1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: It's our two on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: It's Dan Patrick's show. We'll check in with Mike Silver, 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: the athletic columnist, and he had a lengthy article, a 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: deep dive on the Raiders situation and Max Crosby's future. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: There he'll join us, coming up Jay Glazer next hour. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: He'll give us some thoughts on Aaron Rodgers' future, also 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: some of the other quarterbacks and where they might be headed. 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: Eight seven seven to three DP Show email address DP 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: at danpatrick dot Com Twitter handle. A DP show stat 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: of the day brought to you by Panini America, the 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. And we'll 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: have a new poll question here for hour two and 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: we uh, we'll get to your phone calls as well. Seatan, 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: would you give me an update on the Hey Todd, 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: what are you doing in here? Did you forget to 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: give me some paperwork? Okay? All right? Uh, Seatan, what's 19 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: the poll question for? Well, we'll clean up our two? 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Are our one and moved our two? This is the 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: lou Holtz pole question. When you are putting your pants on, 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: you do left leg first, right leg first, two and 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: jump or need a fulcrum? Are your options right now? 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: Left leg first has about fifty seven percent of that vote, 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: followed by right leg first, the two and jump aka 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: the Paul Pabst has four point one percent. That's about 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: forty people. My people, Todd and the need a fulcrum 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: crew that's at about. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: A dozen people. Yeah, I'm gonna need to see both 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: of you guys in action getting into your respective pants. 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Need a full crumb. Some of the headlines here the 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: Patriots have moved on from Stefan Diggs, the Rams pick 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: up Trent McDuffie the defensive back from the Chiefs, and 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Lou Holtz passing away at the age of eighty nine. 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: I've been talking about the Raiders a lot, and much 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: to the chagrin of Raiders, because I've been talking about 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: you're going to draft Fernando Mendoza. Just don't recreate what 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: happened with the Colts with Andrew luck where they didn't 39 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: have a good offensive line for a while and then 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: by the time they did he was ready to retire. 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: But Mike Silver has an article. He is a senior 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: national writer for The Athletic and this has to do 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: with Max Crosby and Max's future. Max was not happy 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: when he was I don't think he was a healthy scratch, 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: but he did want to play. In those last two games, 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: the Raiders wanted to make sure that they were tanking. 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: They wanted to make sure they got Fernando Mendoza. Well, 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: mission accomplished. But what's the future of Max Crosby. Michael 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: silver Back on the program, Mike, good to talk to 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: you again. If you were going to sum up the 51 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: state of the Raiders, how would you do that in 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: a couple of sentences, I'll. 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: Do it even quicker. They're a mess and damn that's 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 4: usually the case when a team goes four and thirteen 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: and three and fourteen, fires coaches after each season. But yeah, 56 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: in this case, they don't have a lot of valuable 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: trade assets. They're obviously in need of a rebuild, and 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: so just on paper, taking the emotion out of it, 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense to think about trading Max Crosby. 60 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: They're asking for a Micah Parsons like Hall. I think 61 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: that's probably a little ambitious, But there are many teams 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: trying to get Max Crosby, and he's getting older. He 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: would be going on his sixth head coach if you 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: count Rich Pasacio, who had a long interim stint, and 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: you know, he definitely wants out of there. So you know, 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: in some ways this is a simple equation. He wants 67 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: to go. They need assets and to get younger. We'll 68 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: see if they pull the triggers soon or if this 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: tracks on a little bit. 70 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Okay, give me the teams at the front of the 71 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: line for Max. 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not exactly sure which teams. My colleague 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: Diana Rossini has been all over this, and I'm sure 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: she will be at the forefront, you know, in the 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: coming days. I know that it makes sense for Max 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: Crosby that he wants to go to a team that 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: has a chance to contend, something that has not been 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: the case during his Raiders' tenure. They did sneak into 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: the playoffs during that interim Basata year. Other than that, 80 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: it's been rough. But you know, I look at teams 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: like say, the Patriots, the Ravens. There's been a lot 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: of talk about the Bears. I think the Cowboys, who 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: have signaled their willingness to be aggressive, you know, coming 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: off of the Parsons trade, and then going out and 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: getting Quinn Williams would be a team that I'd look at. 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: But you know, it's not like he has veto power, 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: you know, he could he could threaten to retire if 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: it was another situation that he thought was pretty desperate. 89 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: I thought the Raiders might be working with him and 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: his agent a little, you know, more blatantly here and 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: trying to find a spot. Their attitude seems to be, hey, 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: we're just going to take the best deal, so we'll 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: see how it plays out. 94 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: And the Raiders are set on Mendoza correct, no matter yes, 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: what they're offered. 