1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Bill Courtney again with an army of 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: normal folks. Let's continue with part three of our conversation 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: with Sherry Garcia of corn Bread Hustle. Right after these 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: brief messages from our generous sponsors, we now returned to 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Sherry on our volunteer work that led to corn Bread Hustle. 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: So I became Oprah and I was going from transitional 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: health to transition house. You get a job, you get 8 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: a job, you get a job. 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: So you just were going to transition houses making people 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: get jobs. Yeah, but you're not being paid for this? 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: No, because it was so fun. 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: But what are you getting paid to do at this time? 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: At that time, I was just doing pr and barely 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: making it. 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: So you're basically starving and spending all your time, Yeah, 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: helping all these And. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: At this point I was a true alcoholic at this. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Point, this time, you're drinking all day. 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Every day, but giving people jobs. I was very function 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: I was still like, do. 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: You think these guys smelled alcoholic? 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Oh, they knew I was drinking. They didn't care I 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: was helping them. 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Uh, I guess not. 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: They thought I was a funny girl, you know, so 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: they didn't care. 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Plus I was sick of the sushi, like anybody would be. 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will tell you, well, you know what both 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: of them, both guys that I'm thinking of right now, 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: that we had sushi, they still to this day do 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: love sushi. Manjie and Bennie. I'm talking to you. But anyway, 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: they grew to like it. But yeah, at first it. 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Was Benny, you can tell her the truth. Now Benny 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: hates sushi, trust me. So you start going to Halfway 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: House just helping people. 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: I was like, so, what's your dream? What's your dream? 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: What's your dream? Google? And so one morning I woke 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: up and I was just laying in my bed hungover, 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: which was every morning, and I was just like, oh, 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: I don't have money. I'm broke. And I was like, 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: I need a job. And I was like, why don't 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: I give myself. I could give myself a job if 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: I can give all these other people their dream jobs. 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: And so, since I was so fulfilled by it and 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: so passionate, I was like this, I need to figure 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: out a way to monetize this. Now A lot of 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: people ask why didn't you make it a nonprofit? I 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: would not know how to run a nonprofit. I can sell, 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: it's just it's not I can sell ketchup to a 50 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: lady wearing. 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: But what's wrong with having a profitable entity that also 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: helps people? Nothing? 53 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Nothing, nothing at all. 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: I would be completely unapologetic about that. That's just how 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: you roll. 56 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: So fine. I couldn't, like, I don't know how to 57 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: ask somebody for money and not say here's something in return. 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you did. You made the tako and 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: that made no money, so true, maybe you learn from that. 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: So you're laying in bed, you're broke, You've been helping 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: all these people, and you say, I guess where your 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: head is? A staff come? 63 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: So I said, what how do I monetize this? And 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: I went to Google, just like I suggested to all 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: these other guys and girls, and I typed in how 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: to start a staffing agency? And I literally read the 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 2: steps that wiki how said that's it, And I started there. 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: And you start a staffing company from what the top 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Google search told you to do? 70 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: Wiki how week how? 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Of course? 72 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, literatting me right, No I'm not. And everybody that 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: comes to me and says, hey, can I pick your brain? 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: Or how do I do this? And I tell them 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: the wiki how, and I'm sure that they're like, that's rude. No, 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: I did it, you can do it. Read the wiki? 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: How is that how you even say it? 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: We can? When? What now? I? You need? This is 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: six six years ago? 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: And every step on the wiki how. By the way, 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: I had to google again, like it said step one, 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna need a factoring company. You can't afford this, 83 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, Google, what's a factoring company? And 84 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: then I was reading blogs on what factory and even means? 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, so they front you money, you know, 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: like I had to think, like in drug dealing terms, 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: like you're just getting fronted what you need until you 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: get paid and can pay it back. Okay, so how 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: this is six years That was six years ago? 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so six years ago? You start a staffing company 91 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: for I guess specifically to help people that have been. 92 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: Incarcerating second chance staffing AGENTSY a. 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Second chance staffing agency that you wiki howed to get started? 94 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: And you first year, how many people do you place? 95 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: So I don't remember how many people I placed my 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: first year. I know I made several placements, but it 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: was kind of like the luminous envy thing I was 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: trying to like I was the first person to come 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: out and be like, Hey, you want to hire somebody 100 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: with a felony conviction and pay me money? People were like, 101 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: how about I just do you a favor and hire 102 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: somebody with a felony conviction. Isn't that enough? So I 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: was doing it for free for the first year and 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: trying to prove the model work. Yeah, prove it out 105 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: and try to like and you remember, I'm a pr person, 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: so I had to get some people working to use 107 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: those success stories to get on the news. 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that's seed money. I don't know what you call 109 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: it in meth world, but you're I get it. 110 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: But basically, my first few years of growing corn bread hustle, 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: I didn't make a dime because I was spending it 112 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: on alcohol. Even if I did make the money, and 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't running the business the way I wasn't. And 114 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever struggled with anything that 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 2: had you in its grips, I know you're a business 116 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 2: owner if you've ever dealt with something that's really, really, 117 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: really difficult in your life and you're just like I 118 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: just you're just not at I was operating at like 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: twenty percent, Sherry, I get it. 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm what were some staffing agencies provide workers at a 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: forty percent markup? Yes, I do that, okay, and some 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: provide people for a fee to hire. 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: I do both of those. 