1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Since starting this show, I have 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: never had a guest on more than once until today. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Because this actor means so much to so many people, 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: and with this show Young Royals officially finished after the 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: final season dropped a few weeks ago, I just had 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: to have him come on so that we could celebrate 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: an incredible run. Of course, I am referring to the 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: brilliant actor Edvn Riding so by now hopefully you have 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: heard my interview with the show creator Lisa and with 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Edvn's equally brilliant co star Omar So this just felt 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: like the missing puzzle piece as we send off such 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: an important show. Edvan has played Prince Wilhelm of Sweden 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: over the last three seasons, and we have followed his 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: journey with fellow student Simon and Erickson and all of 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: the wild, messy, beautiful drama that they're story brings. It's 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: one of the strongest representations of queer love in all 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: of television, which is one of the many reasons why 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: so many people have fallen in love with this show, 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: and to me, that deserves a celebration so let's see 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: if today we can get EDVN to say something that 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: he has never said before. Edvan, my man, it is 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: so good to see you. How you doing. 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm good, Thank you. It's good to see you too. 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we could do this. I know 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: you've been on a whirlwind and so much has been 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: going on, but it's always a good time to stop 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: and celebrate young royals. 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, of course, man, Like you said, it's been 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: a whirlwind, but I'm happy and it's beautiful and every 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 2: day I still see like the reactions to this last 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: season and it's just nice. It just makes you realize 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: how blessed you are to be able to be a 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: part of this. 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: I have to say, I've been seeing you all over 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the gram and in fashion spreads. I feel like you 37 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: are in your fashion era. Yes, you're doing the coolest 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: things with your style. You got the cool haircut. I mean, 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: is this just your time to experiment with it all? 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah. I mean I was, I dyed 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: the hair blonde, and that like catapulted me into a 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: lot of different stuff when it comes to fashion. You know, 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: I've started experimenting with it. I think you saw me 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 2: in Paris. I was wearing the hair with like spikes 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: in this hole. Yeah, it's good. I think I have 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: very very supportive people around me, which makes it like 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: a safe space for me to be able to experiment 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: this much. But I like it. I like it. 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: Well, you're looking good. I like that You're having fun. 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: It's so much fun to follow. All Right, we've got 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: to get down to business. So I imagine this is 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: probably one of your last interviews that is going to 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: be talking about young royals and depth. Is that correct? 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it is. It's crazy to think about 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: like three or may like four years coming to an end. Yeah, 56 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: it's it's actually insane. 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: So how have you been processing that? Have you been 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: going through a grieving phase? Has it been weird for you? Like, 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: how has it been going? 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 2: It sounds like such a cliche, but it truly has 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: been like a roller coaster of emotions. I've been Like 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: it was like ahead of shooting season three, I was 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: pretty like I felt kind of sentimental and kind of 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: like I had all these emotions about like, Okay, this 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: is the last time I need to, you know, think 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: about that. Da da da dah. But then like during 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: the course of the shooting, I was pretty good at 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: removing that from my mind while you know, being in 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: the process, thankfully, Otherwise I don't really know how I 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: would have been able to do this last season because then, 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: like when we were done, I was crying my eyes 72 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: out and I was so so like, not sad, it 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: was more emotion. I was feeling so emotional that this 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: beautiful thing that I've been so lucky to be a 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: part of was coming to an end. But then I 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: went straight into the next project and I haven't really 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: been too emotional about it since until we had this 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: fan screening here in Stockholm, because then everything just like 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: collapsed to everything. I was crying so much, but it 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: was beautiful. It was happy, happy, beautiful tears. 81 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I imagine being in a room full of super fans 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: cheering you on and watching the series through their eyes 83 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: through their lens must have been pretty damn special, huh. 84 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: It was one of the craziest things I've ever experienced. 85 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: It was so beautiful. Also, like for us, we've been 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: wanting to have like a premiere with an audience that 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 2: is not just like the cast and crew for so long, 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: and to finally be able to get that, and to 89 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: be able to do that with the fans in particularly, 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: not just like people from the same industry, just for 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: real fans flown in from all across the globe there 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: to show their love and to be able to like 93 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: show the final chapter with them and with the cast 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: and crew as well. It was monumental. Honestly, it's it's 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: we were all We were so emotional when we got backstage. 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: It was actually it was beautiful. 