96 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: You know, I think if the Jets wanted to do 97 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: something insane right and give up tons and tons of capital, 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 4: they would listen for sure. And the Jets are setting 99 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 4: it too, so that probably makes the most sense. So 100 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: I would say Mendoza no matter what, assuming they you know, 101 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: are set on drafting somebody. You could make a case 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: if they're offered something massive they would listen. But yeah, 103 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: I would strongly expect Mendoza to be the guy. And 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: you know, they have a chance to try to do 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: what they should have done last year and be on 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: about their situation, you know, build it back up and 107 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: and try to do it in a more organic way. 108 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: Last year was trying to split the difference, and we 109 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: saw how that worked out. 110 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: How did the Raiders get here? 111 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: You know, it starts at the top ten And I 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: obviously covered Al Davis really closely. You know, got banned 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: from the facility and from the locker room on several occasions. 114 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: It was not you know, it was not milk and honey. 115 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: But you know, I always had so much respect for 116 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Al Davis being one of the icons of football and 117 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: obviously had a lot of football knowledge. There were organizational 118 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: issues that you know, kept them from being able to 119 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: recapture that past glory. And really since since that two 120 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: thousand and two run to the Super Bowl, they've only 121 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 4: been in the playoffs twice and have not won a 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: playoff game. So, you know, that whole Raider commitment to 123 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: excellence thing that that is a relic and a lot 124 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: of young people have no idea what those slogans would 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: possibly stand for. You know, Mark Davis was not a 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: football icon. He was like many next generation owners, just 127 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: kind of you know, born into it. He's tried to 128 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 4: find his way. So I do think it starts at 129 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: the top the column I wrote, The Athletic explores some 130 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 4: of the other dysfunction in that building. And now you 131 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: have Mark Davis doing something which on paper, I think 132 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: most people would agree is an exciting thing. He's turning 133 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: to Tom Brady, one of the most ruthless competitors and 134 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: greatest winners I've ever seen in Andy Sport, and saying, Tom, 135 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: you're a minority owner, give me the blueprint. But Brady's 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: not there. He's working for Fox, He's living at Florida, 137 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: as is his prerogative. He's got Alex Grrero, who's someone 138 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: he's close to in the building as the wellness coordinator, 139 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: but sounds like Alex Carrero from talking to players and 140 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: coaches and other people in that building, is you know, 141 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: presenting himself as someone far more powerful. He's certainly perceived 142 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: as a guy who will go running to Brady with 143 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: any anything he sees or hears, and that does not 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: seem to be a great environment. And it's part of 145 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: the equation when it comes to Max Crosby's desire to 146 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: get out of there. 147 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: But Tom Brady is running the raiders. 148 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 4: I mean, Mark Davis said it. You know, that's kind 149 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: of what we all believed last year, and then when 150 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: they fired Pete Carroll, Mark Davis issued a statement and 151 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: said general manager John Spytek will lead this search in 152 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: all football operations with Tom Brady. So you know, you've 153 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: got a first time general manager in Spytek who's working hard, 154 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: trying to do a tough job. But it's you know, 155 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: Mark David came out and said Tom Brady's doing it too. 156 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: So again, on paper, that's exciting Tom Brady. You know, 157 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: I've seen him defy odds and galvanize people around him 158 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: in a way that is mind boggling. And you know, 159 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: I think it's just hard in the NFL for us, 160 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: you know, watching this from the outside to think, you know, 161 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: someone could do that from afar. And I can't tell 162 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: Tom Brady how to live his life. He's getting paid 163 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: a lot of money to be a broadcaster, he's a father, 164 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: he's you know, got a residence across the country. But 165 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: you know, I think what's hard for people in that 166 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: building is when somebody is going around kind of acting like, hey, 167 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm the pipeline to Tom, but doesn't have those credentials 168 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: on the football side. That's that's kind of a recipe 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: for confusion. 170 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: He's Michael Silver, senior national writer for The Athletic. Before 171 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: I let you go, I was always wondering about this. 172 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: It felt like Brady was a mentor to Shodoor Sanders, 173 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: that Dion had asked Tom to kind of help Shadoor. 