1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Wow, what a privilege it is to be joined, Miguil, 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: turn your camera the other way, my friend, let. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Me see what I can do right here. Okay, we're good. 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: Wow, Malthuia, what a house? 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 4: What a casa? 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: It's just a man case. It's not the whole house. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 5: I Bragg doing the Zool meetings here so everybody can 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 5: see the good stuff. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: But it's not it's not like that on the whole house. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Miguil Rojas, a multi time World Series champion, of course, 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: trying to do the three peat with the Los Angeles Dodgers, 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: A longtime big league veteran, said that twenty twenty six 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: is going to be his final year and then he'll 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: transition into a role with the Dodgers' front office. Miguel, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: good to have you on the show. We're going to 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: get to all the Dodgers stuff in a second, but 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: I really wanted to talk to you about the situation 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: with the World Baseball Classic. Obviously, you are Venezuelan. You 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: would love to play for Team Venezuela, but you're not 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: able to because of an age issue. Tell us more 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: about the situation itself and what you're hearing about about 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: this specific rule. 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, the situation is been uh, nothing but confusing and 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 5: and it's been kind of a problem for for the 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: players that are being denied to play just because of 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 5: the an insurance problem. I guess it's something that we 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 5: didn't have really clear going into this year. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Knowing what happened in the past. 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 5: We all knew the organizations and and kind of the 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: insurance work kind of together with MLB and the WBC 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 5: UH commitment or whatever they have to uh to control 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 5: all the players coming in and that the team submitting 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: the rosters, and definitely we know when there's an injury 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: issue and injury related uh kind of deal. 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: Uh. The insurance always worked with that. But now now 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: in my case, I think I've been pretty healthy the 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: last couple of years, other than in twenty twenty four 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: when I have to. 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 5: Take care of and hernia, a sports hernia on my hips. 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 5: Other than that, I haven't missed games because of an injury. 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: So now I heard just a month from from today 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 5: that if I'm thirty seven years old, the insurance company 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: that works with US WBC and MLB is not gonna 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 5: be able to get insure h the players that are 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 5: thirty seven years and older. So that's something that I 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 5: didn't know, and that was kind of like thrown out 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: to me when when it was like a month from 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 5: the from the WC to start, and it was kind 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: of frustrating to know the news at that time and 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: couldn't do anything about it. 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 6: Maggie, did you tell me you retiring at the end 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 6: of the year, and like they don't to ensure you 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 6: for multiple years? Like this is it, man, I want 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: to go out play for my country one last time. 55 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 6: If I get hurt, then I get hurt. But it's 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 6: my last year. It's not like you have a five 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 6: year deal they have to cover. That's literally you know 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: this year, Like you got to get this figured out. 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you're saying all the things that I was 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: trying to say to them, and and that's one of 61 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: the things that I got me frustrated because I'm not 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 5: making I mean, with all due respect, I'm not a 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: thirty thirty million. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: Dollars guide, you know, I'm just making five million dollars. 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 5: And how how hard it is to to insure. 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: And protect a guy that is making five million dollars. 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: And I understand, I totally understand the Dodgers now signing 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 5: my waiver because I mean, we all know where the 69 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: Doyers are on the on the tax cracket, and if 70 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 5: something happened to me during the WBC or to any 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: player that is thirty years thirty seven years and older, 72 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 5: and the Dollyers say, Okay, I'm gonna sign the waiver 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 5: for this guy to play without an insurance, They're not 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: gonna get their money back to sign another player in 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: the middle of the year. So I totally understand the 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: doll You're saying, we can let you play without an insurance, 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: and I totally understand that part, but I feel like 78 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 5: like you're saying, I'm everybody knows that I'm retiring after 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 5: this year and I'm not making thirty million dollars or 80 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 5: twenty five million dollars for them to kind of like 81 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: really look into this coverage. But I kind of understand 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: that that's what they're gonna do. But I hope, uh, 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: they're doing the same thing for every country and for everybody, 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: because it's I don't I don't think this this tournament 85 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: is gonna go anywhere if they're gonna continue to make 86 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 5: it harder for players to go. 87 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that that was gonna be my question, 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 4: do you feel like it's the same for every country? 