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Speaker 1: Oh, welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of Clay and Bought kicks off right now,

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Speaker 2: and let's just jump to it. We got in the

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Speaker 2: Oval office President Trump with the premiere of Turkey. He

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Speaker 2: is sitting down, they are talking, he is taking questions.

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Speaker 2: Let jump to it.

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Speaker 1: Play it. Great friendship, President Trump.

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Speaker 2: A few news items. Sorry, well, he said that the

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Speaker 2: right is a lot tougher than the left.

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Speaker 1: That's true for sure.

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Speaker 2: We'll give you some of the top sound bites and

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Speaker 2: some of the most important things from all of this

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Speaker 2: here coming up shortly. We've also got some news on

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Speaker 2: the economy. James Comy in the headlines once again because

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Speaker 2: of the possibility of charges against Kombe before that five

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Speaker 2: year clock runs out on the Statute of Limitations. We've

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Speaker 2: got more updates also on the ice facility, that fatal

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Speaker 2: shooting that happened yesterday, discuss that Hillary Clinton is weighing

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Speaker 2: in on things, a whole range of things right now,

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Speaker 2: which we will share with you so we can pull

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Speaker 2: apart her preposterous arguments. And we've also got Washington Post

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Speaker 2: yesterday reporting that marked classified material was found in the

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Speaker 2: home of former Trump national security advisor Bolton. He's also

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Speaker 2: formerly a Fox News contributor, so a lot of you

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Speaker 2: have seen him on Fox. He's the guy with the

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Speaker 2: mustache he'd seen over many years. That's not good. If

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Speaker 2: that is accurate, he's in. If that reporting, i should say,

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Speaker 2: is accurate, that's going to be a very tough one

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Speaker 2: to explain to anyone. And he's not a former president.

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Speaker 2: There's no basis for him to have declassified anything. So

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Speaker 2: we can talk a little bit more about that. But

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Speaker 2: I just want to note I love when we can

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Speaker 2: take a moment for just some positive news. And here

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Speaker 2: is CNBC's Rick Santelli saying the look second quarter GDP

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Speaker 2: even a little better than anticipated. Play clip one.

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Speaker 3: Now on the GDP side, this is our third time

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Speaker 3: to be honest. Usually the revisions as you get to

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Speaker 3: and we have to go back aways here to four

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Speaker 3: point four and that was the third quarter of twenty three. Now,

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Speaker 3: it is important to point out that if you look

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Speaker 3: at the first quarter, final down half of percent. There's

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Speaker 3: a balance there, but the balance is moving in favor

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Speaker 3: of Momentum is moving in.

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Speaker 1: Favor for better growth.

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Speaker 2: Clay looking pretty good still on the economy, and Trump

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Speaker 2: not getting much credit for it from the media for

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Speaker 2: obvious reasons. But if somebody had told me at the

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Speaker 2: start of his presidency, this is where the numbers would be,

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Speaker 2: and this is how the markets and also how rates

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Speaker 2: and inflation and everything would look at this point, it's

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Speaker 2: pretty darn good. I think the president should be happy,

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Speaker 2: certainly with the progress so far we've seen in year one.

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Speaker 4: No doubt, and we've got record basically high stock prices.

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Speaker 4: You've got overall inflation continuing to come down. The much

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Speaker 4: maligned impact of tariffs seem to be nonexistent. All of

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Speaker 4: the experts are now buck as you watch, coming out

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Speaker 4: and saying, hey, well, we haven't seen the pricing impact

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Speaker 4: So I would suspect that you're going to see fifteen

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Speaker 4: going to help to free up you were talking I

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Speaker 4: to balance a budget. One is to essentially cut spending.

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Speaker 1: In a massive way. That's what Doje was trying to do.

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Speaker 4: There is I'm just going to tell you there is

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Speaker 4: this is where I think Elon Musk is correct. So

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Speaker 4: how do you get about balancing the budget. You have

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Speaker 4: to grow the economy and you have to grow the

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Speaker 4: I think that's where Elon now is saying, Hey, AI

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Speaker 2: Santa Claus is very tough to compete with, getting free

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Speaker 2: over again, and you know, people get very It's funny too,

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Speaker 2: because everyone wants to cut It's like everyone's a hero

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the budget until you actually talk

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Speaker 2: then we have some we have some big problem.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So this is what I wanted to play before. I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to know this was just said by President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Now just to set this up, play so we've had

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Speaker 2: the processing of how many lunatics are out there who

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Speaker 2: they know in their life or so that that would

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Speaker 1: There's that.

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Speaker 2: There's now the we'll have more details on this to

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Speaker 2: share with everybody, more reporting on it. But the guy

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Speaker 2: So this guy is anti ice, but he killed two

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Speaker 2: But also you just add, this person is such a

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Speaker 1: We killed two of them. It's clearly.

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Speaker 4: ABI has released a couple of more data points on

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Speaker 4: that guy. We try to avoid naming these guys, so

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that, but he downloaded the

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Speaker 4: list of DHS facilities. This is according to libs of TikTok,

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Speaker 4: repeated searches on the Charlie Kirk shooting, tracked ICE agent

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Speaker 1: ICE agents real terror.

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Speaker 4: So anyone out there who is trying to argue that

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Speaker 4: And again that is the absolute latest in terms of

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Speaker 2: So this is cut twenty seven. Trump spoke about I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: cut twenty six. Eighteen twenty eight, Trump spoke about this

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Speaker 2: left wing violence play. What are you hold responsible for

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Speaker 5: Radical left rhetoric, The radical left is causing the problem.

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Speaker 5: They're out of control, they're saying things, and they're really

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Speaker 5: at some of these people. They're very low IQ people actually.

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Speaker 5: But the radical left is causing this problem, not the right.

