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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: We live in unique times and I know you know

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Speaker 1: to come to today and the big stories and everything

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Speaker 2: Not long that long ago. There are people watching right.

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Speaker 1: Now who lived in the nineteen fifties and the nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 1: How many sources did you have to get the news

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Speaker 1: You probably didn't even have a television in your house.

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Speaker 1: How many ways do I have to access information?

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Speaker 1: Endless amounts of information we can consume, and there are

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Speaker 1: when there is a story, a scandal, it will burn bright,

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Speaker 1: Man the heat's gonna be Onumn for about twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about it, I'm talking about It's on every

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Speaker 1: There's so much information that really, no matter what happens,

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Speaker 1: And so the challenge you face, the challenge I face

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about climate change. We're going to

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Speaker 8: During conversations this week, I underscored again that the United

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Speaker 2: That's the enemy gets a call.

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Speaker 1: Stephen real Quick, tell us about your book.

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Speaker 9: The book is called The Devil in Communist China. China

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Speaker 9: Chairman Mao for you. As the twig is bent, so

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Speaker 1: Stephen, appreciate you very much, my man.

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Speaker 2: Up, keep your eyes on.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about culture issues. Trump made a

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Speaker 1: talk about your personal defense. You see, there's an old saying.

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Speaker 2: That's not a plan. Berna is a plan.

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Speaker 1: Having a burna pistol launcher, Now that's a plan.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's non lethal.

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Speaker 2: Will stop a bad man in his tracks. This thing

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Speaker 2: might save your life.

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Speaker 1: Berna dot com slash Jesse doesn't just save you money,

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Speaker 10: Many people have asked me what my position is on

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Speaker 1: Everybody has an opinion about Trump putting out his abortion

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Speaker 2: I love the freaking federalist.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Terry, I'll give it to you first, and I'll

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Speaker 2: You saw the video.

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Speaker 3: And then also, this is the most important part, is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jny, you bashing head or cheering.

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Speaker 11: I think I'm neither right now. I think that Donald

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Speaker 1: Okay, Brianna, I guess I'll leave it with you before

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Speaker 11: of course, abortion is wrong morally, But unfortunately we don't

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Speaker 1: Terry, how am I supposed to feel that? Because look,

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Speaker 3: this election, if we don't reelect Donald Trump, our choices

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Speaker 3: are very slim in terms of pro life gains in

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Speaker 3: the future. I mean, we'll be talking about just avoiding

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Speaker 3: jail time, and we have to face the fact that

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Speaker 3: we are up against an entire political party that wants

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Speaker 3: to throw maga Republicans in jail. They don't want to

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Speaker 3: just allow you to exist and have your talking points

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Speaker 3: and tweets online. They want to come for you. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're locking up old Grandma's right now that we're just

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Speaker 3: praying in the Capitol. So this is coming at a

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Speaker 3: very unfortunate time where Republicans certainly have a lot of options,

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Speaker 3: but the whole point of winning elections is to win

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Speaker 3: on policy, and so listen, I think we need to

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Speaker 3: pump the brakes on criticizing and just continue to work

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Speaker 3: with him and help him see the opportunity of a

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Speaker 3: fifteen week limit to where he can use that to

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Speaker 3: go on offense and also use it to moderate against

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Speaker 3: some of the more extreme versions in the States.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on and talk about the check

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Speaker 1: of Brianna. You wrote a piece about a grandma going

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Speaker 1: to the clink for cruising around the Capitol for ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: Who is this dangerous criminal taken down by our heroic

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Speaker 1: justice system?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Iconic?

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Speaker 11: Honestly, when we have people robbing punching girls in the

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Speaker 11: streets in New York City. A seventy something year old

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Speaker 11: great grandmother, actually not just a grandma, a great grandma

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Speaker 11: might end up in jail. Apparently she'll have to pay

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Speaker 11: a hefty fine because she walked into the capital for

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Speaker 11: less than twelve minutes. She's seen on videos. She prays,

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Speaker 11: she speaks to a Capitol police officer, and she leaves.

