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Speaker 1: did you have the heart to watch FRO football this weekend?
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah of course? Yeah? Yeah, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: miss it a second, man. And what a weekend of
Speaker 1: football it was. Yeah, I'm still basking in the after
Speaker 1: glow of Sunday's games. That Kansas City Buffalo game was
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. It's just best game you've ever seen. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that's the best game I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's up there, though, it's up there. For me. I
Speaker 1: would say yeah, for me, it was a conversations for me,
Speaker 1: I think. As far as playoff games, the Houston Oilers
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans game the Music City Miracles something like that
Speaker 1: was probably that that was one of the craziest players
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in the football game. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: but that was exciting. I mean, look, that's as far
Speaker 1: as coaching goes, execution, goals, quarterback play goes, all of
Speaker 1: that was like everything was on point, uh in that game.
Speaker 1: I mean I'd asked you when you walked in, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, is there any games that you saw,
Speaker 1: any teams that you saw that you were just left
Speaker 1: you green with envy? Uh? Well, Kansas City always Kansas City,
Speaker 1: Always Kansas City. Okay, because anytime you can score a
Speaker 1: touchdown and will score in thirteen seconds period that yeah,
Speaker 1: who who don't bring that up? What I have to do? That?
Speaker 1: What human can do that? Because they were fatty mahomes
Speaker 1: and he had three timeouts. But also what about anybody?
Speaker 1: What about you? Anybody that you just watched and was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, I wish I had one of those. No,
Speaker 1: this game was that the game was pretty exciting for
Speaker 1: me just because of the standpoint of the execution on
Speaker 1: both sides right both teams, Uh, they were just it
Speaker 1: was a head to head combat and it was what
Speaker 1: you expected out of those guys. That was That was
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game. I don't care if nobody has
Speaker 1: to say, um, that's really the super Bowl and everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to see just can't happen. But Josh Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and freaking my Homes, their their ability to go up there,
Speaker 1: handle deeds of the line of screamers, get the ball out,
Speaker 1: make plays by time, move their team down the field,
Speaker 1: move the chains, m using their feet tough. Isn't it
Speaker 1: just crazy how important that is? Did you see the
Speaker 1: way that Josh Allen leader pressure had to run the football,
Speaker 1: but also just buy time because Kansas City got after him.
Speaker 1: There were pressure after pressure after pressure after pressure. Chris
Speaker 1: Jones blew up the middle of that line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Sound familiar, Yeah, sound familiar. I mean, but he put
Speaker 1: them on skates even when they even when they did
Speaker 1: their job coverage wise, guess who they didn't account for.
Speaker 1: They didn't account for freaking Josh Allen and his ability
Speaker 1: to do what simply run down the field, get down,
Speaker 1: move the chains, new set of downs that literally wears
Speaker 1: a defense outs you. If you ever want to see
Speaker 1: a defense disoriented and discourage. Let a quarterback make a
Speaker 1: couple a couple of first downs using their feet, It
Speaker 1: will frustrate the crap out of you. And I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys nation might have some of that frustration.
Speaker 1: And see, and there's a reason why we're talking about this.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why because I wanted to back at it,
Speaker 1: wanted to th throw this questions a week but never left.
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw this question out there after talking
Speaker 1: about this and after watching those games you you asked
Speaker 1: the question of who who did you envy? But did
Speaker 1: it change the way you thought about the way your
Speaker 1: Cowboys expectations were tempered throughout the season. That's my biggest
Speaker 1: thing because I looked at it and I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was as out of the cake as
Speaker 1: anybody this season with the Cowboys, and I still am.
Speaker 1: I still think this team, talented wise, could have done
Speaker 1: similar things to what you saw this past weekend. But man,
Speaker 1: the execution, like you said, the quarterback play, the way
Speaker 1: that things kind of worked out and still the Bills lost.
Speaker 1: It made me look at the Cowboys and really say,
Speaker 1: maybe we weren't as close. Who do you guys think
Speaker 1: about the coordinators. What do you mean just just from
Speaker 1: the display of coordinators between being and me and I
Speaker 1: don't even know who calls the plays for for Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but it was it was great. I mean to me,
Speaker 1: that game was And like the Green Bay forty nine
Speaker 1: er game. You could say the weather affected a lot
Speaker 1: of that stuff, sure, but that was next level in
Speaker 1: terms of execution, scheme, whatever you want to say. I
Speaker 1: mean that that might have been the best two teams
Speaker 1: in the league, you know, just going at it in
Speaker 1: the second round. It's just the way that the schedule
Speaker 1: held up. I think. I don't know how you could
Speaker 1: say anything different in terms of yeah, it was better
Speaker 1: than what we've seen here, especially down the stretch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did it? Did it change the way you think about
Speaker 1: Cowboys expectations? Yes and no. Like I it's weird talking
Speaker 1: about this team. It's been weird talking about this team
Speaker 1: because I think we all picked him to beat the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, but a lot of that had to
Speaker 1: do with what we saw six games into the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I saw last ten games made me feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh kayle picked him to win this game. I don't
Speaker 1: know about the next games because they worked as efficient.
Speaker 1: They were not as in sync offensively, and and they
Speaker 1: relied on take ways a lot to get that done,
Speaker 1: which you can't count on all the time in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So no, I mean, I think where they ended up
Speaker 1: is not, like, to me, not the biggest shock in
Speaker 1: the world. It's the way they came out and played
Speaker 1: that is so frustrating to fans understandably, and to Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones as well, who talked on the fan last Friday.
Speaker 1: I get it. That's and that's the thing, Like you know,
Speaker 1: when I asked the question about being green with Ivy
Speaker 1: and you talk about the coordinators, like all of that
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand of seeing coordinators like Eric being
Speaker 1: amy in the game that he called was masterful in
Speaker 1: that last thirteen seconds point take in Isaiah. But for me,
Speaker 1: it was it was a young guy in Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: who had a horrible offensive line, oh awful, who was
Speaker 1: sacked nine times, but that boy kept delivering the bacon.
Speaker 1: I mean, he stood in there. He made throw after
Speaker 1: throw after throw, and obviously if you have a receiver
Speaker 1: like Jamar Chase, that should makes it a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot easier, does it, Yeah? It does, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: us They get him the ball. They got him the ball.
Speaker 1: But Jamar Chase, Let's just be fair. Jamar Chase is
Speaker 1: a whole different specimen of wide receiver. He' isn't that
Speaker 1: What's what Amari Cooper and clam are supposed to be?