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Speaker 5: The radical left and it's going to get worse, and

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Speaker 5: ultimately it's going to go back on them. I mean,

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Speaker 5: bad things happen when they play these games. And I'll

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Speaker 5: give you a little clue. The right is a lot

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Speaker 5: They're not doing it, and they better not get them

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Speaker 5: I don't want to see that happen either. I'm the

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Speaker 5: president of all the people. But the radical left is

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Speaker 5: causing this radical left democrats are causing this problem, and

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Speaker 1: So we don't want that play.

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Speaker 2: I just appreciate that the President is saying it in

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Speaker 2: the left is the problem, guys, the left are the

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Speaker 2: Davy Crockett, fantastic American icon. Crockett coffee, a delicious coffee.

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Speaker 2: When he's saying Crockett, he's referring to Congresswoman Crockett, who

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Speaker 2: the left is the problem. The left is where the

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Speaker 4: Another left wing violent incident that has been getting some

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Speaker 4: it's happening in every state. And again, the gunman who

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Speaker 2: We We didn't even mention this either, because there's so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And second, he was upset.

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Speaker 2: the air, I might add, and you're like, these people

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Speaker 2: of this you stack these things up? How much more

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I saw Megan Kelly Clay was at was at what

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Speaker 2: out and having people go to campuses to continue Charlie's work,

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Speaker 2: and some kid did the whole. The violence comes from

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Speaker 2: the right. The violence comes from the right. People are delusional.

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Speaker 2: They're being fed lies by the Democrat media and by

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Speaker 4: agree to charge his here being evil. Absolutely, it's very political,

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Speaker 4: but I wanted everyone to hear what a sanctimonious comebag

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Speaker 4: Comy is. He's called him sancta comy Clay back in

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Speaker 4: the day. He's a bad dude. He's always been a

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Speaker 4: bad dude. He's slithered from one administration to another within

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Speaker 4: the bureaucracy and somehow always ended up, you know, elevating himself.

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Speaker 4: And he's the guy who, over the objects of fellow prosecutors,

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Speaker 4: wanted Martha Stewart to go to prison just because he.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to make a name for himself. Martha Stewart worth

447
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Speaker 2: reminding everybody served time in prison. Okay, the lady who

448
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Speaker 2: was like, you know, here's how to make the most

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Speaker 2: delicious summer salad. And you know, you all know Martha

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Speaker 2: Stewart went to prison because she got jammed up with

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Speaker 2: an investigation of her talking to her broker. And they

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Speaker 2: say that she lied about the conversation with the broker.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even illegal, it wasn't inside her trading.

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Speaker 1: Did she only.

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Speaker 4: Make like two hundred K. I mean, I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to minimize. I think it was like Clay. I think

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Speaker 4: it was like thirty or forty K the trade. I

458
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Speaker 4: think it was a small trade. It was small.

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Speaker 2: It was she's a billionaire and a billion back, and

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Speaker 2: there were far fewer of them. She's a billionaire, there's

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Speaker 2: like thirty or forty grand and Cally was on a

462
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Speaker 2: quest send her and everybody was like, this guy's kind

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Speaker 2: of a weirdo, like this has come out. Rgiliana told

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Speaker 2: me this personally at the time. He was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when Comy was going after Martha Stewart, we were all like,

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Speaker 2: what is this guy doing? But I want to I

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Speaker 2: wanted to point out what he did to General Flynn.

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who served in the military for

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Speaker 2: thirty years, was di IA director and was going to

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Speaker 2: be the National Security Advisor, and Comy just wanted to

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Speaker 2: take him out. Comy set a the FBI director set

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Speaker 2: a perjury trap for the incoming National Security Advisor based

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Speaker 2: on a non crime. Let me tell you, if someone

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Speaker 2: starts interrogating you and you don't think you're being interrogated,

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Speaker 2: and you get a.

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Speaker 4: Lawyer, get a lawyer, Get a lawyer, Get a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: That's really yeah quick.

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Speaker 4: That was that was so diabolical was that they didn't

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Speaker 4: even he didn't even really realize.

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Speaker 1: What was going on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this would be like imagine two FBI guys

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Speaker 2: were talking about a case and one of them is like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I think you lied to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring charges against you.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait, we're on the same team. What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? That was that was what this was like.

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Speaker 2: This was we're the executive branch FBI employees coming to

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Speaker 2: talk to National Security Advisor in the White House for

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Speaker 2: the explicit purpose, the clear purpose of taking Comy thought

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Speaker 2: it was funny. Comy thought it was you hear He's

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Speaker 2: all they're all laughing.

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Speaker 1: It's so great. They took out General Finn.

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Speaker 2: Took out General Finn for what speaking to his COUNTERPARTI

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Speaker 2: or in a sense, the ambassador of Russia, saying, look,

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Speaker 2: we're coming in. You know, let's talk this out. We

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Speaker 2: come in.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do anything illegal.

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Speaker 2: The Logan Act, Clay, the Logan Act has been not

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Speaker 2: successfully prosecuted to completion once in two hundred years. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's what he pulls out. And that's because the

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Speaker 2: logan A can apply to basically anything. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Taiwan tomorrow. I'm running my own foreign policy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is absurd, right, but if I am, then thousands,

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Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people in DC are. So it's

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Speaker 2: I wanted to everyone be reminded that Comy's a bad guy,

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Speaker 2: and Trump isn't exaggerating what he says. This is a

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Speaker 2: bad individual who is a narcissistic freak and wanted to

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Speaker 2: really harm people and abuses power to do so. And

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Speaker 2: so if he lied under oath, he loves sending other

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Speaker 2: people to prison, lying under oath about the most minute things.

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Speaker 2: If he lied under oath, his ash should go to

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Speaker 2: jail too, full stop.

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Speaker 4: And those charges need to come soon or else you're

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Speaker 4: get into some of this. We'll take some of your talkbacks. Buck,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're joined now by

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Speaker 2: doctor Oz, doctor memant oz Or as the Administrator for

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior and President Trump. Doctor Oz, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Is always good to talk.