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: So and I show you're both a headhunter and a 125 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: staffing agency. Yes, right, yes, So at first were you 126 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: headhunting or staffing or both both? And you were proving 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: the model but not really worried about profits because you 128 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: were you had to get you had to have story to. 129 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: Tell, and it was so hard because workmen's think about 130 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: the insurance on business. 131 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: Kidding, That's why I was asking head hunting, you don't 132 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: have to have workers com exactly you're doing. 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Here's another big I wish we could have like a 134 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Dan tip for entrepreneurs. My mistakes here. It is my ego, 135 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: I go big or go home. I wanted to do 136 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: it all big. I wanted to have the workman's comp 137 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to have the insurance. I wanted to be 138 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: the big staffing agency. So I tell anybody wanting to 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: get into this business, be a headhunter, have no overhead, 140 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: get some money in the bank, have anest. 141 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Can then do the staffing. 142 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Come on, but no, my ego every single time. So 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: I was in debt to my Workmen's comp insurance just 144 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: about every month. Imagine going and. 145 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: What kind of markup were you putting on the staffing? 146 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: At first it's forty. 147 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: You were doing forty forty makes sense. Why weren't you 148 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: able to make money? You didn't have an volume. 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: I didn't have enough volume. You gotta have enough volume 150 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: to all the cost. Yeah, and now looking so I 151 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: did it my very first go at it, my first 152 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: couple of hires, now that you're reminding me, I bet 153 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: the guys that said yes and signed the contractor, but 154 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: they were like, what a steal? I was just charging 155 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: a couple of dollars more, Yeah, an hour, and then. 156 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: It really covered your expenses on workers car. 157 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't even have workmen's comp yet. So I 158 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: ended up learning that I could end up losing everything 159 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: if I don't get workmen's comp. So I was like, crap, 160 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Well I got to get Workmen's Comp. 161 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: And then after literally rolling the dice. 162 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: I was I didn't know, I know, I get it. 163 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it happened to wiki whatever it's called. They didn't 164 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: tell you about. 165 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: That part they probably did, and I probably said, well, 166 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: it's not Uh, it wasn't against the law in Texas 167 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: not to have workmen's comp So I was like, live 168 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: on the edge. I'm a wild child right now, I 169 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: will pay act. My biggest expense is insurance. My biggest 170 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 2: expense in my company is insurance, just so I can 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: sleep at night. 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: So I get the first year, yep, tell me about 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: the growth. 174 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: So I end up in twenty seventeen getting that DWI 175 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: as the founder and CEO of Cornbread Hustle. 176 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: That is second year in business. 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: Third that would be the second year in business. 178 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: And that's not good for your business plan. 179 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: You know. I was in the backseat of the cop 180 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: car and I was like, bad PR, this isn't good. 181 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,239 Speaker 2: Like I don't know how to spend. 182 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: This night what I would have been thinking about. But 183 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: I get that now having been with you for an hour, 184 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: bad PR. Yeah, what about the fact that you are 185 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: going to jail. 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh I've been so many times. I knew the process well. 187 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: And you might be able to recruit while you're there. 188 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly I would. I felt invincible. I felt 189 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: like because I had a DWI before and I was 190 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: under twenty one, I blew over and I took it 191 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: to trial and I won. So I just had it 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: in my mind. 193 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: It was probably a bad thing. Frankly, it emboldened you. 194 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: I know, but the judge was trying to do a 195 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: good thing. He didn't want to He knew I wanted 196 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: to be a news reporter and he didn't want it 197 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: to hold me back. I wasn't even twenty one yet, 198 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: and he was like, all right, so. 199 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: This one then your second year of cornbrad hustle. You're 200 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: in the back of a cop car. Would you blow there? 201 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh? I don't remember what exactly I blew, but it 202 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: was enough to make it a misdemeanor A instead of 203 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: a misdemeanor B meaning bad bad. 204 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. So did you spend time in jail? 205 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: Oh? I was out pretty quick. Just I got bailed 206 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: out really fast. 207 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: But what was you to the penalty? 208 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: I did get convicted, even though I was just sure 209 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: that I wouldn't. Until I saw the video. I was 210 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: like my even my attorney was like, yeah, we're not 211 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: going to take this to trial. I was like, yeah, 212 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: is that bad? Yeah, you're wasted. Yeah. So I was like, okay, 213 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: let's take a plea, So I ended up taking a 214 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: plea that brought it down to a misdemeanor bee which 215 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: made the punishment less which were able to drive anymore? Breathalyzer? 216 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 217 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: The thing I had to blow into my car? 218 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Just don't act like everybody listening to us has any 219 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: idea what you're talking about. 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: How does the whole world not know what a breathalyzer is? 221 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: Because the whole world is not an alcoholic and been 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: a methadict since they were a junior in high school. 223 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: Sure, okay, a breathalyzer is a device, a deep lung device. 224 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: Oh, when you hear breath liser, most people think that's 225 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: what cops make you blow in if you get pulled over. 226 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: Oh, well, they make you have one to start your car. 227 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: Right, So this thing they hook up to your car 228 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: and you got to blow in it, and if you 229 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: blow high enough, you can't even start your car, and 230 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: you go to jail because they know, yeah, it records. 231 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they've added cameras because they knew people 232 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: would just have someone else blow for them. 233 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: So this thing's in your car. So now if you're 234 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: going to get around and even try to run your business. 235 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: You can't drink. 236 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 237 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: Is that what made you quit? 238 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: It was so hard? Well, I did not quit for 239 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: a whole year, So the breathalyzer did. I am a 240 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: huge I'm a huge fan of breathalyzers, as inconvenient as 241 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: they are, especially in the heat of the summer, where 242 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: you got to sit there and huff and puff and try, 243 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: and it's not easy to get that thing to go off. 244 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: You're sweating in your car trying to trying to blow 245 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: into that deep lung device, or in the cold every 246 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: second counts, whenever it's one hundred and ten degrees in Texas. 