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Speaker 11: And the way she described it essentially was that once

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Speaker 11: she realized what was happening, she decided, you know what,

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Speaker 11: I'm going to head out peacefully. The same doors that

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Speaker 11: she walked in through she exited through. And it's really

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Speaker 11: concerning Jesse because this is the woman who pays her

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Speaker 11: ten tax dollars to fund the Capitol Building. The Capitol

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Speaker 11: Building is standing, it has lights on because of people

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Speaker 11: like her, and no one is condoning the violence that

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Speaker 11: took place on January sixth. But when you have Capitol

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Speaker 11: police officers seen on video essentially allowing people in, it

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Speaker 11: sends a signal, okay, well this is permitted, right If

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Speaker 11: they're not saying get out right now, and they're opening

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Speaker 11: the doors for them and they're kind of directing them,

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Speaker 11: that is misleading to these individuals, and to throw someone

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Speaker 11: like her who's clearly not a threat into jail speaks

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Speaker 11: volumes of where the Biden Department of Justice has their

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Speaker 11: priorities right, because we have seen people who've burned down

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Speaker 11: or tried to throw mol to of cocktails when the

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Speaker 11: abortion debate was happening. They get off scott free. The

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Speaker 11: people like her don't.

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Speaker 1: Terry. How seriously do we think that Trump administration, if

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Speaker 1: we actually get one, how seriously do we think.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take this.

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Speaker 1: Politicization if we're going to put it that way, to

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Speaker 1: put it in a very nice way, of the entire

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Speaker 1: legal system of the United States of America. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how we can continue with a DEFBI like this.

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Speaker 1: But what can Trump do about it? There was nothing

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Speaker 1: done last time?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it all starts with getting a new

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Speaker 3: Attorney general in place. My favorite pick for that would

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Speaker 3: be obviously Mike Davis, who's been phenomenal across the boarder

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Speaker 3: on all this stuff. But listen, I don't think anyone

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Speaker 3: will take correcting our justice system more seriously than the

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Speaker 3: guy that has what ninety seven trumped up charges. Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump knows that he has to fix this, this injustice

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Speaker 3: system that's going after political opponents more than anyone does.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: He is going to take this seriously because he has

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Speaker 3: to if he wants to ever have a freedom, if

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Speaker 3: he ever wants to have a good life for his

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Speaker 3: own children and grandchildren, which I think he does, he

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Speaker 3: will take this very seriously. And I think a great

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Speaker 3: person to start with the Department of Justice would be

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Speaker 3: Mike Davis.

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Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of Americans are not aware that the

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Speaker 1: women's basketball tournament is going on right now, but it.

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Speaker 2: Is in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Heads head coach Don Staley had this to say about

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Speaker 1: Tranne's and women's sports.

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Speaker 12: One of the major issues facing women's sports right now

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Speaker 12: is the debate discussion topic about the inclusion of transgender

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Speaker 12: athletes biological males in women's sports. I was wondering if

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Speaker 12: you would tell me your position on that issue.

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Speaker 13: I'm on the the opinion of of if you're a woman,

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Speaker 13: you should play. If you consider yourself a woman and

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Speaker 13: you want to play sports or vice versa, you should

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Speaker 13: be able to play. That's that's my opinion.

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Speaker 12: You want me to go deeper, do you do you

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Speaker 12: think transgender women should be able to participate.

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Speaker 13: That's your questions. I mean you want to ask, so

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Speaker 13: I'll give you that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, Brianna.

