1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: The preseason is underway and training camps rolling on across 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. Josh Allen in the stadium tonight playing catch 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: with some Bills fans ahead of their practice event. The 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks and Sam Darnold are on the field, the Buccaneers 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: as well as the Giants. So much action, Let's cover 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: it over the next sixty minutes. Welcome inside with the insiders. 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: That is Judy Batista, that is Ian Rappaport, who is 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: outside that Bill's practice. I'm Tom Pillicero here in Tampa. 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: We will get to all the teams that we just 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: showed you, and a whole lot more. We find ourselves 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: thirty four days out from the regular season kickoff game 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: between the Cowboys and Eagles, and now we have some 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: new questions about whether Micah Parsons is even going to 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: be there. Earlier today, Michaeh Parsons announcing in a statement 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: on social media that he has personally requested a trade 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: away from the Dallas Cowboys. This following months of on 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: and mostly off negotiations between Parsons and the team. He 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: showed up at the start of training camp. You can 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: see in that video he has been engaged, but as 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: he wrote on social media. Unfortunately, I no longer want 21 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: to be here. I no longer want to be held 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: to closed door negotiations without my agent president. 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: I no longer want shots taken to. 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: Me for getting injured while laying on the line for 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: the organization, our fans, and my teammates. I no longer 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: want narratives created and spread to the media about me. 27 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: My trade request has been submitted to Stephen Jones personally. 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: There is a ton more to that statement, ton more 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: to unpack. For that, we will bring in our Jane 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Slater to the conversation as well. 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Ian. Let's start with you. 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: It is August first, when Michah Parsons decides to press 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the nuclear button with the Cowboys organization. 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Why now. 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: Nuclear button is correct? 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: Once Micah Parsons says very publicly as he does, that 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: he does not want to play for the Dallas Cowboys. 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 3: Look, he could go back. 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: We have seen teams work out a deal in these circumstances, 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: but it is a challenge and no doubt it would 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: take a lot. Micah Parsons tried. He tried. He told 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: the Cowboys several times that he wanted to be a 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: member of the organization long term. He's got a really 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: good podcast. He said it plenty of times on that too. 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: He wants to be a member of the Dallas Cowboys 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: his entire career, even against the advice of his agent, 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: David Mulligata. He wanted to do a deal earlier rather 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: than later to make sure it got done, to make 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: sure he stayed. The Cowboys have really not engaged absince 50 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 4: and I know Jane's going to get into this. The 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: conversation with Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones, where Micah thought 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: they're having a conversation, Jerry Jones thought they were negotiating, 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: and that partially led to the disconnect. It just seemed 54 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: like Micah had had enough, he had done everything he 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: possibly could. Hit the button now hit send demands a trade. 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: So what might a trade actually look like for the 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. I've talked to Stephen Jones about this personally. 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: Trading Micah Parsons is something, at least in December when 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 4: I spoke to him and cited him in a story 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 4: at endavall dot com. It is something at least they 61 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: have considered because about top heavy their team is salary wise, 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: but to do it now. It would mean that they're 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: looking toward the future rather than now. It would mean 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: they value the two number one overall two number one picks, 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: which they. 66 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: Likely would get. 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: It would mean someone else would have to give Micah Parsons, 68 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: make Michael Parsons the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL, 69 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: and it would mean the Cowboys would have to replace him. 70 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: That's a lot. It's not impossible, but it is an 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: absolute lot. And by Micah Parsons hitting that button today, 72 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: it forced us Jane to consider all of those options. 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, I taught to you a number 74 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: of people closest to you, going all the way back 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: to the spring. 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 6: And here's what I can tell you. 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 5: It's August first, and there has been absolutely no offer 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 5: or contract negotiation in writing exchange between these two guys. 79 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 6: I know about you. 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: We've covered a number of contracts. This is sort of unprecedented. 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: But I'm getting multiple sides of this story, so typically 82 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: the truth is somewhere here in the middle. 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 6: Here is what I'm being told. 84 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 5: There were conversations that began in late March early April 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: that started with Jerry Jones prompting Micah Parsons to come 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 5: to his office and they wanted to discuss leadership. 87 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 6: At some point. 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 5: They got into what a contract would or could look like, 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: after Micah had explained some of the things that he wanted. 90 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: It's my understanding that Jerry said, yep, let's sign off 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 5: on it. One side says that whatever that offer was 92 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 5: and the number wasn't for to me, that it would 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: have made him the highest defensive player. 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 6: At that position. 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: That has been disputed by some sides because some sides 96 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: alleged because there was actually no contract offer and nothing 97 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 5: in writing, and since then there have been no ongoing 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 5: negotiations that how can we talk about what that number 99 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 5: would have been if we actually never saw it in writing. 100 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 5: Then I was also told that there was sort of 101 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: this implied threat that if something didn't get done, then 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: a trade could be on the table. And as you 103 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 5: can see today, Micah Parsons, clearly frustrated, put out a 104 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 5: statement that he essentially feels disrespected by this organization because 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 5: he and good Faith went into the owner's office, they talked, 106 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 5: but then it was not honored visa a exchange with. 107 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 6: His agent to put this in writing. 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 5: One person with knowledge argued back that they were told 109 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: by the agent that they wouldn't even be negotiating until 110 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: they were one of the last ones at the table, 111 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: after all the defensive ends had gotten their deals done. 112 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: So it is a whole bunch of information points of 113 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 5: views how we got here. But I will tell you, guys, 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 5: I've covered a lot of contentious contracts as it relates 115 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: to the Cowboys. 