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Speaker 1: We call it again outside of Toto Championship Plaza. Today's

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Speaker 1: high fifty six degrees, low, fifty two degrees Snowmagetton is

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Speaker 1: quite what that is, don't need the details, but we'll

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Speaker 1: get the details about that later. But this is Nate Newton.

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Speaker 1: my seat. We have a young up and coming star wow,

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Speaker 1: breaking news that we have. We got the young Tommy Yards.

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Speaker 1: I am salt and Pepper Poppy. Together, we make hanging

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Speaker 1: with the boys the sports talking equivalent to brow people

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Speaker 1: when we speak, wingstop is and the news is here.

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Speaker 1: The weight is finally over the Cowboys. After they've casted

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Speaker 1: their wide net interview after interview after interview, they have

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Speaker 1: come to a conclusion. There are terms that are being

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Speaker 1: put in place right now for the Dallas Cowboys to

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Speaker 1: hire their next defensive coordinator. Former Philadelphia Eagles passing game

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Speaker 1: coordinator Christian Parker will be the Cowboys, barring any crazy

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Speaker 1: thing that happens, will be the Cowboys' next defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: And for that we're gonna go to Tommy Yarrish first,

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Speaker 1: so Tommy can give the fans, give us, if everyone listening,

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Speaker 1: just a kind of a background on who is Christian Parker?

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Speaker 1: What is his philosophy, his systems, you know with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys liked him and just all of who is he

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Speaker 1: a disciple of all of the things that encumbass. Who

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Speaker 1: Christian Parker is the Dallas Cowboys new defensive coordinator, Cause,

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Speaker 1: like we stop, he's here.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you, guys, I'm happy to be here here.

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Speaker 6: I can't do it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, Christian Parker thirty four years old.

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Speaker 6: He's only been in the NFL for seven years.

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Speaker 1: He's one year older than Dak.

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Speaker 6: He started back, that's true.

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Speaker 7: He started back in twenty nineteen as a defensive quality

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Speaker 7: control coach for the Packers. That evolved into him becoming

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Speaker 7: the defensive backs coach with the Broncos in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 7: That was the year they drafted Patrick Cirtan in the

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Speaker 7: first round. By year two, Patrick Shartan was an All

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Speaker 7: Pro working with Christian Parker as his defensive backs coach.

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Speaker 7: And then obviously we've seen what's happened with Patrick Shartan

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Speaker 7: since he's been one of, if not the best corners.

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Speaker 6: In the NFL.

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Speaker 7: And then he joined the Philadelphia Eagles in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 7: the year they went to the Super Bowl. He's the

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Speaker 7: passing game coordinator and defensive backs coach.

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Speaker 6: That's the role he's held for the last two years.

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Speaker 6: And same thing.

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Speaker 7: That's the year that they draft Quinnyon Mitchell and Cooper

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Speaker 7: Dejean on Day one and Day two, both of them

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Speaker 7: all pros this past year in twenty twenty five, so

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Speaker 7: of all the candidates that the Cowboys interviewed, there were

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Speaker 7: nine total and then they were rejected. For one of them,

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Speaker 7: he has I think the strongest developmental track record in

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Speaker 7: terms of within two years these young corners. Yes, they

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Speaker 7: think about with this, but they're all pro players. And

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Speaker 7: you think about the Cowboys in their current situation. Right now,

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Speaker 7: You've got savone revel that they really like, but he

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Speaker 6: And you also think about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Have two first round picks, So do you think that

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Speaker 7: Given how good this guy is with taking those early

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Speaker 7: I think they're gonna have a lot of options. But

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Speaker 7: I think that Christian Parker has got a solid resume

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Speaker 7: for himself. He had a very good interview with them

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Speaker 1: Now, all right, Nate, we were in the back talking

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Speaker 1: about when you walked in the back, I said, they

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Speaker 1: And you said what you wanted to see from Christian

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Speaker 1: What will those things that you told me?

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Speaker 4: And it's simple And a lot of people think this

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Speaker 4: that way. Will we have a full contingency of players

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Speaker 4: this guy and he's acting that because I know they

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Speaker 4: do it a lot up in Philadelphia, but this ain't Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: So where he bringing this down?