174 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: And then Tom's in a position to draft shoeddor Sanders 175 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: on a team that needed a quarterback or maybe develop 176 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: a quarterback, and they didn't. They passed over Shador, you know, 177 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: every single round there. It just seemed strange that Tom 178 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: knew Shador He's in a position to draft Shoedoor and 179 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: didn't pull the trigger on that. 180 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: Why well, you know, that goes back to the is 181 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: Tom all in or is Tom not all in? If 182 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: I recall Tom's comment after didn't get drafted was kind 183 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: of like, yo, I'm not in charge of that, and 184 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: so you know again, and that may be true and 185 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: well meaning, right Tom at the time might have been like, hey, look, 186 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: I'm not going to come in and try to be 187 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: the overlord of this organization. I'm going to let John 188 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 4: Spike and Pete Carroll on my football people do what 189 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: they think is best. You know, Now it seems to 190 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: be more blatant. Mark Davis is coming out and saying it, 191 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: so you kind of have to own it. But yeah, 192 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: I think Dan that goes back to everything that we're 193 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 4: talking about. Is Tom Brady actually all in? Is he 194 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: running it? What message are people inside the building getting 195 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: about the power structure and the vision and how it's 196 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 4: playing out. So it's probably a positive development that Mark 197 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: Davis tried to spell it out and that, you know, 198 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: and that they have a coach who they in Surry 199 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: can try to build something with. And I love Pete Carroll. 200 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: He's literally one of the greatest coaches of his generation. 201 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: I think he's the Hall of Fame. So I don't 202 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: want to in any way say that hiring Pete Carroll, 203 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 4: you know, was a negative, but it kind of flew 204 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: in the face of what their situation was, given his 205 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: age and his desire to win immediately, and it obviously 206 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 4: didn't work. 207 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: Good stuff is always, Mike, good to talk to you, 208 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. 209 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: Thank you, JEP. 210 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: That's Michael Silver, Senior National writer for The Athletic. You 211 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: read the article and you're like, oh boy, and it's 212 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: not just about Max Crosby, but really that's the microcosm 213 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: of how it feels like the organization is being run. 214 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, that's a big, big lift for this franchise 215 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: that you got somebody that you want to tune in 216 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: and watch. I would trade Max Crosby. You're not ready 217 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: to win now, he doesn't want to be there. I 218 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: don't know what you can get for him. You're not 219 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: getting a Michael Parsons Hall. But you know, Michael said 220 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: maybe the Cowboys. So the Cowboys just had this with 221 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Michah Parsons and let him go, and it felt like 222 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: they made the right decision. You know, in retrospect, I 223 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: can side with Jerry Jones. Now I'm finding more information 224 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: out about that whole scenario and Micah, how he was viewed. 225 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: Did teammates like him, you know, so there's a lot 226 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: more I think that maybe that will surface. But I 227 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: did find that out recently, and they made the right decision. 228 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: I believe that. I just don't know, do you then 229 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: now go out and get Max Crosby and give up 230 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 2: some of the things that you got for Michael Pyson's 231 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I mean, that defense is really suspect, but 232 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: the secondary is what I would try to firm up. 233 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: I would have said to the Kansas City Chiefs, Hey, 234 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie, we'd love to have him. I don't know 235 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: if you could get into a bidding war there with 236 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: the Rams, but if I'm well, a lot of teams, 237 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: there aren't many great cornerbacks where you go. That guy's 238 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: a lockdown cornerback, and at that age. So but Mike's 239 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: columns available at the Athletic Chooch in Toledo. 240 00:13:53,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: Hey chooch, Hey, good morning, DP six foot to sixty. 241 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: First of all, I wanted to say, I find it 242 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: interesting that you equate your flatulence with the Cleveland Browns. 243 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 5: I wanted a little explanation on that. But I as 244 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: I'm listening to everybody, and you know, with regards to 245 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 5: Lou Holtz and the Browns, I did want to get 246 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: your opinion on a new head coach with the Browns. 247 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: By the way, I do put my address shoes on 248 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: in dress, socks on before I go right leg first. 249 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: But back to that, as I blue Holtz was by 250 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: hero between nineteen eighty eight and nineteen eighty nine, Notre 251 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: Dame was unbelievable. The Cleveland Browns had a couple of 252 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: opportunities to. 253 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: Get into the big show. 254 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: And since that decade, it's been a horrible existence for me, 255 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: a lout of therapy. I just I feel like, and 256 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: I'm skipping over to college football now. I feel like 257 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: we're losing that one component that Lou always preached, and 258 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: that's the development of young men. And with all of 259 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: these payments and now Missouri with state tax exemptions, everything's 260 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: all over the place. And you know, my young son says, Dad, 261 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: is college football turning into pro football? And I just 262 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: I feel like we're losing that. 263 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: It's more of a mess. Like the NFL isn't a mess, 264 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: like they have complete control and thanks for the phone call. 265 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: College football is a mess. It is, And blame this 266 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: on you know, the leaders in college football, athletic directors, presidents. 