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: The only reason I say that and I didn't play 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: in the WBC. I played for Team USA when I 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: was thirty nine years old in twenty nineteen, and I wasn't. 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: It was, you know, not big league forty man guys. 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: But there's gonna be a superstar of Venezuelan who wants 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: to play for his country after thirty seven. Thirty seven 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: is not that old. Sorry, it's it's not that old. 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: There's going to be others. So you're gonna deny superstars 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: when they get to that spot. You're gonna deny Aaron 98 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 4: Judge the next time he gets to WBC at thirty 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: seven years old. I have a hard time believing that, Maggie. 100 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: Same thing. 101 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: That's that's why I'm so frustrated, because I don't I 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 5: don't think that's gonna happen with someone else. That that 103 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: is just me, And I'm not fining these this this 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 5: fight right now because of myself. 105 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm fighting for everybody else. And you know, as a player, 106 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: we always fight for the rise of the next ones. 107 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: And that's why we're here in this moment right now, 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: and we have to kind of like fight this battle 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: just because the next generation is gonna come and they 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: would like to play when they're thirty seven or older. 111 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: Because I totally feel like if I'm if. 112 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 5: I'm on the roster for the Dodgers and I can 113 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 5: help the Doyers play and win a championship when I'm 114 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 5: thirty six thirty seven years old, why I can't really 115 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: go and help of my country to get the championship 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: on a competition like that. It's my only opportunity to 117 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: kind of represent my country and put this uniform on, 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: and like I'm making a statement. A few days ago, 119 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: I didn't really know if I was going to be 120 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: part of the thirty main roster. 121 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: All I wanted was to make. 122 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 5: Myself available for the manager and the front office guys 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 5: from the Venezuelan team to tell the man, I'm available 124 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 5: if you guys need me, either in the first round 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 5: or if someone get hurt, like. 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: It happens the last time with Hotel Tube. 127 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 5: He got hurt and they called me and I was 128 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: in Arizona, and if they beat the United States, I 129 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: was playing in the semi finals in Miami. So that's 130 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 5: the only reason why I wanted to make myself available 131 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 5: because I know I'm in death with the Venezuelan country, 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 5: especially because I have to step out of the last 133 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 5: tournament because of obvious reasons of playing short stuff for 134 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 5: the Dodgers, and I was just getting traded Gavin Lots 135 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 5: his injury, and they didn't want me to go and 136 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 5: play for Venezuela when knowing that I wasn't gonna get. 137 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: An off of bats to get ready for the full season. 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: So there's a lot going on to go to this tournament, 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: and I totally understand the guys stepping out because they 140 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: wanted some time off. They playing the in the like 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: a full war series, like Mookie Bats or Freddie Freeman. 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: They need time off. 143 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: They have personal matters like Osera Meres, things like that, 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: and it's really hard to understand how they're gonna continue 145 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: with this event if they don't let the people who 146 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: want to go participate. 147 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: Have you looked at alternative or not just you, but 148 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 4: have people looked at alternative insurance methods that would enable 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: you and make the Dodgers feel okay with letting you play. 150 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, we we had, and the Union is being supportive 151 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 5: of the idea of finding an alternative insurance. But the 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: problem was it was so late, and I don't know. 153 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 5: I don't want to point fingers to anybody. I don't 154 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 5: know if it was a bi organization or everything was 155 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 5: led like to the last minute to kind of like. 156 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Get on top of this issue. 157 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: But we didn't have the form that we have to 158 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: fill out like two weeks prior to today, so it 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 5: happens too late. 160 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: I felt like, if that was going. 