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Speaker 4: This developmental from the Broncos through the Philadelphia to hear it.

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Speaker 4: Will he be allowed to do these type things? That's

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Speaker 4: just it sounds so simp You.

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Speaker 5: Know, hey, yeah man, new system knew this, knew that.

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Speaker 4: New players, we're gonna get to know each other. But

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Speaker 5: Know this guy? And I'm axing tummy?

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Speaker 4: Is I mean you know about this guy we brought

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Speaker 4: behind closed doors and find is this guy that type

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Speaker 5: Is he? Does he? What is his demeanor? Is?

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Speaker 4: Is he an easy going guy? I know he can

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Speaker 7: Det with Yeah, I think I think he has high

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Speaker 6: Scheme is communicated.

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Speaker 7: Now he's not. He's never been a defensive coordinator. Yes,

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Speaker 7: so in terms of okay, what does he look like?

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Speaker 6: It's a defensive play caller. We don't know. We won't

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Speaker 7: But when it comes to his football all I Q

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Speaker 7: he's got high marks for how smart he is in

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Speaker 7: he gets to learn from one of the best in

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Speaker 9: So I wonder how much that played a part maybe

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And Fangio's tree has has been extensive.

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Speaker 7: There have been plenty of guys that have come from

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Speaker 7: reviews from everywhere that he's been and Denver, yes, who

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Speaker 1: Fangio and then Joseph came out.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I've heard we practice how we get it done?

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Speaker 5: Will we allowed as man?

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Speaker 4: Mister Parker thirty four year old prodigy genius up out

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Speaker 4: of nowhere. I evidently know have played Matt in all

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Speaker 5: This is real doll time now and I'm actually you

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Speaker 5: once again, miss Tommy. What is gonna happen here?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't think he's been playing Matt and he

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Speaker 7: and he helped turn these young corners. And again, yes,

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Speaker 7: they are first round picks, right, They're supposed to be

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Speaker 6: Kind of players.

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Speaker 7: But how many times have we seen corners being taken

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Speaker 7: in the first round or for whatever reason, it just

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Speaker 7: doesn't work out. Yeah, So there still is a coaching

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Speaker 6: Helps him Parker good, right, Christian Parker.

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Speaker 7: Has made these guys good players, and he has made

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Speaker 7: know who Christian Parker is. When you think about who

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think I think that's that's a good

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Speaker 1: that's a good starting point, you know. But one of the.

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Speaker 5: That is good. No, you got you got man, You

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Speaker 5: did that. You did that?

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Speaker 1: Fix man?

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Speaker 5: What did you fix out?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just messed up my whole man, you

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Speaker 1: messed up my whole entire train of thought when we

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Speaker 1: were looking at all of these candidates. You know, the

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Speaker 1: main thing because I know what Shoty said at the podium, right,

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Speaker 1: of Once he said that now all the content creators,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about teacher, teacher, teacher, teacher, teacher. And Nate

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Speaker 1: made a great point a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: he said, whooped the damn do no, duh. If you

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Speaker 1: coach at any point in time and anybody's in the league,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be able to teach, right, Like, that's what

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Speaker 1: you want?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: Does everybody do it the same?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: And for me, the biggest thing was development, because I

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Speaker 1: know that he was a passing game coordinator and a

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Speaker 1: I need to develop everything. You're now in charge of everything.

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Speaker 1: It ain't just the secondary anymore. You got linebackers you're

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Speaker 1: So my thing has always been because a part of

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Speaker 1: the development part. Is you know, yes, you know, Patrick

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Speaker 1: he come from pedigree, He was a high first round,

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Speaker 7: I think that that's going to be the interesting part

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys on this Thursday

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Speaker 1: off season edition. We have some breaking news that we

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Speaker 6: On Twitter, you ain't got you haven't followed me back yet,

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Speaker 7: relationships with his players, kind of like what Brian Schadheimer

441
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Speaker 7: island he was looking for, and he's going to get

442
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 7: a knack of what they excel at and how they learn,

443
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 7: because we all learned differently, right, you might be a

444
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 7: visual learner, you might be a written learner. Whatever it is,

445
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 7: I just couldn't learn at all, but figuring out what

