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Speaker 1: Hey, folks, this is Lyle here. So on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: I have a guest. It is my friend, Attorney Tom,

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Speaker 1: who has been on this show multiple times before. He's

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Speaker 1: a good pal of mine. He is a catastrophic personal

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Speaker 1: injury attorney, a real attorney, not like how I'm a

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Speaker 1: therapist kind of attorney. He's an actual, real lawyer man

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Speaker 1: and also a YouTuber and a TikToker that I met

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Speaker 1: on TikTok about I want to say a year ago

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Speaker 1: when I really first started getting knee deep into being

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Speaker 1: a gecko. For the first half of this podcast, it's

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Speaker 1: me an attorney Tom, taking calls from the people to

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Speaker 1: hear about times that they've gotten in trouble. And it

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Speaker 1: was a good episode. And I normally hate doing these long,

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Speaker 1: rambley intros. I like to just get into the calls,

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Speaker 1: but I figure that since I have a guest on

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Speaker 1: enough of me, enough of this intro. Let's just get

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Speaker 1: into it.

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Speaker 2: Goes on the line taking phone calls every night, ever,

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Speaker 2: goes to an anxiety.

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Speaker 1: He's teaching you.

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Speaker 3: A line tome.

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Speaker 1: But you know, before we begin, before we start taking

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Speaker 1: phone calls. Is so anything that you want the people

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Speaker 1: to know anything you want to tell the folks of

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Speaker 1: gak Nation before we begin anything at all.

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Speaker 4: Yes, very standard lawyer get goo protocol. I'm not your

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Speaker 4: lawyer and you are calling. Please do not tell us

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Speaker 4: anything that you should consult with a lawyer operating in

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Speaker 4: their professional capacity. You are calling to talk to two

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Speaker 4: geckos who are on the air with presumably thousands of

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Speaker 4: people watching, so be mindful.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is for entertainment purposes only. Don't say anything

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Speaker 1: that could get you in a lot of trouble exactly.

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Speaker 1: Let's begin. Hello Jacob, Yes, Hello, how are you? You're

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Speaker 1: on the phone with Lyle and Terry Tom.

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Speaker 5: Oh holy shit, I'm freaking out a little bit right now.

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Speaker 6: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hi, how you doing? Jacob from Jacob has Kansas.

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Speaker 5: Kansas is cold, flat and boring. I'm more of a

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Speaker 5: Colorado person myself, but I live in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Jacob, we heard that you used to have a

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Speaker 1: job dressing up as the Grinch and you're with fellow

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Speaker 1: fellow green men. It's a safe place and we'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear your story.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so every year, So I should preface I

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Speaker 5: do cosplay. So one of my cosplays that I decided

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Speaker 5: to do many years ago when I was in high

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Speaker 5: school was I get this prosthetic and I would paint

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Speaker 5: myself screen and just do impressions of the Grinch. Someone

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Speaker 5: founded on social media from the city of Manhattan. Oh shoot,

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Speaker 5: I just talked myself anyways, ignore.

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Speaker 1: That Manhattan, Kansas me and they were like.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Manhattan, Kansas, not New York, but Manhattan, Kansas.

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Speaker 4: Continue.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, So I get hired every year to do

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Speaker 5: the Grinch for the city because I found me online

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Speaker 5: and they were like, wow, you do a really good,

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Speaker 5: like impersonation of him. Would you like to come to

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Speaker 5: our Christmas festival that we do every year after Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 5: And so I've been doing this for the past five

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Speaker 5: years and then the year last year. Actually I was

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Speaker 5: not invited back this year, but due to what happens,

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Speaker 5: but I got caught smoking a joint in my car

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Speaker 5: me for a photo. The cops were called and they

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Speaker 5: come to find me in just like a smoked filled car,

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Speaker 5: high as fuck, and I was like, now, this was

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Speaker 5: after the Christmas festival, This was after.

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Speaker 4: Who's the real Grinch in this situation. I think it's

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Speaker 4: the Karen who called the cops on you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, why did she?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why did she call the cops on you? Man? Like

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Speaker 1: she just found you in the car? Like were you

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Speaker 1: was it? That's that's such a classic.

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Speaker 4: Did you get arrested in full Grinch gear?

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Speaker 5: So they brought me down to the station, but they

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Speaker 5: did not arrest me. They gave me a warning. But

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Speaker 5: the funny thing was the officers were thinking it was

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Speaker 5: the funniest ship. They were laughing. I was high as fuck.

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Speaker 5: I was tripping ball.

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Speaker 4: I could see how they I could see how the

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Speaker 1: Do you think that being high what makes you a

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Speaker 1: better Grinch? Do you feel like as you're tripping, you

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Speaker 1: can like get more in touch with his with the

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Speaker 1: zaniness of his character, or do you feel like, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, see, I think I'm the.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I think the police department missed

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Speaker 4: a real opportunity for social media. They could have said, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: Right right right, because they caught you steal in Christmas

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Speaker 1: presents or something.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that arrested the Grinch in parentheses for smoking, Mirjuana.

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 5: You know I could have totally just gone with that,

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Speaker 5: been like, hey, you know what, this would be really

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Speaker 5: good for social media. But like I think at the moment,

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Speaker 5: I was too panicked. I've had a clean record for

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Speaker 5: now I'm a very nervous white man and I'm just

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Speaker 5: I'm just I for no reason.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say of all the like stories

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Speaker 1: we've heard tonight where I'm like where people will be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm I'm you know, I know it was

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Speaker 1: bad that it happened, but it was worth the story.

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Speaker 1: I think this is the one I think that was

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Speaker 1: worth the story, that that was very worth the story.

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Speaker 4: I think those cops will tell that story forever.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure it'll be interesting because I got invited

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Speaker 5: to a Christmas party to do the Grinch, not by

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Speaker 5: the City of Manhat, but there's a lot of uh

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Speaker 5: city workers there, so they're gonna it'll be very interesting.

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Speaker 5: To see how that goes down.

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Speaker 4: Tell me about tell me about some of your other cosplays.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, So are you guys familiar with like

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Speaker 5: Doctor Who or like anything like that?

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Speaker 1: And wait where Tom and I were just taught? Was

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Speaker 1: just Tom? Actually?

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Speaker 4: Last night, Who's Who's your Favorite Doctor?

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Speaker 1: Showed me a clip of Doctor Who. I've never seen it,

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Speaker 1: but Tom as a.

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Speaker 8: Fan, gotcha.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I used to dress up as the Eleventh Doctor

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Speaker 5: So I'd get hired out to all these things, like

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Speaker 4: So it was is the is the Eleventh Doctor the

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Speaker 4: one who always wears the bow tie?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: He's like those ties are cool? And where's a fed

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Speaker 5: and you know it's Tuanamo and all that fun stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's been about six years since I've done it.

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Speaker 4: Though, right on, So Doctor Who and who else?

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Speaker 5: So I've done Newt's Commander from Fantastic Beasts. I'm actually

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Speaker 5: currently three D printing a Mandalorian costume to visit children's hospitals.

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Speaker 10: That's nice, Yeah, but I think one of the most

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Speaker 10: popular one is obviously the Grinch. I actually will film

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Speaker 10: videos as the Grinch for TikTok, And there's a video

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Speaker 10: out there of me pole dancing as the Grinch to

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Speaker 10: stansa baby. And that's it has to be, by by

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Speaker 10: far my favorite cosplay.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Normally I'm like, I'm like, you know whatever about self

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Speaker 1: promo on here, but I'm I'm happy to have you

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Speaker 1: drop your TikTok handle right now if you wish.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just Jack Bucks jac b u.

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Speaker 1: X Jack Bucks j C Bux. I'm gonna check out

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Speaker 1: this Grench cosplay.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, well, don't hate it. It's it's it's a very.

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Speaker 1: No no no, you know, the intentionally cringey cosplay tiktoks.

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Speaker 1: I like them. There's something hypnotizing about Yeah. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you's a safe space for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Can I tell you, guys, one last time I

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Speaker 5: was in trouble?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 1: What is it? How long will it take you to

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Speaker 1: tell it?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Not longer than two minutes?

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Tom?

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Speaker 4: Can you do it in fifteen seconds?

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Speaker 1: Can you do it in fifteen seconds?

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Speaker 5: Fifteen seconds? Okay? So twenty first birthday, I get taken

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Speaker 5: out by two friends they abandoned me. I do thirty

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Speaker 5: two shots wake up in the hospital with the felone.

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Speaker 1: That was under ten seconds.

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Speaker 4: That was great? First of all, what is yeah? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Well that's good because I mean, was it like, why

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Speaker 4: were you? What were you charged with me? Obviously you

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Speaker 4: were clearly too intoxicated. I'm glad you're alive. Thirty six

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Speaker 4: Was it just like public intoxication or was the deal

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Speaker 5: Remember public intoxication? And I jumped on a police car.

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Speaker 1: Who were you dressed as?

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Speaker 11: Then?

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Speaker 5: I was dressed as myself, just a very skinny twenty

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Speaker 5: one year old kid in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jacob man, look, we hope you stay out of trouble,

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Speaker 1: and uh we wish you good luck in your cosplaying adventures.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thank you you guys. Have a great

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Speaker 5: rest of your night. I've been listening to a podcast

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Speaker 5: for forever for now. You guys are amazing lyle I

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Speaker 5: fucking love you and Tom keep doing that law shit.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jacob, have a goodness to night.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the kind words. Raven, Yes, hello, how

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Speaker 1: are you Raven?

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Speaker 12: I'm doing well. I would ask how you are, But

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Speaker 12: you're a get go on on the computer.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 12: I just feel like I feel like ninety percent of

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Speaker 12: the time I've heard you answer that question, you answer

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Speaker 12: with I'm a get go on the computer. We just

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Speaker 12: I just know the bit.

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Speaker 1: Now you can ask how Tom is feeling?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Attorney Tom, Well, I'm a get go on the computer.

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Speaker 12: That's that's a good joke. I like that.

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Speaker 13: It wasn't a joke, hie.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean sure, there's nothing inherently funny about about that,

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Speaker 1: because it's just the truth.

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Speaker 4: You are a guy, I'm exuding on the computer.

