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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson And it is a lovely Monday

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Speaker 1: here in Pittsburgh. Steelers Rookie mini camp is over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we won't see.

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Speaker 1: The team back on the field now for a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. And of course we're still getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the fallout from the George Pickens trade. And

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Speaker 1: I just want to be perfectly clear about one thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I thank you, And I've been pretty consistent with our

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Speaker 1: messaging on George Pickens throughout the process. We were both

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Speaker 1: disappointed in some of his behavior last year in the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we ripped said behavior. When said behavior, the EyeBlack and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, it was not okay. Nobody ever said

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Speaker 1: that was okay here. We didn't try to sugarcoat that.

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Speaker 3: Pretty dumb, really, yeah, right, I think.

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Speaker 1: We've both been pretty clear on the trade. The trade itself, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, it happened. Something else has to happen here.

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Speaker 1: If something else doesn't happen if they don't sign another receiver.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even saying before training camp. If they don't

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Speaker 1: sign another if they don't have another receiver on the

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Speaker 1: roster before the start of the regular season, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, of note not just Bean Robert Woods in

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Speaker 3: this stage.

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Speaker 1: There has to be some kind of Pickings replacement there.

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Speaker 3: Per agree, And I'll also give him credit. I think

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Speaker 3: he came a long way as a player this year too,

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Speaker 3: with the route running and his versatility.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's ever after the catch. You know, It's never been

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Speaker 1: a situation where George Pickens isn't a good football player

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's a bad scheme fit either or here.

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Speaker 3: But I also think some of his over the middle

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Speaker 3: and everyone's would be like, well, they don't throw over

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Speaker 3: lot of inbreaking routes. Is as far along as Pickings

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Speaker 3: he's not catching deep digs over the middle, and he's

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Speaker 3: his effort on those were pretty poor, to be honest

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Speaker 1: Think about the one he dropped in a regular season

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's a problem. Now you're not a better

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Speaker 3: team on game day without him, There's no at all.

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Speaker 3: It would be silly to do so, right, but a

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Speaker 3: third round pick is a decent compensation. Now, in the

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Speaker 3: third round, you probably won't get someone as talented as him.

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Speaker 3: It's not a one for one.

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Speaker 1: But it allows you to draft somebody maybe in the

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Speaker 3: You have options, right, I mean, you're very fluid with

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Speaker 3: your on draft day. You're fluid with trades. You know,

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Speaker 3: you have a lot of chips in the bank to

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Speaker 3: do something with. Now, to ignore that there's some character

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Speaker 3: personality stuff with Pickens is wrong. I mean there is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he rubs people the wrong way. He's hard

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Speaker 3: I am. I've never met him in my life. But

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Speaker 3: I trust people to say that he's a distraction or

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Speaker 3: isn't always best for the team, you know, and if

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Speaker 3: that's the case, we saw that with Antonio Brown, we

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Speaker 3: kind of saw that with Deontay Johnson, Claypool, Juju. None

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Speaker 3: of those guys went on to do great things Postealers,

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Speaker 3: and that's a pretty strong track record at that position.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know necessarily that George was quote

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Speaker 3: Right, which is on the horizon. I mean everyone knows

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Speaker 3: It's like a sure Roth Sanders conversation, you know, like

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Speaker 3: when's it worth it? When's it not? You know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe I'm breaking any news here that on

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Speaker 1: No, the idea and I heard it put out there

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Speaker 3: They could if they wanted, they could they I don't

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Speaker 3: fact that the trade happened just affirms that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it shows you that that was the case.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have traded him a third round pick if

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Speaker 3: you were going to be here the next five years.

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Speaker 1: But we're not kicking a guy going out the door. No,

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Speaker 1: And reading through some of the comments on our YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: That was never the case we were when when George

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Speaker 1: Pickens made a mistakes, I said he played the worst

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Speaker 1: me to say he played the worst game of his

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Speaker 1: Now cut him.

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Speaker 3: I just said I thought he came along as a player,

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Speaker 3: he is valuable, but they know those things too. And

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Speaker 3: the day they traded for Metcalf is when they covered

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Speaker 3: be critical if they're not. You know, again, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: Are the idea that they didn't do anything at all

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams wasn't the answer, right.

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Speaker 3: I would argue they didn't do enough, or they didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh No, to address it.

