WEBVTT - TROUBLE GECK (ft. Attorney Tom) 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.479 Hey, folks, this is Lyle here. So on today's episode, 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.400 I have a guest. It is my friend, Attorney Tom, 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.600 who has been on this show multiple times before. He's 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.720 a good pal of mine. He is a catastrophic personal 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.920 injury attorney, a real attorney, not like how I'm a 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.600 therapist kind of attorney. He's an actual, real lawyer man 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.840 and also a YouTuber and a TikToker that I met 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.160 on TikTok about I want to say a year ago 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.800 when I really first started getting knee deep into being 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.080 a gecko. For the first half of this podcast, it's 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.720 me an attorney Tom, taking calls from the people to 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.199 hear about times that they've gotten in trouble. And it 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:56.200 was a good episode. And I normally hate doing these long, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.720 rambley intros. I like to just get into the calls, 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:01.760 but I figure that since I have a guest on 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:06.160 this one, it would be nice of me to introduce them. So, okay, 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.240 enough of me, enough of this intro. Let's just get 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.360 into it. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.160 Goes on the line taking phone calls every night, ever, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:17.920 goes to an anxiety. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:18.759 He's teaching you. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:27.840 A line tome. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.720 But you know, before we begin, before we start taking 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.560 phone calls. Is so anything that you want the people 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.640 to know anything you want to tell the folks of 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.440 gak Nation before we begin anything at all. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:44.720 Yes, very standard lawyer get goo protocol. I'm not your 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.760 lawyer and you are calling. Please do not tell us 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:53.720 anything that you should consult with a lawyer operating in 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:58.040 their professional capacity. You are calling to talk to two 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.600 geckos who are on the air with presumably thousands of 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.000 people watching, so be mindful. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.359 Yes, this is for entertainment purposes only. Don't say anything 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.399 that could get you in a lot of trouble exactly. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:21.320 Let's begin. Hello Jacob, Yes, Hello, how are you? You're 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:26.960 on the phone with Lyle and Terry Tom. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:32.600 Oh holy shit, I'm freaking out a little bit right now. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:32.959 Hello. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.640 Hi, how you doing? Jacob from Jacob has Kansas. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:43.200 Kansas is cold, flat and boring. I'm more of a 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.840 Colorado person myself, but I live in Kansas. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:50.560 Unfortunately, Jacob, we heard that you used to have a 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:57.840 job dressing up as the Grinch and you're with fellow 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.240 fellow green men. It's a safe place and we'd love 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.799 to hear your story. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:09.639 Oh yeah, so every year, So I should preface I 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.000 do cosplay. So one of my cosplays that I decided 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.320 to do many years ago when I was in high 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.560 school was I get this prosthetic and I would paint 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.280 myself screen and just do impressions of the Grinch. Someone 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.639 founded on social media from the city of Manhattan. Oh shoot, 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.560 I just talked myself anyways, ignore. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:34.520 That Manhattan, Kansas me and they were like. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.880 Yes, Manhattan, Kansas, not New York, but Manhattan, Kansas. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:40.960 Continue. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:47.160 Yeah, absolutely, So I get hired every year to do 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.400 the Grinch for the city because I found me online 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.520 and they were like, wow, you do a really good, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.960 like impersonation of him. Would you like to come to 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.760 our Christmas festival that we do every year after Thanksgiving? 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.080 And so I've been doing this for the past five 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:10.320 years and then the year last year. Actually I was 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.960 not invited back this year, but due to what happens, 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.880 but I got caught smoking a joint in my car 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.159 by a mom and daughter who were trying to find 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.480 me for a photo. The cops were called and they 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:31.000 come to find me in just like a smoked filled car, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.960 high as fuck, and I was like, now, this was 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.880 after the Christmas festival, This was after. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.920 Who's the real Grinch in this situation. I think it's 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.120 the Karen who called the cops on you? 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:46.880 Yeah, right, why did she? 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:47.400 Yeah? 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.400 Why did she call the cops on you? Man? Like 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.760 she just found you in the car? Like were you 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.160 was it? That's that's such a classic. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.600 Did you get arrested in full Grinch gear? 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.520 So they brought me down to the station, but they 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.159 did not arrest me. They gave me a warning. But 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:12.040 the funny thing was the officers were thinking it was 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.520 the funniest ship. They were laughing. I was high as fuck. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:16.520 I was tripping ball. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.640 I could see how they I could see how the 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.360 officers thought that was funny. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.320 Do you think that being high what makes you a 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.360 better Grinch? Do you feel like as you're tripping, you 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.720 can like get more in touch with his with the 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.039 zaniness of his character, or do you feel like, you. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.120 Know, see, I think I'm the. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.560 I was gonna say, I think the police department missed 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.800 a real opportunity for social media. They could have said, like, hey, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.360 we arrested the Grinch. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.240 Right right right, because they caught you steal in Christmas 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.160 presents or something. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:11.720 I'm sure that arrested the Grinch in parentheses for smoking, Mirjuana. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:09.720 You're right, You're right. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.640 You know I could have totally just gone with that, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.560 been like, hey, you know what, this would be really 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.320 good for social media. But like I think at the moment, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.800 I was too panicked. I've had a clean record for 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.240 like so long. I was like, I was terrified of 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.480 what was gonna happen to me. I was like, oh no, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.440 they can have sent me to prison. And I'm just like, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.480 now I'm a very nervous white man and I'm just 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:30.520 I'm freaked out. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:30.880 I I. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.920 I'm just I for no reason. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.960 You know, I'm gonna say of all the like stories 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.720 we've heard tonight where I'm like where people will be like, oh, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.680 I'm sorry, I'm I'm you know, I know it was 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.520 bad that it happened, but it was worth the story. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.120 I think this is the one I think that was 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.320 worth the story, that that was very worth the story. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.440 I think those cops will tell that story forever. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.520 Oh, I'm sure it'll be interesting because I got invited 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.280 to a Christmas party to do the Grinch, not by 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.680 the City of Manhat, but there's a lot of uh 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.159 city workers there, so they're gonna it'll be very interesting. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.080 To see how that goes down. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.560 Tell me about tell me about some of your other cosplays. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:17.480 Oh my god, So are you guys familiar with like 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.760 Doctor Who or like anything like that? 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.200 And wait where Tom and I were just taught? Was 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:23.200 just Tom? Actually? 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.120 Last night, Who's Who's your Favorite Doctor? 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.560 Showed me a clip of Doctor Who. I've never seen it, 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:28.600 but Tom as a. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.800 Fan, gotcha. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:31.120 Yeah. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.120 No, I used to dress up as the Eleventh Doctor 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.560 and I would do like events in Kansas City, and 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.600 there was like the Renaissance Festival, the Time Travelers Ball. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.520 So I'd get hired out to all these things, like 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:45.640 I was getting paid to do what I loved. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.080 So it was is the is the Eleventh Doctor the 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.520 one who always wears the bow tie? 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:52.160 Yeah? 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.600 He's like those ties are cool? And where's a fed 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:58.400 and you know it's Tuanamo and all that fun stuff. Yeah, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.320 it's been about six years since I've done it. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.320 Though, right on, So Doctor Who and who else? 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.360 So I've done Newt's Commander from Fantastic Beasts. I'm actually 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:17.440 currently three D printing a Mandalorian costume to visit children's hospitals. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:24.280 That's nice, Yeah, but I think one of the most 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:29.320 popular one is obviously the Grinch. I actually will film 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.520 videos as the Grinch for TikTok, And there's a video 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.000 out there of me pole dancing as the Grinch to 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.360 stansa baby. And that's it has to be, by by 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:40.720 far my favorite cosplay. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:41.600 All right. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.199 Normally I'm like, I'm like, you know whatever about self 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.840 promo on here, but I'm I'm happy to have you 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.840 drop your TikTok handle right now if you wish. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.600 Yeah, it's just Jack Bucks jac b u. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.679 X Jack Bucks j C Bux. I'm gonna check out 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:01.640 this Grench cosplay. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:09.120 Oh god, well, don't hate it. It's it's it's a very. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.960 No no no, you know, the intentionally cringey cosplay tiktoks. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:19.280 I like them. There's something hypnotizing about Yeah. Yeah, so 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.760 you's a safe space for that. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.840 Yeah. Can I tell you, guys, one last time I 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:27.520 was in trouble? 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:29.280 Sure? 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:30.599 What is it? How long will it take you to 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:30.959 tell it? 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:32.680 Uh? 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.000 Not longer than two minutes? 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.520 What do you think, Tom? 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.559 Can you do it in fifteen seconds? 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.920 Can you do it in fifteen seconds? 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.800 Fifteen seconds? Okay? So twenty first birthday, I get taken 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.240 out by two friends they abandoned me. I do thirty 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.839 two shots wake up in the hospital with the felone. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:55.640 That was under ten seconds. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:10:01.640 That was great? First of all, what is yeah? Okay? 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.240 Well that's good because I mean, was it like, why 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.120 were you? What were you charged with me? Obviously you 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.080 were clearly too intoxicated. I'm glad you're alive. Thirty six 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:17.120 shots is very dangerous by a magnitude of a million. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.120 Was it just like public intoxication or was the deal 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:23.040 you don't even. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:30.680 Remember public intoxication? And I jumped on a police car. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:34.120 Who were you dressed as? 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:34.319 Then? 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.440 I was dressed as myself, just a very skinny twenty 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:44.160 one year old kid in Kansas. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.200 Well, Jacob man, look, we hope you stay out of trouble, 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.040 and uh we wish you good luck in your cosplaying adventures. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.080 I appreciate it. Thank you you guys. Have a great 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.560 rest of your night. I've been listening to a podcast 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.640 for forever for now. You guys are amazing lyle I 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.720 fucking love you and Tom keep doing that law shit. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:07.199 Good. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.560 Thank you, Jacob, have a goodness to night. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:09.720 Check. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:16.280 I'm thinking of the kind words. Raven, Yes, hello, how 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.000 are you Raven? 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.040 I'm doing well. I would ask how you are, But 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.160 you're a get go on on the computer. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:25.839 What does that mean? 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.640 I just feel like I feel like ninety percent of 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.559 the time I've heard you answer that question, you answer 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.960 with I'm a get go on the computer. We just 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:37.920 I just know the bit. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.319 Now you can ask how Tom is feeling? 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:42.640 Yeah, how are you feeling? 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.959 Attorney Tom, Well, I'm a get go on the computer. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:49.680 That's that's a good joke. I like that. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:53.520 It wasn't a joke, hie. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.559 Well, I mean sure, there's nothing inherently funny about about that, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:11:59.840 because it's just the truth. 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.199 You are a guy, I'm exuding on the computer. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:05.959 How can Yeah? 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:10.760 I think that's the whole Oh okay, Yeah, So have 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:17.000 I ever been in trouble? I'm a retired drug dealer 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.640 and I've done a good job of avoiding trouble. But 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.040 I've been in lots of situations that I could have 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.560 been in trouble, if that makes sense. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:32.760 Okay. 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:38.240 And my first piece of advice for anyone that finds 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.240 themselves in trouble or like doing trouble would be break 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.280 one lot of time. If you're going to break the law, like, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.199 don't break the law. But if you're going to break 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.800 one lot of time, because that has served me very. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.080 Well, what can you elaborate on that? 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.840 Yeah, So, like if you're going to be driving around 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:02.360 with say illegal substances near car, make sure that your 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.160 license and registration is valid and you drive the speed limit, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.920 because like that's how like traffic stops aren't like, like 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.920 the purpose of traffic stops isn't really to like keep 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.040 the streets safe, like to some extent it is, but 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:19.480 like a lot of it is to catch people to 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.920 have like warrants or you know, that are doing illegal things. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.559 So if you don't have to give people a reason 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.440 to like suspect you of anything, then you know, you're 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.040 you're probably okay. Like no one else knows that you 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.520 have something illegal in your car? 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:33.920 Does that make sense? 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:34.880 Oh? 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.880 I know, I mean you're your goal of getting into 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:41.200 the whole probable cause, reasonable suspicion Fourth Amendment kind of deal, 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.200 you know, right? 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:44.040 Yeah? 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:44.719 Yeah? 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.040 Yeah. Also, like don't ever admit to anything. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:48.480 Like if you if you like. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.640 Get caught, like just lawyer up and don't say anything, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.760 and you're you might not be fine, but like your 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:55.720 chances are a lot. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:00.760 Better everybody listening. He's he's he's exactly right. This is true. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.800 And they're gonna want They're gonna want an apology. They're 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.520 gonna say, aren't You're gonna feel so much better if 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.040 you apologize, Just admit now, we'll go easy on you. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.880 That's a lie. That's all a lie. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.080 It's always lost. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.720 It's always the cops talking. You don't have the power 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.680 to cut you a deal. It's the das who have 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.320 the power to cut you a deal. So like, if 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.960 a cop comes up to you and says, hey, admit now, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.720 we'll go easy on you, well, they're not the ones 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.280 in charge of who to go easy on. So the 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.480 only correct response to any sort of police questioning is 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:38.200 I want my lawyer, I invoke the Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Yeah, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:38.680 did you ever? 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:38.960 Yes? 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:46.000 I What was the closest you ever came to getting caught? Uh? 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.360 Okay, So the closest I ever came to getting caught 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:56.000 for anything very serious. I was attempting to traffic a 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:02.240 large amount of cannabis across a state border and we 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.840 actually missed our pickup, but we had like a lot 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.280 of there was a lot of indications that that's exactly 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.880 what we were doing, Like we had very large sums 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.720 of cash, Like we got ten thousand dollars sies by 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:18.000 the police. A drug dog hit on it supposedly even 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:24.280 though I mean it never come contacted. Yeah, we didn't 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.200 get the money back, so we fought that we got 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.360 the money back, and then we had like a personal 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.800 amount of cannabis with us, but they actually didn't even 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.560 like do anything about that because there was just a 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.240 personal amount and it was like anymal. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:44.880 So you got caught pre pickup, whereas had you exchanged 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.040 allegedly exchanged. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:54.280 The the so you got caught pre pre pickup. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:59.840 So had you been caught after you allegedly would have 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:04.480 exchanged that money for an alleged amount of drugs, you 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.520 had been caught with a large amount of drugs and 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.600 it would have been bad. But instead they just yeah, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.040 that story is actually. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.560 Yes, and the story is actually a little more interesting 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.640 because we tried to pick up it was someone we 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.120 had never met. We drove hundreds of miles. The deal 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.720 was too good to be true, and it turned out 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.440 to be a cartel and they were not trying to 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.320 sell us cannabis, and we almost got killed and we 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.080 got away It was my best friend and I in college. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.520 They were going to force us to buy something that 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.720 a harder substance that we were not interested in buying. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.840 We met this like the contact for them at a 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.160 party at college party, and we did not know this guy. 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:45.880 He just like hooked us up with these people. The 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.600 deal is too good to be true. We drove au 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.080 across multiple states to get there, and then it was 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.600 not a good deal, so we escaped that and then 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.040 ended up dealing with the police later. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:58.120 Interesting. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.720 I think, yeah, would have been posted people who should. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:02.280 Have been posted up. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.000 Well, I'm glad that it worked out for you. Allegedly, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.119 you know, maybe this is all just one big we 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:15.280 don't know. Yeah, allegedly, glad that worked out. I think 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.360 it's very important for anybody in the chat who might 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.439 be listening. When you go across state lines, you are 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:28.119 committing potentially the same offense multiple times in multiple different states. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.440 Oh yeah, so you know if you're not only you're 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:37.639 not only trafficking in one one state, you're potentially trafficking 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.880 and however many states you're in. And on top of that, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.960 because you cross state lines, it could go into federal 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.359 jurisdiction because you know, you're you know, you're commercing between 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.639 the states, and getting prosecuted for criminal drug trafficking by 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.400 the federal government is not something you want to do. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.240 You always want to try to keep it in state 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.720 court if possible. I mean, ideally you don't want to 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.600 get but I'm just saying, if you have to choose 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.960 to be prosecuted by somebody, you much rather be prosecuted 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:12.639 by the state governments than the federal government. So you 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.080 were you're you're playing on thin ice, allegedly according to 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:16.560 your store. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:16.920 Yeah. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.800 Yeah, So the guy, the guy that I normally got 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.439 picked up for this, this is actually the reason I 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.119 left the specific college. The guy that I normally picked 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.359 up actually did get busted by the DEA. Because this 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.000 is all like long before cannabis was like because I'm 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:35.919 twenty nine, so it was it was before cannabis was 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.919 like starting to become legal. I think the California had 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.879 medical and that was like that was about it. And 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.639 so I left because he got busted by the DEA 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.080 and they had pictures of everyone, but they only took 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.960 down like the people on top, so that was convenient 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.920 for me. But then like for the next ten years, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.560 every time I saw like police lights or there was 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.479 one time I woke up and there was federal marshals 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.720 on my lawn because the guy that lived in the 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.159 apart next door, I guess, was running from the police. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.080 So yeah, it just like like, don't get in trouble 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.320 because like even if you stay out of trouble, you're 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.600 still like always watching your back, if that makes sense. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.399 Like, yeah, so they keep Yeah that that goes to 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.200 what we were we were talking about earlier risk versus reward. Yeah, 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.199 I mean it seems like it's a huge risk that 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.719 is always lingering over you for for what I mean, 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.840 you know, a couple thousand bucks, you know. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:34.040 Allegedly, yeah, allegedly. Yeah. Yeah, So I have like a 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:34.800 regular job. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.840 Now, Okay, that's exactly I was gonna say, because the 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.240 call screener mentioned that you have a a regular job. 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:42.720 Talked to us about your regular jobs real quick. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.280 Uh So, I'm an HVAC technician, which also, by the way, 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.120 shout out to you, Gek, because in one of your 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:55.440 early streams you gave HVAC technicians like AC guys very 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:56.160 high praise. 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.560 I I did, I did, I remember exactly what you're 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.399 talking about a guy called in saying he was going 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.560 to go to trade school. It's been h VAC diem mission. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.520 Like that's a great idea because you come out of 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.000 there knowing how to do something. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:12.440 Mm hmmm hmm. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:13.360 Yeah. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.679 And I appreciated that because, uh, you know, when you 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.760 watch let's say, adult entertainment, it's always the plumber and 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:23.160 never the HVAC guy. And no one really cares about 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.000 the HVAC guy. But but uh, you know, we we 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.240 have a hard job and uh and it's always hot 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:35.119 because everywhere you go there's no ac and uh, but 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:36.919 it's good work. It's honest work, you know. 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.399 So if you. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.600 Ever, if you ever start a campaign for more representation 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:48.480 of HVAC guys in porn, attorney Tom and I have 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:50.000 you have our support. 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.240 I you know, I I sincerely appreciate that. I have 0:20:54.359 --> 0:21:00.280 had one instance where an older lady, uh what, we 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.800 went to go collect after fixing her air conditioner, and 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.760 she was completely naked in her bed and so it 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:10.679 was very much like a porn scene type situation, and 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.000 she was probably trying to get a discount of our bill, 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.080 and we were not interested in that because we're very 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:16.639 hot and sweaty and just wanted to go home to 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:21.080 our families. But yeah, you know, so it's happened once 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.600 in real life a potential situation. So I feel like 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.119 maybe we need some representation on the hub. You know 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:26.640 what I'm saying. 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.080 Oh, we know what you're saying. We know what you're saying. Ravan, 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.560 thank you so much for colling and sharing with us, 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.320 and you know, I am I was sure the best 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:37.359 of luck moving forward. 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.520 Thank you Gek, and thank you Attorning Tom. It was 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:42.320 great talking to you all. 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.880 All right, all right, have a good night. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:50.720 I mean, if you think about it makes sense the 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.800 whole HVAC porn thing, because look, if your age track 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.879 is actually out, yeah, the last thing you're going to 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:02.440 want to do is have intercourse in like a hot house. Yeah, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.359 you know. So it's not like you know, like you know, 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.320 if you're if you're a porn star and you get 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.560 called over because the HVAC is not working, they're gonna 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.760 say like, okay, you need to fix the h back. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.919 I mean, it just logistically makes sense. I mean, you 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:20.480 know there's plumbing issues that that's not like immediately urgent. 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.879 A raven. I take back what I said Uh, Tom, 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.680 you're actually making a really good point as to why 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:29.520 you would not want to have sex in a house 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:38.119 that does not have have proper air conditioning. Yeah, Raven, 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.520 I'm glad to hear though that he was able to 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.720 find a regular gig. It sounds like he got extremely 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:46.360 fucking lucky. 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.520 He got extremely lucky. I mean that that whole deal 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.400 blowing up was probably the best thing for him. 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.600 Yeah. 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.280 He he brought some very interesting legal issues. As he 0:22:56.359 --> 0:23:00.000 put it, only break one law at a time, however, 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.480 or you know, just just to go further on that, 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:07.000 you know, it is often the case that people get 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.280 charged for things that they weren't initially caught or pulled 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:14.280 over for. You know, for instance, you have the outdated registration, 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.440 you get pulled over that you know, they they grow 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.520 up to the window, they notice, you know, a bottle 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.840 or a bag or something, and then boom, you're arrested 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.600 for something completely different than the reason you were pulled 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.760 over that you know. So, so he he has some 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:33.080 validity to to his advice. I will have to give 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:33.840 him props for that. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.280 Steven, How are you. 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:38.080 Good? 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:38.359 Are you? 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.280 I'm doing great. I'm here with attorney Tom and uh, 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:44.119 how can we help you. 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:50.440 Well, basically today it's I don't want to look at chat. 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:51.320 I'm sorry, it's. 