116 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 6: It can be frustrating at times, and a lot of 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 6: times I. 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 5: Say, oh, they're going to figure it out. Micah Parsons 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: is a little bit of a different dude here. I 120 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: don't know if I've ever seen a player come out 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 5: and as you said, he has sort of hit the 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 5: nuclear button typically we don't drop the bombs around here, 123 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 5: and ends up with diplomacy. 124 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 6: He fully knew what he was doing. 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: He is remaining at camp by the way, And I 126 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 5: don't know about you, guys. I've been in the crosshairs 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 5: of Jerry and Stephen Jones and they can make things 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 5: very uncomfortable. 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 6: So I got to think it's a little bit uncomfortable 130 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 6: for him. 131 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 5: But he did sit on that statement for a few days, 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: but felt like this was the time to do it. 133 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 6: He felt disrespected. 134 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: Well, that comes across in the message that he put out, 135 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 7: because it is very personal in tone. He enumerates all 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 7: the things that he believes Jerry Jones, did you know, 137 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 7: talking about his injuries, negotiating without his agent in the room, 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 7: putting out narratives about Mica into the media. It was 139 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 7: very much felt like a personal shot at Jerry Jones. 140 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 7: Clearly Michaeh. Parsons is frustrated, and that's probably the least 141 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 7: of what he is. He sounds mad at this point. Look, 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 7: Jerry a few weeks ago said Michael Parsons is one 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 7: of the smartest players he's ever dealt with. He knows 144 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 7: his value, his value as a football player, and his 145 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 7: value in terms of finances. So Jerry clearly has respect 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 7: for him, not just as a football player, but as 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 7: a businessman. And that's saying a lot coming from Jerry Jones. Look, 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 7: families argue within each other. What I think is so 149 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 7: noteworthy about this is how very public it is. You 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 7: don't usually hear players come out this publicly, and this 151 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 7: pointedly against an owner, especially not an owner like Jerry Jones. 152 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 7: So I think this is unusual. 153 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: I will say this. 154 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 7: Players have said I don't want to be here. Anymore 155 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 7: and then things have gotten patched up. Miles Garrett just 156 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 7: did it and it worked out fine. He got an 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 7: enormous contract out of it, so it's not irreparable. It's 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 7: just tougher than it needed to be. 159 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: And I just keep. 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 7: Going back to if they had gotten the contract done 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 7: at any point, even not all the way back when 162 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 7: Micah first said he would want to do this contract, 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 7: you wouldn't be in this situation, and you wouldn't have 164 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 7: the top heavy situation that they keep having at the 165 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 7: Cowboys because they wait until the eleventh hour to get 166 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 7: all these big contracts done. 167 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: Judy, I could do an hour long podcast on this, 168 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 5: but I'll wrap this up by saying, there is an 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: implication based on someone that I taught to you that 170 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 5: may be Jerry is frustrated that he had negotiated some 171 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: sort of. 172 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 6: Deal by going straight to Micah to get this thing done. 173 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 5: But you and I both know Jerry Jones would never 174 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: do a deal, a handshake deal with the CEO of 175 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 5: PEPSI without getting his council involved. So that's why this 176 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: whole thing is very interesting to me. 177 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: Also, Bear's mentioned something and reiterating Jane a point that 178 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: you made the fact that Michael Parsons, despite the peace 179 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: out tone of that statement, is still in Cowboys camp. 180 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: As one person said to me today, why would he leave? 181 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Not only now do the Cowboys have to look at Michaeh. 182 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Parsons great every day, have him have the attention on him, 183 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: but also if he were to leave, the rules change 184 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and a drastic measure consent what's called a 185 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: five day letter forcing Parsons to come back to camp, 186 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: or else they can put him on the reserve left 187 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: squad list, sideline him for the entire season, not pay him, 188 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: and still own his rights. We're not there yet. There's 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: some time to go, but Jane, I am taking a while. 190 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: Guess he will be on every episode of The Insiders 191 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: until this gets resolved. 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It is not the only tense. 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Situation in the league, not the only tense situation in 194 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: the NFC East Commanders wide receiver Terry McLaurin officially requested 195 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: a trade over the past forty eight hours, This coming 196 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: on the heels of his initial holdout, which turned into 197 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: a hold in of sorts. Though technically he's on the 198 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: physically unable to perform lists because of an ankle injury 199 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: suffered at the tail end of last season, did rehab 200 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: early in the off season. This is a situation ian 201 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: where everybody can yell pay the man, and on some 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: level maybe the Commanders are willing to do that, but 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: it seems abutt only clear at this point they would 204 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: only be willing to do that on their terms, and 205 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like that's anywhere near the types of 206 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: terms Terry McLaurin would want in order to sign a 207 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: new contract extension. 208 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 209 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: I mean, the fact that Terry McLaurin does not have 210 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: a new conscience the contract is not for lack of 211 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: effort from the Commanders. 212 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: They have tried to negotiate with. 213 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 4: Terry mclaurin's agent, Buddy Baker, to get a new deal 214 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: down that with more properly cop say them and give 215 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: him a really really nice third act, third contract for 216 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: his career. They just disagree on value, and they disagree greatly. 217 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: It's very clear to me Terry mccaorran wants to be 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: paid thirty three million dollars per year, maybe even more 219 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: that DK metcalf got. They're in the same draft class, 220 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: they have similar stats, different kind of receivers, and McLaurin 221 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: is older, but. 222 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: That is what he wants. 223 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: It does not seem that Washington as of right now 224 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 4: wants to pay him like that. So McLaurin has demanded 225 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: a trade, and what we've heard from the Commanders has 226 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: been nothing. And that's interesting because you know that if 227 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: there are teams interested in trading for Terry mccallran, that 228 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: at the very least they are calling General Manager Adam Peters, who, 229 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: by the way, did take several contracts down to the 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: wire with the forty nine Ers. 231 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: This is not anything new for him. 232 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: But if there is interest, if teams are calling the 233 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: Washington Commanders, how do they handle that and what do 234 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: they say publicly and privately. Still plenty of more information 235 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: we need on mccloran. 