Speaker 1: The oof oof? Okay, let's just just would you confuse
Speaker 1: Jamara Chase with Cede Lamb, Aremark Coop? Different styles? Different
Speaker 1: different styles, both all dominant? Uh huh? Would you? Would
Speaker 1: you not put them all on the dominant category? They
Speaker 1: have the talent to be dominant. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: one of those three, we only have one year. We
Speaker 1: only have one year of Jamar Chase, and so I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just basing it off of what he did
Speaker 1: in one year. I just hadn't either of those guys
Speaker 1: done what he did. So I just want to peel
Speaker 1: this back here. Just come on, Jamar Chases dominant? Would
Speaker 1: you we all agree? Yes? Dominant this year? This year,
Speaker 1: that's all we seen dominant. Look at the touchdowns Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb or beneath Jamar Chase. Is that where we're stating.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if we have absolutely yeah, if we have
Speaker 1: cars on the we have cars that we're looking at.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's Ferra reports as like whatever the top
Speaker 1: up that's with jam So Jamar Chase is a Lambow
Speaker 1: and Coop and CD are kind of Yeah. As I
Speaker 1: was coming downstairs, I was talking to Danny McPeak I
Speaker 1: love McLarens. They're actually their home is I like McClaren's. Hey,
Speaker 1: give me a shout out. I was talking to Danny McRae,
Speaker 1: who's if you checked his instagram, he was getting He
Speaker 1: looks like he's in the gym. He's getting ready for
Speaker 1: some type he is getting ready. Yeah, it's unfortunate he's
Speaker 1: gonna put all that work in for nothing. But but
Speaker 1: we were ironically we were talking about foot race and
Speaker 1: he said, I would like to see Jamar Chase and
Speaker 1: tyreeking you. No, Jamar Chase is fast, tyrekis a cheetah.
Speaker 1: But I think what you were saying like different types
Speaker 1: of skills. Yes, those two guys have different types. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're in a category of their own. However, what
Speaker 1: I wanted to highlights, and we've talked about this numerous times,
Speaker 1: it's just the ability, and we've had this conversation, the
Speaker 1: ability of these officsive coordinators, that what they put on
Speaker 1: display this weekend to get their play makers the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. When you when you ask
Speaker 1: that question, Robbie, when you ask that question, Kyle, that's
Speaker 1: what goes into my head. No other team in the
Speaker 1: debate comes into in conversation in terms of, hey, well
Speaker 1: you can't just force feed your guys, because if you
Speaker 1: force feed your guys and you can stall out your
Speaker 1: offense and you don't get the other guys the ball.
Speaker 1: These other teams aren't having that issue at all. Green
Speaker 1: Bay lost the ball, But who who who do they
Speaker 1: make sure got the ball? Adam he made He almost
Speaker 1: caught almost every pass from them, right, Okay, Um, we
Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati who got the ball? They're number one? Correct? Okay,
Speaker 1: Let's go to La the Rams. Who who got the ball?
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup? Cooper Cup, no question about it. Who else
Speaker 1: played this weekend? Um? The forty nine ers, who's their guy? Debo?
Speaker 1: Did they have any issue getting him the ball? No
Speaker 1: running back and receiver? So so this I can't I
Speaker 1: can't comprehend now that the conversation is now coming up
Speaker 1: that the oh Amark Cooper just wasn't on his game
Speaker 1: this year, and now all of a sudden there's controversy.
Speaker 1: Is he's gonna be on the team, should he get aided?
Speaker 1: Is he getting paid too much? You didn't get him
Speaker 1: the ball? Is it possible that the fact that maybe
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is just not as good as Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: used to be? That's always I mean, I would imagine
Speaker 1: that's what the case for most guys. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think guys kind of dwindle off. There's a peak in
Speaker 1: there and then you start resinding. So I think that's
Speaker 1: the case. But I don't think we could sit up
Speaker 1: here and say Mark Cooper wasn't getting open. That's a
Speaker 1: totally different conversation. Yeah, that's that's that's a totally different conversation.
Speaker 1: If he wasn't getting open, we could sit up here
Speaker 1: and standing on a on a hill all day long
Speaker 1: and say, hey, Coop, you Cooper, you're not the same
Speaker 1: as you used to be. Hey, you know you're not
Speaker 1: justified to get paid this much. You know, maybe we
Speaker 1: need to trade your way, cap space, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. That's not the conversation. A conversation simply is
Speaker 1: one sight and saying they didn't get him the ball,
Speaker 1: but every other team that has a number one gets
Speaker 1: their guy the ball without compromising their offense. No, you
Speaker 1: make a great point. And my whole thing was when
Speaker 1: I'm watching football and I'm seeing guys like, wow, that's different.
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase was just a difference maker for the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 1: And no, we didn't give our difference maker as an opposite.
Speaker 1: There were points in the season where our office offense
Speaker 1: was inpt installed out and you could put that on
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore. You could all this mystery calf injury or
Speaker 1: whatever it possibly was. But look, man, season's over with.
Speaker 1: We're here. I don't want a railroad to take this
Speaker 1: thing off the rails too. No. No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: to be a dress going into next year. No, right,
Speaker 1: And I absolutely get it. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the one to think that Almark Cooper he's a baller.
Speaker 1: I see CD Lamp, he's a baller. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: at these other guys and saying, oh, our guys just
Speaker 1: can't pull this off. I know they can, but I've
Speaker 1: gotten accustomed to our coordinator not calling plays specifically for guys,
Speaker 1: but scheming plays that he thinks will work in games.
Speaker 1: I've already said it is he calling plays for players
Speaker 1: or is he calling plays? Which one is it? You know? Definite? Right,
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, I can't. I'm hitting my head
Speaker 1: of cement to try and make this thing change and
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, and this is just the way
Speaker 1: our coordinators work. But you look around the league. You're
Speaker 1: making a great point. What is Eric be Enemy doing
Speaker 1: when it's when it's crunch time. He getting the ball
Speaker 1: to the people that he know can stretch to feel
Speaker 1: and everybody knows who's getting it right. And there's no
Speaker 1: question about it. And we and we talked about Amari
Speaker 1: so far, but Troy Aitman's on the radio local radio
Speaker 1: last week and talking about Ceedee Lamb in that game
Speaker 1: where it's single coverage, why not you know? And the
Speaker 1: flip side is, like we're talking about these other games.
Speaker 1: You watch the Bills and Stefan Diggs is taken out
Speaker 1: of the game. Okay, So Josh Allen chucks it up
Speaker 1: to Gabriel Davis for four touchdowns. So that's an example
Speaker 1: of hey, we'll take what they what they give us.
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a balance between the two
Speaker 1: like because the Cowboys have always i mean, going back
Speaker 1: to Jason Garrett, We're gonna take what the defense gives us.
Speaker 1: We love our balance, we love all the different options
Speaker 1: we have, but hey, continue to find ways to get
Speaker 1: your top guys open, you know, and get it and
Speaker 1: get and get the ball to But when they take
Speaker 1: Diggs out the game, did their off install No? No, no,
Speaker 1: And that's that's the puzzling thing for me. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: you can you take that side of the Argument's like, well,
Speaker 1: damn they should have won that game. Is Gabriel Davis
Speaker 1: better than Ceedee Lamb not a no? Yeah, there's no way,
Speaker 1: no no, not today. Yeah, receiving four touchdowns, he followed
Speaker 1: out and we're all on the same page here. It's
Speaker 1: all it's all coming to a head. And what is
Speaker 1: that head. It's the offensive coordinator. I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: what it has been. And you it goes back to
Speaker 1: the conversation. I feel like we're broken records in this studio,
Speaker 1: but it goes all the way back to he was
Speaker 1: in the bag early and then the bag ran out,
Speaker 1: and then he didn't have anything to refill the bag with.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened all the way through, and
Speaker 1: there's no reason why an offense of this caliber, an
Speaker 1: offense with so many weapons. And that's the thing. We're
Speaker 1: not knocking Amari Cooper and Ceede Lamb as players, but
Speaker 1: we're saying the execution was not there and it's partly
Speaker 1: their fault. Sure it's it doesn't all fall on Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: but a good junk of it definitely does. It does,
Speaker 1: and it a good chunk of it all so false
Speaker 1: on your offensive line there, I mean, look, after watching
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, another team that left me green
Speaker 1: within on their offensive line. I mean they came in
Speaker 1: here and I think for all that we were talking
Speaker 1: about them, that offensive line has been overlooked. I mean
Speaker 1: they are mowing people down. That's why Deebo can do
Speaker 1: what he does. Do you see the motion with Trent
Speaker 1: Williams and the way that should be illegal? It should
Speaker 1: be illegal. It's assault. Should mean the way that you
Speaker 1: have that man rolling downhill with a head of steam
Speaker 1: and then just chop walking on the edge rusher. So
Speaker 1: you said green with MV. Do you feel better about
Speaker 1: the loss to them now after watching at Green Bay? No?