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Speaker 1: How can Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I think that's the whole Oh okay, Yeah, So have

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Speaker 12: I ever been in trouble? I'm a retired drug dealer

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Speaker 12: and I've done a good job of avoiding trouble. But

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Speaker 12: I've been in lots of situations that I could have

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Speaker 12: been in trouble, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 12: And my first piece of advice for anyone that finds

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Speaker 12: themselves in trouble or like doing trouble would be break

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Speaker 12: one lot of time. If you're going to break the law, like,

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Speaker 12: So yeah, it just like like, don't get in trouble

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, that's exactly I was gonna say, because the

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Speaker 1: I I did, I did, I remember exactly what you're

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Speaker 12: Mm hmmm hmm.

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Speaker 12: And I appreciated that because, uh, you know, when you

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Speaker 3: So if you.

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Speaker 1: Ever, if you ever start a campaign for more representation

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Speaker 1: Oh, we know what you're saying. We know what you're saying. Ravan,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for colling and sharing with us,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I am I was sure the best

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Speaker 12: Thank you Gek, and thank you Attorning Tom. It was

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Speaker 13: All right, all right, have a good night.

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Speaker 1: A raven. I take back what I said Uh, Tom,

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Speaker 4: He got extremely lucky. I mean that that whole deal

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Speaker 4: He he brought some very interesting legal issues. As he

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Speaker 1: Steven, How are you.

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Speaker 9: Good?

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Speaker 11: Are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm here with attorney Tom and uh,

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Speaker 1: how can we help you.

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Speaker 6: Well, basically today it's I don't want to look at chat.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just no, no look at chat when chat's going on

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Speaker 1: between you and me and attorney time exactly.

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Speaker 6: So I'm a part of like the LGBT community, word

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Speaker 6: Wars and stuff. But they were airing The Notebook and

446
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 6: me and my boyfriend we love Ryan Gosling, so like

447
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 6: we don't really know the whole plot of the movie,

448
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 6: but it just so embarrassing. We just got really like

449
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 6: I got really turned on and asked him to start

450
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 6: jerking me off, and he did, and apparently there were

451
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 6: complaints and the staff came in and kicked us out.

452
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: And you added, to start jerking you off in the

453
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: middle of the Notebook, And was it because we were, like, you.

454
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,360
Speaker 6: Know, we were holding hands and stuff, and he had

455
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 6: his like he put.

456
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 11: His hand on my thigh.

457
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 6: And then I just asked, you know, I just asked

458
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 6: them to take it to the next level, and he.

459
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: Did, and and what was it was just was it

460
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: was it Ryan Gosling that made you like so.

461
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 6: Honestly, once you started touching the movie just we just

462
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 6: stopped watching. But yes, initially was Ryan Gosslin?

463
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: Interesting? And now is this?

464
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: Let me?

465
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Is this the thing? Is the thing for you of

466
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: like sexual excitement? Like like the fact that it's it's

467
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: a it's a sort of quasi in public thing. Does

468
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: that add to the the to the experience for you?

469
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're so bad. Yeah, we we like public humiliations,

470
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 6: Like we do this thing at can't. We have this

471
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 6: theme part called Ken's Wonderland and we go in there

472
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 6: and we wear diapers and like when we when we

473
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 6: wait in line, we we drink a bunch of fluids

474
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 6: and we just pissed ourselves and so bad.

475
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting? Can I talk to your boyfriend? Is he

476
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: with you?

477
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

478
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 13: For sure?

479
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: I did.

480
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 5: You already knows.

481
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 11: How are you doing, sir?

482
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Isaac?

483
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm good myself?

484
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: So Isaac, Isaac? So how did you? How did you?

485
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: What was your initial reaction when your boyfriend asked you

486
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: to jerk him off in the middle of the notebook?

487
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: Did you did you?

488
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: Were you into it?

489
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: Immediately?

490
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Or was he or or did you have some apprehensions

491
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: about it beforehand?

492
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 14: No, no, no, no.

493
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 12: My boyfriend asked me to do something.

494
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: I do it for him. He's my lover.

495
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

496
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 15: Oh, thank you danced.

497
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Drenny Tom Tom What do you have to say about this?

498
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: After y'all were you were just after after y'all were caught,

499
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: y'all were just asked to leave.

500
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, nothing more than that.

501
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 15: Well, there was a little bit of struggling. You know,

502
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 15: you're trying to fight it off because you know it's

503
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 15: kind of offered. Some people just coming up to us

504
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 15: and you know, ha, hands on my clover's penis it

505
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 15: through hard. Bryan Goslin's on the streen and I just

506
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 15: we can't help ourselves and sexually, Ryan Goslin, Oh, our

507
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 15: court date.

508
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 4: So it was so you did. So there was.

509
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 11: A little bit yeah, a little.

510
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: Bit, okay, So you didn't just get kicked out. They

511
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: pressed charge it.

512
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 4: You got a ticket.

513
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: You get a ticket.

514
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 12: Yet there wasn't no family at the bottom.

515
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: They were at the bottom though you made sure everyone

516
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: was not near.

517
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 16: So we.

518
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: Did get the back seats.

519
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: Look, you brother could just come to you guys can

520
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: be on speaker and.

521
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 4: Just what what let's talk about what happened at court.

522
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 6: Well, we can't afford an attorney, so we had like

523
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 6: a free one for us public different.

524
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 17: It's actually really it's.

525
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 6: Actually really nice. Like we're young.

526
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: We're like, right, I'm eighteen, okay, good, okay.

527
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they were going to charge like at the

528
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 6: time we were at the time, I was seventeen because

529
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: my birthday was in August. Tell me, yo, Leo, but

530
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 6: what's your scorpio?

531
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 11: Fine? By the way, my what.

532
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 17: You're a.

533
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 4: Down hey lyle as funny as.

534
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: I think you don't think you don't think we should

535
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: check this? No, okay, Steven, Uh, good luck to you

536
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: guys in the future. Uh. And you both have a

537
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: one for us of the day.

538
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 6: You're not going to help us, No, let's.

539
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: Jesus, Chris.

540
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: I just want it is very important that they were

541
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: both that.

542
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: They're both over eighteen time of this situation. Yes, yes,

543
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: I fully agree with that sentiment.

544
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: But you know, you don't want to They clearly like

545
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 4: the embarrassment thing.

546
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, look, if you look, here's the thing is it?

547
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: And and I think this is a popular sentiment. I

548
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: think people if you can whatever whatever you derive pleasure

549
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: from in life, you know, as long as you can

550
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: do it without uh, you know, negatively affecting the people

551
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: around you, go for it. The kind of the question

552
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: is did they negatively affect the people around them? I

553
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: would also argue yes, yeah, so you know, maybe I

554
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, look, if you can find a

555
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: way to uh, you know, feel shame pissing your pants

556
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: at home, dude, make a lot, make a lot. Here's

557
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: here's my make a live stream where you're pissing your

558
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: pants in a diaper, like on the internet. And then

559
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: that way, everyone who wants to be a part of

560
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: that can then join, and then you're not you know,

561
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: uh in you know, in convincing the people who do

562
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: not wish to take part in your in your embarrassments. Yes, okay,

563
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's move on.

564
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 8: Hello, who hey?

565
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 11: Can you?

566
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: How how be you?

567
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 11: I'm doing pretty all right, you know, got good work

568
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 11: done today, sort of a long day, so it's been

569
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 11: nice to relax a little bit. But I, uh, I

570
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 11: called in because I wanted to ask Attorney Tom what

571
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 11: is the what is it? Kind of like the statute

572
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 11: of limitations on a like maybe food tampering might be

573
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 11: what this is considered, or uh, I wouldn't necessarily, but.

574
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the short answer is it's going to depend.

575
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: It's going to depend on the state, and it's going

576
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: to depend on what the charge that has brought against

577
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: you is, because every charge is going to potentially have

578
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: a different statute of limitations. And so I mean food tampering,

579
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: you're probably in the realm of like assault, because I

580
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: mean that you're literally, even though you're not punching somebody,

581
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: you're changing somebody's food. They digest it, it's harmful to

582
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: their body. You're probably looking at some form of assault,

583
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: criminal misconduct, or mischief. There's probably like a bazillion other charges.

584
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: So it's just going to depend. So I don't know,

585
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 4: without for sure, without knowing the state you're in, and

586
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: without knowing what exactly the prosecutor would charge, and there's

587
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: no way to know that. It's just going to depend,

588
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: which is why the famous saying for all lawyers is

589
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: it depends.

590
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 11: Right right, Luckily I'm calling about someone who isn't me

591
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 11: swim sure you will.

592
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: It's a story yeah, or a story yeah, I got.

593
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 11: So you know, back in my someone else's college days.

594
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 11: They were in a fraternity, and they when they were

595
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 11: in when they were a pledge. This for particular fraternities

596
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 11: idea of haydn was just like hitting people and boarding

597
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 11: them in between like rafts of a wall and stuff.

598
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 11: So this person got tired of things like that real quick.

599
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 11: And the school was like sixty to seventy in the

600
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 11: Greek system. And I'm going to wrap up the context

601
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 11: as quickly as i can. But the same week that

602
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 11: this person left, the fraternity was alsoted for feeling so

603
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 11: they kind of lost all of their friends right at

604
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 11: the same time. Felt pretty depressed, so they decided to

605
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 11: do a dumb thing. This fraternity's house was right up

606
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 11: against the woods, and before big parties they would make

607
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 11: up their jungle.

608
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Juice and these huge.

609
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 11: Twenty to thirty gallon containers and they put the this

610
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 11: container in the laundry room, which had a window to

611
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 11: the outside. The night before the biggest party, it's the

612
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 11: person they've waited overnight, got to relate and just just

613
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 11: pissed and all of the all of the stuff that

614
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 11: these people were going to be drinking before probably the

615
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 11: largest party of the year, maybe two hundred, three hundred people.

616
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 11: So just to be clear, this person's so guilty about

617
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 11: it much later. But uh sure, but so what there's

618
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 11: something like that look.

619
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 4: Like yeah, well, so I'm assuming that obviously this this

620
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: person was never caught and that everybody consumed this jungle juice.

621
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 11: That that is exactly correct.

622
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably, yeah, that's probably. It's probably some form

623
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: of assault.

624
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: Three hundred, three hundred counts.

