1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: My Mama told me Presents the Start to Steal Tour. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: We're very excited about it. Yeah, I'm not about to 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: bite my tongue. We want to sell it out and 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: the dates are coming up fast, and so if you 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: live in one of these areas, we want you to 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: buy your tickets now. It's all available on our instagrams, 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: on our websites, on our link tree. But we'll be 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: in Atlanta on Halloween, October thirty first, November one, We're 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: in Houston, November two, Austin, November third, Dallas. We're in 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Brooklyn on November seventh. We're in Somerville, Massachusetts. It's Boston, bitch, 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: get over it. November eighth, November tenth, we're in Philly. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: November seventeenth, we're in San Francisco. We want y'all to 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: come out. We want y'all to kick it. We will 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: be doing our coveted live show with special guests, with 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: just me and David. Depending on the city, it'll be 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: a great time. 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: All that meet and greets you've been Chris Brown has 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: a good meet and greed. 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Bro. Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: you for free. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: Also follow me on this hood rats, don't abborshing your womb. 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: We need more warriors soon, sah from the stars Sun 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: in the Moon. But in who was shooting at him, 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: it means he was shooting at a black guy, So 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: we need more war We need more warriors in the 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: war on black on black guys. He ain't kill any 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: white guys in that video, which is really my only issue. 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying that this is Nas more spreading self 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: hatred than. 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Than I'm saying. I'm saying I don't know what the 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: fuck happened. I'll say I don't know what the fuck 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: out of that video. I'm old enough that I can 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: finally admit it. I didn't get it. 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Nobody got it, man, and that's that's what man. 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: NAS was like, uh, put a goat in it. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm just gonna put a T shirt on my head, 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: say some numbers about guns. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Don't get it. 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: Let me just say what happens, abu the no, okaylet's go. 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: In your. 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: A. 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: Kuala bears are racist? The money. 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 4: Turney stuff. 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I can't tell. 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Me, but I gotta be strong. 47 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: But I gotta be strong. Girl. You did me wrong 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: when I thought we were really down there. It is there. 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: It is welcome little Mama's and gentiles alike to another 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: phenomenal episode of My Mama Told. 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: pockets of black conspiracy theories. 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: And we finally worked to prove that the Dallas Shag 54 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: predates the mullet, a haircut that was introduced to the 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: white community by non government conspirator Billy Ray Cyrus to 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: have the popularity of the other one because the government 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: knew that the work life balance struck between the business 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: in the front party in the back lifestyle would render 59 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: the black man too strong. 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: My name, my name is like say German, and I'm stunned. 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Go on that had like JFK shooting level twists and 62 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: turns in it that you know what I mean, Like 63 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: you really built a narrative. There are more than one 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: shooter in that story, and I gotta, I gotta really 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: unpack this. So what you're saying is that the black 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: man shag the dallash How did you refer to it? 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: The Dallas Shag? The Dallas Shag isn't fact the the predecessor. 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: It is the original shag, and the white man usurp this. 69 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: It's like Rock and Roll. 70 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Demanded it become their own to keep us from growing 71 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: stronger as a people. 72 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Yes, wow, because the core of it is the work 73 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: life balance. 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that type of balance would make us 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: too powerful. We would we would lose ourselves from sort 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: of the restraints of the white man and his order 77 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: as it were. 78 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: They even want you working or not fuck you walk 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: that line? 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're just at home drinking a Heineken 81 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: that you can afford. No, we don't like that. 82 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no. They want you to kill 83 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: yourself for that crystal or drink that eight ball and 84 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: not go anywhere. 85 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, okay, I'm here, I'm bought in. 86 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: You know where that came from. Me and my girl 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: went to one of the more ratchet walmarts in our 88 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: area and we saw a Dallas swag and very conflicting 89 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: opinions on it. My girl was like, did you see that? 90 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: And I was like a kind of at the same time, 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: I was like it was amazing, and she was like, 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: that's gross. 93 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: But okay, let's unpack amazing for you. Because because I 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: tend to agree with her, I think it's a huge 95 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: mistake that any man should be deeply, deeply ashamed of. 96 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: That said, what is the amazing for you? Are you like, 97 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: physically I am attracted to that look or you're like, no, 98 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: that's amazing that he's he's like being himself. 99 00:05:52,240 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: I appreciate when black man, it's an all natural haircut, 100 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: that's an inventive and I think that's pretty cool. I 101 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: think it's I do what I do it if my 102 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: girl had reacted differently, yes, the issue my issue with 103 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: the shag is that it has two components that I've 104 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: never been able to lock down in my life. That's 105 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: why I couldn't do it too. 106 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: What are the two components. 107 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Afro and waves? I've never really successfully completed either. 108 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: Oh you're saying that just to have the shag but 109 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: not but not be wavy as fuck would would be 110 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: a disservice. 111 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: It wouldn't do it. 112 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I can meet you somewhere near in the middle. 113 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: Then. 114 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: I do think it needs to look it needs to 115 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: look elevated, and I think oftentimes, at least to me, 116 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: it's treated just as like an additional piece of hair. 117 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: And I don't like when it just looks like, oh, 118 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: you just said, hey, lead that, I'm gonna keep that. Yeah, 119 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: that was just me. 120 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: My man, he was shining. It was man, it was 121 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: like a neat puff in the back. It was it 122 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: was well done. 123 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Like I need you to be in a shirt with 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: like three buttons open, you know what I mean? Like 125 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I want you to fully be bought into the character 126 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: and then I can fuck with that. But I'm saying 127 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: that like that ain't no grocery store. Look, do you 128 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, you can't just be a 129 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: guy in your sweats doing that in that That's what 130 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I support that. 131 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're gonna do that, you have 132 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 2: to get a line up every week. 133 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: You gotta be a lineup every week. You gotta really 134 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: buy into the character. You gotta you gotta uh, you 135 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: gotta start like, uh, you gotta start calling girls miss ma'am. 