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Speaker 3: Now, anyone who listens to the Drive or doesn't live

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Speaker 3: for two years. Get all the different names, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think any of that was made up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, think they was close to deals happening several times

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Speaker 3: that didn't happen. Now, I think they probably learned their

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if it's just signing a Mary Cooper,

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Speaker 1: You know, the idea that he's a player in decline,

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Speaker 1: I'm just so he's a player in decline. This is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a really good career. He's been traded

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Speaker 3: for good stuff too. Yeah. I always think that it was.

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Speaker 1: His age twenty eight season, age twenty nine season. Overall,

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Speaker 3: See last year is so weird. That's why I don't

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Speaker 1: But this idea that he's clearly in decline, like is he?

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Speaker 3: I worry that the beginning of the decline has just

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Speaker 3: He's a former like fifth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: He only he played fourteen games last year and had

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Speaker 3: Harmon really laid this out. Who's super into receivers, and

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Speaker 1: No, and that nobody does. Nobody moves like a twenty

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Speaker 1: And there there. Again, there are still options out there,

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Speaker 3: Black has long arm. It looks good. I knew that,

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale Lollie. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt FTN Fantasy has come out

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Speaker 1: We'll get everything across these And I understand fans are

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Speaker 3: That's gonna watch every snap that's available, like I do,

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna get through these, we gotta get going,

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Speaker 3: Let's roll. I guess we got thirty two, but the

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Speaker 3: But that's just because you think draft picks are good.

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Speaker 3: counting on this guy to take a huge step and

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Speaker 3: if he doesn't, ooh, you know, we got a problem.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one is the Texans, Cam Robinson, Titus Howard at Guard,

440
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Speaker 1: Jarrett Patterson, Juice Shrugs, Blake Fisher.

441
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: They have a lot of moving parts. I don't know

442
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Speaker 3: what their five will be on opening day.

443
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Speaker 1: They also very ont the earth around lake and Tomlinson

444
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: that a game, so they got they just want change.

445
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: Different guys are that they can mix in.

446
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Speaker 3: But but Hunsel and Mason have been their best guys

447
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: and they both got dumped.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah, at thirty the Cleveland Browns.

449
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: I might even have them lower. I think they're lower

450
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Speaker 3: than thirty. I'd take the Bengals over the Browns Day one.

451
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Speaker 1: Jones, Joel Batonio, Ethan posk Wyatt, Teller, j At Conklin.

452
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: On paper that looks better.

453
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Speaker 3: It looks okay.

454
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: If this were four years ago.

455
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Speaker 3: Then it's top five.

456
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

457
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: And that's what makes me crazy about their draft is

458
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: when you were good is when these guys were good

459
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: and you drafted none of them. And they also brought

460
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Speaker 3: in Tavin Jenks Jenkins, who's been a pretty good player

461
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: now that he's a guard. But both guards, Jenkins and

462
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Speaker 3: post Sick are all free agents after this year. And

463
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: Conklin's hanging on for dear life and you didn't draft

464
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: on offensive lineman. It makes my brain hurt.

465
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Speaker 1: Twenty nine is the Cowboys.

466
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Speaker 3: I don't just agree with that at all because I

467
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Speaker 3: think the interior is going to be awesome.

468
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Speaker 1: Tyler Geiton, Tyler Smith, Cooper b B Tyler Booker, Terrence Steele.

469
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Speaker 1: I think the tackles are pretty weak.

470
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Speaker 3: Though that they are, and Geidon needs is another one

471
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Speaker 3: of these first rounders. It needs to prove.

472
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Speaker 1: I thank you, second highest penalized player in the league,

473
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Speaker 1: not just not just second highest penalized player.

474
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Speaker 3: In the league last year, and that's worrisome. They signed

475
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Speaker 3: and he missed some games. They signed Steel to a

476
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Speaker 3: nice contract and they should be regretting that. But the

477
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Speaker 3: interior could be awesome.

478
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Speaker 1: Uh, twenty eight is the Seahawks Charles Cross, Gray Zabel Olowa,

479
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Speaker 1: Tom to Me, Teamy, Anthony Bradford, and Abraham Lucas.

480
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: It's really still cross in Zabel and the other guys.

481
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Speaker 1: Are twenty seven. This might surprise some people. The Kansas

482
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Speaker 1: City Chiefs.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a little too low. But

484
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: there's a lot of moving parts right now.

485
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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. So it's Jayala Moore who's a

486
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Speaker 1: part time player in San Francisco.

487
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Speaker 3: Right, and he's vastly overpaid at guard.

488
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Speaker 1: Kingsley Sue Mattaiah.

489
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Speaker 3: Who's the tackle that was a failures to tackle lot.

490
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Speaker 1: I don't see him playing guard.