625
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: Allegedly, allegedly allegendly of course. Yeah, you know. The good

626
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 4: news is I would argue that probably ninety nine percent

627
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: of the people who drank your pee probably don't know

628
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: that they drank your pea to this day. So sometimes

629
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 4: ignorance is.

630
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 11: Bliss exactly right, exactly right. That and if Dodgeball taught

631
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 11: me anything, it's that you're in a sterile.

632
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: So I'm so I'm wondering nobody said anything. Nobody can play.

633
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: So well, I think that I think that says more

634
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 4: about the jungle juice than it does his pit. I

635
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: mean I mean that that it's just like they literally

636
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: grab like whatever the hell they can find.

637
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, look, for all we know, they pissed

638
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: in it before you did.

639
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 11: That. That is true, honestly, considering the way these guys acting.

640
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: And so did and and this person were they at

641
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: the party.

642
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 11: No, they did not attend the party. They promptly drove

643
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 11: home through the weekend.

644
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Okay, and you never heard anything.

645
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: And did this person ever tell anybody about this?

646
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 11: Not? Not, not until the night of that same party

647
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 11: the following year.

648
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: Interesting, m well, uh, you know it just just.

649
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 11: From who remained at the school at that point up.

650
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: Well, you know a lot of people, Yeah, a lot

651
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: of people would never get caught if they just kept

652
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: their mouth shut. You know, you see a lot of

653
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 4: criminals who get caught just because you know, they need

654
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: the urge to tell their story. I'm not saying that

655
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 4: you know this is gonna happen here. I was more

656
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: referring to, like, you know, you telling somebody at the

657
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: school year later, that was a pretty dangerous move.

658
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 11: None of the none of the people that were informed

659
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 11: of this were still there. They were they were long

660
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 11: gone and happy to be gone.

661
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 4: And then also, you know, you got to worry about proof.

662
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: You know, really, the only thing you could get caught

663
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: for at that point is you know, this person's testimony,

664
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: you know, because there would be no like actual evidence,

665
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: So the only thing the person. The person could shoot

666
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: himself in the foot by just admitting to it. But

667
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, other than that that you were

668
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: proof is there?

669
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: Right?

670
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: Very interesting?

671
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: Well what did you? Their name was anonymous? You're you're

672
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: well Annon? Well Annon, and actually before we go and

673
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, and in this person they see you, they've

674
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: expressed guilt over this. Is there anything? Is there anything

675
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: you think they've done? Uh, moving forward in their lives

676
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: that you know, as an attempt to of rectification, either

677
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: either rectification towards the parties involved or or maybe even

678
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: more so, a general rectification of adding good into the

679
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: universe to balance out to the bad they feel they have.

680
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 11: Added, Oh, definitely, and that that started by working on

681
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 11: their own pressed feelings, right like you. I mean, if

682
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 11: you've got to kind of work through your own ship

683
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 11: before you can start helping other people fix theirs. And uh, uh,

684
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 11: you know, they've definitely done their best to be there

685
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 11: for people and uh just continue to do stuff like therapy. Right,

686
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 11: it's a big deal. But this was more than ten

687
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 11: years ago, so this person has changed nearly entirely.

688
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful, Well, thank you so much for sharing, Ann,

689
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: And you have a good rest of the.

690
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 11: Night YouTube, let go YouTube three time to see you

691
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 11: guys later.

692
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: Se yep, very interesting.

693
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask if someone someone came to you and

694
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: they were like you were like, Tom, I drink piss

695
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: and I want to see the person would you take

696
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Would you take that case?

697
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 4: Almost certainly not. Yeah, it's uncomfortable and I would certainly

698
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: not want anybody to drink piss. But civil lawsuits, lawsuits

699
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: where you sue over money, are only quantifiable on money damage.

700
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 4: And you know what is drinking somebody mistakingly drinking piss

701
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: worth you know, I would argue that, you know it's

702
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 4: gonna be I don't know, and keep in mind, it's

703
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: not just straight piss, it's piss mixed with you know,

704
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: a bunch of alcohol. I would argue, you know, it's

705
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: probably not enough money wise to justify a lawyer getting involved,

706
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: because I mean, these cases take hundreds and hundreds of

707
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 4: hours and years to mature, and I'm not gonna go

708
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 4: take a case for you know, insignificant amount of money.

709
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: You know, you can actually you can drink your own

710
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: piss three times and it's apparently it's like totally fine.

711
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: He said three times.

712
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Apparently three apparently what happened to the fourth I don't

713
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: know what happens at the fourth time. I've never drank

714
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: my piss four times.

715
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: Okay, but well, you know, honestly, like that Jungle Juice,

716
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: you're not justifying this story. Yeah, like I promise they

717
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 4: did not taste. The thing jungle Juice had college frat

718
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: parties is like they buy five different types of alcohol,

719
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: like the bottom of the barrel, shitty plastic, uh, you know,

720
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 4: fifths of it and they just pour it all in together.

721
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Well I bet that if well, I mean in his story, right,

722
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: he was saying like there was like barrels of it, right, Yeah,

723
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I bet that. I mean, there's no way he produced

724
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: like an equal amount of piss where it was like

725
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: it was it was, it could have only been at

726
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: minimum half piss. So I mean each cup of jungle

727
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: juice probably contained like what percentage of that cup was

728
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: p like like like less than probably one percent less. Cynthia?

729
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: Is that you?

730
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 18: Hello? Yes, I'm good.

731
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: How are you?

732
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: We're hanging out? What's uh, what's going on with you? Cynthia?

733
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 9: So I actually have a funny story to say. It

734
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 9: kind of could have gotten me in trouble, but with

735
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 9: a little bit of lying, it didn't.

736
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 4: Now before were we continue? Before we continue? If this

737
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 4: story gets exposed to the public, is there any chance

738
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: of you eventually getting caught or has enough time passed

739
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: where you're not worried about it?

740
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 9: Enough time has definitely passed.

741
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: Okay, let's hear it.

742
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 9: So I actually had a boyfriend that he was like

743
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 9: my high school sweetheart whatever, and he just made me crazy,

744
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 9: like he just I don't I don't know, I don't know.

745
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: How to explain it.

746
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 9: But we were broken up for a little and I

747
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 9: found out that he was like, you know, just like

748
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 9: kind of messing with me, like he wasn't really like

749
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 9: taking me serious anymore. So I went with one of

750
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 9: my friends and I spray painted his car, and I

751
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 9: also put sand in his gas tank and then gets sand.

752
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: I live in They don't just have sand lying around.

753
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: She lives in Florida.

754
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 9: But we went to the beach. We went to the

755
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 9: beach and got sand.

756
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: All right, tell me tell me about let's go into

757
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: the spray paint. Was there any particular shapes or message

758
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: that you wrote.

759
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, there was actually hard and smiley faces and pretty

760
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 9: much everything that would point to.

761
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: Me and and let me just be clear, you were

762
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 4: not his girlfriend at the time.

763
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 9: We well, okay, so we were dating for like four

764
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 9: or five years, and we had taken like a break

765
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 9: and we were you know, like still talking every other day,

766
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 9: but we weren't boyfriend and girlfriend like officially at the

767
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 9: time because we were like broken up.

768
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: So and what was the straw that broke the camel's back?

769
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 9: So we had just like you know, hung out the

770
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 9: day before and then this girl calls me and she

771
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 9: tells me, why.

772
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 18: Are you hanging out with my man?

773
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 9: And I'm like what I was like, okay, girl, this

774
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 9: has been my man for like four years. And I

775
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 9: was like really angry, but it was it was a

776
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 9: scary type of angry, and I didn't I didn't know

777
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 9: how else to handle that anger, so I just kind

778
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 9: of lashed out.

779
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: How long between getting that phone call and you spray

780
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: painting and putting sand in their gas tank? Did that happen?

781
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 4: Did Was it was that like a you got that

782
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: call and you you immediately started or did you think

783
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: about it for a couple of days?

784
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 14: No?

785
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 9: No, I instantly did it and like that same night.

786
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: And you didn't even like, you didn't even like ask

787
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: him for any clarification, because it seems like a pretty

788
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: random phone call to get you didn't do any sort

789
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: of investigation or get any sort of follow up information before.

790
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 9: I had a fake Instagram, so I was following her

791
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 9: and him on the fake Instagram and then I saw

792
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 9: that she had posted a picture with him, and I

793
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 9: was like, what in the world? And then I called

794
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 9: him and he told me that he's just like some

795
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 9: some you know, hoe that he's just banging whatever. And

796
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 9: I'm like, how does she know that I called you? Like,

797
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 9: there's there's no way, there's no way that that's just

798
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 9: what she is.

799
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 4: Okay, So, so do you remember what type of car

800
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: it was?

801
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 9: Yeah?

802
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: But I shouldn't.

803
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 9: I probably shouldn't say.

804
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine.

805
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 9: It was a really nice car and it was expensive.

806
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: Okay, like how expensive we we're talking about? Give me

807
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: a price range.

808
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe I should say I don't care time enough

809
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 9: time has passed, and what's enough time?

810
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 13: Uh?

811
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 9: Like eight nine years?

812
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: Okay? I mean, you know, I don't know what the

813
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: statute of limitations is, but but I feel like, you know,

814
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: it's you're.

815
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Here, it's probably enough time.

816
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: You're again, I'm not your lawyer. This is a legal

817
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: advice here will do this, but you know, if you

818
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: want to, if you want to divulge to the world,

819
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: what kind.

820
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 9: Of car it was, So I won't say, Okay, I'll

821
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 9: say it's an It was an Audie and it was

822
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 9: a really nice car.

823
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: But yeah.

824
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 9: So I ended up going with my friend and he

825
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 9: helped me spray paint the car. And we were like,

826
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 9: wearing all black, no one can see us. We covered

827
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 9: his like, uh license plate and everything, and and I

828
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 9: spray painted his car and we ended up leaving and then.

829
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: Did it feel good to spray pants his car?

830
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not even worried about the spray paint. I'm

831
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: more worried about the sandy gas tanks.

832
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 9: It did it did get it get ruined. And I

833
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 9: felt so bad because listen, I've done a lot of

834
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 9: growing and I'm like, I'm a different person now, but

835
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 9: I I'm kind of feeling a little guilty still because

836
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 9: he thinks that I didn't do it to this day.

