1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: world's number one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Alongside me are the world famous Pot Brothers at Law, 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Mark and Craig Wasserman and Mr Joe Grande, and you 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: are now tuned into the greatest cannabis show on the planet. Man, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: that's an old one. The universe, Well, it's the world, 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: I say. I always said, the universe. 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Dime 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: dot Industries, and you know, I'm wondering these tastes so good? 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Where do these turpines come from? You know, I think 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: that's a natural segue into our guests. Max Kobe from 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: abstracts tech dot com. Abstracts tech dot com. What is 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: abstracts tech? Thanks guys for having me abstracts text and 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: leader in cannabis research and tirpine based product formulations. So 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: so when I said dime tirpenes, does abstract have anything 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: to do with They're one of my favorite cluster customers. 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I love Alex over there, fantastic. I wish I wish 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't that was set up beforehand, that wasn't Which 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: flavor is that? I literally just got three dropped on 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: my door. Unfortunately I don't remember which one I hooked 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: into this thing because I must be good. But it's 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: very I think it might be like a banana or 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: something in ana mac banana mack. He said, he knows 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: exactly what that, which is great though. It's great to know, 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, So let's let's break it down though for 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't know anything about, you know, what is 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: what is a you know, a tirpene you know what 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: what is it? Because I mean, you know, we have 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners that know, you know what's going on, right, 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: but then there's that guy that's in the background. So 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: break it down like we've never no one's ever heard 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: anything about it for us. Yeah, I mean, just think 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: of essential oils, tyrpens or you know what gives every 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: plant it's it's aroma, it's fragrance, it's you know, sent impression. 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: You walk through a forest, you breathe in the nice conifers, 46 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the nice you know, pine trees, you feel relaxed, you 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: feel uplifted, you're breathing in Tirpenes typeens don't just exist 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: in cannabis, they exist in things all around the world. 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: So that's something that a lot of cannabis enthusiasts and 50 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: users do not realize and understand. When you talk about 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: turpeenes or automat they're thinking about, oh, and I'm matching 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: it with THHC and getting getting that that head high 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and all that. But as you were mentioning the pines 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: and everything else, it's it's the fascination with the entourage, right, 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: And so I think that's where cannabis is the most 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: abundant resource of these most valuable tirpenes and aromas that 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: have some type of functionality to them potentially, and so 58 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: here research has been stifled forever and we have the 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to unlock Pandora's box and teach the rest of 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: the world about you know, their uses and so the 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: entourage you know that combination with cannabinoid is kind of 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: that that misunderstood parts. Still, what brought you to turpines? 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: Why why are you take us back? When did it start? 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: It started at the I guess the ripe old age 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: of thirteen if it was by your guys, this question 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: when we started? Right? When did you start appreciating cannabis? 67 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: But that that's interesting because there it's that natural way 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: of looking at turpines and cannabis has one and not 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: realizing that there's so much more involved. But but seriously, 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: when did you start really becoming interested enough to know 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: that I'm going to study this, you know the science 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: behind it? Yeah, I mean at this point it was 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: the beginning of abstracts with two thousand eighteen, my brother, 74 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: organic chemist Kevin, He's been in the industry for a 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: long time, pioneering product formulations and typing research, and so 76 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: it's natural for us to you know, really focus on 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: exploratory research of what defines cannabis quality and what makes 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: it different. What are typing is because everybody when they're 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: coming into California, they were you know, buying up real 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: estate and setting up retail and brands and that's all, 81 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, extremely difficult, and we wanted to focus on 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: research the entire time. But carnabinoids is only one part 83 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: of the puzzle, right, and so we figured that there'd 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: be less people focused on the tirping research or the 85 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: flavor side of the research, and so that's where we 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: decided to really focus all of our efforts and and 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: really we obsessed over because we believe that's what defines 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: quality and cannabis is the flavor profile, you know, the 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: pungency and how that contributes to the overall experience. You know. 90 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, I've heard a lot of conversations, you know, 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: and I like you to try and explain