491
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Speaker 3: That's the thing. That's that's why so many moving parts.

492
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Speaker 1: Creed, Humphrey, Trey Smith, Joan Taylor. Right, so that right

493
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: is making a ton of money, great center guard. Okay,

494
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: I sart. You're saying Jean Taylor's bad.

495
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: He's bad.

496
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Speaker 1: He is bad at football.

497
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Speaker 3: Now they had a first round pick, which that's the

498
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Speaker 3: big wild card. Yeah, Simmons. See, like I think the

499
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: plan is, let's pieces together for this year, get rid

500
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Speaker 3: of Taylor after this year because he's not worth the money. Yeah,

501
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: can more go to right tackle next year and Simmons

502
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Speaker 3: is your left tackle.

503
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Speaker 1: But this year is going to be still short of guard.

504
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: That's is a sumant to you. You know me right

505
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: who knows? I mean right now is a lot of

506
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Speaker 3: balls in the year.

507
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Speaker 1: I don't see him being a guard.

508
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't play that way. No.

509
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: At twenty six to Miami Dolphins. That's Patrick Paul, James Daniels,

510
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer, Jonas Ivnia, and Austin Jackson.

511
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Speaker 3: That's another one I thought was should be lower.

512
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: It's twenty six. I know how much lower can they be.

513
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: They lost their best guy, I understand, but at.

514
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Speaker 3: Least they added two guards. Yeah, I give them credit

515
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Speaker 3: for actually realizing their weaknesses.

516
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Speaker 1: Twenty five is the Giants. Andrew Thomas, John Runyon, John

517
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Speaker 1: Michael Schmidt's, Greg Van Roten, Jermaine Illuminar.

518
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: They have some decent depth pieces too. I mean, like

519
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: Neil was a bust, but he's a backup. Mabou. They

520
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: gotta keep Thomas healthy. The other guys are all just

521
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: average starters.

522
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty four is the Saints. Calvin Banks, Dylan Raduns,

523
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: Eric McCoy, Caesar Ruiz Talisi, Fluagga, a lot of names there.

524
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: McCoy's a good center and Hiley.

525
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of highly drafted guys, but I.

526
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Speaker 3: Mean this is a Charger Steeler. I mean, you go

527
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: back to back tackles, it should pay off, but maybe

528
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: not in year one.

529
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Speaker 1: And even like Dunce and Trevor Penning were both penning

530
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Speaker 1: things higher drafts, they just haven't worked.

531
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Speaker 3: Out lot good right, Yeah, but at least for Wagga

532
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: gets to go to the right side. Now, Yeah, maybe

533
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Speaker 3: have a pair of tackles.

534
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Speaker 1: Still haven't got into the Steelership by the way, now

535
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Speaker 1: you're a little wait yet. Twenty three is a forty

536
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Speaker 1: nine Ers. Trent Williams, Bren bartch Jacob Brendle, Dominic Pooney,

537
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Speaker 1: Colt mckivitt's.

538
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Speaker 3: Strangely, they didn't add anything and they lost a few

539
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: not great players. Yeah, BB's are real fine. Trent Williams

540
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: is still awesome, but old a lot of it's just

541
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Speaker 3: trusting the game. I mean, on paper, that's not a

542
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Speaker 3: very good group.

543
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Speaker 1: No. Twenty two is the Patriots, which would be a

544
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Speaker 1: huge step forward.

545
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Speaker 3: They might have been thirty two last.

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Campbell, Cole Strange, Garrett Bradbury, Michael one one

547
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: who and Morgan Moses.

548
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: So I think they have five real starters now, yeah,

549
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 3: and a couple of death pieces of you know, they

550
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Speaker 3: drafted the center from Georgia. You know, there's some guys

551
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Speaker 3: that could turn into something.

552
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Speaker 1: Twenty one again, this is a big step forward for them,

553
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: the Titans Massive.

554
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 3: They have five starters now.

555
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: Dan Moore, Pete Skeronsky, Lloyd Kushienberry, Kevin Zeitler, j C.

556
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Speaker 3: Latham, Hm. I mean all right, yeah, yeah, from where

557
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: they've been. That's Rome wasn't built in today. You got

558
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: to overspend a little bit to do it.

559
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Speaker 1: Twenty is Jacksonville Walker, Little Ezra Cleveland, Robert Hainsey, Patrick McCarry,

560
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Speaker 1: Anton Harrison.

561
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Speaker 3: I think Milam the Wu Kidd'll factor in there somewhere.