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like you got a really uh. 137 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: Non prescription cardiers. 138 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta really be a fucking dude after a while. 139 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Which is fine. That's She also noted there were a 140 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: lot of Africans in the store didn't care for that either. 141 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: Same energy at the shed. 142 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, just like but I was just I'm 143 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: just so sensitive. I realized this about myself. I'm so sensitive. 144 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: She's like, there's a lot of Africans in there, and 145 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? 146 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: But the problem is I did notice. 147 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, man, these culture wars got to end. 148 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: This is crazy. I'm a living contradiction. I feel like 149 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: I'm mixed. Yeah, yeah, I get you. I got you. 150 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Get an American that might be the second one to 151 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: black and white, that might be the second most difficult one. 152 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Whoa you think so that like the that they that 153 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: just the challenges of connecting are that deep. 154 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: I think at times you very much will butt up 155 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: against it. Yeah, well, let me ask you this. This 156 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: is maybe a fascinating question for the African American sort 157 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: of like uh transition of it for for the mixed kids. 158 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: We always talk about how the mom is such a 159 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: big determinant and whether a mixed kid turns. 160 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: Out a decent or not. That like if white mom, 161 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: black dad, you get a Patrick mahomes Uh. 162 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: I've heard that. 163 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: I've heard that every time, whereas like black mom, white dad, 164 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you get much closer to the the sort of like 165 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: idea concoction of mixed behavior. 166 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, hit the sweet spot. 167 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit a sweet spot where you're like, Ah, 168 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: that motherfucker. He gets it because he had a black 169 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: lady yelling at him versus a white appeaser, you know 170 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, it's not it's a very different vibe, 171 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I think. And so I wonder if there's any calculation 172 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: inside of the African to African American that you're speaking to. 173 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I had an African mom and 174 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: a not present father. Ah, so it's like, but my 175 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: mom got here young, so I think even within her, 176 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: it's like, because she got even when she was eighteen, 177 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: So I think even within her the give and take 178 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: yeah pretty big, you know what I'm saying. 179 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: Yes, she's also struggling to make peace with this other element, 180 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: and then you are struggling subsequently, because that's a stacking 181 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: of struggling not. 182 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: And then if you want to get deep into it. 183 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: Because of the war, I didn't really know a lot 184 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: of my family like that. So I grew up. 185 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: When I was younger it. 186 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: Was more Africans, but probably by the time I got 187 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: to elementary school, it was far more Americans. In my 188 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: life than African. 189 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: People, damn. 190 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: So then it's like, might as well do some stand 191 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: up comedy about it. Birth of a Nation available at 192 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: patreon dot com. Backslash David Boy is very funny. 193 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I just picture of you after a while, just staring 194 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: in the mirror being like, what am I I have? 195 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: Like a grape soda and a glass banda in one hand. 196 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh god, I smashed them both on the mirror. I 197 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: should have wrapped bro. I could have had videos that visual. 198 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: That's enough for a bet awarded. 199 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, it depends what era you rapping, because 200 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: right now they would shoot you in the streets for 201 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: that goofy ship. But but man, we had a we 202 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: had a good run where hip hop could be like real, uh, 203 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: just like metaphorical and corny, and it was. 204 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: It was beautiful. 205 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: Man. 206 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: We remember the one mic video. Yeah, come on, that's 207 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: so far pseudo deep. That's the that's the peak of that. 208 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: It was so cool and and we would laugh so 209 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: hard at it, you know what I mean. If it 210 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: came out right now. 211 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: It was so it felt important at the time. Why 212 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: was he in Africa? 213 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, I think he might get an 214 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Oscar for this ship. I think. I think they're going 215 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: to open up the categories. I really think. But nas 216 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: just did is transforming the film industry and we have 217 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: to all acknowledge it. 218 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: Marty Scorsese, he takes some notes. You want to construct 219 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: a narrative my Mannas did in two minutes and forty 220 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: eight seconds a song that, truly, I'm not sure I 221 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: know what it's about. 222 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he knew yelling, and that's all it 223 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: takes for me. Dog he did that. I have listened 224 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: to him talk about the dying at thirty three Jesus 225 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: math shit so many times. I don't know what he's adding. 226 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's subtracting. No proof, no point 227 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: was proven to me in any way. And when he 228 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: said Jesus died at thirty three, that was the end 229 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: of it, Like the all the shit. 230 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: I was like, man, sixteen one of my guns was 231 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: holding seventeen. 232 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know if the math adds up to 233 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: what he says. 234 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Let alone the gun math. Bro, I don't know, gun man. 235 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I know the sixteen plus one one in the chamber, sure, 236 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: oh okay, if that makes sense, But what the fuck 237 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: did it add up to I. 238 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Don't know, it added up to a theme dropping his Heineken. 239 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Like all right, man, I don't know what this is, 240 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: but fuck you're a genius. He did love talking about Jesus. 241 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: Remember he had the video that was another NODS video 242 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: that I thought was important, was the Hate Me Now 243 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: because he was on the cross tu in hindsight, well, 244 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: I don't know what reason. 245 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, a NA it's not even really a NAS video, 246 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: but a video that featured NADS. That that always comes 247 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: to mind for him is that uh that Missy Elliot 248 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: song the Hot Boys, Hot Boys. He was in the 249 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: video because they only did the video for the remix, 250 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I think, and a man that his verse in that 251 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: with all the fire fucking going off and ship, I 252 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: was like, man, this is cool. This is this brother? 253 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Is he got it? Man? 254 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: That ship was so good that we forgot about q 255 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: tips verse. 256 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mmm hmm. I couldn't tell you what's talking about. 