Speaker 1: You know what I look man, I feel like physicality
Speaker 1: watch after watching it a few times, they just came
Speaker 1: and they blunched us. They did a really good job.
Speaker 1: I mean they up Bob. Yeah. I mean it was
Speaker 1: like that we got fopped in the mouth, Bro. It happened,
Speaker 1: and it was it was from the beginning. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you were nerve, whatever, jittery, or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: I think physicality wise, they showed you that that's who
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are. You saw what they did
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. They mowed green Bay down. They didn't
Speaker 1: have to score offensively because the game was pretty much
Speaker 1: won in the trenches. Him how physical they were in
Speaker 1: their special teams. I mean, come on, man, whatever you
Speaker 1: can say about them, they deserve all the accolades, but
Speaker 1: they're just a physical ass team and they don't go
Speaker 1: away from what got them there. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of teams what happens is you have early success, you
Speaker 1: try and tinker with some other things, and then you
Speaker 1: get in trouble and you go, oh my god, who
Speaker 1: are we? And he can't go back into that bag.
Speaker 1: I think, Kellen Moore, that's what's what the problem was.
Speaker 1: What got you successful? And also the injury to Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: you got on one through whatever that Panthers game was,
Speaker 1: and the running game went straight down and there was
Speaker 1: no more production outter that. We understand that Dak needs
Speaker 1: other pieces around them to come on now to be success.
Speaker 1: It's sorry like that. I definitely because I'm seeing I'm
Speaker 1: seeing very clear right now. Is the what heck was
Speaker 1: trying to say. Listen up, come on, he's lifted the
Speaker 1: chin up on that, Mike. Yeah, I lifted it. Listen
Speaker 1: up here, Bob, I hear you, I hear you. Heck,
Speaker 1: but I'm not listening. Okay, Okay, all right, I'm not listening.
Speaker 1: The reason being again, Jimmy Kansas City leading rusher was
Speaker 1: who Patrick Mahomes Buffalo's leading rusher was? Who Josh Allen?
Speaker 1: Josh Allen? Do they have more weapons than the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at the receiver position San Francisco? Or seems to me,
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Kenn City's right there, Yes, Kensey's right there, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're right there. Running backs, neither one, neither one of
Speaker 1: them has a better backfield than us, even with a
Speaker 1: Zeke that's injured, correct, and yet they still find a
Speaker 1: way even without their running backs involved in the game
Speaker 1: who ran the ball for them. The receivers, you gotta
Speaker 1: worry about Pringle, you gotta worry about Tyreek, you gotta
Speaker 1: worry Abou. You know, Harmon and McKinnon. They find ways
Speaker 1: to run, quote unquote run the ball. There's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: I hear you, but there's not an excuse, even if
Speaker 1: it comes in the form of stepping outside of tradition.
Speaker 1: They have to find a way as a coordinator to
Speaker 1: utilize your best players to get what you still need
Speaker 1: to get done and get it accomplished. And that's what
Speaker 1: these other coordinators are doing. I'm not taking any of
Speaker 1: the responsibility off deck. We're not talking about Dak right
Speaker 1: now because he has his own things he has to
Speaker 1: work on this offseason. But the coordinators, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: square and eye. Coordinators, they find ways to get it
Speaker 1: done regardless of what they have available to them, real quickly.
Speaker 1: Because I know you will have a rebuttal to this,
Speaker 1: but I do I disagree with you here because of
Speaker 1: the way you just pushed Dak aside like that. Because
Speaker 1: look at the rushing attack from from the Bills on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Ten carries twenty six yards for Devin's singletary and a
Speaker 1: touchdown long run of seven. That's a similar stat line
Speaker 1: to what Zeke had the back half. I agreed it
Speaker 1: was not impressive, but they gave them carries. Still didn't
Speaker 1: have that efficiency. And then they had McKenzie who had
Speaker 1: three carries for fifteen yards and as long was eleven,
Speaker 1: So it's not like he had any success quarterback has
Speaker 1: that one true punch eleven for sixty eight. That's the
Speaker 1: thing though, is Dak Prescott wasn't able to do that.
Speaker 1: Those guys. Those guys were special Sunday capability and scrambling
Speaker 1: and yeah, that was but that what attribute does Dak
Speaker 1: not possessed that he can't do the same thing. Please
Speaker 1: help me understand. But he didn't do it, then that's
Speaker 1: a decision, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but he's capable.
Speaker 1: So see since the injury is capable, he's healthy. On that. Well,
Speaker 1: we saw a little bit more of it as the
Speaker 1: season went on, but yeah, I think he was obviously
Speaker 1: more selective in doing it. And I don't really blame
Speaker 1: him for that. I don't either coming off the two injuries.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he was trying to get through the
Speaker 1: season and get to that point the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was and he talked about it like there's a
Speaker 1: time and a place to do it. He did more
Speaker 1: of it late, so I think he's still capable of
Speaker 1: doing it. But I think maybe we're expecting too much
Speaker 1: from a guy coming off that type of injury to
Speaker 1: just be the same scrambler. That's thing, you know, you're
Speaker 1: saying when it's nut cutting time, do what you do.
Speaker 1: If you if you if you gotta running, and if
Speaker 1: the running game is hurting, then be the difference. All right,
Speaker 1: But the two quarterbacks that you're talking about are different.
Speaker 1: Different whoa slow down? Hold on, gym shoes, hold on.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. For Dak Hit, what what is
Speaker 1: in his secret sauce is a running game that completely
Speaker 1: disappeared at them in the middle of the season. The
Speaker 1: running back that we're talking about that at the PCL
Speaker 1: and also the second team running back that with Plantar right,
Speaker 1: all of that, the running game just completely tanked. Kansas
Speaker 1: City has so many other things that they can go to.
Speaker 1: What else did we do we have once our running
Speaker 1: game goes away, Because at that point your rhythm is gone.
Speaker 1: Teams that can pin their ends back and come after
Speaker 1: you because of where your offensive line is. I know
Speaker 1: what this is. He just read the stats. But their backfield.
Speaker 1: He just read the stats at their backfield. The difference
Speaker 1: is there's no invisible force field for Josh Allen and Homes.