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:55.040 Just no, no look at chat when chat's going on 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.480 between you and me and attorney time exactly. 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:03.240 So I'm a part of like the LGBT community, word 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:07.639 and my like our movie theaters. It's called Cineplex. We 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.520 have a thing where it's like two Ney Tuesdays, so 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.560 they show old reruns of movies, like it's usually Star 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:18.000 Wars and stuff. But they were airing The Notebook and 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.919 me and my boyfriend we love Ryan Gosling, so like 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:23.920 we don't really know the whole plot of the movie, 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.639 but it just so embarrassing. We just got really like 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.320 I got really turned on and asked him to start 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:35.119 jerking me off, and he did, and apparently there were 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.640 complaints and the staff came in and kicked us out. 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:41.920 And you added, to start jerking you off in the 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.199 middle of the Notebook, And was it because we were, like, you. 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.360 Know, we were holding hands and stuff, and he had 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:48.880 his like he put. 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:49.560 His hand on my thigh. 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:51.800 And then I just asked, you know, I just asked 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.320 them to take it to the next level, and he. 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.879 Did, and and what was it was just was it 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.360 was it Ryan Gosling that made you like so. 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.040 Honestly, once you started touching the movie just we just 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.359 stopped watching. But yes, initially was Ryan Gosslin? 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.440 Interesting? And now is this? 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:10.840 Let me? 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.240 Is this the thing? Is the thing for you of 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.160 like sexual excitement? Like like the fact that it's it's 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.120 a it's a sort of quasi in public thing. Does 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.760 that add to the the to the experience for you? 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:29.720 Yeah, we're so bad. Yeah, we we like public humiliations, 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.280 Like we do this thing at can't. We have this 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.400 theme part called Ken's Wonderland and we go in there 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.840 and we wear diapers and like when we when we 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.119 wait in line, we we drink a bunch of fluids 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.080 and we just pissed ourselves and so bad. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.040 Interesting? Interesting? Can I talk to your boyfriend? Is he 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:49.359 with you? 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:50.520 Yeah? 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:51.040 For sure? 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:53.040 I did. 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:55.520 You already knows. 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:57.760 How are you doing, sir? 0:25:58.600 --> 0:25:59.399 How are you doing, Isaac? 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:02.040 I'm good myself? 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.640 So Isaac, Isaac? So how did you? How did you? 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.520 What was your initial reaction when your boyfriend asked you 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.560 to jerk him off in the middle of the notebook? 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:14.800 Did you did you? 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:15.639 Were you into it? 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:16.160 Immediately? 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.160 Or was he or or did you have some apprehensions 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:18.880 about it beforehand? 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:20.680 No, no, no, no. 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:21.840 My boyfriend asked me to do something. 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:23.320 I do it for him. He's my lover. 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:25.240 That's beautiful. 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.480 Oh, thank you danced. 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:38.280 Drenny Tom Tom What do you have to say about this? 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.119 After y'all were you were just after after y'all were caught, 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:45.640 y'all were just asked to leave. 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:52.199 Yeah, really, nothing more than that. 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.399 Well, there was a little bit of struggling. You know, 0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.440 you're trying to fight it off because you know it's 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.560 kind of offered. Some people just coming up to us 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.119 and you know, ha, hands on my clover's penis it 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.439 through hard. Bryan Goslin's on the streen and I just 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:15.679 we can't help ourselves and sexually, Ryan Goslin, Oh, our 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:16.200 court date. 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.199 So it was so you did. So there was. 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.000 A little bit yeah, a little. 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:27.479 Bit, okay, So you didn't just get kicked out. They 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:28.439 pressed charge it. 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:29.199 You got a ticket. 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:31.800 You get a ticket. 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.479 Yet there wasn't no family at the bottom. 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.800 They were at the bottom though you made sure everyone 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:38.359 was not near. 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:40.359 So we. 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:43.120 Did get the back seats. 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.159 Look, you brother could just come to you guys can 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.000 be on speaker and. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.639 Just what what let's talk about what happened at court. 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.159 Well, we can't afford an attorney, so we had like 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.879 a free one for us public different. 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:01.920 It's actually really it's. 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:02.960 Actually really nice. Like we're young. 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:07.120 We're like, right, I'm eighteen, okay, good, okay. 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.960 Yeah, and they were going to charge like at the 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.080 time we were at the time, I was seventeen because 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:17.560 my birthday was in August. Tell me, yo, Leo, but 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:19.240 what's your scorpio? 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.880 Fine? By the way, my what. 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:24.240 You're a. 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:30.199 Down hey lyle as funny as. 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.120 I think you don't think you don't think we should 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.919 check this? No, okay, Steven, Uh, good luck to you 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:41.240 guys in the future. Uh. And you both have a 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:42.320 one for us of the day. 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:50.280 You're not going to help us, No, let's. 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:53.360 Jesus, Chris. 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.880 I just want it is very important that they were 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:57.480 both that. 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.520 They're both over eighteen time of this situation. Yes, yes, 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.320 I fully agree with that sentiment. 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.760 But you know, you don't want to They clearly like 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:08.719 the embarrassment thing. 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.480 You know, look, if you look, here's the thing is it? 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.000 And and I think this is a popular sentiment. I 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:22.120 think people if you can whatever whatever you derive pleasure 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.240 from in life, you know, as long as you can 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:29.440 do it without uh, you know, negatively affecting the people 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.360 around you, go for it. The kind of the question 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.440 is did they negatively affect the people around them? I 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.200 would also argue yes, yeah, so you know, maybe I 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.040 feel like, you know, look, if you can find a 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.960 way to uh, you know, feel shame pissing your pants 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:51.280 at home, dude, make a lot, make a lot. Here's 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:55.280 here's my make a live stream where you're pissing your 0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.760 pants in a diaper, like on the internet. And then 0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.560 that way, everyone who wants to be a part of 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:03.880 that can then join, and then you're not you know, 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.240 uh in you know, in convincing the people who do 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:14.800 not wish to take part in your in your embarrassments. Yes, okay, 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.080 let's move on. Let's move on. 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.200 Hello, who hey? 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:19.480 Can you? 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:20.920 How how be you? 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.960 I'm doing pretty all right, you know, got good work 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.400 done today, sort of a long day, so it's been 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.440 nice to relax a little bit. But I, uh, I 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.440 called in because I wanted to ask Attorney Tom what 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.600 is the what is it? Kind of like the statute 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.400 of limitations on a like maybe food tampering might be 0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:48.920 what this is considered, or uh, I wouldn't necessarily, but. 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:55.640 Yeah, So the short answer is it's going to depend. 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.360 It's going to depend on the state, and it's going 0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.080 to depend on what the charge that has brought against 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.200 you is, because every charge is going to potentially have 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:08.800 a different statute of limitations. And so I mean food tampering, 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.200 you're probably in the realm of like assault, because I 0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.280 mean that you're literally, even though you're not punching somebody, 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.840 you're changing somebody's food. They digest it, it's harmful to 0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.040 their body. You're probably looking at some form of assault, 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:28.200 criminal misconduct, or mischief. There's probably like a bazillion other charges. 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:34.120 So it's just going to depend. So I don't know, 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:39.720 without for sure, without knowing the state you're in, and 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.280 without knowing what exactly the prosecutor would charge, and there's 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.680 no way to know that. It's just going to depend, 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.240 which is why the famous saying for all lawyers is 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:51.760 it depends. 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:57.920 Right right, Luckily I'm calling about someone who isn't me 0:31:58.680 --> 0:31:59.800 swim sure you will. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:05.200 It's a story yeah, or a story yeah, I got. 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:12.400 So you know, back in my someone else's college days. 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.520 They were in a fraternity, and they when they were 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.880 in when they were a pledge. This for particular fraternities 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:25.520 idea of haydn was just like hitting people and boarding 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.360 them in between like rafts of a wall and stuff. 0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.120 So this person got tired of things like that real quick. 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:36.880 And the school was like sixty to seventy in the 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:38.720 Greek system. And I'm going to wrap up the context 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.360 as quickly as i can. But the same week that 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.280 this person left, the fraternity was alsoted for feeling so 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.840 they kind of lost all of their friends right at 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:54.040 the same time. Felt pretty depressed, so they decided to 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:58.800 do a dumb thing. This fraternity's house was right up 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.160 against the woods, and before big parties they would make 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.080 up their jungle. 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.280 Juice and these huge. 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:09.840 Twenty to thirty gallon containers and they put the this 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.680 container in the laundry room, which had a window to 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.600 the outside. The night before the biggest party, it's the 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:23.440 person they've waited overnight, got to relate and just just 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.440 pissed and all of the all of the stuff that 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.880 these people were going to be drinking before probably the 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:36.240 largest party of the year, maybe two hundred, three hundred people. 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.920 So just to be clear, this person's so guilty about 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.360 it much later. But uh sure, but so what there's 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:48.200 something like that look. 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:55.800 Like yeah, well, so I'm assuming that obviously this this 0:33:55.920 --> 0:34:00.760 person was never caught and that everybody consumed this jungle juice. 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.040 That that is exactly correct. 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:10.080 Yeah, that's probably, yeah, that's probably. It's probably some form 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:15.040 of assault. 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.799 Three hundred, three hundred counts. 0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:29.719 Allegedly, allegedly allegendly of course. Yeah, you know. The good 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:35.280 news is I would argue that probably ninety nine percent 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.520 of the people who drank your pee probably don't know 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.200 that they drank your pea to this day. So sometimes 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:41.879 ignorance is. 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:48.200 Bliss exactly right, exactly right. That and if Dodgeball taught 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:49.919 me anything, it's that you're in a sterile. 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.320 So I'm so I'm wondering nobody said anything. Nobody can play. 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.040 So well, I think that I think that says more 0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.200 about the jungle juice than it does his pit. I 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:06.680 mean I mean that that it's just like they literally 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.920 grab like whatever the hell they can find. 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:11.640 I mean, oh, look, for all we know, they pissed 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.279 in it before you did. 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.840 That. That is true, honestly, considering the way these guys acting. 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:24.919 And so did and and this person were they at 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:25.560 the party. 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.360 No, they did not attend the party. They promptly drove 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:32.360 home through the weekend. 0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.640 Okay, and you never heard anything. 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:43.759 And did this person ever tell anybody about this? 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.439 Not? Not, not until the night of that same party 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:48.200 the following year. 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:56.360 Interesting, m well, uh, you know it just just. 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.319 From who remained at the school at that point up. 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.640 Well, you know a lot of people, Yeah, a lot 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.200 of people would never get caught if they just kept 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.600 their mouth shut. You know, you see a lot of 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.319 criminals who get caught just because you know, they need 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.680 the urge to tell their story. I'm not saying that 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.600 you know this is gonna happen here. I was more 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:21.880 referring to, like, you know, you telling somebody at the 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.120 school year later, that was a pretty dangerous move. 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.280 None of the none of the people that were informed 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.600 of this were still there. They were they were long 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:33.759 gone and happy to be gone. 