837
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: Oh he doesn't know you did?

838
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: What the okay? What does he?

839
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: So?

840
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, So the next the next morning, I wake

841
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 9: up to a voicemail from the sheriff's office saying, oh,

842
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 9: we just have some questions for you. You were listed

843
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 9: as a primary suspect in your ex's like, you know,

844
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 9: vandalization of his car, and I was like, oh my god,

845
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 9: something's gonna happened to me. But I was like, I

846
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 9: use the excuse that I don't even have a car,

847
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 9: so how would I even get there?

848
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: You made a mistake, and now you got away. For

849
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: anybody in the chat, he's listening the correct answer when

850
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: the police call you, Lyle, can you guess.

851
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: I say, I need to talk to a lawyer.

852
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: For I will not talk to you without my lawyer. Yeah,

853
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: that it's the only acceptable response, even if you're innocent,

854
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: especially if you're innocent, I will not talk to you.

855
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: I want I answer any questions without my lawyer. But

856
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: so continue. So you you spoke to the police and

857
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 4: you told them that you just didn't have a car,

858
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: so that was your excuse, and you were your.

859
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: Own Yeah, and.

860
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 9: I was okay. I was seventeen at the time, and

861
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 9: my mom was next to me and she's like, well,

862
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 9: you have to call them back. You can't just leave

863
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 9: them wondering. And so I called him back and I

864
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 9: was like, hey, I received a voice from me.

865
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 18: Yeah, And they were like okay, okay, so you you

866
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 18: weren't near him or the car ever since this and

867
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 18: this day, and I was like, yeah, I haven't seen

868
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 18: him since then.

869
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 9: I don't have a car, so it's like, how would

870
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 9: I even be able to do that ever since then? Like,

871
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 9: he just never pursued anything after that.

872
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: He doesn't think. I still think he thinks it was you. Yeah,

873
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: he listed you as Its pretty obvious on the day

874
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: you confronted him about having another girl. He thinks, when

875
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: was the last time you spoke to him in the

876
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: last eight years? Have you seen him around town?

877
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 9: We've we've been on and off ever since then, Like I, yeah,

878
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 9: we've we've been on and off ever since then. And

879
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 9: on top of that, I when.

880
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: Was the last time you saw him?

881
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 9: About about a month ago? I saw him, But I've

882
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 9: seen I talked to him four days ago.

883
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 4: On the phone, And to this day, he still doesn't know.

884
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 9: Nope, he totally knows.

885
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: He knows. Are you are you? Like?

886
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 9: What are you?

887
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Are you together?

888
00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 16: Like?

889
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: Are you are you on right now? Or are you off?

890
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 9: No? We're not, No, we're off we've been off I

891
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 9: want to say for a year. He just like randomly

892
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 9: called me sometimes and she'll like ask me like, hey,

893
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 9: how are you doing? Do you want to go get food?

894
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 17: Do you want to go?

895
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever would you ever be Would you ever

896
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: tell him that it was you? No? Oh my goodness, No,

897
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: I would never. How do you think he would react?

898
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he already knows, But how do you think

899
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: he would react to you admitting it? Do you guys?

900
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a kid together?

901
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 9: I think that he would be a presson background.

902
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 1: I'm sorry say that again?

903
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: Said you'd never talked to him again? He would never

904
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: talk to him again.

905
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 9: No, he would never talk to me again.

906
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 4: Did you ever think that you had it in you,

907
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,240
Speaker 4: like that amount of rage to go and destroy someone's car?

908
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: Have you ever felt that feeling since?

909
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 14: No?

910
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 9: I think I learned from that because the guilt is

911
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 9: just too much for me. So I don't think I

912
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 9: would ever do that again.

913
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 6: I can't.

914
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 9: I can't ever do something like that again. I can't

915
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 9: let my anger get to me.

916
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: At least so well, Cynthia, thank you for sharing. Is

917
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to say before we go?

918
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: No?

919
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 18: No, that's it.

920
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 9: Thank you, guys.

921
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: I have a good rest of the night.

922
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: Cynthia, you too, Gray.

923
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: There's no way that guy doesn't think that Cynthia was

924
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: the one who did it. I mean, who ell, who

925
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 4: the fuck else? You get confronted about having another woman

926
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 4: in your life and then that night your car gets destroyed. Yeah,

927
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 4: I don't mind you. The spray paints not the worst part.

928
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 4: It's the sand and the engine. Yeah, the guy knows.

929
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: The guy knows. It's interesting that he's still, you know,

930
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: calling her every now and then. They've been sounds like

931
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 4: they've dated since.

932
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the fact that she said that he

933
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: would never talk to her again if he knew, I

934
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: mean he he How would that be the one thing?

935
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: And I feel like that's just not that's not healthy,

936
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: Like if you have a secret that you can't tell somebody.

937
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 4: I feel like that relationship just needs to end, you know,

938
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: like the fact you know, there's no good outcome of

939
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 4: that relationship, right right. Well, I hope Cynthia finds peace.

940
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: I hope they both find peace. I hope that they

941
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: don't have to go out and well, you know, maybe,

942
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean only maybe, maybe it would fix the relationship

943
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: if she let him spray pant.

944
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 4: Her car and put sand in the in the gas

945
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: and put sand in the gas. That just stinks offensive equalizer, you.

946
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, I don't. I don't believe that. And I

947
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: for an eye, Yeah, this is the right way to go.

948
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't believe for a second that he

949
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: knows He's got.

950
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: To know Alex from Montana. Now, I've never been I've

951
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: never been to Montana. I don't know if I ever

952
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: will go to Montana.

953
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 4: I've heard Montana is extremely beautiful.

954
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 11: It is.

955
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: I've heard nothing about Montana ever, nothing. I haven't heard it.

956
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever told me a single thing about Montana. Really, Yeah,

957
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: do you want to never talked to You're the first

958
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: person in my entire life I think I've ever talked

959
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: to you about Monty.

960
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 4: Tell us about Montana. We want to know. I'm curious.

961
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 13: Montana has a population of just over a million people

962
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 13: of the state is public wilderness property?

963
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: And how does how does that make you feel?

964
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 13: That it's public property?

965
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 11: Yes?

966
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 13: Yes, how did that make me feel? It makes me

967
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 13: feel good? You know. It means that it means that

968
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 13: I can whenever I want, I can wake up and

969
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 13: I can go drive and I can walk around in

970
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 13: nature and experience nature.

971
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Alex, have you ever been in trouble?

972
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 11: Yeah?

973
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: What happened?

974
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 13: I I I crashed my car into another person's car

975
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 13: and then kind of did like a like a a

976
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 13: subsequent kind of like run from the police.

977
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: So I guess, Okay, how do you.

978
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: Get caught.

979
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 13: Not by the police. I got in trouble with my

980
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 13: my family, but the police did not catch me.

981
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: You you mentioned in the in the the call screen

982
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: or mentioned in the notes that you were like doing

983
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: some drifting in a gravel parking lot to impress some girls.

984
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, And.

985
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 4: Did you impress them?

986
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 13: And me and a friend of mine did we impress them? Well,

987
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 13: in a roundabout way, I ended up, you know, I

988
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 13: got I got some girl's phone numbers, and I think

989
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 13: actually one girl did did want to give me her

990
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 13: her phone number because she had seen me drifting and

991
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 13: crash into the the other girl. And so I guess

992
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 13: in a weird way, I might have impressed them. I

993
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 13: don't know. Maybe maybe it's not quite like him.

994
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: You you crash, and you crash and wanted to the

995
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: other girls so they know who you are.

996
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, we actually we exchanged like contact information.

997
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: Right, you would have had to exchange information.

998
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: So I don't understand why you're not running from the

999
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: police at this point then, and why where are the

1000
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: police even then?

1001
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1002
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, So what happened was it was like it was

1003
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 13: like a music venue and the gravel there was a

1004
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 13: gravel parking lot outside, and me and my friend decided

1005
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 13: that we wanted to drift around to impress girls, and

1006
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 13: so we were drifting, and another car with two girls

1007
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 13: in it saw us drifting and wanted to join in,

1008
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 13: and so they started drifting as well, and both of

1009
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 13: our cars drifted into each other, and so that's where

1010
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 13: it's kind of like it was like iffy about whose

1011
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 13: fault it was, and we were both like accusing each

1012
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 13: other of like it's your fault, and so we were

1013
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 13: like pretty upset. And so her car was pretty damage

1014
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 13: dented in on the side, but mine was pretty much fine.

1015
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 13: And so what happened and was someone from the music

1016
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 13: venue called the police because there had been a wreck,

1017
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 13: but me and the girl, neither of us wanted anything

1018
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 13: to do with the police because I think I think

1019
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 13: she was high or something and I had I had

1020
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 13: substances in my car that I didn't want getting, you know,

1021
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 13: involved in kind of like a legal legal trouble. So

1022
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 13: we both agreed to kind of try and try and

1023
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 13: limit the amount of trouble that we would get in.

1024
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 13: And so I left and I found out later that she.

1025
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 4: Left as well.

1026
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 7: We both left the scene, and then the police came

1027
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 7: looking for both of us, I guess, but we were

1028
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 7: driving around the city. It's a pretty small city, but

1029
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 7: trying to just avoid police trying to find us to

1030
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 7: find out why had happened because this venue had called

1031
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 7: about a wreck.

1032
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: Uh.

1033
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: So you got the girl's front up her Do you

1034
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: do important question? Do you guys still keep contact?

1035
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 11: No?

1036
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 13: No, I ended up. No, No, it didn't work out.

1037
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: No, because here's the thing is, if you're going to form,

1038
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: if you're going to begin a relationship or a courtship

1039
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: on the foundation of her primary interest in you being

1040
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: your ability to drift, you know, I mean, how I

1041
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: can how far can that really go?

1042
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 12: Well?

1043
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1044
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 13: I mean I think you know, there's there's like a

1045
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 13: famous film series called like Fast and Furious, and they

1046
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 13: drift in those and you know, they have the means

1047
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 13: about family being everything and they I think they have

1048
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 13: a really deep, deep relationship. And I think in some

1049
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 13: way you could say that that stems from drifting. And

1050
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 13: so I'd argue that that you could form a strong

1051
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 13: bond out of out of out of a love of drifting.