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Speaker 6: To you, good talkers always. It's been an active week.

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Speaker 6: I justpect you'll want to speak a bit about of

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Speaker 6: autism and what might work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about autism and the pil and all

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Speaker 2: situation here, Doc, what is actually what do we know?

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Speaker 2: What is being recommended? What is actually going on? And

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Speaker 2: let's just stay as tight to the facts as we

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Speaker 2: can on this one, because there's a lot of passion

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Speaker 2: around this topic.

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Speaker 6: There is Let's take a step back for one second

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Speaker 6: and just make it really clear. There is no political

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Speaker 6: benefit to President trumb talking about this. This is a

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Speaker 6: wholescale departure from what historically has happened with data within government,

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Speaker 6: which is we perhaps the opake process. You don't really

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Speaker 6: know what we know. Eventually we figured it all out

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Speaker 6: and tell you the best we can. We saw that

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Speaker 6: that in covid at backfires when moms think that they're gaslighting,

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Speaker 6: they're being gas lit because they're not getting access to data.

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Speaker 6: So the President charged all of US sector candy beating

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Speaker 6: the process. We're just breaking all the silos, breaking the barriers.

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Speaker 6: Just do the work and release the information when you

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Speaker 6: have it. This is the first example, there we mutual ones.

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Speaker 6: So let's go over the data. Fifty million dollars is

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Speaker 6: put into a process to try to research autism, say

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Speaker 6: about a short at the NIH has been allocating that

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Speaker 6: money in grants along the way studying what's going on

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Speaker 6: with autism, and discovered two signals, two leads that were

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Speaker 6: intriguing enough that after a lot of discussion, we were

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Speaker 6: decided to share with the American people. The first had

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Speaker 6: to do with a prescription medication called lucuvorn, which no

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Speaker 6: one's ever heard of, But prescription lucuvorn is essentially a

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Speaker 6: way of getting B vitamins into the brains of children.

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Speaker 6: Why is that a problem? We believe that there's a

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Speaker 6: fair amount of pathology around B vitamins in the brains

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Speaker 6: of kids who have autism. That's one of the reasons

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Speaker 6: their brain get cloudy, foggy, they can't really process information,

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Speaker 6: they don't learn to speak right. And so if we

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Speaker 6: can reverse that problem, which is caused by their genes

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Speaker 6: in some cases that we know of, and by antibodies

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Speaker 6: blocking those receptors those pathways into the brain, and others,

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Speaker 6: that would make a difference. It turn up with a

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Speaker 6: couple of hundred kids in different small studies that about

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Speaker 6: half the kids seem to benefit when given this medication. Correctly,

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Speaker 6: it's not perfect. We don't know enough about it to

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Speaker 6: make broader promises. But I asked the key question, claim

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Speaker 6: but both you just tell me that if you just

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Speaker 6: resonates with you. I asked the question everyone should ask

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Speaker 6: their doctor, would you do it for your kid? And

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Speaker 6: the answer I got over and over again was yes,

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Speaker 6: we don't go for sure, but because it's so safe

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Speaker 6: and the drug's been around forever, we think it will

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Speaker 6: be worth it, so we release that information. At the

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Speaker 6: same time, there was a data that's been around for

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Speaker 6: a couple of years, but more and more of it

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Speaker 6: coming out about potential concerns around a set of menifit,

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Speaker 6: which is the raw material in talid ale. Now, I

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Speaker 6: want to say this as crisply and clearly, sticking to

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Speaker 6: the facts as you asked me to. If you have

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Speaker 6: a high fever, if you've got a bad problem, please

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Speaker 6: talk to your docts. If you're pregnant, make sure that

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Speaker 6: they're involved, and take the centimnifen, which is pretty much

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Speaker 6: the only drug we would use in that setting, and

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Speaker 6: it's the drug that most doctors use myself included in

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Speaker 6: that setting because all the other drugs seem to have

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Speaker 6: bigger problems, and having high fevers itself causes a problem.

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Speaker 6: So this is not a warning never to take the drug. However,

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Speaker 6: in cases where there was a lot of use of

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Speaker 6: this drug, that does seem to be a signal concerning

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Speaker 6: enough that we were sharing it that women subsequently have

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Speaker 6: babies to develop autism. So the message really is, if

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Speaker 6: you have a low grade temperature, if you stub your toe,

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Speaker 6: don't use the medication. Willy nilly, use it thoughtfully, recognizing

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Speaker 6: that any medication is strong enough to help you is

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Speaker 6: strong enough to hurt you.

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Speaker 1: Doctor.

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Speaker 4: As you have kids, Buck has a baby, I've got three.

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Speaker 4: I want to run through a couple of things because

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Speaker 4: I know we got a lot of moms and with

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Speaker 4: a lot of grandmas out there, and everybody when they

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Speaker 4: get pregnant, by and large, is trying to do the

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Speaker 4: best possible things they can for the baby that they

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Speaker 4: are carrying. And there's a couple of things out there

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Speaker 4: that I was going to point out, and how complicated

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Speaker 4: and sometimes even to the detriment that all of these

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Speaker 4: strictures can be. In America, they say women should need

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Speaker 4: sushi pregnant women, they say that women should not have

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Speaker 4: alcohol at all, as I'm sure you're aware. In Japan,

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Speaker 4: women continue to eat sushi throughout pregnancy, most no issues.

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Speaker 4: In France, women continue to drink glasses of wine. I

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Speaker 4: mean they're not pounding bottles of wine and getting super drunk.

