1
00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280
Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

2
00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039
Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

3
00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039
Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

4
00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640
Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke.

5
00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560
Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry

6
00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959
Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's what

7
00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520
Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from

8
00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,560
Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here we come.

9
00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,519
Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your host, ra

10
00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. It's time to stop reading other people's success

11
00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,080
Speaker 1: stories and really start writing your own. I want to

12
00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,240
Speaker 1: be leave with your gifts and don't let your age, friends, family,

13
00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 1: or co workers stop you from planning or living your dreams.

14
00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,080
Speaker 1: Those are the guests that I bring on my show

15
00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,880
Speaker 1: for you as a consumer and business owner. I'm giving

16
00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,440
Speaker 1: you access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and people I like

17
00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,000
Speaker 1: to call interesting decision makers. My next guest is she's

18
00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,080
Speaker 1: a celebrity, she's a CEO, she's an entrepreneur, and she

19
00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,400
Speaker 1: truly is an industry decision maker. Her name is Debor

20
00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,960
Speaker 1: Martin Chase. She's the President CEO of Martin Chase Productions.

21
00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,880
Speaker 1: She's currently the executive producer of one of my favorite shows,

22
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,679
Speaker 1: The Equalizer, the TV series for CBS and Universal Students

23
00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,319
Speaker 1: starting My Girl que Latifa. The premiered on Super Bowl Sunday.

24
00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,640
Speaker 1: The Equalizer currently airs every Sunday. You can check it

25
00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,319
Speaker 1: a pm, seven Central again on CBS. Now, let's talk

26
00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 1: about Debor Martin Chase entertain the industry icon trailblazer as

27
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,320
Speaker 1: the first African American female producer to have a deal

28
00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,880
Speaker 1: at any major studio. Ever. I was there. I was

29
00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,600
Speaker 1: watching white known sitcom. I was going, who is she?

30
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,160
Speaker 1: Were like? Ever meet Hi. She's also the first African

31
00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,640
Speaker 1: American woman to produce a film that grossed over one

32
00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,119
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. That was Denzelle's Washington Courage under Fire.

33
00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,960
Speaker 1: To date, her films have grossed over a half billion

34
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,840
Speaker 1: dollars at the box office. Only got two movies, you know,

35
00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,520
Speaker 1: Think like a Man, Think like a Man too. I

36
00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,480
Speaker 1: think I did a hundred and fifty millions, So I

37
00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,840
Speaker 1: ain't close to her. About six years ago, nobody is

38
00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,000
Speaker 1: interested in making movies about women all people of color.

39
00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,960
Speaker 1: My how the landscape has changed for black people and

40
00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,320
Speaker 1: creatives in Hollywood. Please welcome to when to make it

41
00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,000
Speaker 1: a conversation to talk about it, my friend and you

42
00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,800
Speaker 1: stone it devor Martin Chase, So thank you so much,

43
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,000
Speaker 1: such kind words. Thank you well, first of all the

44
00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,880
Speaker 1: three like, I'm Ray Sean McDonald now deveror Martin Chase.

45
00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,000
Speaker 1: How did it become three names? Shame? Well, that's the

46
00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,800
Speaker 1: Houston part. I was married when I got out of

47
00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,799
Speaker 1: law school and moved to Houston, Texas and uh, and

48
00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,440
Speaker 1: since it was the beginning of my career, I kept

49
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760
Speaker 1: the Chase. And then, as I told you, I still

50
00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,920
Speaker 1: have great friends in Houston and the great love of

51
00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,079
Speaker 1: the city. And it's all part of who I am.

52
00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,520
Speaker 1: What part of who you are has been a person

53
00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,560
Speaker 1: that uh, Like I said, my first shitcom job was

54
00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,960
Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey on UH, I think it was ninety

55
00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,520
Speaker 1: three on ABC Me and the Boys, And then I

56
00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,120
Speaker 1: did Parents Who with Robert Towns. And in the meantime,

57
00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,640
Speaker 1: you were already breaking grounds for a very successful career.