236 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 7: You know, this is the first bit of rough water 237 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 7: that the new era of the Commanders have encountered. It's 238 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 7: all been positive, it's all been feel good vibes since 239 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 7: new ownership took over. They got the right coach, the 240 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 7: right GM, certainly the right quarterback. They make the run 241 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 7: to the NFC Championship game. They put all of these 242 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 7: pieces around Jaden Daniels. This offseason, and now this with 243 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 7: really arguably one of the most popular players on the 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 7: team and certainly the face of the franchise until Jaden 245 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 7: and Daniels got there, who was a positive face of 246 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 7: the franchise and a positive leader through some very very 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 7: difficult years at the Commanders. Let's also be clear, in 248 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 7: football terms, they are a diminished team if Terry McLaurin 249 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 7: is not on that team. He was a key part 250 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 7: of Jade Daniels' rookie season and he finished the season 251 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 7: with the career high numbers in TD reception, so they 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 7: would miss him as a wide receiver, they would miss 253 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 7: him as a leader. Again, this is not a rougher, 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 7: but because they are so far apart and they don't 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 7: agree on value, you do wonder if they can cobble 256 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: together some sort of compromise deal in time to get 257 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 7: Terry mcluurin. It's hard to imagine Terry mcluurin playing anywhere else. 258 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Honestly, Terry mcluurin said many times he only wants to 259 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: play for the Commanders. But like so many other players, 260 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: you do reach a point where, well, if you're not 261 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: going to pay me anything close to what I think 262 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm worth, then trade me to someplace that will down 263 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,119 Speaker 1: here in Tampa. I did not get to see quarterback 264 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. He hit his hand on a shoulder pad 265 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: on a follow through early in practice on Thursday. My 266 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: understanding it is he finished out the practice, then when 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: underwent a battery of tests, they ruled out any type 268 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: of a significant injury. Todd Bowles sat down with us 269 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: on inside training camp live said he'll probably be a 270 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: day Mayfield be back out there, just a contusion. They're 271 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: being cautious, but he will be out there very soon. 272 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: As for what else we saw, well, Kyle Trash was 273 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: getting the ball to the likes of a Mecca BUCA today, 274 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: a very deep Buccaneers wide receiver group, even at a 275 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: time where Chris Godwin has not yet gotten onto the field, 276 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: sounds like everything trending in the right direction. Godwin right 277 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: now is a headed tristan works in terms of his recovery. 278 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: Both players expected back at some point, but Toad Bowles 279 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to put any types of timelines on it. 280 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: Certainly a BUKA, if not an insurance policy, gives the 281 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: Bucks the ability to be patient with Godwin and getting 282 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: back on the field, Judy. 283 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 7: Some news on the quarterback front in Cleveland. Kenny Pickett, 284 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 7: who had missed a few days of practice with a 285 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 7: hamstring injury, return today. He practiced on a limited basis. 286 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 7: He didn't work in the team periods, but he did 287 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 7: do individual work. So that's certainly a step in the 288 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 7: right direction for Pickett. Frankly, time is of the essence 289 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 7: for him. He is in a quarterback battle with Joe 290 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 7: Flacco for the starting job, and then of course there 291 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 7: are the rookies Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders also in 292 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 7: the quarterback competition. Right now, as we've been saying all along, 293 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 7: you got to give the edge to Flacco since he 294 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 7: has had success with the Browns and Kevin Stefanski. And 295 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski has made it clear he'd like to make 296 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 7: a decision on this sooner rather than later, although Andrew 297 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 7: Berry has also said he would be open to keeping 298 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 7: all four quarterbacks on the roster. We will see, but 299 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 7: certainly it is important for Kenny pickettch you get back 300 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 7: on the field and practicing fully as soon as possible. Ian. 301 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, here in Buffalo, one of the guys we did 302 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: see on the field. 303 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Was that guy right there, James Cook. 304 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: They're a star running back, one of the most productive 305 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: players on their offense, and really one of the more 306 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: a fan favorite, big time fan favorite in the stadium 307 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: right behind me where they are having a very spirited, 308 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: intense practice. We've spent a lot of time talking about 309 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 4: holdings and holdouts and contracts, nothing involving James Cook. 310 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: He is there, he is ready. 311 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: According to Shaun McDermott told me earlier today, he is 312 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: in great shape and he has been really impressed with 313 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: his football character and other character. We'll see if James 314 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: Cook gets paid eventually. The Bills curly have a number 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: clear right now, whether the two sides could make it happen, 316 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: but just him as a player, just him as a player. 317 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: It is evident this is someone the organization values greatly. Meanwhile, 318 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: coming up on the Insiders, that was a lot plenty 319 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: to chew on there. We got a little bit more 320 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: with our good friend Bridget Condon, who is hanging out 321 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 4: with Seattle and that guy right there, Sam Donald. We 322 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: don't need to talk about Sam Donald's contract situation anymore. 323 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: He is locked in in Seattle. 324 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: But what else can we get from our good friend, 325 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: Bridget stay tuned and find out, I don't know. 326 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Some news tonight out of Los Angeles, potentially a reunion 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: with Keenan Allen, the six time Pro Bowl wide receiver 328 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: is in LA. I'm told right now, as he and 329 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: I have reported earlier today, to meet with the Chargers. 330 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: There is mutual interest in a potential reunion. Of course, 331 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: Mike Williams retired recently unexpectedly. He was a former Charger 332 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: who became a new Charger. Could Keenan Allen do the same? 333 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: One of the top free agents still available. We'll be 334 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: tracking that one throughout the course of this show. Last night, 335 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: Ken Allen could kick back like all of us and 336 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: watch his new maybe and definitely old team in the 337 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game against the Lions. 