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Speaker 4: By and large, kids aren't having issues there. Circling back,

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Speaker 4: I read in the New York Times today you may

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Speaker 4: have more accurate data than this that now I believe

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Speaker 4: it's one in every thirty one kids is being classified

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Speaker 4: as autistic. Those numbers are have skyrocketed. Something is going

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Speaker 4: on right. Either we're identifying autism way more, and maybe

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Speaker 4: that's partly it. Maybe we are, Maybe there are multiple

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Speaker 4: different factors out there. You're a doctor, though, and I'd

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Speaker 4: just like to go baseline, what would you tell a

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Speaker 4: woman who just found out she's pregnant right now that

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Speaker 4: is concerned about autism that she should do, in your opinion,

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Speaker 4: to be the absolute healthiest. And obviously one answer is

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Speaker 4: she can talk to her doctor. But if this were

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Speaker 4: your if this were your daughter and you were about

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Speaker 4: to have a grand baby, what would you tell her.

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Speaker 6: The most important thing you can do and when you're

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Speaker 6: pregnant is actually to be calm and realistic about the numbers.

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Speaker 6: You will almost certainly do well. Mortality rates obviously are

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Speaker 6: very low because we're so good generally at taking care

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Speaker 6: of crises or complications when they occur, and anxiety itself

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Speaker 6: is a problem doing pregnancy. So recognize that you're in

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Speaker 6: pretty good shape and you're lucky to be born in

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Speaker 6: an era where we have high quality care. That stated,

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Speaker 6: there are some unforced errors, rookie errors. You want to

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Speaker 6: avoid Trusting that there's one product that's so safe that

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Speaker 6: you can take it whenever you think you might have

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Speaker 6: a small little thing not right, is unwise. We just

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Speaker 6: don't know. There's so many things happening during pregnancy. With

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Speaker 6: that miraculous process where these cells are growing at a

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Speaker 6: fast rate, differentiating into organs, everything's got to work. It's

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Speaker 6: sort of a miracle that it ever works. But it

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Speaker 6: almost always does work because we get out of the way.

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Speaker 6: If I say the same thing to my kids, is

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Speaker 6: when it could, I've got five grandkids now when we're

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Speaker 6: coming say just get out of the way of biology

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Speaker 6: and let it run itself. A low grade temperature is

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Speaker 6: a healthy thing, usually because it'll kill the virus that's

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Speaker 6: bothering you, but it doesn't hurt your own cells. Don't

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Speaker 6: trust external substances of any kind. I don't think alcohol

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Speaker 6: is a good thing to do when you're pregnant, and

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Speaker 6: you shouldn't have to drink alcohol to be able to

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Speaker 6: get through your day. So, yes, you know, if you're

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Speaker 6: going to toast someone, that's different, but it should not

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Speaker 6: be part of the norm. If it's a cleaner you eat,

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Speaker 6: the better. Do not trust the environment to be clean.

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Speaker 6: Go out of your way. Air, purrefires, water purefires are

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Speaker 6: wise moves. It's the time for you to be so

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Speaker 6: careful because you're the canary in the coal mine. Anything

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Speaker 6: that's not right in the world around us would have

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Speaker 6: an increased detrimental effect on you and your fetus. And

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Speaker 6: then they take one step back up because you mentioned

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Speaker 6: this stat one in thirty one kids that'll have autism,

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Speaker 6: just to put us in perspective, that is five times

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Speaker 6: more than it was in twenty twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 6: five times more. So. It's not genetics. And I don't

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Speaker 6: buy the canard that this is all about measurement. Because

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Speaker 6: I just turned sixty five, I'm running the agency that

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Speaker 6: I'm a member of now, medicare right. There aren't any

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Speaker 6: people my age that I know of who have autism.

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Speaker 6: Bobby Kennedy, secretary of Kennedy is Found, you know, reminds

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Speaker 6: all of us that he and his whole life never

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Speaker 6: met anyone his age who has autism. I'm sure they're

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Speaker 6: out there, but they're not very common. Whereas you go

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Speaker 6: to school today, if you think of kids to school,

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Speaker 6: you talk to the other parents, many of those parents

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Speaker 6: have kids with autistic children. It changes their life. So

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Speaker 6: the President's passionate about this comes from a realization this

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Speaker 6: is not genetic, this is not measurement. There is a

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Speaker 6: change in our environment. He is on daunted. He will

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Speaker 6: find it and pursue it. And these are two clues

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Speaker 6: of how to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Oz, I wanted to follow up on this is

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Speaker 2: it you're and now I'm asking more for your analysis

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Speaker 2: and maybe even a bit of your your gut instinct

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Speaker 2: on this. Having practiced medicine for decades and now having

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Speaker 2: access to, uh, you know, the data on these things

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Speaker 2: at a very high level. On the policy side, when

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Speaker 2: you're talking about that we just established that that really

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Speaker 2: deeply troubling rise of autism. Do you think it is

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Speaker 2: most likely to be a multi factor problem that has

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Speaker 2: caused the increase, as in several things you know together,

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Speaker 2: or just several things in general, or do you think

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Speaker 2: that it might be a really one primary culprit that

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Speaker 2: will be found. It's just a question of whittling down

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Speaker 2: the data and pursuing the science and finally getting us

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Speaker 2: to what's really at the heart of this of this crisis.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's a multi factor, but they may work

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Speaker 6: through common mechanisms. For example, I brought up the reality

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Speaker 6: that Folli eight levels are low in the brain full

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Speaker 6: It comes from foliage leafy greens, So this vitamin benign

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Speaker 6: is a critical element in brain development. It's possible that

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Speaker 6: several of the things we're worried about all work to

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Speaker 6: inhibit the ability of the tragule child's brain to take

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Speaker 6: up enough of this critical ingredient so their brain forms normally.

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Speaker 6: It could happen because antibodies are made because the kid's

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Speaker 6: allergic to everything from a food that they're being given,

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Speaker 6: to the substance in their body, to a toxin in

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Speaker 6: their environment. You know, mold and chemicals, all kinds of things.