58
00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,799
Speaker 1: And let's talk about because you started out the law

59
00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,840
Speaker 1: I started out at IBM. I was an IBM degree

60
00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,720
Speaker 1: is in mathematics, so I can kind of relate to

61
00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,040
Speaker 1: an extreme change because mine was math. These shows was

62
00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,960
Speaker 1: a law and it kind of correlates with the you know,

63
00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,359
Speaker 1: contracts and the business side that goes along with being

64
00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,600
Speaker 1: an executive producer and a person who runs things behind

65
00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,320
Speaker 1: the scenes. Talk about that transition first about the law

66
00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,560
Speaker 1: experience and then transmition into Hollywood. Sure, well, I, um,

67
00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, my beloved late dad was the biggest film

68
00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,600
Speaker 1: and television buff that I ever knew, And so I

69
00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,120
Speaker 1: grew up in a household where we watched films and

70
00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,520
Speaker 1: we watched TV together, and I was that kid that

71
00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,320
Speaker 1: went to the movie theater every Saturday and stayed until

72
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, my mother came to get me. But I

73
00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,720
Speaker 1: didn't know anybody in the business. I didn't know anybody,

74
00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,480
Speaker 1: certainly anybody who looked like me that was behind the

75
00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,840
Speaker 1: scenes in Hollywood. And so I went to law school

76
00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,040
Speaker 1: because you know, I needed to prepare myself for the world.

77
00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I went to Harvard Law School and

78
00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560
Speaker 1: and I started practicing law a big firms and big corporations,

79
00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,440
Speaker 1: and I was a really good lawyer. But I didn't

80
00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,720
Speaker 1: love it, and I just figured, you know, if I'm

81
00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna work this hard, I should go after my dream,

82
00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,480
Speaker 1: which was to make film and television. So, uh, you know,

83
00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,040
Speaker 1: and when and when I left, remember because I was

84
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,239
Speaker 1: in New York at the time and I was working

85
00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,400
Speaker 1: at Avon Products, and my friends were like, oh, you'll

86
00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,320
Speaker 1: be back, You'll be back. When I was like, I'm

87
00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,800
Speaker 1: gonna give this my best shot. Here I am now

88
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,800
Speaker 1: he was interesting because I'm gonna skip around a little

89
00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,440
Speaker 1: bit because I want to definitely get back to the

90
00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,080
Speaker 1: equalizer and didn't talk about your career. Roughly. I was

91
00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,280
Speaker 1: reading this article I think it was in uh, Hollywood Reporter,

92
00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,680
Speaker 1: and it was talking about roughly six years ago. You know,

93
00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 1: the landscape was kind of frustrating for you, and you

94
00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,359
Speaker 1: were considering other options other than entertainment. Am I correcting

95
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,400
Speaker 1: what I was reading? Yeah? Absolutely, And so at that

96
00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,040
Speaker 1: point law was looking like an option again, and then

97
00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,520
Speaker 1: I certainly considered it. You know, I got in this

98
00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,719
Speaker 1: business because when I was growing up, I did not

99
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,000
Speaker 1: see people on screen who looked or felt like me,

100
00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,560
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to break down stereotypes. I wanted

101
00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,200
Speaker 1: to to create images that would empower us and would

102
00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,680
Speaker 1: help people to understand that, you know, they had the

103
00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,800
Speaker 1: power to do whatever they wanted to do in life

104
00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,080
Speaker 1: and to and to make their own dreams come true.

105
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,440
Speaker 1: And there was a period in Hollywood and you know

106
00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,880
Speaker 1: where you know, people weren't interested in making movies about women,

107
00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,479
Speaker 1: about people of color. It was all about the big

108
00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,880
Speaker 1: temp pole movies and and and action movies. And I

109
00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,880
Speaker 1: would walk into offices and people's eyes with glaze over

110
00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,839
Speaker 1: when I told them, you know what I was thinking about,

111
00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200
Speaker 1: and I and so then you just start throwing stuff

112
00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,440
Speaker 1: up against the wall that has no meaning. And that's

113
00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,080
Speaker 1: not how I work, that's not to me, that's that

114
00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,320
Speaker 1: that is not the road to success. And so I

115
00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,080
Speaker 1: was kind of I got to the point where I said, well,

116
00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the universe is telling me that, you know,

117
00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,400
Speaker 1: you've had a good run, but maybe it's time to

118
00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,680
Speaker 1: think about doing something else. Honestly, this is a good

119
00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,400
Speaker 1: story and it's true. And I spent about a year

120
00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,800
Speaker 1: just talking to people because I had the luxury of

121
00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,240
Speaker 1: being at Disney. Um you know, had my company based

122
00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,920
Speaker 1: at Disney for you know, twenty years, and and I

123
00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about what I should do and where I

124
00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,200
Speaker 1: should go. And Vernon Jordan's you know who we just lost,

125
00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,799
Speaker 1: had been a friend and an advisor of mine since

126
00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,040
Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old. His his his daughter's one