this to 92 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: our listeners because a lot of people say that, you know, 93 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: tirpines it influences the high dramatic drastically, right. But you know, 94 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: in some people's notes at th HC level, some people, 95 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: it's the Tirpine profile. Is that Is that true in 96 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: any way? Or is that just you know? Is you know, 97 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: because I feel like certain flavors sense can definitely certainly 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: create an effect on on how you feel, you know, 99 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: like if you either there's a lot of you know, 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I smell something sometimes and it makes me or make 101 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: me tired or make me hungry. So does that is 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: that affect your high? Is that? Is that a true 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: statement from from people when they say that I don't 104 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: want to overwhelm everybody. That's why we're here educated. I 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: mean we I think the sciences is there to answer 106 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: and we're here to contribute to that collective knowledge. Right. 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: So we have research study going with Western Washington and 108 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Dr Kaplan has been amazing, and we're studying the entourage 109 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: effect by adding multiple turpin's together, right, and then to 110 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: figure out if that enhances the higher the effect. But 111 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: then simultaneously we have other research studies going on in 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Israel and other places to study terpings by themselves and 113 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: turpins with cannabinoids using cognitive, behavioral and blood studies all 114 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: correlating together. So I am confident um that we are 115 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to conclude from all this research 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: that there is a demonstrated effect and there is a difference, 117 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and that's why we can create targeted mood profiles for calming, relaxation, 118 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: uplifting energy. These are real. We know. I know, when 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: I smoke green crack, I'm up all night sending emails 120 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: to everybody, and by you know, smoke some really dank 121 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: Josh d O G or something fresh, then I'm gonna 122 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: be sedated and going to sleep. Right, So we know 123 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: that that exists. We've you know, partnered up with a 124 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: few different companies that aggregate tons of data to try 125 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: and prove this, and and I think it's absolutely real. Yeah, 126 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: and I find it. I find it very interesting because 127 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: for you know, the last you know, whatever thousand years 128 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: and people have been smoking cannabis or a hundred thousand years, 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. But it's just it's no 130 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: one's really brought that to forefront, you know. And it's 131 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: your company's like you know, like abstract coming out now 132 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: and and doing the testing, which we appreciate, right, and 133 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: taking the time to actually get with the the educated 134 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: minds of the world in order to figure those those 135 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: specific things out. Because I truly believe that, you know, 136 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: the chirping profiles is going to make or break the 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: plant itself because it's changing the the I guess the 138 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: profile of the plant, right, I mean if you if 139 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: you're putting, uh, are you saying it's hurting the plant? No? No, 140 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying it. It's so when someone comes in and smokes, smokes, 141 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: you know a joint, let's just say, and you have 142 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: you have one that has like a lavendar, let's just 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: call it a lavendar field. Right, Having some tea seems 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: to make me tired. You know, I don't know that. 145 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't have you ever heard of that? Sure, I 146 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: mean that's leanable, right, so so and I don't know 147 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: what that is, right, But I'm just like, oh, lavner 148 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: makes me tired. You know. The turpins come in in 149 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: the cultivation process, yeah, I mean they're produced. I mean, honestly, 150 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Advanced Nutrients is one of our partners as well. It's 151 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, and maximizing that tirping production in that yield. 152 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: Because I think what you know from our research with 153 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: cultivators like Strobinsky and Josh d and other people, is 154 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: we're all trying to create these really unique genetics that 155 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: are highly desirable, and so works. We're creating these desirable qualities, right, 156 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: What makes an asy fruity is these very compounds of that. Right, 157 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: what makes jack hair unique is be philandri and it's 158 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: that hazy profile and certain people you know like that, 159 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: and so it works for them differently, right, and so 160 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: they want to be able to and go find that 161 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: experience again. So and that experience isn't going to be 162 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: reproduced or captured by looking at twenty tirps or forty typines, right, 163 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: That's why we had to invest in like groundbreaking technology 164 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: to analyze three to five different compounds. You know, the 165 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: the things that make cannabis unique isn't even turpenes, right, 166 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: it's it's these sulfurs we actually discovered on the canna 167 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: sulfurs is what makes cannas sulfurs that that's what makes 168 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: that skunky