267 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: You don't have rules, and if you have rules, they're 268 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: not enforced, they're vague. It just became how did we 269 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: get here? And it didn't take long and we don't 270 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: even know what the endgame is. I know the president 271 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: is inviting people to the White else. I think that 272 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: might be today or tomorrow, and they want to talk 273 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: about this. This is what college football, from what I'm 274 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:12,239 Speaker 2: told is really hoping for that. Congress gets involved. Congress 275 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: has other things, don't worry about right now, not nil. 276 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: How about you leaders, you educators, Why don't you guys 277 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: figure this out because you're the ones that allowed this 278 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: to happen right in front of you, all of you. 279 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: Nobody cares about, you know, geographical alignment. Nobody cares about conferences, 280 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Like do kids even go to class anymore? I've brought 281 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: this up. I can't imagine somebody being academically ineligible. I 282 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: used to be. That happened a lot. I haven't heard 283 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: about it in years that Hey, somebody didn't qualify. Somebody's 284 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: academically and eligible. I mean, there was a player who 285 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: went six years and didn't graduate. How does that happen? Yes, Marvin, you. 286 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 6: Know how much they're paying that kid that's got a 287 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 6: one point seven gpo? I oh, he's playing I. 288 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 7: Know, yeah, Paul, and vice versa. Someone graduates in four years, 289 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 7: but they're in their six year playing college football. Are 290 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 7: they attending classes? 291 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: Do they have to? I don't even know. I don't 292 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: even know. I really don't. 293 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 294 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: And that kind of why school should be for students 295 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: and athletics should be for athletes. 296 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: That's been an argument for a long time because I said, 297 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: they're not student athletes, they're athletic students. 298 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: Let the students go to school and let the athletes 299 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: h athlete. 300 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: If this is what your major is, then let you. 301 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to let you major in. I have a 302 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: broadcasting school. Your major is sportscasting. Your degree is in sportscasting. 303 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: We're not kidding anybody. You still have to take core classes. 304 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Your degree is in sportscasting. Take a break here, We're 305 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: going to talk to Jay Glazier. Will join us next hour. 306 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: More of your phone well, update the pull results back 307 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: after this. 308 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 309 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 310 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 311 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 8: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd 312 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 8: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 313 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 9: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 314 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 9: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are 315 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 9: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 316 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live 317 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: on YouTube every day. 318 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 9: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube 319 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 9: again YouTube just search odd couple FSR, check us out 320 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 9: on YouTube and subscribe. 321 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: The Rams have traded nine of their last ten first 322 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: round picks, go back to twenty seventeen. They didn't have 323 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: a first round pick because they traded it to the 324 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: Titans the year before to move up and take Jared Goff. 325 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen traded the first round pick to the Patriots 326 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: for Brandon Cooks. Twenty nineteen traded their first round pick 327 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: to the Falcons for more picks. Twenty twenty and twenty 328 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: twenty one traded their first round picks to the Jags 329 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: in a trade for Jalen Ramsey. Twenty twenty two to 330 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three first round pick went to the Lions 331 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: along with Jared Goff. They got Matthew Stafford. Twenty twenty four, 332 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: they used their first round pick on Jared Verse, twenty 333 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: twenty five traded their first round pick to the Falcons 334 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: for a package of picks that included the Falcons first 335 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: round pick. This year, and now the Rams agreeing to 336 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: trade their first round pick to the Chiefs for Trent McDuffie. 337 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: So it's worked out for them, but their philosophy, they 338 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: haven't changed their philosophy it's first round picks. Okay, they're valuable, 339 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: but let's get a sure thing now. Jared Verse turned 340 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: out to be a very good defensive lineman. Jared Goff 341 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: helped you get to a super Bowl. Jared Goff helped 342 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 2: you get Matthew Stafford. Jalen Ramsey helped you win a 343 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You've had proof of concept here with this 344 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: over the last decade. And give credit to Les Snead 345 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: and Sean McVay. They were aggressive with this, but this 346 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: was a glaring need because when you watch the Rams, 347 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: they had everything to win the Super Bowl except for 348 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: somebody who was going to lock down your best receiver. 349 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: And if you're allowing quarterbacks throw for over three hundred 350 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: yards three touchdowns against you, Sam Darnold, Bryce Young, Jalen Hurts, 351 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: I mean, these mac jones, these aren't great quarterbacks that 352 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: are carving you up. These are good quarterbacks, and you're 353 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: making them look great. They had a mission. They went 354 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: out and got him. But if i'm Kansas City could 355 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: have gotten more for Trent McDuffie. Now you're gonna have 356 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: to pay him after next year or maybe this year 357 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: coming up, but you're getting a really valuable player, and 358 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: that's what was surprising with Kansas City. Kansas City still 359 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: believes they're winning now. But I don't know when Patrick 360 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: Mahomes is coming back. I don't know what's going to 361 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: happen at the tight end position. I mean, it feels 362 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 2: like they're going to try to patch this together just 363 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs and then hope, you know, Mahomes 364 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: is Mahomes and then maybe you could do some damage. 365 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, going back to the Rams draft history twenty seventeen, 366 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 7: round three, Cooper Cup, twenty sixteen, round four, Tyler Higbee, 367 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 7: I think he's still on the roster. 