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: Did you have to take a minute backstage to collect 98 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: yourself after that? 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I had to like collect my mind and 100 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: hug everybody to just like try to get through the night. Yeah, 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: it was. It was a special moment. I won't forget it. 102 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Well, it was a special moment for so many people too, because, 103 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: as you know, with this character is so important to 104 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: so many people who have watched and followed this show. 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: For you, over all the years playing Willhem, what has 106 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: been the best part experiencing life in his shoes? 107 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: It's hard to answer, is in a way we've grown 108 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: into the same person, me and this character, Like we're 109 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: so connected in so many ways. But for me, I 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: think it's more of like what the process is meant 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: for me? Like I've learned so much professionally as an actor, 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: but also privately, like on a personal level, I've met 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: so many amazing people, and I've grown up during the 114 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: course of this show, and it's taught me so much 115 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: about like who I am as an actor and as 116 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: a person. I mean that goes for the character as well, 117 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: like him developing. I've learned some stuff about myself as well, 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: but that goes for like almost every character I play. 119 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: It's more of like it's almost like you sacrifice something 120 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: when you go into the character, and then you come 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: out on the other end, and you've like double your money, 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Hopefully, I mean that's 123 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: the goal at least, but I really feel like I've 124 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: done that with this, with this show and this characters 125 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: such a like important chapter in my life. I probably 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: will never forget it until I die. 127 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, especially because, like you said, you went into 128 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the series as a boy, right, and then you're leaving 129 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: it as an adult, as a man, so to speak. 130 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: So I imagine throughout all those years there were kind 131 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: of lines that were blurred between is this the character? 132 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Is this me? Is it both of us? 133 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: Like? 134 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Who am I? Through this character, right. 135 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's been crazy. I've had a couple of 136 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: these moments. Like it's been like during the course of 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: these three years with everything that's been going on like 138 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: around the show, with our audience and us like traveling 139 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: around the world to meet these people, and I've had 140 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: like moments where I'm just like stopping and being like, whoa, 141 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: this is exactly what Wilhelm is experiencing. Like it's been 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: so like meta in my head. But it's a blessing 143 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: too to be able to Not everybody gets to experience that, 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: So it's been very helpful. 145 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: Is it true that at the beginning of this season 146 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: you wrote a letter to your future self as the character? 147 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Did you do something like that? 148 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty important like plot point. During this 149 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: last season, they have what they call like a future 150 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: week at the school. So and I did this too, 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: Like when I started high school. It's a pretty common 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: thing here. Didn't you write a letter to your future self? 153 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: That a letter that you will read like when you graduate. 154 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: And Lisa asked us all to or she asked all 155 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: of us who play like first year students to write 156 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: a letter to our future selfs for like the character, 157 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: So so I did that. I spent some I spent 158 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: like an hour or two trying to come up with that, 159 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: but it was it was nice. I found that letter 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 2: like a week ago or something, I think, and it 161 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: threw me back to when I read my own, like 162 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: my private letter, because you know, when I started high school, 163 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: none of this Young Royals thing was ever like I 164 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: had no idea would ever come or that it existed 165 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: or anything. And then when I graduated, we had done 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: two seasons, so I got like thrown back. It was 167 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: another one of those like meta moments. 168 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember, what's something you put in your own 169 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: letter as Edvin and then in the letter as your character. 170 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: I wrote like, I hope you made it through, like 171 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: in regards to I hope you didn't quit because of work, 172 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: like I hope you made it through high school. And 173 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: it just made me think about how difficult it was 174 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: to like balance school and work at the same time. 175 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: But also like, I hope you're still doing this. I 176 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: hope you're still like acting and telling stories to move people. 177 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: That hit pretty hard. And for Wilhelm, I remember, I 178 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: think I am going to post this full letter in 179 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: a while. I don't know if I'm gonna if I'm 180 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: like ready to do it yet, but maybe in a 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: week or so or two. But I remember one thing 182 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: I wrote there. It's about Wilhelm's relationship to his mother 183 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: and his parents, about how he hopes that they're actually 184 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: at a place where they can understand each other and 185 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: where they feel like a deeper connection than what they 186 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: do now, and he hopes that like she's actually his mother, 187 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: that that's what he feels first and foremost, not just 188 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: that she's his boss. And spoiler alert for those who 189 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: haven't seen the last episode yet, but they actually end 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: on a very happy note. Villain and his parents, they 191 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: end on a note that is like, okay, his mother 192 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: and his father understands really's decision to abdicate and to 193 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: choose to be like free. It's very beautiful the way 194 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: that that line is like connected in the end. 195 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Man, if I found both letters, once to myself and 196 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: once its someone I was playing, I would be a 197 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: mess like that. That what an emotional experience to see 198 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: those and read those again. 