1052
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 13: You know, even if, even if you're both bad enough

1053
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 13: to drift into each other, I think you can come

1054
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 13: out of that with some kind of an interesting.

1055
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: Uh that's almost poetic. They drifted into each other?

1056
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 9: Man?

1057
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: All right?

1058
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I think everything I said. I'm on your side well, Alex, Yeah, Alex. Uh,

1059
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: I hope that your dating life continues to go well

1060
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: and let you stay out of trouble.

1061
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I actually I have a wonderful girlfriend, So

1062
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 13: dating life is going well?

1063
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: And uh, well, does she even know that you can drift?

1064
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: Have you drifted in front of her before? Are saving that?

1065
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 11: Do you do you want?

1066
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 13: Do you want to know a funny story about drifting

1067
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 13: and my current girlfriend?

1068
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: How long will it take you to tell it?

1069
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 13: I can do it in fifteen seconds.

1070
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 4: Are you doing.

1071
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 11: Okay? The first time I ever drove her in my car.

1072
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 13: To go to my back to my house, I I

1073
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 13: was pulling onto my driveway and I hit some black

1074
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 13: ice and the car drifted into a fence post and

1075
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 13: the entire front of my car got like exploded everywhere.

1076
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 13: So I was like an involuntary drifting with my my

1077
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 13: like the first time I ever drove with her in

1078
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 13: my car.

1079
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: So twenty five seconds.

1080
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: Not it's not.

1081
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, you have the rest of the night.

1082
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're too, thanks.

1083
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 12: I don't.

1084
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like, I don't funk with car.

1085
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've never been like a car guy or like,

1086
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: let me do something cool and mic neither.

1087
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't care let me have a.

1088
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: Cool and I've never wanted like a cool car.

1089
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: To me, cars are just to get to point A

1090
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: to point B.

1091
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly. I'll take a show. I will drive

1092
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: the shittiest fucking car as long as it worked, like

1093
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: like if it's like aesthetically shitty. I don't care why

1094
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: music and yeah, see, I.

1095
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: Don't really care about the brand or like you know,

1096
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 4: to me, it's all about safety, you know. Obviously I'm

1097
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 4: a Persondree lawyer. I see some ship. I will never

1098
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: not drive an suv. Yeah, every car that I will

1099
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 4: own for the rest of my real life will be

1100
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 4: an suv. You've been in my car. It's an s ev. Yeah,

1101
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 4: it's intentional. I will not drive you never drama cars.

1102
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 4: I will never drive small cars.

1103
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: Should I get rid of my shudan? Should I get

1104
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: a bigger.

1105
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: If you have the option, you should always have an suv?

1106
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Really?

1107
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: Why is it because other people are going to have

1108
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 4: bigger cars than you? Yeah, and it's just a you.

1109
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: Know, would you ever get like a big van?

1110
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd get a big van. I just wouldn't get

1111
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 4: a small car.

1112
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I'd love to. Uh.

1113
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: I'd love to live in a city where I could

1114
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: just walk every I fuck. I just I hate cars.

1115
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: Like I hate cars too.

1116
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: I hate cars the most, Like when you're going through

1117
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: your day, when you're going through your daily life, Like

1118
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: that's the most dangerous situation you're in every fucking day.

1119
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely.

1120
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: And plus you know, look when you're walking, when you're

1121
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: taking the subway, you can get as drunk as you want. Yeah,

1122
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: who gives a ship, But in a car, it's very bad.

1123
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: It's very bad.

1124
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: Tristan from Arizona, Yo, Dude, how are you doing Tristan.

1125
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 11: About damn time?

1126
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 4: Dude? Pick forever?

1127
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: Dude of Tristan. I'm here with time on the phone.

1128
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that I mean anything?

1129
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 16: You know?

1130
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: I know we have the topic. I think at this

1131
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: point we're kind of chilling it if is there? Is

1132
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: there anything in particular you wanted to talk about Tristan?

1133
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: Anything at all?

1134
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1135
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: It was just like, so, you know whose flipot is?

1136
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: What is it?

1137
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 4: Slip not?

1138
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 10: You know who?

1139
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? Slip Yeah? Like the band?

1140
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 13: Yeah dude.

1141
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 8: So they were here and there was a couple of

1142
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 8: weeks ago and I helped set the big old bonfire

1143
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 8: that was going on and ship and like that like

1144
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 8: stopped the concert for like a couple like probably thirty minutes.

1145
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 8: So and like that shit was crazy, man, Like that

1146
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 8: she got a control that she got like hell, a

1147
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 8: bit of a dude. The bonfire, yeah, man, like it

1148
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 8: kind of got scary for U SEC. I was like fuck,

1149
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 8: like we kept throwing launchers and that ship, like it

1150
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 8: was kind of crazy.

1151
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 3: Man.

1152
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: COVID dude, what okay, COVID true? You have COVID right now?

1153
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1154
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: Man?

1155
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, man, God damn it.

1156
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: How recently were you at this concert?

1157
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: Do you think COVID at this concert?

1158
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 8: I think I think I did get it at the concert,

1159
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 8: I think, dude, because like I think, because it was

1160
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 8: like one on like a Thursday or something like that,

1161
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 8: Whinnsday or some ship, and then like a couple of

1162
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 8: days later, I was probably feeling like pretty bad over

1163
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 8: the weekend.

1164
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 17: Man.

1165
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: Wait whatever it was it was yesterday.

1166
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, yesterday. It was a few weeks ago now.

1167
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 8: But I think like like the lingering effect, man, that's

1168
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 8: what it is.

1169
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm.

1170
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: So you were you were doing this giant fire, Yeah,

1171
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: did anything, did anything go wrong? Didn't get hurt.

1172
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 8: No, no one got hurt, but like they had like

1173
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 8: something monster and like that. And then like the next

1174
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 8: day or the same night, fucking Phoenix fire wanted to

1175
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 8: an investigation, like do it a little bonfire? Like, calm

1176
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 8: the fuck down, dude, don't go and put out a

1177
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 8: house fire.

1178
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: Do you come down?

1179
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 11: You're like.

1180
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 4: You said it was out of control and you were scared.

1181
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 4: It doesn't sound like no, it wasn't.

1182
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 8: No, it wasn't that out of control, dude, like it

1183
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 8: kind of got yeah life nah.

1184
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: Well, so tell me about them stopping the concert. How

1185
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: quickly did they say yeah? Because I'm genuinely you know,

1186
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 4: genuinely curious about about this.

1187
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 8: They stopped it, like I don't know they had they

1188
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 8: were playing one song and that they just stopped the

1189
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 8: whole show until they got the fire onunder control.

1190
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I don't so it was a

1191
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: big enough deal that that they had to stop the concert.

1192
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 4: I would argue that they were acting as reasonable venue

1193
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 4: and or band. I think anybody I agree, I mean

1194
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 4: the Yeah, I mean it would be drastically irresponsible for

1195
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 4: them to continue the show while while the present danger

1196
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 4: presents itself.

1197
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Noah, and yeah, you were the

1198
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: one that started the fire.

1199
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 8: No, I no, No, I hadn't started. I helped like

1200
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 8: build it up because like we started throwing like launchers

1201
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 8: and ship. Who's got like the cheapest tickets and stuff? Yeah,

1202
01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 8: like a little cheap best launchers right. Oh no, No,

1203
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 8: we're allowed to bring him into the into the venue

1204
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 8: because like it's like because there's like you like a

1205
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 8: little long.

1206
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: Lawn shares that you brought into the venue and you

1207
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: willing to move through them on the fire.

1208
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, I got some Walmart for like twenty bucks. Yeah,

1209
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 8: they got a walmar f twenty bucks, dude, okay, okay, interesting, Yeah, dude,

1210
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 8: m hm, and you got a qtss voice.

1211
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: Though, I thank you very much. That's very nicer to say, well, yeah,

1212
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: a voice. I think you have a cute voice. I think, uh,

1213
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: I think you have a cut voice. Stress. I think

1214
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: we have pretty cute voices.

1215
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know I do, dude, I know, I know.

1216
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 11: To you.

1217
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: Wait, so the fire department did an investigation, No.

1218
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 8: They wanted to. I saw that on on Twitter.

1219
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 11: I was like, what the hell for?

1220
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 8: Like, calm down, like, no one got hurt, no one

1221
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 8: got burned to live this lintle damn ww match and

1222
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 8: ship like calm down. But it was like big enough

1223
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 8: to like to stop the fire. Like it was like

1224
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 8: it was bingo to stop the show. I mean, and

1225
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 8: like it was just kind of ridiculous.

1226
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 14: Man.

1227
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 4: I would argue that any fire at a show probably

1228
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: warrant this show stopping.

1229
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 8: It's called the control burned.

1230
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: Bro.

1231
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 8: It's like they're doing everything with the with the forest

1232
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 8: fires like that to control burn.

1233
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 4: Okay, you're not going to win this argument about bonfire

1234
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 4: created by concert goers being considered a controlled burn.

1235
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, but we're white man, so like come on, that

1236
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 8: means but.

1237
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: Look Tristan. Yo, Tristan, look, uh, look at the fire

1238
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: investigation department, you know, I mean if you're if you're

1239
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: a department that investigates fires and there's a fire, yeah,

1240
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: I think I think it would make sense to go

1241
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: investigate that ship.

1242
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: And also so the whole controlled burn there is definitely

1243
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: not true. Yeah, I think this was probably fit under

1244
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 4: the category of an uncontrolled burn.

1245
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 8: They like they just like get rushing, like the uh

1246
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 8: the support staff, and like the security are the security

1247
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 8: with the with the fire. I thought it was kind

1248
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 8: of funny though, just to be just like rush into

1249
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 8: the scene and ship well like people still can't.

1250
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Hurt at this concert? Oh no, of course, how do

1251
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: you recover from your coronavirus?

1252
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 8: And it ain't no joke, It's is real. Hey, I

1253
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 8: love you, Floppy, also support you.

1254
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: Also stuck to you.

1255
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a good night, Tristan, any too, man?

1256
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 4: Some some questionable questionable comments by by truth Tristan.

1257
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: There definitely definitely, definitely a solid handful of questionable comments.

1258
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you're a guy sitting at a

1259
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: desk at the fire department and someone texts you like,

1260
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: hey's a fire.