338 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: Football is back. 339 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Jared Allen, stirly sharp, Eric Allen, Antonio Gates, the class 340 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five on hand to watch this one. 341 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, he can't beat up Justin Herbert pregame, He'll 342 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: do what to. 343 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: Trey Lanson seemed to work. 344 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: This one part was easy handed off to Omari and 345 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: Hampton their first round draft pick pick up of eight 346 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: yards right there. One of the top rushers in college 347 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: football last season. That sets up this Trey Lance with 348 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: the nice touch to Will Disley in the end zone. 349 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: They're up seven to nothing. Justin Herbert loving it on 350 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: the sideline. Of course, the Lion integrated some new coordinators, 351 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn Out, John Morton making his debut 352 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: as Detroit's new offensive coordinator up in the booth. Lions 353 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: down seven to nothing at this point. Kyle Allen picked 354 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: off by Nico Ree, undrafted free agent. That's one way 355 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: to try to make the team. Two interceptions in the 356 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: game for Allen, Jared Goff and Dan Campbell looking on 357 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: right there. Chargers back on offense now, Trey Lance still 358 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: in the game. Great showcase for the former number three 359 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: overall draft pick, this time airing it out to KeAndre 360 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: and Lambert Smith. Remember that name. You're gonna hear it 361 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: again even within this highlight. Packets Charges up fourteen to seven. 362 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: Second quarter, third and six, Lance, Lambert Smith and into 363 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: the end zone right there. Kelvin Shepherd's Lions defense struggle 364 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: to slow down Trey Lance. Don't worry, the real player 365 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: is going to be coming back soon. Chargers win thirty 366 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: four to seven. That's just the kickoff of Hall of 367 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: Fame weekend out in Canton, Ohio. Tomorrow, we got a 368 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: special three hour edition of Inside Training Camp Live from 369 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: nine to new Eastern, followed by the Hall of Fame 370 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Enshrineman ceremony. Catch it all tomorrow noon Eastern on NFL 371 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Network and streaming on NFL plut. 372 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 7: Judy, let's go now to one of the prettiest locations 373 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 7: on the training camp circuit, the Seattle Seahawks in Renton, Washington. Listen, 374 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 7: all eyes are on Sam Donald and how he is 375 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 7: settling in with his new team. And his old friend 376 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 7: Clint Kopiak is there, who was with him in San Francisco. 377 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 7: Of course, he had the breakout season last year hybridget 378 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 7: content in Minnesota, and the big question is can that 379 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 7: be replicated in Seattle. Bridget, you have been there all day. 380 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 7: What are your takeaways from the practice. 381 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 8: Judy, Exactly. A lot of people are wondering what Sam 382 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 8: Donald will look like here with the Seattle Seahawks. Well, 383 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 8: I can tell you. We're sitting just outside of the 384 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 8: locker room and I have a direct line into the 385 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 8: locker room. And after practice, Sam Donald was one of 386 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 8: the few players to go into the weight room. He 387 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 8: was working kind of looked like he was stretching with 388 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 8: the bands for probably about fifteen to twenty minutes. And 389 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 8: that dedication is exactly what head coach Mike McDonald likes 390 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 8: from his quarterback. We asked him just minutes after practice 391 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 8: about Sam Donald and he said he he knew the 392 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 8: kind of player that he was obviously playing up against him, 393 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 8: but it was the person he was that he fell 394 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 8: in love with, and that's who he wants leading his team. 395 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 8: One of the best plays of the day from practice 396 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 8: was Sam Darnold threw Cooper Cup a pass he was 397 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 8: on a slant route. He took it to the house. 398 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 8: The first person to come over in high five Cooper 399 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 8: Cup was Jackson Smith and Jigba. I know a lot 400 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 8: of talk about Cup and Njigba both playing the slot, 401 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 8: but Cup said earlier that they're just fueling each other 402 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 8: and that's how you get better having an elite receiver 403 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 8: like him in the room. But as Mike McDonald enters 404 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 8: year two, some of the things he's looking for Judy 405 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 8: is to be physical, to be tough. Look, this is 406 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 8: a team that a season ago was bottom five in 407 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 8: terms of rushing attempts and rushing yards. He wants to 408 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 8: change that. Kenneth Walker says he's healthy, he's feeling good, 409 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 8: he's eaten better. He's going to bed. Earlier, he said 410 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 8: he was going at one am, and now Judy he's 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 8: going to bed at ten. I'm like, I'm going to 412 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 8: bed at eight. I mean, I don't know. Maybe he'll 413 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 8: have his MVP season if he starts going to bed 414 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 8: at eight like the rest of us. But look, they're 415 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 8: doing every thing they can to get better, Judy on offense, 416 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 8: and it shows that chemistry that they're building out here 417 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 8: in Retin. 418 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 7: All right, let's turn our attention to the defense. Anybody's 419 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 7: standing out there. 420 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, his name is e Man. That's what m Rob 421 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 8: has been calling him. Gave him a nickname already, the 422 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 8: safety nick e Man. 423 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: Worry. 424 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 8: He was the second round pick for this team. He 425 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 8: was one of the biggest guys out there on the field, 426 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 8: definitely noticeable by his size, but also the plays that 427 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 8: he's making already as a young rookie. He had a 428 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 8: diving interception I'm told in practice yesterday and then today 429 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 8: another pick. The crowd was cheering for him He's definitely 430 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 8: an addition for this defensive back room. And with him 431 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 8: and Devin Witherspoon, who had a Pro Bowl season last 432 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 8: year and his rookie year, this defense continues to look 433 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 8: like that defense. We know the Seahawks are able to 434 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 8: be back. I don't know more than a decade ago. 435 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 8: I guess we're talking about, But Judy, a lot of 436 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 8: exciting things here in Seattle, Bridget. 437 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 438 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 7: Enjoy that beautiful setting in Renton, Washington. And when we 439 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 7: come back, we're going to head back or I guess 440 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 7: you're going to head for the first time to East Rutherford. 441 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 7: It's where I spent the early part of the day 442 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 7: with the New York Giants. We'll talk about how Big 443 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 7: Blue is looking in training camp when we return. 444 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: US Cowboys Parsons announcing it himself in a social media 445 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: post detailing a variety of frustrations with the organization and 446 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: his interactions with owner Jerry Jones, saying in part that 447 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: unfortunately he no longer wants to be a Cowboy. He 448 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: is still in Oxnark, California. He is still in training camp, 449 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: has not practiced to this point, and no signs that'll change. 450 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: Anytime soon. 451 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Several Cowboys teammates coming to Mike his aid in all this, 452 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: including Ceedee Lambot his own situation playout last year. 453 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: CD posting never fails. Dog. 454 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Just pay the man what you owe him, no need 455 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: for the extra curricular. Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pillisero, 456 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: now joined by our Bucky Brooks. 457 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Monkey. 458 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: You played in the league, you worked in front offices 459 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: in the league. 460 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: Tell me what you make. 461 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: Of these developments on August first, between Michael Parsons and 462 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. 463 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 9: It's unbelievable, Tom, It's unbelievable that their best player on 464 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 9: the Dallas Cowboys is treated in the manner of which 465 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 9: the Cowboys have decided to treat him. Michael Parsons comes 466 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 9: into training camp operating under a negotiation of good faith. 467 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 10: I'm coming here, We're gonna get this deal done. 468 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 9: And yet we still are sitting here on August first, 469 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 9: and no deal has been consummated. 470 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 10: They haven't figured out. 471 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 11: What they're doing. 472 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 9: And to me, this is a repeated theme with the 473 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys. They never take care of their best players, 474 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 9: whether it's Ezekiel Elliott, Dak Prescott, Cedee Lamb. The list 475 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 9: goes on and on and on. When it's time to 476 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 9: pay the bill, the Dallas Cowboys don't do it. And unfortunately, 477 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 9: it's a relationship business teams talk every day about Hey man, 478 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 9: it's about holding commitment, accountability, and trust. We've got to 479 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 9: be committed to one another. We've got to be accountable 480 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 9: one another, and we have to trust one another. It 481 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 9: is hard to foster that environment in the locker room 482 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 9: when the people in the locker room don't believe that 483 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 9: the people upstairs truly hold on to that ethos And 484 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 9: so Jerry Jones may eventually win the deal, but he's 485 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 9: hurting the team because no one really feels strongly about 486 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 9: wearing the star because they don't feel like ownership and 487 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 9: the front office will take care of them if they 488 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 9: do what they do for the franchise, they're not going 489 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 9: to get paid in return. 490 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: The irony is the Cowboys end up doing even higher 491 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: level deals a lot of the time in the end, 492 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: but sometimes, in the case of for instance, Dac Prescott, 493 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: I can take multiple years beyond that point at a 494 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: time that the market is rising, which has also been 495 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: what's playing out here with the Edge Rushers. Bucky, thank 496 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: you very much for your perspective, Judy Well. 497 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 7: I started the day out at Giants practice with Baldy 498 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 7: and Mike Garafalo. What stood out well? The offense had 499 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 7: a really good day. We'd said it before. There's an 500 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 7: awful lot of positivity around Russell Wilson that he has 501 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 7: brought to the team. But the one person who really 502 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 7: stood out today was Abdul Carter. That this is not 503 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 7: the first time we have said that about him. He 504 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 7: was wrecking everything today. His burst off the ball is startling. 505 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 7: He had a variety of moves on display today. One 506 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 7: a spin move that got him around the outside of 507 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 7: John Runyan. Another time he was rushing inside and just 508 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 7: burst right through the line. They are moving him all 509 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 7: around the formation. They had him today on the field 510 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 7: with cave On Thibodeau and Brian Burns all at the 511 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 7: same time. This is the kind of excitement that Abdul 512 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 7: Carter has brought to the Giants. When he does something 513 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 7: like maybe the spin move, his fellow defenders are whooping 514 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 7: it up. That's how excited they are to see what 515 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 7: he can do in a game situation. After practice, we 516 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 7: sat down with cave On Thibodeaux and Brian Burns. 517 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 12: I'm kve on Thibodeau. We got Brian Burns, got Baldy 518 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 12: and we got Judy in here. I mean, today was 519 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 12: a great day. 520 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 11: Right you tell us was what kind of day was? 521 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 10: It came? 522 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 13: It was definitely a defense to day. I think it 523 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 13: was fun. 524 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 12: Burns got to the quarterback, I got to the quarterback. 525 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 12: We were stopping to run, We're getting interceptions. It was 526 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 12: a fun day on defense. 527 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 10: It was. It was a great battle. 528 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 14: You know, rest operates well, operates quickly, so he's kind 529 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 14: of speeding up our clock. We can't have any wasted 530 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 14: movements with our Russia, so we've been getting home. 531 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 10: But he's also been making some places. 532 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 15: I saw it two minutes drill like towards the end 533 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 15: of practice right there, kept out of the end. 534 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 10: Zie. That's always a good feeling, right. 535 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 13: There's definitely like to start a two minute off of 536 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 13: the sack. 537 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you did right? 538 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 13: You know, hey, you know what. 539 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: Was the move? 540 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 11: What'd you. 541 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 12: I've been going to a lot of power this training camp, 542 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 12: just because of the sense we've been getting, so definitely 543 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 12: tailoring my moves to the setters and then you know, 544 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 12: keep kind of opening it up as we you know, 545 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 12: set up those initial moves. 546 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 16: Brian, you mentioned that the way Russell runs practice, right, 547 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 16: it's forcing everything to speed up. It feels like the 548 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 16: past rush in particular has been really active, at least 549 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 16: in the days we've been able to see here in 550 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 16: the beginning. 551 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 10: Really just a start. There's really just to start, honestly, 552 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 10: dex is and out there all the way. 553 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 14: You know, he's still nursing somewhat of his nicks and bruises, 554 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 14: but so far we've been looking very sharp and you know, 555 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 14: getting abduall up to speed with us, you know, just 556 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 14: continuing to teach him and really mold him into a pro. 557 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 10: You know, it's really been a great feeling. 558 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 12: It's really dope for me to see, you know, russ 559 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 12: like playing with different quarterbacks and now having like a 560 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 12: true legend in there that's calling and checking and doing 561 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 12: everything that you know you would expect him to do 562 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 12: or you would see or you would hope you do, 563 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 12: but like he's doing it full flash. So it's been dope, 564 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 12: you know even for us, like playing off of him 565 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 12: and understanding. 566 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 10: What he's doing. 567 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 16: How much your energy and positivity is But that's been 568 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 16: mentioned to us a few days here, the positivity and 569 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 16: the energy Russ springs. 570 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 6: How does that even affect you guys on defense? 