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Speaker 6: We don't know how they work in the body, but

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Speaker 6: they probably work through several common pathways. What I do

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Speaker 6: have confidence in since I've been looking at this together

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Speaker 6: with the rest of the team and Jabadasharia, Marty McCarey,

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Speaker 6: who head of the ANIAH FDA, we're all laser focused

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Speaker 6: on this, in part because the Secretary insists it and

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Speaker 6: the President demands it. We are seeing signals of lots

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Speaker 6: things we didn't want to talk about all of them,

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Speaker 6: but we're seeing things that all could be concerning. We

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Speaker 6: just want to turn to whittle it down and get

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Speaker 6: to the ones that are legitimate, the things we might

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Speaker 6: be able to do differently in our lives. But certainly

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Speaker 6: you want to start being transparent with the American people

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Speaker 6: because trust is built brick by brick, by a shining

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Speaker 6: light and all the things you know. If I know

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Speaker 6: things you don't know, there's no reason why you would

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Speaker 6: trust me to do more and better with it then

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Speaker 6: you would. And this is why I think parents in particular,

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Speaker 6: who love their kids more than anybody, should be armed

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Speaker 6: with the best data the government has as we get it.

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Speaker 6: And of course yes, it scares people. That alarms people.

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Speaker 6: They don't not even want to hear it. Word frees Ideologically,

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Speaker 6: I get all that stuff, but if you mix politics

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Speaker 6: in medicine, do you know what you get? Politics? You

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Speaker 6: kill medicine. And so the last thing we want to

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Speaker 6: do is hold back because there's a political rationale, which is, again,

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Speaker 6: if you're a political person who's passionate about people, you

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Speaker 6: tell them what you know. That's what a doctor does.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Oz. You just said on something.

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Speaker 4: This will be a last one question because I know

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Speaker 4: you're busy and we've got to hit a break. But

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Speaker 4: the autism rates have skyrocketed. You talked about how they've skyrocketed,

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Speaker 4: not just historically but in the twenty first century in particular.

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Speaker 4: It's also happened with allergies. I know there are a

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Speaker 4: lot of parents out there. You mentioned, Doctor Oz, that

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Speaker 4: you rarely see and Bobby Kennedy has rarely seen people

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Speaker 4: your age who have autism allergies. When I was a

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Speaker 4: kid growing up, nobody was allergic to peanuts. It didn't

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Speaker 4: feel like now the peanut allergy is so commonplace that

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Speaker 4: they don't even give out peanuts on airplanes. Anymore, they've

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Speaker 4: had to stop doing that. Is it possible that we're

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Speaker 4: seeing some connection in the environment that is impacting things

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Speaker 4: on a variety of different levels. Do you think there

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Speaker 4: might be any connection between autism and allergies and just

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Speaker 4: the way that the body chemistry is changing? And Buck

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Speaker 4: and I have talked about this. This is a big

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Speaker 4: question too. Is it partly maybe connected also to the

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Speaker 4: idea of older parents? Right, dads and moms frankly are

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Speaker 4: having babies way later in the twenty first century than

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Speaker 4: they did for basically the entirety of human existence.

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Speaker 6: Clay such an excellent question. All the things you identify

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Speaker 6: because you're a curious person. And by the way, to me,

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Speaker 6: the MAHA movement is not being curious and eighty percent

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Speaker 6: of statements are questions in disguise. You're actually a curious

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Speaker 6: human being. The questions you're asking are the ones that

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Speaker 6: we have got to be brave enough to answer and

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Speaker 6: share for courageous with people around us. But you got

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Speaker 6: to be kind. So you mentioned age of the parent. Yes,

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Speaker 6: that's a risk factor. We've known that, but it's hard

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Speaker 6: to hear that if you're a parent. But yet again,

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Speaker 6: you got to be transparent. Doctors tell patients things they

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Speaker 6: don't always want to hear, but these will respect us

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Speaker 6: for telling you the truth. The allergy issue, I think

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Speaker 6: is a bigger problem. There's a reason why so many

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Speaker 6: kids are allergic. You're right, PENI analogies unheard of when

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Speaker 6: I was a kid. You know, we have an epidemic

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Speaker 6: of all types of allergies, which again is reflective of

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Speaker 6: the fact that we're traumatizing the fragile immune system of

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Speaker 6: the child who's just trying to figure out what the

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Speaker 6: world world is about, and the differentiate what's friendly and

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Speaker 6: what's fue Their immune system is confused. I suspect they

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Speaker 6: are chemicals that they're getting exposed to that are causing this.

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Speaker 6: We are actively at course searching. There's many allegations. You

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Speaker 6: don't know. The answer is easy to blame folks. We

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Speaker 6: don't have the luxury of vickery. When you're increasing by

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Speaker 6: five fold the incidents of a tragic condition that could

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Speaker 6: be Obviously, these kids are levable, should be loved, will

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Speaker 6: be taking care of it. As a society, we're judged

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Speaker 6: by how we take care of our most vulnerable, So

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Speaker 6: we'll always take care of kids on the author's in

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Speaker 6: the spectrum. But it's a heck of a lot easier

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Speaker 6: not to have to fight that battle when you're going

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Speaker 6: through a life and these kids deserve better. We have

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Speaker 6: got to deliver. And looking at the cause of allergy,

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Speaker 6: I think is one of the biggest clues, because they're

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Speaker 6: the tip of the iceberg. You figure that out, that's

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Speaker 6: the leading edge. Behind that are a whole bunch of

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Speaker 6: other conditions, ciliac disease, vowel problems of course, you know

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Speaker 6: all kinds of pathologies like to the spectrum ADHD. If

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Speaker 6: you can go down the laundry list of issues that

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Speaker 6: plague our youth, and many of them come back to

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Speaker 6: an immune system that can't function correctly. It's a tragile system.

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Speaker 6: It's being maligned. We've got to figure out what's doing it.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Oz. We appreciate the time. Thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for joining us. Always happy to have you on. Just

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Speaker 4: let us know when you think it makes sense, and

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Speaker 4: good work and good luck trying to figure all this out.