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.760 And then also, you know, you got to worry about proof. 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.160 You know, really, the only thing you could get caught 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.319 for at that point is you know, this person's testimony, 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.520 you know, because there would be no like actual evidence, 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.040 So the only thing the person. The person could shoot 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.359 himself in the foot by just admitting to it. But 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.239 I mean, you know, other than that that you were 0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:55.960 proof is there? 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:56.480 Right? 0:36:58.960 --> 0:36:59.640 Very interesting? 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.799 Well what did you? Their name was anonymous? You're you're 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:10.120 well Annon? Well Annon, and actually before we go and 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.480 you know, and in this person they see you, they've 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.760 expressed guilt over this. Is there anything? Is there anything 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:21.600 you think they've done? Uh, moving forward in their lives 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:27.720 that you know, as an attempt to of rectification, either 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.360 either rectification towards the parties involved or or maybe even 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:35.160 more so, a general rectification of adding good into the 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.560 universe to balance out to the bad they feel they have. 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:43.040 Added, Oh, definitely, and that that started by working on 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.480 their own pressed feelings, right like you. I mean, if 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.120 you've got to kind of work through your own ship 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:53.760 before you can start helping other people fix theirs. And uh, uh, 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.160 you know, they've definitely done their best to be there 0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:02.680 for people and uh just continue to do stuff like therapy. Right, 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:07.880 it's a big deal. But this was more than ten 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.880 years ago, so this person has changed nearly entirely. 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.160 Beautiful, beautiful, Well, thank you so much for sharing, Ann, 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:17.960 And you have a good rest of the. 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.160 Night YouTube, let go YouTube three time to see you 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:22.600 guys later. 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.520 Se yep, very interesting. 0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:34.040 Let me ask if someone someone came to you and 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.160 they were like you were like, Tom, I drink piss 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.080 and I want to see the person would you take 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:40.080 Would you take that case? 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:48.760 Almost certainly not. Yeah, it's uncomfortable and I would certainly 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:56.480 not want anybody to drink piss. But civil lawsuits, lawsuits 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.920 where you sue over money, are only quantifiable on money damage. 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:05.760 And you know what is drinking somebody mistakingly drinking piss 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.480 worth you know, I would argue that, you know it's 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:14.960 gonna be I don't know, and keep in mind, it's 0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.120 not just straight piss, it's piss mixed with you know, 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.080 a bunch of alcohol. I would argue, you know, it's 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:27.040 probably not enough money wise to justify a lawyer getting involved, 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.120 because I mean, these cases take hundreds and hundreds of 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.320 hours and years to mature, and I'm not gonna go 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:37.959 take a case for you know, insignificant amount of money. 0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:40.080 You know, you can actually you can drink your own 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.120 piss three times and it's apparently it's like totally fine. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.200 He said three times. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.600 Apparently three apparently what happened to the fourth I don't 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.640 know what happens at the fourth time. I've never drank 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:50.600 my piss four times. 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:56.000 Okay, but well, you know, honestly, like that Jungle Juice, 0:39:56.200 --> 0:40:00.319 you're not justifying this story. Yeah, like I promise they 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.919 did not taste. The thing jungle Juice had college frat 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:09.640 parties is like they buy five different types of alcohol, 0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:14.880 like the bottom of the barrel, shitty plastic, uh, you know, 0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.840 fifths of it and they just pour it all in together. 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.000 Well I bet that if well, I mean in his story, right, 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.759 he was saying like there was like barrels of it, right, Yeah, 0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.759 I bet that. I mean, there's no way he produced 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.799 like an equal amount of piss where it was like 0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.719 it was it was, it could have only been at 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:36.720 minimum half piss. So I mean each cup of jungle 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:41.080 juice probably contained like what percentage of that cup was 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:50.440 p like like like less than probably one percent less. Cynthia? 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:51.680 Is that you? 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:57.879 Hello? Yes, I'm good. 0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:58.480 How are you? 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:06.160 We're hanging out? What's uh, what's going on with you? Cynthia? 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:13.200 So I actually have a funny story to say. It 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:17.000 kind of could have gotten me in trouble, but with 0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.200 a little bit of lying, it didn't. 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.800 Now before were we continue? Before we continue? If this 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.640 story gets exposed to the public, is there any chance 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.480 of you eventually getting caught or has enough time passed 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:32.600 where you're not worried about it? 0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.280 Enough time has definitely passed. 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.279 Okay, let's hear it. 0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:46.120 So I actually had a boyfriend that he was like 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:51.600 my high school sweetheart whatever, and he just made me crazy, 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.839 like he just I don't I don't know, I don't know. 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:54.440 How to explain it. 0:41:54.520 --> 0:42:02.080 But we were broken up for a little and I 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.960 found out that he was like, you know, just like 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:06.960 kind of messing with me, like he wasn't really like 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.759 taking me serious anymore. So I went with one of 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:16.839 my friends and I spray painted his car, and I 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:24.000 also put sand in his gas tank and then gets sand. 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.000 I live in They don't just have sand lying around. 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:31.640 She lives in Florida. 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.040 But we went to the beach. We went to the 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:35.160 beach and got sand. 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.200 All right, tell me tell me about let's go into 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.000 the spray paint. Was there any particular shapes or message 0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:42.680 that you wrote. 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:52.080 Yeah, there was actually hard and smiley faces and pretty 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.279 much everything that would point to. 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.359 Me and and let me just be clear, you were 0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.919 not his girlfriend at the time. 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.600 We well, okay, so we were dating for like four 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.520 or five years, and we had taken like a break 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:12.239 and we were you know, like still talking every other day, 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.719 but we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend like officially at the 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.839 time because we were like broken up. 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:24.360 So and what was the straw that broke the camel's back? 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.719 So we had just like you know, hung out the 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.279 day before and then this girl calls me and she 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:35.800 tells me, why. 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.279 Are you hanging out with my man? 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.960 And I'm like what I was like, okay, girl, this 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:46.480 has been my man for like four years. And I 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:50.000 was like really angry, but it was it was a 0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.719 scary type of angry, and I didn't I didn't know 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.359 how else to handle that anger, so I just kind 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:57.000 of lashed out. 0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:04.560 How long between getting that phone call and you spray 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.680 painting and putting sand in their gas tank? Did that happen? 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.400 Did Was it was that like a you got that 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.960 call and you you immediately started or did you think 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.960 about it for a couple of days? 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:16.920 No? 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.520 No, I instantly did it and like that same night. 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:24.680 And you didn't even like, you didn't even like ask 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.320 him for any clarification, because it seems like a pretty 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:31.600 random phone call to get you didn't do any sort 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:40.320 of investigation or get any sort of follow up information before. 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:43.960 I had a fake Instagram, so I was following her 0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:48.359 and him on the fake Instagram and then I saw 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:50.640 that she had posted a picture with him, and I 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.760 was like, what in the world? And then I called 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.440 him and he told me that he's just like some 0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:00.120 some you know, hoe that he's just banging whatever. And 0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.400 I'm like, how does she know that I called you? Like, 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.400 there's there's no way, there's no way that that's just 0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:09.160 what she is. 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.839 Okay, So, so do you remember what type of car 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:13.239 it was? 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:15.480 Yeah? 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:16.400 But I shouldn't. 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:17.439 I probably shouldn't say. 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:19.200 Okay, that's fine. 0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.959 It was a really nice car and it was expensive. 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.840 Okay, like how expensive we we're talking about? Give me 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.759 a price range. 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.000 Maybe maybe I should say I don't care time enough 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.000 time has passed, and what's enough time? 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:38.200 Uh? 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.960 Like eight nine years? 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.640 Okay? I mean, you know, I don't know what the 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.719 statute of limitations is, but but I feel like, you know, 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:48.080 it's you're. 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.040 Here, it's probably enough time. 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.520 You're again, I'm not your lawyer. This is a legal 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.600 advice here will do this, but you know, if you 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.840 want to, if you want to divulge to the world, 0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.400 what kind. 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:03.280 Of car it was, So I won't say, Okay, I'll 0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:07.000 say it's an It was an Audie and it was 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:07.919 a really nice car. 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:10.840 But yeah. 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:18.239 So I ended up going with my friend and he 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.960 helped me spray paint the car. And we were like, 0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.800 wearing all black, no one can see us. We covered 0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:31.560 his like, uh license plate and everything, and and I 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:36.080 spray painted his car and we ended up leaving and then. 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.759 Did it feel good to spray pants his car? 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:41.839 Well, I'm not even worried about the spray paint. I'm 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:46.400 more worried about the sandy gas tanks. 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.680 It did it did get it get ruined. And I 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.040 felt so bad because listen, I've done a lot of 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.600 growing and I'm like, I'm a different person now, but 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.520 I I'm kind of feeling a little guilty still because 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:10.160 he thinks that I didn't do it to this day. 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:11.759 Oh he doesn't know you did? 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.239 What the okay? What does he? 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:14.600 So? 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:18.919 Okay, Okay, So the next the next morning, I wake 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:24.880 up to a voicemail from the sheriff's office saying, oh, 0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.760 we just have some questions for you. You were listed 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:33.160 as a primary suspect in your ex's like, you know, 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.880 vandalization of his car, and I was like, oh my god, 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.880 something's gonna happened to me. But I was like, I 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.600 use the excuse that I don't even have a car, 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.160 so how would I even get there? 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.520 You made a mistake, and now you got away. For 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:52.000 anybody in the chat, he's listening the correct answer when 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:55.000 the police call you, Lyle, can you guess. 0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.879 I say, I need to talk to a lawyer. 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.520 For I will not talk to you without my lawyer. Yeah, 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:05.840 that it's the only acceptable response, even if you're innocent, 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.480 especially if you're innocent, I will not talk to you. 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:12.799 I want I answer any questions without my lawyer. But 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.640 so continue. So you you spoke to the police and 0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:17.279 you told them that you just didn't have a car, 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.600 so that was your excuse, and you were your. 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:20.239 Own Yeah, and. 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:26.960 I was okay. I was seventeen at the time, and 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.160 my mom was next to me and she's like, well, 0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.359 you have to call them back. You can't just leave 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.200 them wondering. And so I called him back and I 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.279 was like, hey, I received a voice from me. 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:48.359 Yeah, And they were like okay, okay, so you you 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:52.040 weren't near him or the car ever since this and 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.719 this day, and I was like, yeah, I haven't seen 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:55.480 him since then. 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:57.919 I don't have a car, so it's like, how would 0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:01.560 I even be able to do that ever since then? Like, 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:05.040 he just never pursued anything after that. 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:09.960 He doesn't think. I still think he thinks it was you. Yeah, 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:14.680 he listed you as Its pretty obvious on the day 0:49:14.760 --> 0:49:19.719 you confronted him about having another girl. He thinks, when 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:21.799 was the last time you spoke to him in the 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:24.200 last eight years? Have you seen him around town? 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:31.320 We've we've been on and off ever since then, Like I, yeah, 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.680 we've we've been on and off ever since then. And 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.280 on top of that, I when. 