1261
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean and he started out his story saying

1262
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 4: he was scared.

1263
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1264
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 4: The fire was clearly not a controlled fire. Any fire

1265
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 4: that is set off by concert goers warrants the show

1266
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 4: being stopped immediately. And you know, I'm proud of Slipnod

1267
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 4: for seeing that true and stopping the show immediately. Props

1268
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 4: of them and the venue. That is how crowd control

1269
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: should be done.

1270
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: True, true, true. Nothing's more punk rock than safety exactly. Hey, folks,

1271
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: it's Lyle again. I just want to thank Attorney Tom

1272
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: for coming on the stream. That concludes his his portion

1273
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: of the podcast. I'm gonna take a few more calls

1274
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: just on my own here, but if you guys enjoyed

1275
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: Attorney Tom, please go check came out on YouTube at

1276
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: Attorney Tom is his channel. Thank you again to him

1277
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: for coming on, and please go check him out.

1278
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 4: He's a great guy.

1279
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: He makes great content and it was a pleasure to

1280
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: have him on. Okay, back to the calls. Cadville Chad, Hello, Hello,

1281
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: how are you Chad?

1282
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no way.

1283
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: Way, total way, jeez, this is amazing. What do you

1284
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: have to Chad?

1285
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 3: It's cad Cadville.

1286
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, Cadville, Yeah, what's going on with you, Cadville.

1287
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't even know where to start. There's

1288
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: so much I wanted to want to tell you.

1289
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: Interesting you said, there's so much you wanted to tell me. Uh, okay,

1290
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: Well let's start with with with something anything at all

1291
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: in particular.

1292
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 3: Well, what I really want to talk to you about

1293
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: is a relationship that I'm having issues with.

1294
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: And why are you having issues in that relationship?

1295
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: Well, to be honest, it's, uh, this girl, Well, she's

1296
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: my fiancee and we've been actually engaged for about three

1297
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: years now, and I really I'm not sure whether or

1298
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 3: not I want to continue a relationship with her for

1299
01:11:50,840 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: a number of different reasons, one being she has some

1300
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 3: mental issues and I know it's it's hard to deal with.

1301
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: And I don't blame her for her issues as she

1302
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 3: has and she's had a very difficult life and I

1303
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: don't want to put you know, any of her stuff

1304
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: on blast. It's not my story to tell mm hmm.

1305
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: But you know, she it's gone to the point where

1306
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 3: we've been homeless on and off for about pretty much

1307
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: our whole engagement. And you know I wasn't always the

1308
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 3: best to her. You know, I did a lot of

1309
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 3: sucked up things. I honestly probably caused more psychological trauma

1310
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 3: to her. And I really do love her, but it's

1311
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: gotten to the point where, you know, we have looked

1312
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 3: basically at of hotels basically throughout the whole pandemic. On

1313
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 3: and off. She would get us kicked out because of

1314
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: her behavior, you know, And she'll be hospitalized and get

1315
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 3: help for a while, and they'll medicate her and when

1316
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: she's stable, the release her to me, but she'll she

1317
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: won't want to continue their medication and she won't listen

1318
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 3: to their diagnosis, and she basically doesn't want to continue

1319
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: seeking the help. And it's just gotten to the point

1320
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 3: where it's like I've lost a lot financially and a

1321
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: lot of like job opportunities, and I've basically changed my

1322
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 3: whole life around for you know, this girl, And I

1323
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: really do love her, and you know, I don't want

1324
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 3: anything to happen to her, but you know, like I

1325
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: don't think she understands where I'm coming from, like everything

1326
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: that I've sacrificed, and I know she sacrificed a lot too,

1327
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: and you know, I just don't know what to do

1328
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 3: at this point. Like I do love her, and I

1329
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: want her to get better and I want to have

1330
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 3: a life with her, but I don't know if I

1331
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 3: can do it right now. And the thing is that

1332
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 3: you know, she has suicidal tendencies and she doesn't have

1333
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 3: any family. I'm the only person that she knows. She

1334
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: basically moved out, could cross country from North Carolina here

1335
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: to California to be with me, and you know, gave

1336
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 3: up a lot. And I don't want to abandon her,

1337
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: and I do want to have a future with her,

1338
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: but it's gotten really difficult, and right now, I just

1339
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: want to focus on myself and get myself to a

1340
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 3: better position so that I can provide her with a

1341
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 3: better life. But I don't think I can.

1342
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: You said hold on really quickly, by the way, because

1343
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 1: you just said I'm trying to get a sense of

1344
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: where your head is at. Because you just said that.

1345
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: Did you say that you do want to have a

1346
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: future with her or you don't?

1347
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 3: I do, but I'm not sure we want the same

1348
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 3: things and I don't.

1349
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: I don't.

1350
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we can have a future because well,

1351
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: because I want.

1352
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: To say something, I mean, because you just said just

1353
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: now that you want to uh do better for yourself

1354
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 1: so that you can do better for her. That is

1355
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: that correct? Is that you said yes? All right? M

1356
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it sounds like and and and

1357
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: from your words, you've just you've told me that you

1358
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: feel like you have caused her harm you say, and

1359
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: that she has caused you harm. And and really from

1360
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: a lot of what you described, it doesn't sound like

1361
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: this is super sustainable. I mean, I'd like to see

1362
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: you do better for yourself simply so that you can

1363
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: do better for yourself, not so much with with her

1364
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: in mind, because you know your whole thing of well,

1365
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to abandon her because she came all

1366
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: the way out. I mean, that's that's very tough. But

1367
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't feel like you're helping her,

1368
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: then I don't see a reason for you two to

1369
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: continue being together. I mean, nothing that you've really said

1370
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: to me so far has given me any indication that

1371
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: you two should continue to see each other. I mean,

1372
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: it seems like you two have like your own problems

1373
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: that you need to work out on your own, and

1374
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: it sounds like being with each other is making them worse.

1375
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm only making assumptions based off

1376
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: of what you're telling me, But is what do you

1377
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: think about those assumptions I've just made?

1378
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: And to be honest, it's you're right, you know, Like

1379
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 3: and I've told I've explained my situation to a lot

1380
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: of people, even in more in depth, you know, like

1381
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 3: I said, I.

1382
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: Haven't been And what do those people tell you when

1383
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: you explain your situation to them?

1384
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: You know, they kind of basically tell me about the

1385
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 3: same thing, you know, like it that I should probably

1386
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: focus on self.

1387
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: And you know, okay, so what I do.

1388
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: I do want to improve myself for me, it's not

1389
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: just for her, because you know, like, so.

1390
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: You've expressed your situation to me, you've expressed it to

1391
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: it sounds like a bunch of people and they've all

1392
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 1: told you that you should It sounds like step away

1393
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: and improve yourself. And then what I mean, what do

1394
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: you think about that?

1395
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 3: And they're right, And like I said, I've honestly have

1396
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,520
Speaker 3: felt that way for since the beginning of our relationship.

1397
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: To be honest, I even told her that I wasn't

1398
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: really seeking a relationship.

1399
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: So then what the beginning? So then so then what's

1400
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 1: what do you feel like is stopping you?

1401
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1402
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: Now from going off and doing that. Is it is

1403
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: it that you don't want to abandon her as you.

1404
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 3: Say, Yeah, I don't want to abandon her. Like I said,

1405
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 3: she does have suicidal tendencies. The last time I tried

1406
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 3: to leave her, honestly, they she had to go to

1407
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 3: the hospital and be on a psychiatrical because you know,

1408
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 3: she she alms, she tried to kill herself. And how can.

1409
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: I ask you real quick, have you spoken to a

1410
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: real social worker therapist about this situation.

1411
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm working on that at the moment. Like I said,

1412
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 3: I just got into the shelter about a week ago,

1413
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 3: so bright now I'm really trying to focus on myself.

1414
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: She's in the shelter too, but a different one. And honestly,

1415
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: time away has honestly felt good, Like honestly.

1416
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: It sounds good for you to be away from her.

1417
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like honestly, it's like I care about her a lot,

1418
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 3: and I know she goes through a lot, and like

1419
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 3: I feel messed up because sometimes it's like she's calling

1420
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: me because you know, she wants to speak with me

1421
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 3: because she's having a hard time at her shelter, or

1422
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 3: she was having all the time at the hospital. But

1423
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 3: there were times where I'm working or you know, I'm

1424
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 3: just I'm driving to get back to my shelter or

1425
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 3: something like.

1426
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: That, here's here's here's the thing, and and tell me

1427
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: what you think of this. I'm not I'm not telling

1428
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: you to believe anything, but I'd like to hear what

1429
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: you think about this, because, first of all, just totally

1430
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: see a real social worker, therapist, person who's not a

1431
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: gecko about this. There would know more than I do.

1432
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: But my thoughts on something like this from you know,

1433
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: when I've when I've talked to people about it before,

1434
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: is like, if you're afraid of abandoning her, right, but

1435
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: if you are unhappy when you're around her, if you are,

1436
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: if you and you said this in your own words,

1437
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: feel like this relationship is toxic and it's not working

1438
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: for It's not gonna work for either of you. It

1439
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: does not serve you. It does not it does not

1440
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: serve her to continue being with her, because ultimately people

1441
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 1: should be with people who are happy to be around them.

1442
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: So if you're not happy being around her, it doesn't

1443
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: serve her to keep being around her. So just just

1444
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: so that she has someone, you know, because ultimately, what

1445
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: what what we want for her, what we want for

1446
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: you is both you guys, to be with people who

1447
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: you enjoy being around you. That's what I think. And

1448
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: it also just sounds like to me that she needs,

1449
01:21:54,320 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, genuine psychological you know, help that you might

1450
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: not be able to provide. And it's just really it's

1451
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: just really tough. I'm not gonna ptend like I you

1452
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: don't have any remotely any answers to this situation. But

1453
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: I do believe that if you are not enjoying the relationship,

1454
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: it does not help them. It does not help the

1455
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: other person to stay in it, even though on paper

1456
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: maybe it seems like it does. You might not agree

1457
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: with that, but what do you think of it?