smell. It's the same. What we discovered was 169 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: the same compounds that are found in garlic that give 170 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: it its medicinal properties, except for here you're inhaling it, right, 171 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: and there's more bioavailability. But it's a such a small 172 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: compound but has such magnitude of potential effect how does 173 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: that work to affect or modulate your high as well? 174 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, so you have to look at everything in 175 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the plant to see how, you know, we create these 176 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: synergies and uniqueness right well, and that's the that's the 177 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: whole entourage effect and how everything the CBD, the THHC, 178 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: and the tyrpenes work together. So depending on the type 179 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: of typings, I'm looking at website here, which is I 180 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: mean strains flavor, how many strains, how many typeene strains? 181 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I take pride in this right if you clearly we 182 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: are come from Canadas. We we live in breathe Cannabis 183 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: is where we we found our roots. So we are 184 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: working with farmers throughout you know, throughout California and our 185 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: licensed labs where we source an endless amount of strains 186 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: where we're constantly siphoning and analyzing the data and we're 187 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: studying it from flower through extraction, and then we're ranking 188 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: that against each other's for us to figure out what 189 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: makes these cannabis genetics unique. And out of those we 190 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: select the very best ones and we bring those the 191 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: market in California. And then out of those we select 192 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the best ones and we develop botanical typeine flavors that 193 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: we sell all around the world using the same exact 194 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: compounds and the same exact ratios that are all natural, 195 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: and they really capture the essence of what each of 196 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: these genetics, you know are who who are what makes 197 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: that final determination? Usually it's the farmer, I mean the 198 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: person who So for us to create authenticity in the marketplace, 199 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: it was about studying the genetics with the people responsible 200 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: for it. So if you think of we partner with 201 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Dan Hair to understand what makes to create the quality standard, 202 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: the benchmark for Jack hair, and well, well the only 203 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: company that can offer an authentic Jack Hair profile to 204 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: make the beer that Sweetwater did. If you saw that 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: or other products to market right, um, you know Scherbinsky's 206 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: we studied all their genetics and so if you really 207 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: want authentic product and you've got a partner with the 208 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: people that are responsible for the genetics to help them, 209 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: you know, understand what makes it special unique and to 210 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: also because everybody plays their part, right, they grew they 211 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: but they don't know how to really get the the 212 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: extract out of it right that the let me ask you, 213 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: even if you extract the product, what's the difference between 214 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: rosin and resin and flour right, nobody knows, just like 215 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: we differently. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, but you know 216 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: we we did the research on the same stream. We 217 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: extracted it every way. We looked at hundreds of compounds 218 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: and we deduced that one's more citrusy and uplifting and 219 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: one's more woody and calming. And at the end of 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: the day, quality is a determination by you know, you 221 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: or me good you know what it comes down to, 222 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: good in, good out. Yeah, sure, yeah, that's great effort. 223 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: All the technology. Well, guys, we're here with Max Colby. 224 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Uh he's the CEO and CEO right and the co 225 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: founder of Abstracts and abstract Tech and you can find 226 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: him at abstract Tech on Instagram or ww dot abstract 227 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: tech dot com. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. Will 228 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: be right back after this break. We'll be right back 229 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: with Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis 230 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one 231 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: on one with Blue Joe, Grande, Mark and Craig Wasserman, 232 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: the Pop Brothers at Law. And you are now in 233 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: tuned to the greatest can of a show on the 234 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: planet in the universe match Kobe, he's having a hard 235 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: time opening the turpenes that wright. Now what now, what 236 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: flavor is that? They're super sour diesel sauce. Man gave 237 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: me like a little chill. It smells amazing, dude, super 238 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: sounds like the best fire, some of the best fire ever. 239 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: And it's a liquid and it's liquid, so it's a 240 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: little bottle of liquid another realm of compounds. Now, what 241 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: happened Like you opened up a gas bag like a 242 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: bag and just had that fire in it. You know, 243 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: that's most amazing. What now, this would be something somebody 244 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: could drop into any drink you can ingest that you 245 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: want to make if you look at the companies, like 246 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: I could taste it right now, we could sort of 247 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: drop her into a couple. What if I drank the 248 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: whole thing? Is that do any good for anybody? If 249 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: you drink? Do not do that? Because it right if 250 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was th lay, everything be gone. Now 251 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: somebody could take a few drops of that and make 252 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you your twenty four hour energy shot that tastes like 253 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: supersour diesel sauce, you know, might might exhibit some similar effects. 