127
00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520
Speaker 1: of my best friends. And and I went to go

128
00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,680
Speaker 1: see vern Is I often did, and I told Vernon

129
00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,800
Speaker 1: how I was feeling, and I was thinking about doing

130
00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,560
Speaker 1: other other things, maybe going back to practice law. And

131
00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,720
Speaker 1: Levernon heard me very calmly listen to me pour my

132
00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,160
Speaker 1: heart out, and he looked at me and he said,

133
00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,040
Speaker 1: you know you're too old to do anything else. You

134
00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,440
Speaker 1: need to need to figure out you've invested a lot

135
00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,560
Speaker 1: in the film and television, and figure out how to

136
00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,520
Speaker 1: make that work. And he was right. You know, it's

137
00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,960
Speaker 1: really interesting that because you know, when I left IBM,

138
00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,520
Speaker 1: and you know the whole thought process. You can go back,

139
00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, you you you've mastered the corporate space. That's

140
00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,680
Speaker 1: always an option, but it really is about moving forward.

141
00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,560
Speaker 1: That's all least telling you going back with it? Well, why, well,

142
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,120
Speaker 1: what's there? A lot more confusion, a lot more unknown

143
00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,680
Speaker 1: when you're great, you're fantastic now. But that was just

144
00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,400
Speaker 1: one conversation. But what happened that really set you forward

145
00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,000
Speaker 1: in a positive direction that yes, I can do this again. Yes,

146
00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,880
Speaker 1: this is what I've been born to do, this is

147
00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:02,120
Speaker 1: what this is my dream. This is combination of realizing

148
00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880
Speaker 1: that there were stories that I still very much wanted

149
00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,200
Speaker 1: to tell, and frankly that the business as I was

150
00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,520
Speaker 1: going through my kind of soul searching process, the business

151
00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,920
Speaker 1: started changing and Hollywood finally realized what you and I

152
00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,120
Speaker 1: have been telling it for and many others have been

153
00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,320
Speaker 1: telling it for years, that diversity was not just the

154
00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,679
Speaker 1: right thing to do, but that it was good business.

155
00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,080
Speaker 1: And once Hollywood figured out that there was money that

156
00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,280
Speaker 1: was being left on the table by not you know,

157
00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,920
Speaker 1: telling stories about people of color that you know, people

158
00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,480
Speaker 1: of all ethnicities, you know, white people, black people, Asian

159
00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,520
Speaker 1: people would go see good stories about people of color

160
00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,160
Speaker 1: and about women, it opened up the door. And now

161
00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,240
Speaker 1: it's mean, you know, it's still we still a long

162
00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,360
Speaker 1: way to go, but my god, I mean, look at

163
00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,120
Speaker 1: the number of movies that have been made in the

164
00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,120
Speaker 1: last few years. Look at what's going on in TV.

165
00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,120
Speaker 1: It's really exciting. And so it's funny. And it took

166
00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,600
Speaker 1: me about six years to get Harriet made. And Harriet

167
00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of covered that territory from the beginning where people

168
00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,080
Speaker 1: are like, oh, historical movie about a black woman, I

169
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know to you know, towards the end it was like, oh, yes,

170
00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, hidden figures that happened and I did a

171
00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,520
Speaker 1: lot of money. It was like they could see the

172
00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360
Speaker 1: potential of telling an action story about a woman of color.

173
00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480
Speaker 1: You know. It's really interesting because you know, because you

174
00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,080
Speaker 1: were like me, we were there that I'm a writer,

175
00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,640
Speaker 1: your producer, you're a writer too. And so from that standpoint,

176
00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,319
Speaker 1: we went through that whole reality series, you know, where

177
00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,080
Speaker 1: black people, especially black women, were not featured in a

178
00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,839
Speaker 1: very favorable manner, fighting, cussing, drinking party and and so

179
00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,640
Speaker 1: this hair out. Oh my god. So so with that process,

180
00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,960
Speaker 1: I know, you had to be really sick to your

181
00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,240
Speaker 1: stomach that that period right there. And I'm not saying

182
00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,840
Speaker 1: reality shows have changed that much, but now we have

183
00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,480
Speaker 1: ramas and comedies and docuseris allows us to give us

184
00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,360
Speaker 1: solid balance and tell black stories better. But that period,

185
00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,520
Speaker 1: because I was doing the Neighborhood Awards with Steve Harvey

186
00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,920
Speaker 1: and we would we couldn't even get really presenters because

187
00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,200
Speaker 1: there weren't any black celebrities on TV. Or in the business.