161 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: To be an issue, they should have let us know 162 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 5: in advance, or like maybe last year they say, okay, look, 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: this is going to be a problem if you have 164 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: a player that is thirty seven years older. You guys 165 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 5: are going to have to file this hipA form that 166 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 5: they have to sign so we can find them another 167 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: insurance company to cover them just for the tournament. 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: But it was too late and they couldn't find another one, and. 169 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: They just say, you know what, your permission has been denied. 170 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: That sucks. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry, really sorry. 171 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 6: I hope it works out for you and for everyone 172 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 6: that's trying to do this, because it's not just you, 173 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 6: Lindor and some of the other guys. I mean, listen 174 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 6: to Edwin Diaz can play than anyone should be able 175 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 6: to play, because he is the poster child of getting 176 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 6: hurt and costing people, you know, a season. 177 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: So I hope it works out. 178 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 6: I want to go to some a little more fun 179 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 6: besides insurance, because we've talked about insurance for three days, okay, 180 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 6: and I'm just tired of talking about insurance. And I'm 181 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 6: happy you came on to discuss this. But in your career, 182 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 6: do you know how many home runs you've hit? 183 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: Closer to I'm close to sixty right. 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, fifty seven? 185 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: Okay, right, but you hit the biggest, not the biggest, 186 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 6: bill one of the probably two biggest home runs in Dodgers' 187 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 6: postseason history this past year. Do you wake up still 188 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 6: and say that was me that hit that home run? 189 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 6: Like I actually hit that home run to win US 190 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 6: a World Series? 191 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: Guess what AGG just said it? 192 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 5: I had fifty something home runs in a twelve year career, 193 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 5: and now I'm going to remember as a home roun hitter. 194 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: How crazy is that? 195 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: Right? 196 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: So I've been kind of putting my whole life and 197 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 5: a whole career on difference and being a different first 198 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: guy to be able to play short stuff for anything, 199 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 5: that I'm on, but definitely having this moment, it's kind 200 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 5: of like the answer of all my prayers because I've 201 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 5: been wanting a big moment in. 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: My whole career. 203 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 5: I think in my whole career, I have to walk 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 5: off hits one maybe one basit and one sack fly 205 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: or something like that. And I always kind of like 206 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: wanted to come through in a big moment in my 207 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: career offensively because I definitely believe on myself and every 208 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: time I step on that play, I feel like I'm 209 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: the best. 210 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: Hittered out there. 211 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 5: But I never had that kind of moment, and it 212 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: kind of I mean, like I said, my preparation kind 213 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 5: of meet up with the opportunity right there to play 214 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 5: in Game six and Game seven, and you know how 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: it is, you can be on the bench all this 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 5: time and it takes just one opportunity to change the 217 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: narrative of everything in your career. 218 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: So that's something that kind of kicking Hernandez. 219 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 5: Always talk about, and that's why he is huge in 220 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 5: the post season, is because it doesn't matter what you 221 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: do during the regular season or how have you done 222 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: in the post season, all you need is one moment 223 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 5: for people to. 224 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Remember you for the rest of their life. 225 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 5: And now I'm just extremely happy and excited that I'm 226 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: going to be remember as as. 227 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: A home row hitter in the World Series for the 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: rest of my life. 229 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 4: Home run hitter, Mike Rojas, I love that, But I 230 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: want you to go into the dugout with us, because 231 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh, after you hit it, how did you 232 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: feel all that stuff as a guy that came off 233 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: the bench, as a guy that came in maybe like 234 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 4: late for defense. I know that the manager, the hitting coach, 235 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 4: the bench coach is kind of like looking like, oh, 236 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: air Crafts is coming up, like maybe we could pinch 237 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: hit and get How close were you to not getting 238 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: that at bat because you guys still had some guys 239 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: on the bench. There was Lefty, you know, Rod Vett 240 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 4: I think was still on the bench. 241 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 5: Correct, King King was on the bench, had some king 242 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 5: was on the bench, was on the bench. 