254 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: So so so wait, saying that is there's no in this, right, 255 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: so just there's there is that is a we have sourced. 256 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: There's over a hundred there's over a hundred compounds in 257 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: that that have been isolated from other botanicals around the 258 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: world and distilled at our facility and then blended back 259 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: together in the same exact precise ratios as the best 260 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: supersour diesel sauce in the world. There's not one piece 261 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: of cannabis in that, so we can shift it all 262 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: over the world. But it is if I look at 263 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: the g C overlay on an analytical machine, it is 264 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: identical without on any of the undesirable compounds in there. 265 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: So it sounds to me like if I had a 266 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: cannabis th HC drink and I poured some of that 267 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: in there, that'd be a pretty good mix. That's exactly 268 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: how you make amazing super sour diesel sauce inspired beverage. 269 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Right But now, but now here's the thing is, I 270 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: think you mix that with some nice strawberry puree or something, 271 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: and now you have a strawberry super sour diesel sauce. 272 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: You got to where, like the pineapple expresses and the 273 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: berry gelatos, where that comes dreams are are trending because 274 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: we've got to go more mainstream with and that's where 275 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: all these exotic flavors are starting to trend. Wow, dude, 276 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: we're on this on this website. The you got you 277 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: got premium flavors, blue milk, turpen, blueberry cookies. I mean, 278 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: not everybody likes cannabis, right, You've got the gemographic that 279 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: likes functional flavors. So you want a blueberry that's uplifting, right, 280 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: and it's for inhalation. So you've got to design these 281 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: things for safety in mind. Right, you gotta scrutinize every 282 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: compound that goes in these understanding the right consume, you know, 283 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: consumption rates, and to make sure that we're providing safe 284 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: products at the market. You know, Max, I'm so glad 285 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: that you have this job and not me. You here 286 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: looking at like he's just knocking him out. Like the 287 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: the answers are so real, you know, and it's just like, man, 288 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's great to know that, like 289 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: we're sitting with somebody that really can, that knows their ship, 290 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, and that you got it's it's it's important, man, 291 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: And it's like I said, I I could. You know, 292 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I've heard so many things, right, and I can and 293 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: and for us, you know, we get to we get 294 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: to hear and and and you know, but I don't 295 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: want to wrap my head around it and to the 296 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: point where I'm training, you know, because I've I've done 297 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: training to you know, and I could do training, but 298 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: I you know, I just you know, it's good keep 299 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: smoking that vape and enjoying it. Yeah, It's just like 300 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: the training is a whole different ball game, right and 301 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: so but I I just value the fact that you're 302 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: out here. Now where do you guys? You know how 303 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: long you guys been in business? Two thousan eight teams 304 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: when we started debut at m J Biscon you know October? Okay? 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: And then and then so are you allowed to say 306 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: some of the custom as you currently work with? I mean, 307 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure they're on our walls. Yeah, probably 308 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind. Those guys are awesome, you know, Jeter is 309 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite clients right now. They're doing 310 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: a great job. Then, you know, I'm sure that most 311 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: people have tried our product out there, sure and enjoyed it. 312 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: And and so what what is it if you didn't 313 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: enjoy it wasn't ours. Yeah, alright, So do you find 314 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: other people outside of the cannabis industry, like, you know, 315 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: looking to get you know, products from you guys as well? Oh? 316 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely we Uh you've seen our work out there with Sweetwater. Um, 317 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: we've worked with if you look at the Blue Point Brewing, 318 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: you've seen Wicked Weed, the Doctor Dank Beer, that was 319 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: one of our beers that we did with them with 320 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Joe over there, and uh, a handful of other breweries. 