562
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: There's no stars in the group though, that's for sure. Yeah.

563
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: They might be lower for my on my list too.

564
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Speaker 1: Nineteen is the race Colton Miller, Jordan Meredith, Jackson, Powers, Johnson,

565
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: Dylan Parham, DJ Glaize.

566
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 3: DJ Glay's played pretty well as the season went on.

567
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: Is like project third round type, and then they drafted

568
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: two project third round types pure tackles this year, including

569
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Speaker 3: Grant from William and Mary so they're in decent shape.

570
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: At eighteen are the Commanders Laramie Tunsell, Brandon Coleman, Tyler Biadis,

571
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: Sam Cosmey and Josh Connerley Jr.

572
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: Which really looks good on paper now like that look

573
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: could be five real good starters. But we don't know

574
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Speaker 3: about connor Ly, That's what I say. But conn I

575
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: mean Connorly's never played right. He's not very strong. He

576
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: kind of protod these a left tackle stylistically. I thought

577
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Speaker 3: he'd be for next year. You know.

578
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Speaker 1: At seventeen are the Colts Bernard Raymond, Quentin Nelson, Tanner Bordolini,

579
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Matt gone Cleaves and Braden Smith.

580
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: Center to right tackle. Is he lost the starting center

581
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: in a right guard? Not superstars.

582
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: There were people last year. And when I say people,

583
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: there were organizations. There were publications that had Tanner Bordolini

584
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: as their center, their best center, rookie center last year.

585
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you mean after the season. Yes, I mean

586
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: he was okay, but that was an awesome center. I

587
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: think they were smoking dope. I said, he's not even

588
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: the top three. I mean there's like six seven starting

589
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: centers out of that class.

590
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fine for what he was right, but

591
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: let's not pretend that he was better than the other

592
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: guys might be better. Yeah, the kid and Tampa was better.

593
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the guys that were drafted high.

594
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sixteen is the Packers. Rashid Wallace or Rashid Walker.

595
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: I should see Rashid Wallace playing left tackle. Wow, awesome,

596
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: he has the right temperament. Rashid Walker, Aaron Banks, Elkton Jenkins,

597
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Sean Ryan, Zach Tom. They're moving Jenkins the center.

598
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: I think so because Myers left. I think he retired.

599
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: I forget what happened to Myers. Yeah, but they have

600
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: a second round pick waiting in the wings. The big kid,

601
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: dot NC said belt Belton and last year's first round

602
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: pick isn't projected as a starter, which I never understood.

603
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: The big Yeah, but at least there's two high upside

604
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: dudes on the bench.

605
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: Fifteen is the Cardinals. Paris Johnson, Evan Brown, Hija Frohl,

606
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams, and Jonah Williams.

607
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: I think Paris Johnson is gonna be one of the

608
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: next great offensive tackles, you know, like Pro Bowl year

609
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: after year. Fro Hold, no one knows any clue who

610
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: he is, but he's good. They're they're they're missing a guard.

611
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: They're like, have four good guys.

612
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: At fourteen, still no Steelers are the Jets, although for Shano,

613
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: John Simpson, Joe Tipman, Elijah Vera Tucker and armand Membo.

614
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: It has a lot of Steeler similarities. I mean there's

615
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: high picks there, there's youth, back to back tackles in

616
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: the first rounds for Shan, who now gets to go

617
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: to his natural left spot. Membo was my favorite o' lineman.

618
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Tipman's turning into a decent player. They need Vera Tucker

619
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: to stay healthy. Could be higher.

620
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: At thirteen, we finally get to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

621
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he said some good things about.

622
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Them, Roderck Jones, Isaac sam Olwo, Zach Frasier, Mace McCormick,

623
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: Troy Filtano, with the key depth being Spencer Anderson, Calvin

624
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: Anderson and Max Sharping.

625
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: Now I would love to add one more key depth piece.

626
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's possible. It's not like the

627
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: receiver conversation where here's ten names, which one do you like? Yeah?

628
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: You see what's starting out there for some team.

629
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, those guys aren't available.

630
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: No one's trading their key depth at the moment. But

631
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: like you said, I mean a huge key is what

632
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: do you get out of Roderick Jones?

633
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? And as if the final note these on this

634
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: group is the group could dominate as soon as twenty

635
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: twenty five if their young players start to meet their expectations.

636
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: They just need to stay healthy first.

637
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: And he preface it by saying, McCormick and Frasier have

638
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: hit expectations. You know, or have you been a hit.