257 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Forgot he was there. That's what we need, I think, 258 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: can I say? And this is maybe this is gonna 259 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: make us sound bad. Yeah, I think we're kind of 260 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: scratching the same itch for people say more. I think 261 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: that we scratched that like really smart, but is it really? Ah? Yeah, 262 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: you're saying we are offering them the one mic video 263 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: twice a week, and they're like, they're like, man, this 264 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: ship is deep. And then you listen to one hundred 265 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: episodes and you're like, I do think these I think 266 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: these niggas are dumb. 267 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't think they talking about nothing. How many episodes 268 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: do you think it takes for them to find out 269 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: we're kind of dumb? 270 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Oh m, I think I think. 271 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Uh four, we gotta sell tickets for this tour. 272 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: He's gotta be You think you think they're going longer 273 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: than for I think I just don't believe in myself 274 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: so much that I'm like, you're gonna figure it out 275 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: pretty fast that I'm a fucking idiot. 276 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: I think you get through ten before you find out 277 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: we don't read. 278 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: WHOA Ten's pretty good? 279 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: I think ten. But you are not in a condescending way, 280 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: very articulate. Sometimes you talk and I'm like, damn, almost rest. 281 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: We just did a podcast for some whites. I said 282 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: about ten words the whole time, and you had reasonings 283 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: for everything. All your thoughts were grouped. 284 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, look, but that is that is 285 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 5: admittedly my trick. 286 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: That's the game that I figured out when I was younger. 287 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: Was like, oh, I gotta if I learn to talk 288 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: to people and if I learn to sound smart. When 289 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: I do it, motherfuckers will will fold in ways that 290 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: I could not control otherwise I've done it. Is like, yeah, 291 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get real fancy. I'm gonna learn words that 292 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: I can apply at odd times. I'm gonna make motherfuckers 293 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm on some brilliant shit when in fact 294 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm just making this up. 295 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, baby, that's good because my I think 296 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: this is why we work good together. My thing that 297 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: people think that I'm smart about is I can take 298 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: something that's very complicated and simplify it down. Yeah, but 299 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 2: it's just because I don't get it. So it's like 300 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're throwing all these science terms at me. 301 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: I have to equate it to like drinking a bottle 302 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: of liquor at a party, Like that's the only way 303 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: that I can understand the science of global warming. 304 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: And you gotta shave that ice down to make a picture. 305 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: We gotta talk flat because like in where you dove 306 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: deep into it, I went the other way, because then 307 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, if I just peak plainly and very directly, 308 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: then they'll have to think I understand what's going. 309 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: On, right I, brother, you ain't got to use autumn 310 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: words with me. You're talking to it. You're talking to 311 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: a man who's already here. That's why I equate it 312 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: to something local to my personal in my personal past. 313 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: How about that. I think it's gonna work. 314 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: I really think we're gonna become rich off of this, 315 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: or at least not have to go back to working 316 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: at the gas station. 317 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: I sure hope. So I really do think that it's 318 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: a it's a wonderful trick that we're pulling, and I 319 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: pray that we continue to pull it off. 320 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: And I would love to say, by the way, listeners 321 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: out there, if you have a trick to make you 322 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: seem smarter than you actually are, email us. We're always 323 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: looking to build. 324 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: We need a strong team of liars and rascals. And 325 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: if there's if you can prove that your triggery is 326 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: that much of an A said, there might be a 327 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: position for you here at My Mama told. 328 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: Me truly truly, because let me tell you, I was 329 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: like thirty two years old before I understood what people 330 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: meant by fast talking. 331 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: Mm hm m m m m. 332 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: And that is a trick I wish I had. 333 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: I love it when people get to go in fast 334 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: or I love that. Yeah, I listen, some of some 335 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: of the best are our motherfuckers that can just finess 336 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: a conversational quickly. Man. 337 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: That's what comedy is. That's every stand up comedian, that's 338 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 2: all the skill is. 339 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's why when our listeners and 340 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to a break in a second, but 341 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: that's why for our listeners. Who ever wonder about our 342 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: cynicism as it relates to comedy, your heroes we sometimes make, 343 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: we make light of of maybe some of the choices 344 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: that our peers are making at times, and and and 345 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: you wonder why why are they like that? Are they 346 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: just two haters? Well, yes, that's one thing. That's that's 347 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: a big part of it. But the other part of 348 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: it is we know that we're all fucking idiots. So 349 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: when you call our friends and people we work with 350 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: brilliant and you say how they are they are the 351 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: true philosophers in the world. No the fuck they're not. 352 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: We're idiots. 353 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: These think it's addicted to adderall. 354 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: They're so so dumb, and I like their comedy. I 355 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: enjoy the art form we've chosen because we all know 356 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: how stupid we are and how fundamentally insane it is. 357 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: That you even pay attention. That's the best part. People. 358 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: There are smart people who will research things. Listen to 359 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: them for your life advice or whatever. You want to 360 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: hear some goofy shit that's not quite accurate, then come 361 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: over and over here. 362 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: You would do better doing ted X. Not even the 363 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: Ted talks. TEDx talks are certainly more likely researched and 364 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: grounded than anything we're talking about. Are the TEDx talks 365 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: for dumb people? Is that what it is? I think 366 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: it's like it's the less than Ted, if that makes sense. 367 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: It's like it was Ted opening it up to like 368 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: a broader spectrum of local voices and shit where you 369 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: could still be an expert quote unquote, but it's it's 370 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: not the same tier as a Ted talk. 371 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: Okay, would you do a ted X? 372 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: I hope not to. 373 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: I I think some of our I think comedians have 374 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: done them. 375 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: I think a lot of comedians have done them. But 376 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that that anybody is like blown away 377 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: when you're like, yeah, I did a ted X. I 378 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: think I think I want to. I probably don't deserve 379 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: in any way to be doing a TED but certainly 380 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: if I do it, I gotta go TED all the way. 381 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Olivia says TED conferences are run by TED, while 382 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: ted X events are locally organized by volunteers. Oh okay, 383 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: in that case, Denver, Colorado, I'll be doing a ted X. 384 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Heiny, no payoff top. Okay, Denver, we are ted xing. 385 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: We gotta take a break and then we'll come back 386 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: and we'll get into a conspiracy. 