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Speaker 1: I'm not totally convinced we're winning this trainee's and women's

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Speaker 1: sports thing because we keep yelling, but it keeps moving forward.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Republicans are just simply not doing enough, especially at

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Speaker 11: the state level. And you know, women, I see both

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Speaker 11: of you guys would not know what this feels like,

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Speaker 11: but we are being reduced down to nothing but caricatures.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 11: We have men who dress up and they put on makeup,

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Speaker 11: and they put on a dress or bra, and they

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Speaker 11: say that they feel like a woman. And then people

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Speaker 11: actually have decided to tell women that after you know, years,

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Speaker 11: dozens of years, centuries really of forcing us to essentially

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Speaker 11: acquiesce to whatever a man has to tell us. Right,

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Speaker 11: a man says you can't go to work, you don't

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Speaker 11: go to work. Back in the early nineteen hundreds, we

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Speaker 11: finally get all these rights and these freedoms, and now

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Speaker 11: are being told that men are going to tell us

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Speaker 11: how to be a woman, and that we have to

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Speaker 11: actually be okay with them teaching us how to be

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Speaker 11: a real woman. And when it comes to women, in sports.

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Speaker 11: She looked reluctant to answer that question. I think she

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Speaker 11: was worried more so about the political backlash rather than

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Speaker 11: what her actual beliefs were, because that is not a

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Speaker 11: woman who believes she said fast in her opinion, I

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Speaker 11: would have answered that immediately either way, no matter what

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Speaker 11: side you're on, you answer that immediately. She didn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you're so sure. I've never wanted dress.

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Speaker 1: I might put on address to series.

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Speaker 4: We're done here.

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Speaker 1: I bet Terry wears dresses all the time. Terry, I

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Speaker 1: bet you, I bet you. I bet you look great

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Speaker 1: in a light blue Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I think that that video reminded me of a terrorist

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Speaker 3: hostage video, right. I mean, I'd love to see the

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Speaker 3: other side of that room to see if there were

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Speaker 3: any guns point at that poor lady. But that is

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Speaker 3: the thing that the left has is they have captured

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Speaker 3: all of our elite institutions, and they have people scared

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Speaker 3: to death of losing their job and losing their livelihood

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Speaker 3: if they just say the wrong thing. Here. Well, let's

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Speaker 3: not forget that We've gotten twenty four states to protect girls' sports,

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Speaker 3: gotten twenty three states sound to protect kids from these

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Speaker 3: gender mutilation surgeries. The momentum at the state levels high.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has been exceptional on this issue, been very

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Speaker 3: clear about what he wants to do and what he's

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Speaker 3: going to do as president to protect our girls in

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Speaker 3: their sports and our kids from these procedures. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to win this thing, but we

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Speaker 3: just we got to start sending people to jail and

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Speaker 3: start suing the heck out of them because they're they're

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Speaker 3: really endangering a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Terry, Brihanna, appreciate you both. All Right, we have more

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Speaker 1: culture war talk this whole uh racism. Remember that what's

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Speaker 1: that term they love started with an s? Remember that

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Speaker 1: term systemic racism. Remember that. Let's talk about what systemic

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Speaker 1: racism is, isn't and is there any of it here

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Speaker 1: in America? Before we talk about that. Speaking of systemic problems,

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Speaker 1: there's a systemic problem in the timeshare industry. They're really

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Speaker 1: genuinely is it's a systemic problem. What is that problem? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's become just how they do business. They get people

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Speaker 1: signed up for these time shares and they never tell

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Speaker 1: you when you're signing up, but you're signed.

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Speaker 2: Up for life, and people don't know it.

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Speaker 1: You think what I'm done, I'm done, I can get out.

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Speaker 1: But they tell you no, no annual fees pay them

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Speaker 1: every single year special assessments PAMP and then they doubled.

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Speaker 2: The annual fees on you.

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Speaker 1: Didn't they But you're not stuck for life you used

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Speaker 1: to be, But now we have Lone Star Transfer. Lone

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Speaker 1: Star Transfer is the family business that will legally and

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Speaker 1: permanently get.

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Speaker 2: You out of your time share.

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Speaker 1: You ready for that, Be free, set yourself free. Go

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Speaker 1: call them eight four four three one zero two six

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Speaker 1: four six. They guarantee it. They guarantee it in writing.