199 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. 200 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: That's really really cool. Thank you for sharing that. Is 201 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: there anything when you think back on your time on 202 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: the show, in any of the different seasons that you 203 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: look at and say, man, that was a challenge for 204 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: me and I did it like I did it and 205 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm proud of that moment. 206 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: Well, I mean each season has been challenging in its 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: own way. I think Season one was very much in 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: the beginning was very much like me being pretty scared 209 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: and lost and trying to navigate through playing my first 210 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: lead character and all of that, and then moved on 211 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: into like working double I was shooting another TV series 212 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: at the time and going to school, so like trying 213 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: to stay like somewhat balanced through that was that was 214 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: pretty hard. And I remember when we wrapped that first season, 215 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: I was I was feeling very emotional because of that, 216 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Like Okay, I managed, I pulled through like it was possible. 217 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: And season two was pretty challenging in a way where 218 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: it was I was feeling a lot of pressure. It 219 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: was from myself essentially, because I was like imagining all 220 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: of the expectations that we had from our audience, and 221 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: that came with a lot of like, yeah, I will 222 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: performance anxiety or like I was feeling very like pressured, 223 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: not by anybody else, by myself, I think. But that 224 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: was a challenge too. And this last season was it 225 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: was probably the easiest to shoot because everybody was so 226 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: focused on just like enjoying it, enjoying that it was 227 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: the last time we would ever get to do this. 228 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: But it had its challenges too with shooting double again 229 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: and all of that. But I'd say like, as a whole, 230 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: doing this show with everything that's happened in my life 231 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: at the same time has been I feel proud of 232 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: myself for making it. It was also like it's hard 233 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: to describe because it was easy in a way too, 234 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: because I had so great, so many great people around me, 235 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: and it was such a happy and creative environment so 236 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: that you you were able to have fun every day. 237 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: That's probably the most important thing. 238 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: It seems like a really familiar and family like environment 239 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: on set, which is always nice to see as a 240 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: viewer of a show, and you feel that through the screen. 241 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I think that just makes the experience all the more better. 242 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: The last season now we're going to get into some 243 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: very specific spoilers, so I'm sure by the time this 244 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: episode is out, everyone has seen it. So and if 245 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: you haven't, then what's wrong with you? Go watch it exactly, 246 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: turn off, go watch it exactly. So that final scene, 247 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: is that what you expected? Did you expect the series 248 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: to end how it did? 249 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know, Like I was in a way, yeah, 250 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: this is going to sound so like weird, but in 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: a way, yes, that's what I expected, because it was 252 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: like to me, like I fell through Wilhem that it 253 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: was like written in the star, you know what I mean, 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: Like for him there was no other option than leaving 255 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: the royal family or like leaving that part of his 256 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: life to be able to be with Semou, because that's 257 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: the most sustainable way for him to live his life. 258 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: But I did wonder a few times what Lisa was 259 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: going to come up with for the last scene and 260 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: for the ending, But I'm happy it turned out the 261 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: way it did. 262 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: So there was never a moment you thought, oh, they 263 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: might not be end game. 264 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: I got admit when I was reading the scripts for 265 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: the first time and reading like the end of episode 266 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: five and all that, I was like, oh, how are 267 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: we gonna make this work? How we're going to get 268 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: back from this? But I think somewhere inside myself I 269 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: always knew that that they were endgames. 270 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Where do you think they went after that final scene? 271 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: I remember we talked about this. I don't know if 272 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: like on set or if it was like before shooting, 273 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: even like in a meeting or something, but I remember 274 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: us talking about them driving until the car ran out 275 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: of gas, like them just driving south to like Denmark, 276 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: maybe into Germany. I don't know. They just kept driving, probably, 277 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty happy with like not knowing what happens 278 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: next for them. I feel like I'm like very comfortable 279 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: with letting them go and do their own thing. 280 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: It's such a romantic moment, and it's there's something so 281 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: to me, you know, sexy and comforting and in just 282 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: letting people live and experience life on their own terms. 