188
00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,200
Speaker 1: It was really a dark period. And so from a

189
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 1: creative standpoint, I know what led you to that thought

190
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,280
Speaker 1: process because guess what, Hollywood wasn't even trying to put

191
00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,040
Speaker 1: the scripted idea in a black person's hand at all.

192
00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,800
Speaker 1: Like I said, literally, I can't. I'm sitting here as

193
00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking. I can remember the meetings where people's eyes

194
00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,319
Speaker 1: they just with glaze over, They just like had no

195
00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,560
Speaker 1: appreciation for for you know what I was talking about,

196
00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,160
Speaker 1: and no interest now you know, and part of and

197
00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, and frankly, one of the things is Los

198
00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,800
Speaker 1: Angeles is a very segregated city. And I think that,

199
00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, while the rest of the country was more

200
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,920
Speaker 1: integrated and kind of embracing different cultures, l A was

201
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,480
Speaker 1: slow to come to the table to understand that that

202
00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,320
Speaker 1: many people are interested in the stories of all people.

203
00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,240
Speaker 1: Now let's let's let's get back to you know why

204
00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,040
Speaker 1: you really came on this show. You come on to

205
00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,600
Speaker 1: the show to talk to Rochelle. You got this hit

206
00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,960
Speaker 1: shell on TV called The Equalizes and with Queen Latifa. Um,

207
00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,959
Speaker 1: now I ask you this for My first question is

208
00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,160
Speaker 1: premier after the Super Bowl. Okay, okay, Devil Okay, devil,

209
00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,920
Speaker 1: You've done a lot of great things in your life. Okay,

210
00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,440
Speaker 1: certain phone calls come to you, You're like, you got

211
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,600
Speaker 1: to be kiddy. When how did that started, that opportunity

212
00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,200
Speaker 1: break for you and how did you react? Where were

213
00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,800
Speaker 1: you at when they told you that your series was

214
00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna premiere, was gonna be out to the super funny

215
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,160
Speaker 1: we were We were shooting because we we are we

216
00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,000
Speaker 1: are well. We are based at the Eyad Center at

217
00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,120
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands in New Jersey. This is below me or

218
00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,600
Speaker 1: is the arena floor, and our standing sets are there.

219
00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,360
Speaker 1: My office here is a skybox at the ead Center.

220
00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,960
Speaker 1: We do some exteriors in New York, but we shoot

221
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,880
Speaker 1: a lot in New Jersey. That night, we were in Bayonne,

222
00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:14,640
Speaker 1: New Jersey, at an oil supply field. That was nasty.

223
00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,480
Speaker 1: It was freezing cold, and I got this text from

224
00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,320
Speaker 1: the head of drama at Universal Television saying, you know, um,

225
00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,920
Speaker 1: we need to have a call immediately with CBS. You know,

226
00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,880
Speaker 1: can you get the other executive producers together in in

227
00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,240
Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes? And we were like okay, and we

228
00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,480
Speaker 1: really didn't know what the call was. We were like,

229
00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,199
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know over budget you know like that,

230
00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,480
Speaker 1: and uh, George Cheeks, who is the head of CBS,

231
00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,160
Speaker 1: was on the call and he said, guys, are good

232
00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,559
Speaker 1: news for you. We believe in this show. We believed

233
00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,880
Speaker 1: in it from the very beginning, and we're putting you

234
00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,000
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and we were just like, oh my,

235
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, it was like, oh my god, Um, it's huge.

236
00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,599
Speaker 1: It was huge. It was huge, you know. And I

237
00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,720
Speaker 1: saw the premier and after following the series every since,

238
00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,640
Speaker 1: and you know, when it was announced, you know, we

239
00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,960
Speaker 1: had Denzel and they had the original series and Queen

240
00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,080
Speaker 1: latif you know, because I know the role has some

241
00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,719
Speaker 1: type of physicality tied to it if you want to

242
00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,240
Speaker 1: have some type of credibility. And so my original thought was,

243
00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,520
Speaker 1: can queen the teeth handing the physicality tied to this role?