Speaker 1: You stay a quarterback making the difference dog on right
Speaker 1: with everybody, there's no right game. If they want to cover,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the first I am taking it, sliding, getting
Speaker 1: my butt up, walking back to the huddle. First day,
Speaker 1: I'm moved to chains correct that. That's what those guys did.
Speaker 1: They took They took the bull by the horns and said,
Speaker 1: screwed his dog on bull. I'm moving my team forward
Speaker 1: regardless of what I'm comfortable ball doing well. He did
Speaker 1: do that to some extent against Sanfray. He led them
Speaker 1: in rushing. Absolutely absolutely did that guy when he wasn't
Speaker 1: getting But that's what you're asking for. But that's but
Speaker 1: there was plenty of other opportunities what I'm saying in
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Gay in San Francisco game, he only
Speaker 1: had three carries for twenty or no ten yards prior
Speaker 1: to the seventeen yard or at the ends. But he
Speaker 1: could have been. That's what I'm saying. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not asking for Dack to come out here, and you
Speaker 1: start saucing cats up like Mike Vick. You and I'm
Speaker 1: on the same page. We're on the same page. You're
Speaker 1: saying it's a decision. Yeah, But there's also the argument
Speaker 1: that maybe, well, no, I no, maybe it's no. I
Speaker 1: think he did do more of it late in the season.
Speaker 1: I think you can argue what we saw Sunday, Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Alan are better at doing that than Dak. I
Speaker 1: mean that they are more dynamics scramblers that have been
Speaker 1: from the beginning. But yeah, doesn't mean he can't do it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean maybe next year or another year removed
Speaker 1: from that injury, maybe we won't see more of that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But yeah, I think that that was
Speaker 1: less of his game this year coming off the injury,
Speaker 1: no question about it. But you want him to see
Speaker 1: him do more of that. I want to see him
Speaker 1: move the chains by any means necessary. I have a
Speaker 1: tattoo army to say, by any means necessary, you a
Speaker 1: one this morning. No, I'm just I'm just I'm all
Speaker 1: about I don't like you know, I'll try to I
Speaker 1: try to take all excuses away. There are plenty of
Speaker 1: opportunities for Dak to move these chains he did. There
Speaker 1: are plenty of opportunities for killing, but you're killing the
Speaker 1: beginning of the seas right. You've been saying right and
Speaker 1: moved to chains. I'm not asking you to run nobody over.
Speaker 1: But why don't you think he did it? There's an
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Speaker 1: booty button that get open, right, everybody's covered. He's like, ah,
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Speaker 1: that I can't put my finger on it because I'm
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Speaker 1: utilize his feet the way he could have to help
Speaker 1: the team the way he could have, and Kellam Moore
Speaker 1: didn't do him any favors by not getting his other
Speaker 1: guys involved in five sweeps and red birds whatever everybody
Speaker 1: even whatever, whatever being he's doing, go watch his film.
Speaker 1: He figures it out. Another thing, another added element to
Speaker 1: this that both Buffalo and Kansas City have, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to take it to break off of this because
Speaker 1: I think we'll all kind of agree with this, is
Speaker 1: the fact that they had an added element to help
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and help Patrick Mahomes run the football, and
Speaker 1: that was a sturdy offensive line for the most part
Speaker 1: those two guys. Maybe not Joe Burrow and Kansas and
Speaker 1: Cincinnati that's a different story. But the offensive lines from
Speaker 1: Buffalo and Kansas City are phenomenal upfront, and they allowed
Speaker 1: those guys to move down field by holding their block
Speaker 1: longer than Dallas had throughout the latter half of the
Speaker 1: season of their offense. It's one of the biggest things
Speaker 1: I got to look at this office, absolutely, So when
Speaker 1: we come back, let's talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: There's some coaching rumors around dan Quinn and company. What's
Speaker 1: the latest on that, and who are some of the
Speaker 1: priority free agents that the Cowboys need to look at,
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Speaker 1: for that, Jim. That just happened. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: walked right into that one, Rob. All the references flying
Speaker 1: around in this room are unbelievable. UM defensive coordinator Dan Quinn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: will he be the defensive coordinator next year? It's a
Speaker 1: great question. I I wouldn't rule it out because because
Speaker 1: if I'm him like he's he may very well have
Speaker 1: options here. It might be Denver, it might be more
Speaker 1: than one team that really wants to hire him. Do they?
Speaker 1: If I'm him, do I? Is there a quarterback on
Speaker 1: that team where I feel like I can go win
Speaker 1: as a head coach next year? And if you don't
Speaker 1: feel that way, maybe you run it back here with
Speaker 1: some of the young talent you've got on this defense
Speaker 1: and be more jobs potentially next year. I totally would
Speaker 1: not rule it out completely, but it sure seems like
Speaker 1: he's very interested in being a head coach again in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. He has interviewed in five different places
Speaker 1: that we know of, and reportedly a second interview with
Speaker 1: Denver Cumming, the GM who he once worked with. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of smoke there. But I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: it's a hundred percent that he's gone. So that's good.
Speaker 1: That makes me excited to hear. I know you're on
Speaker 1: the bandwagon of you think he likes being here as
Speaker 1: a coordinator. Has that changed over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I believe that dan Quinn is fully comfortable being here.
Speaker 1: As a coordinator. However, there are I think there are
Speaker 1: two opportunities that are available that will be intriguing to him.
Speaker 1: One in which is the Chicago Bears, and number two
Speaker 1: is which is the Denver Broncos. And the reason why
Speaker 1: the different Broncos is to the same reasons that Rob
Speaker 1: he just brought up. But also I think he the
Speaker 1: reason why he has not made a decision yet to
Speaker 1: this point is because he I think there's some quarterback
Speaker 1: by the named Aaron Rodgers who might have just end
Speaker 1: his season, and I think he's waiting to see which
Speaker 1: team has the most leverage in terms of trying to
Speaker 1: acquire him. And I think if Denver has that upper hand,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that he would be too far behind,
Speaker 1: that you'll see dan Quinn signed. But I think those
Speaker 1: two have to be tied to each other. And the
Speaker 1: Broncos are also interviewing Green Bay's offensive coordinators, so like,
Speaker 1: it's just very interesting to see where the dominoes fall,
Speaker 1: or does Rogers retire, who knows and does Watson go.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions out there that still have
Speaker 1: to be answered. But you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: ego that goes into coaching, and there's only you know,
Speaker 1: there's only thirty two of these jobs, and dan Quinn
Speaker 1: obviously deals an ego like the rest of us man
Speaker 1: and he wants one of them. Why not you do
Speaker 1: all of this to get to the mountaintop. He's a
Speaker 1: proven commodity in the NFL. I mean, I love him.
Speaker 1: You were talking about him when he first got hired.
Speaker 1: I didn't obviously, just knowing about him from Afar and
Speaker 1: not understanding like how culture changing he is as a coach.
Speaker 1: His even an oldtas man out there with boxing gloves
Speaker 1: on getting down in the muck with the defensive linement.
Speaker 1: I think teams want that, especially with the psyche of
Speaker 1: today's player. I think dan Quinn speaks directly to that
Speaker 1: that's not enough to be said about guys like Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin can't coach in this NFL because team that guys
Speaker 1: are so much more fragiles true than the way that
Speaker 1: they used to be. And just dan Quinn and that
Speaker 1: he's a I don't want to call him a player's
Speaker 1: close coach to make it seem like he's lax in
Speaker 1: any way. I just think he speaks directly to the
Speaker 1: level that's a great point, because Mike has said that
Speaker 1: after the game, kind of just what you said, that
Speaker 1: that it's more than just football with him. He cares
Speaker 1: about you and and so he really connects with players.