283 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: And I just I don't know, it's just it's beautifully romantic. 284 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Are you a romantic person? Are you like going through 285 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: all these motions and saying, oh my god, I love 286 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: this so much I feel it, or you're kind of 287 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: not so much. 288 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a pretty I'm a pretty romantic person. 289 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 290 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I love accordy ending, I do, but. 291 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Very import beautiful and important to be. 292 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: Poor like a negative way. I made it in like 293 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: this like super cute, like being sixteen being in love 294 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: that kind of passionate love. 295 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, passionate. I love that so much. What do 296 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: you see your character doing in his now non royal life, Like, 297 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: did you ever think about that in letting him go? 298 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Is that something that crossed your mind? 299 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: Not really, Like I I've I've always felt like what 300 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: needs to be told about Wilhelm is what we're telling 301 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: during these like three seasons. So I've never felt like 302 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: that acute need to determine, like what happens next, what 303 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: happens after they leave hillis gay? But I mean I 304 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: can imagine, like I remember doing like the when I 305 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: when I was doing my prep for this character ahead 306 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: of season one, I was writing down like his his 307 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: dreams and goals in life, and it was kind of 308 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: sad because I realized, like he's not allowed to live 309 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: out these dreams and he's never allowed to let them 310 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: be anything more than just like interests. But there was 311 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: a lot of like him being pretty like interested in 312 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: fashion and those creative kind of stuff. Like we know 313 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: he's always been like kind of interested in like music, 314 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: Not that's what he does probably, but like he's he's 315 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: been a creative person. You've seen like little hints of 316 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: that throughout these these seasons, and I think that's maybe 317 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: the path that he I hope that's the path he 318 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: continues down on. 319 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: That's really cool that you kind of are able to 320 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: let him go and let him to feel satisfied with 321 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: what was written in the script all the different seasons. 322 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like you left the series being like, 323 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: oh man, I felt like we didn't get to explore. 324 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 2: X, Y and Z exactly. But that's that's thanks to 325 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: like Liza being so like certain with the three seasons 326 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: and that's the way we're supposed to tell the story. 327 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: And then it's thanks to us being able to do 328 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: three seasons, and that's thanks to the fans and their support, 329 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: and it's just, yeah, it's it's not everybody gets to 330 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: experience that, So I'm very grateful for that. 331 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of Lisa and the team that created the show 332 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: and wrote the show, there are so many powerful moments 333 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: throughout this series that has stayed with me, has stayed 334 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: with fans, and will stay with fans for quite a 335 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: long time. For you, is there a scene specifically that 336 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: really impacted you that you kind of were going through 337 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: as Edvin and it just affected you in such a 338 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: strong way, and maybe you still think about sometimes a 339 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: conflict or a love scene or anything. Was there something 340 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: that really impacted you? 341 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: Well, one answer is the lake scene in episode six 342 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: of the third season. It's very it's very beautiful, and 343 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: it was such a like free space for us too 344 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 2: as actors to do that, and it was just like 345 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: saying everything we haven't gotten to say yet as the 346 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: characters to each other as v and similar and that 347 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: was really beautiful. But I gotta say, like the whole 348 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: storyline between Wilhelm and August like throughout the seasons has 349 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: been pretty I think those scenes are very powerful, partly 350 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: because Mauth is a very talented actor, but also because 351 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: of like like I enjoy working with him, but also 352 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: because of like those characters, like what they come from, 353 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: the relationship they have when we see them for the 354 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: first time in season one, like with them like competing 355 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: against each other for the attention of Rich and they're 356 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: different views on the whole family and traditions and history 357 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: and all of that, and monarchy and the way that 358 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: their storyline has like developed through the seasons and where 359 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: it ends. I think that's really strong. I think those 360 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: those kinds of things where it's like it's family and 361 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: it's really uncomfortable conversations, but they managed to solve it. 362 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: That's that's yeah, that's powerful for me. 363 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: I know for certainty through talking to you throughout the 364 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: years and through today and through seeing your face and 365 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: how proud you seem and just reflective on everything, that 366 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: you're really gonna miss this experience. And oh yeah, that 367 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: must be such a great feeling to have. So what 368 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: will you miss the most? 369 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you're so right, it's I am 370 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: going to miss this experience so much. Like I feel 371 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: so privileged to have been able to work with so 372 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: many like young, talented, ambitious people and having periods of 373 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: each year where I get