247 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: But I am a big fan of it because what 248 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: it made me I I wasn't willing to quit drinking. 249 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: I still didn't think I had a problem. I didn't 250 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: tell anyone I the arrest, it didn't get out, nobody knew. 251 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: I felt like, I don't know. I wasn't ever going 252 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: to tell anybody, and I was like, well, everyone drinks 253 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: and drives. I just got caught, and it's unfortunate that 254 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm CEO corn Broad Hustle. That's not good. But let's 255 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: just do yeah, let's just sweep this under the rug 256 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: and hope you know, I live happily ever after. But 257 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: having that breathalyzer in my car and trying to make 258 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: alcohol work for me and time, I was timing my 259 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: drinks like I mean, man, I was using science to 260 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: try to figure out how many drinks I could have 261 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: and how long I had to sleep until I could 262 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: get up and blow into the breathalyzer. And there were 263 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: times that I'd drink a little too much the night 264 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: before and have to get an UBER even though my 265 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: card declined and I couldn't even get an uber to 266 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: get to a meeting. So I was really starting to 267 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: realize how alcohol. 268 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Was dominating every piece of your life, every. 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: Piece in my life. I was trying to find a 270 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: way to make it work, and so there were I 271 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: have a in my journal. There's many times that I 272 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: attempted to quit drinking publicly, not even like forever though, 273 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: I you know me, I'm a pr person. So I 274 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: tried to coin the hashtag sobriety ninety and I was 275 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: trying to say, like, okay, ninety days of sobriety, and 276 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: that was me not acknowledging or admitting I'm an alcoholic yet, 277 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: but truly on the inside wanting to quit, and so 278 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: same thing with meth. I'd go a little while without 279 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: alcohol and then drink and then it was horrible or 280 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: I'd have some consequence, whether it. 281 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: Be a I do have a friend that was an 282 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: alcoholic and he would quit, but then when he would 283 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: start back up, it was one drink and that turned 284 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: into a hundred. Yeah. Is that how it was? 285 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, one is too many and one thousand isn't enough. 286 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: It is basically how it is for an alcoholic. 287 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: That's got to be a torment it is. 288 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for the reminder. 289 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's okay, but I'm hearing your story, and I mean, 290 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm starting to empathize with how hard that must have 291 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: been for you. 292 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Think about how hard it is for like like happy 293 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: hours and working in a company, especially for people who 294 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: remain anonymous and who suffer in silence. I shared my 295 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: story out loud to be free of it. But there's 296 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people suffering in silence like I was. 297 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: I was successful. I'm using air quotes because you know, 298 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: you knew my float didn't make any money. But I 299 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: was on the Steve Harvey Show, I invented a product, 300 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: I was in the newsroom, I was vice president of 301 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: a PR firm. 302 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're figuring it out. You were successful. 303 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I lived in a high rise. I had a 304 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: CTSB Cadillac like room room around the city I was. 305 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: I was a socialite. 306 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: A Cadillac had this quo breath liser in it special 307 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: at on. 308 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: That sucked. Yeah, but yes, you know what really sucked 309 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: where I really knew that I had a problem my 310 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: car with the breathalyzer every single month was about to 311 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: get repod And if my car got repolled, then I'm 312 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: going to jail because there went my breathalyzer. Wow. Yeah, 313 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: So I just I had really not come to a 314 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: point where I could admit my life was unmanageable. 315 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 316 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: What happened is I just I was on probation, trying 317 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: to pay probation fees, had no money, trying to run 318 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: this company. I remember once going to a recovery meeting 319 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: air Quotes to support someone else who was trying to 320 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: be sober, because I was holier than that. So looking back, 321 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 2: like me starting this company was just me trying to 322 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: fix other people to avoid fixing myself and to feel 323 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: better about my own situation. It was easy for me 324 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: to help people who were lower than me. Coming out 325 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: of prison, I was like, oh, I help you, I'm awesome. 326 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: But and it was to avoid my own problems. And 327 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: so having that breathalyzer and being on probation and trying 328 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: to get sober made me realize that I had done 329 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: this all wrong, and the only way to really do 330 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: this is to change on the inside out, not from 331 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: the outside in, not to seek validation. I was like 332 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: a piggy bank with a little bit of money. I 333 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: made a lot of noise. I really had nothing. All 334 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: I was doing was making noise. So Christmas comes along, 335 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: and my family they drink during Christmas. We always have, 336 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: and so they were like, Cherry, you've had a hard year. 337 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: Like I blamed everything on entrepreneurship. I was at that 338 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: recovery meeting and I was sharing with everyone like I 339 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: have nothing because I've tried to help all these people 340 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: and build this company. All my money's gone to this company. 341 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: I have nothing. And they're like, and I was like, 342 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: I gave up everything for my company as an entrepreneur, 343 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: you guys know how it is. And one person was like, 344 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: you gave up everything, huh. And they're like, what about alcohol, 345 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 2: and that was like one of those little seeds. Like 346 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: even though I was like whatever, that stuck with me. 347 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: I even remember getting in my car and driving home 348 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: and looking in the passenger seat. I'm homeless at this point, 349 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: by the way, And when I say homeless, like I 350 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: never had to deal with real homelessness. I always had 351 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: friends that let me stay on their couches, so I 352 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: was CouchSurfing, but I did not have a place on 353 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: my own, and all my items were in my car, 354 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: and I look in my passenger seat and I see 355 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: a little four pack of the little wines and I 356 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: was like, I really have given up everything but alcohol 357 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: and so but I didn't stop there. I was like, 358 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: oh well, and kept going on with my life. But 359 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: on Christmas, my family was like, you've had a hard year. 360 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: Just park your car. Because I had the breathalyser still, 361 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: They're like, park your car down the street, just enjoy yourself. 