244
00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,120
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you from the pilot series on where

245
00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,760
Speaker 1: she walked in that uh whatever room where the where

246
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,719
Speaker 1: the young lady was taken in and yeah, yeah, and

247
00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,319
Speaker 1: she broke off to the gun, kicked him in the corner,

248
00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,680
Speaker 1: shot him and and walked out of that went Okay,

249
00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,599
Speaker 1: this is a hit serious right here. This is a

250
00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,800
Speaker 1: hit serious because you know, everything is tied to credibility,

251
00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,920
Speaker 1: and to me, that was the credibility moment for me

252
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,599
Speaker 1: in this series and walking through that whole process of

253
00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,439
Speaker 1: bringing Queenlitief on board talking about the physicality and horizon

254
00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:01,440
Speaker 1: to the occasion. Yeah, so funny. So our show at

255
00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,480
Speaker 1: the you know, the Denzel movie franchise is great and

256
00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:11,160
Speaker 1: it's been enormously successful. They took the basic idea and

257
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,520
Speaker 1: and and built from there. Our show is based on

258
00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,160
Speaker 1: the original nineteen eighties show. Those are the rights that

259
00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,320
Speaker 1: we have and um so I but you know, Dan

260
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,360
Speaker 1: and I go way back. We actually actually shot Just Right,

261
00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,000
Speaker 1: partial portions of Just Right, the movie we did together

262
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,920
Speaker 1: here at the Eyes o Zener, which is really you know,

263
00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,360
Speaker 1: great symmetry. And I've been trying to get back in

264
00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,920
Speaker 1: business together and I brought her in to have a

265
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,520
Speaker 1: meeting with Universal TV, where I have my deal and

266
00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,360
Speaker 1: Perlina the Bokway, who was the head of You TV

267
00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,880
Speaker 1: then is now the head of the Universal Studio group.

268
00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,360
Speaker 1: An amazing you know black woman was there and she said,

269
00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, clean, but we have a few ideas for you,

270
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,160
Speaker 1: like we want to talk to you about. And the

271
00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,920
Speaker 1: first one was was equalizer and honest to uh there

272
00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,920
Speaker 1: was a moment of silence, and then Dana said yes,

273
00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,000
Speaker 1: like like, and I think everybody in the room could

274
00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,920
Speaker 1: see her in the role. It just made sense. And then,

275
00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, we we have amazing showrunners Terry Miller and

276
00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,160
Speaker 1: Andrew Marlowe, and they and our other executive producers, we

277
00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,600
Speaker 1: all got the role was built for her. We spent

278
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,120
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about what the show should be,

279
00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,480
Speaker 1: what the role should be. You know. Then Queen Latifa

280
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 1: spent time on her own with the creators of the show,

281
00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,440
Speaker 1: so they really got a sense of her and her

282
00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,800
Speaker 1: voice and crafted a character that reflected who she was,

283
00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,240
Speaker 1: her essence, her strength, and and and her beauty. But

284
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, from the very beginning, it was really important

285
00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,200
Speaker 1: to all of us and and really important to Queen

286
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,040
Speaker 1: Latifa to your point, that the action be credible. She's like,

287
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,800
Speaker 1: I got you know, I got a I got a brand,

288
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,880
Speaker 1: I got an image. I cannot go out there cap big.

289
00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,520
Speaker 1: So she trained, we have experts as she works with

290
00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,840
Speaker 1: with the for the guns and those fight sequences. She

291
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,160
Speaker 1: does a lot of it herself. Uh, and she's great.

292
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,920
Speaker 1: It's great. I think it's great. And obviously she rides

293
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,840
Speaker 1: motorcycles in real life, so that we we we put

294
00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480
Speaker 1: that in there because we knew that was organic to her.

295
00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,520
Speaker 1: It's finally here, the season of celebration, and no matter

296
00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,800
Speaker 1: how you celebrate with family and friends, whether you're preparing

297
00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,480
Speaker 1: for reys, magos or Karamu lighting the Manura, are going

298
00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400
Speaker 1: to midnight mass, Coals has just what you need to

299
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,200
Speaker 1: make those traditions special. Plus you'll find gifts for all

300
00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,920
Speaker 1: your loved ones. Send warm wishes with Cozy Fleece's sweaters, loungeware,

301
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,880
Speaker 1: blankets and throws. Support minority owned or founded brands by

302
00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,640
Speaker 1: giving gifts from human Nation and shame moisture, or treat

303
00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,840
Speaker 1: them to everyone's favorite active wear from top brands like Nike, Adidas,

304
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,680
Speaker 1: under Armor, and in the spirit of giving, Coals Cares

305
00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,040
Speaker 1: is donating eight million dollars to local nonprofits nationwide committed

306
00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,800
Speaker 1: to the health and well being of our communities. No

307
00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,120
Speaker 1: matter how you celebrate, when you shop at Coals, you're

308
00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520
Speaker 1: right where you belong. So this season, give with all

309
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,000
Speaker 1: your heart with great gifts from Coals or Coals dot Com.