Speaker 1: He's a culture builder. I think that's what teams see
Speaker 1: and that's what they like. That's what he brought to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: They just didn't quite get it done. You know, he
Speaker 1: should have a Super Bowl room, he ring. He really should.
Speaker 1: Um One more thing I want to say about that though,
Speaker 1: if he goes to Denver, let's just say that happens.
Speaker 1: That's six games against Pat Mahomes, justin Herbert and Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: So you they have some talent on defense. Man, we
Speaker 1: saw it here firsthand. But you need a quarterback in
Speaker 1: this league. That's the biggest takeaway I took from the
Speaker 1: past weekend of game, especially in AFC. Yeah, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people think that Denver is a quarterback away
Speaker 1: from being a legitimate roster again anyways, because of how
Speaker 1: good that defense is and because of some of the
Speaker 1: weapons the young guys that they have on the offensive side.
Speaker 1: But with dan Quinn, it's I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think the quarterback situation is certainly what's most intriguing because
Speaker 1: right now you look at the pool of candidates, I mean,
Speaker 1: look at Doug Peterson, Jim Caldwell, Kellen Moore is in
Speaker 1: that list. I mean, he's been interviewed by four or
Speaker 1: five teams already, Byron Leftwich, Todd Bowles, all these names
Speaker 1: that are out there. Dan Quinn's towards the top of
Speaker 1: that list, if not the top of that list, because
Speaker 1: of what he did as the defensive coordinator here. So
Speaker 1: he may have those options, and he has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to be picky. So maybe he's picky enough to say
Speaker 1: none of these intrigued me. I'm going to come back
Speaker 1: here for another year because he does have a good
Speaker 1: situation in Dallas. But if he were to leave, how
Speaker 1: much concern does that have for you on this deep
Speaker 1: with some of the added youth and the talent that
Speaker 1: you have on that side of the ball. Man, I
Speaker 1: just feel like he has to strike while the iron
Speaker 1: is hot, and he's hot right now, and in his position,
Speaker 1: I don't think that. Obviously, being in Dallas and the
Speaker 1: digs that you got here is not a bad deal,
Speaker 1: and also having one of the premier defenders in the
Speaker 1: league to coach for the next hive along is another thing.
Speaker 1: I think this defense obviously if you go to last
Speaker 1: year to this year night and day, and it definitely
Speaker 1: night and day with the personnel that you bought on,
Speaker 1: and that made the bigger difference also. But I just
Speaker 1: believe that I believe in dan Quinn. I believe in
Speaker 1: what he's bought to the system but to Dallas. But
Speaker 1: I just don't believe that he's going to be here.
Speaker 1: I just well, I know, and my question was how
Speaker 1: hard is he to replace with the pieces that he
Speaker 1: has put in a place now? But that I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess we don't know until we get there. But
Speaker 1: I think when you have a question, when you have
Speaker 1: a coach like George Edwards, you have other guys that
Speaker 1: are on your staff. You have twenty coaches are twenty
Speaker 1: eight coaches after McAdoo is left, I think you have
Speaker 1: coaches on staff that also helped that. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's as impossible as you think it is,
Speaker 1: or you have to go out and bring in just
Speaker 1: for a name, a Zimmer or someone like that. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to go out and reach I think
Speaker 1: you have someone on staff that can help you. Maybe
Speaker 1: Joey Jr. That's who I was thinking of because he's
Speaker 1: worked with Dan, similar scheme foundations there great coach, Players
Speaker 1: like him, respect him regardless though Asaiah Man like from
Speaker 1: a personnel standpoint, whoever's running this defense. We talked about
Speaker 1: offensive free agents. There's a lot of guys on defense
Speaker 1: that the depth as it stands right now is not
Speaker 1: what it would be this past season at linebacker, on
Speaker 1: defensive line. Obviously Randy Gregory's a priority in the secondary
Speaker 1: as well. They're going to have to get creative in
Speaker 1: restocking this defense and trying to resign guys, but might
Speaker 1: be having to go elsewhere for other guys. And why
Speaker 1: would guys sign back to Dallas? What would be the
Speaker 1: number one reason why guys would re up here on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. You're close and he's here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if san Quentin's here, that second part dan Quinn. Even
Speaker 1: if Dan Quinn's not here to play with Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons, I would throw that into the mix.
Speaker 1: Players would want to play with them. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't. I'm not saying that that's enough to
Speaker 1: bring them back. Dan Quinn a defensive coordinator, who's gonna
Speaker 1: put you in position and make the most plays. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna put you in a position Jay run curse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go wherever I'm in his back part. I'm linked
Speaker 1: lint in his pocket. I didn't even mention him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like you go from being kind of a special
Speaker 1: teams guy start a few games in your career to
Speaker 1: the leading tackler on the Dallas I walk into that,
Speaker 1: mister Quinn, I will be there every step of the way.
Speaker 1: That's so I bring that up because the reality is
Speaker 1: Dallas is in a bad position right now, that position
Speaker 1: that they figured that they might find themselves in. But
Speaker 1: now that a quarter of the league, a quarter to
Speaker 1: league's head coaching positions are available literally think about that, okay,
Speaker 1: and you know that those spots won't be available for
Speaker 1: at least another couple of years. So you know, and
Speaker 1: there's probably another quarter, if not more than that, in
Speaker 1: the league that those positions just won't become available just
Speaker 1: because those coaches are just that enthralled into their organization.
Speaker 1: So there's to your point, right Striking, while the Irons,
Speaker 1: there's a high probability that he's probably gone just because
Speaker 1: of just then, when's the next opportunity that I will
Speaker 1: have the defense, the ability for the Dallas Cowboys to
Speaker 1: bring back all these free agents, right, all these unrestricted guys,
Speaker 1: the majority of them are on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. You're talking, you know, because a lot of
Speaker 1: guys were on one year deals or whatever it may
Speaker 1: have been. Those guys are gonna be sitting back waiting saying,
Speaker 1: where's Dan gone? We're quitting? Or DQ, where's he? Where's
Speaker 1: he at all? Right? As soon as he signs, Hey, DQ,
Speaker 1: you got room for you, boy? You remember what I
Speaker 1: did for you last year? Look, and it's exactly what
Speaker 1: they did absolutely, So now you have that many more
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna want to piggyback and hopping in,
Speaker 1: hopping your backpack. So you started, you started talking about
Speaker 1: some of these defensive coordinator zimmers. His his personality doesn't
Speaker 1: matched this team. It just doesn't. You got somebody like
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn right now, you see positive, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Creative, engaging, uplifting, all those kind of things, exciting,
Speaker 1: high energy, and then you try to bring in a
Speaker 1: Zimmer that's just it's different. He was about talking about
Speaker 1: culture that it just doesn't match. So there's only so
Speaker 1: many of those guys. So I was saying the ability
Speaker 1: to bring those guys back. They're all gonna be waiting
Speaker 1: in the wings to find out where dan Quinn is going,
Speaker 1: much like dan Quinn's probably waiting to see where's Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers going. Has anyone had started the argument with dan
Speaker 1: Quinn that his success in the NFC East was because
Speaker 1: of the horribleness of the offenses, that he went again,
Speaker 1: Oh no, don't do that, No, no, no, I'm just
Speaker 1: asking if we don't if we win and the NFC
Speaker 1: East and we're saying that we're playing against B team players,
Speaker 1: can we not use the same argument against the defensive cordinery?