362 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: Kick back. I remember something was different that day. I 363 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: knew I was trying to control my alcohol, like desperately 364 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: wanted to drink like a normal person. So I got 365 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: a twelve pack of Topo Chico and I got to 366 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: handle the Tito's and I was like, I'm gonna drink 367 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: Topo Chico in between my Tito's and so I did that, 368 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: and at the end of the night, everyone in the 369 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: family was pretty drunk, and I felt sober, and I 370 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: drank all twelve bottles of the Topo Chico. I felt 371 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 2: so in control. I was on cloud nine. And I 372 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: remember I got this. You know those Chinese gift exchanges 373 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: that people play, So I got this jellyfish thing. It's 374 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: like a lava lamp, but there's jellyfish in it instead. 375 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: And I was by myself. It was like three in 376 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: the morning. I was the last one to go to sleep. 377 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: I looked at them and I named them Kirby and Oscar. 378 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: I said, Kirby Oscar, if I wake up tomorrow and 379 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: I remember your names and I'm not hungover, I beat it. 380 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem. So I went to bed. 381 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: I woke up, and the second I opened my eyes, 382 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: I had anxiety. And I was like, what the heck. 383 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: So of course, I'm like, well, maybe alcohol is just 384 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: not good. Maybe I have a chemical imbalance. It's just 385 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: not good for me. Like I just didn't understand why 386 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: it was giving me anxiety, And so I was just 387 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 2: tired of it. I was tired of making it fit 388 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: for my life. I was tired of trying to get 389 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: around the breathalyzer. I was tired of it running my life. 390 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: And now it's given me anxiety, like it stopped doing 391 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be doing. It was supposed to 392 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: make me relax. Now it gives me anxiety. And that's 393 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: usually what happens with any drug or substances. Works until 394 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: it doesn't. And so I was the first one awake, 395 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: and I shuffled out into the kitchen and I sat 396 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: down and I looked at that jellyfish thing, and I said, 397 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: Kirby Oscar, I think I'm done drinking. And you know, 398 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: I told the family that morning that I thought, and 399 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: they've seen my sobriety ninety and all that. They were like, cool, 400 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 2: good for you, Yeah, you want a mimosa. And I 401 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: really didn't know that morning that I wouldn't drink again, 402 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: because if I would have, I would have got drunk 403 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: on I would have at least went in. I would 404 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: have like took shots and not went to bed sober. 405 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: If I knew it was going to be my last time. 406 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: But about a week goes by and New Year's Eve 407 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: comes around. I'm the girl, you know, non traditional, So 408 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: of all my alcoholism, I never drink on New Year's 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: Eve because I was like amateurs, you know, like it 410 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: was the one day that I was going to set 411 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: my year with intention. But because I hadn't drank since 412 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: Christmas Day, hard day for me, and because I felt 413 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: like I couldn't but wanted it, so I decided to 414 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: go to church. I had no interest in church whatsoever. 415 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: I just needed to not be in the house. I 416 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: had a really hard time when I first got sober, 417 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: those hours from five pm and nine pm. What am 418 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: I gonna do? So I was like church, they won't 419 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: serve alcohol, They're boring. So I'll go to church. They'll 420 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: have music, maybe they'll have food. It's New Year's Eve. 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: I was just going for free entertainment and free food. 422 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: And so I go into the church and I didn't 423 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: understand worship. I felt like, man, these people. First of all, 424 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 2: I drove into the parking lot and the parking lot 425 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: was full. It was absolutely full, And I was like, 426 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: why does this many people want to come to church 427 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve? Like I'm here because I have 428 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: a problem. How do people want to be here? 429 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: And so I did share news flash everybody has problems. 430 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: Oh that's another news flash for today. Yeah. So I 431 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: go and I stand there and everyone has their hands 432 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: in the air they're worshiping, and I was like, man, 433 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: these people must really need something to believe in bad 434 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: because I didn't understand worship, just didn't get it. I 435 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: knew that there was probably a god. Really, there was 436 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: a God for me if it was convenient for me. 437 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: If I was hanging out with an atheist, I'd be like, yeah, 438 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: probably not. If I'm hanging out with a believer, I'm 439 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: like yeah probably. That's how I was about the God thing, 440 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: indifferent unless I was desperate. So a song comes on though, 441 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: and it was come Alive, Dry Bones, and it was 442 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 2: talking about dry bones. And I always hear I always 443 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: heard people talk about the Holy Spirit, but I experienced it. 444 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Tears just came down my face and I felt this 445 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: feeling inside like I'm dead inside, I'm I have dry bones, 446 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: like I didn't even realize it. And just something happened 447 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: that night and the pastor gets up and he was like, hey, everyone, 448 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: this is really random, and my wife is gonna kill me, 449 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: and my staff is going to kill me. But the 450 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: Holy Spirit just led me to say something crazy, Let's 451 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: have church every day for the next seven days to 452 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: really set the year off right. And so I was like, 453 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: that is crazy, that's a bit much. But I said 454 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 2: to myself, but that's seven more days sober. And so 455 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: I went to church every day for seven days, and 456 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: somebody gifted me a Bible, and I guess there was 457 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: another holy spirit moment where I was up doing my 458 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: hair getting ready for work, and something told me to 459 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: go look in my Bible. And it was like a 460 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: serious tug to go look in the Bible. And I 461 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: was like, I literally I was about to start like googling, 462 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: like hearing things after alcoholism. It was very powerful. And 463 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: I walked into my bedroom and saw that my Bible 464 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: wasn't there, and then I walked back into the bathroom 465 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: because I was like, I'm not going downstairs. But the 466 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: voice got louder and it was more aggressive, and so 467 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: I was like fine. I walked downstairs, literally in my towel, 468 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: my hair half wet, and I said, God, if you're there, 469 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: because I felt like I felt like a crazy person. 470 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: I said, if I I did the whole New Christian thing. 