639
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: At twelve are the Buffalo Bills Dean Dawkins, David Edwards,

640
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, Cyrus Torrens, Spencer Brown.

641
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: I love what they've done because they used to be

642
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: a finesse TYPEO line. Now they play more six to

643
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: zero line sets than anybody. They draft Torrence who's three forty.

644
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: There is physical group as you'll see in the league.

645
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Eleven is the Ravens. Eh, they'd be lower. Ronnie Stanley Okay.

646
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna call him a top ten

647
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: tackle or offensive left tackle, not say top twelve left tackle.

648
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm talking.

649
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Andrew Vorheas, Tyler Linderbaum, Daniel Filele, Roger Rosengarten.

650
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: Like I would assume one of those guards gets replaced

651
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: by a draft pick.

652
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: But ideally they'd like to replace both of them.

653
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Speaker 3: I know. I think it's settled for one.

654
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Speaker 1: Started last year because Vorheast was terrible. They tried to

655
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Speaker 1: give the job the vorheats right in training camp and

656
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: he couldn't win it.

657
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: And they lost McCary, who was their glue guy filling

658
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Speaker 3: the blank type. Dude Rose and Gardens better than I

659
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: thought he'd be. I wasn't a coming out. But Linderbaum's good,

660
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, he's their best player, I think,

661
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: but the guards are well below average. Yeah.

662
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: Ten are the Bears, Braxton Jones, Joe Thuni, Drew Dolman,

663
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Jonah Jackson, Darnell Right.

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Speaker 3: I don't a problem with that at all either, except

665
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: for so much change. Maybe Week one doesn't look as

666
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: good as he might not look, right, That's a lot

667
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: of things moving around. And then they drafted Trapeo too, Trapillo.

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Speaker 1: Nine are the Panthers Ika mchwano, Damian Lewis, Austin Corbett,

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Speaker 1: Robert Hunt, Taylor Moten.

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Speaker 3: I've been really hard on that that organization, but to

671
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Speaker 3: their credit, not this offseason. The offseason before with a

672
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Speaker 3: really small, short quarterback. They spent a fortune on two

673
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: guards and they got their money's worth, you know what

674
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's a.

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Speaker 1: Reason why they were able to run the ball absolutely all.

676
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: It didn't matter what was going on at quarterback, didn't.

677
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Speaker 3: It was their Yeah, without question, right. Chuba Hubber is

678
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: just a guy, but he's running for a lot of yards.

679
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: I think Taylor Motens won the more under reags. Yeah,

680
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: that's a good guys in the league.

681
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: Key's getting a little better and little or Moon's good.

682
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: Moten's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Eight is the Atlanta Falcons. Jake Matthews, Matthew Bergeron, Robert

684
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: or Ryan Newzill, Chris Linstrom, Caleb McGarry.

685
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: What scares me is, I know nothing about news Lake.

686
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: They didn't do anything at session mark even though they lost.

687
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: Almond and the other guys are good, but they've kind

688
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: of been there a long time and they ever really

689
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: hit their stride. It's okay, I mean, it's about properly ranked.

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00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Seven of the Chargers for Sean Slater's Ion Johnson, Bradley Boseman,

691
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Mackai Becton, Joel.

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: Interior isn't as strong as you think. I was doing

693
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: a podcast today breaking down their draft, and I was

694
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: shocked they didn't draft any interior alignment. Becton's a big investment.

695
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Will he be the same without Jeff Stoutlin. It's worth

696
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Speaker 3: the risk.

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Speaker 1: They have Andre James and Jamari Saylor.

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Speaker 3: And James, so they got They got some more than

699
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 1: Then they got some bench players.

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00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: The tackles could be as good as any parent the league.

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Speaker 1: Six is the Rams Alaric Jackson, Steve Avia Bolimmer, Kevin Dottson,

703
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein.

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Speaker 3: Limmer is another one of those centers that from last

705
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: year that did enough that they're ready to start him.

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Speaker 3: It might be a little high sixty. It's pretty high.

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Speaker 1: At five or the Vikings Christian Darisaw, Donovan Jackson, Ryan Kelly,

708
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Speaker 1: will Freeze and Brian O'Neill.

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Speaker 3: It's funny like two teams that division and several teams

710
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: across the league just revamped the interior line. Three new

711
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 3: starters from guard to guard. The tackles were great, but

712
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Speaker 3: Thereris I was coming off an injury.

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Speaker 1: Four surprisingly as the Lions. Wow, it's pretty low, yeah,

714
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Taylor Decker, Christian Mahogany, Frank Ragnow, Tate Ratledge and Penny Sewell.