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:40.400 Was the last time you saw him? 0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.560 About about a month ago? I saw him, But I've 0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.720 seen I talked to him four days ago. 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.839 On the phone, And to this day, he still doesn't know. 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:54.080 Nope, he totally knows. 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:55.719 He knows. Are you are you? Like? 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.000 What are you? 0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:58.920 Are you together? 0:49:59.120 --> 0:49:59.200 Like? 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:03.520 Are you are you on right now? Or are you off? 0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:07.520 No? We're not, No, we're off we've been off I 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:10.120 want to say for a year. He just like randomly 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.319 called me sometimes and she'll like ask me like, hey, 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.880 how are you doing? Do you want to go get food? 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:17.520 Do you want to go? 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.680 Did you ever would you ever be Would you ever 0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:24.120 tell him that it was you? No? Oh my goodness, No, 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.720 I would never. How do you think he would react? 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.600 I mean, he already knows, But how do you think 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:34.839 he would react to you admitting it? Do you guys? 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.000 Do you guys have a kid together? 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:41.680 I think that he would be a presson background. 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:43.919 I'm sorry say that again? 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.520 Said you'd never talked to him again? He would never 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:47.239 talk to him again. 0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:50.240 No, he would never talk to me again. 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.919 Did you ever think that you had it in you, 0:50:55.200 --> 0:51:00.240 like that amount of rage to go and destroy someone's car? 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:02.520 Have you ever felt that feeling since? 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:05.120 No? 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.759 I think I learned from that because the guilt is 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.880 just too much for me. So I don't think I 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:12.120 would ever do that again. 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:14.440 I can't. 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.839 I can't ever do something like that again. I can't 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.279 let my anger get to me. 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:23.880 At least so well, Cynthia, thank you for sharing. Is 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:25.719 there anything else you want to say before we go? 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:27.840 No? 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:29.040 No, that's it. 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:30.360 Thank you, guys. 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:31.960 I have a good rest of the night. 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.680 Cynthia, you too, Gray. 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:45.040 There's no way that guy doesn't think that Cynthia was 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.719 the one who did it. I mean, who ell, who 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:51.360 the fuck else? You get confronted about having another woman 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:56.360 in your life and then that night your car gets destroyed. Yeah, 0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:58.959 I don't mind you. The spray paints not the worst part. 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:02.160 It's the sand and the engine. Yeah, the guy knows. 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:06.360 The guy knows. It's interesting that he's still, you know, 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.279 calling her every now and then. They've been sounds like 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:11.320 they've dated since. 0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.200 Yeah. I mean the fact that she said that he 0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:18.640 would never talk to her again if he knew, I 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:22.839 mean he he How would that be the one thing? 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.840 And I feel like that's just not that's not healthy, 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:28.680 Like if you have a secret that you can't tell somebody. 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:33.000 I feel like that relationship just needs to end, you know, 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.520 like the fact you know, there's no good outcome of 0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:40.800 that relationship, right right. Well, I hope Cynthia finds peace. 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:45.279 I hope they both find peace. I hope that they 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.600 don't have to go out and well, you know, maybe, 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:51.480 I mean only maybe, maybe it would fix the relationship 0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.040 if she let him spray pant. 0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.800 Her car and put sand in the in the gas 0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:01.520 and put sand in the gas. That just stinks offensive equalizer, you. 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.840 Know, Yeah, I don't. I don't believe that. And I 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:06.960 for an eye, Yeah, this is the right way to go. 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.920 I don't. I don't believe for a second that he 0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:11.360 knows He's got. 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:17.239 To know Alex from Montana. Now, I've never been I've 0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.319 never been to Montana. I don't know if I ever 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:20.160 will go to Montana. 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.239 I've heard Montana is extremely beautiful. 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:25.200 It is. 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:31.960 I've heard nothing about Montana ever, nothing. I haven't heard it. 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.560 Nobody's ever told me a single thing about Montana. Really, Yeah, 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:37.680 do you want to never talked to You're the first 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.399 person in my entire life I think I've ever talked 0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:40.160 to you about Monty. 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.320 Tell us about Montana. We want to know. I'm curious. 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:50.080 Montana has a population of just over a million people 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:57.120 of the state is public wilderness property? 0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:03.560 And how does how does that make you feel? 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.480 That it's public property? 0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:09.520 Yes? 0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:14.040 Yes, how did that make me feel? It makes me 0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:16.400 feel good? You know. It means that it means that 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.360 I can whenever I want, I can wake up and 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.040 I can go drive and I can walk around in 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.440 nature and experience nature. 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:27.480 Alex, have you ever been in trouble? 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:30.759 Yeah? 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:32.480 What happened? 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:41.960 I I I crashed my car into another person's car 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.160 and then kind of did like a like a a 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:49.880 subsequent kind of like run from the police. 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:57.520 So I guess, Okay, how do you. 0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:59.600 Get caught. 0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:04.360 Not by the police. I got in trouble with my 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:07.640 my family, but the police did not catch me. 0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.560 You you mentioned in the in the the call screen 0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.400 or mentioned in the notes that you were like doing 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:20.640 some drifting in a gravel parking lot to impress some girls. 0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:25.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, And. 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:26.879 Did you impress them? 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:33.279 And me and a friend of mine did we impress them? Well, 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:35.480 in a roundabout way, I ended up, you know, I 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.520 got I got some girl's phone numbers, and I think 0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:40.840 actually one girl did did want to give me her 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:44.319 her phone number because she had seen me drifting and 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:48.359 crash into the the other girl. And so I guess 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.360 in a weird way, I might have impressed them. I 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.560 don't know. Maybe maybe it's not quite like him. 0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:56.600 You you crash, and you crash and wanted to the 0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.440 other girls so they know who you are. 0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:04.960 Yeah, yeah, we actually we exchanged like contact information. 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:06.160 Right, you would have had to exchange information. 0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:09.000 So I don't understand why you're not running from the 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.279 police at this point then, and why where are the 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:11.920 police even then? 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:14.399 Yeah? 0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:18.080 Yeah, So what happened was it was like it was 0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:20.799 like a music venue and the gravel there was a 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:23.720 gravel parking lot outside, and me and my friend decided 0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:27.560 that we wanted to drift around to impress girls, and 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:32.000 so we were drifting, and another car with two girls 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.960 in it saw us drifting and wanted to join in, 0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.160 and so they started drifting as well, and both of 0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:42.040 our cars drifted into each other, and so that's where 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:44.680 it's kind of like it was like iffy about whose 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.200 fault it was, and we were both like accusing each 0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.759 other of like it's your fault, and so we were 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:55.320 like pretty upset. And so her car was pretty damage 0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:58.000 dented in on the side, but mine was pretty much fine. 0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:02.200 And so what happened and was someone from the music 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.920 venue called the police because there had been a wreck, 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:10.680 but me and the girl, neither of us wanted anything 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.799 to do with the police because I think I think 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:17.440 she was high or something and I had I had 0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.000 substances in my car that I didn't want getting, you know, 0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:24.960 involved in kind of like a legal legal trouble. So 0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:29.320 we both agreed to kind of try and try and 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:31.680 limit the amount of trouble that we would get in. 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:36.160 And so I left and I found out later that she. 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:37.000 Left as well. 0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.800 We both left the scene, and then the police came 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:44.360 looking for both of us, I guess, but we were 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:46.680 driving around the city. It's a pretty small city, but 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:50.560 trying to just avoid police trying to find us to 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:52.919 find out why had happened because this venue had called 0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:53.760 about a wreck. 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:56.480 Uh. 0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.160 So you got the girl's front up her Do you 0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:00.480 do important question? Do you guys still keep contact? 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:03.120 No? 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:07.840 No, I ended up. No, No, it didn't work out. 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.520 No, because here's the thing is, if you're going to form, 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.760 if you're going to begin a relationship or a courtship 0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:17.320 on the foundation of her primary interest in you being 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:22.400 your ability to drift, you know, I mean, how I 0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:23.720 can how far can that really go? 0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:26.320 Well? 0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:27.800 I don't know. 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.880 I mean I think you know, there's there's like a 0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:33.840 famous film series called like Fast and Furious, and they 0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.720 drift in those and you know, they have the means 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:39.080 about family being everything and they I think they have 0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:42.320 a really deep, deep relationship. And I think in some 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:44.720 way you could say that that stems from drifting. And 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:48.360 so I'd argue that that you could form a strong 0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:52.520 bond out of out of out of a love of drifting. 0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:55.080 You know, even if, even if you're both bad enough 0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:57.560 to drift into each other, I think you can come 0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:59.840 out of that with some kind of an interesting. 0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:03.280 Uh that's almost poetic. They drifted into each other? 0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:03.760 Man? 0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:04.040 All right? 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:11.480 I think everything I said. I'm on your side well, Alex, Yeah, Alex. Uh, 0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.040 I hope that your dating life continues to go well 0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:16.000 and let you stay out of trouble. 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.960 Yeah, yeah, I actually I have a wonderful girlfriend, So 0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:23.480 dating life is going well? 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.800 And uh, well, does she even know that you can drift? 0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:29.200 Have you drifted in front of her before? Are saving that? 0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:30.720 Do you do you want? 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.720 Do you want to know a funny story about drifting 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:34.760 and my current girlfriend? 0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:36.440 How long will it take you to tell it? 0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:40.360 I can do it in fifteen seconds. 0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:41.440 Are you doing. 0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:46.880 Okay? The first time I ever drove her in my car. 0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:50.000 To go to my back to my house, I I 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:53.480 was pulling onto my driveway and I hit some black 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.400 ice and the car drifted into a fence post and 0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:59.800 the entire front of my car got like exploded everywhere. 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:03.040 So I was like an involuntary drifting with my my 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:04.960 like the first time I ever drove with her in 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:05.280 my car. 1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:08.280 So twenty five seconds. 1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:08.720 Not it's not. 1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:12.160 Well, thank you, you have the rest of the night. 1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:16.880 Yeah, you're too, thanks. 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:19.600 I don't. 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:23.200 I don't. I don't like, I don't funk with car. 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.120 I'm not. I've never been like a car guy or like, 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.000 let me do something cool and mic neither. 1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:28.200 I don't care let me have a. 1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:30.040 Cool and I've never wanted like a cool car. 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:32.200 To me, cars are just to get to point A 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:32.720 to point B. 1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:35.720 Yes, exactly exactly. I'll take a show. I will drive 1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:39.400 the shittiest fucking car as long as it worked, like 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:42.960 like if it's like aesthetically shitty. I don't care why 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:44.640 music and yeah, see, I. 1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:47.000 Don't really care about the brand or like you know, 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:50.280 to me, it's all about safety, you know. Obviously I'm 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:52.840 a Persondree lawyer. I see some ship. I will never 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:56.000 not drive an suv. Yeah, every car that I will 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:57.880 own for the rest of my real life will be 1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:01.080 an suv. You've been in my car. It's an s ev. Yeah, 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:05.000 it's intentional. I will not drive you never drama cars. 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:06.400 I will never drive small cars. 