471 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 2: If I open up this Bible and whatever I point to, 472 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: if you're talking to me, I'm gonna know it. And 473 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: let's just settle this once and for all. Show me 474 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: that you're real. And so I opened up the Bible 475 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: and I closed my eyes and I pointed my finger, 476 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 2: and I looked down and it was Proverbs twenty and 477 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 2: it said wine is a mocker and beer is a brawler, 478 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: and whoever is led by it is astray. And I 479 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: was so angry. I threw my Bible at the wall 480 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: and I started crying and almost like help me, then, 481 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: help me, just help me then, because I was crying 482 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: in gas station parking lots, trying not to go in 483 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: and drink. And of course it was hard, it was 484 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: hard to stay sober. But God carried me since then, 485 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: and I never missed a Sunday of church unless I'm sick, 486 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: of course or whatever. But I never missed a Sunday 487 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: of church since then. I've been in the Word every 488 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: morning since then. And God, just like it says in 489 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: Romans twelve, completely transformed my mind and my heart. Like 490 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: in my sleep every single night would go in and 491 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: like do surgery in my heart and my brain, and 492 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: I'd wake up a different person every single day, and 493 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 2: it's unexplainable. And I started leading people the way I 494 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: needed to be led what I needed, and I kept 495 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: I was telling people sorry, and I've I've set the 496 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: path the wrong way. Like, it's not about success, it's 497 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: not about money. It's about the inside. It's about who 498 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: you are on the inside. It's about finding that peace. 499 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: It's about healing these wounds. It's about recognizing your triggers 500 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: and toxic relationships and so cornbread hustle. I was about 501 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: a year sober, a hard year, Like just because you 502 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: get sober doesn't mean the consequences go away. One day 503 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: I walked out in the church parking lot and I 504 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: was so I started crying so hard because I was like, 505 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 2: how is my car gonna get repolled from church? 506 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: Like I was so upset and I get repaid from church? 507 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: Dude. I got on the phone, I'm crying to my friend. 508 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, my car from church? How do I get? 509 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: I get? This is how God thanks me. My car 510 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 2: gets repolled. And then I walked around the corner. I 511 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: just forgot where I part. 512 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: That's funny. 513 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: So I was like hard, but yeah, I still had 514 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: to face the consequences of not having money and getting 515 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: my life together while trying to get sober, while navigating 516 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: all these feelings. 517 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: While trying to get this SPECIs going. 518 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: While trying to keep the business alive and get it going. Yes, 519 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: horrible again, Like would I change anything? No? Would I 520 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: go live it again? Kill me? I don't want to 521 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: live it again. 522 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 523 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: So I was one year sober, and it was let's 524 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: see twenty nineteen, because I got sober Christmas Day. I 525 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: got sober Christmas Day of twenty eighteen, so it was 526 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I was one year sober. Remember what happened 527 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. 528 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: Covid uh huh? So where everybody's sitting around in their 529 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: house drinking because I got nothing else to do. 530 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet that was fun for you, so much fun. 531 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: But it actually I got to use my thriving chaos 532 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: resilience skills and traits that I have because when I 533 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: kept hearing on the news that everyone's going to lose 534 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: their jobs and I just finally made it to break even. 535 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: I probably had twenty employees. I just made it to 536 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: break even. I was like, there's no way. The disease 537 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: of alcoholism and addiction almost took me out. I'm not 538 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: letting a virus take me out. Uh uh not? After 539 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 2: I got one year sober, So I went to Google, 540 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, my friend Google, and I looked up every 541 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: single thing that I possibly could about killing the coronavirus 542 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: and what type of disinfectant. I know everything about disinfectant. 543 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: It's wild, like which like if you you should get 544 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: lysol instead of chlorox And I got electro what was 545 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: it electrostatic? 546 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, electrostatic machines. 547 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: I bought those like I was in a hurry to 548 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 2: get everything that I needed. I bought hazmat suits and 549 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: I put out an email blast to all twenty of 550 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: my employees and I was like, fear not, we are 551 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: gonna work. Are y'all in? And they're like yeah. I 552 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: was like, we have to. We gotta figure it out. 553 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: And I wasn't gonna turn. 554 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Around if y'all don't work. My car is getting repoked 555 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: from church. We gotta work. 556 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna work. 557 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: And so work or I'm can you all sushi? 558 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 2: So well, yeah, we won't be able to. So I 559 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: created CBH disinfecting dot com and just use the people 560 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: that I was placing for the staffing agency to be available. 561 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: I trained them like everything. We had Osha come in. 562 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: We did everything to like really so. 563 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Use your staffing agency. Did then go do disinfectant on companies? 564 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Yes, And because because everybody was so afraid of coronavirus, 565 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: like deathly afraid of it, Like it's in the air 566 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: and if it touches you, you might like evaporate. Like 567 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: remember how scared people were of it. Yeah, we weren't. 568 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: We're like, oh, well, we're gonna die if we don't 569 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: have jobs. Like I had been through so much like whatever, 570 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: Like I'll wear the hazmat suit. I was literally cleaning 571 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: toilets in a hazmat suit to get corn bread hustle 572 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: to where it's at today. 573 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: The joys of ownership and if you are eighty five 574 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: percent of startups in the United States are bankrupt within 575 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: the first thirty six months. The success rate of businesses 576 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: is in the fifteen to twenty percent sustained businesses. And 577 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: in my book, I talk about the value of hard 578 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: work and the difficulty of starting a business. But what 579 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: you just said, I've done the same thing here in 580 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: my business. I have done whatever I had to do legally, morally, ethically, 581 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: but beyond that, whatever I had to do. And we're 582 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: going to find out in a second, how many people 583 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: you have on the payroll this year, but only two 584 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: years ago you were cleaning toilets and a hazmat suit 585 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: and somebody else's office just to keep your business afloat 586 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: two years ago. And how many people did you place 587 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: this year? 588 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: We're at about a thousand people a year now. Yeah. 589 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Do you know how phenomenal that story is? Do you 590 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: really get it? I know you're living it. 591 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: I am. 592 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: You had twenty people and hasmat suit washing toilets two 593 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: years ago, and these thousand people are one hundred percent 594 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: x fos. 595 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: Most of them. We don't discriminate. We don't tell you 596 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: go rob a bank and come back and see. 597 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: It, okay, but the vast majority of them are. And 598 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: your entire start came. 599 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: From everything what I just told you, I laid it 600 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: all out. 601 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, came from helping Benny. 