571 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 14: It affects me definitely, me because we were right next 572 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 14: to each other. So I asked Rus questions all day. 573 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 14: And it's whether it's football or just how he operates, 574 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 14: like taking care of his body, or just like his 575 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 14: mindset like he has. He's strong mentally, you know, So 576 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 14: I kind of want to take some of those things 577 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 14: and and apply it to my life and my game. 578 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 12: I think it also creates belief, you know, when you 579 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 12: have guys that you can trust in one on the 580 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 12: field and what they do, but then to the character 581 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 12: and who they are and how they carry themselves. It 582 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 12: gives you know, each player confidence to go be themselves 583 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 12: and to find out where they fit, you know, amongst 584 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 12: the team. So for me personally, I'm right down the 585 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 12: way kind of on the same block as Burns and Russ. 586 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 13: But you know, just hearing how he's bringing everybody along. 587 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 12: He not only you know, brings up the offense but 588 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 12: also the defense, and he likes to call people up 589 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 12: not out. 590 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 10: So I love that your leader. 591 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, so you mentioned Abdul, What has he been like 592 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 15: because I see in your past rush sets, like he's 593 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 15: moving around, he's in different places, he's over the guard, 594 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 15: over the center, and you guys are on the edge 595 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 15: most of the time. But like just his addition and 596 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 15: his energy, and you know, he looks like he's got 597 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 15: a lot of juice for the game. 598 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 10: He does. But honestly, just using his versatility to our benefit. 599 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 14: Like I said, it's imperative that we move him around 600 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 14: because you don't want him in one spot and he 601 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 14: can do so much yo, And we're all similar body types, 602 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 14: so we all can really be interchangeable. As long as 603 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 14: we know exactly the concepts of the games that we're 604 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 14: running and the concept of the play, we can all 605 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 14: be in different spots. 606 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 16: We can feel the belief here, the high energy, the 607 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 16: anticipation tell Giants fans why they should believe in this 608 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 16: version of the Giants this year. 609 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 14: I will honestly just say it's a new season, you know, 610 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 14: and the way I look at everything, we have to 611 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 14: prove it. 612 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 10: And this is what we're doing in training camp right now. 613 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 14: So with the energy they're bringing to our practices and 614 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 14: the belief that Russ has instilled into the team, I 615 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 14: just think like the sky's a limit for all. 616 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 12: Of us, and I would say to giants fans, us 617 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 12: against the world. So as long as you guys are 618 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 12: riding with us, we're gonna take on whoever we need 619 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 12: to and whoever was. 620 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 10: On the other side, stay over there. 621 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 7: When we return, Adam Rank is going to join the 622 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 7: show to talk about surprise bum bears when we return. 623 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: On The Insiders, our top story tonight, Michael Parsons has 624 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: requested a raid from the Dallas Cowboys. This following months 625 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: of on and mostly off contract talks about a blockbuster 626 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: extension that would make Parsons the highest paid non quarterback 627 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: in NFL history. A bunch of teammates also taking to 628 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: social media to have Parsons back, some of them changing 629 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: their profile photos on x to photos of Michael Parsons 630 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, who went through his own situation just a 631 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: year ago, weighing in and saying, never fails, dog. Just 632 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: pay the man what you owe him, no need for 633 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: the extra curricular. 634 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Insiders. WHOA, whoa? 635 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: What is that new bio on Adam Rank's Twitter? 636 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: He is a favorite of my mailman. That is true. 637 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: I can confirm I actually went out to get the mail, 638 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: ran into my mailman and he was like, man, I 639 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: love your show The Insiders, but you know who I 640 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: really like Adam Rank, who, by the way, joins us 641 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: right now on this very show The Inside is Rank. 642 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: I want to say first, I know we're going to 643 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: get to some other stuff. Congratulations. That's as good as 644 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: it gets. 645 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 17: There's nothing better than that. It's like everybody loving the 646 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 17: backup quarterback. They're like, yeah, the guy who's on your 647 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 17: show once a week, we love him. But I appreciate it. 648 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 17: Shout out to your mail man, thank you for everything 649 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 17: you do. 650 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a great job of bringing the mail 651 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: to the mailbox. Also, very nice guy. 652 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 10: Rank. 653 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: A couple of days ago, I was at Chicago Bears 654 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: training camp. 655 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: It's going to be a fascinating season for the Bears. 656 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: A lot to like defensively, Offensively, there's a little bit 657 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: of a ways to go, and I think Caleb Williams 658 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: it's cleared with the right guy. What has been your 659 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: takeaways from the Chicago Bears first camp under coach Ben Johnson. 660 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 17: Well, it's definitely been a work in progress. It's not 661 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 17: going to be something that's going to be immediate I 662 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 17: know a lot of Bears fans don't have a lot 663 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 17: of patience for this, which is understandable when you're give 664 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 17: in the struggles over the last number of years and 665 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 17: you have a name like Ben Johnson in and you 666 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 17: want to see it click immediately. 667 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 11: But what they need right. 668 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 17: Now is just getting Caleb Williams to master the mundane, 669 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 17: to go out there and make sure that he's not 670 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 17: always trying to play hero ball, that he's out there 671 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 17: taking a check down or something like that. And there 672 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 17: was a play in practice on Thursday. It was a 673 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 17: third and four and Olamande's a kias he was out 674 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 17: streaking three triple covered and last year that's the kind 675 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 17: of throw Kayleb Williams would have taken, but made the 676 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 17: right decision, checked it down to Cole Comet, picked up 677 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 17: the first down and we're able to move the change. 678 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 17: And I think that's the kind of thing that we 679 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 17: need to see out of Caleb Williams immediately. 680 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 11: You don't want to make him play, you. 681 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 17: Know, you don't want to take away his the special 682 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 17: qualities that he has, but you also wanted to make 683 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 17: smart decisions and keep that offense out there on the field. 684 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: Right when I was there. It was the first practice 685 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: for their first. 