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Speaker 6: God bless you both. Take care.

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Speaker 4: That's doctor Oz, much less serious, although Buck I do

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Speaker 4: think and we'll talk about this some more during the

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Speaker 4: course of the program. This is something that motivates a

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Speaker 4: huge majority. I think of our listeners out there, there's

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Speaker 4: a sense that we are making choices not only on

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Speaker 4: our own self, but on behalf of our kids that

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Speaker 4: are actually creating worse outcomes. And I think that allergy

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Speaker 4: and autistic thing, whatever you think, obviously, they have skyrocketed,

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Speaker 4: and we'll talk about some of that. Why is that happening.

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Speaker 4: In the meantime, I want to tell you about our

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Speaker 4: friends that are over in Israel, that are fighting so

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Speaker 4: many difficult battles every single day. It's been another very

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Speaker 4: trying week in Israel, renewed drone attacks on innocent civilians.

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Speaker 4: The attacks don't get the headlines they once did, but

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Speaker 4: a lot's happened since October seventh. Hostage is still being held,

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Speaker 4: and we've got a movement of support for the people

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Speaker 4: of Israel coming. It's called Flags of Fellowship. It's organized

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Speaker 4: by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. On Sunday,

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Speaker 2: thanks for making the time. Let's start with some of

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Speaker 2: these numbers. I'm seeing some interesting stuff out of New Jersey. Now,

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Speaker 2: you're a Northeast guy like me. The idea of Republicans

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Speaker 2: even being competitive in New Jersey seems like it's too

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Speaker 2: good to be true. What are the numbers telling us

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Speaker 2: about this? And Clay's one of his favorite candidates is Chitterrelli,

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Speaker 2: So how's this all looking.

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Speaker 4: I've got us on FCC watch because I can't pronounce

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Speaker 4: his name correctly, Ryan, so just be be Awawyre.

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Speaker 9: So let's go over some background information again with Democrats.

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Speaker 9: Start off with an eight hundred and sixty thousand voter

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Speaker 9: at advantage in the Garden State. Now you may say, Ryan,

896
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Speaker 9: that's a lot of voters, Yes, but it is down

897
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Speaker 9: significantly from November twenty twenty one, the last time Jack

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Speaker 9: Chitarelli ran for governor. Republicans in the last four years

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Speaker 9: since the last governor's election have gained one hundred and

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Speaker 9: sixty two thousand new voters, while Democrats have lost forty

901
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Speaker 9: seven thousand voters in an election that Chitarelli lost by

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Speaker 9: only eighty four thousand votes. If you look at the

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Speaker 9: polls first. Out of the polls, there were seven polls recently. Overall,

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Speaker 9: Mickey Cheryl, the Democratic nominee, has led in five of them,

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Speaker 9: averaging a lead of five point five points. But the

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Speaker 9: last two polls by credited polsters that have come out

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Speaker 9: said that Chitarelly is either tied or winning. A national

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Speaker 9: research poll which was funded by his campaign, so it's

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Speaker 9: an internal campaign member has him leading by a point

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Speaker 9: and is up by twenty one points normally internal polling. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: they slammed things towards their candidate. But Emerson, which has

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Speaker 9: been on a roller coaster streak of good polling it lately,

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Speaker 9: they came out with a poll just today finding the

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Speaker 9: race tied, and they said that Chittarelli is leading by

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Speaker 9: twenty six points among independents. So there's consistency there. It's

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Speaker 9: not all good news because the group of undecided voters

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Speaker 9: overwhelmingly lean Democrat, a lot of minorities, a lot of women.

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Speaker 9: The problem for Mickey Cheryl is this minority voters in

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Speaker 9: urban New Jersey do not like her. They voted overwhelmingly

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Speaker 9: against her in the last oh and in the primary.

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Speaker 9: She comes from a small town where the median income

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Speaker 9: is well over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 9: and she had a disastrous interview on The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 9: where she couldn't describe how she made seven million dollars

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Speaker 9: in profit selling stocks, which she was fined for because

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Speaker 9: she was selling well. She was on on the house

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Speaker 9: appropriations for the military contracts. That has been a huge,

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Speaker 9: huge problem. Democrats are freaked out. They've spent an additional

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Speaker 9: one point five million dollars on this race, twenty five

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Speaker 9: million in total. Internals are showing that she is not

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Speaker 9: in a strong place, and that's where they're putting all

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Speaker 9: their hands on deck.

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Speaker 4: Okay, how do we so a couple of things, Ryan,

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Speaker 4: And I know some of you from New Jersey are

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Speaker 4: going to know this, but I actually think it got

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Speaker 4: snowed under. Trump lost New Jersey by about five points.

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Speaker 4: He lost Virginia by about five points. That's where both

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Speaker 4: of the governor's races that are going to be happening

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Speaker 4: in about six weeks are taking place.

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Speaker 1: Ryan.

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Speaker 4: The Trump team believes that if they had had Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris money, that is, they could have just sprayed money

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Speaker 4: everywhere like Kamala did, that they could have won in Virginia,

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Speaker 4: they could have won in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Do you buy it?

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Speaker 4: And do we know if the current candidates in New

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Speaker 4: Jersey and Virginia are they competitive enough with dollars to

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Speaker 4: spend coming down the stretch run Here as a lot

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Speaker 4: of people that are not political obsessives become aware these governors'

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Speaker 4: races are going.

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Speaker 9: On, well it's great you mentioned Trump. So there's an

952
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Speaker 9: inverse problem happening between New Jersey and Virginia. In Virginia

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Speaker 9: win some seeries. The Republican No is trying to nationalize

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Speaker 9: this election. She is making this specifically about trans girls

955
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Speaker 9: playing biological female sports. It is her number one issue.