to spend almost every day 374 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: with them and work with them and be creative with 375 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: them and learn so much. I wouldn't be surprised if 376 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: that doesn't come around again. And I hope I've made 377 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: as much as I can out of this time and 378 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: learn as much as I can from these people. A 379 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: lot of these people are like some of the closest 380 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: people to me, and I learned so much from them 381 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: every day. And we are going to work together again, 382 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: some of us, but not like everybody at the same time. 383 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: And that's pretty it's it's you get kind of sentimental 384 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: when you think about it. But it's been a privilege 385 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: to surround myself with these people. I think that's what 386 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss the most. 387 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: And speaking of working together, I had Omar on my 388 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: show and he teased that the two of you are 389 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: cooking up something, that you're working something, and he didn't 390 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: say much more. Is there anything else that you can 391 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: share about what the two of you might be up to? 392 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: It's so exciting that we've been like starting to tease 393 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: this thing. I don't know, No, I wouldn't say it's 394 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: too much more. It's it's it's a project that we've 395 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: both been been working on for like more than a 396 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: year now, and we're very excited. It's been it's been 397 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: a fun process throughout the whole thing, and we're very 398 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: excited to tell the world what it is. 399 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: When might that be happening? 400 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't dare say, but I people won't have to wait. 401 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: Too long, fair enough? And I presume it's not related 402 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: to Young Royals. 403 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: No, unfortunately, not Young Royals. Is it's a closed chapter, 404 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: but it's supposed to be that way. 405 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: I think, Okay, all right, Well we look forward to that. 406 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I think we're we're eagerly awaiting, So I can't wait 407 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: to see. Although I do have a guess, but I'm 408 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: not going to give it. 409 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: Okay, no, don't do that because I won't be able 410 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: to hold my face. 411 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, I will not guess. But that's awesome 412 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: and it gives people something to look forward to. But 413 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: let's play for a minute. So it's not Young Royals related, 414 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: but let's say there was a spin off down the line. 415 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: What would you want to see happen in that. 416 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: Personally, I would want to see something that has nothing 417 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: to do with realm. But that's just because I feel 418 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: like his story is done. If I have to answer something, 419 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: maybe it's a prequel of the early years of the Queen, You're. 420 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: Like, with a different actor and character, totally different. Yeah, 421 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: that's funny. That's cool, and you know what, you never know, 422 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: there could be something there. But what's so cool is 423 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: I I've talked to Lisa as well, and she really 424 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: hopes to work with all of you all again in 425 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: some different capacity. And again that just shows me what 426 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: a beautiful experience this was. So I can't wait to 427 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: see if something there might happen down the line as well. 428 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: I hope so, I hope so that that would be 429 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: a dream. 430 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: So it seems like three seasons beautiful ending. It's told 431 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: the story that needed and was intended to be told. 432 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Would you have done more seasons or you feel like 433 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of the perfect time in your life 434 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to wrap up this role. 435 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: No, I think like for various reasons, Like partially because 436 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: I trust Lisa when she says, like, three seasons is enough. 437 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Three seasons is what it's supposed to be. I trust that. 438 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: I also feel like within myself that I have no 439 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: need to say anything more about this character. But also, 440 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: as you say, like, I think I'm in a stage 441 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: in my life right now where I'm ready to take 442 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: on other projects and play other characters and do different things. 443 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm focusing on now. 444 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: And I think it's always good to go out on 445 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: a high where you leave people wanting more, right, And yeah, 446 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: you feel like, oh man, if we had one more season, Yeah, 447 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: be so excited because that shows that you all have 448 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: done the job that you were meant. 449 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: To do exactly. And it's the beautiful thing is that 450 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: we have an audience that will continue to tell the 451 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: story and it's like in their hands. Now it's their 452 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: imagination that can run freely. I've already seen some like 453 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: I don't know if some of them. I think some 454 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: of them are like jokingly written, but it's fun to read, 455 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: like what happens next, what happens in the future for 456 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: these characters. 