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Speaker 1: Go'll be free, We'll be back.

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Speaker 7: I think the Republican Party is sort of this extremist,

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Speaker 7: anti science, nativist, you know, embracing white supremacist insurrectionist party

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Speaker 7: at this point.

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Speaker 4: White nationalists, anarchists, whatever in this country that are using

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Speaker 4: mass mandates and a public health crisis to sort of

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Speaker 4: wage chaos.

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Speaker 9: Domestic terrorism from white supremacists is the most lethal terrorist

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Speaker 9: threat in the homeland.

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Speaker 3: What I know is the law, and what I know

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Speaker 3: is what white people are willing to do.

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Speaker 4: You to defend white supremacy.

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Speaker 7: Being Hispanic or being black does not or being anything

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Speaker 7: does not make you.

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Speaker 9: Immune from being racist, from being radicalized, from being a

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Speaker 9: white supremacist.

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Speaker 5: Republicans have used the Special Counsel's report to further their

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Speaker 5: long standing efforts to re elect re elct the former

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Speaker 5: white supremacist in chief, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a pretty scary problem, this white supremacy.

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Speaker 2: We better tackle that.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Jeremy Carl, author of the book The

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Speaker 1: Unprotected Class. Jeremy, you know, one of those terms that's

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Speaker 1: been just thrown around so much in recent years is

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Speaker 1: systemic racism.

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Speaker 2: Systemic racism.

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Speaker 1: Is there systemic racism around this country? And if there is, against.

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Speaker 4: Whom, well just see, I think you've asked just the

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Speaker 4: right question. There is some systemic racism going on, but

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Speaker 4: the victim group in that kind of formula is the

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Speaker 4: opposite of what you just heard on that nice pre roll.

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Speaker 4: It was really white people who are disproportionately the victim

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Speaker 4: of that type of systemic racism. And you see that

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Speaker 4: everywhere from job applications to universities, to the way Hollywood

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Speaker 4: talks about things, to even healthcare. You pretty much name

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Speaker 4: the area. And that's sort of what I try to

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Speaker 4: outline in this new book, The Unprotected Class that'll be

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Speaker 4: out and is available for pre ordering now, but it'll

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Speaker 4: be out on the twenty third of April.

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Speaker 2: You see it everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Once you see it, Once you see it, you can't

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Speaker 1: unsee it. How all the guns seem to be aimed

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Speaker 1: at white people now, it's just very very common. You

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Speaker 1: can trash them, bad mouth them, call them names, freeze

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Speaker 1: amount of jobs.

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Speaker 2: You can be open about that.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just permitted, it's encouraged in this country.

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Speaker 2: What's behind it?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Jesse, that's a great question, and I think

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Speaker 4: I think we should always ask that. I mean, I'm

663
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: enough of a kind of recovering academic that I think

664
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: you need to be very systemic in terms of how

665
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: you look at these sorts of issues. There is a

666
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: famous sociologist of ages pastic I named Sewright Mills who

667
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 4: talked about legitimating ideologies, and that's just a fancy way

668
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: of saying that regimes of all sorts of types kind

669
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Speaker 4: of create ideologies to justify the things that they want

670
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: to do. Well, I think ultimately what is really driving

671
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: this is that there are a bunch of groups that

672
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: see that white people in America have a lot of

673
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: resources of various types that they've accumulated, understandably because this

674
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: has been the dominant group numerically in the United States

675
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: from kind of pretty much time immemorial, and they want

676
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: those resources. But in the kind of common American context today,

677
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: you can't just say, well, I'm taking your stuff because

678
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: I want it. That doesn't really work that well except

679
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: for maybe some squatters in New York City. But so

680
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: you need an ideology around that. You need an ideology

681
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 4: that says, I am taking this from you because you

682
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: owe me, because you're oppressive, because you have been historically racist,

683
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: because this system is systemically racist against me, et cetera,

684
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Speaker 4: et cetera. You need to kind of develop all that.