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Speaker 9: She is talking about it consistently and is what her

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Speaker 9: ads are focusing on. Inversely, in New Jersey, the Democrat

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Speaker 9: Mickey Cheryl is making this entire election about Trump. Just today,

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Speaker 9: there was a newsbreaking story a little while ago that

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Speaker 9: she was not allowed to walk in the US Naval

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Speaker 9: Academy commencement speech because she cheated one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 9: times in her class. That was sorry, in place of

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Speaker 9: one hundred and thirty people, she cheated and she could

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Speaker 9: not walk in her graduation.

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Speaker 4: Although let me let me rephrase that Ryan, because I

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Speaker 4: think it was a little bit. I think she was

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Speaker 4: part of a group of one hundred and thirty people

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Speaker 4: that was accused of cheating on tests that were not

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Speaker 4: allowed to walk. Not she cheated one hundred and thirty times.

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Speaker 4: I think the Naval Academy would probably say, hey, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what the number is, but I think you

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Speaker 4: get kicked out.

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Speaker 9: For my apologizes.

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Speaker 6: Go up. Yes, that is true.

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Speaker 9: She was with one hundred and thirty people, so she

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Speaker 9: had made this election about Trump. She blamed Chittarelli for

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Speaker 9: this story coming out, saying he's part of the Trump

978
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Speaker 9: cabal to release information. Jack Chiarelli has focused specifically on

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Speaker 9: affordability and electricity costes. Electricity costes are the number one

980
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Speaker 9: issue in both Virginia and New Jersey's election. Incidentally, enough

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Speaker 9: electricity costs for skyrocking in both places. The difference between

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Speaker 9: New Jersey and Virginia is the elasticity of the electric

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Speaker 9: So Virginia's electric because it is much blacker and black

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Speaker 9: in America, has a lower level of They move far, far,

985
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Speaker 9: far less than Hispanics or whites do. It is a

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Speaker 9: less there's less less city for the Republicans to make big,

987
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Speaker 9: big games the questions do they show up at all?

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Speaker 9: There's also a lot of uh, you know, quote unquote awfuls,

989
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Speaker 9: which is like angry white female liberals. There's a lot

990
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Speaker 9: more in Virginia, and there's a lot of people angry

991
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Speaker 9: over the elon cuts to federal jobs. New Jersey doesn't

992
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 9: have that problem, and Chittarelli has been more centralized on

993
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Speaker 9: the affordability question and on the tax question. Share had

994
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Speaker 9: an absolutely abominable debate performance where where she would not

995
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Speaker 9: commit to not raising taxes in the middle class and

996
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Speaker 9: she would not explain once again how she made seven

997
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Speaker 9: million dollars on a stock trade. Both of those clips

998
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Speaker 9: went viral. It's been very, very bad. Everything that is

999
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Speaker 9: breaking in someone's favor is Chitdarelly Childarelly's campaign in the

1000
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Speaker 9: last forty five days have reminded me more of Glenn

1001
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Speaker 9: Youngkins than when some series, when some series is really

1002
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Speaker 9: just trying to get the Trump face out, and she's

1003
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Speaker 9: had a mixed record on the having that ability.

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Speaker 2: Can you break down for a little bit, Ryan, I

1005
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Speaker 2: thought that was really interesting, and I'd seen some headlines

1006
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Speaker 2: around this, the skyrocketing electricity price, as that's generally not

1007
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Speaker 2: something you think of as a top election issue at

1008
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Speaker 2: the state level, but that that is in two different states,

1009
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Speaker 2: in these two critical governors' races. I think it's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Part of it, as I understand it, is data center

1011
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Speaker 2: usage and essentially places getting ready for AI or wanting

1012
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Speaker 2: to be more part of the AI race, and also

1013
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Speaker 2: to store all this data online. Part of it is

1014
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Speaker 2: natural gas prices, So there's a few things coming into it.

1015
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Speaker 2: But how are the various campaigns handling this? Because I

1016
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Speaker 2: always think it's so funny the Democrats their only idea

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Speaker 2: for how to make electricity prices less expensive involve finding

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Speaker 2: more expensive forms of electricity like solar. I mean, I

1019
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Speaker 2: don't know what they think they're going to do. So

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Speaker 2: how's that playing out?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 9: So it is the number one issue in both New

1023
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Speaker 9: Jersey and Virginia, and AI center sor data centers are

1024
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Speaker 9: the main culture. Data centers take about twenty five percent

1025
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Speaker 9: of Virginia's electricity one and four, they've added about twenty

1026
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Speaker 9: million homes using power through data centers. In New Jersey's

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Speaker 9: data centers are responsible for seventy percent of the increased

1028
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Speaker 9: prices and electricity. Jack Turiuelli is talking about having tax

1029
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Speaker 9: cuts for the middle class and about trying to have

1030
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Speaker 9: more alternative alternative in a form of solar, but really

1031
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Speaker 9: looking at increasing natural gas subsidies or anything. He can

1032
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Speaker 9: just sit there and try to get prices lower through

1033
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Speaker 9: using taxes in the state. Abigail Spamberger over in Virginia,

1034
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Speaker 9: she's actually the only candidate running statewide who has pointed

1035
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Speaker 9: to data centers and saying we need to figure out

1036
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Speaker 9: how to deal with this increase in the cost of

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Speaker 9: electricity through data centers, And she's the one who's pointed

1038
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Speaker 9: the finger when since Here's really hasn't spoken about data

1039
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Speaker 9: centers or electricity prices nearly as much, focusing much more

1040
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Speaker 9: on national issues to try to really drive out lower

1041
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Speaker 9: propensity voters. And I have a number on that Virginia

1042
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Speaker 9: does not have the does not have party registration like

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Speaker 9: New Jersey does, so you're not a registered Republican rigiodemocrat.

