1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Happy Saturday, everybody. It is our favorite month of the 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: show and the best month of the year in my opinion. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: And to kick it off, we are going back to 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: a previous October episode, The Beast of Gevadon, which came 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: out on October. So in the course of this episode, 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: we make a passing reference to a website about whether 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: England was at war with France. And if you get 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: to that point and you're like, what are they talking about? 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Several years ago we basically joked about how England and 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: France were at war with each other so frequently that 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: there should just be one of those websites where you 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: could put in a year and it would tell you 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: yes or no, were they at war. After we made 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: that joke, two different listeners made one of these websites. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: One of those websites is still active. We will put 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: a link in the show notes, so enjoy. Welcome to 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of I 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Polly Frying. So recently 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I asked for Halloween episode suggestions because I had this 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: whole list of Halloween episode suggestions, and really none of 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: them were peaking my interest at all. That happens, Yeah, 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: it's I had sort of analysis paralysis about Halloween episodes. Um, 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: then Helene suggested the Beast of Jeffadon, and the second 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: that I made sure that there was a legitimate academic 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: source in English that I had access to, I stopped 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: looking for any other Halloween topic because this one is 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: frightening and grizzly and just deeply fascinating. So, uh, that's 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: your heads up if you if you need for a 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: warning about frightening, grizzly things, this is frightening and grizzly. 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: For hundreds of years, wolf attacks in Europe were really 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: not all that rare. Today, the sort of ecologists motto 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: is that healthy wolves don't attack humans, but this was 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: absolutely untrue in early modern Europe. There were thousands of 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: attacks by rabid wolves and thousands more attacks by apparently 36 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: healthy wolves. There had even been multiple incidents in this 37 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: period in which the same wolf or a group of 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: wolves killed multiple people over a period of weeks or months. 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: So wolves in general were considered to be a threat, 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: and uh, any kind of outdoor work, especially if it 41 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: was around animals like sheep or goats that might attract 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: wolves was considered to be inherently dangerous, but the attacks 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: that struck the Jevadan region in the seventeen sixties really 44 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: stand out in particular, almost exclusively. The victims were women 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: and children, mostly attacked while they were tending animals. Um. 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: The men were generally left alone and when they were 47 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: doing the exact same work. The beasts method of killing 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: was also horrific. In description after description, people talked about 49 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: it dropping onto a victim in broad daylight, ripping out 50 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: its throat, often decapitating the person entirely. So people were 51 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: scared of wolves, but they were terrified of this beast um, 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: which is why we're going to talk about it today. 53 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. Uh So for some context, the Javidant region 54 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: in the south of France was remote and sparsely settled 55 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: at this time, so most of its people made their 56 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: livings as farmers and shepherds. The terrain was forested and mountainous, 57 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: There were lots of rocky outcroppings, and all of this 58 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: put it UH kind of made it UH an area 59 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: that was sort of perfect for or perfectly dangerous for 60 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: wolf attacks. The beasts. First recorded victor him in the 61 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Javadon was a fourteen year old named Jean Boulet, who 62 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: was killed while watching over livestock at the end of 63 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: June seventeen sixty four, and then on August eighth, a 64 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: fifteen year old girl was killed, followed by a sixteen 65 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: year old boy. A couple of weeks later, in September, 66 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: things took a deadlier turn, with four attacks claiming the 67 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: lives of a thirty six year old woman and several 68 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: more youths. Because the wolf attacks were already so common, 69 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: and because some of these in particular happened more than 70 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: twenty miles apart from each other, it was only after 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: this particularly deadly period in September that people realized something 72 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: different was going on. During this time, France was divided 73 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: into administrative regions known as generality. By October, the generality 74 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: second in command, Etienne la France, started trying to organize 75 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: a constant series of patrols to protect people and find 76 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: this wolf. Working with a local landowner, he tried to 77 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: keep eight or ten people on watch at all times, 78 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: but he had a little bit of trouble recruiting people 79 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: were already pretty scared to stray far from their homes 80 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: and into their own fields. Uh So getting them to 81 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: go patrol other people's fields was not exactly the easiest cell. 82 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Lafon wound up securing funds to actually pay people, and 83 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: he started talking to the higher ups in the generality 84 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: about the possibility of bringing in professional soldiers. Dragoon captains 85 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Jean Baptiste Duamel was stationed nearby and was also active 86 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: in the hunt. He and his men started scouring areas 87 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: near where the attacks had happened, hoping to find the culprit. 