446
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 7: that is look at us, I think figuring that out

447
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 7: of understanding that, especially with today's era of players where

448
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 7: there a lot of guys are younger, the game has

449
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 7: changed to the college level so much and even the

450
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Speaker 7: pro level that you know, everybody has a knack for

451
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 7: how they understand scheme and how they understand what their

452
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Speaker 7: assignment is. And the last one in terms of his

453
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Speaker 7: meetings was his meetings resemble these Socratic style classrooms he

454
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Speaker 7: enjoyed as a political science major players are frequently asked

455
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Speaker 7: to explain concepts, challenge ideas, or defend adjustments. Nobody is

456
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Speaker 7: allowed to sit quietly and coast it is.

457
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Speaker 5: I like that last part. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

458
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Speaker 6: I don't I don't know about you.

459
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Speaker 7: But when I was in school and we did Socratic

460
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 7: seminars is what they were called, Uh, it was always

461
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 7: super uncomfortable because I don't know, I just didn't like

462
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Speaker 7: speaking up.

463
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Speaker 6: But you want your.

464
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Speaker 7: Players to be uncomfortable, right, and you want them to

465
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 7: be able to speak up and defend. Okay, hey coach,

466
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Speaker 7: I don't think we should be doing this, or hey coach,

467
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 7: maybe we should be doing this. So those are again

468
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 7: you We'll see if that continues to be the case

469
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Speaker 7: here in Dallas.

470
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Speaker 6: But sounds like he's off to get Stane and see.

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Speaker 1: I like that part, and a lot of times we

472
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Speaker 1: do sometimes here in this show, we go back on

473
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Speaker 1: the experiences that we've had and the things that we've

474
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Speaker 1: been able to garner over the years. And when I

475
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Speaker 1: hear that, it immediately takes me back to being in

476
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Speaker 1: New England. And that was like a Bill Belichick also

477
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Speaker 1: philosophy where he could see you in the lunch room

478
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Speaker 1: and he'll go tell me who Jesse, tell me who

479
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Speaker 1: the backup cornerback is? Old team playing this weekend. You

480
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Speaker 1: better have an answer like you better have an answer

481
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Speaker 1: like you What did I like to run? We went

482
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Speaker 1: through it last week. We went through earlier the week

483
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Speaker 1: what did I like to run? On third down?

484
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Speaker 5: On coverage?

485
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Speaker 1: You're sitting there trying to get you a sloppy Joe sandwich.

486
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He'll catch you in the

487
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Speaker 1: hallway you're coming out of the sauna and you go

488
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Speaker 1: into it. You would never you never sat comfortably in

489
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Speaker 1: a meeting because you never knew when a question was

490
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Speaker 1: going to be thrown your way. You never knew when

491
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Speaker 1: you were going to be asked to answer a question

492
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Speaker 1: from Bill Belichick from Josh McDaniels or one of your coaches,

493
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Speaker 1: and that was kind of that rang through the buildings.

494
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Speaker 1: So it made you, even when you didn't want to study,

495
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Speaker 1: it made you go and study because you're like Boll,

496
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Speaker 1: I would hate to be that guy in that meeting tomorrow.

497
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Speaker 1: He asked me a question I don't have to answer

498
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: because that ultimately would be a deal breaker and whether

499
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Speaker 1: you played or not, because.

500
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Speaker 5: Man, I'm telling you we tested.

501
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: Man I was wasn't the best at it, but to

502
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: be uncomfortable, but for that coach to know that you've.

503
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Speaker 5: Got what he's trying to give you all week.

504
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: You know, and I never failed because I can always

505
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 4: tell you what I was, what I needed to do,

506
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Speaker 4: So you're never gonna really fail. But it's even more

507
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: if you know what the rest of the guys going. Yeah, bro,

508
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: come on, man.

509
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Speaker 5: I got this. No more on dalla speak right step

510
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Speaker 5: what we're doing.

511
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: But that is the issue that this last coach, they say,

512
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: this last coach failed on this guys getting in games,

513
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: not knowing what to do, and everything that mister Tommy

514
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: has just said points to all of that. So we

515
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 4: should not going Now you're gonna have mistakes in every game, right, So,

516
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: but we should not have these four and five and

517
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Speaker 4: six because this coach is that guy.