1458
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: No, I do agree with that, you know. And it's

1459
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: it's just hard, you know. It's like I said, I

1460
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 3: don't want to like cut her off because I pay

1461
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 3: for her poem and everything, and like I'm encouraging her

1462
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: to look for work and stuff like that because you know,

1463
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 3: she needs to be self. I can't provide everything for her,

1464
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 3: you know, like I would have a life together with her,

1465
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 3: and you know, she doesn't want to be like on

1466
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 3: disability or anything like that. And you know she has

1467
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: worked throughout our relationship too. You know, it's not like

1468
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 3: I've been the only provider. It's just been difficult with

1469
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 3: the pandemic. And it's not like I'm not happy with her,

1470
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: you know all the time. You know, like I do

1471
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: love her and we have a lot of fun, you know,

1472
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 3: but there's just times where she's causing a lot of stress.

1473
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 3: Like I said, thout the pandemic, I was just trying

1474
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 3: to keep us basically, you know, off the streets. And

1475
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: there was multiple times where we were just asked to

1476
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 3: leave because she was making guests uncomfortable and things like that.

1477
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: And listen, what do you say Your name.

1478
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 11: Was tad Vail.

1479
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: You can call me Veil Bail, Veil Veil. That's a

1480
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 1: cool name, Like yeah, like it like a party up

1481
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: with that just now?

1482
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, if I kind of use that for like

1483
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 3: a character. I used to write stories in high school

1484
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: and it was a character and it's like a it's

1485
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 3: like a play on words. It's like supposed to be

1486
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,440
Speaker 3: like a veil between worlds.

1487
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: Well, listen, you know, before we go, I'm just gonna

1488
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: say I think I can tell that you care very

1489
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: much about this person. Which is nice. It's good to care.

1490
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 1: I I hope that you find a legitimate mental health

1491
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: counselor to go through this issue with you. And look, man,

1492
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for her, rooting for

1493
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: the good of humanity, and I I I appreciate you

1494
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: sharing with us and I hope you can find and

1495
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: some help.

1496
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: Thank you, man, I really appreciate it. Thank you for listening,

1497
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 3: and I want to thank everyone else for listening to absolutely.

1498
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 3: I just want to say, Man, I love your show.

1499
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: I love what you do. Believe it or not, it

1500
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 3: does help a lot of people. It does help me

1501
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 3: even just listening. You know. I found you during the pandemic.

1502
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 3: I listened to all your podcasts every time they come out, man,

1503
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 3: and I just want to say what you do is

1504
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 3: it's really helpful. You're not a real therapist, and I

1505
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 3: know it's like I do need to see some help,

1506
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 3: and there's other people that do need to seek help,

1507
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 3: but you are also you know, a help. You know,

1508
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: there's like a lot of people that call that you

1509
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: know have stories or maybe are some embarrassed to share

1510
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 3: some things with, you know, like their general family or

1511
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 3: people that you know they they're just scared, so, you know,

1512
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 3: and it's the Internet and there's a lot of we're

1513
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 3: out there and like people like you, and I just

1514
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: want to say that that's amazing.

1515
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, val Man. I appreciate that. I

1516
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: wish you good luck and thank you. Thank you for sharing,

1517
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for having me.

1518
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: You have a wonderful night you as well.

1519
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: Vail oh fail forever.

1520
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 3: Aw from Faulkner.

1521
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: Faulkner. How old are you?

1522
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 3: Yahouh thirty one?

1523
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: Fulk nor fulk nor Fulkner. Yeah, sir, fucker's anything in

1524
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: particular you want to talk about?

1525
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 17: Uh, yeah, I kind of got a crazy situation. Well,

1526
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 17: I've been in a long term relationship. We've been together

1527
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 17: like ten years. You got four kids together now for

1528
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 17: girls to be sad, beautiful and actually the last we've

1529
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 17: worked together for the whole relationship then too, except for

1530
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 17: the last two years.

1531
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: And it's been.

1532
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 17: Last two years actually been probably the better years of

1533
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 17: the relationship. That can be due to a number of things.

1534
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 17: I've recently got a sober and with that, you know,

1535
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,600
Speaker 17: comes to all kinds of better stuff. M It's the

1536
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 17: first time I've been able to hold a house down

1537
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 17: by myself for the whole ten years. Who've been together?

1538
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Beautiful and uh.

1539
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 17: I just after doing this for two years. I don't know,

1540
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 17: I see it. I see it hard moving back together,

1541
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 17: like I don't I don't know. Every time I go

1542
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 17: spend the weekend over, he comes over here. I don't

1543
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 17: know if it's because of the time has spent apart,

1544
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 17: anything changed, like you know, sub consciously.

1545
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: Interesting. So so wait a minute, let me, let me,

1546
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: let me kind of get this straight here. So you

1547
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: are in a long term relationship about ten years, you

1548
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: got four kids together. Yeah, and you used to live together,

1549
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: but now you do not, but you're still together as

1550
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: so you used to live So let me just get

1551
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: this straight. You used to live together. Why did you

1552
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: stop living together?

1553
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 17: It just got pretty roughly for a while. Consent couldn't

1554
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 17: seem to get along.

1555
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: For anything interesting, so she moved out.

1556
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 17: Yeah, pretty much.

1557
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what happened to the kids?

1558
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 17: Okay? All over there, I work like the eighty hours

1559
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 17: a week, so all.

1560
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 1: Right, so you're working eighty hours a week, but you're

1561
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 1: financially supporting the kids, and are you financially supporting her

1562
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: as well?

1563
01:28:59,600 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1564
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I help, Okay, okay, And and you guys are still together.

1565
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: So she moved out, but she didn't break up with you.

1566
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 10: No, that.

1567
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 17: Only took like too much. We did put up there

1568
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 17: for a minute, but that was an ongoing thing too,

1569
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 17: and we've actually that has come doing it and we

1570
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 17: haven't did the whole breakup, back together, break that back

1571
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 17: to other thing.

1572
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're back together last year?

1573
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 11: Yes?

1574
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: And yeah, all right, so you're back together. Are you

1575
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: living alone?

1576
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1577
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 14: We both are.

1578
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 17: I mean she's got the kids, but I was by myself.

1579
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: He was by herself.

1580
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 17: And I mean that is the that is the the endgame,

1581
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:47,520
Speaker 17: that the goal is to live back together at some point.

1582
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 17: But like I said, going back over there just constantly hacktic.

1583
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 17: She's always you know, arguing with the kids, going with

1584
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 17: the kids.

1585
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: This is a very interesting such relation here because okay,

1586
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: well let me ask you, do you do you do

1587
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: you like your girlfriends? You enjoy being around there?

1588
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 12: I do?

1589
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Okay? And sounds like you mean that. Do you do

1590
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: you like your children? Do you do you enjoy being

1591
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: around them?

1592
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 14: Unconditionally?

1593
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 1: Well unconditionally? I mean I don't know is it unconditionally

1594
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: because you sound like you know, if if you were

1595
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: to live together like.

1596
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 3: That.

1597
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like under the condition of you

1598
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: guys living together, your your like I don't know. I

1599
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 1: don't know if is unhappy the word.

1600
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 17: Uh no, not not not necessarily, but I mean, I'm

1601
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 17: there there will be conditions. I guess there's just had

1602
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 17: to be a lot of changes.

1603
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: I just can't what kind of changes.

1604
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 14: And I guess she could have wanted to deal with

1605
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 14: deal with kids in a more calmer way, like, can't

1606
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 14: resort to yelling at them. You know, they do the

1607
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 14: same thing.

1608
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 17: The kids are kids, They're gonna yell and you know,

1609
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 17: be crazy. But she can't resort to doing the same thing.

1610
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,799
Speaker 1: Is she full? So is it is in an arrangement

1611
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: where like you're working full time and she's taking care

1612
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: of the kids. Yeah, and not working Okay, interesting mm hmmm.

1613
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Do you have plans to move back in together?

1614
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 17: Yep, that's that's the goal hopefully.

1615
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: All these things that you're telling her about, like you know,

1616
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: you shouldn't yell to kids, and you know, I wish

1617
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: you would be calmer when you're dealing with the kids.

1618
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: This is all stuff you've told her before. Yeah, And

1619
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: what does she say?

1620
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 17: She you know she kind of realizes it, but I

1621
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 17: think it's just like a rombo type, you like, because

1622
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 17: the kids are all still young.

1623
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 11: They're all understand so two.

1624
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 17: Of them, well one's just actually too much.

1625
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 14: Old now, so two of them are around constantly. One

1626
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 14: actually just got into preschool. So it can be rough,

1627
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 14: you know, you know, not having a job being around

1628
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 14: young kids like that all day.

1629
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 17: I understand completely.

1630
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that sounds tough. I mean, well, let

1631
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: me ask you an, I think have you gone to

1632
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 1: any sort of counseling or anything like that?

1633
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 14: No, not really, that's one thing we haven't done.

1634
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: I haven't because because I mean, this situation seems like

1635
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: it's one where something like that would would work, right,

1636
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: because I'm getting the sense from both you and your

1637
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: your partner that like you both genuinely want to make it,

1638
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: to make it work, but you have apprehensions about you know,

1639
01:32:54,560 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: little particular things. Yeah, so I think that could be

1640
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: that could be helpful to do some sort of counseling.

1641
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 14: That probably would and like, we don't know that I

1642
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 14: think about it.

1643
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 17: We've never tried it since I've been sober.

1644
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 14: You know what I mean, So how long have you

1645
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 14: been so before, especially like a year.

1646
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: A year okay, good, good good. So I mean, look, dude,

1647
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: like the will, the will is there, I hear it,

1648
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: and you like, you want to be with your kids,

1649
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: you want to be with with your partner, you want

1650
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 1: to make it work, you want to say, you want

1651
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to do it all. So I mean, I mean that's

1652
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 1: the most important thing I think, you know, is that

1653
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: you still use that you have that that will and uh,

1654
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm hoping that the will is strong enough that,

1655
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes time to you know, move

1656
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: back in with your family. Uh you know, I hope

1657
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: that that will is alive enough to like, you know,

1658
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 1: push you to to try to make it work.

1659
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 14: Well, I mean I can't prove and I've got to

1660
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 14: you know, deal with it as well, help her with

1661
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 14: the kids. Yeah.