243 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: On the bench. 244 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: How close did you feel like, because you can feel 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: when people are like looking at you like, hey, uh, 246 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: if something happens, Miggy, like you gotta like we might 247 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: pinch it for you or was that you're at bat bar? 248 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: None, no matter what happened. 249 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: No, I got surprised when I walked to the to 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: the on deck circle. I didn't. I I thought for 251 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: sure I was gonna get pinched it. 252 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm never gonna get 253 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: myself off of of data bag until the dog tuged 254 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 5: me in the shoulder or tell me like or or 255 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: he sent the bench coach to tell me like when I'm. 256 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: Like taking my stuff off. 257 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: But as soon as I got to the dog out, 258 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 5: when I put my glove down and Danny Leman, our 259 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 5: bench coach, wasn't there, that tells me everything that I 260 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: needed to know. I knew I was getting that bad 261 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: because one good thing about Dog and the organization, especially 262 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: the coaching staff and with the Dodgers, they're they're really 263 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 5: great because they're transparent as it is. You know, they're 264 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 5: gonna tell you what's your role, what they expected of you, 265 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 5: and if they have to put you out and put 266 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: someone else in, they will do it. And they always 267 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: send Danny. During the season, I got pinched maybe. 268 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: A hundred times for someone else, and I was totally 269 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: expecting for them if they want to make a move. 270 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Even though I got a good at bad. 271 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 5: Early in the game against Chercer, and I think my 272 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: third about was a really quality about as well. So 273 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 5: I felt like dog got a feeling that I was 274 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: getting closer because my advats were getting better, especially after 275 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: not playing for a long time. 276 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: And I didn't get one a bat in the NLCS. 277 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: Then as soon as I put my glove down and 278 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: I sent my heart on top of my glove, no 279 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 5: one was there. 280 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: I was getting that a bat. 281 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: So my mentality went straight to, Okay, what I need 282 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: to look for against this guy. I'm gonna look fastible 283 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 5: away first first pitch because I got a hit against 284 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: Chersey with a hanging slider, so I don't think he 285 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna throw me like a hitter. Go slider 286 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 5: in the first in the first pitch, so also looking 287 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: fastile away, and you see the results. I chased the 288 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 5: slider down in a way. But then I think that 289 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: that pitch kind of like locked me in for the 290 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: rest of it. 291 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: I love it, I love I love how you're building. 292 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: You're a path. 293 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 6: Can we show those pictures again for what? And I 294 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 6: just want to know when you touched home plate, who 295 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: was there waiting for you show? Did you look at 296 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 6: him and say show, hey, that's how superstars do it 297 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: in the world. Eat that one, show Hey, because look, 298 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 6: look there's a swing right now. Watch when you're round it. First, 299 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: show Hayes in the background. Now when you there, look 300 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 6: show Hayes with his hands up behind you. Then you 301 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: hit home plate and show Hayes there to get a 302 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 6: high five. Was there like right there? Or were you 303 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 6: like that's how it's done. 304 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: Show Hey. 305 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 6: You might make seventy million, but my five million hit 306 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 6: that Homer. 307 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: Not kidding, not kidding to you. 308 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: I just I just feel good for show He because 309 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 5: the last thing you want right there in that situation, 310 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: knowing how the game was and how a special show 311 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: has been for us and everything that he's going through 312 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: this last couple of years, kind of carrying. 313 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Us in so many different ways. 314 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: Man, during the regular season this twenty twenty five, pitching 315 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 5: and hitting at the same time. 316 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: With that game, a lot of things came to my mind. 317 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: Know, when I'm rounding the bases, I'm thinking about my family, 318 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 5: I'm thinking about my wife. I'm thinking about like the 319 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: possibility of winning the World Series now because. 