518
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: You know, this coach is supposed to be that guy.

519
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Speaker 1: And one thing I'm looking I'll be looking for because

520
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 1: there is a difference. It's like it's like you have

521
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: somebody who can make who can cook, right, but it's

522
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: a difference between someone being able to cook and then

523
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: someone being able to cater It's a huge difference. It's

524
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Speaker 1: a difference between me making a meal for me, Tommy, Nate,

525
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Speaker 1: and Kurt, and then now I have to go and

526
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Speaker 1: make a meal for two hundred people. You know what

527
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so when you're a dB coach, that

528
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: room is very small seven eight guys. So I have

529
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: the time, energy and effort to segment things. I could

530
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: be more detailed with certain things because my group isn't

531
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Speaker 1: as large. Again, I'm only responsible for this group, and

532
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: I can get to know this group better. It's now

533
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Speaker 1: I have to xcrapulate that to forty guys, right, if

534
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: you know forty five guys, if you want to add

535
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: the practice squads guys in there. Now, Now I have

536
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: to be able to I gotta know forty five different

537
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: learning personalities. I gotta learn forty five different personal personalities.

538
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: I gotta learn forty five different temperaments. I gotta learn

539
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: forty five different everything, right, And so that's one of

540
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: the things that I'm looking for and saying, Okay, all

541
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: this stuff now has to be and that is I

542
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Speaker 1: guess that's the gift and the curse of hiring an

543
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: up and coming a younger guy is they're learning on

544
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Speaker 1: the job too.

545
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 5: Right.

546
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Speaker 1: The gift is that they're young, they're energetic, they have

547
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: new ideas, fresh ideas. They most likely relate to your

548
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: players in the culture of those guys. And sometimes the

549
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: curse could be you don't have experience being over the

550
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Speaker 1: entire group. And the one thing that I will always say,

551
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: I've been in three different organizations. I've been with the Bengals,

552
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and the Patriots. There's nothing like the Dallas

553
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys when it comes to the coverage, when it comes

554
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: to and for and for Christian Parker, boy, you're talking

555
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: about shoes. That's not so that you have to feel

556
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: but expectations now that you have to feel. Phil coming

557
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: off one of the worst defenses in NFL history, the

558
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: worst defense in cowboy history and now they go.

559
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Speaker 5: Here.

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00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Here you go, young fella, you have to turn this

561
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: around because I don't know about y'all. That's what all

562
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: ours will be on every time that there's an every

563
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: time we are looking at what are they doing on

564
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Speaker 1: the defense.

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Speaker 4: But but a way of simplifying that, and I'm gonna

566
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Speaker 4: beat this hard man, this this horse. I'm gonna beat

567
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: this this horse. I'm gonna beat this horse. I'm gonna

568
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: beat it man.

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Speaker 8: You you, you will, You will have to, y'all. All right,

570
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 8: you will have to as a defensive coordinator have a

571
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Speaker 8: message that every position coach.

572
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 5: Can put out there, and you cannot.

573
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: Back up off of your uh, your matra, your what

574
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: you believe in, uh you. You will have to be

575
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: there and believe in what you're saying and putting these

576
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Speaker 4: things in place.

577
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: For that first year it can be Hey.

578
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: This is what Tommy think, This is what Jesse thinking,

579
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: This is what Kurt think.

580
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: No, this is what we think. And this is.

581
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Speaker 4: Coming from the coordinator. Because once you have that leakage

582
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Speaker 4: your I really know, see that's what ran z them

583
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: out of here. That's what ran zam out here. Two

584
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: minute too many voices. It's got to be one voice.

585
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: When coach shot In Haimer leaves out of us and hey,

586
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: this is y'all new defensive coordinator.

587
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: Hey, coach, break off. Talk to your group. Let them know.

588
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: Everybody got to be of one accord. Man, everybody has

589
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: to be of one accord.

590
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 9: I have a question that the talk. Now he's got

591
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 9: to go from his secondary to running the whole whole squad.