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Speaker 3: I think the guards are not set in stone. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They draft Dank Miles.

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00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they drafted a bunch. I think that needs to

718
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: work itself out. Zeitler's gone, but the tackles. Sewell's probably

719
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Speaker 3: as good attack players there as in the league.

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Speaker 1: And Rag now still star Decker solid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Three is Tampa Bay Tristram Worris, Beren Bretison, Graham Barton,

723
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Speaker 1: Cody Mack and lou Luke Gekke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And to Worf's credit, I mean, what a stud

725
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: he is. He goes from right guard, right tackle to

726
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: left tackle left last year, doesn't miss a beat that

727
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: allows get to be a right tackle because he's a

728
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Speaker 3: right tackle only. So they kind of got everyone in

729
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: the right spots. And as you mentioned earlier, Barton's really good.

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Speaker 1: Two is Denver Garrett Bowles, Ben Powers, Luke Wattenberg, Quinn Minors,

731
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Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey.

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Speaker 3: I knew nothing about Waterberger. I think the left side

733
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: that is okay, Yeah, yeah, Ben Powers is just a guy.

734
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Speaker 3: He's just a guy, right. Quinn Miners is one of

735
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Speaker 3: the best guards in the Glinch solid, especially in the

736
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Speaker 3: run game. Number two I'd probably take the Lions or

737
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: a couple of brought up right.

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Speaker 1: At Leaves one Philadelphia. Jordan Mylotta, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens,

739
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Speaker 1: Tyler Steen, and Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Who's the depth for that? I think they got hit a.

741
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: Little Kenyan Green, Kendall Lamb, Matt Pryor, Drew Kendall and

742
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: Cameron Williams.

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the depth isn't as good as it usually is.

744
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: But they did take three draft picks kind of late.

745
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: That one of them I bet hits you know that

746
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: just develop them with Stoutland University as they call it,

747
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: six seventh round, Oh Lineman, with ability, I they would

748
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: be number one, but they might be ninety five percent

749
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 3: of last year. You know, Becton's gone, Lane Johnson's not young.

750
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh he didn't worry about guys too that have back issues.

751
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: Oh I think is that Jurgens has a back. I

752
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: don't love that. Yeah, they just signed him the big

753
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: money for center, Like, yeah, they put a lot of

754
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: stress on back. You block Casey Hampton. Yeah, they gave

755
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: him a huge contract, which I kind of get. But

756
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he's like the next Kelsey. No, I

757
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: mean he's not a top five center, No, I don't player.

758
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: But you know, but Steelers coming in on that probably

759
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: a lot higher than a lot of our listeners a thought.

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00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: Oh, I would imagine that was worth the exercise just there.

761
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you started naming all the names, and I'm

762
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: sure a lot of our listeners don't know a lot

763
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: of these guards and centers that we're talking about, of course,

764
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: but why you listen, you know, I mean, and this

765
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: is a pretty solid list.

766
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we didn't put this together.

767
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: No, no, we just and I do think the Steelers

768
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: ceiling offensive line wise, it's pretty high.

769
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: It could be top ten by next year.

770
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if everybody's healthy and improving, you

771
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: could be in good shape.

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Speaker 1: It should be top be quite frank, it should be

773
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Speaker 1: top ten next year. When you've used two first round

774
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Speaker 1: draft picks, a second round pick, a fourth round pick. Yeah,

775
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean you've You've used a lot of ice sources

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line in the last two years.

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00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: I could also see a path, unfortunately, where what if

778
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: a ton who can't stay healthy for some reason and

779
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: see them all who gets old and all of a sudden, yes.

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00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: Going on there, it's every team on here, right, right,

781
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: you know.

782
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: So there's some volatility with it because they're young, but

783
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: I think they're upsides high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to another break. Is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Driver on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt Now, I will be back

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Speaker 1: with more right after this least.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: And Steelers have made a couple of well a few

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Speaker 1: roster moves here, signing three guys out of the rookie

794
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Speaker 1: tryout camp over the weekend, running backs Max Hurlman and

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Speaker 1: Trey Sermon.

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: Gray Shermon's a brand name guy.

797
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: And offensive tackle Garrett Gareth Warren. And they released running

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Speaker 1: back Aaron Shamplin.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I can't comment much on the other two, but Sermon,

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00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: I like, coming out of Ohio State, really started his

801
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 3: career slow. I don't know if he has any special

802
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: team's history because like a Benny Snow, I would hope

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00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: for his case he does now because he didn't really

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: in his rookie year, he kind of was profiled as

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00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 3: a feature.