602 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Uh huh. Yeah. So guess what happened during the month 603 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: of like, during that first month of us doing disinfecting, 604 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: what we made one hundred thousand dollars because essential businesses 605 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: were so afraid to not be in production that they 606 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: were going to do whatever it took, and we were 607 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: in high demand, and nobody else was crazy enough to 608 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: risk their life like my family. They were like, Sherry, 609 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: you don't need to risk your damn life over money, 610 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: and I was like, it's not for money, it's for 611 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: my business. It's for the people that I gave hope 612 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: to and gave jobs to. I have to do this. 613 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: If I die, I die, I die doing what I love. 614 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna die regardless. Because if I knew that, if 615 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: COVID took me out after that hard first year of 616 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: getting sober, I don't know if I would have stayed sober, 617 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: I would have been like, you know what, this is 618 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: for the birds. So I just knew I had to 619 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: do what I had to do. So we made a 620 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: hundred k in how many months? In that one month? 621 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: One month? 622 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we generated one hundred k. So it was 623 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: an oil filled paid us a lot of money to 624 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: go all the way out to Midland to keep the 625 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: oil filled. 626 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: Going because they were quote essential yeah yeah, and all 627 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: Field can afford to pay whatever to some people. And 628 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: ask my suits to clean the toilet. Yeah, and we 629 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: did it because everybody knows that COVID was living in 630 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: the toilets. 631 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: Well, the toilets were one of the areas we had 632 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 2: to clean. I got to clean desks too, but toilets 633 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: was the more traumatizing. 634 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Imagine. 635 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: But that one hundred thousand dollars that did was allow 636 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: me to stop doing side pr gigs. I was straddling, 637 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: like I was trying to you. 638 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: You were able to walk away and put your whole 639 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: time and all my time. 640 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: And then corn Bread Hustle And then this is the 641 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: part that I wish I could take credit for and 642 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: that I wish that it was strategic on my part, 643 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: but I was just as surprised as anybody else in 644 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 2: my company. But our phone started ringing off the hook. 645 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 2: This is where I almost start to cry again, because 646 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: it's all God, our phones were ringing off the hook. 647 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: And corn Bread Hustle became the staffing agency that every 648 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: company needed to come to because everybody was on unemployment. 649 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: And guess who is not eligible for unemployment People coming 650 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: out of prison because they have no work history. Yeah, 651 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: so my company did a million dollars that year. 652 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now You're off to the races. 653 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 2: And then five million the next year. 654 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a phenomenal story. 655 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm not as profitable as I'd like to be, but 656 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: the profit margins are better than the taco. 657 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: Sherry it is. I mean, I am. I'm honestly. Every 658 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: single time I sit down across the table from someone 659 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: and we start talking about an army of normal folks 660 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: and we dive into people's lives and what they've done, 661 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: the stories are always phenomenal, but yours as crazy. You 662 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: were a I mean, it seems like a B movie 663 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: that was done for less than a million dollars, But 664 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: like the meth cheerleader chick movie. I mean, you kicked meth, 665 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: you kicked alcohol. You overcame your demons about not going 666 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: to college and being successful in all of that, And 667 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: in the middle of all of it, you decided you 668 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: were going to volunteer to help some felons. And a 669 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: guy named Benny who you don't know from Adam. You 670 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: google it up. He now owns his own sign company 671 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: and is making six figures. And in the middle of 672 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: all of it, you found faith. You kicked a meth habit, 673 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: you kicked an alcohol habbit. And now you employ a 674 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: thousand people in a business doing five million dollars. 675 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: This year, I only did three. We had a bad year, 676 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: but just for transparency reasons. 677 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's still a phenomenal, amazing store. Worry 678 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: and how old are you? 679 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: Thirty six? So I just turned thirty six. 680 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. We can do next year. Please 681 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: don't say more tacos, because that's not no more tacos. 682 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: But I did develop a twelve week starting over program 683 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: where it's me talking directly across from a camera for 684 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: literally seven hours and I'm talking. It's like I am 685 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: sitting right there with you, sharing my pain and my vulnerability, 686 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: so you can work through your stuff at the same 687 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: time and right now sorright for. 688 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: A guy getting out of a lady or man getting 689 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: out of jail. This is a twelve step program to 690 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: get yourself employable. 691 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve week program. 692 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, twelve week not only. 693 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: To get yourself employable. That's the last week. That's like, oh, 694 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: by the way, you might need a job. Because I 695 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: wanted to undo everything that I had started with, which 696 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 2: was here's a job. You'll find some worth in having 697 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: a job, and everything will follow that doesn't work. It 698 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: didn't work for me, So I do the whole first 699 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: nine weeks at least of learning how to love yourself 700 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: and recognize toxicity and recognize your own triggers and how 701 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: you can find your higher power. So that's kind of 702 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: how I I guess in my own way. It helped 703 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: me process a lot. And it's literally it's me saying, hey, 704 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 2: it's week two. I know it was really hard, Like 705 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: I tell them, I'm doing this with them. So it 706 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 2: is currently in nine different prisons right now on tablets, 707 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: and it's a pilot program and the results have been 708 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: so good that I'm flying out to Phoenix next week 709 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: to meet all the inmates who have completed it. So 710 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: that's I'm not selling it yet. I wanted to collect 711 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: all the data because I want to believe in what 712 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm selling and set the price. And an inmate will 713 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: never pay for it, by the way, just like okay, 714 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: So there's there's plenty of organizations that can definitely afford 715 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 2: to put this program in prisons because I can't just 716 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 2: sit around and make sure job. 717 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: As the government does quote rehabbing, maybe they can come 718 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: up with some funds for something like that. That's a 719 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: great story. 