387 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk againstpars me. 388 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back. 389 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: My mama told me presents the Start to Steal Tour. 390 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: We're very excited about it. Yeah, I'm not about to 391 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: bite my tongue. We want to sell it out and 392 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: the dates are coming up fast, and so if you 393 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: live in one of these areas, we want you to 394 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: buy your tickets now. It's all available on our instagrams, 395 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: on our websites, on our link tree. But we'll be 396 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: in Atlanta on Halloween, October thirty first, November one, We're 397 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: in Houston November two, Austin. November third, Dallas. We're in Brooklyn. 398 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: On November seventh, We're in Somerville, Massachusetts. It's Boston, bitch, 399 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: get over it. November eighth, November tenth, we're in Philly. 400 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: November seventeenth, we're in San Francisco. We want y'all to 401 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: come out. We want y'all to kick it. We will 402 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: be doing our coveted live show with special guests, with 403 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: just me and David. Depending on the city, it'll be 404 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: a great time. 405 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: All that meet and greets you've been Chris Brown has 406 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: a good meet and greed. 407 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: Bro. Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with 408 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: you for free. 409 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: Here's what I say, and let's bring let's bring it 410 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: back on this hilarious. We just cut out a comment 411 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: that I made that was hilarious. 412 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: It was one of the funniest things I've ever in 413 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: my life. It's like top ten for me right now 414 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: of things the funny things that somebody said. You know, 415 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: it's the scale changes every day. 416 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's always changing. 417 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: It's high. It is high on the list. That was 418 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: the Wilt Chamberlain of things. You can't deny it. 419 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: No, you just you gotta go to the fire. You 420 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: gotta go through the fire. That's where you guys didn't 421 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: hear it, but just know we're here and we're having 422 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: the important conversations so that you can take these and 423 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: you can go back to your thanksgivings in your holidays, 424 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: and you can be armed to talk to your bigot 425 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: family members because two known smart men have already discussed 426 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: these things for you, men that you think are genius 427 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: men you already know have done the work. Yeah, that's exit, 428 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: that's it. That's why this works, because. 429 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: We work because we were we before the episode got 430 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: into I think an exciting discussion about a conspiracy theory 431 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: that obviously has been circling for a few weeks now. 432 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: We were prompted by some of Shannon Sharp, your your hero, 433 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: I would say, your king, my. 434 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: Hero is on a tight end. 435 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Uh. Shannon Sharp obviously has been acting a goddamn fool 436 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: all across the Internet as of late, largely connected to 437 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: his sort of like constant defense and advocacy for Caitlyn Clark. 438 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: He like is constantly sort of raging about how mistreated 439 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: and underappreciated Caitlin Clark is and a lot of black 440 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: women in particular, have been very unhappy with Shannon Uh 441 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: sort of like making this constant effort to rage for 442 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: a white woman, all the while ignoring the hundreds of 443 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: black women also in that league. And it's I mean, listen, 444 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: you know the game better than me. Is she underrated? 445 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: She kind of was at a point, but not in 446 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: a way that needed what he was doing, do you 447 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Where Like, she came from college 448 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: and she's nasty, just objectively, nobody argues otherwise she is very, 449 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: very good at basketball, but she also was on a 450 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: team that was shitty in the beginning and was building, 451 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: and so they were losing a lot, and she wasn't 452 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: yet sort of in the swing the way that she's 453 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: now in the swing. So his from the beginning was like, 454 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: this is a you know, like a rookie showing like 455 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: upper tier leadership potential. We should be celebrating and going crazy. Also, 456 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: she's the most famous player in the league, so we 457 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: should follow that. And then now her shit, her expectations 458 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: have like grown, and so it kind of matches, you 459 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 460 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: Do you feel like Angel Reese is underrated? This is 461 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: actually not what we're talking about. I'm sorry, No, it's okay. 462 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: I I don't think Angel Reese is underrated now, but 463 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: I think that she was also underrated in the beginning. 464 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: And I think it took her literally breaking the rebound 465 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: record for people to start treating her more seriously than 466 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: I think they would have been treating her if it 467 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: was just like a rookie in the league, who was, 468 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: you know, dominating a lot of games. Okay, but that's 469 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: not what we're talking about. We're talking about him fucking 470 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: on camera. 471 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, So Shannon's been getting in trouble. But 472 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: you asked the question, and the conspiracy we sort of 473 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: got into is the question of whether or not the 474 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: the videotape, the alleged ig live that's circulated of him 475 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: fucking on that lady saying that's my Michelle was in 476 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: fact staged, Whether or not this whole thing was a 477 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: big ruse. Yes, where do you fall in in in 478 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: this theory? Well, I will say I thought his cardio 479 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: was better. Mm hmm, sounds like me. And I've always 480 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: thought of Shannon as a showman. I'll be honest with you. 481 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: I thought that show for it. I think he put 482 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: on a little. 483 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: Show for it. 484 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I think Shannon. Shannon is very much a man who 485 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: like likes to to give them them, them ladies what 486 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: what he thinks they believe they need. 487 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Spread it apart like a quarter to three old joke. 488 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Because he got a life these you know what I mean. Like, 489 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I think he does that every single time, even if 490 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: he's not in the mood for spreading apart and. 491 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh it wasn't. 492 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me too. I think. 493 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about going live. At some point, it's 494 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: because you touched that button. It would have gone live 495 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: from when you touch that button. Your phone wouldn't be 496 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: across the room when you were sucking it, and it 497 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: just starts going live. Yeah, that's why I don't believe it. 498 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: I've only gone onto other people's lives. I've never like 499 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: gone live myself because it's well, yeah, i'd feel a 500 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: certain type of low that I don't know that I 501 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: can undo, just sitting there doing that weight thing that 502 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: people be doing. 