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:08.240 Should I get rid of my shudan? Should I get 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:09.000 a bigger. 1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:11.320 If you have the option, you should always have an suv? 1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:12.000 Really? 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:16.360 Why is it because other people are going to have 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:20.920 bigger cars than you? Yeah, and it's just a you. 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:23.439 Know, would you ever get like a big van? 1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:26.040 Yeah, I'd get a big van. I just wouldn't get 1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:26.600 a small car. 1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:31.120 Yeah, I mean I don't know. I'd love to. Uh. 1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:32.720 I'd love to live in a city where I could 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:35.280 just walk every I fuck. I just I hate cars. 1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:35.800 Like I hate cars too. 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:40.000 I hate cars the most, Like when you're going through 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:42.880 your day, when you're going through your daily life, Like 1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:46.040 that's the most dangerous situation you're in every fucking day. 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.640 Absolutely absolutely. 1:01:49.840 --> 1:01:51.760 And plus you know, look when you're walking, when you're 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:55.200 taking the subway, you can get as drunk as you want. Yeah, 1:01:55.800 --> 1:01:59.560 who gives a ship, But in a car, it's very bad. 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:00.800 It's very bad. 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:11.640 Tristan from Arizona, Yo, Dude, how are you doing Tristan. 1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:12.400 About damn time? 1:02:12.520 --> 1:02:13.680 Dude? Pick forever? 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:18.400 Dude of Tristan. I'm here with time on the phone. 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:21.760 Is there anything in particular that I mean anything? 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:22.080 You know? 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:23.840 I know we have the topic. I think at this 1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:25.960 point we're kind of chilling it if is there? Is 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.360 there anything in particular you wanted to talk about Tristan? 1:02:29.800 --> 1:02:30.560 Anything at all? 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:30.880 Yeah? 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:34.200 It was just like, so, you know whose flipot is? 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:36.600 What is it? 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:37.160 Slip not? 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:38.400 You know who? 1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:41.120 Yeah? Slip Yeah? Like the band? 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:43.320 Yeah dude. 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:44.760 So they were here and there was a couple of 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:47.040 weeks ago and I helped set the big old bonfire 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:48.680 that was going on and ship and like that like 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:52.280 stopped the concert for like a couple like probably thirty minutes. 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:55.880 So and like that shit was crazy, man, Like that 1:02:56.000 --> 1:02:58.680 she got a control that she got like hell, a 1:02:58.720 --> 1:03:05.000 bit of a dude. The bonfire, yeah, man, like it 1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:06.840 kind of got scary for U SEC. I was like fuck, 1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:09.200 like we kept throwing launchers and that ship, like it 1:03:09.280 --> 1:03:09.920 was kind of crazy. 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:10.120 Man. 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:19.240 COVID dude, what okay, COVID true? You have COVID right now? 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:21.000 Yeah? 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:21.240 Man? 1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:28.640 Sorry, man, God damn it. 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:32.400 How recently were you at this concert? 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.280 Do you think COVID at this concert? 1:03:37.960 --> 1:03:39.640 I think I think I did get it at the concert, 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:42.520 I think, dude, because like I think, because it was 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:44.400 like one on like a Thursday or something like that, 1:03:44.440 --> 1:03:46.240 Whinnsday or some ship, and then like a couple of 1:03:46.280 --> 1:03:48.520 days later, I was probably feeling like pretty bad over 1:03:48.560 --> 1:03:49.040 the weekend. 1:03:49.080 --> 1:03:49.240 Man. 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:54.480 Wait whatever it was it was yesterday. 1:03:54.760 --> 1:03:57.360 No, no, no, no, yesterday. It was a few weeks ago now. 1:03:57.520 --> 1:04:01.360 But I think like like the lingering effect, man, that's 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:01.880 what it is. 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:03.240 Mm hmmmm. 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:09.560 So you were you were doing this giant fire, Yeah, 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:14.360 did anything, did anything go wrong? Didn't get hurt. 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:18.520 No, no one got hurt, but like they had like 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:20.720 something monster and like that. And then like the next 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.080 day or the same night, fucking Phoenix fire wanted to 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.600 an investigation, like do it a little bonfire? Like, calm 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:28.920 the fuck down, dude, don't go and put out a 1:04:28.920 --> 1:04:29.360 house fire. 1:04:29.440 --> 1:04:30.080 Do you come down? 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:31.280 You're like. 1:04:34.320 --> 1:04:36.400 You said it was out of control and you were scared. 1:04:36.680 --> 1:04:39.360 It doesn't sound like no, it wasn't. 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:42.080 No, it wasn't that out of control, dude, like it 1:04:42.160 --> 1:04:49.320 kind of got yeah life nah. 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:53.320 Well, so tell me about them stopping the concert. How 1:04:53.440 --> 1:04:56.880 quickly did they say yeah? Because I'm genuinely you know, 1:04:57.080 --> 1:05:00.160 genuinely curious about about this. 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:04.440 They stopped it, like I don't know they had they 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:06.040 were playing one song and that they just stopped the 1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:08.200 whole show until they got the fire onunder control. 1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:12.560 Okay, all right, So I don't so it was a 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:15.800 big enough deal that that they had to stop the concert. 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:21.080 I would argue that they were acting as reasonable venue 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:25.280 and or band. I think anybody I agree, I mean 1:05:25.280 --> 1:05:28.480 the Yeah, I mean it would be drastically irresponsible for 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:32.520 them to continue the show while while the present danger 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:33.440 presents itself. 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:40.920 I agree with that. Noah, and yeah, you were the 1:05:40.920 --> 1:05:41.880 one that started the fire. 1:05:43.760 --> 1:05:46.560 No, I no, No, I hadn't started. I helped like 1:05:46.800 --> 1:05:49.400 build it up because like we started throwing like launchers 1:05:49.400 --> 1:05:54.320 and ship. Who's got like the cheapest tickets and stuff? Yeah, 1:05:54.480 --> 1:06:00.760 like a little cheap best launchers right. Oh no, No, 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:03.040 we're allowed to bring him into the into the venue 1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:07.720 because like it's like because there's like you like a 1:06:07.720 --> 1:06:08.480 little long. 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:10.240 Lawn shares that you brought into the venue and you 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:11.600 willing to move through them on the fire. 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:14.880 Yeah, dude, I got some Walmart for like twenty bucks. Yeah, 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:24.160 they got a walmar f twenty bucks, dude, okay, okay, interesting, Yeah, dude, 1:06:24.920 --> 1:06:28.760 m hm, and you got a qtss voice. 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:33.360 Though, I thank you very much. That's very nicer to say, well, yeah, 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:36.520 a voice. I think you have a cute voice. I think, uh, 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:38.560 I think you have a cut voice. Stress. I think 1:06:38.600 --> 1:06:39.760 we have pretty cute voices. 1:06:40.280 --> 1:06:42.600 Yeah, I know I do, dude, I know, I know. 1:06:44.600 --> 1:06:45.080 To you. 1:06:45.840 --> 1:06:49.720 Wait, so the fire department did an investigation, No. 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:51.680 They wanted to. I saw that on on Twitter. 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:52.800 I was like, what the hell for? 1:06:53.120 --> 1:06:55.480 Like, calm down, like, no one got hurt, no one 1:06:55.520 --> 1:06:57.720 got burned to live this lintle damn ww match and 1:06:57.760 --> 1:07:02.040 ship like calm down. But it was like big enough 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:04.880 to like to stop the fire. Like it was like 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:06.840 it was bingo to stop the show. I mean, and 1:07:06.960 --> 1:07:08.600 like it was just kind of ridiculous. 1:07:08.960 --> 1:07:09.120 Man. 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:13.160 I would argue that any fire at a show probably 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:14.840 warrant this show stopping. 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:17.160 It's called the control burned. 1:07:17.240 --> 1:07:17.360 Bro. 1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:19.840 It's like they're doing everything with the with the forest 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:21.480 fires like that to control burn. 1:07:22.280 --> 1:07:27.200 Okay, you're not going to win this argument about bonfire 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:31.400 created by concert goers being considered a controlled burn. 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:37.680 Yeah, but we're white man, so like come on, that 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:38.280 means but. 1:07:39.920 --> 1:07:49.480 Look Tristan. Yo, Tristan, look, uh, look at the fire 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:54.200 investigation department, you know, I mean if you're if you're 1:07:54.240 --> 1:08:00.400 a department that investigates fires and there's a fire, yeah, 1:08:00.480 --> 1:08:02.360 I think I think it would make sense to go 1:08:02.440 --> 1:08:03.400 investigate that ship. 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:09.280 And also so the whole controlled burn there is definitely 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:11.680 not true. Yeah, I think this was probably fit under 1:08:11.680 --> 1:08:17.360 the category of an uncontrolled burn. 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:20.439 They like they just like get rushing, like the uh 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:23.320 the support staff, and like the security are the security 1:08:23.360 --> 1:08:25.880 with the with the fire. I thought it was kind 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:27.719 of funny though, just to be just like rush into 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:31.799 the scene and ship well like people still can't. 1:08:32.000 --> 1:08:37.200 Hurt at this concert? Oh no, of course, how do 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:39.320 you recover from your coronavirus? 1:08:39.400 --> 1:08:45.680 And it ain't no joke, It's is real. Hey, I 1:08:45.720 --> 1:08:47.080 love you, Floppy, also support you. 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:47.760 Also stuck to you. 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:51.880 Okay, I have a good night, Tristan, any too, man? 1:08:55.120 --> 1:09:00.599 Some some questionable questionable comments by by truth Tristan. 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:04.880 There definitely definitely, definitely a solid handful of questionable comments. 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:07.800 I mean, look, if you're a guy sitting at a 1:09:07.880 --> 1:09:12.240 desk at the fire department and someone texts you like, 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:13.240 hey's a fire. 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:17.840 Yeah, I mean and he started out his story saying 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:18.559 he was scared. 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:19.160 Yeah, exactly. 1:09:19.439 --> 1:09:22.759 The fire was clearly not a controlled fire. Any fire 1:09:22.880 --> 1:09:26.960 that is set off by concert goers warrants the show 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:30.360 being stopped immediately. And you know, I'm proud of Slipnod 1:09:30.439 --> 1:09:34.360 for seeing that true and stopping the show immediately. Props 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:37.320 of them and the venue. That is how crowd control 1:09:37.400 --> 1:09:38.080 should be done. 1:09:38.200 --> 1:09:45.040 True, true, true. Nothing's more punk rock than safety exactly. Hey, folks, 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:48.160 it's Lyle again. I just want to thank Attorney Tom 1:09:48.760 --> 1:09:52.400 for coming on the stream. That concludes his his portion 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:55.679 of the podcast. I'm gonna take a few more calls 1:09:56.200 --> 1:09:58.519 just on my own here, but if you guys enjoyed 1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:02.040 Attorney Tom, please go check came out on YouTube at 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:05.679 Attorney Tom is his channel. Thank you again to him 1:10:06.040 --> 1:10:08.760 for coming on, and please go check him out. 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:09.400 He's a great guy. 1:10:09.439 --> 1:10:12.519 He makes great content and it was a pleasure to 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:22.160 have him on. Okay, back to the calls. Cadville Chad, Hello, Hello, 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:24.120 how are you Chad? 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:26.960 Oh my god, no way. 1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:36.200 Way, total way, jeez, this is amazing. What do you 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:37.160 have to Chad? 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:39.600 It's cad Cadville. 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:44.600 But yeah, Cadville, Yeah, what's going on with you, Cadville. 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:48.879 Oh man, I don't even know where to start. There's 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:51.000 so much I wanted to want to tell you. 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:59.200 Interesting you said, there's so much you wanted to tell me. Uh, okay, 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:05.679 Well let's start with with with something anything at all 1:11:06.000 --> 1:11:06.680 in particular. 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:11.679 Well, what I really want to talk to you about 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:16.040 is a relationship that I'm having issues with. 1:11:17.560 --> 1:11:19.680 And why are you having issues in that relationship? 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:29.240 Well, to be honest, it's, uh, this girl, Well, she's 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:36.040 my fiancee and we've been actually engaged for about three 1:11:36.120 --> 1:11:42.720 years now, and I really I'm not sure whether or 1:11:42.800 --> 1:11:49.519 not I want to continue a relationship with her for 1:11:50.840 --> 1:12:01.040 a number of different reasons, one being she has some 1:12:01.160 --> 1:12:04.640 mental issues and I know it's it's hard to deal with. 1:12:04.800 --> 1:12:10.360 And I don't blame her for her issues as she 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:14.200 has and she's had a very difficult life and I 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:19.080 don't want to put you know, any of her stuff 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:22.080 on blast. It's not my story to tell mm hmm. 1:12:22.640 --> 1:12:29.200 But you know, she it's gone to the point where 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:34.000 we've been homeless on and off for about pretty much 1:12:34.040 --> 1:12:42.519 our whole engagement. And you know I wasn't always the 1:12:42.560 --> 1:12:45.160 best to her. You know, I did a lot of 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:50.679 sucked up things. I honestly probably caused more psychological trauma 1:12:50.800 --> 1:12:56.680 to her. And I really do love her, but it's 1:12:56.720 --> 1:13:01.000 gotten to the point where, you know, we have looked 1:13:01.280 --> 1:13:05.760 basically at of hotels basically throughout the whole pandemic. On 1:13:05.880 --> 1:13:09.680 and off. She would get us kicked out because of 1:13:09.720 --> 1:13:14.320 her behavior, you know, And she'll be hospitalized and get 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:17.680 help for a while, and they'll medicate her and when 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:21.840 she's stable, the release her to me, but she'll she 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:26.559 won't want to continue their medication and she won't listen 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:32.519 to their diagnosis, and she basically doesn't want to continue 1:13:32.520 --> 1:13:37.880 seeking the help. And it's just gotten to the point 1:13:37.880 --> 1:13:45.720 where it's like I've lost a lot financially and a 1:13:45.760 --> 1:13:51.519 lot of like job opportunities, and I've basically changed my 1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:55.519 whole life around for you know, this girl, And I 1:13:55.600 --> 1:13:57.880 really do love her, and you know, I don't want 1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:03.680 anything to happen to her, but you know, like I 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:12.000 don't think she understands where I'm coming from, like everything 1:14:12.040 --> 1:14:15.880 that I've sacrificed, and I know she sacrificed a lot too, 1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:22.200 and you know, I just don't know what to do 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:25.360 at this point. Like I do love her, and I 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:27.960 want her to get better and I want to have 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:31.600 a life with her, but I don't know if I 1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:35.200 can do it right now. And the thing is that 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:41.200 you know, she has suicidal tendencies and she doesn't have 1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:44.600 any family. I'm the only person that she knows. She 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:49.920 basically moved out, could cross country from North Carolina here 1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:57.080 to California to be with me, and you know, gave 1:14:57.160 --> 1:14:59.360 up a lot. And I don't want to abandon her, 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:02.120 and I do want to have a future with her, 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:07.080 but it's gotten really difficult, and right now, I just 1:15:07.160 --> 1:15:10.040 want to focus on myself and get myself to a 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:13.720 better position so that I can provide her with a 1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:17.760 better life. But I don't think I can. 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:19.960 You said hold on really quickly, by the way, because 1:15:20.000 --> 1:15:21.600 you just said I'm trying to get a sense of 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:24.800 where your head is at. Because you just said that. 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:27.280 Did you say that you do want to have a 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:29.680 future with her or you don't? 