320 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: We just tied the game. 321 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 5: But when I got to home play, I see show 322 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 5: He and I see a sign of relief. So remember 323 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 5: Shohil Tony gave up a three round homer by Bobby 324 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: Check and he potentially beat the last hour of the 325 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: World Series. Ok, he is not It's not fair for 326 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: a guy like that, you know, Sholdani, He's been doing 327 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: so much for the game of baseball, and I feel 328 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 5: like the relief that I see on his face that 329 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. 330 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: What he doing that at bad. We already tie the game, 331 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: so we're going to find a way to win. 332 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: And I feel like that's that's a kind of like 333 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: the sensation that I have on show here ever since 334 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: I got all the videos online and all the pictures 335 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: that I see, Like when I see he sends up 336 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 5: and kind of like the relief that he doesn't have 337 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 5: to hit with two outs and down by one and 338 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: everybody expecting a home run from Show. He he's really 339 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 5: hard to get a home run in that situation. And 340 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 5: I mean, it happens to me, and I'm so I'm 341 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: so happy and proud. 342 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: That I could have get showed hair out of the 343 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: hand and in that game. 344 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Miguel, I've known you a long time. It's been a 345 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: pleasure to watch your career and I know you talked 346 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: so much about how much pride you take in defense, 347 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: and you had some really good defensive plays obviously in 348 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: the postseason too. I want to know what was going 349 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: on in your head with the I K the Isaiah 350 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Kiner Philefis situation. I mean, you guys were this close 351 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: to losing the World Series to a very good Toronto 352 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: Blue Jays team. Obviously you tied the game. We all 353 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: know what happened in extra innings, But what take me 354 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: through the lead that he had and what was going 355 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: on with you guys defensively on how to on how 356 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: to handle that? 357 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I didn't know that it was that close 358 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: to third base. It's impossible. It's impossible for me to kind. 359 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 5: Of like be so locked in on the play and 360 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 5: like take a look at the third base runner, right, 361 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 5: It's impossible to be locked locked in and on the 362 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: hitter and then making sure that the guy at third 363 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 5: base is not getting a good lead. So for me, 364 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: like the fact that he was that close to the bag, 365 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: it was a decision that they'd make as an organization, 366 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 5: and the coach kind of like went to him and 367 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: told him, Hey, this is where you have to be 368 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: and I'm I'm just seeing a player following instructions, right. 369 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 5: But to me, I feel like for the guys who 370 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 5: play in a and synthetic grass, you guys, how like 371 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: that ball bounds in that grass is different then in 372 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: a regular grass. And we we've been kind of struggling 373 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 5: in practice to take down balls infield in and the 374 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: ball wasn't even that far away from me. 375 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: It was a couple of steps, but kind. 376 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: Of like the way that he hit it the chopper 377 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: like it was like a toss spinner, like rining to 378 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: the ground, make me kind of go backwards on it 379 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 5: because I was gonna get like in in between half 380 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: and the most important part for me, I need to. 381 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: Glove this ball. 382 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: If I bowl, we're don't we We're losing the word series. 383 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: That's why I kind of like went back to it 384 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: a little bit. Then I kind of stumbled a little bit, 385 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: lose my footage, but I was able to kind of 386 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: plant my feet and make I think that the hardest 387 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: stroke that I make the whole year, uh to wheel And. 388 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: Then so as soon as I see the replay and 389 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 5: how close it was when he left is uh is 390 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: a clip off the play and put it back down. 391 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 5: He was kind of like nerve racking watching that, and 392 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 5: I still like dog say a couple a couple of 393 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: weeks ago, on an interview or something like that, he said, 394 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 5: I can't really really watch it because I'm I don't 395 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 5: want that play to get overturned, you know, I I 396 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 5: want to make sure that that we win the World. 397 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Series and and another. 398 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: Outcome is going to happen, because you know, like I 399 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 5: would have nimers still if I if I put a 400 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: ball or I don't get that home play, what. 401 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: Would have been which was tougher the end of game 402 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: six play that you had to bail Kik out for 403 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: that brutal throw that he made and made you make 404 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: a long hop, or that play. 405 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: That play for sure in game seven, because it's a 406 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 5: it's do or die and you know how it is. 407 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 5: You can't really mess this up. This is the one 408 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: that you practice every single day. You finish your routine. 