592
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 9: And maybe you explain this to me. I don't as

593
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 9: a passing game coordinator, is he had some experience? I

594
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 9: mean what I don't know for sure? How is a

595
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 9: passing game coordinator? Is he just handling certain aspects still

596
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 9: just the secondary, or is there some involvement in in

597
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 9: far as? Okay, here's how we're gonna rush, or here's

598
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Speaker 9: the linebacker.

599
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: Well with coach Johnson and I don't know how the

600
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: guys you devil, but you always had opportunity to speak.

601
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: You know, he'll he'll put his coaches on black. Hey, coach,

602
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: get a explain this, and he'll let you explain to

603
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: the whole team, not just the defense, you know, And

604
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: he'll do that on a on a Wednesday when we

605
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: get back, or he'll do it on a Monday evening. Well,

606
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: you get a chance to address the whole team, you know,

607
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: not and put in just a small midget of the

608
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: game playing so that that don't mean that you great

609
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: when you get you have to do it for hours

610
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 4: on you know, at the time, but at least they

611
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: practice it.

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00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 9: So he setting coordinators, He just kind of helping set

613
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 9: up whatever schemes and stuff that is then coverage handed

614
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 9: the coverages that are going to be handed to.

615
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: That goes against the team that you're playing. The defense.

616
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, the defensive coordinator then when we're late or see

617
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 9: the one that's out there, kind of trying to lead

618
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 9: it and say here that as a passing is our

619
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Speaker 9: passing attack. Here's what we're doing.

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Speaker 7: I think it's it's different everywhere, but for the most part,

621
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Speaker 7: it's secondary focus. Not It's not like it's not okay

622
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 7: on third down, I want these guys blitzing.

623
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's as much.

624
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 7: As that as like, okay on third down, we're going

625
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 7: to play, you know, with our heels at the line

626
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 7: the game, or we're gonna play press man.

627
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 6: More more of that side of things.

628
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Speaker 1: And it's and it's more of the breakdown. It's it's

629
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: all right. We're playing the Giants, all right. As a

630
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: passing game coordinator, I'm giving you everything that they do

631
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: in the passing game. So I'm giving you coverages, first

632
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: down coverages, second down coverages. Team I'm scouting the other team, right,

633
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: so I'm giving you. I'm breaking down you know what

634
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: what they do as far as the the their pass game,

635
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: and I'm setting our defense. I'm giving you what we

636
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: should be doing in the secondary and how we how

637
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: we cover it.

638
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 9: Then the defensive coordinator takes that.

639
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: And then put that in his game plan. Yeah yeah,

640
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: well so with the run game and all the other

641
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And that's how you formulate a plan

642
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: that goes into that week of all right, we're gonna

643
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: spend more time doing base defense or nickel. We're gonna

644
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: spend more time and dime. And then now on the

645
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: defense corner and go all right, boy, it's gonna be

646
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: a heavy dime week. Now Christian goes back and he goes,

647
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: all right, here we go secondary. These are the looks

648
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get. You're playing there, you're playing there,

649
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: d da da da. So I don't know, let's take

650
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: out let's take our last break. When we come back

651
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: from that, we'll continue this conversation of the new defensive coordinator,

652
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Christian Parker. The Cowboys have honed in on him and

653
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: we'll be hiring him as their new defensive coordinator. And

654
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: on top of that, got two first round picks. How

655
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: will the draft now look that we now have the

656
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: guy in charge, looking at some of his history, some

657
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: of the players that he's brought in, he's coached, and

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys on our Thursday

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Speaker 1: slot the offseason edition, and boy, the one thing I

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Speaker 1: love about being covering the Cowboys is always news. We

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Speaker 1: are never We're never without news and the breaking news

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Speaker 1: today if you're just joining us. The Cowboys have hired

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Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, Christian Parker, former Denver Bronco, former Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packer, and most recently, former passing game coordinator and

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Speaker 1: dbi's coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. He will now don

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Speaker 1: the Star. You know, we mean, I might do a

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Speaker 1: tweet search. Oh, mister Parker, you know him being over

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Speaker 1: there with those with those Philadelphia Egles. He might have

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Speaker 1: said something about the Cowboys back in the day we

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Speaker 1: might have put now I'm his plan, but that is

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Speaker 1: the new hire thirty four years old. His coaching styles,

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Speaker 1: his teaching styles, his ability to develop some young talent

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Speaker 1: in this league. All will be necessary. All will be

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Speaker 1: necessary for the Cowboys, as they had the worst defense

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Speaker 1: in Cowboy history this past season. Coming out, Yeah, coming

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Speaker 1: off the heels of ebra Flus being in charge, and

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Speaker 1: Tom You said something in the break You and Chris

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Speaker 1: Beam said, Hey, this guy's got the easiest job in

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Speaker 1: the world. Is only one way for this worst The

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Speaker 1: only one way for this go is up.