321 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: And we've got some amazing products coming out with some 322 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: really cool so it's only gonna get bigger. Yeah. Well, 323 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: and then you've got the AI turp effects. Yeah, that's 324 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: a new one for us. So we act artificial intelligence 325 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: right with bud Board. Great guys, they've done an amazing 326 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: job developer. I have a bud board. Bud Board made 327 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: uh Pop Brothers a law of Budboard several years ago 328 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: and sented to us. That's awesome. Anyways, I'm sorry, anyway, 329 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: they like board. They've aggregated a ton of data and 330 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: we worked together with them with our research and their research. 331 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: We aggreated like a million data points on consumer reviews 332 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: and different research and then we developed these turping effects 333 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: based blends okay um a little bit more complex and 334 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: your traditional five blend profile, and then we hired we 335 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: put it through the rigorous rounds of testing. So we 336 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: hired world leading sensory psychologist Dr. Avery Gilbert's got the 337 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Wikipedia pages, Dr Smell. He came to us and put 338 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: together a whole sensory study to quantify the mood impressions 339 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: of these turping blends so that we can use them 340 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: as these you know, basic building blocks for brands to 341 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: incorporate into their flavor systems to provide some nice functionality 342 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: to create some purpose built products. And then we also 343 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: are now doing the same studies, the entreage study using 344 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: those We're doing the you know, observational studies, the different 345 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: blood tests and you know, really trying to put the 346 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: work into the data because that's where we're lacking right now. 347 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: That's you know, we always say this is that you know, 348 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: I I really believe that, you know, what we've been 349 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: doing for the last you know, ten fifteen years is 350 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: when is research and development? Like people you know have 351 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: to realize that, you know, this industry has a lot 352 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: of growth, but it's just research and development right, So, 353 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: and I look at us as yourself and the pioneers 354 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: of this industry that have been taking it from the 355 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: illicit markets to where it's at today. Is just you 356 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: know that we're waiting to be rolled up from the 357 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: big guys because they're letting us all do the research 358 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: and development, you know, and it's like, oh, you didn't 359 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: work for you, it didn't work for you, but oh 360 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: it works for you. Boom, it works for you a boom, 361 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: and then they get to kind of wipe out all 362 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: the you know, do you see that or because there's 363 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: a lot of companies out there that, let's be honest, 364 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: they are doing terms, but I think some of them 365 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: are just white labeling. Some of them are just doing 366 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: this someone doing that. Is that a bad thing or 367 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: is that just you know, they're doing their homework or 368 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: they do the deserve to be here. I mean, I 369 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: think there's good operators, you know, and then there's there's 370 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: other operators. I think the reality is is if you're 371 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: trying to be a if you're trying to be a 372 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: typing company, you're not a typing company or a flavor house, okay, 373 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: and you're a very specialized flavor house. That is making 374 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: flavors for both ingestion and inhalation. Right. And so because 375 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: cannabis you know, regulations lack requirements like the f d A, 376 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: then it allows, you know, for more bad operators out 377 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: there to put products in the market that aren't safe. 378 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: And you saw that with vapegate. Right when we saw 379 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: those products go to market, we commissioned to health study 380 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: with UCR to study the toxicity on lung tissue of 381 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: inhaling these dilutants, including vitamin acetate and our product, tech 382 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: Temper and other competitors products. And what we found was 383 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot of data support our products and that it 384 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: was safer to use, and we were able to use 385 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: that and support with our customers and we're trying to 386 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, educate everybody on this, but it just allows 387 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: too much, you know, for for you know, people use 388 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: ingredients that aren't vetted for this, and that's where you know, 389 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: there's a big need in the market to continue elevating 390 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: and creating a standard. Are these at all harmful for people? 391 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's the same compounds found in cannabis and 392 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: the same ratios and and we haven't seen any you know, 393 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: reason to be concerned we haven't had health issues right 394 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: outside of you saw vapecate. That could have been the 395 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: beginning of COVID for all we know. But still, you know, 396 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: people got sick, a few people got sick, and what 397 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: was happening was people were cutting carts with one compound. 