Speaker 1: You could, okay, but but then you have the factor
Speaker 1: in his track record. No, no, I'm talking about what
Speaker 1: he just he got fired mid season from one from
Speaker 1: one team, came here and now he's he's a top commodity.
Speaker 1: I'm just asked to do those things go into the
Speaker 1: equation as well. There's there are guys that have coached
Speaker 1: Exammer that you're talking about this had success as a coordinator.
Speaker 1: You can't take that away from them. So how do
Speaker 1: you factor in that. I would I would throw into
Speaker 1: that argument. The only thing I would want to bring
Speaker 1: up as well is even in the losses against big teams,
Speaker 1: did the defense play well in Kansas City? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: they totally did. Did the defense play well against Arizona
Speaker 1: in Week seventeen for the most part enough to win
Speaker 1: enough to get the job done? Did they play well
Speaker 1: enough against San Francisco to get a win if your
Speaker 1: offense is remotely okay? Yeah, Like, even in those games,
Speaker 1: he still did the job to a level that you
Speaker 1: expected he did, and the turnaround was remarkable. But Tax's point,
Speaker 1: I mean there were issues. They leaked big plays. They
Speaker 1: leaked big plays at times in the past. Game run,
Speaker 1: game yards after catch I think was tops in the
Speaker 1: league against them. So it wasn't perfect, But what from
Speaker 1: what they were a year ago to where they are now?
Speaker 1: And you have to credit players on the field too.
Speaker 1: Micael Parsons is a big part of that. Trayvon digs
Speaker 1: a big part of that. Um. I will give DQ
Speaker 1: credit for bringing it all together though. Yeah, and we've
Speaker 1: kind of put that on there as well. Do you
Speaker 1: believe that that's the case, No, Pok, like you have
Speaker 1: to you have to take that into consideration. You absolutely
Speaker 1: have to. You want to talk about how bad the
Speaker 1: nfcast is, you have to talk about, Okay, about his
Speaker 1: success against them versus other teams. I get it, But
Speaker 1: I do believe that he performed well enough to put
Speaker 1: his teams in position to win ball games. Defense, obviously,
Speaker 1: the run defense wasn't where it needed to be. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, guys gotta they gotta drop.
Speaker 1: They gotta drop the dropped a minute section, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and be able to stop the ball lost
Speaker 1: Brent Urban. People don't talk about that enough. That was
Speaker 1: a major loss, major loss um. Obviously, Gallimore came a
Speaker 1: long way. Also, Digazoua did it a good job coming
Speaker 1: a long way. I feel like this guys still left
Speaker 1: a lot on the table. I think they left a
Speaker 1: lot on the table. They're not We brought in, We
Speaker 1: brought in an offseason acquisition to stop the run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he got hurt. Yeah. Now, now you like to
Speaker 1: have more guy behind him, But the reality is he
Speaker 1: was our Chris Jones. He was our big boy in
Speaker 1: the middle that you know what I'm saying, That really
Speaker 1: just shut things down and he got hurt. I want
Speaker 1: you to just be able to clarify this. You're not
Speaker 1: comparing to No, no, no, no, no, he's ours ours.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to you sure I didn't. I could
Speaker 1: have said I could have said, whatever, Rady, he's our version. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that role, that position, not the player, not the player
Speaker 1: of that position at all. But but when you think
Speaker 1: about Dan Quinning, you have to take into account his history.
Speaker 1: Why is he still a highly touted guy. He's not
Speaker 1: highly touted simply because of what he just did this year.
Speaker 1: He's outside because his history says so. He led his
Speaker 1: team to the dog on Super Bowl in atl Onufourtune
Speaker 1: was one of the worst losses in history of the football.
Speaker 1: But guess what they got to the game, something that
Speaker 1: this the organization hasn't done in a very long time.
Speaker 1: He got that organization there. You go back, why did
Speaker 1: he get that opportunity to be the head coach in Atlanta? Well,
Speaker 1: he just happened to win a Super Bowl by being
Speaker 1: a decordinator in Seattle. So his his history shows him
Speaker 1: that he's consistent with this in terms of changing cultures,
Speaker 1: in terms of highlighting players and getting guys in position
Speaker 1: to make plays. He elevates the play of guys, just
Speaker 1: like everybody talks about Jordan. Jordan elevated the play of guys.
Speaker 1: Lebron scores more points, has all these different stays. But
Speaker 1: guess what, he doesn't elevate the play of guys, right,
Speaker 1: So that's the difference. Okay, So dan Quinn and everywhere
Speaker 1: he's went, he's had good defenses, he's elevated his play
Speaker 1: of guys, and guys have become superstars simply because they've
Speaker 1: been in position to make plays and he's gave them
Speaker 1: the confidence to do so. And any team that's going
Speaker 1: to hire dan Quinn is going to be excited about
Speaker 1: getting dan question because of the exactly what you just said,
Speaker 1: the resume, the caliber, and the person that he is
Speaker 1: and the kind of players coach that he is. They
Speaker 1: will be excited to have him in their locker room.
Speaker 1: So credit to him, credit to what he's built. But
Speaker 1: also this could either be a great thing or an
Speaker 1: extremely scary thing for Cowboys fans is that if dan
Speaker 1: Quinn's not available, whoever is the defensive coordinator heading in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two because of the free agents, because
Speaker 1: of the holes on that defense, they're going to have
Speaker 1: an instant opportunity to leave their stamp on that defense
Speaker 1: moving into this next season, which could either be terrifying
Speaker 1: or it could be a good thing. Who knows, depending
Speaker 1: on who that candidate ultimately ends up being. All Right.
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Speaker 1: having some fun here. Hey, it's nice to smile again. Goodness,
Speaker 1: smile smile again. All right? Should the overtime rules be
Speaker 1: changed in the NFL. That's a huge topic of conversation. Now,
Speaker 1: oh man, the Cowboys haven't necessarily fallen victim to this,
Speaker 1: but certainly the Bills did this past weekend. I feel
Speaker 1: so bad for Josh Allen. He never got a shot anything.
Speaker 1: And that's really kind of the opera or the conversation.