409 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: You can take million grand balls, but when you put 410 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 5: in your mind, okay, basis loaded nine inning, two outs, 411 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: winning by one, you always want the last ground ball 412 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 5: to mean something to you. 413 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: And that's what we practice every single day. 414 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: And that's a little behind the scenes of what we 415 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 5: do every single day with the Dodgers, especially in mookie 416 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: transition into short stuff. But that's what we do. So 417 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 5: we take all our routines and then at the end 418 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 5: of the practice we always go okay, bases loaded one 419 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 5: Now winning Game size or Game five of the World Series. 420 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: We got to make this play and then if we 421 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: boot it, we lose the word series. And that's the 422 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 5: situation that you put yourself in into every time you 423 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: practice in And that's the reason why I feel like 424 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 5: that was the hardest play because I have no roule 425 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 5: forever if I boot up, if I book the ball, 426 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: that kick it through me. We got another opportunity with 427 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 5: glass on the mound to win the game. 428 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: But definitely that Game seven play, a. 429 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: Home play, would be forever the hardest play that that 430 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: I have to make. 431 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: You ain't kidding a lot of pressure. 432 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 6: You made a great throw, a lot of as big 433 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 6: of a Dodger fantasy. I always tell people the Blue 434 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 6: Jays were literally this far away from winning the World Series, 435 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 6: but you made the throw. You made the perfect throws. 436 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 6: I love everything you've said today. I want to ask 437 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: this and you can tell me to screw off. I'm 438 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 6: okay with it, but I got to know the answer 439 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 6: to this. Every time I've ever talked to you've been 440 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 6: unbelievably awesome. Okay, you've been a great interview. I've talked 441 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: to you when I've done Dodger games for Fox. You've 442 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 6: been unbelievable, always saying hello, always a smile on your face. 443 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 6: Every guy I look at and I've ever talked to 444 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 6: about you say you're like one of the best teammates, 445 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 6: you're one of the happy guys, and as somebody that's 446 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 6: had things said about me, and then you have. And 447 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: again you can say you don't want to talk about it. 448 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 3: I get it, But the. 449 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 6: Jazz chishm thing man, like, can we put the record 450 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 6: straight on this, because I've heard a million things, I've 451 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: never heard you say something about it, which honestly. 452 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: To me, is a badge of honor for you. 453 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 6: Because everyone I talk to about you say you're just 454 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: unbelievable and you don't want to get into it. 455 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: I just I feel like you need a before him. 456 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 6: And again, if you don't want to talk about it, 457 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 6: I get it, but it just drives me crazy because 458 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: every time people ask me about it, I'm like he 459 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: seems like an unbelievable dude. I don't know where this 460 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 6: came from. If you don't want to talk about it, 461 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: you want to move on, fine, But I just want 462 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 6: to give you an opportunity to clear the air if 463 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 6: you want on that. 464 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: No, I and I really appreciate that. 465 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 5: And as as I mean, the reason why a lot 466 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 5: of people talk good about me is because I don't. 467 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't let things that happen in the clubhouse outside 468 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: of that. 469 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: And I feel like I'd rather take the plane of 470 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: being the bad guy in the clubhouse then then come 471 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 5: in a in an opportunity like this and talk about 472 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: bad about someone I respect that I'm not gonna be 473 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: like likable by all the people. 474 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: And you guys were just talking about from about this, 475 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: right and the situation. 