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00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: I think he's been using kick returner.

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00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, but I hope he can tackle

808
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: and run down for his sake, you know, because otherwise

809
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna be in a tough situation, but so worth

810
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: the risk. I mean, was he a third or fourth

811
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: round pick out of Ohio State? Productive guy? Yeah, went treats, big,

812
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: physical dude, zone runner. You know it kind of has

813
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: some Caleb Johnson look about him.

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00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: He's one hundred and thirty four carries for five hundred

815
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and five yards in his career, three touchdowns. Who knows, yeah, right,

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00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: hurlman is he started his career at Colegates, went to

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, then returns punts. Okay, has also played a

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00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: lot on special teams those kind of things.

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00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: Good good, hell.

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00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: And then Warren played at linden Wood, the Ohio Valley

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Speaker 1: Conference team. And then you know it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: You're you're taking a shot on a yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If he has a referensive tackle, right right right.

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Speaker 3: Let me say, if he's a tackle with trades, great,

825
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: he must un something in camp to impress and must

826
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: un something to get the camp that was impressive. You know,

827
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Speaker 3: develop them. I mean, if any of those dudes end

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00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: up being practice squatters, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're not looking for them to get the

831
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Speaker 3: ball twenty times a game or be your next dance

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Speaker 3: or starting left tackle. But if you get a practice

833
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: squad guy that is useful, great.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're looking for doing. So that was what

835
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Speaker 1: they added after this rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 3: Which means they're just coming to Latrobe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just means you get Well, that doesn't even guarantee.

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00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: It's not a guarantee deal either.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna get You're gonna probably you're gonna get

840
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: through OTAs. You'll probably go to mini camp and then

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: they'll decide.

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00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: Shampion thought he was going to Latrobe. Yes, someone's got

843
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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah and stuff, and you're probably gonna name You're probably

846
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: gonna sign a quarterback. You might add a wide receiver,

847
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: and I think so many rosters.

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Speaker 1: Well, they didn't sign the quarterback that they had in

849
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Speaker 1: the rookie.

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Speaker 3: I was talking about a veteran.

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00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, so as we sit here, they

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Speaker 1: still only have three on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. Oh, I see what you're saying. So

854
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: there's still a spot sitting there. They're going to take four, yeah, can.

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Speaker 1: They will take four. It will have four on the roster.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact.

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Speaker 1: One of them will not be either one of us.

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Speaker 3: No, sounds like it won't be Derek Carr. Either will

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Speaker 3: not be Derek Carr. But I'm gonna try one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent believe he's retired.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think he could be talked out.

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Speaker 1: Price was right.

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Speaker 3: After June first. I bet he could get talked out

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's situation.

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Speaker 3: He's like a right unless his shoulders shot, which maybe

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Speaker 3: it is. But that that whole situation I always thought

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Speaker 3: was a little weird. Yeah, you know, Okay, so that's

869
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Speaker 3: they did. They're always tweaking the roster, you know. Yeah,

870
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Speaker 3: not earth shattering moves.

871
00:40:54,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: One of the local radio personality went on went on

872
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: social media this weekend and reported that hot rumor in Pittsburgh,

873
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has joined Neville applied for membership at Neverwood

874
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Country Club. All you had to do is pick up

875
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: the phone.

876
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: Is that possible if I'm a Neverwood.

877
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: First of all, it's not true. It wasn't true. It's

878
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: never been true. He didn't do that.

879
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: No, I mean it's third hand information. But I've read

880
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: on a tweet today that Jerry went on the air

881
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: and said that's not sure to happen. And if I

882
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: trust anyone with the combination of golf and inside Steelers knowledge,

883
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: it's Jerry Doulet more than anyone in the city.

884
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: It's just my mind, the dealing in rumors and and

885
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: just throwing stuff out there on the social media just

886
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: to get interaction, and I just I can't live in that.

887
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: World, right, I mean, I'm sure that Aaron Rodgers, if

888
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: he becomes a Steeler, can find golf course he could go.

889
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Nevillwood would invite him. He doesn't even have to join.

890
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: Now never what I'm sure would say, Hey Aaron, you

891
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: want to come play.

892
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: Or I'm sure he has a friend that'll take him,

893
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: or go to other country clubs, right right, come.