720 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. So that yeah, it's in there. And just 721 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: last Monday, I did a three hour workshop for two 722 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: hundred men in a prison gym. So there's not like 723 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: that's where the future is taking me. A lot more 724 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: in prison stuff, a lot more twelve weeks starting Over program, 725 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: and it's really so. I have a client in Arizona 726 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: that hires from US direct hire, and our twelve week 727 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 2: Starting Over program is in the Arizona prisons as a pilot. 728 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 2: Right now, we keep having people call us to get 729 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: a job that aren't in prison because of the word 730 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: of the word and mouth of everyone in prison calling 731 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: their friends outside of prison saying corn Bread Hustle has jobs. 732 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 2: So it's been like it's also a lead magnet for 733 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: us to bring us qualified applicants. So a lot of 734 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 2: staffing agencies have to use Indeed we don't because we're 735 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: literally inside all of the prisons helping them develop some 736 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: soft skills and love themselves and have hope before they 737 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: get out. They know who to call. Call corner. You 738 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: can call your drug dealer, you can call your dope 739 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: dealer and get back in the game, or you can 740 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: call corn Bread Hustle it's up to you, but you 741 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: will know about corn bread hustle before you get out 742 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: of prison. And if we don't have a job for you, 743 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: we can help you, just like I helped Binny. We 744 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 2: know how to help you find a job. We can 745 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: help you. It's hard to scale. That's been my biggest challenge, 746 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: and you know that growing the big company that you've grown. 747 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 2: I don't know what your biggest challenges have been, but 748 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 2: for me, I would starting up was the hardest thing ever. 749 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to go back to that, but I would. 750 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: Starting it's so hard. It's so hard, but scaling second hardest. 751 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: Like I didn't realize, Like when I was starting up, 752 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: I dream of the day that I was doing a 753 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: million a year, Like I couldn't even fathom it. But 754 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's more money, more problems, and I don't 755 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 2: have a problem getting business in the door. I have 756 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: to make sure I'm leading my internal team right and 757 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 2: that I'm scaling this right in operations and filing taxes 758 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: and you know all that stuff that a cheerleader meth 759 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: dealer probably doesn't have a lot of experience in, right. 760 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the I'm gonna do more of consulting 761 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: and just being inside the prisons. And God keeps changing 762 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 2: me every single day. One thing that really really God literally, 763 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 2: I know God didn't break my heart. My heart broke 764 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: and God made it softer. So my dad I did 765 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: get to. He was sober the last year of his 766 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: life because he had an open heart surgery and I 767 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: was taking care of him a lot, and I'd go 768 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 2: to my dad's house every single night and just talk 769 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 2: with him and sit with My dad was funny. He 770 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: was a funny guy and I loved him so much. 771 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 2: And his mom lived with him because she has some 772 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: special needs and she has dementia, and so I'd go 773 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: there and eat with them every evening. They did live 774 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: in a house hoarding pretty much, but I didn't care. 775 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: That's It's like Belle from Beauty and the Beast. All 776 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: she wanted to do was like hang out with her 777 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: crazy inventive dad. That was me. I want to read 778 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: books and hang out with my inventive dad. And just 779 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 2: one morning he died and I had to go and 780 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: do the whole deal. Like I showed up and the 781 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: cops were there to tell me that he's gone, and 782 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 2: I guess he had had a heart attack and wow, 783 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: like that was crazy because I had just I literally 784 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 2: because I didn't know how to face all that. I 785 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: worked harder that day than I ever worked. I was 786 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: doing a zoom call while my dad's body was willing 787 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: behind me, closing a deal. It was. I even went 788 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: and did a speech that night to people who had 789 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: just got out of prison, looking back, like come on why, 790 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 2: Like I could have canceled that speech, but I needed 791 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: to do something I didn't know how to. I mean, 792 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: my dad was my and I still cry all the 793 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: time over my dad's death. I always told people if 794 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: I ever relapse, it will be because my dad dies. 795 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: And then my dad died, and then I didn't relapse, 796 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: and it did make me stronger because I lost like 797 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: the love of my life, and so I know now 798 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: that I can do anything. But I became instantly a caregiver, 799 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 2: and I had this house now to make livable, and 800 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: so for a whole year I was a caregiver while 801 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 2: growing this business with my grandma. We have a whole 802 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: bunch of funny videos we made together, and I made 803 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: the best of it the best that I could. But 804 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: here's this hardened heart workaholic that doesn't know vulnerability put 805 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: in a caregiver, so that that was difficult, but it 806 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: really just it just changed my life even more. And 807 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 2: I know that God has a plan, and I started 808 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 2: I did start living, you know. I went to my 809 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: dad's house every single day after work like I wasn't. 810 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't living my life because I was just wanted 811 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: to spend time with my dad and my dad wasn't 812 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: healthy mentally or physically. So I was holding on to 813 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 2: somebody that wasn't there anymore because he just it was, 814 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 2: he just changed. He just wasn't there anymore. But I 815 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: was hanging on And I always had this dream that 816 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 2: he'd hold a sign that said one year sober and 817 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 2: mine said like three years sober. But he just didn't 818 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 2: make it. But everything really worked out. 819 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: Are you Are you more proud of your company or. 820 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 2: Your sobriety my sobriety because it was harder, it is harder. 