310
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,680
Speaker 1: Whether your event needed one room or an entire conference center,

311
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,520
Speaker 1: Hoppin has revolutionized the way people come together. With hoppin,

312
00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,920
Speaker 1: you can host a fully fledged digital meet up, complete

313
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,520
Speaker 1: with one on one meetings, hands on sessions, and expo booths.

314
00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,320
Speaker 1: And because everything is hosted in a single, easy to

315
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,840
Speaker 1: use platform, it can be as big or small as

316
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840
Speaker 1: you want, remain convenient for anyone who wants to attend,

317
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,399
Speaker 1: and give you access to data you never would have

318
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,080
Speaker 1: known otherwise. Visit hoppin dot com to learn more and

319
00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,560
Speaker 1: get started. Still living in and manually taking notes, start

320
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 1: the new year with otter dot ai to generate automatic

321
00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 1: notes for meetings, interviews, or lectures. With auto dot ai,

322
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 1: you can search the meeting notes, insert images, play back

323
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,199
Speaker 1: the audio, and share them with your friends or coworkers.

324
00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 1: You can capture action items, remember meeting details, and keep

325
00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,840
Speaker 1: everyone informed. Auto dot ai works for in person or

326
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,320
Speaker 1: virtual meetings like Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Google meet. Sign

327
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840
Speaker 1: up for free at auto dit ai or download the

328
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,280
Speaker 1: app for free auto dot ai. That's O T T

329
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 1: E R dot Ai. Well, you know the thing about

330
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 1: it is, first of all, you said beauty, beautiful. You

331
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: know everybody got h D four K five K whatever

332
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,159
Speaker 1: I'm looking at, I look at that show that go

333
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:40,680
Speaker 1: she looks fantastic. She is absolutely a beautiful woman. I'm going,

334
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,280
Speaker 1: by the way, you're very beautiful as well. You look

335
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,640
Speaker 1: fantastic as well. I'm trying to figure out what cream

336
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,160
Speaker 1: y'all doing on that's set so I could just roll

337
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: up in that little jit Jersey said, can you put

338
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 1: some o rashaw because I looked at because I'm going

339
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 1: like because that they know that that that captured me

340
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,919
Speaker 1: in the pilot and every episode is how great she looks,

341
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 1: skin looks fantastic, and that carries carries over, I think

342
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 1: into the way she carries herself through the series. You know,

343
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159
Speaker 1: she carries herself as a very confident person that she

344
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 1: has the issues with a daughter, which humanizes her. It

345
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 1: makes her vulnerable, it makes her not feel so perfect.

346
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 1: Is that if you know in the streets precisely the

347
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 1: point and because what she Robin McCall represents most women

348
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 1: who have to balance career and family and personal life.

349
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: Now obviously in this case it's you know, she's former

350
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 1: c I agent who's you know, kicking butt on a

351
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 1: regular basis. But it's just you know, it's it's exaggerated

352
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 1: by TV turn, but it's a real it's a real

353
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 1: balancing act that every woman does it juggling, and I

354
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: think that is what makes her very relatable to both

355
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 1: men and women. Men are juggling too, you know, our

356
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 1: our lives are complicated, and so we like to say,

357
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, she can take down the bad it's criminal,

358
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: but she can't. It's hard for her to stand up

359
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 1: to her sixteen year old thoughts. And that's that's the

360
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: beauty of when you when you building our characters and

361
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: then and you've been known for developing characters and making

362
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: sure the characters are flushed out, and that's what I

363
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 1: appreciate that because I hate to not watching the movie

364
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not engaged or the character doesn't get me

365
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: emotionally attached to their problems. And that's really what really

366
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: is one of the one of the true successes behind

367
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: the equalizes are correct. Yes, yeah, because she's a fully

368
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 1: fleshed out human human being woman us you'll see, you know,

369
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 1: we've got romance coming and everything else. But yes, I

370
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 1: mean I believe character comes first because if you can

371
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 1: relate to the people, then you're then you will take

372
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: any journey with them. And honestly, that's something may have

373
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: always been a storyteller and I, you know, it was

374
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: a preporacious reader growing up. But also you know, I

375
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: ran Denzel Washington's company early on in my career here,

376
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 1: and that was one of the things I learned from him,

377
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: was how to approach things from the character perspective. And

378
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: uh and and I you know, it is how I

379
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: live now. You get this big opportunity every coming into

380
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I'm gonna have a conversation about COVID

381
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 1: and eighteen and the production and how you wrapping up

382
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: because you know, medical safety, safety or the cast and

383
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: safety of the production team is is what what moments

384
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: in the beginning and what moments that have allowed you

385
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: to have more freedom now in the production of the

386
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: show their equalizer. Well, listen, it's been a challenge. It's

387
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 1: a challenge for for everybody who's in production right now.