894
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: On, who knows it's it's It's no different than the

895
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: people who always post the same photo of the guy

896
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: at the at the counter in the airport scene at

897
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: this area. I've seen it, Boston Airport, Pittsburgh Airport. It's

898
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: the same guy at like all right, that's he's in

899
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: semi humorous right, right, right? This is just garbage, like

900
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: and I get it. The person couched it as a

901
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: hot rumor in Pittsburgh. Well, if it's a hot rum

902
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, you're somebody who's supposed to have contacts in

903
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: the business. If it were me and I heard said

904
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: hot rumor and was going to put it onto social media,

905
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: I would at least call Nevillwood.

906
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: Would they tell you.

907
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would or not, but I

908
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: would at least call Nevillwood, or I'd find somebody who

909
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: was a member at Nevillwood do either. I wouldn't just

910
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: run with.

911
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: It, right right, it sounds great, that's worse crap. Right,

912
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: Maybe he called them, said, I mean, maybe there was

913
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: a contact, Rogers reached out to a country We've just lost.

914
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: You lose all credibility if you ever had any You

915
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: lose all credibility with anybody by throwing out stuff like

916
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: that on And even though you said, well it was

917
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: a rumor, you still lose all credibility.

918
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: I like how you define rumors versus news too, you know,

919
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: like the rumors just a status. Right.

920
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: I can roll through our the YouTube pages on here

921
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: and see twenty five to thirty different shows dealing in rumors.

922
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: Right right, right.

923
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: That doesn't make it a report, That doesn't make it.

924
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: It's just garbage. Yeah, the stuff that comes out this

925
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: time of year is mostly garbage.

926
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: Right, So I'm never on the other end of this.

927
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: But I told you the other day that the Bears

928
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: fans came at me so hard because I retweeted the

929
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: pickens Chefter trade. Yeah, and just wrote ten wide receiver

930
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: names Steelers, question Mark could available. DJ Moore was one

931
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: of them. And somebody who I know has been in

932
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: the business a long time in the Chicago media is like,

933
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: this is crazy. There's no chance. I'm not saying it's

934
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: gonna happen. It's not a room. I'm not creating a rumor.

935
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing out the name. But Chicago fans lost

936
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: their mind. You're an idiot, You're you know, blah blah blah,

937
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: which is fine. I don't that that honestly doesn't even

938
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 3: bother me that much. I mean, it's just a name

939
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: to throw out there as a potential thing. The day

940
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 3: that trade happened. Are these Bears fans close to the

941
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: Bears than me?

942
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Not?

943
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: Fans, but people do what we do. Of course they are.

944
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: But I don't regret putting it out there. I mean,

945
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 3: like that's not DJ Moore was at Steeler facility or

946
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 3: at the airport or applying to Nevillwood joining the I'm

947
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: gonna say these are names that should they should consider.

948
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: I you know, when you're reading stuff like f folks,

949
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: my bottom line is considered the source. Has the source

950
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: ever been right about anything? What percentage of new percentage

951
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: of it if it's true, if ninety percent and nobody's

952
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: going to bat one thousand or it just doesn't happen.

953
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna put stuff out there. You're gonna like that

954
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: you hear and sometimes but you better at least hit

955
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty.

956
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: You ever be get it once in a while, right, yeah,

957
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're it.

958
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: Can't be consistently wrong about everything.

959
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: Right, Like I've never broke news in my life, but

960
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: i'd i'd have to be pretty sure to break news

961
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: to say this is going to happen.

962
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: Well. And that's the difference now between some of these

963
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: fly by night websites and things of that nature that

964
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: put stuff out there, actual reporters right right, right, Like

965
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: an actual reporter will be they'll have it nailed down

966
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: like now. It may still not work out, but you're

967
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: not just throwing crap against the wall and hoping it happens.

968
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: You heard something from somebody, a credible.

969
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: Sorce Yeah you trade the Kurk trade or this is

970
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 3: who they liked in the draft didn't go that way.

971
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: That kind of thing doesn't mean it happens, but it's

972
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: was close, or it was on the horizon or whatever,

973
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: you know.

974
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: Not a friend of a friend of a friend told

975
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: me this now.

976
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: So the bottom line is my opinion of Aaron Rodgers

977
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: or chances of Aaron Rodgers becoming a Steeler has not

978
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: changed none iota. And I'm still pretty confident is going

979
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: to happen. Yeah, you know, but no one's asking my

980
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: opinion on that matter.

981
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: Nora's Nevillwood asking us, I'd have to be a guest.

982
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Speaker 1: Let's get to a break that's going to do it

983
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Speaker 1: for our number one of the drive here on the

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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with our

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Speaker 1: number two right after this