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Speaker 7: It literally cannot get any worse. So does that mean

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Speaker 7: he's guaranteed two years?

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Speaker 6: No, nobody ever is. But man, it would be really bad. Man,

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Speaker 6: let me tell you next year.

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Speaker 1: And so the Cowboys right now they find themselves. You

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Speaker 1: have your head coach and your office cordinator, Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 1: You now have your defensive coordinator and Christian Parker, and

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Speaker 1: you're sitting at number twelve and number twenty and this

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Speaker 1: year's NFL draft, we know the history of Parker being

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Speaker 1: the DB's coach, and that's probably going to be an

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Speaker 1: emphasis that he is banging the table for when he's

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Speaker 1: talking to Will McLay and everybody that's scouting apartment about

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Speaker 1: what he wants. But how can the Cowboys now that

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Speaker 1: they have their guys, what should their draft kind of

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Speaker 1: look like? Does this shift the order of how things go?

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Speaker 5: Nate, No, just let me get that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, go ahead, let me remember the people.

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Speaker 4: Just like any passing coordinator, the first per soon he

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Speaker 4: go talk to his offensive line, you can't put you.

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Speaker 4: You can't run certain routes without certain protections, you can't

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Speaker 4: do certain coverages without certain past rush responsibilities.

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Speaker 5: So he will have to be in step block.

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Speaker 4: With his defensive line coach because you just don't want

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Speaker 4: to be willing nilly because sometimes what if they want

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Speaker 4: to do his own blitz, you know, like that he's

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Speaker 4: always gonna be talking to the linebackers, but now you're

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Speaker 4: gonna to involve more often than not. He's probably already

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Speaker 4: did that with mister vanrew up. There is you got

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Speaker 4: to be in steplock with your defensive line coach because

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Speaker 4: your front end gotta be definitely lined up with your

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Speaker 4: back end.

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Speaker 5: So that's just the answer that. Yeah, and to go

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Speaker 5: and do what Jesse is talking about. It all starts

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Speaker 5: with free agent for.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it all if we if we if we wait

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Speaker 4: four weeks, in three weeks in saying hey, this is

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Speaker 4: the man we were going to be doing it wrong.

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Speaker 4: This is what has to change, Jesse. You've always been

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Speaker 4: on you. You didn't you didn't talk about it enough,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna I'm going at it.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: If we don't do anything in free agency, I mean

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Speaker 4: get some real players in free agency, not not practice

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Speaker 4: squad guys, not guys that you know somebody don't want

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Speaker 4: on ay roster.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about some of the front end guys.

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Speaker 4: And if we don't do that, you got too many

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Speaker 4: holes to feel if you don't do free agency at

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Speaker 4: least three or four good solid individual starters. Yes, we

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Speaker 4: hurting ourselves. We be putting this new coach behind the

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Speaker 4: eight ball.

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Speaker 5: So if we do.

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Speaker 4: See somebody in the draft defensively that we may want

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Speaker 4: to move up and get, we'll have that option.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, moving up I think would be difficult only because

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Speaker 7: you don't have a Day two pick, and that would

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Speaker 7: probably be what you need to throw in there to

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Speaker 7: move up unless you wanted to package both of your

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Speaker 7: first round picks.

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Speaker 6: No, really high up The only.

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Speaker 7: Guy that I watched so far in these draft prospects

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Speaker 7: that I would even think about doing that for is

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Speaker 7: Caleb Downs, the safety from Ohio State. And I know

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Speaker 7: you hear safety and you think, oh, top ten.

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Speaker 6: No, Well, I think this guy's a little different.