503 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up? What's up? Nick? Hey? Every time I. 504 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Accidently click on somebody's live and it says you can 505 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: request to this person's life, I'm like, I would rather 506 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: kill myself and it's like I'm doing my friends. 507 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, truly that that fucking weight is. It is so 508 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: brutal for me that I could not even imagine getting 509 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: to enough people that I would feel satisfied with with 510 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: starting to talk. Yes, yeah, no, it's my worst nightmare. 511 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: It seems terrible, just waiting for a few more people 512 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: to hop in, then we're gonna get started, Like whoa man, 513 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: that's a tough sentence. Whoa tough sentence. But that's a 514 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: tough sect. 515 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: But when they call out, looks like we got about 516 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: any five people on here. 517 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that's good, that's good. And this is because I'm sensitive. 518 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: My ego can't take that. Yeah, no it's not Look man, 519 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: if that is part of the game, you do the 520 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: game that this is not us telling you not to 521 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: survive however you feel the best suits you to survive. 522 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: But truly, the idea of personally doing that is my 523 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: one of my greatest nightmares. 524 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: There's a reason I don't have a lot of Instagram followers. 525 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: It's because I don't know. I'm not willing to do 526 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: the things. 527 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's my problem, buddy, you. 528 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: And me both. 529 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: But yes, the live is number one, not a thing 530 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: that ends up across the room and number two is 531 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: not something that is easy to do. It's like, actually 532 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: like multiple steps before you can go live. It's not 533 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: just like, oh my butt tapped a button and suddenly 534 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: we're live type shit. 535 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I understand accidentally sending like a dirty picture 536 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: because you're in the frenzy of text messaging. Who hasn't 537 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: who amongst us? Right, but the go live on accident 538 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: and for the phone to not be anywhere near your hand. 539 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: But it wasn't like he accidentally went live and then 540 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: like set the phone down and started fucking right right, So, like, 541 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: I think it has to be shited staged. 542 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: Now some people have been claiming that there's some sort 543 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: of scam, like people are hacking into these phones and 544 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: making them go live. 545 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: But have they known when he was fucking? 546 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: That's my issue is that it's it's a daily time, right, yeah, 547 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: And it's not like, oh, well, we do this all 548 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: the time with him, and so like we we just 549 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: so happened to this time get him fucking it's the 550 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: only time it's ever happened. And he happens to be 551 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: fucking across the room on his phone. That feels a 552 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: little convenient personally. 553 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Uh. I think it all to what we 554 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: were talking about before, is that it feels like people 555 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: were coming at him claiming for him to be whatever 556 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: the term you would like to call it, queer, whatever 557 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: you want to use, And it feels like this was 558 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: to like sort of dispel those rumors. Yeah, which is sad. 559 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: I think what we were saying, that's. 560 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: The conspiracy is that he is not pretending to be 561 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: having sex with this woman for no reason. He's pretending 562 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: to have sex with this woman and saying that's my 563 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: Michelle repeatedly naming her as a sort of red herring 564 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: and illusion for what he actually is, which is a 565 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: gay man who has gay sex. 566 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: And I don't think that's true either. But I do 567 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: think that like this sexual pocket watching has really got 568 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: us all mixed up in way that seems to be 569 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: doing a lot more harm than us because I think 570 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: it's cool if Shannon Shark fucks an you know what 571 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: I mean. Listen, he's an old, buff, rich guy who 572 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: never committed to a family. 573 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: He should be fucking everything that isn't tied down. Yeah, no, he. 574 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: It's why you do that. 575 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: That's why you get buff and old and don't have 576 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: a family. He has no responsibilities to anyone but himself. 577 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: He should, He should fuck whoever he wants. He should 578 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: be going crazy. It would make perfect sense. No one would, 579 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: no one should and this is a problem. No one 580 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: should question it even for a second. But he and 581 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: this is what we talked about, represents this such massive 582 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: important figure for sort of heterosexual black men that the 583 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: very idea of Shannon Sharp being queer is like a 584 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: prison for us. It it's truly is like destroying us. 585 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 2: Just because it's like it's its own form of bondage. 586 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: I think, Like, I think that's its own trap, right, 587 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: Like if that's a part of yourself that you're repressing 588 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: and you can't be free to explore that, which is 589 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: a pretty innate need or whatever, Like, how can you. 590 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: Ever be freed? 591 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: Right? How can you ever feel like you're yourself? Yeah? 592 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: This is uh, this is it is the most one 593 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: of the more animal parts of us, you know what 594 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, it's the the most animal shit that 595 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: we can't like even uncooked slightly. Sex is so fundamental 596 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: in who we are, uh, And we can't control it 597 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: and can't stop it. The urge it will always exist 598 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: in us and the idea that you're repressing even a 599 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: portion of that. It is so sad and. 600 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: It seems to have a lot of consequences. I think 601 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: we've seen time and time again, right, Yeah, like repressing 602 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: that part of yourself and that's what's sad. Is like 603 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, we just like And now I 604 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: feel corny because I don't do anything. I'm actually pretty vanilla. 605 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 2: I'm not even as exciting as rappers, which does that hurt? Yeah, 606 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: a little bit, because we're all living under this crazy 607 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: hyper masculine thing, masculinity thing where it's like. 608 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: You don't want a good, pushing full d every day 609 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: some Yeah, I feel the same way. Yeah, that's crazy. 610 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: I never wanted to get late as much as rappers 611 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: to It's like, honestly, it takes more time than I'm 612 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: willing to give to it. 613 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely like it a lot, a lot, a lot, 614 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: But it isn't Uh, it isn't all consuming for me. 615 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: There are something and motivated by and sometimes those things 616 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: help me circle back to that sweet pussy I've been 617 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: looking for. But but it ain't It isn't for me 618 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: as fun without also the other cool shit that I 619 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: get to do. Like pussy feels empty. 620 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that especially as a black I 621 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: don't know about I feel like being in my early 622 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: early twenties as a black man, you felt like this 623 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: is supposed to be the point. 