685
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: And these ideologies don't again, they don't spring fully armored

686
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 4: like Athena from Zeus's head ready for battle. There's a reason,

687
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: and they've been ges dating for a while, they've been

688
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: moving around for a while. To do that. We need

689
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 4: that type of ideology. And so, because people want those

690
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: resources that a lot of white people, and certainly not

691
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: all white people, but a lot of white people have,

692
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: they develop this ideology of white supremacy in order to

693
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Speaker 4: justify claiming them.

694
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Speaker 1: Then why are the people who push this at the top.

695
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the street animals at the bottom

696
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: that the climate change nutters and the antifas of black

697
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: lives matters. Let's set the street animals aside. The people

698
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: at the top pushing this are all white. It's everybody

699
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: from Bill Gates to Bezos to Biden to all these people.

700
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: They're wider than you.

701
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: And me combined. What's the deal?

702
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Speaker 4: So that you've hit on two really important books of

703
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 4: points in my book in just that brief comment. The

704
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 4: first is that in any time you have these sorts

705
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: of ideologies, you have what's called the and from nineteen

706
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: eighty four here an inner party at an outer party.

707
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Speaker 4: So the inner party kind of that's the Bill gateses

708
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Speaker 4: of the world to a degree, and certainly even people

709
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: a little bit out from him, they're the people who

710
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: are a little more sophisticated actors. They understand exactly what

711
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: they're doing, even if they sometimes don't want to admit

712
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: it to themselves because it may not make them feel

713
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Speaker 4: good about themselves, but they kind of understand. That's a

714
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Speaker 4: much smaller number of actors. Then there's the much bigger group,

715
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Speaker 4: and that's what's called. You just call them the street animals.

716
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: It's a fair enough label, but I think it's the

717
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 4: much broader group of people. Not even all those people

718
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Speaker 4: are out in the streets, but it's a group of

719
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: people who are sort of brainwashed by that inner party,

720
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: by the media, et cetera, to think, Hey, you know,

721
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: I'm just fighting for social justice, I'm fighting for the

722
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Speaker 4: American way freedom. They don't even necessarily realize that what

723
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: they're ultimately doing is participating in this campaign of expropriation.

724
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: So that's what you So that's the first thing, this

725
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: key distinction between an inner and an outer party. The

726
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: second key point that I think you just touched on,

727
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 4: there is a lot of these people are whiter than

728
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: you and I, and I think for them there are

729
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: two different things going on with these groups. There are

730
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Speaker 4: some that are the Bill Gates's of the world, and

731
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Speaker 4: for them to be anti white is essentially a status symbol.

732
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: It's a power symbol Bill Gates. You could discriminate against

733
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: him from here to eternity. It wouldn't make any difference

734
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: to him because he's so wealthy, he's so powerful. Like

735
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: you want to marginalize him for being white. It doesn't

736
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: even matter to him. It's a way of saying for

737
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: people like Bill Gates, and again even people well done

738
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: the rung of the ladder from Bill Gates, but still

739
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 4: very influential and powerful people. I'm more influential. I'm more

740
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Speaker 4: powerful than you. I don't need to be treated equally

741
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: to succeed in this system. That's one group. Then I

742
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: think we also have a second group in society, and

743
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: these guys, I've got to be honest, we haven't totally

744
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: figured out what's going on, but we can look at

745
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: the research and see that it's going on, which is

746
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: that white liberals. And this is exclusive to white liberals.

747
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 4: It is not true when you survey any other group.

748
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Speaker 4: It's not true of black liberals, it's not true of

749
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Speaker 4: Hispanic liberals, it's not true of any other race, of

750
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Speaker 4: any other ideology. But white liberals consistently display self hatred,

751
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: hatred for white people. They rate white people lower on

752
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: pretty much every kind of metric that you could imagine.