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Speaker 7: I think he is taking command of that Ohio State defense,

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Speaker 7: one of the smartest players.

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Speaker 6: Every time he's on the field.

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Speaker 7: He's the smartest player on the field, and he makes

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Speaker 7: plays all over the place in the box, in coverage.

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Speaker 6: He's going to be one of the best safety prospects

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Speaker 6: that we've seen in a while.

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Speaker 7: But to your point, yes, it is something where you're

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Speaker 7: probably not going to move up.

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Speaker 6: Downs will probably not be there.

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Speaker 7: But I will give you guys this Cooper Dejene was

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Speaker 7: just quoted about him about Christian Parker I should say,

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Speaker 7: and he said, I can say a lot of things

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Speaker 7: about what he's meant to me and Quinnon Mitchell two

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Speaker 7: we've had a routine of we go meet with him

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Speaker 7: two or three times a week to go over the

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Speaker 7: team we're playing, or to go.

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Speaker 6: Over different looks.

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Speaker 7: I don't think i'd be the player I am or

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Speaker 7: have the success that I've had without him He's pored

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Speaker 7: a lot into me and Quinnon two ever since we

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Speaker 7: got here.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate him for that.

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Speaker 7: Not everyone knows, and I don't think he gets to

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Speaker 7: the recognition that I think he should.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that what stood out to me

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Speaker 1: the most about that quote was quinnyn Mitchell and I

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Speaker 1: went to That's what stands out to me the most.

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Speaker 1: Will we have the guys in here We're after this

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Speaker 1: multiple times on our show. Is when I hear we

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Speaker 1: don't understand, we're confused. That tells me all I need

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Speaker 1: to know. That tells me that I have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of players who are not studying. That means I have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of players. When practice is over and meetings

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Speaker 1: are over, they both out of here. When you have

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Speaker 1: guys like you just read and said, we go meet

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Speaker 1: with him two to three times a week, that means

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Speaker 1: that ain't during meetings. That's either coming in early before

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Speaker 1: or staying late after. That's the level of commitment of

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Speaker 1: the type of players that the Cowboys need to be

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Speaker 1: looking to bring in. And I hope that now that

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Speaker 1: Christian Parker is here, he could identify some of those guys,

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Speaker 1: because that's what it takes the good ones go. I

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Speaker 1: need to know what it is you want from me,

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Speaker 1: so much so that you and not are finishing each

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Speaker 1: other's sentences. It's like a marriage. And so when I

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Speaker 1: hear that we go and meet with him two or

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Speaker 1: three times a week, that's initiative. That's the professionalism that

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Speaker 1: we're looking for from players. I can almost guarantee you

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been that way in the past.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 1: Defensively, that outside of your required meeting time when it

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Speaker 1: was over break lights, that's what y'all you were seeing

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Speaker 1: Peo Piero, Piero Pierio and Pierium Tallway race out of here.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't guy that was sticking around like I had

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Speaker 1: the fortune and I'm and you'll probably say the same.

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Speaker 1: I had the fortune of playing with some guys like that. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: you can walk in here. You can walk in and

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Speaker 1: I was in Valley Ranch. You can walk in Valley

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Speaker 1: Rant just about any time of the day, day or night.

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Speaker 1: You walk into one of that you are in one

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Speaker 1: of the meeting rooms. The Linebacker meeting Room, number fifty

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Speaker 1: was in there. Char Lee was in there. Chorn Lee

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Speaker 1: was in there. And if nobody was in the building.

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Speaker 1: He was in a big meeting room to get the

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Speaker 1: bigger screen. You walk in there. You look, you were

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Speaker 1: open the door and what's up, y'all? He and there

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Speaker 1: with the clicker, you know what I mean? Like there

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Speaker 1: were there were guys who were like that, who were

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Speaker 1: sitting those meeting rooms and would have the game plan

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Speaker 1: down to a t. Because I always said this about communication.

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Speaker 1: If I am an expert in something and I am

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Speaker 1: in a group project, I'm not silent when I hear

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Speaker 1: teams saying that, oh, we're confused, the communication is off.