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:34.080 I do, but I'm not sure we want the same 1:15:34.160 --> 1:15:35.080 things and I don't. 1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:35.479 I don't. 1:15:35.520 --> 1:15:39.120 I'm not sure if we can have a future because well, 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:40.160 because I want. 1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:41.760 To say something, I mean, because you just said just 1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:45.960 now that you want to uh do better for yourself 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:50.600 so that you can do better for her. That is 1:15:50.600 --> 1:15:54.760 that correct? Is that you said yes? All right? M 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:07.439 I mean, you know it sounds like and and and 1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:11.880 from your words, you've just you've told me that you 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:18.479 feel like you have caused her harm you say, and 1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:22.559 that she has caused you harm. And and really from 1:16:22.680 --> 1:16:27.000 a lot of what you described, it doesn't sound like 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:32.920 this is super sustainable. I mean, I'd like to see 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:38.439 you do better for yourself simply so that you can 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:43.000 do better for yourself, not so much with with her 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:47.439 in mind, because you know your whole thing of well, 1:16:47.439 --> 1:16:49.680 I don't want to abandon her because she came all 1:16:49.720 --> 1:16:55.720 the way out. I mean, that's that's very tough. But 1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:03.960 you know, if you don't feel like you're helping her, 1:17:07.120 --> 1:17:10.000 then I don't see a reason for you two to 1:17:10.000 --> 1:17:12.960 continue being together. I mean, nothing that you've really said 1:17:13.000 --> 1:17:16.320 to me so far has given me any indication that 1:17:16.360 --> 1:17:18.479 you two should continue to see each other. I mean, 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:21.600 it seems like you two have like your own problems 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:24.680 that you need to work out on your own, and 1:17:24.720 --> 1:17:27.960 it sounds like being with each other is making them worse. 1:17:28.520 --> 1:17:33.080 But I don't know. I'm only making assumptions based off 1:17:33.120 --> 1:17:36.240 of what you're telling me, But is what do you 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.080 think about those assumptions I've just made? 1:17:38.920 --> 1:17:42.000 And to be honest, it's you're right, you know, Like 1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:45.760 and I've told I've explained my situation to a lot 1:17:45.760 --> 1:17:49.280 of people, even in more in depth, you know, like 1:17:49.320 --> 1:17:49.960 I said, I. 1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:52.280 Haven't been And what do those people tell you when 1:17:52.320 --> 1:17:53.960 you explain your situation to them? 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:56.960 You know, they kind of basically tell me about the 1:17:57.000 --> 1:17:59.360 same thing, you know, like it that I should probably 1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:00.280 focus on self. 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:01.680 And you know, okay, so what I do. 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.360 I do want to improve myself for me, it's not 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:07.200 just for her, because you know, like, so. 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:11.000 You've expressed your situation to me, you've expressed it to 1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:12.599 it sounds like a bunch of people and they've all 1:18:12.600 --> 1:18:15.679 told you that you should It sounds like step away 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:17.960 and improve yourself. And then what I mean, what do 1:18:18.000 --> 1:18:18.720 you think about that? 1:18:20.160 --> 1:18:23.960 And they're right, And like I said, I've honestly have 1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:27.520 felt that way for since the beginning of our relationship. 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:30.519 To be honest, I even told her that I wasn't 1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:33.280 really seeking a relationship. 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:36.800 So then what the beginning? So then so then what's 1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:38.679 what do you feel like is stopping you? 1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:39.120 Right? 1:18:39.160 --> 1:18:44.320 Now from going off and doing that. Is it is 1:18:44.360 --> 1:18:47.280 it that you don't want to abandon her as you. 1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:50.679 Say, Yeah, I don't want to abandon her. Like I said, 1:18:50.960 --> 1:18:54.599 she does have suicidal tendencies. The last time I tried 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:58.600 to leave her, honestly, they she had to go to 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:03.080 the hospital and be on a psychiatrical because you know, 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:07.719 she she alms, she tried to kill herself. And how can. 1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:09.479 I ask you real quick, have you spoken to a 1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:14.240 real social worker therapist about this situation. 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:17.760 I'm working on that at the moment. Like I said, 1:19:17.760 --> 1:19:20.519 I just got into the shelter about a week ago, 1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:24.639 so bright now I'm really trying to focus on myself. 1:19:25.880 --> 1:19:29.000 She's in the shelter too, but a different one. And honestly, 1:19:29.120 --> 1:19:33.000 time away has honestly felt good, Like honestly. 1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:34.639 It sounds good for you to be away from her. 1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:39.759 Yeah, Like honestly, it's like I care about her a lot, 1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:41.760 and I know she goes through a lot, and like 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:49.080 I feel messed up because sometimes it's like she's calling 1:19:49.160 --> 1:19:53.160 me because you know, she wants to speak with me 1:19:53.240 --> 1:19:56.680 because she's having a hard time at her shelter, or 1:19:56.760 --> 1:19:58.600 she was having all the time at the hospital. But 1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:01.960 there were times where I'm working or you know, I'm 1:20:02.040 --> 1:20:05.400 just I'm driving to get back to my shelter or 1:20:05.840 --> 1:20:06.400 something like. 1:20:06.360 --> 1:20:10.640 That, here's here's here's the thing, and and tell me 1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:12.400 what you think of this. I'm not I'm not telling 1:20:12.400 --> 1:20:15.080 you to believe anything, but I'd like to hear what 1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:19.120 you think about this, because, first of all, just totally 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:23.600 see a real social worker, therapist, person who's not a 1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:27.200 gecko about this. There would know more than I do. 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:31.200 But my thoughts on something like this from you know, 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:33.200 when I've when I've talked to people about it before, 1:20:33.840 --> 1:20:40.200 is like, if you're afraid of abandoning her, right, but 1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:51.240 if you are unhappy when you're around her, if you are, 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:56.320 if you and you said this in your own words, 1:20:56.400 --> 1:21:00.920 feel like this relationship is toxic and it's not working 1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:04.760 for It's not gonna work for either of you. It 1:21:04.800 --> 1:21:09.040 does not serve you. It does not it does not 1:21:09.320 --> 1:21:16.439 serve her to continue being with her, because ultimately people 1:21:16.880 --> 1:21:21.400 should be with people who are happy to be around them. 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:25.400 So if you're not happy being around her, it doesn't 1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:30.080 serve her to keep being around her. So just just 1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:37.599 so that she has someone, you know, because ultimately, what 1:21:37.600 --> 1:21:39.640 what what we want for her, what we want for 1:21:39.720 --> 1:21:43.960 you is both you guys, to be with people who 1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:49.559 you enjoy being around you. That's what I think. And 1:21:49.600 --> 1:21:53.599 it also just sounds like to me that she needs, 1:21:54.320 --> 1:22:03.040 you know, genuine psychological you know, help that you might 1:22:03.080 --> 1:22:08.160 not be able to provide. And it's just really it's 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:11.040 just really tough. I'm not gonna ptend like I you 1:22:11.080 --> 1:22:14.559 don't have any remotely any answers to this situation. But 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:26.760 I do believe that if you are not enjoying the relationship, 1:22:28.200 --> 1:22:30.479 it does not help them. It does not help the 1:22:30.520 --> 1:22:34.599 other person to stay in it, even though on paper 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:38.280 maybe it seems like it does. You might not agree 1:22:38.320 --> 1:22:40.439 with that, but what do you think of it? 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:44.960 No, I do agree with that, you know. And it's 1:22:45.240 --> 1:22:47.920 it's just hard, you know. It's like I said, I 1:22:47.960 --> 1:22:49.920 don't want to like cut her off because I pay 1:22:49.920 --> 1:22:53.639 for her poem and everything, and like I'm encouraging her 1:22:53.680 --> 1:22:57.840 to look for work and stuff like that because you know, 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:02.240 she needs to be self. I can't provide everything for her, 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:04.720 you know, like I would have a life together with her, 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:09.519 and you know, she doesn't want to be like on 1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:12.639 disability or anything like that. And you know she has 1:23:12.720 --> 1:23:15.400 worked throughout our relationship too. You know, it's not like 1:23:15.439 --> 1:23:18.400 I've been the only provider. It's just been difficult with 1:23:18.520 --> 1:23:21.880 the pandemic. And it's not like I'm not happy with her, 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:27.080 you know all the time. You know, like I do 1:23:27.200 --> 1:23:28.960 love her and we have a lot of fun, you know, 1:23:29.040 --> 1:23:34.439 but there's just times where she's causing a lot of stress. 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.320 Like I said, thout the pandemic, I was just trying 1:23:37.360 --> 1:23:41.760 to keep us basically, you know, off the streets. And 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:43.920 there was multiple times where we were just asked to 1:23:44.000 --> 1:23:47.800 leave because she was making guests uncomfortable and things like that. 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:50.639 And listen, what do you say Your name. 1:23:50.520 --> 1:23:52.559 Was tad Vail. 1:23:52.800 --> 1:23:57.960 You can call me Veil Bail, Veil Veil. That's a 1:23:58.000 --> 1:24:01.600 cool name, Like yeah, like it like a party up 1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:02.200 with that just now? 1:24:02.960 --> 1:24:05.760 Well, honestly, if I kind of use that for like 1:24:05.800 --> 1:24:08.519 a character. I used to write stories in high school 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:11.760 and it was a character and it's like a it's 1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:13.760 like a play on words. It's like supposed to be 1:24:13.800 --> 1:24:17.440 like a veil between worlds. 1:24:18.200 --> 1:24:20.639 Well, listen, you know, before we go, I'm just gonna 1:24:20.640 --> 1:24:26.880 say I think I can tell that you care very 1:24:26.960 --> 1:24:30.280 much about this person. Which is nice. It's good to care. 1:24:33.960 --> 1:24:39.799 I I hope that you find a legitimate mental health 1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:48.000 counselor to go through this issue with you. And look, man, 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:52.200 I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for her, rooting for 1:24:52.280 --> 1:24:57.519 the good of humanity, and I I I appreciate you 1:24:57.600 --> 1:25:00.160 sharing with us and I hope you can find and 1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:01.719 some help. 1:25:04.320 --> 1:25:07.599 Thank you, man, I really appreciate it. Thank you for listening, 1:25:07.680 --> 1:25:11.599 and I want to thank everyone else for listening to absolutely. 1:25:11.760 --> 1:25:13.519 I just want to say, Man, I love your show. 1:25:13.640 --> 1:25:16.519 I love what you do. Believe it or not, it 1:25:16.560 --> 1:25:18.720 does help a lot of people. It does help me 1:25:19.240 --> 1:25:22.760 even just listening. You know. I found you during the pandemic. 1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:26.400 I listened to all your podcasts every time they come out, man, 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:29.360 and I just want to say what you do is 1:25:29.640 --> 1:25:33.400 it's really helpful. You're not a real therapist, and I 1:25:33.439 --> 1:25:35.840 know it's like I do need to see some help, 1:25:35.840 --> 1:25:38.679 and there's other people that do need to seek help, 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:42.479 but you are also you know, a help. You know, 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:45.880 there's like a lot of people that call that you 1:25:45.920 --> 1:25:49.760 know have stories or maybe are some embarrassed to share 1:25:49.920 --> 1:25:54.640 some things with, you know, like their general family or 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:58.120 people that you know they they're just scared, so, you know, 1:25:58.160 --> 1:26:00.160 and it's the Internet and there's a lot of we're 1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:04.760 out there and like people like you, and I just 1:26:04.800 --> 1:26:05.920 want to say that that's amazing. 1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:11.439 Thank you, thank you, val Man. I appreciate that. I 1:26:11.479 --> 1:26:14.439 wish you good luck and thank you. Thank you for sharing, 1:26:16.120 --> 1:26:17.320 thank you, thank you for having me. 1:26:20.040 --> 1:26:22.160 You have a wonderful night you as well. 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:25.840 Vail oh fail forever. 1:26:26.240 --> 1:26:28.400 Aw from Faulkner. 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:31.200 Faulkner. How old are you? 1:26:32.760 --> 1:26:36.439 Yahouh thirty one? 1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:43.840 Fulk nor fulk nor Fulkner. Yeah, sir, fucker's anything in 1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:45.000 particular you want to talk about? 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:52.479 Uh, yeah, I kind of got a crazy situation. Well, 1:26:52.560 --> 1:26:56.679 I've been in a long term relationship. We've been together 1:26:56.720 --> 1:27:00.760 like ten years. You got four kids together now for 1:27:01.000 --> 1:27:07.280 girls to be sad, beautiful and actually the last we've 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:10.960 worked together for the whole relationship then too, except for 1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:12.320 the last two years. 1:27:13.520 --> 1:27:14.320 And it's been. 1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:19.760 Last two years actually been probably the better years of 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:23.120 the relationship. That can be due to a number of things. 1:27:23.120 --> 1:27:27.479 I've recently got a sober and with that, you know, 1:27:27.600 --> 1:27:30.600 comes to all kinds of better stuff. M It's the 1:27:30.600 --> 1:27:32.679 first time I've been able to hold a house down 1:27:32.880 --> 1:27:35.479 by myself for the whole ten years. Who've been together? 1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:38.280 Beautiful and uh. 1:27:40.280 --> 1:27:45.680 I just after doing this for two years. I don't know, 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:49.639 I see it. I see it hard moving back together, 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:51.760 like I don't I don't know. Every time I go 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:56.120 spend the weekend over, he comes over here. I don't 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:59.559 know if it's because of the time has spent apart, 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:04.760 anything changed, like you know, sub consciously. 1:28:06.280 --> 1:28:08.519 Interesting. So so wait a minute, let me, let me, 1:28:08.600 --> 1:28:11.639 let me kind of get this straight here. So you 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:14.600 are in a long term relationship about ten years, you 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:19.240 got four kids together. Yeah, and you used to live together, 1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:24.040 but now you do not, but you're still together as 1:28:24.120 --> 1:28:26.200 so you used to live So let me just get 1:28:26.240 --> 1:28:28.840 this straight. You used to live together. Why did you 1:28:28.840 --> 1:28:29.759 stop living together? 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:36.439 It just got pretty roughly for a while. Consent couldn't 1:28:36.479 --> 1:28:37.640 seem to get along. 1:28:37.720 --> 1:28:41.920 For anything interesting, so she moved out. 1:28:42.360 --> 1:28:43.080 Yeah, pretty much. 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:46.120 Yeah, and what happened to the kids? 1:28:47.439 --> 1:28:50.840 Okay? All over there, I work like the eighty hours 1:28:50.880 --> 1:28:52.639 a week, so all. 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:54.679 Right, so you're working eighty hours a week, but you're 1:28:54.680 --> 1:28:57.920 financially supporting the kids, and are you financially supporting her 1:28:57.960 --> 1:28:58.320 as well? 1:28:59.600 --> 1:28:59.880 Yeah? 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:04.240 I help, Okay, okay, And and you guys are still together. 1:29:04.280 --> 1:29:07.800 So she moved out, but she didn't break up with you. 1:29:07.840 --> 1:29:08.320 No, that. 1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:12.080 Only took like too much. We did put up there 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:15.960 for a minute, but that was an ongoing thing too, 1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:18.240 and we've actually that has come doing it and we 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.840 haven't did the whole breakup, back together, break that back 1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:21.479 to other thing. 1:29:22.240 --> 1:29:24.680 Yeah, so you're back together last year? 1:29:24.960 --> 1:29:25.200 Yes? 1:29:26.439 --> 1:29:30.559 And yeah, all right, so you're back together. Are you 1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:32.240 living alone? 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:32.920 Yeah? 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:33.760 We both are. 1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:37.360 I mean she's got the kids, but I was by myself. 1:29:37.360 --> 1:29:38.240 He was by herself. 1:29:38.280 --> 1:29:42.160 And I mean that is the that is the the endgame, 1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:47.520 that the goal is to live back together at some point. 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:52.160 But like I said, going back over there just constantly hacktic. 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:55.360 She's always you know, arguing with the kids, going with 1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:56.840 the kids. 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:01.519 This is a very interesting such relation here because okay, 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:03.479 well let me ask you, do you do you do 1:30:03.520 --> 1:30:05.920 you like your girlfriends? You enjoy being around there? 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:07.120 I do? 1:30:08.320 --> 1:30:11.200 Okay? And sounds like you mean that. Do you do 1:30:11.200 --> 1:30:14.000 you like your children? Do you do you enjoy being 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:15.280 around them? 1:30:15.360 --> 1:30:16.120 Unconditionally? 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:22.160 Well unconditionally? I mean I don't know is it unconditionally 1:30:22.200 --> 1:30:25.320 because you sound like you know, if if you were 1:30:25.360 --> 1:30:26.439 to live together like. 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:27.960 That. 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.280 You know, it sounds like under the condition of you 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:34.920 guys living together, your your like I don't know. I 1:30:34.920 --> 1:30:38.719 don't know if is unhappy the word. 1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:46.439 Uh no, not not not necessarily, but I mean, I'm 1:30:46.800 --> 1:30:49.280 there there will be conditions. I guess there's just had 1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:50.240 to be a lot of changes. 1:30:51.360 --> 1:30:53.120 I just can't what kind of changes. 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:59.400 And I guess she could have wanted to deal with 1:30:59.680 --> 1:31:04.920 deal with kids in a more calmer way, like, can't 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:07.280 resort to yelling at them. You know, they do the 1:31:07.320 --> 1:31:07.720 same thing. 1:31:07.800 --> 1:31:09.600 The kids are kids, They're gonna yell and you know, 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:13.040 be crazy. But she can't resort to doing the same thing. 1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:17.799 Is she full? So is it is in an arrangement 1:31:17.800 --> 1:31:19.760 where like you're working full time and she's taking care 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:25.960 of the kids. Yeah, and not working Okay, interesting mm hmmm. 1:31:30.560 --> 1:31:32.040 Do you have plans to move back in together? 1:31:33.000 --> 1:31:35.320 Yep, that's that's the goal hopefully. 1:31:37.320 --> 1:31:39.360 All these things that you're telling her about, like you know, 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:42.040 you shouldn't yell to kids, and you know, I wish 1:31:42.080 --> 1:31:45.320 you would be calmer when you're dealing with the kids. 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:51.160 This is all stuff you've told her before. Yeah, And 1:31:51.240 --> 1:31:55.040 what does she say? 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:58.840 She you know she kind of realizes it, but I 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:01.599 think it's just like a rombo type, you like, because 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:03.200 the kids are all still young. 1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:06.280 They're all understand so two. 1:32:06.120 --> 1:32:08.599 Of them, well one's just actually too much. 1:32:08.439 --> 1:32:11.800 Old now, so two of them are around constantly. One 1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:17.040 actually just got into preschool. So it can be rough, 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:19.800 you know, you know, not having a job being around 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:21.360 young kids like that all day. 1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:23.080 I understand completely. 1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:28.680 Yeah, yeah, no, that sounds tough. I mean, well, let 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:30.080 me ask you an, I think have you gone to 1:32:30.120 --> 1:32:32.639 any sort of counseling or anything like that? 1:32:33.600 --> 1:32:35.719 No, not really, that's one thing we haven't done. 1:32:36.120 --> 1:32:40.120 I haven't because because I mean, this situation seems like 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:42.080 it's one where something like that would would work, right, 1:32:42.120 --> 1:32:45.840 because I'm getting the sense from both you and your 1:32:46.120 --> 1:32:50.519 your partner that like you both genuinely want to make it, 1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:54.479 to make it work, but you have apprehensions about you know, 1:32:54.560 --> 1:33:00.479 little particular things. Yeah, so I think that could be 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:03.280 that could be helpful to do some sort of counseling. 1:33:07.400 --> 1:33:10.720 That probably would and like, we don't know that I 1:33:10.760 --> 1:33:11.240 think about it. 1:33:11.240 --> 1:33:14.080 We've never tried it since I've been sober. 1:33:13.760 --> 1:33:16.439 You know what I mean, So how long have you 1:33:16.479 --> 1:33:20.960 been so before, especially like a year. 1:33:22.200 --> 1:33:26.800 A year okay, good, good good. So I mean, look, dude, 1:33:26.800 --> 1:33:29.280 like the will, the will is there, I hear it, 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:31.559 and you like, you want to be with your kids, 1:33:31.720 --> 1:33:35.080 you want to be with with your partner, you want 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:36.680 to make it work, you want to say, you want 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:38.320 to do it all. So I mean, I mean that's 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:40.680 the most important thing I think, you know, is that 1:33:40.720 --> 1:33:44.200 you still use that you have that that will and uh, 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:46.479 you know, I'm hoping that the will is strong enough that, 1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:49.240 you know, when it comes time to you know, move 1:33:49.320 --> 1:33:53.559 back in with your family. Uh you know, I hope 1:33:53.560 --> 1:33:55.400 that that will is alive enough to like, you know, 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:57.320 push you to to try to make it work. 1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:01.040 Well, I mean I can't prove and I've got to 1:34:01.120 --> 1:34:03.640 you know, deal with it as well, help her with 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:05.400 the kids. Yeah. 1:34:05.400 --> 1:34:07.639 I mean, look, man, it's it's it's tough, right you're 1:34:08.320 --> 1:34:11.320 because you know she I it seems to me like 1:34:11.360 --> 1:34:13.280 you guys have a I mean again, I don't know 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:15.040 the intricacies of your relationship, but it seems to me 1:34:15.160 --> 1:34:17.240 like you guys have a fairish agreement where you know, 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:19.759 I mean, if you're working eighty hours a week and 1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:23.320 she's also working, you know, around the clock taking care 1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:25.680 of the kids. I mean, that's that's that's tough for 1:34:25.680 --> 1:34:29.240 both of you guys, you know, right, it seems like 1:34:29.240 --> 1:34:34.200 you both are pretty respectful of each other's, you know, 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:36.920 of each other's sort of respective jobs, you know, of 1:34:37.000 --> 1:34:38.519 hers being you know, taking care of the kids and 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:41.240 yours being you know, providing. Would you would you say 1:34:41.280 --> 1:34:41.839 that's accurate? 1:34:42.479 --> 1:34:44.840 Oh yeah, I mean that's like the thing. You know, 1:34:44.960 --> 1:34:48.880 he's working in eighty hours a week, a job like 1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:51.320 them was going to you know, being a few time 1:34:51.400 --> 1:34:51.600 on it. 1:34:52.600 --> 1:34:52.920 Yeah. 1:34:54.400 --> 1:34:54.559 More. 1:35:01.200 --> 1:35:04.839 Well listen, what did you say? Your name was Andrew? 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:10.720 And Andrew? Well Andrew again. Good luck to you man, 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:14.880 congratulations on being a year sober. Again. I hear you know. 1:35:14.880 --> 1:35:16.679 I don't know you, man, but you know, I get 1:35:16.680 --> 1:35:19.360 the idea that you want to make this work, and 1:35:19.680 --> 1:35:21.760 I think you will. I think you will because I 1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:23.240 just I don't know. Just hear it in your voice 1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:26.800 that that you have that will to make it work. 1:35:26.920 --> 1:35:30.040 And is there anything else that you want to say 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:31.240 before before we head off? 1:35:32.280 --> 1:35:36.240 Yuah no, just hell yeah, beautiful. 1:35:36.280 --> 1:35:41.280 You keep talking as well, man. Thank you. Yep, I 1:35:41.360 --> 1:35:41.920 like that guy. 1:35:42.439 --> 1:35:44.559 All from Jason Wong. 1:35:46.320 --> 1:35:56.320 Jason Wong Yep, Hey, hey, what are you doing. 1:36:00.240 --> 1:36:00.599 Chilling? 1:36:00.920 --> 1:36:02.080 I'm chilling at home. 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:05.200 That's cool. That's kind of what I'm doing too. 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:08.839 Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. 1:36:10.400 --> 1:36:11.320 What's crazy about it? 1:36:12.960 --> 1:36:14.880 No, dude, that I mean, I can't believe I'm actually 1:36:15.520 --> 1:36:17.519 talking to you. 1:36:17.520 --> 1:36:22.200 You know, mathematically it actually makes sense that you're talking 1:36:22.200 --> 1:36:25.080 to me because of all the people calling in, one 1:36:25.120 --> 1:36:29.240 of them had to make it through the phone line. Yeah, 1:36:29.240 --> 1:36:33.000 but so mathematically perfect, like. 1:36:32.960 --> 1:36:36.000 One hundred and one hundred times almost over. 1:36:37.600 --> 1:36:40.520 Is there anything in particular that you wanted to talk about? 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:41.960 Yeah? 1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:44.400 Actually I do, hit Man. 1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:52.280 Well, you see, I recently I'm really into tattoos and 1:36:53.400 --> 1:36:57.599 I recently got like a really big, really visible tattoo 1:36:58.400 --> 1:37:05.559 on my arm and I love it. But why do 1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:09.559 I get annoyed when people ask me the same questions 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:11.760 about it, like over and over again. 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:13.400 Like. 1:37:14.920 --> 1:37:15.519 Why is that? 1:37:15.680 --> 1:37:15.760 Like? 1:37:16.640 --> 1:37:18.800 Why does it annoy me so much? 1:37:19.680 --> 1:37:21.000 What questions do they ask you? 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:25.479 Well, the first one is always like, I never get 1:37:25.479 --> 1:37:28.680 annoyed when people tell me like they like it, that's 1:37:28.720 --> 1:37:31.559 always cool. I always appreciate that. But then they always 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:35.960 ask me like how much does it like cost? Which 1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:37.519 I never tell them. 1:37:37.439 --> 1:37:41.040 That's it's expensive, That's why I say. 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:44.360 And then they always ask me like how much it hurts? 1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:45.920 And then. 1:37:48.000 --> 1:37:48.360 I don't know. 1:37:48.400 --> 1:37:51.240 I just feel like a robot answering the same question 1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:52.679 almost like every day. 1:37:54.120 --> 1:37:56.200 Why did you get the tattoo? You said, you're just 1:37:56.240 --> 1:37:57.720 really tattoos. 1:37:58.360 --> 1:38:02.559 Yeah, I mean my friends, my friends and I are 1:38:02.600 --> 1:38:07.880 all like really into tattoos. So I've been saving on 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:10.679 money for a while to get it, so I wanted 1:38:10.720 --> 1:38:12.760 to get it, and I just just got it. 1:38:13.640 --> 1:38:16.760 And does it bother you anytime anyone asks you any 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:19.920 questions about your tattoos or just like certain a certain 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:23.160 specific handful of questions bother you. 1:38:26.160 --> 1:38:31.799 I don't know, because some days I will answer them 1:38:31.800 --> 1:38:34.040 like completely fine. Some days and they'll be like, man, 1:38:35.439 --> 1:38:37.639 these people are asking me the same questions all the time. 1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:42.680 Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah, and my mom had so you 1:38:42.720 --> 1:38:45.799 say the I'm sorry, what did you just say? 1:38:46.000 --> 1:38:47.120 And my mom hates it too. 1:38:48.400 --> 1:38:51.920 Your mom hates it. So you said, some days you 1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:54.960 don't mind answering these questions, but then some days you do. 1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:01.920 Maybe it don't depending on my mood. 1:39:02.840 --> 1:39:04.800 So do you say it's dependent on your mood? 1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:09.000 Maybe tell me, tell me tell. 1:39:08.880 --> 1:39:14.240 Me about the mood you're in when you don't like 1:39:14.479 --> 1:39:16.040 answering these questions. 1:39:20.640 --> 1:39:24.799 Oh, when I'm I don't know, like when I'm focused. 1:39:24.920 --> 1:39:29.760 Usually it's like usually at school, and usually like when 1:39:29.760 --> 1:39:32.559 I'm when I'm focused, it alway seems like when I'm focused, 1:39:32.560 --> 1:39:33.760 people people. 1:39:33.439 --> 1:39:36.040 Bother me, what are you? 1:39:36.240 --> 1:39:37.200 What are you focusing on? 1:39:38.280 --> 1:39:39.240 There are a lot of school work. 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:45.240 I'm an architecture major, so I gotta be like on 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:46.760 my my grind a lot. 1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:51.879 Okay, but so you know, actually, let's deflect away from 1:39:51.920 --> 1:39:55.680 the negative here. I'm kind of curious you say that 1:39:56.439 --> 1:39:59.479 you have some moods where you don't mind when people 1:39:59.520 --> 1:40:05.639 are asking you these questions. What do you feel like? What? 1:40:05.640 --> 1:40:06.280 What? Tell me? 1:40:06.520 --> 1:40:10.439 Tell me how you feel in these moments where people 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:13.280 ask you these questions and they just roll off your 1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:15.439 back and you're like, oh yeah, maybe you maybe you 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:18.519 even take maybe maybe there are even some moods that 1:40:18.560 --> 1:40:21.719 you're in where you take delight in answering these questions. 1:40:21.720 --> 1:40:22.960 What are what are those moods? 1:40:23.080 --> 1:40:26.920 Like, that's a deep question. 1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:33.680 I don't know. 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:37.120 Usually when I'm like at work, I'm a I'm a 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:42.240 bartender also, so it's like it's nice. A lot of 1:40:42.240 --> 1:40:44.599 old women like it. You get a lot of tips 1:40:44.640 --> 1:40:44.880 from that. 1:40:45.640 --> 1:40:51.800 Mm hm. So you enjoy it as a way of, uh, 1:40:52.080 --> 1:40:54.160 you know, when you are feeling in a sociable mood. 1:40:54.760 --> 1:41:00.120 They function as a way to bring bring people all 1:41:00.200 --> 1:41:06.880 to socialize with you. Is that accurate? I guess. 1:41:07.120 --> 1:41:08.559 But it's not like I'm not like one of those 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:11.760 people who like in my tatchooes or like my personality trait, 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:15.200 you know, it's like I just got them because I 1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:18.320 like them and I appreciate them. 1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:23.479 But people I don't know. 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:25.479 I guess it's I guess maybe it's just the way, 1:41:25.600 --> 1:41:27.760 like maybe it's just the way people ask me. 1:41:29.280 --> 1:41:31.479 The way they are what do you what do you? 1:41:31.600 --> 1:41:33.040 What do you have to say about the way that 1:41:33.120 --> 1:41:37.160 they ask you, because. 1:41:36.880 --> 1:41:40.120 You can always tell, in my opinion, when they ask me, 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:43.360 it's like they always ask me, you know, like the 1:41:43.720 --> 1:41:45.439 basic questions, and they ask you like what do your 1:41:45.439 --> 1:41:46.320 parents think about it? 1:41:47.560 --> 1:41:49.479 And that's like, do you have a question? 1:41:49.600 --> 1:41:51.559 Always makes me feel weird. 1:41:52.040 --> 1:41:56.760 But do you detect that there is some kind of 1:41:58.840 --> 1:42:02.599 shaming on their part in that question in the tone 1:42:02.600 --> 1:42:12.400 of voice of that question, Yeah, okay, see okay? And 1:42:12.400 --> 1:42:14.360 how much of that, would you say, is the reason 1:42:14.400 --> 1:42:16.960 why you don't like getting these questions? 1:42:22.000 --> 1:42:22.360 I don't know. 1:42:22.400 --> 1:42:23.800 I haven't really thought about it that much. 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:28.720 Well, I'm glad we're doing that now. I'm glad we're 1:42:28.720 --> 1:42:35.160 thinking about it because I learned this concept from a 1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:38.920 YouTube video. There's a youth fucking YouTube channel. I think 1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:42.479 it's called Charisma and Command. I was watching one of 1:42:42.479 --> 1:42:46.759 their videos. Learned about this beautiful concept that I'm trying 1:42:46.760 --> 1:42:50.759 to incorporate more in my life. Uh, it's called reading 1:42:50.880 --> 1:42:55.879 positive intent. So, like, if someone asks you a question 1:42:57.160 --> 1:43:03.200 about your tattoo and you think maybe they're like, there's 1:43:03.280 --> 1:43:09.920 there's some like a judgy overtone to it, you know, 1:43:10.040 --> 1:43:14.920 you don't have to accept that as you don't have 1:43:14.960 --> 1:43:18.080 to interpret it that way even if and you don't 1:43:18.120 --> 1:43:22.040 know if that was their intention. You have really kind 1:43:22.080 --> 1:43:23.880 of no way of knowing if that was their intention. 1:43:24.360 --> 1:43:26.240 And regardless of whether or not that was their intention, 1:43:26.439 --> 1:43:28.400 you don't have to interpret it with their intention in mine. 1:43:28.400 --> 1:43:33.240 You can just interpret it as them having whatever the 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:37.639 most genuine intent possible is. Right, So, if someone asked 1:43:37.640 --> 1:43:39.760 you that question, like what do your parents think of 1:43:39.960 --> 1:43:43.600 your tattoos? And maybe you think that they're doing it 1:43:43.600 --> 1:43:45.479 in a shameful way. I mean, you could interpret it 1:43:45.479 --> 1:43:48.439 in any way you desire. You can interpret it as, oh, 1:43:48.520 --> 1:43:52.479 they're just genuinely curious, or oh they're just trying to 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:57.800 make conversation with me, or maybe they're genuinely concerned, or 1:43:57.920 --> 1:44:00.559 I don't know, there's literally any number of positive ways 1:44:01.040 --> 1:44:03.519 you could spin it. And then that's kind of your choice, 1:44:03.760 --> 1:44:06.000 right of, like how you want to interpret that question, 1:44:06.479 --> 1:44:08.800 And so if it's up to you, if it's your choice, 1:44:09.000 --> 1:44:11.880 you know, it would make the most sense if you 1:44:12.040 --> 1:44:15.600 try to interpret those questions in whatever way makes you 1:44:15.760 --> 1:44:18.439 the least annoyed, So that way you get to spend 1:44:18.520 --> 1:44:22.519 less time annoyed, and then you'll probably respond to them 1:44:22.800 --> 1:44:27.479 a little bit more like positive because because you're interpreting 1:44:27.520 --> 1:44:31.840 them as approaching you positively, and then maybe that'll make 1:44:31.880 --> 1:44:35.960 them approach you positively even more. Does any of that 1:44:36.000 --> 1:44:36.719 make any sense? 1:44:38.960 --> 1:44:39.200 Yeah? 1:44:39.240 --> 1:44:43.519 That was pretty Uh, it's pretty crazy think about. 1:44:44.680 --> 1:44:49.320 Yeah. So yeah, you know, I mean, next time someone 1:44:49.360 --> 1:44:54.080 asks you something about your tattoos, you know, regardless of 1:44:55.280 --> 1:44:59.120 even if it's like so glaringly obvious, and I don't 1:44:59.120 --> 1:45:01.400 assume it always is, but even if it is glaringly 1:45:01.439 --> 1:45:04.400 obvious that they are trying to do so in some 1:45:05.360 --> 1:45:10.360 hostile way, just try interpreting it positively and see what happens, 1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:13.160 See how they react, see how you feel, you know, 1:45:14.040 --> 1:45:14.519 if you can. 1:45:16.840 --> 1:45:20.000 Hm, that's all I to think about. 1:45:21.200 --> 1:45:22.880 Is there anything else that you want to talk about 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:25.800 or say to the people of the internet before we go? 1:45:29.280 --> 1:45:33.600 Everybody really wants to know what it is. Seems like 1:45:33.680 --> 1:45:37.600 it it's just a full It's basically just like a 1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:44.240 full Japanese sleeve on my arm. It's like just a 1:45:44.240 --> 1:45:49.759 bunch of different Asian shit. I guess. 1:45:50.000 --> 1:45:52.080 Sounds pretty, but. 1:45:52.120 --> 1:45:54.600 Yeah, it's seems like really like dark and black. So 1:45:54.640 --> 1:45:57.719 that's why people like ask a lot of questions about it. 1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:05.280 Would you say, name was Jason? Jason Gay? Bless you, 1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:06.000 thank you for calling. 1:46:07.960 --> 1:46:13.439 Thank The rep Kid goes on the line taking your 1:46:13.479 --> 1:46:16.680 phone calls every night. The Rep Kid goes doing his 1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:19.320 eye he's teaching you loud the liver of your life. 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:22.639 But he's not really an expert.