88 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: It was around October that in people's minds, at least, 89 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: the culprit shifted from being an animal to being some 90 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: sort of monster. People's letters and even news reports went 91 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: from describing a bete faro a general, sort of generic 92 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: description of a ferocious beast, to talking about the bet 93 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: with a capital B or lament so the monster. People 94 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: in more urban and affluent parts of France didn't really 95 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: believe in werewolves anymore, but that idea was still pretty 96 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: entrenched in the more rural parts of the country. The 97 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: beast decapitated a twenty year old woman on October seven, 98 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: and it took a week for people to find her skull. 99 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Between October seven and fifteen, six teenagers and a ten 100 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: year old boy were attacked, with most of them sustaining 101 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: huge injuries to their heads and faces. Only four of 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: these victims survived. Newspaper started describing the beast as being 103 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: deliberately bloodthirsty, apparently drinking the victim's blood from their next 104 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: before moving on to the flesh. Etienne la Fonte advised 105 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: the women and children tending the flox that they be 106 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: escorted at all times by armed men, and this some 107 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: fortunately opened the door to some victim blaming. The economy 108 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: in this part of France was still really feudial. Men 109 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and women and children all had work to do, and 110 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: all of the work was necessary for their survival, so 111 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: men really did not have the option of dropping what 112 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: they were doing to escort women and uh. Women and 113 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: children didn't have the option to just stay out of 114 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: the fields until they had a man with them. They 115 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: also didn't have the option of just swapping jobs, since 116 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: all of these jobs involved being outdoors for the most part, 117 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: and people didn't just sit around cowering. Though it's important 118 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: to note the hunting parties and patrols that had been established, 119 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: cleared brush, and they gave chase whenever they saw an 120 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: animal that they thought might be the culprit. They killed 121 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: more than one wolf in all of this, but the 122 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: attacks went on. By the end of October, pretty much 123 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: everybody in the Javanant region agreed that they were not 124 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: dealing with a normal wolf. Eye witness accounts really varied 125 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: dramatically and what the beast looked like. Some of them 126 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: described it as having talents, several described it as having 127 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: this dark stripe that ran down its back um. The 128 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: one unifying part of all the descriptions was that it 129 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: was much bigger than a normal wolf. People theorized that 130 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: it could be a range of animal suspects, including a 131 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: wolf of course, uh hyena was also mentioned, some kind 132 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: of wolf, dog, hyena, hybrid, even a monkey was brought 133 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: up as a possibility. And this last seems to have 134 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: started by a report in a newspaper called Curier, which 135 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: quoted an American woman who said her country was full 136 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: of fearsome monkeys that did exactly this kind of thing, 137 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: which makes me go, really, I'm like quade, really, American lady. 138 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: So the explanation for how a hyena or a monkey 139 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: could have gotten into the south of France was that 140 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: they had stowed away aboard a ship or maybe escaped 141 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: from a menagerie. Um. This theory was actually a source 142 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: of hope to people who thought that if this was 143 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: some kind of tropical animal, that it would just die 144 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: when the winter came. It was probably also somewhat soothing 145 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: to consider that it could be something escaped from a 146 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: menagerie rather than an actual, uh sort of unnatural monster, 147 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: that that would be more of an unknown slightly less 148 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: brightening yeah. Uh. So late in October, a small group 149 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: of hunters on the search for the beast flushed a 150 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: large wolf from its den and they shot it repeatedly. 