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: And it's not safe to inhale anything, right, even oxygen 399 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: is going to hurt us. So if you're using products responsibly, 400 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: you're consuming natural flavors every day right that you consume products, 401 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: and so it can be done responsibly and it can 402 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: be done safely. And that's that's exactly, And it's safer 403 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: than cigarettes right by far. It's just we it's on 404 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: the onus is on us to prove that. And that's 405 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: what we're doing now is you know, doing the talk 406 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: studies and providing the data to support well they're also 407 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of proof right now that 408 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know there's proof, but there's 409 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: research that's that's going about. That's that's talking about how 410 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, TC can help a lot of things, right, 411 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: and so with with the same these compounds I'm looking at, 412 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of um, you know what 413 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know they's actually termed for it. So I'm 414 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: getting caught in the in the wrath. But it's a therapeutic, 415 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, pharmacokinetics, it's all there's there's a huge medicinal application, 416 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: just like the like the garlic, right, it's healthy to garlic. 417 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: If you think it's healthy to can. You know, hotlist, 418 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: there's all this research coming out about hot boil. If 419 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: you like that, you like Cannaba's oil, and it's very holistic. 420 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: There's a very holistic model too well. So you've got 421 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: the strains, the flavors, the ai turp effects on this, 422 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: and now the tirpene isolates. So what's what's being isolated. 423 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: It's the actual turpine isolate that you know is found 424 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: in cannabis. So like mirror scene, for example, is one 425 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: of the most common one that's also found in mangoes, 426 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: lemon grass. You've got tons of pure reviewed research out 427 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: there in the universe that says it's calming, it's sad, 428 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: it's couch locking. Um. You know, some people believe if 429 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: you eat a mango after you smoke pot that increases 430 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: the you know effective it. Yeah, but that was that. 431 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I still believe that Honestly, it's like your cheeks just 432 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: started going like this and you just kind of feel 433 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: a little better. Right, I love it, right, Beta, I 434 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: mean I'm just looking at these alpha fella dream turpeene. 435 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean like a good o G. A good o 436 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: G is dominant mere scene and the gas right? What 437 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: is that scene? What is that? That is a turplet? Right? 438 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: How many turpine isolates are there? Hundreds? So they Here's 439 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: the thing is, cannabis is the most abundant source. So 440 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: we're discovering new Turkey islets and and so right now, 441 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, most testing labs across the country are only 442 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: testing twenty to forty turpin's. We're testing three to five hundreds. 443 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: So do you get to name the new ones? Really 444 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: doing the We have the same question, Yeah, yeah, really 445 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: like really doing it. Huh, We're really doing it, That's 446 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Do you name it? Do you name 447 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: the new ones you find? Well, we just we we 448 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: discovered this whole class of files and a roma compounds 449 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: we call can sulfurs. So are you patting? I mean 450 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: I mean how do you how do you make this yours? 451 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like how is that sure? So we we 452 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: recently got a flavor patent awarded for our research. So 453 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: now it's on what one goes. It's all that you know, 454 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: it's the rollout. Have you say that any season desist letters? Yeah, 455 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: if you're doing we're out there trying to reproduce our research, 456 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: then uh, now it's like we have affiliate you I 457 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: smelled it. Yeah, well I hopefully it doesn't take that 458 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: turn and everybody does their own thing. But again, you know, 459 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of money and time and development 460 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: that's gone in the R and D here in research 461 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: and publications that we published out there to recognize it. 462 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Like they say that your magazine and they say it's lattery, right, 463 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: copy copycats, it's flattery. I mean, it's still difficult to 464 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: you know, analyze and try to reproduce it with you know, 465 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: the same consistency even Well, guys, listen, it's ww dot 466 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: abstract tech dot com. You can find them at Instagram 467 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: at abstract Tech. 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Hi five Blue, So we're gonna 487 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: ask you five fund questions, young man. Are you ready? 488 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: I think so? Okay? Question number one? How old are 489 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: you the first time you smoked? And who did you 490 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: get it from? I had to ask my mother this question. 491 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: We gotta stop handing him out. Obviously, you have a 492 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: great relationship with your boss. Your mom knows when did 493 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: you get busted that? You know? Yeah? Yeah, I found 494 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: out we had a better relationship than I thought, because 495 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: she said she knew a lot earlier than she busted me. 496 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, eighth grade, you know, is 497 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: what she says. I'd agree with that. So I think 498 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: that's thirteen. That's about right, that's about right. She wanted 499 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: to fourteen. But nowhere, well, hold on, that's the age. 500 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Where did you get it from? Definitely my neighbor down 501 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: the street, Chet, if you're listening out there, Chet, this 502 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: is all your fault. Just three. I don't know if 503 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 1: I should thank you. No season to sit there, all right? 