Speaker 1: The single game of the Chiefs and the Bills shouldn't
Speaker 1: be enough to change the rule. However, the changing of
Speaker 1: the rules should be the fact that ten out of
Speaker 1: eleven teams that have won the coin toss have won
Speaker 1: the football game throughout this season or I can't remember
Speaker 1: exactly when that When did it used to be? It
Speaker 1: used to be sudden death? Who score? Yeah, field goal
Speaker 1: wins it. So they have tried to adjust to adjusted it,
Speaker 1: but it's still not enough. It's still not giving both
Speaker 1: teams an equal opportunity. But at that point when does
Speaker 1: it in? I was gonna say, don't you think TV
Speaker 1: probably factors into this a little bits in the regular season? Yes,
Speaker 1: and I don't really I'm okay with if you wanted
Speaker 1: to compromise of just keeping the regular season the same
Speaker 1: and then the postseason at least allows an opportunity for
Speaker 1: a team to get back and forth. But again it
Speaker 1: goes into the question of when does it stop. Let's
Speaker 1: just say this, the Kansas City game was the only
Speaker 1: game that you saw that you said, man, this they
Speaker 1: to change the rules because it was an instant classic
Speaker 1: that you did not want to see. Stop. Yes, but
Speaker 1: it has to stop. It's like I tell my kids,
Speaker 1: the rules are the rules for a reason, and that's
Speaker 1: why we have them. But I understand, like we're trying
Speaker 1: to make pro football into college football, and if the
Speaker 1: scheme is going to change to more of a college football,
Speaker 1: let's let's do the same thing. If they did that,
Speaker 1: or if they put on the twenty five and just go,
Speaker 1: that would actually be awesome. I love college football. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's what everybody is clamoring for us.
Speaker 1: So let's do it. Here's here's the ball in the
Speaker 1: fifty yard line like the xfail and just freaking go
Speaker 1: at it. That's the thing that I want to talk about, though,
Speaker 1: is because you mentioned at some point it's got to
Speaker 1: end rules or rules. That's fine, but why is a
Speaker 1: coin toss deciding ten out of eleven games that's the biggest.
Speaker 1: It takes no skill whatsoever to walk up and say, heads,
Speaker 1: oh we got it. Let's take the let's win this
Speaker 1: football game to fair tales, by the way, because it
Speaker 1: never fails. I agree completely to be fair. I mean,
Speaker 1: you still gotta go. You still have to go out
Speaker 1: there and play defense, right, I mean if you get
Speaker 1: a field goal and then you get the ball back
Speaker 1: and you go out there and score touchdown games over you.
Speaker 1: So I think that the overtime rules are actually relatively good.
Speaker 1: Is just that when you face these explosive offenses like that,
Speaker 1: it just sucks and your gased at the end, and
Speaker 1: both of those defenses played out done. What would you
Speaker 1: what would you submit to change? Would you go the
Speaker 1: full fifteen minutes and then then what what if it's
Speaker 1: still tied? I would I liked that idea that that
Speaker 1: had been thrown out. I was trying to find the list.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them. But yeah, play ten minutes,
Speaker 1: play a quarter. It's the closest thing to real football
Speaker 1: to try and decide a winner. That's that's my thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at soccer. Soccer does it that way,
Speaker 1: and soccer is not perfect either way. The penalty kicks
Speaker 1: and whatever. But going on, But soccer is a two
Speaker 1: hour game, no commercials, ten minute halftime, and it's a
Speaker 1: lot more TV friendly. It's the reason why I didn't
Speaker 1: play soccer. So it's a big talking about hockey. It's
Speaker 1: so cool. Playing a ten minute game of overtime wouldn't
Speaker 1: be TV friendly. That's it's my thing. TV friendly. A
Speaker 1: ten minute overtime period where each team gets an extra
Speaker 1: time out and they went to it that way and
Speaker 1: nobody scores, then what then? What? Then? What do you do?
Speaker 1: Then you go back to sudden death and then people
Speaker 1: are still fit and it's a four hour game. I
Speaker 1: think the rules are pretty dark. Penalty kicks. Let's just
Speaker 1: get both field goal units out there and just kick
Speaker 1: field goals until you lose. You just have to stop
Speaker 1: that first drive. And then doesn't Josh Allen have the
Speaker 1: number Buffalo Bills? They didn't number one? What are they
Speaker 1: on the defense? They were last yea Leslie Frasier, Yeah, defense, Hey,
Speaker 1: just squip the kick the squip kick the ball, So
Speaker 1: give it to Mahomes at the twenty five, mamie, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with no time off the clock. So that's where they
Speaker 1: messed up my opinion. Don't don't agree if you didn't
Speaker 1: want to give him a short field either though, who
Speaker 1: was returning? If it's a squid, it doesn't really matter,
Speaker 1: right and it don't if you do it it, don't
Speaker 1: kick it to the wrong person. He will squib into
Speaker 1: the house. Who's old boy from Mchanse City back in
Speaker 1: the day before Tyreek Hill? Oh God, I can't think
Speaker 1: of his name, but yeah, who is he? It was
Speaker 1: the Tyree Hill before Tyree Hill. I know he went
Speaker 1: to Florida State return man. Somebody got to know it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Ber you know who it is? Not Peter Warred, No, no,
Speaker 1: before Peter Ward. Now he was cold blooded. Anyways, you
Speaker 1: just abod like him, or even if it was Tyreek Hillbeck, Yes,
Speaker 1: you get somebody like that the ball or Tyree. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Tyreek might have been back there returning
Speaker 1: to the gig man. You see what he did on
Speaker 1: the return Oh my gosh, I don't know. So you
Speaker 1: guys would not change the overtime rules. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's a domino that it just sucks? It's a snowball
Speaker 1: that goes all the way through. Your defense has to
Speaker 1: just step up in that first series and hold him
Speaker 1: to a field goal. Yeah, it's all you can ask.
Speaker 1: That's all you ask is did your defense I need
Speaker 1: just don't let these boys score. And that's a lot
Speaker 1: to ask. That's my one thing, though, is is this
Speaker 1: day and age, offense is rule. That's the case. Teams
Speaker 1: win to themes off of offenses until they don't get
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Okay, well, I guess you could change it
Speaker 1: and say both teams get a chance for both teams
Speaker 1: get a possession and then it's sudden death. But I
Speaker 1: you could do that. Yeah, they already tried to adjust
Speaker 1: it once, so I really don't have that much of
Speaker 1: a problem with it. Remember it, it sucks for Josh
Speaker 1: Allen first time, just the first time, because the Saints
Speaker 1: beat the Vikings. I remember it was Brett Farve that
Speaker 1: was sitting on the sideline watching the Saints won the
Speaker 1: game with the field goal, and they change the rule
Speaker 1: because you know, God forbid, Brett Farve didn't have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to touch the ball exactly. So I mean, like
Speaker 1: I think you, the most fans in the NFL are
Speaker 1: like you. They want to see both quarterbacks have an
Speaker 1: opportunity in a situation like that in over time, the
Speaker 1: rules stipulate that, hey, you score a touchdown, it's over.
Speaker 1: So it puts the onus on your defense, and we
Speaker 1: cannot separate Josh Allen from his defense. The Whales lost.
Speaker 1: What if you kept the rules the same except you
Speaker 1: had to score eight points to automatically, it would be fun.
Speaker 1: That would be fun, So then you would you would
Speaker 1: have the same rules. But it's the first to eight.
Speaker 1: So then you you you go all the way down
Speaker 1: the field, you score a touchdown, will guess what, it's
Speaker 1: not over? Then you got to turn around and score
Speaker 1: two point conversion. And if not, then you get the
Speaker 1: ball right back. How much you have a sudden death
Speaker 1: on the f the yard line? You put the ball
Speaker 1: and all your kickers have to go out there and
Speaker 1: make it greg the leg go do it. I read
Speaker 1: a suggestion that the ball teams would get the ball,
Speaker 1: the first team could kick a field goal or kick
Speaker 1: the extra point. The second team had to go for two.