624 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: Of your life. 625 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 2: And if you find that lacking for me, it makes 626 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: it does make you feel you're like, you're like, is 627 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: there something wrong with me? 628 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 629 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like I am I I 630 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 2: must not be healthy, I must not be right. Man. 631 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: If I don't feel all these real man urges for 632 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: constant pussy. 633 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when you get older, the guys who 634 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: are still doing that, you're like, damn, I feel it 635 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: doesn't it's not it's not good. 636 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: No, it looks bad after a while, where you're like, oh, 637 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: big man, I doubted myself early, but I'm centered now. 638 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: I get that I'm okay. 639 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: And what are you proving? I don't think it's like 640 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: you get to an agent somewhere where you're like, I 641 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: don't think it's cool that you get pussy anyone. 642 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, man, chill out. You had your phil move 643 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: down the buffet line. For the love of God, where 644 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: is your son? There's only so many slices of honey 645 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: baked Ham that that man is gonna cut off for 646 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: you and after a while you gotta move off the 647 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: buffet line. 648 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: I mean it speaks to like, but I mean like 649 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: people talk about it, right, did you read we Real Cool? 650 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, she talks about it a lot, which 651 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: was the first time don't look at which is the 652 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 2: first time I ever heard anybody talk about it specifically 653 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 2: with the black man, And like, what you're looking for 654 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 2: is intimacy, But you go through sex and you'll always 655 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: find yourself wanting, so you won't ever because like it is, 656 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: like it's just that hyper sexualization. That shit's crushing us man, 657 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: because it doesn't give you space to explore the rest 658 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 2: of what you could be. Yeah, it's it's. 659 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: Like the biggest fucking thing that holds men back. It 660 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: truly is like number one on the call sheet. The 661 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: thing that's ruining us most is our unwillingness to fucking 662 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: just not be men all the time as we define them. 663 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: And how do we beat that? Oh, can't we beat that? 664 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know if it's possible, 665 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, it really like we truly 666 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: want a generation of young men put on dresses and 667 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: sort of demand to be empowered and seen and and 668 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: fighting for sort of like shifts in these cultures and beliefs, 669 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: and like now niggas just wear colorful nails and call 670 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: each other the F word like it ain't it didn't, 671 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: It doesn't deal. I think, yeah, you know what I mean. 672 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: It's just like you. You can be queer and homophobic now, 673 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: which is good, I guess. I don't know. 674 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 2: I know for me personally, because it's like we're having 675 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: this conversation, but we're having this conversation because it's me 676 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: and you. For every one of these conversations, there's ten 677 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: just regular conversations with some dudes where you try to 678 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 2: bring some ship up like this and you are struck 679 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: down to it. I'm not even the barbershop and you're like, 680 00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna cut that day. Then I get killed. 681 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: Now, if any of y'all thought we were in our 682 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: barbershops being brave, you are mistaken. 683 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm barely talking. 684 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: Those men say vile, vile things, and I I nod 685 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: politely and watch the game, and. 686 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: I laughed, but not loud enough to hurt my soul. 687 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Because like when you talk to an old guy. 688 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 2: You just give him what he you know, what he wants. 689 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta give him what they want. This man 690 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: is in charge of my air. I'm not about to 691 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: correct him. My mama told me Presents the Start to 692 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: Steal Tour. We're very excited about it. I'm not about 693 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: to bite my tongue. We want to sell it out 694 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: and the dates are coming up fast, and so if 695 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: you live in one of these areas, we want you 696 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: to buy your tickets now. It's all available on our instagrams, 697 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: on our websites, on our link tree. But we'll be 698 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: in Atlanta on Halloween, October thirty first. November one, We're 699 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: in Houston, November two, Austin, November third, Dallas. We're in Brooklyn. 700 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: On November seventh. We're in Somerville, Massachusetts. It's Boston, Bitch, 701 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: Get over It. November eighth. November tenth, we're in Philly. 702 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: November seventeenth, we're in San Francisco. We want y'all to 703 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: come out. We want y'all to kick it. We will 704 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: be doing our coveted live show with special guests, with 705 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: just me and David. Depending on the city, it'll be 706 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,479 Speaker 1: a great time. 707 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: All that meet and greets you've been Chris Brown has 708 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: a good meet and greet. 709 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: Bro. Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with 710 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: you for free. 711 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: When I think about all this, too, I do think 712 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: it's like I think it's also this all speaks to 713 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: this level of like aggressiveness and alertness that we're supposed 714 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: to have that does not allow you to like really 715 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 2: relax and search for yourself. Yeah, I think that's what 716 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: I think the shame is in a lot of this. 717 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: I think the alertness exists in almost in a multitude 718 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: of ways for black men, where it's like you have 719 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: to be on constant alert of like violence and racism 720 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: against you, you have to be on constant alert about 721 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: sort of like your impression as this aggressive, scary figure 722 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: in society, and you have to be on constant alert 723 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: about the feminization of the black man that's somehow that 724 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: is also a weapon against us. And that dangerous sort 725 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: of trifecta of alertness then makes it so that you 726 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 1: never have even a second to just be like, oh, 727 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: this is me independent of a lot of the things 728 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: that are existing around me. I can just be myself. 729 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: You don't get that moment but and within all that, 730 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: because I think the pushback on that is like, we 731 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: can talk all this in theory, but like, are you 732 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: safe to let that go down? Have not? Yeah? 733 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 2: Not not in all scenarios. I think, like you and 734 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: I are pretty lucky to have the freedom to do 735 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: this type of thing, But I don't know if that 736 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 2: is for everyone. 737 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching a video the other day of this, uh, 738 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: this gay dude and a roller skating ring where he 739 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: like he'll like slide. 