guy's on six ten on sports trade to six 751 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: tenth today. I think I heard Landry at some point 752 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: talking about this and wondering whether the Texans should make 753 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: a deal or make a trade for Nikila Harry, Like, 754 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: no way. If he's requesting a trade and he's not happy, 755 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: I guarantee you teams around the league are just like, nah, 756 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: let is wait for Belichick to cut him. Bill's not 757 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: gonna put up with that. He's not gonna put up 758 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: with that. So they're gonna, I would imagine, try and 759 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: get something done in training camp from a standpoint of 760 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: can he play for us? And if he can't cut him, 761 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 1: he's open to thirty one teams. I think Cecil Shorts 762 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: probably put it best. He said, look, we're not giving 763 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: up any trade assets for him, no, but if he 764 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: gets cut, maybe we'll think about it. But to me, 765 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: Nico Collins six four two fifteen, that's who Nikkila Harry 766 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. Hopefully Niko Collins will be better 767 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: than Nikkila Harry. But I thought it was interesting because 768 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 1: there are a couple of posts of the kill Harry 769 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: after his agent said he was virtually unstoppable in college, 770 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: and then you throw on some of his tape and 771 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: it's like, not really, I gotta say I missed. I 772 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: thought to kill Harry would be. I thought he'd be 773 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: a solid receiver. I thought he would be kind of 774 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: a poor man's poor man's DeAndre Hopkins because of his hands. 775 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: But the one thing that hop does and continues to 776 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: do better than a lot of guys in the league 777 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: his body control. There's no way you're gonna fight through 778 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins on slant route. He's gonna get that football, 779 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of receivers that watch him runs slant routes, 780 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: they're not going to let that dB in there. N 781 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Kila Harry lets him in all the time. Bradley Roby 782 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: did that in the Sunday Night game. So we'll see 783 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: what the future is Freddy Killa Harry, but his agent 784 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: making it public. He's asked for a trade request from 785 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots. We'll see how that goes for you, pal, 786 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: Best of luck. One final story. I think this is 787 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: really really cool. I want to get into this maybe 788 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more later in the week. Defense Secretary 789 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: Yes in the United States grants Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback 790 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: Cameron Kinley's request to play football this year. Defense Secretary 791 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: Lloyd Austin granted Kinley's request to attempt to make the 792 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: Bucks roster. Kinley is a graduate of the Naval Academy, 793 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. He will go to training camp. 794 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said, that's cool, go for it. 795 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: And I think that's a fantastic thing to give him 796 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: that opportunity. And Kinley was very very appreciative of Secretary 797 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 1: Austin's decision. So he can represent the military in the NFL. 798 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: Is very very cool. All right, big thanks to Mark, 799 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: to Drew, to Arbu you for listened. Will see next 800 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: time and as always go Texans.