1662
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, it's it's it's tough, right you're

1663
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: because you know she I it seems to me like

1664
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: you guys have a I mean again, I don't know

1665
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: the intricacies of your relationship, but it seems to me

1666
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: like you guys have a fairish agreement where you know,

1667
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're working eighty hours a week and

1668
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: she's also working, you know, around the clock taking care

1669
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: of the kids. I mean, that's that's that's tough for

1670
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: both of you guys, you know, right, it seems like

1671
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: you both are pretty respectful of each other's, you know,

1672
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: of each other's sort of respective jobs, you know, of

1673
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: hers being you know, taking care of the kids and

1674
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: yours being you know, providing. Would you would you say

1675
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:41,839
Speaker 1: that's accurate?

1676
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I mean that's like the thing. You know,

1677
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 14: he's working in eighty hours a week, a job like

1678
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 14: them was going to you know, being a few time

1679
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 14: on it.

1680
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1681
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 13: More.

1682
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,839
Speaker 1: Well listen, what did you say? Your name was Andrew?

1683
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 1: And Andrew? Well Andrew again. Good luck to you man,

1684
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: congratulations on being a year sober. Again. I hear you know.

1685
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 1: I don't know you, man, but you know, I get

1686
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: the idea that you want to make this work, and

1687
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: I think you will. I think you will because I

1688
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Just hear it in your voice

1689
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: that that you have that will to make it work.

1690
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: And is there anything else that you want to say

1691
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: before before we head off?

1692
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 3: Yuah no, just hell yeah, beautiful.

1693
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: You keep talking as well, man. Thank you. Yep, I

1694
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: like that guy.

1695
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 5: All from Jason Wong.

1696
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: Jason Wong Yep, Hey, hey, what are you doing.

1697
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 12: Chilling?

1698
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 16: I'm chilling at home.

1699
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: That's cool. That's kind of what I'm doing too.

1700
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,839
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

1701
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 1: What's crazy about it?

1702
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 16: No, dude, that I mean, I can't believe I'm actually

1703
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 16: talking to you.

1704
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, mathematically it actually makes sense that you're talking

1705
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: to me because of all the people calling in, one

1706
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: of them had to make it through the phone line. Yeah,

1707
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: but so mathematically perfect, like.

1708
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 16: One hundred and one hundred times almost over.

1709
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular that you wanted to talk about?

1710
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1711
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 3: Actually I do, hit Man.

1712
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 16: Well, you see, I recently I'm really into tattoos and

1713
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 16: I recently got like a really big, really visible tattoo

1714
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 16: on my arm and I love it. But why do

1715
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 16: I get annoyed when people ask me the same questions

1716
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 16: about it, like over and over again.

1717
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 1: Like.

1718
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 16: Why is that?

1719
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 3: Like?

1720
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 16: Why does it annoy me so much?

1721
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: What questions do they ask you?

1722
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 16: Well, the first one is always like, I never get

1723
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 16: annoyed when people tell me like they like it, that's

1724
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 16: always cool. I always appreciate that. But then they always

1725
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 16: ask me like how much does it like cost? Which

1726
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 16: I never tell them.

1727
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 8: That's it's expensive, That's why I say.

1728
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 16: And then they always ask me like how much it hurts?

1729
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 10: And then.

1730
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1731
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 16: I just feel like a robot answering the same question

1732
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 16: almost like every day.

1733
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 1: Why did you get the tattoo? You said, you're just

1734
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: really tattoos.

1735
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean my friends, my friends and I are

1736
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 16: all like really into tattoos. So I've been saving on

1737
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 16: money for a while to get it, so I wanted

1738
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 16: to get it, and I just just got it.

1739
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: And does it bother you anytime anyone asks you any

1740
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: questions about your tattoos or just like certain a certain

1741
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: specific handful of questions bother you.

1742
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:31,799
Speaker 16: I don't know, because some days I will answer them

1743
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 16: like completely fine. Some days and they'll be like, man,

1744
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 16: these people are asking me the same questions all the time.

1745
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hmm. Yeah, and my mom had so you

1746
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,799
Speaker 1: say the I'm sorry, what did you just say?

1747
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 16: And my mom hates it too.

1748
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Your mom hates it. So you said, some days you

1749
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: don't mind answering these questions, but then some days you do.

1750
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 16: Maybe it don't depending on my mood.

1751
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: So do you say it's dependent on your mood?

1752
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 4: Maybe tell me, tell me tell.

1753
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: Me about the mood you're in when you don't like

1754
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: answering these questions.

1755
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,799
Speaker 16: Oh, when I'm I don't know, like when I'm focused.

1756
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 16: Usually it's like usually at school, and usually like when

1757
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 16: I'm when I'm focused, it alway seems like when I'm focused,

1758
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 16: people people.

1759
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 12: Bother me, what are you?

1760
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: What are you focusing on?

1761
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 8: There are a lot of school work.

1762
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 16: I'm an architecture major, so I gotta be like on

1763
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 16: my my grind a lot.

1764
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,879
Speaker 1: Okay, but so you know, actually, let's deflect away from

1765
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 1: the negative here. I'm kind of curious you say that

1766
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: you have some moods where you don't mind when people

1767
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 1: are asking you these questions. What do you feel like? What?

1768
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 4: What? Tell me?

1769
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: Tell me how you feel in these moments where people

1770
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: ask you these questions and they just roll off your

1771
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: back and you're like, oh yeah, maybe you maybe you

1772
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: even take maybe maybe there are even some moods that

1773
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: you're in where you take delight in answering these questions.

1774
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: What are what are those moods?

1775
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 16: Like, that's a deep question.

1776
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 14: I don't know.

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01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 16: Usually when I'm like at work, I'm a I'm a

1778
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 16: bartender also, so it's like it's nice. A lot of

1779
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 16: old women like it. You get a lot of tips

1780
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 16: from that.

1781
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 1: Mm hm. So you enjoy it as a way of, uh,

1782
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you are feeling in a sociable mood.

1783
01:40:54,760 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: They function as a way to bring bring people all

1784
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: to socialize with you. Is that accurate? I guess.

1785
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 16: But it's not like I'm not like one of those

1786
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 16: people who like in my tatchooes or like my personality trait,

1787
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 16: you know, it's like I just got them because I

1788
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 16: like them and I appreciate them.

1789
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 8: But people I don't know.

1790
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 16: I guess it's I guess maybe it's just the way,

1791
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 16: like maybe it's just the way people ask me.

1792
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 1: The way they are what do you what do you?

1793
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: What do you have to say about the way that

1794
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: they ask you, because.

1795
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 16: You can always tell, in my opinion, when they ask me,

1796
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 16: it's like they always ask me, you know, like the

1797
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 16: basic questions, and they ask you like what do your

1798
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 16: parents think about it?

1799
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 13: And that's like, do you have a question?

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01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 16: Always makes me feel weird.

1801
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: But do you detect that there is some kind of

1802
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: shaming on their part in that question in the tone

1803
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: of voice of that question, Yeah, okay, see okay? And

1804
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: how much of that, would you say, is the reason

1805
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: why you don't like getting these questions?

1806
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1807
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 16: I haven't really thought about it that much.

1808
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad we're doing that now. I'm glad we're

1809
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 1: thinking about it because I learned this concept from a

1810
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 1: YouTube video. There's a youth fucking YouTube channel. I think

1811
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: it's called Charisma and Command. I was watching one of

1812
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:46,759
Speaker 1: their videos. Learned about this beautiful concept that I'm trying

1813
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,759
Speaker 1: to incorporate more in my life. Uh, it's called reading

1814
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:55,879
Speaker 1: positive intent. So, like, if someone asks you a question

1815
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: about your tattoo and you think maybe they're like, there's

1816
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: there's some like a judgy overtone to it, you know,

1817
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to accept that as you don't have

1818
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: to interpret it that way even if and you don't

1819
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: know if that was their intention. You have really kind

1820
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: of no way of knowing if that was their intention.

1821
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: And regardless of whether or not that was their intention,

1822
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: you don't have to interpret it with their intention in mine.

1823
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: You can just interpret it as them having whatever the

1824
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 1: most genuine intent possible is. Right, So, if someone asked

1825
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 1: you that question, like what do your parents think of

1826
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: your tattoos? And maybe you think that they're doing it

1827
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 1: in a shameful way. I mean, you could interpret it

1828
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: in any way you desire. You can interpret it as, oh,

1829
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: they're just genuinely curious, or oh they're just trying to

1830
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: make conversation with me, or maybe they're genuinely concerned, or

1831
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's literally any number of positive ways

1832
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: you could spin it. And then that's kind of your choice,

1833
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 1: right of, like how you want to interpret that question,

1834
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 1: And so if it's up to you, if it's your choice,

1835
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, it would make the most sense if you

1836
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 1: try to interpret those questions in whatever way makes you

1837
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: the least annoyed, So that way you get to spend

1838
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 1: less time annoyed, and then you'll probably respond to them

1839
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 1: a little bit more like positive because because you're interpreting

1840
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: them as approaching you positively, and then maybe that'll make

1841
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: them approach you positively even more. Does any of that

1842
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 1: make any sense?

1843
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1844
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 16: That was pretty Uh, it's pretty crazy think about.

1845
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, you know, I mean, next time someone

1846
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: asks you something about your tattoos, you know, regardless of

1847
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: even if it's like so glaringly obvious, and I don't

1848
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: assume it always is, but even if it is glaringly

1849
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: obvious that they are trying to do so in some

1850
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: hostile way, just try interpreting it positively and see what happens,

1851
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: See how they react, see how you feel, you know,

1852
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 1: if you can.

1853
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 8: Hm, that's all I to think about.

1854
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you want to talk about

1855
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: or say to the people of the internet before we go?

1856
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 16: Everybody really wants to know what it is. Seems like

1857
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,600
Speaker 16: it it's just a full It's basically just like a

1858
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 16: full Japanese sleeve on my arm. It's like just a

1859
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 16: bunch of different Asian shit. I guess.

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01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Sounds pretty, but.

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01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's seems like really like dark and black. So

1862
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 16: that's why people like ask a lot of questions about it.

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01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: Would you say, name was Jason? Jason Gay? Bless you,

1864
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: thank you for calling.

1865
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 2: Thank The rep Kid goes on the line taking your

1866
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 2: phone calls every night. The Rep Kid goes doing his

1867
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: eye he's teaching you loud the liver of your life.

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01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 2: But he's not really an expert.