1044
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Speaker 9: But among modeling companies, companies that model whether you're likely

1045
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Speaker 9: to be a Republican or a Democrat, Republicans have done

1046
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Speaker 9: a much better job at turning out people who have

1047
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Speaker 9: either never voted and are likely Republicans are only voted

1048
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Speaker 9: once in the last four elections than Democrats have. So

1049
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Speaker 9: if that's her game plan, by bringing out lower pencity voters,

1050
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Speaker 9: it's showing a little bit of traction. But Democrats outside

1051
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Speaker 9: of Richmond and in the northern part of the state

1052
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Speaker 9: and the outside of DC are really turn out a gangbusters,

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Speaker 9: especially in the Richmond suburbs.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to the New York City mayor's race, because

1055
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Speaker 4: a lot of our wor listeners are plugged in on

1056
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Speaker 4: this Ryan, we still haven't gotten any movement from from

1057
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Speaker 4: anyone to drop out, whether it's Eric Adams, Curtis Ly

1058
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Speaker 4: Andrew Cuomo. And as I'm looking right now at Polymarket,

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Speaker 4: they have an eighty seven percent chance that Mom Donnie

1060
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Speaker 4: is elected mayor. Is there any reason right now in

1061
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: your mind to expect any kind of movement there or

1062
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Speaker 4: if you kind of resign yourself to Mom Donnie is

1063
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Speaker 4: going to be the next New York City mayor.

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Speaker 9: Man Donne's been the next city mayor unless Eric Adams

1065
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Speaker 9: and Curtis Lee would drop out. I mean, and we've

1066
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Speaker 9: had more polling out of New York City than either

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Speaker 9: Virginia or New Jersey at this point. Polsters love pulling

1068
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Speaker 9: New York. It's an interesting race. The problem is in

1069
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Speaker 9: this fractured field, it needs to be a head on

1070
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Speaker 9: head competition, and all Polsters agree a head to head

1071
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Speaker 9: competition between Cuomo and Mandami shows a competitive race, and

1072
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Speaker 9: we don't know who would win. But Cuomo has run

1073
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Speaker 9: one of the most god awful campaigns I could imagine.

1074
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Speaker 9: He's made no concessions to Republicans to try to win

1075
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Speaker 9: them over. Whatsoever. And Eric Adams is still hanging around

1076
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Speaker 9: ARO at seven or eight percent, mostly among Jewish and

1077
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Speaker 9: Black voters who would otherwise be voting for Cuomo. So

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Speaker 9: it's really been some of the worst campaigning I've ever seen,

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Speaker 9: especially from Cuomo, and Curzey was had essentially no campaign

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Speaker 9: aside from going the same five places over and over

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Speaker 9: and over again. He's pulling somewhere in the load to

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Speaker 9: mid teams and it's really kind of fizzled out.

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Speaker 1: So, okay, do you buy Buck?

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Speaker 4: And I have kind of debated this that mom Donnie

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Speaker 4: could have an impact in the twenty twenty six mid

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Speaker 4: terms if he is the face of the Democrat party

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Speaker 4: or do you think he's really not that well known

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Speaker 4: outside of New York City? What is his impact? Let's

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Speaker 4: say he wins. Obviously he's not a citizen, i mean

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Speaker 4: born American citizen, so he's not eligible to run for instance,

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Speaker 4: for president, thankfully, sadly, given how much support he has

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Speaker 4: among Democrats, does he have national residents next year? In

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Speaker 4: your mind if he wins in New York City or not?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, I mean there's the reason why Fox News

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Speaker 9: is the only who covers his speech is live and

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Speaker 9: they don't do it for any New York City politician,

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Speaker 9: and they want to. Republicans definitely want to make him

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Speaker 9: the face, which is why Kim Jeffries still won't endorse him,

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Speaker 9: despite Kathy Hochele endorsing him. And it'll be a big

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Speaker 9: question going to twenty twenty six if they sit there

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Speaker 9: and try to play spoiler.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 9: Donnie made a comment saying, I'm not promising to reindorse

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Speaker 9: Kathy Hogel or any other Democrat. So they very much

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Speaker 9: want to play. And I spoke to some Democratic consultants

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Speaker 9: who are very, very smart, and the question they said,

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Speaker 9: they said this, it is not a question of if,

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Speaker 9: like an Aoc or Mandanni type of person will be

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Speaker 9: the Democratic nominee in twenty twenty eight. It's a matter

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Speaker 9: of when. It is just a matter of timing. All

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Speaker 9: the movement is on the progressive side, and they are

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Speaker 9: absolutely going to make Mundonni the face of it. And

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Speaker 9: he's you know, he's charming to some people, he's charismatic

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Speaker 9: to some people. He does have some ability political ability

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Speaker 9: that I do notice, but his policies are absolutely insane,

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Speaker 9: especially around policing, and he's going to especially in the Northeast.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be very problematic for Democrats.

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Speaker 2: So is it your view that he will be as

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Speaker 2: insane as we are worried he will be if he

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Speaker 2: becomes the mayor of New York, Like, will he actually

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Speaker 2: do these policies or is this just to get the

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Speaker 2: sizzle going? But he'll have to deal with the reality

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Speaker 2: of trying to govern eight and a half million people.

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Speaker 9: Well, he has limitations because the governor has a lot

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Speaker 9: of control over New York City, so it's not like

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Speaker 9: he's it's not like he's the president of the King

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Speaker 9: of the city. There are certain things that he can

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Speaker 9: do that I expect him to do on day one.

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Speaker 9: He also is the problem the federal government is going

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Speaker 9: to be breathing down his neck on certain issues, like

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Speaker 9: the idea that he's going to be able to kick

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Speaker 9: ice agents out of the city is just not realistic whatsoever.

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Speaker 9: On certain things. He's going to be pretty horrific on

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Speaker 9: other things. Can't fulfill half of those promises because he

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Speaker 9: doesn't have the ability or the wherewithal.

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Speaker 6: To do so.

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Speaker 9: So, I mean, I think that he's gonna be a

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Speaker 9: worst mayor than build a Blasio. But I mean that's

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Speaker 9: what that's what's happening right now in New York.

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