457 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much fan fiction out there, so you 458 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: do check some of it out. 459 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: I do, I do. I try not to. I don't 460 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: think it's good for me to like stay invested in that, 461 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: but it's fun to read. 462 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the number one fan question I've seen about you 463 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: that people are dying to know when your character removed 464 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the nail polish, right, did that represent to you? 465 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: Well? I remember when we shot that scene. I think 466 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: that nail polish was a really beautiful plot point. But 467 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: in the end, I think he removes it because he's 468 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: very very This is like a point in the show 469 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: and in his life where he's very affected by the 470 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: news about his brother and his like confusion and was 471 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: his brother going to approve of him the way he 472 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: is and all of that, And I think that gets 473 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: to him in that moment, so he doesn't dare to 474 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: like show his love for Semon that publicly in that way, 475 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: because he's like very affected by not only by like 476 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: his brother and all of that, it's more like him 477 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: being affected by the traditions and the expectations from like 478 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: the royal family and the history that he comes from, 479 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 2: which has been such an important part of his story 480 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: throughout these seasons. And this is like a moment where 481 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 2: he feels very low, I think, but it's also like 482 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: necessary because it guides him towards the decision that he 483 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: ultimately makes, where he chooses to let go of these 484 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: expectations in this history to actually be free and to 485 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: be with Simon. Yeah, but it's a strong scene, Like 486 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen that much, but it's it hits hard 487 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: and I've noticed. 488 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a scene that ically talked about quite 489 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: a bit. And again, it's got such a powerful and 490 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: beautiful message. So it's pretty cool that you got to 491 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: be a part of that. The other thing I keep 492 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of fans wondering is if there's any 493 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: way you would dub the show in English, right, like 494 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: we want like why aren't they doing it? Like has 495 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: that ever been a conversation? 496 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, no, we we dubbed season one and sorry, 497 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: I dubbed season one and two in in English. I 498 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: did the English version as well, but for this third season, 499 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: I was at a point in my life where I 500 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: had shot four different projects in a row and I 501 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: was feeling very, very tired and needed some rest. And 502 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: we tried to make it work. We tried to like 503 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: push the the deadline for the for the English dubbing, 504 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: but we couldn't make it work, unfortunately. But I think 505 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: I haven't watched the English version actually, but from what 506 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: I've heard, I think the guy did a did a good. 507 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Job, you know what, yes, uh huh. But but I think, 508 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, the fandom would have enjoyed you. So who 509 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: knows that in the future there'll be another version. 510 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: I mean maybe, like throughout the years, as I meet 511 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: the as I continue to meet the audience, if they 512 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: can ask me to like say these lines in English, 513 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: I can say a couple of them at a time, 514 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: and then eventually they'll have the full. 515 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: We'll just keep piecing them all together exactly exactly. That's incredible. 516 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: That would make one really fun TikTok. 517 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: I'm just yeah. 518 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: Also, you see me like aging throughout You're like ninety 519 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: years old saying that last line of season three. 520 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you really over me. 521 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna be in charge of spearheading 522 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: that project. So perfect, let's go, let's go. Can you 523 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: strike me as someone who can be a very off 524 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: the cuff person improving? Like, do you enjoy doing improv? 525 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: Was there a lot of improv in season three? 526 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, there was quite a bit. I enjoy it, 527 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 2: and like I enjoyed being in the moment and doing it. 528 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: I enjoy like having the opportunity and being in that 529 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: mindset where I'm like so connected to the character into 530 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: the story and there's like an environment between me and 531 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: the other actor where we can just like bounce off 532 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: of each other. That's like the best thing, honestly, and 533 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: we got to do that a few times this season. 534 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: There are a few moments that are improvised that are 535 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: really beautiful, and that's a huge thanks to the to 536 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: our directors who makes that possible for us, because it 537 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: takes a pretty good director to create that environment. 538 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Was anything in the final scene improvised because it felt 539 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: like it was or was that just you guys being 540 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: so authentic in the given text and dialogue? 541 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: Now I think that scene is pretty much as it 542 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: was written, but the lake scene that comes a few 543 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: minutes before that's that's a lot of that is improvised. Yeah, 544 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: and that's huge thanks to Linear Roxam, who directed that episode, 545 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: because she she prepped us really good. And that was 546 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: like our last shooting day too, so we were all 547 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: we were already kind of like emotional, and she was like, 548 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: this is your chance to say everything you haven't said yet, 549 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: like make connections, make like do little like parallels, do 550 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: whatever you want, stay true to each other and to 551 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: your characters, and we'll see what happens. And it was 552 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: like two or three like eight minute takes. I think 553 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: that we did. 554 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: You guys worked so much and you were in so 555 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: many scenes throughout all three seasons of the show. I 556 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: imagine it is hard to remember exactly what you did. When. 557 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Have you gone back and watched the whole series or 558 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: not yet? 559 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have. I've watched the first two episodes a 560 