476 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 7: And uh Craft just make just make a great point 477 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 7: of like, depending on the circumstances and the situations that 478 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 7: you are in a in a season or in in 479 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 7: your life for your career, people gonna have their own 480 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 7: perspectives on you. 481 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 5: And I feel like my best, my best times has 482 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 5: been here with the Dodgers. And I mean maybe I 483 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 5: was a little bit more susceptible when I was there 484 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 5: with the Marlins, and maybe I was, I mean, a 485 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: different guy there. And the only thing that I will 486 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 5: say is I'm just hanging my heart on the comments 487 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: that more people than just one player said about me, 488 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: because I'm not gonna be liked by everybody, and I'm 489 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 5: not expecting to be the like the likable guy everywhere 490 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: I go because that's not what I want to be. 491 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 5: I want to be myself and I'm just gonna hang 492 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: my heart on the people that make the comments about 493 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: me that I'm I know there's more better comments than 494 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 5: one negatives coming, and I don't feel like I should 495 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 5: be kind of defending myself because then that would make 496 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: me like, Okay, this guy is trying to defend himself 497 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 5: because it is something wrong. 498 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: I just felt like I was being myself man, and 499 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna blame anybody 500 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: for not liking me. 501 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: Positives way outweigh the negatives. Brand around that as well. 502 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the jersey behind your 503 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: right shoulder, Megal with Jose Fernandez. Obviously, this is a 504 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: story that transcends not just baseball, but being a Cuban 505 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: American myself and you know, my mom having to leave 506 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Cuba and everything that the Fernandez family went through, and 507 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: of course the tragedy that befell him when he passed away. 508 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: What was it like being a teammate of his and 509 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: just what a what at a superstar in the making, 510 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: and and why is that Jersey important to you? 511 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, just just being around Jose and knowing the abilities 512 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: that he had and and the year that he was 513 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 5: kind of like facing at that time with his. 514 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: Girlfriend or or wife at the time, I don't I 515 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: don't remember they were married or not pregnant and expecting 516 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: the first child. 517 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 5: And I something that I remember about Jose and not 518 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: many people know, this is the last dinner that we 519 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 5: had together as a team. 520 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: So I remember Martin Praul was. 521 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: There, then Marcelo Sooner and kind of like his best 522 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 5: friends on the team plus plus Jose, and he was 523 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 5: talking about like how he wanted to be better for her, 524 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: you know, and how he wanted to kind of like 525 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 5: ma sure and get better as a human being and 526 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: over all. 527 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: You know, because he was young and he was playing 528 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: for the Miami Marlins for the Miami. 529 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 5: Marlins at the time, and he didn't know where his 530 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: future was going to be because he was about to 531 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 5: be a free agent and he was really excited for 532 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: the future. And that's something that kind of like really 533 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: impacts us when when that happened, because first first thing 534 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: you see from Jose is the talent, right, the kind 535 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: of the personality, how he put people in the on 536 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 5: the seats. Even here in Miami that we don't draw 537 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: many fans and big crowds, but every time he s pitched, 538 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 5: he was like a twenty five percent increase on fans 539 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: coming to the games, just because of the talent, the atmosphere, 540 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: the way that he he cared for the game, the 541 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: joy that he that he brought to the game. And 542 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 5: he was the same guy outside of the field, energetic guy, 543 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 5: He always want to be around his people, and I 544 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 5: think he was about to make his his move to 545 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: UH to like go to the next level. And that's 546 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 5: why it was so hard to see him go that 547 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 5: early in his life, and not just because of baseball, 548 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: it's because what he had behind him. 549 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: He was like his. 550 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 5: Family was his first child getting born and a totally 551 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 5: disaster for the organization definitely, because you're losing not just 552 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 5: your age and the face of your franchise. You're losing, 553 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: I mean, one of your your best persons that you 554 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: have in the team. 555 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: So it was it was really hard. 556 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 5: And that's why it means a lot that, uh that 557 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 5: I play with him, and I mean I got to 558 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: wear the number sixteen Fernandez jersey. 