151 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: And this large wolf was slowed by the bullets, but 152 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: it could still move more quickly than the men that 153 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: were chasing it, and so it got away and they 154 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: never found the body uh and came to the conclusion 155 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: that it had somehow survived their gunfire. This contributed to 156 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: the idea that there was something supernatural at work. It 157 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: really shouldn't be surprising that as these attacks went on, 158 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: since they were just spectacularly gory and horrified, ring newspapers 159 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: became increasingly sensational in their coverage of it. Here's an 160 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: account of an event in November. Quote on the twenty three, 161 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: at five o'clock in the evening, this cruel beast throttled 162 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: a woman in a village, and after having eaten the 163 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: neck all the way down to the shoulders and having 164 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: sucked the blood from the body, it carried away. The 165 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: head hunters, Uh, in sort of a grizzly move, began 166 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: using the remains of the beast's victims as bait. They 167 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: were hoping to draw the creature out again. Uh. Not 168 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: only did it not work, it also upset people understandably, 169 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: and as the fall turned to winter, the weather started 170 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: to seriously get in the way of effectively hunting. Before 171 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: we talk about the next major shift in all of this, Holly, 172 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: would you like to take a moment for a brief 173 00:10:51,640 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: word from a sponsor and would Indeed, in December, the 174 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: dragoons led by Jehan Baptist Damel found what they thought 175 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: was the beast while they were hunting through the forest. 176 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: Doom L himself was prepared to fire on it he 177 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: had it in his sights, but the other men, not 178 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: realizing what was going on, came up behind him and 179 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: startled it. They unfortunately lost sight of the beast as 180 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: the sun went down. Doom L was deeply distressed by this, 181 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: not merely because he had missed their corey at the 182 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: likely expense of more lives being lost, but he also 183 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: had a little bit of an ego element in the 184 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: in the mix. He didn't want to lose the glory 185 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: of being the one that took the beast down. Yeah, 186 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: he was a soldier and had you know, gotten a 187 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: claim on the field of battle before, and now that 188 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: he was not in a battle, he was very frustrated 189 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: by the failure to get more acclaim and fortunately this 190 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: was just the first of many of Doomel's fail years 191 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: to capture his quarry. As people started to question whether 192 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: he knew what he was doing, he started distributing drawings 193 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: and telling people really vivid accounts of this monster to 194 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: try to convince everyone that it wasn't his fault. He 195 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: was sort of building this mythology that the creature was 196 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: too powerful and too obviously supernatural to be caught quickly, 197 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: and a seventeen sixty four drew to a close. A 198 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: bishop from the church put out an official circular that 199 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: said that the beast was a scourge sent by God. 200 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: So it just built that mythology up a little bit more. 201 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: In January of seventeen sixty five, D M. L started 202 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: sending out his dragoons dressed as women to try to 203 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: escort women and children about their duties in the fields. 204 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: He was hoping that the wolf would mistake them for 205 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: a woman in attack, since it mostly attacked women and children. Uh, 206 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: this didn't work. I like that the beast could clock 207 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: their drag um. On January twelfth, a twelve year old 208 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: boy known as porta Fe reportedly chased down the wolf 209 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: and attacked it with a bayonet after it had attacked 210 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: and dragged off a small child. Uh. Porta Fe became 211 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: famous for this act of extreme bravery or foolishness, depending 212 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: on your point of view, Although there were accounts of 213 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: it that were heavily embellished, and the different accounts of 214 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: what actually happened very quite a bit from one to another. 215 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: Porta Fay, however, became a rallying cry. Duomel, becoming kind 216 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: of desperate to uh to catch the thing and to 217 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: maintain his his reputation, organized a massive hunt to take 218 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: place on February seventh, seventeen sixty five. This was not 219 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: the first coordinated hunt that was going to take place 220 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: for multiple parts of this area in France at the 221 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: same time, but it was definitely the biggest. About twenty 222 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: thousand people gathered in about one hundred different parishes, and 223 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: in spite of their being heavy fog that day and 224 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: about six inches of snow on the ground, search parties 225 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: spread out from their respective communities at the same time 226 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: to try to find the beast. One party thought they did, 227 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: and as they pursued the animal that they believed to 228 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: be the beast, it tried to escape down a river. 229 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: Villagers in the town of Malzieu were supposed to be 230 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: patrolling the river banks, but one of that town's most 231 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: prominent citizens had said he would stay home if the 232 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: weather was bad, and enough people followed his example that 233 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: the beast easily slipped through this hole in the defenses. However, 234 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: and perhaps in an effort to save face, a hunting 235 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: party from Malsa claimed that it had seen and shot 236 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: the beast, so Duomel abandoned his original plan, which was 237 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: to have a second massive hunt on the eleventh. If 238 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the one on the seventh failed. Instead, he arranged a 239 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: smaller hunt to focus just on the area around Malgia, 240 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: to take place on the tenth. As they were hunting, 241 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: a teenage girl was killed while feeding her livestock. Duom 242 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: L regrouped and prepared to keep hunting near where that 243 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: attack had occurred on the eleventh, using the girl's body 244 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: as bait. They did not succeed on the eleventh, and 245 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: they tried again on the twelfth, this time fighting biting 246 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: windy weather, and in spite of their multi day attempt 247 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: and with so many hunters on the on the team, 248 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: they found nothing. On his return from this hunt, d 249 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: am L again tried to explain his failure and retain 250 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: his position with a supernatural explanation. According to him, the 251 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: beast was a witch or the devil. After all, twenty 252 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: thousand men, which he in his telling rounded up to 253 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: thirty thou had failed to get it, so it had 254 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: to be magical or supernatural. Okay, he was really getting 255 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: desperate to hold onto his position. What he did not 256 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: know was that his replacement, says basically wolf Hunter in Chief, 257 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: had already been chosen and were on their way to 258 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: the Jevadon. Jean Charles Marc Antoine de Vonzelle Donnevale of 259 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Normandy took Jean Baptiste Dummels place in the fight against 260 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: the Beast of Jebudon. They arrived in February with Jean 261 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: Charles son Jean Francois accompanying his father. The DNA Val 262 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: did not get along with the wolf hunters and the Jevadant. 263 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: They made demands for help and for accommodations that rankled people. 264 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: They were simultaneously overconfident and underprepared. Some of the other 265 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: wolf hunters, who had been searching the Jevadon for months, 266 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: decided that they were frauds. You know how, in bad, 267 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: badly written crime dramas you have the scene where the 268 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: local police have been trying really hard to catch the 269 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: killer and then some really slick FBI guys come in 270 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: and stop all over their investigation. It was like that, Yeah, 271 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: they were all swagger and did not really have the skills. Meanwhile, 272 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: in March, the London Chronicle published an obviously satirical article, 273 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: possibly written by Horace Walpole, about the beasts, saying that 274 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: it had eaten the entire French army and was found 275 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: to have mortars cannons and at least one hundred small 276 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: arms in its belly when it was slain. This really 277 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: annoyed the people of France in the monarchy because a 278 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of people had been killed in the je Boudon already, 279 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: so to kind of make fun of the whole thing 280 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: was kind of a slap in the face. We should 281 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: put these ears into the was England at war with 282 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: France websites? Yeah, I don't think that they were, but 283 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: they were socially they were having some issues. Um. Even 284 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: in light of the fact that France was facing facing 285 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: international criticism for its failure to take care of this 286 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: wolf problem, and King Louis himself was eager to have 287 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: this beast killed, The dentevals did not do much in 288 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: March or April. They just did not seem to be 289 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: in a big hurry. They blamed low cool people for 290 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: all manner of ills and for their failure to get 291 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: the beast. Meanwhile, there were fourteen deaths over those two months, 292 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: one death in particular of note. On March thirteenth, the 293 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: beast attacked a group of children in the garden outside 294 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: their home, and their mother, Jeanne Varley, was with them 295 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: and reported to be pregnant. She turned to see the 296 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: beast attack her six year old, and in a struggle 297 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: that went on for several minutes, Varley climbed onto the 298 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: beasts back in an effort to wrestle her child from 299 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: its jaws. When she fell off, it jumped over a hedge, 300 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: and she gave chase. One of her older children was 301 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: inside the house and he heard the commotion and came 302 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: out with a lance and the family sheep dog, and 303 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: he chased the animal and they basically fought it until 304 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: it tired out, abandoned its quarry, and ran away. The 305 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: six year old, unfortunately didn't survive, although the rest of 306 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: the family did, and Varley's story spread as one of 307 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: heroic tragedy. So she became kind of an emblem of 308 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: the need to get this over with. Yeah, I'm sure 309 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: that was a little bit of an ego blow to 310 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: all of these hunters that a pregnant woman and her 311 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: children had kind of had better luck at least kind 312 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: of running this animal down than they had with their 313 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: firepower and hunting knowledge. Uh. In early May, the Denival 314 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: started trying to combat the wolves by poisoning the bodies 315 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: of their victims and leaving them out as bait. This 316 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: did not work and once again upset people. Then in 317 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: mid May, there was a two week period with no 318 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: wolf attacks. The Denevals took credit for it, and they 319 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: said they must have actually killed a wolf that they'd 320 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: shot and had then gotten away earlier in the month. 321 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: Then when another attack happened on May nineteen, they started 322 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: trying to seek the protection of the king. At first, 323 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: I they were afraid that their actions were going to 324 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: catch up with them and that they themselves might come 325 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: to harm. They were finally forced to leave town and 326 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: their reputations were in shreds. And before we turn to 327 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: a little happier part of this story, let's take another 328 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: brief moment for a word from a sponsor that sounds grand. 329 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: So the Denevals who have been run out of town 330 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: were soon replaced by Francois Antoine, who was the king's 331 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: gun bearer. He organized hunts with dogs and men, using 332 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: dogs in particular to try to cover the regions more 333 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: difficult to rain, and unlike the Dnevals, he was extremely polite. 334 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: He gained the trust and the affection of the locals. 335 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: He did not walk in with a bunch of attitude 336 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: and swagger. He really tried to work with them, and 337 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: he worked through the summer of seventeen sixty five as 338 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: the deaths continued to find the beast. On September, Antoine 339 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: caught sight of a wolf so big that at first 340 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: he thought it was a donkey. From about fifty paces away. 341 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: He shot it with a long barreled musket that he 342 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: loaded with a lead ball, along with lots of other 343 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: smaller pieces of shot. The animal was hit, but it 344 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: wasn't killed. It got to its feet and went after Antoine, 345 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: who had to retreat. Rather than trying to reload his weapon. 346 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: Monsieur Riehard, who was an officer of the hunt, delivered 347 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: the actual killing shot. They took the wolf's body to 348 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: a nearby chateau, and then they brought in people who 349 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: had either witnessed or survived attacks to identify it. They 350 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: all agreed that this was the wolf that attacked them, 351 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: and even so Antoine urged people not to drop their guard. 352 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: Yet pretty much everyone in the Jevadan who looked at 353 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: it agreed that the thing was enormous, and as Antoine 354 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: and others told the story over and over at depositions, 355 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: and when talking to the newspapers, this description just got 356 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Antoine said about hunting for any offspring 357 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: the beast may have had, and ordering an artisan to 358 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: construct a frame for its skin so that it could 359 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: be preserved and sent to the king. It wound up 360 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: being embalmed instead, and by the time that happened, it 361 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: had already started to decompose. The beast body arrived at 362 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Versailles on the first of October, but the court of 363 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Versailles was not nearly as impressed with it as the 364 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: people of the Javadan had been. They had really suffered 365 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: from some inflated expectations by people increasingly talking about how 366 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: more and more monstrous this thing was. Also because of 367 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: what we just discussed with the embalming it smelled. Antoine 368 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: finished his task of seeking and destroying wolves from around 369 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: the area where the beast had been killed on October seventeenth, 370 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: and for more than two months there were no more 371 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: wolf attacks. This is actually a you know, it's stretched 372 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: into like. That was two months from when he finished killing, 373 