740 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: I saw that he was buzzing it. 741 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be busting it wide up and in front 742 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: of in front of dudes who just wanted to be 743 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: heterosexual man at the roller skating ring. He got so 744 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: mad and they get real mad and like confused and 745 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: they don't know what to do. And it's funny, like 746 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: it legitimately made me laugh that this person does that. 747 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: But then a bunch of the comments were sort of 748 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: like quickest way to get yourself killed, like nigga, you 749 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: you bugging, Like hey, I get it, bitbit, but like 750 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: you better chill the fuck out type shit, and it's 751 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: like whoa damn. Yeah, we can't even let a silly 752 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: billy be a silly billy without it turning into like 753 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: a he might die, and and they're not. They're not 754 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 1: saying it as a threat. They're saying legitimately, you gotta 755 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: relax because that. 756 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 2: And that's the interesting thing about it, right, is that 757 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 2: it's like, so that video is kind of complicated because 758 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: he was like evading people's face and whatever. You can't 759 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 2: do that. 760 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: But it's like the. 761 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: Tone of those comments are like, don't be yourself. It's 762 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: too much. You're you're too much. You're being too much, 763 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Even like the idea of 764 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 2: being cool is this like idea of don't show too 765 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: much of anything. 766 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that it's not me defending the person. 767 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: And this silliness of it, I do think it's a 768 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: simil I don't think that, But I also don't necessarily 769 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: it's not a silly I would do, because I would 770 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: fear exactly what you're talking about of like invasion of 771 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: space and privacy and just the idea of standing that 772 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: close to men in general is not how I would 773 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: want to be busted wide open. That said, it is 774 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: crazy that it can't just be silly, Like we don't 775 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: even have the room in us to be like, well, 776 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: that's just silly, because the threat of sexuality from a 777 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: man need requires us to fucking like flex and hulk 778 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: and defy everything silly inside of this. 779 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 2: And that's the tragedy. I think it also speaks to 780 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 2: this the stakes of what it is to be a 781 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 2: black man and feels so high stakes sometimes. Yeah, and 782 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: that's the burden that I feel like we're and that 783 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 2: and that's one thing that is truly racial. And I 784 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 2: don't think I don't think it's like classist or I 785 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 2: think it cuts through everything through to this thing at 786 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: your core where you're like, you can be silly in 787 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 2: certain places and venues, but overall, the stakes to my 788 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 2: behavior are very high. 789 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: I could. 790 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't feel like when I talk to white peers 791 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 2: and things like that, they don't seem to speak to 792 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: the idea that they could lose it all as much 793 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,479 Speaker 2: or that they have to be careful right as much 794 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 2: as it feels like when I talk just like an 795 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 2: average black man. 796 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: You you made the point before we were recording that 797 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,479 Speaker 1: you think it's beaten are ass the most? Oh? Yeah 798 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: that was gonna say that too. Yeah, definitely, that like 799 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: legitimately of homophobia is beating the fuck out of black 800 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: men more than any other race and community. 801 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: Bro, Like it's all the shit. We can't eat hot 802 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 2: dogs even the pause ship is. 803 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 6: But like for real, bro, but like for real, that's crazy. 804 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 6: That's crazy because of some persie And it's like, okay, 805 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 6: ha ha, it is a joke, but then it's ultimately 806 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 6: it's like, but living under that even as a joke, 807 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 6: is a burden that it feels heavy to carry to me. 808 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 1: Bro, Sometimes I just don't feel like being in a bit, 809 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: And if I want a hot dog on a day 810 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: when I don't feel like being in a bit, then 811 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: I am in prison because I either don't get what 812 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: I want or I get what I want, and now 813 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm being forced to play inside of the game that 814 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: I never wanted to play in the first place. I 815 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: just wanted a fucking hot. 816 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: Dog, right, And to that point, it's like it's like 817 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: the same as like the cock lacking shit where it's like. 818 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: Fuck, where do you go to? 819 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 2: Because like the homophobia and that ship I think is 820 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 2: instilled in men and women. So then it becomes like 821 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 2: if I can't pull that guard down in front of 822 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 2: my partner, where it just feels it just feels like 823 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: it's stunting the amount of life you're able to experience. 824 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, truly. I remember when I was playing basketball, 825 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: I like putting my hands on my hips. That's that's 826 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: a good place for me, is hands on my hips. 827 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: And I realized at some point that turning your hands 828 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: backwards also actually feels pretty good with your hands on 829 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: your hips. 830 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 2: And my I because I know what you're gonna say 831 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 2: is so funny and I'm going to laugh, So before 832 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 2: I laugh in your face, whatever this story is, I'm 833 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 2: sorry that happened to you, because that's not fair. 834 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: Because I saw big wing. Wait a minute, no, no, no, no, 835 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: no, no no, this isn't a trauma story. 836 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: You don't get to do that to me. 837 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying that I discovered that that is a good 838 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: feeling privately, and there was something in me that knew 839 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: well enough that I can never be that guy. I 840 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: it is not possible for me to be at my 841 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: most comfortable physically while I'm playing a sport that I 842 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: played as hard as I possibly could at the time 843 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: that I was playing it, because of a fear that 844 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: somebody will call me something I'm not even you know 845 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: that afraid of in theory, but associated with me I 846 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: think is somehow this life destroying idea. 847 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 2: Brother, and that shit is like because I seen when 848 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: you said that, I was thinking about the like when 849 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 2: you put your your palms on your lower back, that's. 850 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about. 851 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, if I'm doing it right now, it feels 852 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 2: so nice. I'm only doing it because my girl's not here. 853 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: Like it feels nice, it feels great. But how do 854 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 2: you feel like that repression, that constant guard is not 855 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: leaked out into other areas where it becomes like if 856 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 2: the thing, if you are limited in expression to only 857 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 2: a few things, those few things, I think there's a 858 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 2: possibility that they can become very very They could they 859 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 2: could almost be too much like you can't spread it 860 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 2: all out if you If you people feel like they 861 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 2: can only express themselves fully wherever, then it's like, damn 862 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: that that just is like full on repression. And that's 863 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 2: so it's just it's just that's a that's a that's 864 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 2: a tough line to have to tell you. 865 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: I think about all the things that keep happening with 866 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp in terms of his physical appearance, and how 867 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: often that is equated to some sort of like gayness queerness. 