Speaker 1: Now we're trending into like arena league story here, but
Speaker 1: it's fun. You want to get even more arena league.
Speaker 1: Here's another Oh I've had all weekend to think about this,
Speaker 1: sitting here waiting on this to happen. What about this one?
Speaker 1: Whatever team wins the coin toss gets to choose where
Speaker 1: the ball starts, or like where the drive starts. You
Speaker 1: spot the ball, and then the other team gets to
Speaker 1: choose whether they receive or they kick. So you could
Speaker 1: put it at the one yard line, but then the
Speaker 1: other team gets to receive it. I'm telling you there's
Speaker 1: some gadgety things you could do with all this. But
Speaker 1: you want to put it at the fifty maybe? Or
Speaker 1: do you want to put it at the twenty? Where
Speaker 1: were you when you were coming up with you? Thought
Speaker 1: about this when he was on a toilet drinking. Definitely
Speaker 1: on the toilet. He was on a toilet. He looked
Speaker 1: at it right, he didn't see no toilet tissue. He
Speaker 1: look behind him to see no baby watching, said shit,
Speaker 1: my phone, that dog? I mean, how's you call it?
Speaker 1: Spot the ball? Have some fun with it, all right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about these championship games. Cowboys unfortunately not a
Speaker 1: part of it. Team that beat the Cowboys arms. They
Speaker 1: will be taking on the La Rams in the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game. Who you guys got in that one? We'll
Speaker 1: start with you, Isaiah, just in that game. Yeah, San Francisco, La, La, La.
Speaker 1: I've been saying LA for me. You have been on
Speaker 1: that bandwagon for a while, even back when they were struggling,
Speaker 1: you said LA and Casey baby, who you think? Man?
Speaker 1: Shanahan lives rent free in mcveigh's head man all day long.
Speaker 1: He owns him six six in a row. I believe
Speaker 1: what's going and he had They spotted him seventeen points
Speaker 1: last time at home and still had more forty nine
Speaker 1: of fans in the building. They don't even have a
Speaker 1: home field advantage in this situation. I'm going with Shanahan.
Speaker 1: I just think that I believe the forty nine is
Speaker 1: gonna Did you see the defensive line of LA. I did.
Speaker 1: Did you see the defensive line of San Francisco? It
Speaker 1: was lady ever, replay ever, replay and von Miller couple.
Speaker 1: This is why we're here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris brings
Speaker 1: up a great point. He still came back in that game.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Still Tom Brady, I hear you. But he's gonna. Uh.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about the fact that the
Speaker 1: LA was limiting ticket sales to the Greater LA Area
Speaker 1: for a split second, they were like, yeah, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna keep it regionalized in our sales. And
Speaker 1: then did they They did that for a for a
Speaker 1: hot second, and then they I think the NFL probably
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, you hit it, so they
Speaker 1: opened it right back up. But they put out him
Speaker 1: traveling who you got. I'm gonna take the Rams as well.
Speaker 1: I just think going back to the final week of
Speaker 1: the regular season, you mentioned the spotting of seventeen, they
Speaker 1: let off the gas. I think the Rams are a
Speaker 1: better team all the way through, and I think they're
Speaker 1: on a mission. For Matthew Stafford, for Sean McVeigh, for
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and company, I think all those guys are
Speaker 1: on a mission. OBJ has been playing really well. I
Speaker 1: just think they're more explosive and being Even though it's
Speaker 1: going to be a probably a sixty forty Rams crowd,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a true home field advantage.
Speaker 1: I still think there are you factoring in Deebo Samuels
Speaker 1: debo is great, but he's also banged up a little bit.
Speaker 1: George Kittle was banged up in that game. Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: is not as good of a quarterback as Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: even on any day of the week. McVeigh doesn't have
Speaker 1: a problem getting his guys the ball now, doesn't. Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup is a legitimate monster. You can't take away all
Speaker 1: their weapons now and they get all the way as
Speaker 1: a ball. I can't believe I've rattled off all those
Speaker 1: names and I didn't mention Cooper Cup for cam Akers Higbee,
Speaker 1: Uh you got Cup, Jefferson O b J. Pick your poison,
Speaker 1: their ballers, all of them, I honestly I think, and
Speaker 1: I'll put this out there now. If the Rams win
Speaker 1: this game, I'd picked them over the AFC team, even
Speaker 1: if it's the Chief, I still would do that. I'm
Speaker 1: saying it right now. I would do it no kind
Speaker 1: of with you, like I've been on them too, dependent
Speaker 1: on how Stafford plays. When he plays well, I think
Speaker 1: they can honestly beat anybody, and I think I think
Speaker 1: they're due. I think they're due to win this game.
Speaker 1: But heck could be right, because we very well may
Speaker 1: look at it next week and say the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers were this year's team that got hot at the
Speaker 1: right time and surprised everybody. Compared to your giants, Giant.
Speaker 1: They do have that formula, and that's honestly what the
Speaker 1: Bucks did last shoot him up. I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get you, I gets you to a certain point.
Speaker 1: But I just think La La traded away their entire
Speaker 1: future kids. It's to acquire all these players, and this
Speaker 1: is why they did it. They truly have everything they are.
Speaker 1: Stafford doesn't give the ball away if he doesn't get
Speaker 1: a ball, or they're dropping balls and are fumbling balls.
Speaker 1: So who are you picking? I'm picking the Rams, picking
Speaker 1: the Rams too. Okay, what about the AFC Bengals in
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Yeah, I'm taking the Chiefs all the way.
Speaker 1: I think they're on a mission again too. Yeah, Chris
Speaker 1: Jones is going to show up in this game. But
Speaker 1: you whoa what it's a twins in there. I saw it. Well, no, no,
Speaker 1: not really. I think it was just thinking, yeah a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, you can't discount what Joey Burrow
Speaker 1: is doing right now. He's awesome. But him and Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase Spoth, but heck mentioned the nine sacks, and I
Speaker 1: just think back to when the Cowboys went up there
Speaker 1: and Chris Jones just wrecked the game. I just think
Speaker 1: I just think it ends. Here's a great run for Cincy.
Speaker 1: Fantastic of my childhood. Ikey was and Cherry Rice in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I mean first Super Bowl. I remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: people about the same age, right, yeah, no, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: going okay, but first game I remember, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but that would be good. I mean, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna being crazy here. And the last time I said that,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati one, Oh, pick them, they're not beating pick them.
Speaker 1: You were different on the NFC. They beat Kansas City
Speaker 1: already three weeks ago. They beat that in a regular season. Yes,
Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke either, Cincinnati. I think I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: two on the ten on this one. I'm gonna pick
Speaker 1: the catch up. Boys ain't going Oh yeah, you switch
Speaker 1: its corso that whole thing. Oh man, Well that's gonna
Speaker 1: do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. A great
Speaker 1: note to end on, hope you enjoy the week of football.
Speaker 1: We're right there with you, Cowboys Nation. We wish the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were a part of it as well, but we
Speaker 1: will still love to watch some football this weekend, and
Speaker 1: we'll have some fun to talk about it next week.
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