504 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: Question number two of the Cannabis Talk one on one 505 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: High five with Max Kobe, President of Abstracts text, what 506 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: is your favorite way to medicate? I smoke a lot 507 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: of apes, all right, so I I and I can't 508 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: can't say he's my favorite that take. Well, let me 509 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: ask you this. Does it have your turpens in it? 510 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: Of course? Okay? Or live resin? Right? We could do 511 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: some bombs firelive resins, but I don't know. I appreciate 512 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: a good good blunt. Yeah, sometimes good Japans. Question number 513 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: three of the High five Craziest place You've ever used 514 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: or smoked cannabis? This is definitely amsterdamn Final Day. They 515 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: smoked out the whole show with the make believe um 516 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: uh space ship and and they smoked out the entire 517 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: place as it lifted off inside the place. And I 518 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: didn't think it was possible, but I'm pretty sure everybody 519 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: got high. Yeah, what show was this? This is the 520 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: high Time? The High Time can cannabis cut cannabis original 521 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: when we used to smuggle the cannabis from California to 522 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: get performing on stage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 523 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: Actually I think you know the local band um uh 524 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. It was one of the reggae bands 525 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: locally that was playing down there was funny that's not 526 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: from here, you're something from Sans from San Diego. Oh 527 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: they're probably talking about come on now, Well, I was 528 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: just talking about all these bands, so I have to 529 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: remember just killing me. They just launched a brand to BlimE, 530 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: but they're from Bloon Beach song No no, not Sublime. Sorry, 531 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: not so well, you said they just launched the Browns, 532 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: so Sublime just launched just from with a healing tree. 533 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: But well, while you're thinking about that, let's get to 534 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: question number four of the Canada five. What is your 535 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: go to munchie after you get high? I got a 536 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: bag of Starburst, red Starburst like that red cheeks, my cheeks. 537 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Already getting excited over that one. Alright. Question number five 538 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: is that this is my favorite one. If you could 539 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it 540 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: be and why? Yeah, I'm gonna give you a good 541 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: answer for this one. Okay. It's it's our flavorist that 542 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: is running our cannabis Sensory panel. She's the coolest o 543 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: G in the world, and smoking cannabis with her is 544 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: an education every single time. No way, it's a funny. 545 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: We got to bring it down next time. Apart really 546 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: you learn some things. It's amazing. So so listen. You know, 547 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: first of all, Max, thank you for being here and 548 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 1: sharing your your your information with us, because it's so 549 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: important that we get it out to the world and 550 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: and people have to understand, you know, what they're smoking 551 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: and what they're ingesting and how they're doing it and 552 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: why and why why it makes sense? And so what 553 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: what else is there? You know before we let you 554 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: get on down here that you want to share with 555 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: us that we forgot. Um, get high and enjoy responsibly. 556 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: And uh, if you're a cannabis business out there and 557 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: you want to give abstracts a try mentioned cannabis talk 558 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: one on one and we're gonna give you a fat 559 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: discount to try our product. That's it. That's that's that 560 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Is that a threat or a promise? You're flooded. Everybody 561 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: will be like, well let's try this, get us out. 562 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: So where do you guys look at it? We're located 563 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: in Long Beach is where our licensed research facilities are, 564 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: and then our tirpy manufacturing flavor facilities over in Testing, California. 565 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: And then and um, you know, let me ask you this. 566 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Uh is this something that is more retail or wholesale 567 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: for people? Yeah, it's more definitely Is that plane again 568 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: another another jet? Jet planes? Yeah, it's it's mostly wholesale. 569 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: I'll be two b stuff. But you can find some 570 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: things if you're consumer, you want to try some infused 571 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, rolling papers or you know, cones and things 572 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: like that. Try some things on our website. Yeah, nice dude, 573 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: We'll check them out. Guys, as Cannabis Talk one on one, 574 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: and remember this, if no one else loves you, we do. 575 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one 576 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 577 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.