868 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 1: His clothes, in particular, are always getting that. You're sending 869 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: pictures of him in the littlest outfits that ever could 870 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: be for this big, giant, hulking man. No socks, often 871 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: they're capris. More often than not. It always looks insane 872 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: the outfits that he posts. And some of that is 873 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 1: to me that leaking out of like, Oh, this is 874 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: just a dude who wants to be able to explore 875 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: different options for how he should look, but he can't 876 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: because he he's afraid of the possibility of that coming 877 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: off as anything other than like hyper masculine, and so 878 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: instead he's like, all I wear is suits and ath 879 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: leisure wear, and then nobody will ever suspect me of 880 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: being anything but a man. And it don't look good. 881 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: You look odd, bro. They don't build it for you 882 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: that way. You're too big, You're too damn big. You 883 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: need some big floey Steve Harvey pants, but you can't 884 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: get there because you're too worried. 885 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: You need his a dress. Yeah, the problem with that 886 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 2: is that he would look funny. 887 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: In a dress. 888 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: That's just a comedian of me. That's just a comedian 889 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 2: of me, he. 890 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: Would look funny because he'd be so self conscious in 891 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: that dress. There's no way he wouldn't be pulling on 892 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: it and trying to make sure his big, hulking titty 893 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: is put away. It just too much what you. 894 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 2: Need to do is like, that's why I think the 895 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 2: black men who can do it strong. What's Therondar a dress? 896 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 2: And he's Jamaican who did Bust the Rhymes? 897 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he was kind of an outlighter and man, 898 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: there are also a lot of private theories about him 899 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: as well. Oh really, I didn't the same nature. Yeah 900 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: that he Bust the Rhymes is very vocally homophobic in 901 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: a way that is either Jamaican or a dude hiding 902 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,280 Speaker 1: a deep, dark secret. 903 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: Man. I was really excited about this conversation. I was 904 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 2: just gotta be kind of bummed out. 905 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's hard. I think it's good that we. 906 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 2: Can have conversations like this and that it can go 907 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: out to some people. I think that even within this 908 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 2: conversation in my head, I'm like, I think some people 909 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 2: are here. 910 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is so hard to number one, 911 00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: allow people to space to recognize themselves enough that they 912 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: can identify sexuality and identity and separate them from the 913 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,439 Speaker 1: shit that we were trained to believe. But I think 914 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 1: even more complicated is recognizing, even as you have made 915 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: some of those efforts towards undoing that bad thinking, you 916 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: ain't all the way there yet. You know what I mean? 917 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: That like I am, I am very proudly anti all 918 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: of the homophobia that I think I was in many 919 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: ways trained to believe as normal and see as okay. 920 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,720 Speaker 1: And even in that, I am not fully finished cooking 921 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 1: as a true like advocate ally in the most pure 922 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: sense of the word truly truly. 923 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, y'all, we 924 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 2: just want to put our hands in our hands. 925 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: We all just want to put our hands on it 926 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 1: can there And only a few of us are brave 927 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 1: enough to actually do it, And and. 928 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 2: That's all they can dunk. 929 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: Their name is Dennis Rodman, and they that's how I 930 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: learned it, because Dennis used to do it. I was like, 931 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: fuck manny, I'm gonna try it, let me see. And 932 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: it was phenomenal. 933 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 2: It just eases the pressure. 934 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: Man. It's just nice man to put your wrists in 935 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: a different position than they're normally, so it gives you 936 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: a nice stretch there. Yeah. Yeah, I got a big back, 937 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: so's it's stretching out. But you're only doing that because 938 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: it came See your hands and your hips. 939 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I would not. I would not. I 940 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: would not lower the laptop screen for a million dollars. 941 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: Well, we could talk hands on the hips all day, 942 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: but the truth is we did it. I think we 943 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: we covered everything all was said that needed to be 944 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: set on this subject. And if you have issues with 945 00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: any of our deep rooted homophobia, I don't know, beat 946 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: me up, But what are you gonna do? Also, if 947 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: you can't tell, so do we? I don't like this. 948 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to be this way. You want to 949 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: tell the people where they can find you. 950 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 2: Cool guy joke S eighty seven on Instagram, Patreon, dot com, 951 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 2: backslash David Bori to purchase my special Birth of a 952 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 2: Nation with the g It's very funny. Everybody's raving about it. 953 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: Major Hollywood press is making articles now they've all seen it. 954 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: They can't get off my chalk. And then oh here's one. 955 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 2: October twenty fourth to twenty seventh, Bay Area. I am 956 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 2: coming to Rooster t Feathers at Sunnyvale, California, just a 957 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: stones throw from San Jose and down the street from 958 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,959 Speaker 2: San Francisco. If you're out in the bay, come fuck 959 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 2: with me, please, they emailed me. I have not sold 960 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 2: any tickets. They're talking about clipping a day. I would 961 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 2: love it if you would. My courier is not going great. 962 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 2: You ever had that day? 963 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: Ever? 964 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 2: Try to clip a day, buddy? 965 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: Have I not ever had that? Yeah? That's the worst. Yeah, 966 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: away from me, I don't think I'm traveling. 967 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 2: As always. 968 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: You can follow me at Langston Carmen on all social 969 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: media platforms and you can watch my special it's called 970 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: Bad Poetry. It's on Netflix. You can watch English Teacher 971 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: it's on Ffects. And you can come see us on tour. 972 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: David and I are going on tour, the Start to 973 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: Steal twenty twenty four tour. We're hitting a bunch of 974 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: great cities because because motherfucker, we need you all there 975 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: and we ain't ain't cutting it short. There's only one 976 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: day of us. No, we're doing cut a day, be 977 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: better or not? If they cut a day, we bet yeah. 978 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: But we would love to see you there at all 979 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: of our dates, and we're excited it's gonna be a 980 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: really fun tour. We've started booking a lot of great 981 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: fucking guests that are gonna be cool and surprising and 982 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: really hilarious. So please come out buy your tickets. We 983 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: have a link tree at My Mama Told Me Pod 984 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: and you'll figure it out. 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