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: couple of times. I think I've watched season episode three 561 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: at least once, and I think I've watched episode five 562 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: like three times, maybe because that's a brilliant episode. But 563 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: see episode six, the last episode I've actually only watched 564 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: it twice. The first time I watched it, it wasn't 565 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: done yet, it wasn't like fully graded or sounded it. 566 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: So like the first time I saw it like in 567 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: its final form, was was at that screening here in 568 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: Stockholm with the fans. So that made me like even 569 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: more special because it felt like we were on the 570 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: same level almost like I knew what was going to happen, 571 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: but but I didn't know like how it would feel 572 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: to watch it. 573 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: So it's not weird for you to watch watch yourself 574 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: back like you you can get through it, yeah. 575 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: I can, but it's it's always like it's always a 576 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: hassle to go through because you you analyze yourself like 577 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: no other human being can. I think about like the 578 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: way I'm moving my eyebrows or like the tiniest little 579 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: like muscle contractions, or like the length of different like looks. 580 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's it's horrible, but I think it's a 581 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: necessary part of being an actor too, to be able 582 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: to watch yourself and to learn from that. And uh, 583 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: it depends on what kind of setting it is, too, 584 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: Like at that screening with the fans, it was a 585 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: lot of I was just trying to like enjoy that 586 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: moment and and taken the the aura in the room. 587 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I think for me it would be pretty funny and 588 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: kind of weird to see myself making out so much 589 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: on a big screen. Like was that something you had 590 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: to get used to? 591 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've gotten pretty used to it. I know 592 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: now that it's it's uh, it's what it is, And 593 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: I remember what it felt like like you always like 594 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: you when you're shooting those kinds of scenes. It's it's 595 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: always very uh, it's so like staccato. Oftentimes it's so choreographed, 596 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: and it's it's so like like you don't, you don't. 597 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't get too uncomfortable watching those. 598 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Is there something from set that you took that nobody knows? 599 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is such a burning question. Everybody 600 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: wants to know this. 601 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Everybody. 602 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: Let me think what I have. Actually, I have two 603 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: snow globes. I have the broken one that's the one 604 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: that I threw in the trash, and then I have 605 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: a whole one that's not broken that I got as 606 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: a rap gift. And then I have the Hilish cassuit. 607 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: I have like little artifacts from like different kinds of 608 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: props like I have a Hilish coffee mug and I 609 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: have you know, those kinds of things. And actually some 610 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: clothes from other characters as well. I won't say who, 611 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: but they had like an outlet sale of every character's wardrobe, 612 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: and I remember like looking through the other actors' wardrobes 613 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, huh, maybe this could work for me. 614 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: It just snatched it. 615 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Well, if we see you walking around town in these outfits, well, 616 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: now you. 617 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: Know what, one day it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. 618 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: That's amazing. And then you are so accomplished. You've done 619 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: so much in your career already. It feels like you're 620 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: always working and you deserve all the success that has 621 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: come your way. What do you hope to accomplished in 622 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: the future, Like, do you have any burning desires and 623 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: goals that you haven't mentioned yet? 624 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: I've said this before. Sorry, it's like the opposite of 625 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: your podcast title. What I have said before is that 626 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: I want to do this for like so long, and 627 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: I want to do this until I'm like ninety, and 628 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: like that includes me working like overseas and working in 629 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: other countries and Essentially, what it comes down to is 630 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: I want to tell stories that move people, and I 631 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: want to work with talented people. And I've been privileged 632 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: enough to be able to work with some of these 633 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: people now, especially during this last year. And what I 634 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: hope is like short term is to work with these 635 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: people again, and long term is to just like continue 636 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: to evolve and do loads of other characters and different characters. 637 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: I want to I want to like show my register, 638 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: I want to play characters. People should look at my 639 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: project and be like, huh, that's an interesting choice. That's 640 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: that's what I want to accomplish. 641 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: Well, I have no doubt you will, I believe. Last 642 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: time we spoke, I referenced the BuzzFeed article that compared 643 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: you to a Meryl Streep, and you will have a 644 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: career much like her. So I think you're on the 645 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: right track, my friend. 646 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope, So, I hope so. Yeah. 647 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: And you lead your life with gratitude, And that's another 648 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: thing I really enjoy about you. I've spoken to hundreds 649 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: and at this point probably thousands of people in my career, 650 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: but you always strike me as someone who truly is 651 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: grateful for everything that's come your way. And the work 652 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: that you've done. And I really think that's a beautiful 653 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: message to put out among many other messages like the 654 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: importance of your mental health. And you've been so open 655 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: and honest about that, And in fact, prior to us 656 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: hopping on this, you said out, I have my therapy 657 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: appointment for an hour and can't talk to you after. 