821 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: Is it still hard? 822 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm? 823 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: What do you say to people that are listening to 824 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: us today that are struggling with the grip? 825 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 2: So I know a lot of people who are struggling 826 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 2: because they reach out to me for the past several 827 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 2: years and keep trying and trying and trying. I would say, 828 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: the common denominator of all of these people is not 829 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 2: willing to let strangers pour into their like the surrender 830 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: part like and I never like. I'm just now learning 831 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 2: to fully surrender and I still don't do it perfect. 832 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 2: But me so, I was six months sober with so 833 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 2: much pride. It took me to be in six months sober, 834 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 2: and I became suicidal. I almost killed my because too much. 835 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: It's up. You told me earlier. You were hearing voices. 836 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean clearly the withdraws were killing you. 837 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 2: It was because I was unwilling to go into a 838 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 2: recovery group. Yeah, I thought that I was different, I 839 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: was unique. My situation is different. Every day is like 840 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 2: a recovery group. The job I work, I work with 841 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: addicts every day. Why do I need these people to 842 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 2: help me stay sober? So pride, I would say, is 843 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 2: the common denominator of people that I'm working with right 844 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: now that keep having a hard time getting it, not 845 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: just just And that's what I had to do was 846 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 2: get humble and sit down and listen to people and 847 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: take suggestions and the other thing that was very hard 848 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 2: when I first got sober, I couldn't hang out with 849 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 2: anybody I was hanging out with anymore. 850 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: Because you got to change your group. 851 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 2: I had zero interest in church people or people who 852 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 2: didn't drink or do drugs because they seem so boring. 853 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 2: So I was lonely for a long time. So it took. 854 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 2: Now I don't have a single person I hang around 855 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: that drinks, and if they do, it's shocking. I'm like, 856 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 2: oh wow, oh alcohol, that's weird. So my whole life 857 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 2: has changed, and it does get better. My life is 858 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 2: the best it's ever been. Ever like, my life today 859 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: is the best it's ever been. I hear from other 860 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: people who have ten years sober that it keeps getting better. 861 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: So I hope it keeps getting better. But I have 862 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: peace that surpasses all understanding. I talk with God every 863 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 2: single mor I don't just talk with God. I listen 864 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 2: to God. That's how I've run my business. God gave 865 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: me the idea for the disinfecting thing. God gives me that. 866 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,760 Speaker 2: God gave me every the twelve week Starting Over program, 867 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 2: I completely ad libbed every eight hours of it in 868 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 2: front of the camera. I didn't use a script, and 869 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 2: I didn't re edit anything. Is just straight from my heart, 870 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: straight from heaven, and so I run my business through 871 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: the Bible period and without Bible thumbing, you know what 872 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean. Like, I don't go to work every day 873 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: telling people's scripture. You know. I just let people. 874 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: See you telling anybody anything, you just let them see it, 875 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 1: isn't you. 876 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the. 877 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,280 Speaker 1: Way you operate. 878 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's it. That's my story. And I've never 879 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 2: shared all of that, So I'm not gonna do well, 880 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 2: we got it on tape a single other podcast, because 881 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell anybody that wants to do a podcast, 882 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 2: just just go to this podcast, pull the audio, put 883 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 2: your voice in the front of it, and at the 884 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 2: end of it. 885 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: That's illegal. We won't let them do that. My contact 886 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: information Alex the producer's contact information, and every guest we 887 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: have have given our listeners contact information, because there may 888 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: be somebody out there that says, I would love to 889 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: be hired by Cornbread Hustle, or I would love to 890 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: work for Cornbread Hustle, or I would like to talk 891 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: about doing something in my community, or even tell me 892 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: about this prison entrepreneurship program, something that they've heard might 893 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: and sent them to get involved in their own unique way, 894 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: and if they want to understand more of that, what's 895 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: the best way to reach out to you and your 896 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: organization so you'll see it. 897 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 2: So obviously simple cornbread Hustle dot com. But I'm happy 898 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 2: to give my email It's Sherry C. H Ri I 899 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 2: at Cornbread Hustle dot com. Or if you want to 900 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 2: continue to see content or connect with me. LinkedIn is 901 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 2: where I share a lot a lot of videos weekly 902 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 2: and what is just your name? Yeah, just Sherry Garcia. 903 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 2: That we didn't get into that, but that whenever I 904 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 2: finally came out about my sobriety, I got on LinkedIn 905 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 2: and I shared with LinkedIn to professional people that I 906 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: had a breathalyiser in my car. 907 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: This from a PR person, whatever, it's not surprising at 908 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: all you did that. That's pretty amazing. 909 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 910 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there it is. If you want to contact 911 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: her or her organization, that's how you get in touch 912 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 1: with share Garcia. Share Garcia from a metho addicted high 913 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: school cheerleader to a business owner, a born again Christian 914 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: and somebody who's found a way to make a living 915 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: while helping others. That is an amazing story and there's 916 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: no way that you cannot be included in the army 917 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,479 Speaker 1: of normal folks. Just a normal girl with all kinds 918 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: of struggles who's overcome them to make an amazing life 919 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: for herself and those in our orbit. And I am 920 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 1: very impressed by you and I can't thank you enough 921 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: for sharing your story with us. 922 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. I have one request, and what is it? 923 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: When y'all put all these ads out, can you not 924 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 2: make it so myth cheerleader? 925 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not. We're not. We don't do this is 926 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: not dateline. We're not going to do the sensationalized your 927 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 1: So okay. We didn't name this Meth Cheerleader episode out 928 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: of respect for SHARE's request. But I had a blast 929 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: with her. She was a lot of fun and most importantly, 930 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: she is one incredible inspirational human being. And I hope 931 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: she's inspired you. And if she or another guest has 932 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: inspired you to take action, please let us know. I 933 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: want to hear about it. You can write me anytime 934 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: at Bill at normalfolks dot us. And if you enjoy 935 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: this episode, subscribe to the podcast, rate it, review it, 936 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: share of friends, and on social all the things that 937 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: will help us grow an army of normal folks. I'm 938 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: Bill Courtney. Look forward to seeing you next week.