559 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: For one game for the wrong reason, definitely, but. 560 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 5: Uh, that's something that he was gonna is gonna unify 561 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: that team for the rest of our life. 562 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 4: That's awesome, that's well said. We have to ask two 563 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: last questions. On a lighter note, show us your two 564 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: favorite shoes from the collection, the two that you're like there, 565 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 4: this is this is it for me that everybody needs 566 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: to see. These are the two whether you've worn them 567 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 4: or you just like have a cool story with them. 568 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: Because I've just been oddling those shoes the whole time. 569 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, the thing with me with shoes I wear. 570 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: I wear all my pairs, but I feel. 571 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 8: Like again showing you, hmm, okay, I'm gonna show you. 572 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 5: Two pairs that are important to me because it's not 573 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 5: it's not just because I mean Michael Jordan, right, so 574 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 5: he played for the Chicago Bulls and this is an 575 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: iconic pair it means a lot because you always want 576 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 5: to be a champion and you always want kind of 577 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 5: like do what winners do. 578 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: So this pair is really important. 579 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: He's got the Chicago kind of framing and so his 580 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: signature is right here. And then this this pair calls 581 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: Trophy Room. So I mean, we all know he won 582 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 5: a lot of championships. And then I kind of like 583 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 5: have my own pair right here from being a champion, 584 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: he's a he's a pair of Jordan Force. And then 585 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: the company that I'm gonna be working on this year, 586 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 5: they make this pair for me. 587 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: So that's all we want. We want to be champions. 588 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 2: So he got a couple of things. 589 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: That kind of like resembled those back to back champions 590 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 5: the last couple of years. 591 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: That's that's so last one. And this is you did 592 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: an incredible job speaking English. It's a second language. You 593 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: did it. It's awesome. But this is something that people 594 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: don't know. Okay, Spanish speakers can never say my name 595 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: right because you said it during the show. You say 596 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: my last name, my last name is Kratz. Say my 597 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: last name Crats. Okay, when you guys talk, when Venezuelans 598 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: Dominicans not so much Puerto Ricans, but Venezuelan Dominicans when 599 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: they say it fast, they always say crap. And if 600 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 4: I'm on the team, they call me crappy. So you 601 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 4: said it during the interview, you said it. I just 602 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: wanted people to like kind of get in. It's all 603 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: Dominicans in Venezuelans, and it's one of those. 604 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 5: Things might be might be clip now, you know, because 605 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 5: you guys gotta clip that and say crappy, because that's 606 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: what I. 607 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: Was to say. 608 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: I was try to say katzi yeah, and he came out, 609 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: you know. 610 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: And and I would love it if people would clip 611 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: my Spanish because I know my seventy five Spanish words 612 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: and I am fluent in my Spanish, my baseball Spanish. 613 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: It's not it's not. It's not easy to be bilingual. 614 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: So I understand. I understand. 615 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 8: Miguel. 616 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, such great answer, such great information 617 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: and insight. You took so much of your time to 618 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: be honest and candidate, and we appreciate it. Go get 619 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: that third World Series championship in a real please. I 620 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: want nothing more than that for you. 621 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 8: Good luck you can take. 622 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 6: He's gonna take his Dodger gear off at some point, 623 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 6: like some point in his life, he's gotta take his 624 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 6: Dodger gear like you kids, eat, sleep and work out 625 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 6: in your Dodgers gear. 626 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna move on 627 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: at the end. 628 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: Of the year. 629 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: Don't don't worry. I'll be I'll be a retired player. 630 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: I'll be a retired player. And I can't wait not 631 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 5: to work out anymore and get ready for another season. 632 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: That's that's the worst. 633 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 5: That's the worst part of my year, getting ready for 634 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: for the full season. 635 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: I'd rather play all the games that you that that 636 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: you want me to play. 637 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 5: But working out and doing all this running and all 638 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 5: these form things, that's one song. That's one thing that 639 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to do. Just taking all this stuff 640 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: away and just grab a phone, go start phoning punge, 641 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 5: go out my kid and and BP to to my kids. 642 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome, Miguel, good luck. 643 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: We'll see you. 644 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna come down to camel back here in a 645 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: week and change, so we'll see you in the clubhouse. 646 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, my friend. 647 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: See you guys over there. Thank you