368 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: He's still a good player. 369 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 7: They got Whokin Nakou was a fifth rounder. Kyron Williams 370 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 7: the running back, very good career fifth rounder. Those are 371 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 7: some cheap options. 372 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: But that that's the difference between an average franchise, a 373 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: good one and a great one is I want to 374 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: know what you do with your other draft picks, because 375 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: what happens is we focus on the first round. Now, 376 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: if you're die hard, then you're going to watch or 377 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: maybe you only care about your team with the other 378 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: you know, two extra days with the draft. But this 379 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: is where teams win championships. When you look back and 380 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: you go, what round did they get him in a 381 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: free agent or they traded for him? You know the 382 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: Chiefs with Isaiah Pacheco, seventh round, that's where you win. 383 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: Your first rounder has to hit, has to especially if 384 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: you're going to trade a lot trade up to get 385 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: somebody at quarterback. Has to hit. But these other draft picks, 386 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: I mean, that's where it's so important. You know, when 387 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: you're getting a steal in the fifth round, sixth round, 388 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 2: seventh round. Everybody had the opportunity to take this person, 389 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: but you made it work. And that's why the Chiefs 390 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: have been so good. The Ravens for years were so good. 391 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: Just that first round pick. It's what do you do 392 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: with all those other picks. Stefan Diggs got released, got cut, 393 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: and he had a thousand yards this year. I didn't 394 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: think he was threatening, though. It's weird when I watch 395 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: them play. That's what was amazing with Drake May you know, 396 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: really good running backs. I just didn't think he had 397 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: like Hunter Henry's not scaring anybody. They didn't have that 398 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you got that guy. Now, maybe that 399 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: guy's Aj Brown, because it certainly feels like AJ Brown 400 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: is either going to end up on Buffalo or New England. 401 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: And if I'm Philadelphia, I'm going to try to leverage 402 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: that between two teams in the same division who may 403 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: want the same guy. But AJ Brown. All right, Drake 404 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: May now you got your guy. Now AJ Brown is 405 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: the go to guy. But if I'm Josh Allen, I'm like, 406 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: you know, we got some good tight ends and I 407 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: love my running back, but can I get that guy? 408 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: I can really use that guy. 409 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm guessing too that Stefan Diggs is chasing a 410 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: ring at this point. Wherever he's going to sign, he 411 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: wants to be on a contender like maybe a Rams 412 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: team or something like that. I don't know if they 413 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: have the room for him necessarily, or what their cap 414 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: space is all that crap, but. 415 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: You would imagine he's chasing a ring. Yes, but I 416 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: didn't think he was a number one wide receiver, even 417 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: though somebody had to be the number one receiver for 418 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: the Patriots. 419 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, like I wouldn't think that wherever he was going, 420 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: he would be the number one wide receiver. I would 421 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: imagine that at this point in his career, he knows 422 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: he's not that guy. New England was probably one of 423 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: the only places that he would be treated that way. 424 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: When it's like, well you are Kaishaan Boudie, you know, 425 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: it's probably Stefan Diggs is going to be the one. 426 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: But wherever he goes after that, who's a contender. They 427 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: already got their guy. He would be just an addition, right, 428 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: and probably a really good addition too. 429 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: The Aaron Rodgers situation now it feels like said, there 430 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: are some columns that are misleading. Aaron Rodgers is holding 431 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: up the Steelers again. The timeline, Well, he is a 432 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: free agent, and from what Aaron has talked about, the 433 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: Steelers haven't offered him a contract. I if I'm the Steelers, 434 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm at least looking elsewhere. I'm exploring all options here. 435 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: But Aaron made a surprised guest appearance on the Pat 436 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: McAfee show yesterday. 437 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 4: I've talked to Mike, I've talked to Omar. 438 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 10: There's been no deadline that's been you know, that's been 439 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 10: put in front of me. There's no contract, you know, 440 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 10: offer or anything. So there's nothing that I'm you know, 441 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 10: having to debate between I'm you know, free agent and 442 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 10: you know again I'm I'm enjoying my time with my 443 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 10: wife and enjoying this part of the off season. 444 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: And and you know, I think. 445 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 10: There's conversations to be had down the line, but right now, 446 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 10: I'm not not. There hasn't been any progressive conversation. 447 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was June when he signed with the 448 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: Steelers last year. Mike McCarthy knows, Aaron, you don't have 449 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: to get you a get to know situation with your quarterback. 450 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: And it feels early right now. I don't know if 451 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: Will Howard is going to be get a chance to 452 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: start the Ohio State quarterback. I don't know if you 453 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: bring in Kirk Cousins, like what. First of all, I'd 454 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: like to know what are you doing because it feels 455 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: like you're going to be nine to eight again with 456 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: or without Aaron Rodgers. Can you get your future quarterback? 