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: But it wound up that there weren't any deaths from 374 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: when he shot that wolf until December seventh, seventeen sixty 375 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: five day, two boys survived a wolf attack while they 376 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: were guarding cattle, and then an eleven year old girl 377 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: was killed on December twenty one. Unlike the first time around, 378 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: when it had taken so many deaths before people saw 379 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: it as a pattern, everyone immediately panicked. However, there was 380 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: also this uh kind of issue of saturation. Everyone also, 381 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: while they were quicker to recognize this danger, they were 382 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: also kind of tired of talking about this beast. Uh. 383 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: So there are far fewer newspaper reports and other records 384 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: detailing what happened between Francois Antoine killing a wolf on 385 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: septem s and Jean Shastel killing another one in August 386 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: of seventeen sixty seven. Yeah, so almost two years later. 387 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: The wolf that Shastel killed was big, although not nearly 388 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: as big as the one that Antoine had killed almost 389 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: two years before. However, Schastell followed what Antoine's had done. 390 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: Like owed his example, he rounded people up to I 391 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: d this wolf and say that it was the wolf 392 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: that had attacked them, and then he sent its body 393 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: to Versailles. However, by the time it arrived in Versailles, 394 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: it was extremely rotten. The king was extremely insulting to 395 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Chastel and his son for having just brought this rotten 396 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: wolf carcass into his presence, and the king ordered them 397 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: all away. Folklorist and researchers started documenting the Jevudin wolf 398 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: loor almost immediately. H In the eighteen eighties, a man 399 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: named Pierre Pouchet wrote an enormous history of the wolf. 400 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: And there are all kinds of theories about exactly what 401 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: this animal was, and whether it was acting on its 402 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: own or whether it had been trained to somehow attack people. 403 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: This last theory actually got a shot in the arm 404 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: when people realized that Jean Chastel had played a prank 405 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: on a wolf hunting party two years before. They had 406 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: basically said, hey, is this ground up here safe to 407 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: walk on? And he was like, yeah, it's awesome, and 408 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: it was actually a bo And so the wolf hunters 409 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: sunk into it up to their chests while he laughed 410 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: along the sidelines. Uh. There are people who were extremely 411 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: suspicious of him now and kind of wonder if he 412 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: had trained animals to attack other people, and that that 413 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: gap between killing one wolf and uh and another attack 414 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: happening was because he was having to retrain another animal 415 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: that gets some kind of conspiracy theory ideas not totally sure. 416 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: We should call Ben and Madden and see what they think. 417 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: We will probably never know for sure if this beast 418 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: was actually a wolf, or multiple wolves, or perhaps even 419 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: something else that hasn't been identified. More recently, the beast 420 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: makes an appearance in the movie Brotherhood of the Wolf. 421 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: I love that movie so much. I can't even describe. 422 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: That goes into the category of cinema that I like 423 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: to call out fromage because it's a little cheesy, but 424 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: it's also really fantastic fun and it has been sink Cassel, 425 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: which is the important part for me. Uh and the 426 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: Jevadan region is now part of the Department of Logier 427 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: that happened after the French Revolution, so that was not 428 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: in play when this was going on, right, So that 429 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: is the Beast of Jevadon creepy and yeah, the book 430 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: that was the primary source on this. Normally, when I 431 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: researched episodes, they're like fifteen or twenties sources at least um. 432 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: This one was mostly sourced from a book by J 433 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Smith called Monsters of the Jevadon, which was published by 434 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: Harvard University Press in two thousand and eleven. That's pretty 435 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: much the source in English on this story, so it 436 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: has a lot more dedale about various things that went 437 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: on if you were interested in it. I had to 438 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: get it from inter Library loan Um, which is I 439 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: had to time it just right. So if this story 440 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: interests you, I highly recommend that book. It gets into 441 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: sort of the beginning of it talks a lot about 442 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: how the the search for what was this animal kind 443 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: of distracts from the greater story of like why people 444 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: in France were so obsessed with this thing when it 445 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: was going on. So it's a good read. Thank you 446 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: so much for joining us on this Saturday. 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