686 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: Round rookie Colston Lovelin, who I think a lot of 687 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: people is a big surprise in the draft as early 688 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: as he went going by before Tyler Warren talk to 689 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: people on the Bear staff though, and they think this 690 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: is a matchup nightmare. What do you make of Colston 691 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 4: Loveland as a rookie. 692 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 17: Yeah, I really like the way that they approached the draft, 693 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 17: like not only going out there and getting Colston Lovelin, 694 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 17: but also bringing in Luther Burden the third in the 695 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 17: second round. Obviously, the goal is to go out there 696 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 17: and surround the Chicago with surround Caleb with as much 697 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 17: talent as possible. We're gonna see a lot of twelve 698 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 17: personnel from this team. There's going to be a lot 699 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 17: of different, lot of different guys that Caleb Williams can 700 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 17: throw to. Not only do you have DJ Moore Roma Dunz, 701 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 17: but now you have Colston Lovelin along with Cole Comett 702 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 17: and don't forget deanre Swift had seventy receptions the last 703 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 17: time he played with Ben Johnson when both of them 704 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 17: were in Detroit. There are going to be a lot 705 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 17: of options for Caleb Williams this season. 706 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, really going to be clear how much the Bears 707 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: have built around Caleb Williams when you see them take 708 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: the field this year. It's gonna be a really interesting 709 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: season in Chicago. Better days ahead for you, Rank, appreciate 710 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: you as always been. Don't go anywhere You're coming right 711 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: back by the way you know you should do. 712 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: You should mail me a letter. Then all of our 713 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 3: world that would great will collide. All right. 714 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: I love that big time events this weekend coming up 715 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 4: by Rank because it is the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. 716 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 3: And awesome class. 717 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: Just being totally honest, and my absolute favorites going up 718 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: Shirley Sharp, Antonio Gates, Jared Allen, and Eric Allen who 719 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: went one on one with our good friend Steve Wish. 720 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: We are under the twenty four hour clock. 721 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 18: Wow, for you're going to be on that stage Tom 722 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 18: Benson Stadium delivering your enshrine and speech. 723 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 10: How are you feeling right now? 724 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 19: I'm excited with the day's festivities going on. We at 725 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 19: the ray Nisky luncheon today where it's just the Hall 726 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 19: of Fame guys. 727 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 10: New guys weren't. 728 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 19: Able to speak, but you just kind of soak up 729 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 19: the energy and kind of get a really good idea 730 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 19: of what. 731 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 10: You've been able to accomplish, and it was very special. 732 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 10: Is it also what you've accomplished, but also what is. 733 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 18: Required because of the rare air you're about to really 734 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 18: start breathing. 735 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 19: Yeah, that's great, that's great. That's a good question. And 736 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 19: you're right because as you walk through the hallways, you 737 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 19: kind of get an understanding of the guys that you followed, 738 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 19: the great players that you tried to emulate your game after, 739 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 19: and then there's those guys that you never thought you 740 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 19: would be in the same you know, room with those guys, 741 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 19: and it is an incredibly honor, you know that you 742 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 19: continue to kind of every time I wake up, it's 743 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 19: like I'm walking down the hall and Okay, there goes 744 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 19: you know, Charlie John, you know, there goes Dan Fouts, 745 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 19: you know, there goes Mike Haynes. So it's just over 746 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 19: and over again. Just kind of get the, uh, that 747 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 19: great feeling of being on a great team. 748 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 10: Have you had a chance to think back for this 749 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 10: whole process. 750 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 18: It's random McDaniel knocked on your door, Let you know, 751 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 18: to think back and say Wow, what a good career 752 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 18: I've had, What a great life I've lived. 753 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 10: What a good player I want? 754 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 19: Steve, you're forced to kind of when you're going through 755 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 19: the speech preparation, the images that they ask you to submit, 756 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 19: so you have to do a little digging, and you 757 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 19: know you're reaching out to friends and family, and it's 758 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 19: just natural to pause a little bit, you know, at 759 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 19: the end of every night for the last month or so, 760 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 19: every night and kind of like, wow, you know they 761 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 19: want a picture of me in a Pop Warner uniform 762 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 19: because that was a part of the journey, and you 763 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 19: start to kind of understand the biggest thing is there's 764 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 19: a sacrifice that I have to make that all these 765 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 19: players have to make to get here, and that sacrifices, 766 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 19: you know, lost time because instead of going out, you 767 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 19: worked out. Instead of you know, going to a party, 768 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 19: you know, you went to the playbook. But also there's 769 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 19: a sacrifice from your family. Once you get to this level, 770 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 19: if you want to maintain and stay here, there has 771 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 19: to be a sacrifice from everyone. So you can focus 772 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 19: and concentrate on what you're trying to do and at 773 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 19: the time, you're not thinking about this specific place, you're 774 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 19: thinking about just being bettered inan Dion, being bettered in 775 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 19: Darryl Green, you know, shutting down Chris Carter or mikee Irvin. 776 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 19: Those are things you're thinking about. But ultimately all those 777 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 19: things together lead you here. 778 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 4: I had a nice little talk with myself to not 779 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: get emotional during these ceremonies. And you listen to Eric 780 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: Allen get emotional himself and you're like, oh boy, I'm 781 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 4: done for it. 782 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 3: Anyway, that'll be fun over this weekend. 783 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 4: Still a lot of fun here, including our good friend 784 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 4: my Meilmen's favorite Adam Rank coming back and down the 785 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: inside is just talk about that guy right there. Kyler 786 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: Murray leaves some information for me. 787 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 10: Rank. 788 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go see them in a couple of days. 789 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals training camp rolling on in Glendale, Arizona. Kyler Murray 790 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: back for more in a big year for everybody in Arizona, 791 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: including his head coach Jonathan Again. 792 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 20: It's competitive stamina. Do what your coach would do over 793 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 20: and over and over when when it's not sexy at times, 794 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 20: You know what I mean, And that's I think every quarterback. 