457 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: Is that future quarterback? A quarterback who has played for 458 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: another team? Is Kyler Murray a future quarterback? Malik willis 459 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: future quarterback? Sua future quarterback? So I would love to 460 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: know what their philosophy is because it feels like here 461 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: we go again. I don't think you're I think you're 462 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 2: just a better than a little better than average team. 463 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: And I gave you credit because of Tomlin was going 464 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: to make you a little better than average, but you 465 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: were going to make the playoffs and you weren't going 466 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: to win. If I'm a Steeler fan, at some point, 467 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: I go, ah, boy, we can really be proud that 468 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: we are over five. We had a winning record, and 469 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: maybe we made the playoffs and we didn't win a 470 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: playoff game. They're not threatening and that would be frustrating. 471 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: And you're bringing in Mike McCarthy And do I think 472 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: that that's a good hire. Yes, he's got a proven 473 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 2: track record, he's good with offenses. I just look at 474 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: that offense and I go, I don't like your weapons. 475 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: And then you're going to put Aaron Rodgers back there again. Okay, 476 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: what am I getting? 477 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 11: Like? 478 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: What is the ceiling? I kind of know what the 479 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: floor is. I'd like to know what the ceiling is. Yes, 480 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: PAULI could you see. 481 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 7: Rogers being the backup plan for a number of teams, 482 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 7: like if it doesn't work out with the draft and 483 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 7: free agency. 484 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he oh backup, but still be a starter. 485 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 7: Backup plan for the quarterback position, like if Minnesota doesn't 486 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 7: find a better replacement, then they'll go to Rogers later 487 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 7: the process. 488 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 2: Okay, starter, but note, okay, that's where I was confused, 489 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: because he's gonna play. He's not going to be a backup. 490 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: He's going to be the starter. But if you can't 491 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: get who you need, like if Minnesota doesn't get who 492 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: they want, do you bring Aaron Rodgers in? 493 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 4: Yeah? 494 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he would want to play there. You 495 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: get to play indoors and you got some weapons there. 496 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: But you know it might be June by the time 497 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 2: that happens. After the draft, we'll talk to Glazer, Jay 498 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: Glazer Jonas coming up. Uh Tom in Michigan, Good morning, Tom. 499 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: What's on your mind today? 500 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 11: Morning? Dan six' one two sixty five. I'd like to 501 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 11: believe my mom once she said I'm big boned. Anyway, 502 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 11: to preface my statement, I have a clean driving record, 503 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 11: no accidents, just a lot of speeding tickets. Back when 504 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 11: I was fresh out of college, I was a feed salesman, 505 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 11: driving one thousand miles a week. I managed to get 506 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 11: five or six speeding tickets in two years, got over 507 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 11: ten points on my license, had to get special auto 508 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 11: insurance through a special carrier, and my parents' farm had 509 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 11: to have all the proof of insurance, say excluding my name, 510 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 11: because I was such a high risk. So those are 511 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 11: the things because points only stick around for two years. 512 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 11: After that they're gone because pack I'm fifty five and 513 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 11: I still probably average about one speeding ticket a year 514 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 11: because of my mantra that road time has wasted time. 515 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 11: So and I'm a lifelong dairy farmer where happy cows 516 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 11: when they retire, they become happy meals. 517 00:29:52,640 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. Yeah, if you get to twelve points, 518 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: then I think they suspend your license for six months. 519 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: But I don't know how many points that. Miles Garrett 520 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: is a crude. But what is his seven speeding tickets 521 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: that he's had. 522 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 7: We're looking into him. We had a suggestion for a 523 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 7: punishment for Miles Garrett. The next time he gets a 524 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 7: speeding ticket, he has to give up his Bugatti or 525 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 7: Ferrari or whatever he's driving. He has to drive like 526 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 7: a like an astro van from the late nineties. 527 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: That'll teach him. Yeah. Do we have a new poll question? Well, 528 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: we have several pole questions. Do we have a new 529 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: football poll? 530 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: We have we do have new football poll questions. 531 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: We also have speaking of speeding tickets. 532 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: How many speeding tickets would it take you getting in 533 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: less than ten years to start slowing down? Three, five, 534 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: seven or nine plus. Right now, most people a good 535 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: sixty nine percent have about three speeding tickets, and then 536 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: they would start slowing down. Some people are up to five. 537 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 3: About eighteen percent are up to five. That's pretty interesting. 538 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: And then I'd rather my team signlike Willis, trade for 539 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: Mac Jones, signed Kirk Cousins, or draft Ty Simpson. Right now, 540 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: forty one percent have signed Malik Willis. 541 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 542 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: I had somebody yesterday, a former NFL Prone office person, said, 543 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 2: you know, you should pump your brakes a little bit 544 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: on Malik Willis. I'm like, why, come on? And what 545 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: a buzzkill? And he's like, yeah, you know, might be 546 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: a bridge quarterback. And I go, okay, you know how 547 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: big is the bridge? You know how long does it 548 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: take to get over the bridge? Can I have a 549 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: bridge quarterback for two or three years? He did well 550 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: with the Packers, He goes yeah. Like I was like, man, 551 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: what am I missing out here? Because it feels like 552 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: Malik Willis still at an age where you know he 553 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: could be in his prime. Get him with a good team. 554 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: But I would take a chance on Kyler Murray certain teams. 