753
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: This is extraordinarily unusual. I'm not aware of any other

754
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: country or any other ideological group where this has ever

755
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: existed for and so there's almost some sort of brainwashing

756
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: self brain going on for some members of this group,

757
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: you feel like, and it may be connected to the

758
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 4: fact that when you also look at the research, white

759
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: self reported white liberals have much much higher rates of

760
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: mental illness. So you have a bunch of bright, very motivated,

761
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: mentally ill people who hate themselves and people like them,

762
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Speaker 4: and you add them to the Bill gates and then

763
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: you add them, because I'm not letting minorities off the

764
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: hook here, you add them to some bad actors among

765
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Speaker 4: minority political leaders who just want power for their own group,

766
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Speaker 4: and you've got a very toxic group.

767
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Speaker 2: Alive.

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Speaker 1: That's so true, all right, speaking of the minority portion

769
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Speaker 1: of this, the civil rights movement, the civil rights movement

770
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: got taken over, poisoned and politicized, and it's whatever it

771
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: is today. It doesn't look like it used to. Look

772
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: when did the civil rights movement go from please don't

773
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: treat black people like crap to kill whitey.

774
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's another great question, Jesse, And I

775
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: think there are some who kind of argue, well, the

776
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: chalice was poisoned from the moment we drank. It just

777
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: took a longer time to get there, and there are

778
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Speaker 4: some who argue that this was really a transformation. I

779
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: don't see it as particularly useful to relitigate the nineteen

780
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: sixty four Civil Rights Act. I think it responded to

781
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: some very real problems in our society, and you can

782
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: kind of argue, well, maybe it did it in maybe

783
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: not the best way, but I mean there were real

784
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: things that it was addressing. I think the thing to

785
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 4: step back and say is we are now in twenty

786
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: twenty four as far away from that time as they

787
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 4: were from the Right Brothers, and so there's just a

788
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: lot of water under the bridge since then. We have

789
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: a very different set of problems facing our society. We're

790
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: not faced with the problem of like, hey, nobody's going

791
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 4: to be allowed to sit at some lunch counter or

792
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: drink from a water fountain or whatever have you. What

793
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 4: we instead have the problem is are a number of

794
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: really bogus discrimination suits. We have problems of so called

795
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: disparate impact. We have so called we have affirmative actions

796
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: in which the court is just addressed in universities very helpfully,

797
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 4: but it's not really clear as to whether that's going

798
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: to apply to employment and other things. So we've got

799
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: all this reverse discrimination. I don't think there was any

800
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 4: one inflection point you could point to. I think it's

801
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: more that just when you give what some people might

802
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: call the administrative state or the deep state, when you

803
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: kind of give them a little bit, when you give

804
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: them a little bit of rope, they'll hang you with it.

805
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: And so these guys were all radical leftists. They were

806
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: in the bureaucracy, and they took the civil rights movement,

807
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: and they took a lot of very legitimate things that

808
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: they wanted to accomplish, and instead they just kind of

809
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: ran away, and over year after year began putting more

810
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: and more rules on this that effectively made it an

811
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: anti white movement that sort of went unchallenged. And it's

812
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: actually very interesting when you go back and you read

813
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: some of the congressional debate that was going on in

814
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty four in the civil rights movement, there was

815
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: discussion of where they were saying, oh, no, you know,

816
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: we'd never do quote clearly that is absolutely disallowed, or

817
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 4: what became disparate impact law in the Supreme Court. Impact

818
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: means basically, every race doesn't effectively wind up equal on

819
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: some measure, then it's presumptively illegal. All this stuff. They said, Oh,

820
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: it can't happen, it won't happen, and we're not going

821
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: to do that in the law, and then they passed

822
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: it and the deep state eventually put it all in

823
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: any way. So I think that's kind of it's just

824
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 4: been a death of a thousand cuts, as.

825
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: They always do. All right, Jeremy, real quick to wrap

826
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: this up. What can people do to fight back against us? Yeah, well,

827
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Speaker 1: I think there's a few things, Jesse.