658 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: And you're so in touch with that side of who 659 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: you are. For anybody listening today who might be struggling 660 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: or having a tough day, what advice can you give 661 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: about how you go through your life. 662 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: One of the most important things that I've I try 663 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: to remind myself of is that, like all emotions are valid, 664 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: what matters is what you do with them. So if 665 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: you feel lost or scared or angry or whatever it 666 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: may be, that's fine, that's like, that's so normal. People 667 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: have no idea. It's everybody goes through these emotions. What 668 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: matters is what you do with them, and that you, 669 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: like take responsibility to learn about them and learn about 670 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: yourself and set boundaries and learn what your needs are. 671 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 2: And for me, what has helped is therapy and talking 672 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 2: about it. That might that may not be the case 673 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: for all people. But I'd say at least like give 674 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: it a try, and at least don't be ashamed and 675 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: contain this these emotions, like talk to people about it 676 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 2: because everybody's going through it. You're not alone, I guess. 677 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: Is what I'm trying to say, is. 678 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: That something that shocks you a long time to really 679 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: believe that you are not alone. 680 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taken me a long time. I think I'm 681 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: still struggling with it in some ways, but I've come 682 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 2: a long way. And I think it's also like it's 683 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: funny because I'm twenty one, but I feel like I've 684 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: come a long way and I probably have a long 685 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: way ahead of me. But that's I look at that 686 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: with like excitement, Like I know I'm going to go 687 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: through a lot of different things and it's going to 688 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: be tough at times and it's going to be good 689 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: at times. But I'm like every day learning like what 690 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: I need to continue and what I need to evolve, 691 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: and so i can look towards the future with excitement 692 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: and I'm really happy about that and I'm happy that's 693 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: where I'm at in my life. 694 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: Well said my friend, and a good reminder that there's 695 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: absolutely no shame in taking time to take care of ourselves, 696 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: our minds, our body, our spirits, all of it. 697 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Definitely. 698 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: Well, it's that point of the show show where I 699 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: ask all of my guests the burning question based off 700 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: the title of my show, which is I've never said 701 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: this before, So well, I feel like this interview you've 702 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: definitely spoken of that a lot of things that you 703 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: haven't said before. I'm wondering, is there anything else, whether 704 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: it's silly or deep or whatever comes to mind, that's 705 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: something you haven't said. 706 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: Before, something that I've been thinking about, Like, I keep 707 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: coming back to it because it's a great quote, and 708 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: that is dream big, live bigger. And what that means is, 709 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: like you, you always hear like dream big and and 710 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: for the stars, YadA yadi. But it's important to try 711 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: to like live big as well, like collect experiences and 712 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: try those things you've never tried before, and like throw 713 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 2: yourself out there because as my therapist usually says, people 714 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: can handle a lot more than you think. And that 715 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 2: goes for like yourself as well. So don't be afraid 716 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: to throw yourself out there and live big. That's where 717 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to leave you. 718 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: With, Live Big. I couldn't love that more. That's a 719 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: beautiful sentiment as we wrap up today, and I have 720 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: to tell you you are the only person that has 721 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 1: been invited on my show twice now, out of everyone, 722 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you are the only on your view 723 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: to air twice. 724 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 2: Wow. That's a huge honor. Man, Thank you, Telly. 725 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: I am thrill to have you on. Like I said, 726 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: I so believe in who you are as a person 727 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: and what you stand for. And it goes without saying 728 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: your brilliant amount of talent and you know capabilities that's 729 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: going to continue growing further and further in your career 730 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: for decades to come. But I just I really smile 731 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: when I see people killing it who deserve to be 732 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: killing it. So it's truly an honor. And I'm so 733 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: glad we got to hang out and talk today. 734 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: Me too, man, Me too. I'm glad we could make 735 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: it work. 736 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: Me too. And I hope you have a little vacation 737 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: or R and R in store for you. You need some downtime, 738 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: so take some time for you, will. I will, all 739 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: right until we meet again. 740 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 2: Yes, take care, man. 741 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Dedario. 742 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: This podcast is Executive produced by Andrew Piblisi at iHeartRadio 743 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 744 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 745 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate, review and 746 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 747 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy de Dario