555 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: I would take a chance on Kyler Murray, the Vikings, 556 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: I definitely would. I don't want to put him in 557 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: the Jets situation. Why do I think Kirk Cousins ends 558 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: up with the Jets? I know, just because then he 559 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: can you know, he can be in New York to 560 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: do his you know, the CBS Football show and still 561 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: quarterback the Jets as well. Yes, Pauline, what if. 562 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 7: He did the CBS pregame show and went right over 563 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 7: to the stadium and play for the Jets. 564 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: How about you take the pregame show too, or just 565 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 2: let him do a live shot that's producing, I mean, 566 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: his uniform on. He'll somehow make a ton of money 567 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: off of this, owing Kirk d Cousins. All right, let's 568 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: take a break, get more phone calls, Jay Glazer next hour. 569 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 570 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 571 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app 572 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: search FSR to listen live. 573 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport, NFL Network Night said that the Steelers do 574 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: expect a decision from Aaron Rodgers before free agency, and 575 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: Rogers said that there's no deadline because they're not going 576 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: to offer a deal until they know that he's going 577 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: to accept a deal. Ian Rappaport suggested the Steelers want 578 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: the opposite. If Rogers confirms that he wants to come 579 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: back and play, details of an offer will be revealed 580 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: to him at that point. So it's a waiting game 581 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: of waiting for Aaron to decide if he wants to play, 582 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: and then the Steelers would make an offer to him. 583 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: I guess that's what Ian Rappaport is say. Glazier will 584 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: have something on this coming up. Dylan in Orlando, Hi Dylan, 585 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: what's on your mind? 586 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 12: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. I hope you're 587 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 12: out doing it right. I know earlier this week we 588 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 12: had a little fire situation think out. It was okay, 589 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 12: but they kind of inspired me to write a little 590 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 12: herody song based on we didn't start the fire, but 591 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 12: of course including some Dan Patrick inspired lyrics. If I 592 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 12: can sing, I only got one verse. If I can 593 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 12: sing it. 594 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: For you, sounds good? Dylan, All right, here we go. 595 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 12: Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell, big German, Pete Carroll, Mothership backroom, guys, 596 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 12: Marvin on the airlines, Trigger Grill, tire Rack, Dylan cooking 597 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 12: in the back. What did I learn today? Toddy's in 598 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 12: the passing length, Dan Patrick geeze in Fuego Status the 599 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 12: day and a fight of the face Dan Patrick, Geese 600 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 12: and Fuego. We'll have a ball when Tyler cakes. 601 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 11: Your call. 602 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 12: Your call, Your call. 603 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: Was fun, very nice. Thank you, Dylan. I didn't know 604 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: I needed that today, but I'm glad I have it. 605 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 7: Yes, Paul, Whenever I'm driving home and we have a 606 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 7: call like that, I always picture that person sitting at 607 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 7: his kitchen table. No, that's not it and writing it again. 608 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, wife and kids, what are you doing? I'm writing 609 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 2: a parody song, Sam focused BJ and Peoria, Hi Bj, Hey. 610 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 8: Good morning, Dan and the dan Nets six two three 611 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 8: twenty Powerlifter Pizza Division. I'm talking about Lou Holtz. I 612 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 8: do not want to spin in anybody's grave, pun intended, 613 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 8: but we always forget that Lou also left Minnesota, Notre Dame, 614 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 8: South Carolina, and a year after he left. In each 615 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 8: case they ended up on probation. And that's the only 616 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 8: mark against an otherwise great career. Final take the Bears. 617 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 8: I heard you guys talking about them in the over 618 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 8: under conversation the other day. They're the worst team in 619 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 8: the NFC North. Even last year they were two and 620 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 8: four in the division. And they're going to play the 621 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 8: first place schedule this year, which still means something in 622 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 8: a couple of games. And I look for them to 623 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 8: go eight and nine at best this season. I'll hang 624 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 8: up and eat some more pizza. 625 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: Does anybody want to bet BJ that the Bears finish 626 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 2: better than a nine? 627 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: Anybody feel Bears finished better than eight and nine? 628 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Now BJ was saying that at best the Bears 629 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: are eight and nine. Nine, it's gonna be a couple 630 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: of teams are gonna take a step back, yes, Paul. 631 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 7: And so many of those wins by the Bears last 632 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 7: year were tenuous. I think they had eleven last year 633 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 7: and could have won eight. 634 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: That's why I shorted the Commanders. Now, Jane Daniels got hurt, 635 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: But I thought, man, you can't win like seven one 636 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 2: score games. You can't do that consistently. Now, great teams can, 637 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: But I just I thought they'd come back to earth. 