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Speaker 1: That tells me the people who aren't in this group

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Speaker 1: project don't know what's going on, so nobody's talking. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: That's just what it is. If I'm in a room

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Speaker 1: with all these people and the conversation that comes up

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Speaker 1: about something that I know about, I ain't keepn quiet.

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Speaker 4: What's that big word he used when you said it is?

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Speaker 4: He said about how what type of meetings does does

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Speaker 4: he have?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's way back. You probably don't even remember.

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Speaker 6: Oh Socratic, Yeah meetings, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: I mean not secret meetings had cowboys, not secret?

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Speaker 6: You never had a Socratic seminar.

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Speaker 4: I probably had a thousand of them and didn't pay attention.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah he was there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, what we no is fine?

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Speaker 5: Fine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean about that.

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Speaker 5: I like that. I like that. But tell me, tell me,

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Speaker 5: believe me, Bro, you need to hang with the boys

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Speaker 5: a bit.

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Speaker 6: Logan, I love this show.

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Speaker 7: Coming to your point of Okay, do the Cowboys have

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Speaker 7: players that are going to have that hunger of I

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Speaker 7: want to meet with coach and I want to ask

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Speaker 7: coach questions. I'll give you one of them because we

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Speaker 7: heard all the time Mario guy, I want to talk

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Speaker 7: about corner position. But I'm sure weird all the time.

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Speaker 7: While this guy was rehabbing, like he will not stop

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Speaker 7: asking questions. These coaches just non stop asking questions, and

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Speaker 7: he's itching to get back on the field. This is

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Speaker 7: the v one revel Like this kid is hungry to

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Speaker 7: be a good player in the NFL and he would

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Speaker 7: just consistently ask Andre Curtis and David Overstreet the safeties

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Speaker 7: and defensive backs coach all the time, Hey what about

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Speaker 7: this am I supposed to be here and just try

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Speaker 7: to understand what it is that he needs to do.

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Speaker 7: When he got onto the field, he had an up

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Speaker 7: and down rookie season. It wasn't a great rookie year,

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Speaker 7: but he's that kind of player you will see in

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Speaker 7: that meeting room with the clicker or meeting with coach

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Speaker 7: however many times a week. It is obviously things will

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Speaker 7: change now that he's a defensive coordinator, not just a

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Speaker 7: secondary's coach. But he's gonna be one of those guys

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Speaker 7: that's gonna make sure he's in the right spot at

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Speaker 7: the right time.

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Speaker 1: We need at least at least eleven what do he seven?

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Speaker 1: We need seven?

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Speaker 8: Thing?

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Speaker 4: The thing is this right here, This coach fits everything

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Speaker 4: that we've talked about development uh being there all about

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Speaker 4: the players. Jesse, I'm gonna repeat what you just said,

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Speaker 4: is we got twenty five Savonne revels. Is we got

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Speaker 4: twenty five overshowns. You know, are we gonna try to

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Speaker 4: reinvent guys that we know can't play. That's a big

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Speaker 4: question for me because you know, y'all rather ever heard

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Speaker 4: me say anything bad about player. But it's some guys

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Speaker 4: need to lead this building. I don't care who they

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Speaker 4: bring in. Some guys need to lead this building. And

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Speaker 4: when OTAs come up, you know we should be like man,

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Speaker 4: we ain't got enough players out there because we done

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Speaker 4: got rid of a lot of guys.

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Speaker 5: Bro and I just believe that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well that's it for our show today, Kurt.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get to none of the questions. We'll save

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Speaker 1: them for next week. They breaking news, Yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: breaking news that happened right before the show. We always

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Speaker 1: appreciate your hard work that you put in to keep

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Speaker 1: this thing online as much as you possibly can. But yeah, Nate,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Come.

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Speaker 1: We'll get that. We'll get that medical report on Shannon

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Speaker 1: and see what that Mexican flu is. Jesus and I

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Speaker 1: hope you're feeling better, man. But uh for Tommy, for Kurt,

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Speaker 1: for Nate, for Chris being didn't break out Shannon, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he might have put his face a where he belonged

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Speaker 1: to Mexico.

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Speaker 6: Two nas her face.

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Speaker 1: I have your boy salt and pepper poppy faces.

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Speaker 6: What you said, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: This is hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 5: We out.

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