795 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 20: I think they got to know that I you know, 796 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 20: and but you got to know when it's needed too, 797 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 20: you know, and there's different spots in a game that 798 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 20: it's it's there's a lot going on, you know what 799 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 20: I mean, And you got to make the correct decision 800 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 20: over and over and over. But I think he's done 801 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 20: a good job of that. You know, I'll never question 802 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 20: his decision making. I know what we coach, and I 803 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 20: know what he's allowed to do and what he sees. 804 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 20: But I trust him to make the right decision and 805 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 20: make plays for us. I really do. 806 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pilacero, joined once again 807 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: by Adam Rank. Adam, this is a really fascinating Cardinals team. 808 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: They've got some pieces in place. It's been a build 809 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: over the past few years. What stood out to you 810 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: from Arizona. 811 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 17: Well, it's one of the things that's about Kyler Murray 812 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 17: and what they really need is hint to play a 813 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 17: lot better. When you look back at last year's statistics, 814 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 17: you know, the Cardinals were middle of the pack in 815 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 17: a lot of the passing categories, which you kind of 816 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 17: expected them to be better on, especially when you bring 817 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 17: in a player like Marvin Harrison Junior. And the one 818 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 17: thing that really stood out to me with the Cardinals. 819 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 17: Is that when you looked at the numbers or Kyler Murray, 820 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 17: he wasn't it wasn't too bad. But he really struggled 821 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 17: on passes to Marvin Harrison Junior, which seems counterintuitive. It 822 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 17: seems like that should not be the way. But when 823 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 17: he's throwing to Trey McBride or Greg Dort, his numbers 824 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 17: were through the roof. It's when he was going after 825 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 17: Marvin Harrison Junior is when he really took a step back. 826 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 11: But I expect those to kind of. 827 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 17: Progress this season, for them to get on the same 828 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 17: page a little bit more. And one of the things 829 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 17: that I really like this team and what they've done 830 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 17: a really nice job of over the last couple of 831 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 17: years is drafting offensive linemen really well. And last year's pick, 832 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 17: Isaiah Adams has been the talk of camp for Arizona. 833 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 17: Now you sit there and you look at this Cardinals 834 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 17: offensive line. Could it be one of the best offensive 835 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 17: lines in football. It's starting to trend that way, which 836 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 17: could really help the development of this offense. 837 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: Rag I didn't hear a word you just said, because 838 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: let's keep the Kla Murray video up here for a second. 839 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: Is he wearing a kilt. 840 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: I am seeing a very large amount of side leg 841 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: all the way up the top here. 842 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: Rank. It is. 843 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 17: Those are like the track shorts from back in the day. 844 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 17: For the guys who are running the hurdles. You're like, yeah, 845 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 17: I don't want to be constricted as much what I'm 846 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 17: out here running like Edwin Moses. 847 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 11: I need a little bit more flexibility. 848 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 10: It is. 849 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 11: It's a look. It is some of these guys. 850 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 17: I also don't understand the thing with like the crop 851 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 17: top jersey, but then the undershirt is super long, like 852 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 17: I know, like they call it aura and all that stuff. 853 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 17: I do not have that right now. I wear polo shirts. 854 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 17: I understand I should not be talking about fashion. However, 855 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 17: this is definitely a look, not one that you and 856 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 17: I might be able to pull off. 857 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 2: Rank. 858 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Look forward to chatting with you 859 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: again soon. Our coverage of training camps for all thirty 860 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: two teams is really just getting started. We're back tomorrow 861 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: from nine am to newon Eastern with Inside Training Camp Live. 862 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: We'll have full coverage from every camp across the league, 863 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: bring you exclusive interviews, expert analysis, breaking storylines, and more 864 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: on Inside Training Camp Live. 865 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: But first we have more insiders coming up next. 866 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 21: I played with Mason Taylor's dad and uncle, so I 867 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 21: mean kind of fun. What's that like seeing him running 868 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 21: around making I mean, I remember him running around in 869 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 21: Courtland when he was little. Just today, if you remembers 870 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 21: living in New York And he said a little bit, 871 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 21: So it's a crazy world now we kind of we're 872 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 21: in right now. But fun to be around. I mean, 873 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 21: obviously he's a great player, and his family great lineage 874 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 21: of players, so you know, it's it's been fun. 875 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: New Jets kicker Nick Full forty years old with a 876 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: six round pick by the Cowboys back in two thousand 877 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: and seven. Judy, that's one of those boy he must 878 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: feel old moments until you remember we're all older than him. 879 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, because they haven't trained in Courtland in years. So 880 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 7: when he mentioned he remembers Courtland, I was like. 881 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 14: Ooh. 882 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 20: Jeez. 883 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know why anybody enjoys these moments. 884 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 4: These moments are awful, like it's not fun to be like, oh, man, 885 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 4: I remember this guy who used to be a kid 886 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 4: is now a player, Like that's terrible. 887 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to think of that. I'm young at 888 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: least that was. 889 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: That's why Antoine Winfield junior today and he's now a 890 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: established veteran in the league. 891 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: I covered his dad for most of. 892 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: His career up there in Minnesota's got chance to catch 893 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: him with Todd Bowles, who told us. 894 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: This, You're such a mild mannered guy. 895 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 11: Every time we see you walt here. 896 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 1: Do you still have you still have those moments left? 897 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: Fire come up beyond the seat. 898 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 19: Bruce Banner is a moud man guy. 899 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 3: You holk ut, you holk out occasionally, don't you say? 900 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 13: I think I've gotten older? 901 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 11: You know about powers have left me. 902 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles also when talking about Baker Mayfield, said, and 903 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: I quote, we can't put on puppeteer gloves and just 904 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: mush him along for the season. 905 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 2: He's in words of things I've never heard of. Ian Uh. 906 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 2: That's why we love Todd. It's always fun talking to him. 907 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Todd Bowles is one of the best. 908 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 4: And this is why he is a rock star in 909 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 4: this box locker room because of lines like that. Meanwhile, 910 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys brought back an old friend, that is 911 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: Layout Collins. 912 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: Remember Lyle Collins used to be a starter for the Cowboys. 913 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 3: Then wasn't then was anyway? 914 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: Then weekend everybody say Monday 915 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 6: H