388
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: It's enormously expensive. I test every day, as does a

389
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: significant portion of our crew, and certainly anybody who comes

390
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: in contact with the actors, because the actors are you know,

391
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 1: there's no show without the actors. But they're the most

392
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: vulnerable because they have to work with no masks on.

393
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: So we've got um you know, and and and and

394
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: everything is slower. You know, location scouting is slower. You

395
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: know the fact that everybody has to test takes time

396
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: out of your day. Um, you've got you know, we've

397
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: got masks and shields on all day long. So funny.

398
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: We always laugh and say, at some point, you know,

399
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to take these off and we

400
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: won't recognize each other because we see me most of

401
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: my crew without a mask on. So it's and and

402
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: also you know, particularly in the beginning, because we started

403
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: shooting November nine, when it was a different time, there

404
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: was no vaccine yet, people are scared and so that

405
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, they're nervous and and they're nervous about being

406
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean most of us have gone from being in

407
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: our homes relatively isolated with a little bubble too. I

408
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: work with two hundred people every day in an arena,

409
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: which is a luxury in these times. But you know,

410
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: in the beginning, people were scared and nervous and like,

411
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, am I gonna you know, it's just

412
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: am I gonna get sick? So um, Universal, NBC. Universal

413
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: has been incredibly responsible and CBS and safety has really

414
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: come first. But it's tough you know, the thing about

415
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: it is that when I look at you know, we

416
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: talked about our frustrations and seeing you know, scripted and

417
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: black storytelling you cast aside for reality. And then but

418
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: I think that it was really health us is the

419
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 1: streaming industry, streaming television there they're the need for content,

420
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: and then when the content was presented, we delivered talk

421
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: about the the change in the shifting the industry and

422
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: how it has impacted in a very good way Black

423
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: programming absolutely and kind of the fundamental differences. The movie

424
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: studios have moved to making tent pole movies that appear

425
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: to the widest possible audience globally, and that's that's how

426
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: they justify their you know, their cost structure and how

427
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: they make money. The network television, similarly, is making shows

428
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: that appeal to the widest possible audience and that appeal globally,

429
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: so you're not you know, to find distinctive voices to

430
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: support those in those environments is really hard, whereas streaming,

431
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is more about niche marketing, and

432
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: so you can have uh, you know, Insecure, which was

433
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: on HBO, but still you know, cable cable and streaming,

434
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: which because it doesn't you know, doesn't have eight million

435
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: viewers every week, but has a very loyal following and

436
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: is a hit in that sense because it's all they

437
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: just you know, the streamers and and premium cable. They're

438
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: about subscribers. So if they can if a show appeals

439
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: to a certain you know, subscriber piece of of the

440
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: base and they are loyal followers, that's that's what their

441
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: businesses to build up those different audiences into one great audience.

442
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: So it's hugely beneficial to diverse storytellers. It really is personal,

443
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: like you were saying, HBO and insecure and not in

444
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: the HBO Max, which is their streaming affiliated. Really they're

445
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: building that out more than they building that HBO because

446
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: of the content can be found on HBO Max. And

447
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: the beauty of what I like about there were about

448
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: the whole world of streaming is that you know, from

449
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: a movie, movie, movie selling, if you're a black lead,

450
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: it was going to be domestic. They wouldn't even walk

451
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: internationally with you, and so so a self fulfilling prophecy,

452
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: right right, And so what you like, I'm just using

453
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: Netflix as an example, a hundred in any countries. So

454
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: when they premiere a Black project on Netflix. It premieres

455
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: and a hundred in any countries, so there's no discrimination

456
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: about the content and everybody gets an equal chance to

457
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: enjoy the product. And I really feel that that's where

458
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: we're going with it. And that's when I say, my

459
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: have times Change and my have Chimes change is really tame.

460
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: It's really tied to the content avenues that we get

461
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: to tell our stories. And it's great people like you,

462
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: Devil Martin Chase, they're telling it. They've changed Charge Chase tremendously,

463
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: and I can't. I think it's it's it is. It

464
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: is the streaming and cable and and and a different

465
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: appetite and the demand for content. Mean, you know, content

466
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: is needed across the board, and it's really realization that

467
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: people will, you know that white people will watch shows

468
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: with the Black League. I mean Shonda, you know, her

469
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: shows are really important in in the dynamic of all this.

470
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Because Raising Anatomy came on with the fabulously diverse Castle

471
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: was a huge hit and people say, Okay, you know

472
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be just one one that one

473
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: black person. It can be black people in major roles.

474
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: Then Scandal, Scandal was huge because you know, it was

475
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: like the second show on network TV that had a

476
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: black lead and in ABC was nervous at first, but

477
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: to the Clinic, now you had Shonda, you had Channing

478
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Dungee was there, that was at a drama, and you

479
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: have the fact that that Olivia Pope was loosely based

480
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: upon Judy Smith, the very successful black crisis publicist, So

481
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: it was hard not to cast a black woman and

482
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: that was a huge success. And then it kind of

483
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: went from there. So it's look, I'm just I'm happy

484
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: that I'm still in the in the business right now

485
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: to take advantage of where we are right now. Well,

486
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: first of all, you are fantastic. I want to thank

487
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: you for coming on the series Money Making Conversation to

488
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: talk the Equalizer starting Queen lat for every Sunday you

489
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: gotta hit you on your hand every Sunday eight o'clock

490
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: after sixty minutes, CBS again gave us a great real

491
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: So we are you know, please keep coming. Thank you

492
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: so much for everybody for your support. We appreciate it.

493
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: We're working hard to continue to make a great show.

494
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: And and thank you well, you know, out of them

495
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: on my clothes and you know, we got the Queen

496
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: B Beyonce out of Houston. Now we got the Queen C.

497
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: That's up. Devnmartin Chase out of Houston. Third War Texas, y'all.

498
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: Queen see right, I own on with Queen C. Yeah,

499
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Devernmartin Chase, Third War Texas, y'all. I came from fear

500
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: for it. So three and five, that makes eight. We're good.

501
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the show. Devernmartin Chase, Thank

502
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: you so much. This has been such fun talking to you.

503
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: You're great. Yeah, I love it. And Dell Queen Latifa,

504
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: we've been trying to get on Steve Harvey, I mean

505
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: Steve and Stephen AG's World because we would because we

506
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: want to help promote the show. So we're gonna reach

507
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: out again. It was definitely we're gonna reach out again

508
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: because yeah, it was a off flicking the schedule, but

509
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: we definitely want to promote your brand because Stephen Stephen

510
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: Stephen A is a big fan of your devor on,

511
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: a tremendous fan of quiunity for in any way I

512
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: can promote positive black projects, and this is an amazingly

513
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: great black project hewned by an amazing black iconic figure

514
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: and entertainment industry named Devon Walton Chase. Thank you, Thank

515
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: you so much, Thank you. If you want to hear

516
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: more interviews of Seaboy interviews and money Making Conversations, please

517
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: go to money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald.

518
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: I am your host. In this season of giving, Cools

519
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: has gifts for all your loved ones. For those who

520
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: like to keep it cozy, find fleeces, sweaters, loungeware, blankets

521
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: and throws. Or support minority owned or founded brands by

522
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: giving gifts from Human Nation and Shame Moisture. And in

523
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: the spirit of giving, Cole's Cares is donating eight million

524
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: dollars to local nonprofits nationwide. Give with all your heart

525
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: this season with great gifts from Coal or Coals dot com.

526
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: Still living in manually taking notes, There is a better

527
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: way start the new year with auto dot ai automatically

528
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: get meeting notes. Auto dot ai works for virtual meetings

529
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: like Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and Google Meet. Sign up on

530
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: the web for free or download in the app stores

531
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: auto dot ai. That's O T t E R dot Ai.

532
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm Tanya Sam, host of the Money Moves podcast powered

533
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: by Greenwood This daily podcast will help give you the

534
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: keys to the Kingdom of financial stability, wealth and abundance.

535
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: With celebrity guests like Rick Ross, Amanda Sells, Angela Ye, Roland, Martin, JB. Smooth,

536
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: and Terrell Owens. Tune in to learn how to turn

537
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: liabilities into assets and make your money moved. Subscribe to

538
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: the Money Moves podcast powered by Greenland on the I

539
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts, and

540
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: make sure you leave a review