638 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: But you know, Jade Daniels, of course got hurt. How 639 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: about this, would you rather know the Steelers next quarterback, 640 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers' next team, or see a picture of Aaron Rodgers' wife, Like, 641 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 2: right now, what would you want? Because Aaron says that 642 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: he's married, nobody has seen his wife. 643 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 13: Todd, I'm totally going to go with the third choice, 644 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 13: the TMC and me or whatever you want to call it. 645 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 13: I'm very curious about what his wife looks like. 646 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: How is that possible? There were all of these pictures 647 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: of Aaron walking on the beach in Malibu when we 648 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: weren't sure what he was going to be doing next. 649 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: There's no pictures of him with his wife. Yes, Paul, if. 650 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 7: You're Aaron Rodgers' current wife, is this like a plan 651 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 7: to keep out of the media spotlight? Is this a recommendation? 652 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 7: Does she like this? 653 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's a collaborative, collaborative effort on her 654 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: and his part of Look, I don't want to be 655 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: in the spotlight. You are, that's good? Does she go 656 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: to games? I mean it's a big mystery. And the 657 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: caller BJ did bring up Lou Holtz, and yes, when 658 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: Lou would leave a couple of different universities, they would 659 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: end up on probation so that is fact. But I 660 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: was talking about a voice what he did at Notre Dame. 661 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: He was a character an analyst. But yeah, I mean, 662 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: these these resumes aren't bulletproof. But you know, he just 663 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: passed away. As he said, wow, I mean to spit 664 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: on his grave, but he kind of did there. I 665 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: don't know if we're telling the whole story of Lou 666 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: Holds today, but you know, it's kind of like, yeah, 667 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: Lou Holds passed away. You know, like how much time 668 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: people want me to do my Lou Holtz impersonation and 669 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: I can't do it today? Yeah. 670 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 3: See, I gotta admit I'd spent many times drafting a 671 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: text and then deleting it, and then to writing a 672 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: text and then deleting it, and then writing a text 673 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: and then deleting it because I did have a lot 674 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: of jokes to make for Lou Holds. I did, yeah, really, yeah, 675 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: And that's like, no, you know what I've even in 676 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: a closed chat like the five of us, Yeah, like, 677 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: oh I probably shouldn't. 678 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah you didn't even share, No, I didn't. How about tomorrow? 679 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: I made a million of them? 680 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 11: Though? 681 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: How about tomorrow? Is that enough time? Yes? Maybe I checked? Yeah, 682 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 2: all right, he's eighty nine. 683 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, this wasn't a complete shore. 684 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: Oh he was in hospice. Yeah, all right, Maybe I'll 685 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: do my Lou holtz impersonation tomorrow, like every bit in 686 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: my body. 687 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, and I think that's okay, because eighty nine 688 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 6: is the celebration of life, period. Yeah, like when someone Hey, 689 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 6: if I die tomorrow, it's not a celebration of life, 690 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 6: it's oh he was young, Lou holtz Man, what a run? 691 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 692 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 7: Un so? 693 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 11: Come on? 694 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa wait, what's going on here? Come on? Celebration 695 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: of life? Right, let's go. 696 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 7: Eighty six is the cutoff number? 697 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: Eighty six. If you make it to eighty six or over, 698 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: you can have a celebration of life. 699 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 7: Well, you can't complain that you got cut short. 700 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: I would be happy with that number. 701 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 7: If someone offered you eighty six clean right now, who's 702 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 7: not signing up? 703 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: I'll take eighty six clean, six clean general health. 704 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 13: Yes, And we've asked this before, but I'll ask again, 705 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 13: what is the age of dying of natural causes? If 706 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 13: someone says that he was, you know, thirty eight and 707 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 13: died of natural cause, that would seem way too young. 708 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 13: But seventy seven or something would seem opet What is 709 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 13: that cut off for dying of natural cause? Just from 710 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 13: being old and your body just breaks. 711 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. 712 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 7: Yes, I think a generation ago, making it to seventy 713 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 7: seven felt pretty good. 714 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: Now it feels like, oh no, what happened? You might 715 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 2: ask what happened at seventy Yes? 716 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 3: See, But it's odd to me too, because like, there 717 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: are lots of natural causes of death, you know, like 718 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: a stroke or a heart attack is a natural cause. 719 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 3: But people don't say that, like, ah, I had a 720 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 3: heart attack, but then there's natural causes. Those are all 721 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: natural causes to die from, right, But what did you 722 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 3: do to create that stroke that made it? 723 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 724 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: I mean heart disease might be the reason or something 725 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: like that if you have a heart attack, but it's 726 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 3: still a natural cause, right. 727 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: I just want to go in my sleep, yes, Todd, Yeah, because. 728 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 13: Natural causes to me just says like eventually your body 729 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 13: can't just function forever. 730 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,959 Speaker 4: Eventually it just. 731 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: All breaks down. He died of natural causes ninety three? 732 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 4: What do he wanted to do that? 733 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: Gouda be a Live one hundred and thirty Jay Glazer 734 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 2: in the final hour,