828
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Speaker 4: I mean, firstly, I hope people buy my book, read

829
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: it and inform themselves. I kind of talk about how

830
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 4: this goes on not just in one area, but in

831
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: a variety of different areas. It's everything from Hollywood to crime,

832
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 4: to healthcare, etc. The military. So I hope people buy

833
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 4: the Unprotected Class, inform themselves about to share it with people.

834
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: At a practical policy level, here's some things I think

835
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: we can do. One is I think we need to

836
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: fundamentally kind of reimagine what civil rights law should look like.

837
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: That's going to be an absolute war with the left.

838
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: But I think as long as we have the current

839
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: very corrupted civil rights regime, we're not going to make

840
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: a lot of progress in terms of addressing these problems. Secondly,

841
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 4: I think we need to get control of the border.

842
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 4: A lot of this is due to an uncontrolled change

843
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 4: in demographics when we have before the nineteen sixty five

844
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 4: hard Seller Bill, this was a much less diverse country.

845
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Also than an.

846
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: Easier contry to govern, because we had more of a

847
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: unified view of what things should look like in this country.

848
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: Now we're just a mess. We've got people here illegally

849
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 4: until you get control of the border, and I would

850
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: argue for going to net zero immigration in addition to

851
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: massive deportation of illegals. But until you do that, it's

852
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 4: very hard to get control of any of these problem.

853
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 4: So I think that's a piece of it. I think

854
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 4: we've got to do aggressive law fare here. I would

855
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 4: really compliment my friends at America First Legal, that is

856
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: Steven Miller's group. I think it's one of the most

857
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: effective groups, if not the most effective, that's come out

858
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: of the Trump administration. They have been doing things to

859
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: Basically they're like blatantly illegal anti policies that corporations that

860
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: universities have been doing in plain in sight, and really

861
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: nobody was challenging them on it until very recently.

862
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: So America.

863
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: First Legal has been suing a lot of these people.

864
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: They're not the only group that's done that, but I

865
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: think they've been the most effective. We need to be

866
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: doing that one hundred x. We need to be going

867
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: back again. I know you're an ex military guy. We

868
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 4: need to borrow the Cold War military concept of mutually

869
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: assured destruction and let the Left know that if they

870
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: come at us, we're going to come back at them

871
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 4: one hundred times more painfully. It's going to be really

872
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: bad for them. And in fact, maybe what we should

873
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: do is get back to a vision of America where

874
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: people are treated equally and respectfully, regardless of their race,

875
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Speaker 4: and we're not advantaging or disadvantaging somebody on the basis

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Speaker 4: of grace.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy, I appreciate her brother. The book is the unprotected class.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have.

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Speaker 2: Light in the mood. Ready to talk women's basketball stuff.

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Speaker 2: You ready to talk women's basketball? We will? Thanks. All right,

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Speaker 2: it's time to lighten the mood.

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00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: And I know it's NCAA tournament time, and let's just

883
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Speaker 1: remember to check in with the experts when we're talking

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Speaker 1: about our brackets.

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Speaker 6: Do you know, Okay, a bit of a history lesson.

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00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 6: Do you know that women were not the women's teams

887
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 6: were not allowed to have brackets until twenty twenty two.

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00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 6: Think about that and what that talk about progress, you know,

889
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 6: better late than ever, but progress and what that has

890
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 6: done because of course, when you know I had a bracket,

891
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 6: it's not broken completely, but I won't talk about my bracket.

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00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 6: But you know what, just how we love we love

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Speaker 6: March madness and even just now allowing the women to

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00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 6: have brackets and what that does to encourage people to

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00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 6: talk more about the women's teams, to watch them now

896
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 6: they're being covered, you know, And this is the reality.

897
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 6: People used to say, oh women's sports, who's interested. Well,

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Speaker 6: if you can't see it, you won't be. But when

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Speaker 6: you see it, you realize, oh

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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow