1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: I love them. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of them. 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 4: Let's hear that both the next big job. 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 5: There Cooktufa prec Feruck. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 6: I to believe there are a couple of absolutely self 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 6: involvedle God. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: That shot, I'm gone, all right? So for a radio guy, Kenny, 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 4: this is what it's all about. This kind of feels 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: like Monday through Friday. Right, we get this midwek show. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 4: We get a chance to react. Great to be back 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 4: in your life for a second time this week, no 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 4: less Wednesday, January twenty five, twenty twenty three, Episode three 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 4: eighty three of the ancon Florian Podcast. And let's get 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 4: right into it, ken flow, because it gives us a 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: chance to react to some news. And as Yuri Prohaska 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: told Ariel Hilwani on MMA Fighting dot Com on Monday, 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: everything is going great. Next week, I'm going to Vegas 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: to continue in rehabilitation and all these processes to be 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 4: quick to have the fastest way back possible. I don't 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: want to be too fast for the shoulder, but it's 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: getting much better. Than everybody expects, So I'm happy for that. 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: I think I can be back in July or August 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: something like that, six or seven months, something like that. 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: So we were told this was the most devastating shoulder 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: injury in UFC history, and in part that's why we 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: did not have him as a part of our conversation 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: forty eight hours ago when we were talking about the 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: first title defense for one Jamal Hill, and we were 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: talking about Alex Paneda and Anthony Smith and Maka, about 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: Anklia and everybody else. So I don't even know what 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: to believe. I haven't seen so much as a scar 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: on Yuri Prohsken unless I'm not paying attention. But it 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: sounds like this guy might be ready come this summer, 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: and that would seemingly dovetail with the new UFC Light 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Heavyweight champion, maybe International Fight Week thereafter. I don't know, 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: but I don't know. Man, people are honest for not 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: including Uriprohusk his name in the mix. I guess he's 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: ready to go in six months. Absolutely crazy. 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 5: You know, the worst shoulder injury ever hasn't met Uri 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: Prohsca before, So that's the problem. 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: Uri just an absolute beast. I love to hear that. 45 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: You know, typically you'll hear a lot of doctors, especially 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: with athletes, give you the worst case scenario to prepare 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 5: for that kind of mentally and get you ready for 48 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: the long road to to you know, rehabilitation. 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 7: And uh. 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 5: You know, I'm hoping that, you know, obviously everything continues 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 5: to go well for him and we see him back 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 5: as soon as possible. I think he's one of the 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 5: most exciting fighters into sport. 54 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: Uh. And and that's just great news. Built different, I 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: guess would be one way to describe it. And certainly 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: we saw with Damar Hamlin, the Buffalo Bill safety who 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: recovered remarkably after going into cardio cardiac arrest on the field. 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: You know, young athletes really have a pension for recovering quickly, 59 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 4: and seemingly that is the case with Uri pro Hoska. 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: And that's great news because obviously that title fight pro 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 4: Hosk and Jamal Hill is absolutely fascinating if indeed that 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 4: is the next fight. A lot coming up to today. 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: Brian Petrie is coming up in about two minutes. We 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 4: will also talk to fight Ready head pro MMA coach 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: Santino Defronco. He's got a book out and obviously a 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: lot of high profile UFC and MMA athletes as well. 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: Boston Bruins, by the way Ken flow in the National 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: Hockey League right thirty eight five and four fastest team 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: to eighty points in NHL history after a win over 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: the Montreal Canadians last night, I am going to see 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: the Boston Bruins against the Florida Panthers here in three days. 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: We're sitting in Row two, me and my children. It's 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: a six pm start, so it'll be a little little 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: late for the little guy Hunter, but he'll be okay. 75 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: But I'm very excited to see the Bruins, so I 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: wanted to get that out there, and one other thing 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: before we get to Petrie. So you know, my daughter 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: broke her toe, and right now we find out it 79 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 4: might actually be broken in two places. We're not sure, 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: but it's interesting right here, an honest pediatric orthoped to say, 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: you know, if she was a pro, I might consider 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: putting a screw in it to try to get her 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: back more quickly. You know, like a lot of pediatric 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: orthopedis might not say that to you. So I thought 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: that was very interesting. Needless to say, my daughter's not professional, 86 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 4: so we will not be putting a screw in her 87 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: big toe, but it's the boot for another month. You know. 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: It's funny. The only thing that I've actually broken was 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: in soccer. It was a toe. 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: It was my fifth metat Tarsel playing soccer. I'm sure 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: I broke my notes before. 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: But you know, as far as like you know, I've 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: did MMA my whole life, and the only thing that 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: really I had as far as a broken bone was 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: from soccer. But I hope she recovers quick man. That's 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: good crazy, good jeans for ken flow and yeah, you 97 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: got to have broken the nose at some point in time. 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: Good defense probably better than anything else. All right, A 99 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: lot to get to today as we continue our UFC 100 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: two eighty three recap, and it gives me great pleasure 101 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: to bring into the conversation host of the MMA Takes podcast, 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: Brian Petrie handicapper to the stars at Brian Petrie MMA. 103 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 4: What's up, eh boy? Snatty football? Bengals? You know anak 104 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: and Florian podcast host Jason anik As as sort of 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: respectfully as he could say this publicly, you know, felt 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: like the Cincinnati Bengals got absolutely hosed. So nice to 107 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 4: see them in the final four in the AFC Championship game. 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: Yes, Jay sent me a very nice text. When we 109 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: pretty much wrapped it up Saturday, I thought, I mean 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: I I played the Bengals money lines. There were plus 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: two ten, which I thought was very disrespectful, very little 112 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: baby beat. But I want to play the over because 113 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: I thought the overs shure thing hip good thing. I 114 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: did it because it didn't go over. Rather Tho be 115 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: points points points points. But the Bengals just shut him 116 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: down in the snow. Now we're getting the Oh the 117 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: Bengals wore the all whites, that's why they you know, 118 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: the Bills couldn't see him in this snow. We're getting 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: all this bullshit because no one wants to respect the 120 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. But you know, we got Joe Seisty back there. 121 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: We got a good team. You know, we start zero 122 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: and two and now we're on this run. And we 123 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: got to do with Kansas City again in with a 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: high ankles brain Mahomes, which I think we're goo to do. 125 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: That line moved. I don't know if you saw that, Johnny. 126 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: It open. We were plus three and a half dogs. 127 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: Now we're currently favorites on some books. Yeah, yeah, line move. 128 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: It can't be more excited, man. 129 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: Very exciting stuff. So I think a lot of the 130 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 4: nation was rooting for the Buffalo Bills in part because 131 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: it's a star franchise, not that the Cincinnati Bengals or not. 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: The Bengals didn't go to the Super Bowl last year, 133 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: and obviously you and I both know the Cincinnati Bengals 134 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: let one get away last year, right, But as a 135 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: New England Patriots fan, it's just really hard to get 136 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: myself in a rooting direction for the New York Jets. 137 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins are the Buffalo Bills, right, So, as 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: a lot of our listenership knows, you know, I place 139 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: bets on the Buffalo Bills to try to take them 140 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: down so as for them to lose, right. So I 141 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: thought it might give you some pleasure today for me 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: to rip up all my Buffalo Bills tickets live on 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: the air in front of you. So let's just see 144 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: what we have here before we get back into the 145 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: UFC two eighty three stuff. So here's a bet placed 146 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: on April twenty ninth, two twenty two at Mandala Bay 147 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: or MGM at plus six fifty bills to win the 148 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, two hundred to pay fifteen hundred or as 149 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: we'd like to say, two hundred to pay zero. You know, 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: we take down the Buffalo bills, take them back, all right, honey, sorry, honey, 151 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: all right. This next one is this was placed on 152 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: July first, twenty twenty two. You know, got a couple 153 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: extra hundred bucks in the pocket, leave in Vegas, just 154 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: trying to take the Buffalo bills down. Plus six hundred 155 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: placed at Red Rock two hundred to pay two hundred 156 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: to pay twelve hundred ors we like to say two 157 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: hundred to pay there. We'll rip that up, Buffalo bills. 158 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: I'll win the Super Bowl this year. Buffalo bill's on 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: winning the Super Bowl this year. And then finally June 160 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: twenty seven, so a few days prior at Red Rock, 161 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 4: what a degenerate three hundred dollars to pay eighteen hundred 162 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: on the Buffalo wills to win the Super Bowl zero. 163 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, John. As a of a Cincinnati Bengals fan, 164 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: I think I can speak for the beautiful city of 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: CINCINNETI thank you for taking down the Buffalo bills for us. 166 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: That was much needed. Everyone was on the Bills. I 167 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: felt like, I mean, listen, they're a team that can 168 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: owner in your root for Buffalo is a type of city. 169 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: You know, some people called it town. It's not really 170 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: a city. It's very cool. They jump through tables all 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: that stuff. That's great. But you know, I can't believe 172 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: how many Pats fans root for the Bills. That's crazy 173 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: to me. Like a lot of bars guys I love Barstool, 174 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: A lot of those Barstol guys like Sneaky. You'll never 175 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: catch me rooting for the Steelers, the Browns of the Ravens. Ever, 176 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: I was so shocked that people are doing that. It's 177 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: weird to me. 178 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you won't find that on the Anakim Florian podcast. 179 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: You won't find a lot of Buffalo Bills support. All right, 180 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: I want to share with you guys some quotes from 181 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 4: John Hackeman, dear friend of the program, and we have 182 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 4: message privately he does want to come talk about this fight. 183 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: So either on Instagram live or on the antikin Floran 184 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: podcast channel or here on the DraftKings YouTube channel, at 185 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: some point you're going to hear from Hack. But these 186 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: are the quotes, and I think candidly when we sit 187 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: down with him, you're going to hear a lot of 188 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: this as well. If you don't know, he told Mma 189 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: Fighting that he is going to hear Toofore retire from 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: cornering and on the broadcast if you I missed it, 191 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: you know, I sort of suggested after round four that 192 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: if I know John Hackelman the way I think I do, 193 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: he's going to try to stop this fight. And then 194 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: I was able to read his lips and he said 195 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: something to the effect of can we stop this thing? 196 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: So here the quotes from John Hackelman. I'm a known 197 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: fight stopper in between rounds. I'm kind of known for that, 198 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: maybe a little too much at times. But I thought 199 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: this was a good time to stop it. I was 200 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: out voted in the corner and I'm going to read these. 201 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 4: They may be a little bit out of order, but 202 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: win or lose, Glover would have retired. He's ready, he's 203 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 4: done enough, he's proved enough. I just don't like to 204 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: see guys get any kind of beatings or brain damage. 205 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: I'm just real quick on the gun. I'm thankful they 206 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: didn't stop it. I know this wouldn't have gone well 207 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: with anyone. It would have made a lot of people 208 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: really unhappy, and I don't want it to be about me. 209 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: I would have thrown it in after the third round, though, 210 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: I would have been completely happy with the fight stopping there. 211 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: I saw no reason for it to go on after that, 212 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: and of course it went on for ten minutes thereafter. 213 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: When my fighters fight, I can't put myself in their place. 214 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: I wish my trainers would have stopped a couple fights earlier. 215 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: They never stop fights back in the day, especially boxing. 216 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: I love these guys, but it's also not good for them. 217 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure I've taken away a lot of potential wins. 218 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: Imagine if Uri pro Hosk's corner threw in the towel 219 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 4: in the middle of the fifth round against Glover to 220 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: shera and then he goes on to say this, Kenny, 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 4: and I really wanted you to hear this. Glover's smiling, 222 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: telling everyone he's fine, even though you could tell he wasn't. 223 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 4: I'm so good right now. I love life. I love this. 224 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: But he wasn't saying it with a little less you know, 225 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: or he was saying it with a little less right. 226 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: His mouth wasn't moving as much. That's for sure, that's 227 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: my last cornering. I'm never going to work a corner again. Kenny, 228 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: your thoughts on all that cam ploy you're muted. I 229 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 4: love you, though. This is a guy sorry about that. 230 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: This is a guy, John Hackelman, who knows Glover and 231 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: has been with Glover longer than any of those guys. 232 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: He has known Glover well over a decade, and he 233 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: understands where Glover was at way back when, over a 234 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: decade ago, to where he's at now, and if he's 235 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 5: seeing him react differently, even though you know you have to. 236 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 5: It's not just what someone is saying, it's what they're doing. 237 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: It's how they're acting, It's how they're you know, what 238 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 5: their mannerisms are, like, all those little subtle things or 239 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 5: things that like a guy like John Hackeman is going 240 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: to pick up. I tweeted something yesterday. You know, how 241 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: do you decide on stopping a fight early or late? 242 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: I think a lot of it has to do with 243 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 5: you know, and I guess I'll just read, does the 244 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 5: completion of this fight tonight help this fighter perform better tomorrow? 245 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 5: Or does the fight tonight hurt to hurt them and 246 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: performing better tomorrow. Right, It's like, what are they gaining out. 247 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: Of this performance? 248 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 5: You know, even in the win, it's like maybe that 249 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: extra two minutes of fight time takes away their ability 250 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 5: to have seven, eight, nine, ten fights or hurts their ability, 251 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: you know, to be quicker or to react quicker, all 252 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 5: these things that could be devastating to a fighter. You know, 253 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: you go back, whether it's boxing or mma, you see 254 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 5: fighters after that fight they are not the same, not 255 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 5: because of confidence, because physically they are more disabled than 256 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: they were before. So these are the things that we 257 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 5: need to take into consideration. Is you know, how much 258 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 5: are we investing you know now to get later on? 259 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: And sometimes it's just not worth the squeeze and you 260 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: have to cut your loss and say, you know what 261 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 5: we're going to live to be you know, stop right now, 262 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: stop this fight so we can be better next time. 263 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 5: Because a lot of times you see this and the 264 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 5: and the warrior comes out and you love to see it, 265 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 5: but if they don't have a chance in winning that fight, 266 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: or if you feel like that extra two minutes is 267 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,359 Speaker 5: going to hurt your fighter in the future. 268 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: Then you know you got to stop the fight. 269 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: It's the health of the fighter versus the career of 270 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 5: the fighter, and sometimes that gets very hazy. I'll definitely 271 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 5: admit that it can be a tough decision to make, 272 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 5: but it's something that needs to be taken into consideration. 273 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: And I think John Hacklman has been around this sport 274 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: for a long time. 275 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 5: He's seen the effects on other guys right that he 276 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 5: has coached, and uh, I don't think he really wants 277 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: to be a part of it anymore. 278 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: Bright Yeah. First off, John Hackelman's self awareness there was 279 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: and he's holding himself accountable for maybe I was wrong. 280 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: That's really nice to see. I really respect that man. 281 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 3: I mean, he goes back obviously a million years with 282 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: Chuck and everything, and he's a great coach. I agree 283 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 3: with everything with everything with Kenny said. It's such a 284 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: weird spot because as a non fighter, you know, what 285 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: of my position is? What do I say here? And 286 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: I'm always quick to throw in the towel too. I 287 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: don't like seeing people get beat up, and I was 288 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: calling for the fight to be stopped with Glover fight. 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: But the only thing that I guess that gives me 290 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 3: a little bit of solace was he knew that his 291 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: last fight he probably was like, let me go out 292 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: on my shield. This is I'm done after this. No 293 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: matter what I'm done after this, I'm in Brazil, I'm 294 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: getting my shot. Let me go out there. Maybe that's 295 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: why there was his other cornerman was hesitant to throw 296 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: in the towel. And then obviously no one predicted him 297 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: to get mountain and you know, do what he did 298 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: in the fifth round, which is like, oh well he's 299 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: mounten a little bit of a comeback here. So it's 300 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: such a tough situation. The Laura Murphy fight is another one. 301 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: I know, she's her coaches got some heat, She's made 302 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: some statements as well, and it's just a really tough 303 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: spot when you're when you're in a corner, I mean, 304 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: the corner gets heat. I also would put a little 305 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: bit on the referee, especially in the Laura Murphy fight. 306 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm not trying to be biased or 307 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: sexist here. Laura Murphy's taking some really big shots. Those 308 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: those sounds of those shots were pretty incredible. 309 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Cyrus Maya didn't even close the distance. 310 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: One time, the guy was like reading a book in there. 311 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, buddy, can you get in there? A little bit, 312 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: what are you doing? But yeah, so Glober ending his 313 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: career like this, I think it's he went out the 314 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: way you wanted to go out. The guy's an absolute 315 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: fucking stud. Much respect to Glover, but yeah, it's a 316 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: tough situation. I'm glad I don't make those decisions. 317 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if it was so much 318 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: John Hackelman admitting fault as much as he was sort 319 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: of thankful that when the fight did continue, damage in 320 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: that fifth round was minimized and Glover did end up 321 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 4: getting the mount. And you know, as I've said, I 322 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: don't know that there's any sort of validation or vindication 323 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: because to Shera had a good fifth round, and candidly, 324 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: like if Glover to Shera had submitted Jamal Hill in 325 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: the first round, I don't think he takes the gloves 326 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: off and retire. I think he takes that show money 327 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: and the accompanying pay per viewpoints for the Uri Prohaska defense. 328 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: He wants that Prohosca fight back in the worst way, 329 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: and even against Hackleman's best wishes, I'm not so sure 330 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: that to Share would have retired now mid fight, in 331 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: the middle of this one, Yes, right, I think with 332 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: Ingrid to share there, I think they all recognize that, 333 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: all right, if you're going to take an appreciable amount 334 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: of damage in this fight, we're not going to make 335 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: the walk again. The Lauren Murphy fight obviously is interesting. 336 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: I thought the referee maybe could have bailed them out, 337 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: but as a corner man or woman, you sort of 338 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: have to be convicted enough to make that decision and 339 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: not want the referee to bail you out. Lauren Murphy 340 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: has said on social media, I thought the referee might 341 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: stop it after round two, and even you could see 342 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: Mark Goddard and John Hackleman sort of intimated that Mark 343 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: Goddard went over to the corner and was maybe seeing 344 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: if they might stop it the to share a corner, 345 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: and they didn't. And I do think I think, you know, 346 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: Mark od Ter, Jason Herzog gold standard, and I feel 347 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: like it's really challenging in a championship setting. I think 348 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: Keith Peterson learned his letting learned his lesson in the 349 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: Domina Cruz fight. You know, early stoppages in championship settings. 350 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny, I guess I know I'm all over 351 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: the place, but like when you're fighting for a title, right, Like, 352 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: I feel like fighters just really should be given a 353 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: I hate to say this, right, but I don't know. 354 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: I think it's really hard for a referee in a 355 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: title fight to get involved. You know, Listen, you can't 356 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: tell a fighter to stop. It's and it's not the 357 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: fighter's job to stop. Their Their job is to fight 358 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: and making a decision where you are emotionally invested, spiritually invested, 359 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: physically invested in all this time in preparation, all the 360 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: years of practice for that moment, especially for a world 361 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: championship moment, and a fighter's not going to make the 362 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: right choice. Okay, I'm talking about myself and everybody involved 363 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: in that situation. You want your coaches, your referees, everybody 364 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 4: on the periphery to make that decision for you, and 365 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 4: I don't know. Again, it's like, how much is it 366 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: worth it? I was talking to one of my trainers yesterday. 367 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: I won't name the NFL player, but there's an NFL 368 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: player from playing who needs reminders of what he needs 369 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: to do throughout the day. He can't remember anything of 370 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: where he needs to go, what he needs to do, 371 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 4: where he needs to I mean, that's not how much 372 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 4: is that worth? How much is your memory worth? How 373 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: much is your ability to chew your food worth? How 374 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 4: much are all those sixs? 375 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: So these are real situations that a lot of different 376 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: professional athletes that are involved in these hard sports have 377 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: to deal with. And you know, I think looking back, 378 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 5: you know, they probably would do things a little bit differently. 379 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 5: But when you're in the moment like that, John, it's 380 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 5: it's hard for a fighter to make that choice. 381 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: I want to throw this to both of you guys, 382 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: but Kenny, you know, one of Lauren Murphy's coaches did 383 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: say to me, you know, she did get that sort 384 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: of Kimora attempt in round three, and I don't know 385 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: if statistically she was even given credit for a submission attempt. 386 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: Maybe she was right. But I do think that for 387 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: these coaches, right, they are in a hard position. And 388 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: Luke Thomas has sort of spoken about this, right, who 389 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: knows a fighter better than their coach? Well, that can 390 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: be to the fighter's detriment, right, because unlike the to 391 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 4: share a fight, right, Even though to me I don't 392 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: put as much stock in him mounting Jamal Hill, right, 393 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: like I think, you know, I think too much? Maybe 394 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: is made of that, but I felt like the Murphy 395 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: outcome was just such an eventuality that maybe they could 396 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: have gotten involved. You know, there was just no moment 397 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: where I thought she was going to win the fight. 398 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: The Kimora attempt didn't seem like anything significant to me. 399 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: But you know, that would be what their corner would 400 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: say as to maybe why they allowed her to fight 401 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: and and have some evidence as to why she was 402 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 4: still in it. 403 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I think just because I'm grabbing your arm 404 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: or I have a Kimora grip on you, does not 405 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: mean that I actually have a Kimora. You need to 406 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: be in the right position, and unfortunately, she just wasn't 407 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 5: in the right position. I would love to see some 408 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: kind of statistic of people who have attempted a Kimora 409 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 5: in a professional mixed martial arts match from half guard 410 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: and how many have been completed. Okay, it would be 411 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 5: a very very low percentage of saying, if we're talking 412 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 5: about elite mixed martial arts, it just doesn't happen very often. 413 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 5: And here's the other thing. Yes, it is true a 414 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: coach will know that fighter better than anybody else, but 415 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 5: can we also be honest that they also are the 416 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: most biased party involved. Right, Not only are you emotionally 417 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: invested in that fighter and you want and win, of course, 418 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: but also there's the ego involved. 419 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 2: Right. 420 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 5: It's like, I want my fighter to go out there 421 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: and win, and I don't want to be the guy 422 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 5: that stops the fight. And again I say that for me, 423 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 5: that's a difficult decision to make, right, So I don't know. 424 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 5: I think, you know, conversations need to be had between 425 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: fighters and coaches, and I think the sport is still 426 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 5: young and we haven't quite seen the effects that that 427 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 5: it can take on a fighter, so you know, maybe 428 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 5: things will change, and that I think why we're seeing 429 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: John hackem and take that stance right now? 430 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 431 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Laura Murphy real quick. And the one 432 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: thing I want to say about that is she referenced 433 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: the Juanna fight with Wayley Zang with Joanna had the 434 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: big lump in her head and she goes, hey, how 435 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 3: come no one was the uproar of that fight. Well, 436 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: the difference is is that was a very close fight, 437 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: so some people thought you wanta won. In my opinion, 438 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: Laura Murphy got two ten eights, and if you look 439 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: at how many finishes Laura Murphy has in round three, 440 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: which is none. What are the chances of her coming 441 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: back in the finish? And I know anything can happen 442 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: in MMA, but it's like you got to really do 443 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: some statistics and analyzing and figure out what's going to 444 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: really happen that third round. So that's all I want 445 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: to see in the situation. 446 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 4: No, that's very important to add to the conversation. And 447 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: you're right, I thought you on a young Jcheck won 448 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: that fight Daed and so for me, there's really no 449 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: point of comparison before I get into the standings and 450 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 4: a few things on UFC two eighty three Brian Jamal Hill, 451 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: I guess I'm just curious what your thoughts were on 452 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: the performance, the grappling, the ability to sort of thrive 453 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: at a championship setting on the road despite not having 454 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: what amounted to a championship training camp. Your thoughts on 455 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: the new UFC light heavyweight champ unbelievable. 456 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy was fourteenth profight on short notice 457 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: in Brazil, and I was one of the ones that 458 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: doubted him. I picked Glover. I bet Glover won the 459 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: few bets I lost. I was on fire all night, 460 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: and I just thought matchup wise, this was if you 461 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: look at the rankings in the top fifteen, there's not 462 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: really anybody besides maybe Anklife and Maybey on Belhobas that 463 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: can really wrestle and take you down. Most of them 464 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: are strikers. And so I'm like, if Jamal Hill gets 465 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: past his Glover test, this is gonna be a guy 466 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: with a serious problem. He's gonna be hard to beat. 467 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 3: And I thought he did great in that first first round. 468 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: Glover shot a lot. He had a body lock, tight 469 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: body lock, and Jamal got out of all that. When 470 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: he slowed down just a little bit, he get taken down, 471 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: but he got back up, he got mounted, got back up. 472 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: And the one thing I really really love three weeks notice, 473 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 3: I know he hired a nutrition that you guys mentioned 474 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: on the broadcast, but this guy was dog tired and 475 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: he was still throwing. He was still he did not 476 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: put you know, his hands were down, but he was 477 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: still throwing. He was still caution to to win. He's 478 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: a very exciting fighter and I am over the moon 479 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: for this guy. Iron Team Sweet Dreams. Now, Yeah, everyone's 480 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 3: talking about the Alex Peira fight, which would be unbelievable. 481 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: They're zooming in on Pereira's face when he shook Jamal's 482 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: hand in the cage. They're building that up, which would 483 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: be incredible because I mean, Perera can make too, Fune 484 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: can be a heavyweight. Let's be honest, guy, It's huge. 485 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 3: But I really want to see the Yerie fight. Yeri's 486 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: little video he posted in the snow screaming at the camera. 487 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 4: I mean that. 488 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I want to see and hear 489 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 3: if Jamal wants to stay active, and I really think 490 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: he side aunt Calife in there. Anthony Smith the name 491 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: that can get brought up in there. But I'm super 492 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: high in this kid. I'm not doubting them ever. Again, 493 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: that's for sure. 494 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: This pro Hosca is just out of his fucking skalpiece. 495 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: You gotta love him. And the addition of chef Ian 496 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: Laios to the camp of Jamal Hill and the value 497 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 4: of that just can't be overstated. Three weeks for him 498 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Kenny can obviously speak to this 499 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: and just how valuable somebody on that level can be. 500 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: Ian is a long distance runner, a supremely conditioned athlete 501 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 4: in his own rights, super super humble, and his system 502 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: is outstanding. I think he comes from that Lockhart Leaf 503 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: school if I'm not mistaken. But Ian is truly the 504 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: best of the best. And now Jamal Hill is going 505 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: to be all in as far as that is concerned. 506 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: And if Jamal Hill goes all in when it comes 507 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 4: to the nutrition and really does what Ian says and 508 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: lives more of a championship lifestyle over a calendar year 509 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: and commits to the strength and conditioning, right, I really 510 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: think it's interesting to see what the actual ceiling could be. 511 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: We know the ceiling is UFC Championship right now, but 512 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 4: what actually is the ceiling in terms of how good 513 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: this guy could Because there's no denying the natural ability 514 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: as a basketball player, as a football player, as a striker, 515 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: as a grappler. Dude's the real deal plus athlete. You 516 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: know what the United States of America? By the way, 517 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: By the way, you know, were you guys born in 518 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 4: the US. Were you guys born in the US? Cody 519 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: in the US. Let's go, okay, okay, all right, I 520 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 4: mean I know the belt was in New England in Danbury, Connecticut. 521 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: A wood leg claim to that championship as well, I 522 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 4: mean Glover to Shares America too. Let's be honest, right, 523 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: they get very upset in SOBRALU meanus, jed Ice When 524 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: I say the Glorora, I was like the Belt's coming 525 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 4: to Danbury. I was like the Belt's coming to Danbury. 526 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, minas jedd Ice should ice. I 527 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: promise he'll be in Sobralia in a couple of weeks, 528 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: all right, Kenny, uh, I know, uh you're with us 529 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: early today. Do you know how how you did it? 530 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: UFC two eighty three. Do you know well you did? 531 00:24:59,760 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: Or no? 532 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think I did okay, but I 533 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: definitely know I'm not leading the standings here. I'm a 534 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: little nervous. Well, you certainly closed the gap with a 535 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: six and oh at UFC two to eighty three for 536 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 4: Kenny Florian. If you're paying attention at home now, you 537 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: know Chalky as fuck? Right, all favorites, A couple of them, though, 538 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno and Jamal Hill were very close, right, So 539 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: none of those were underdogs. But it is a plus 540 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: six hundred dollars after ken Flow wax as six and zero. 541 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: You got a good price on Brandon Moreno minus one 542 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: ten closed on DraftKings Sportsbook ads minus one thirty Petrie, 543 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 4: you know, always in the fucking black, this guy, Brian Petrie, right, 544 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 4: you should be tailing this guy four and two overall. 545 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: Switched up his pick midweek from Davison Figuretto to Brandon 546 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: Moreno very sage move at that did take a shot 547 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 4: on Showgun. Hua had the two units on Glover, but 548 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: still in the black as opposed to Red plus one 549 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: hundred for Petrie unless I'm mistaken. So the standings right now, 550 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 4: Brian Petrie plus four hundred and thirty five American dollars. Uh, 551 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: Kenny Floory in minus one hundred and fifteen dollars and 552 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: uh yeah right there, and Kenthal you just eliminated a 553 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: lot of that read after I took a gamble early on. 554 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: Perhaps a lesson em betting women's mixed Mascha lots. I 555 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: don't know, all right. A few things brid that we 556 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: did not get to in the Monday show that we 557 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: would like to get to with you. Jai Yilton, Mala, 558 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 4: Genio Almeida, bona fide UFC heavyweight contender, Cody'll chase a 559 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: ranking for me. I'd imagine this man has a number 560 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 4: next to his name, sort of throwing around a bear, 561 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: a credentialed combat sambo master like Shamil abdu Rahimov, essentially 562 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: like it's nothing. Uh, your thoughts on Jai Yilton Almeida 563 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: and how you expect the promotion to proceed with the 564 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: budding heavyweight content? 565 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you're working, John, I rarely text you. 566 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: I text you is last time out against Parker Porter 567 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: and went whoa, because this guy is is a freaking 568 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: He was a two hundred and five pounder of the 569 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: Contender series. Took a Catchwaight at two twenty, weighed in 570 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: at two eighteen. Is your real heavyweight now? He weighed 571 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: in this weekend at two thirty two, still thirty pounds 572 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: less than Ja Meal And it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. 573 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 3: He got clipped with the right hand. I had a 574 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: lot of I did the one cardinal sin as a capper, 575 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: you never go above you know whatever your number is 576 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: mine seven hundred. If you guys seven hundred, I'm not 577 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: touching him. I touched jout in every which way, finished everything. 578 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: I chased Tko and I'm lucky I got it. But 579 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: he got hit with the right hand. Ate it well 580 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: for being, you know, thirty pounds under size. But once 581 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: he gets to the ground. The only thing that my 582 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: critique was is a he's a high level jiu jitsu 583 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: black belt and he was just really hunting for submissions. 584 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: He really wanted to get dismissed. He wasn't punching a lot, 585 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: he wasn't sending anything up in the very first round, 586 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 3: and then when the punches started coming more things were 587 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: open to him, and then he just said, well, fuck it, 588 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: I'll just pound him out. But this guy is a 589 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: problem no matter where he's at. I kind of think 590 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: he should stay at heavyweight if I mean honest with you, 591 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: you know, because the two I mean, wipe out all 592 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: the weight when you're gonna be okay at heavyweight. But yeah, 593 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: I think you throw them to the sharks at this point, 594 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: I really really do. I think you give him top 595 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: fifteen guy, top twelve guy. Cody just sent the Rakings 596 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: in here. 597 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: See I would go even higher, Bri right, he debuts, 598 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: I guess at number fourteen, and when you look at 599 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: say Volcove at eight, Derek Lewis at seven, Tommy aspin 600 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 4: All on the mend at six ty to Ivas's five 601 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: Curtis Blades four, Sergey Pavlovich three, steep A mi at 602 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: chich two, Seedle Gone one, John Jones is lurking, and 603 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: Goan is out of the mix. Can flow. I kind 604 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: of feel like, I mean, you know, maybe Curtis Blade's 605 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: too much too soon in a main event, right, But like, 606 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: I mean, what are we doing here with Jaielton now made? 607 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: There are plenty of guys that get fast tracked, right, 608 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: I mean, you want to wet your beak with like 609 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: Jargeno rosenstrike in a main event. What are we doing 610 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: with Jai Yelton al Mada. Dude, Let's cut to the chase. 611 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 5: Sergei Pavlovitch against Jilton Almeida, just let him just fight. 612 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: Let's go mad event made event on a fight night. Well, 613 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: so that that's true to me, that's a true heavyweight 614 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: title eliminator. And I think because both guys are so 615 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily fresh as a daisy. But you know, 616 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: Bella the ball right now? Yeah, gosh, all these fucking cliches. 617 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: How good would that fight? Though? I got it would 618 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: be great, but I think promotionally they probably don't want 619 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: to like kill those one of those two birds in 620 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: a fight with each other. Maybe they would. I don't know, 621 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: but I do think for a guy like Jay Yilton, 622 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a little bit of a log jam. 623 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: Even if you wanted to fast track him. You go 624 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: Jones and seatle Gone, then you do the steep Bay fight, 625 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: and then that could even put us January twenty twenty four. 626 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: So guys getting a big fight regardless. And I have 627 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 4: to say the humility of this Brazilian is a sight 628 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 4: to behold. I mean, what a quote, right, I'm talking 629 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: about his star power and he says, yes, I mean, 630 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: it's nice to get the shine, it's nice to be 631 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty two rookie of the year, but there's 632 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 4: so much work ahead for me and my training partners 633 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: and my coaches. That's what he said. And it's like, okay, yeah, 634 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: you're right. 635 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: So he yet pushing his His teammate calls fleebe fun 636 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: in the UFC, like Jotan, who do you want next? 637 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: He's like, I get my guy back in the UFC. 638 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 3: It was all about his buddy that used to fight 639 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: in the UFC is buddy Pop for a few things. 640 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: But you know that's not here. There but yeah, so 641 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: I thought that was great humility and then he shot 642 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: on d C, which was great. 643 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: Is that Carlos Felipe putting over his buddy right after 644 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: the fight, putting over his buddy, you know, yeah, incredible. 645 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 4: So we have a few more minutes here with Brian Petrie. 646 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: So I gotta tell you, guys, and this is not 647 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: just me putting over my guy, but Brian Petrie essentially 648 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: says to us, you know, Bruno Fajede has got one 649 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 4: way to win against Gregory Rodriguez. It's my first round 650 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: knockout play him at plus seven hundred. And he catched 651 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: that ticket, Brian, Yeah, it was a. 652 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 3: Nice little ticket. I got a little worried. I mean, 653 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: he he landed a left hook early in that round 654 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: and RoboCop took it well, and I went, oh, okay, 655 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: he took it pretty well. And then obviously we saw 656 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: what happened. But yeah, man, some things just stick in 657 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: my head. And I've lost more money on RoboCop than 658 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: I've won. But when you get knocked out by Jordan Williams, 659 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 3: an undersized guy eighty five on the Contenders, that's get 660 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: a stick in my head, right, And then you get 661 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: a guy who's a one round fighter who's gonna knock 662 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: you out, who's maybe a little on their size. I 663 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: think maybe one seventy is Bernard Ferara's true weight class. Yeah, 664 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean I was. I was over the 665 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: moon with that one. That was a big hit. And 666 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: then getting getting Gilbert Burns by submission in the first 667 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: round was a nice little hit for me as well. 668 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns, he's so dynamic on the ground. I figure 669 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: that was gonna be the case. 670 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: What do you think they do with that, that triumvirate 671 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 4: of Blau, Muhammad, Gilbert Burns, Colby Covington. You think they 672 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 4: get two of those three to fight each other? 673 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 7: What? 674 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, listen, I think since you know, I 675 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: thought Blau was next up. I thought he was going 676 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: to London to fight Edwards. But obviously Usman's hand's gonna 677 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: heal up. They're gonna do that. So I give Blow 678 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: Chamayav because that's what Blau wants, and I think Blow 679 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: is going to be a really tough matchup for TAMAIAV. 680 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: And then you give you give Burns in Covington, Yeah, yeah, 681 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: And then they're all playing these photoshop games with the 682 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter and stuff like that, which I think is great. 683 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: I'm tuned into it. I think those four basically its 684 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: title eliminators is what we want, what we need. Yeah, 685 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: that makes yeah. 686 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: Heard in regards that you may have because there was 687 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 5: talk I forget who it was. They were saying that 688 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: he is gonna be one hundred and eighty five pounder. Now, 689 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 5: isn't that true? 690 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: What the heck's going on? So his coaches Andreas Michael 691 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: wanted him to stay on a welterweight championship trajectory, and 692 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: something I think has has happened on the way to 693 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: the Forum and it looks like, yeah, he wants to 694 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: go to middleweight. I think he. I think he just 695 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: feels like he can be a champion really almost up 696 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: to two oh five. So yeah, I don't know, we'll see, 697 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: but yeah, obviously that fight would not be there for Blalafandied. 698 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: His next fight is at middleweight Brian before we let 699 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: you go, the bon Fiem brothers, Gabriel and Ismael. Pretty 700 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: exciting to see what they could do, uh with that 701 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: first UFC opportunity. Who do you think the ceilings hire for? 702 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: Unfair question? 703 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: Well, so you go in and everyone was talking about Gabriel, 704 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: the younger one. I had him in my parlay. Everyone 705 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: kind of chirped at me, all contended series guys in 706 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: a parla. You shouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah, but these guys, 707 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: fucking a they're the real deal. But I thought Ishmael 708 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: looked better to me. I thought his stand up look great. 709 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: I thought he looked fast. I thought he looked quick 710 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: against a very dangerous terrace McKinny and mean teris m 711 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 3: kenny in that first round is a problem from anyone. 712 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: And Ishmael was not afraid of him, was timing him, 713 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: was counting him, and looked really good. But that guillotine 714 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: Gabe sucked up on moon near lass. That was tight. 715 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: When he got that, I'm like, curtains, it's a rap. 716 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not trying to call too soon, but 717 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: it was a wrap on that. I like the ceiling 718 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: better for Ishmael, if I'm being honestly, I know Gabriel's 719 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 3: the younger one, and people people kind of put him 720 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: a little aboveishment, but I like, I like the the 721 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: little bit older one, the one forty five or the 722 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: one fifty five excuse me, and uh yeah, so uh 723 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: but They're both exciting, man, they both have a wealth 724 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: of experience coming into I think they could have had 725 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: a shot in the USC without going through the contenders, 726 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: but it is what it is. I think they're legit prospects, 727 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: all right, buddy. 728 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: On social media, can find Brian at Brian Petrie MMA. 729 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 4: We got thirty seconds left with you, my man. I 730 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: just wanted to say, I'm closing. I think I might 731 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 4: get youa Androge's face tattooed on like my left pack. 732 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: I'll do it with you. I'll do it with you. 733 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: I'll get it anywhere non visible like thigh. I'll make 734 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: over my belly. I don't know whatever, dude, I'm with you. 735 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 3: She's one of my favorite fighters. She is such a 736 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: badass with. 737 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 4: Or without the head dress that she had. Because that's 738 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 4: pretty cool. 739 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 3: That's that's gonna that's a long session, John, That's good. 740 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: You're going there for a couple of hours with that dress. 741 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, no head dress, just just just gone rash headshot 742 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: on my left pectoral. That'll cover the whole thing. And uh, 743 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 4: you know, well, I was gonna do the Brazilian flag, 744 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: but I don't know that that gives enough appreciation for Jess. No, 745 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 4: I have two daughters. I probably can't devote that much 746 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 4: of my I mean, can imagine I live in Florida. 747 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: Every other day we're going in the pool and uh, 748 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 4: who's that honey? You know Jess towards the nipple to John. 749 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to go down that. 750 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 3: I feel Greatney, Yeah, so be careful, but I'll I'll 751 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: do it too. 752 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: Fifteen UFC wins put her in the whole Hall of Fame. 753 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: As I've said, there would only be one athlete right now, 754 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 4: I guess other than Hafayel Dosanjos, where I would feel 755 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 4: the need to go to Zach Candido or Craig Borsar 756 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: or go to Dana White and say you got to 757 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: put on Josh in the Hall of Fame, you know, 758 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: and hopefully she could fucking slam somebody on her way 759 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: out too. 760 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: Except unbelievable. 761 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: She's on my Hey, thanks for the time, buddy, Enjoy 762 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 4: the rest of your day with the kids. We'll see you. 763 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: We'll see you next week, all. 764 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, boy, see it all right, folks. 765 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 4: A lot more to get to before we bounce on 766 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 4: out of here. And here we go. When it comes 767 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 4: to the National Football League. Four NFL teams are left, 768 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 4: two conference championship games and only a few more shots 769 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 4: to win big on the playoffs. With DraftKings Sportsbook and 770 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: official sports betting partner of the NFL. Now, as most 771 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: of you know, I bet on sports every day and 772 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: I'm counting it down to Super Bowl fifty seven. 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All right now 795 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: joining us on the guest line as promised head Pro 796 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: Team MMA coach of Fight Ready in Arizona. Look at 797 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 4: this guy obviously here right on the screws, Santino DeFranco 798 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 4: is with us. This guy's a businessman, He's an entrepreneur, 799 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: he's a renaissance man. No surprise that he answered the 800 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 4: wake up call this morning. Good morning, my man, how 801 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 4: are you? 802 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 7: Good morning? Good to see it? Should I hold my 803 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 7: phone vertical or horizontal on? 804 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: This doesn't matter, Cody can chime, man, I mean you 805 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: look great to me. It's up to you. 806 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, you see some sideways. 807 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 4: So so you are like embedded in this MMA betting 808 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: space as well with your podcasts and predictions and everything else. 809 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 4: I know you have a new studio. If I'm not mistaken. 810 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 4: So we have a million things we would like to 811 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 4: get into with you today, but I guess let's start there. 812 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 4: You're pretty avid when it comes to tracking these lines 813 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 4: and monitoring the fights week to week. 814 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: Like everybody else, I am, I am, I love it, 815 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: I love it. I love watching fights. I love like 816 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: watching film. And it's a riddle to me, but actually 817 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: that's one of the things I love about coaching too. 818 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: Is actually probably my favorite thing about coaching fighters right 819 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: now is the film study. When I get it right. 820 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you get it wrong, and you know 821 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: everything sucks when you get it wrong. But I love 822 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: film study. I love watching film. I love breaking down fights. 823 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: So so I think you first surfaced on my radar 824 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine. I might have even ended 825 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 4: up in a car with you at some point during 826 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 4: season one of Bellatur But Jason Chambers, my broadcast partner 827 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 4: at the time, had mentioned your name and how highly 828 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: he thought of you. And here we are fourteen years later. 829 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 4: But basically part of the reason you're here today is 830 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 4: because of your memoir. There are no hospitals in Russia, 831 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: and I'm holding it up right now so rudely covering 832 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 4: your name you can find it right now on Amazon 833 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 4: dot com. But essentially, after a brain aneurysm and subsequent surgery, 834 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 4: you went from being a fighter to doing a lot 835 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 4: of different things. You hung up the gloves and now 836 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 4: you write and you coach, and we'll get into your 837 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: businesses obviously as well. But can you tell us a 838 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 4: little bit about your history as far as all that 839 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 4: is concerned and how you were able to sew quickly 840 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 4: and successfully pivot at that time in your life. 841 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, after a brain entersm, you know, you kind 842 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 2: of left with like, what the hell do you do 843 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: when when getting punched in the face for a living? Well, 844 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Kenny, I mean, it's not much 845 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 2: of a living if you're not you know, really making 846 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: a lot of money, if you're not at higher ranks 847 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 2: in the UFC. I mean, it's barely a living, but 848 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 2: it's a dream, you know. And so once you can't 849 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: get punched in the head anymore, like what do you do? 850 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: And so, you know, immediately I started pivoting and trying 851 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: to do different stuff, you know, got a job at 852 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: a financial institution and then you know, I ended up 853 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 2: going back to MMA and I was actually on the 854 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: ultimate fighter. After I had brain surgery, got cleared to 855 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: fight again, and you know, tried to fight, but at 856 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: that point I just sucked. It was a mental thing. 857 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: Some days I would show up to fight, in other 858 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: days I would freak out like I'm gonna die, like 859 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: not oh, I might get hit or I'm gonna get. 860 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 7: Hurt, like legitimately I'm going to die. And you can't 861 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 7: do that as a fighter. 862 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: And so so after that, I eventually just just went 863 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: to grad school, kind of got out of the sport 864 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: for a little while, and then eventually got back into coaching. 865 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm glad I did, because I love 866 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: the sport and it's hard to just give something up 867 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: one hundred percent that you love. 868 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 4: Satina, I want to ask you about the coaching. 869 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 5: You know, first of all, do you follow like a 870 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 5: system that you have every fighter that you work with 871 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 5: kind of be a part of and follow, or do 872 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 5: you cater training to. 873 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 4: Each individual fighter when they seek your help, so a 874 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 4: little bit of both. 875 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 2: I mean you all coaches, I'm assuming every coach you 876 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: know there is they have certain tendencies that we teach. 877 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: You know, there's certain things that I like to do 878 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: there's certain habits, there's certain moves or certain things of course, 879 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: like just on a regular level, those are those are 880 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: things that I'm going to do that we all tend 881 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: to do on a when fights come up, though, everyone 882 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: is individual, Like I hate trying to force things on 883 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: fighters because you might have John Jones, who's what six' 884 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: four with the longest reach on the, planet and then 885 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: right next to them we Have Calvin, gastulm AND i 886 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: can't coach those two people the, same so and then 887 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: they're fighting different. People so everybody has a different skill, 888 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: set they've got different, aptitudes they've got different. 889 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 7: Bodies everything is so. 890 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 2: Different to try to do a, one you, know one fits, 891 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: ALL i think would be a horrible, idea not only to. 892 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 7: The athlete but to the fight as. Well like every 893 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 7: fight is so. 894 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: Different somebody is a south, past somebody is a, wrestler 895 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: somebody is, this somebody's. That so every single fight is 896 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: is its own film, study is its own. Fight and 897 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: THEN i have to take the things THAT i do 898 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: in my knowledge with the athlete and their skill set 899 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: coupled with the fight in front of, them and we've 900 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: got to have kind of a marriage of all of 901 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 2: those things for success. 902 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 5: And, SATIN i wanted to ask, you we were discussing 903 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 5: earlier stoppages for fighters when they're in, trouble is there 904 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 5: a scenario or set of scenarios where you would stop the. 905 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: Fight When zombie was Fighting, VOLKANOVSKI i looked over At 906 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: Eddie chatt AND i, said, hey we got to stop the. 907 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: Fight we got to throw talent and and herb stopped, 908 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 2: it you, know. Beforehand but that was one hundred. Percent 909 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 2: When frankie sins was Fighting Jonathan martinez in between, rounds we're, like, Hey, 910 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 2: frankie we might have to stop this, fight, like, hey 911 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: this this isn't going. 912 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 4: Well AND. 913 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 7: I don't remember if we ended up stopping that or 914 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 7: IF i think that might have been a herb as. 915 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 2: Well fights should be stopped. More look like we love 916 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: a comeback. Story we love Like Drew fickett fought you 917 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 2: Know Drew ficket from back in the. DAY i trained 918 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 2: and Trained withdrew for. Years he fought Cost check and 919 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: was mauled for fourteen minutes and like forty five, seconds 920 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: threw a kick kind of a, knee hit him on 921 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 2: the way, in choked him out with like five seconds. 922 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: Left like we love a comeback, story we love A cinderella. 923 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 2: Story but One thicket was getting out. Wrestled he wasn't getting. 924 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: Hurt and that's the, thing, man is irreparable brain damage 925 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: isn't good for, anyone and probably ninety nine times out 926 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: of one, hundred it. 927 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 7: Doesn't help, Anyone like they still. 928 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: Lose like you, KNOW i MEAN i can almost tell 929 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 2: when a fighter is going to, lose like two minutes 930 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: into a. FIGHT i mean it's almost an, inevitable like 931 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: you know how this tide is, going because you know 932 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 2: the fighter and, stuff and there's no reason for these 933 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: fighters to take more. Damage we take so much. DAMAGE 934 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: i think The Laura murphy fight should have been. STOPPED 935 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: i think even The glover, fight even though it ended 936 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: up not being as bad as we thought it was 937 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: going to be in that fifth, ROUND i think that 938 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 2: should have been. Stopped it didn't change the outcome of the. Fight, 939 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 2: yeah what it did do is it took another year 940 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: or two off of his. 941 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 7: Life. 942 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 943 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 7: Right. 944 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 4: Hey by the, way in terms Of Drew, thicket So 945 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 4: Kenny floria in a little history With Drew. FICKETT i, 946 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 4: mean you guys probably know, this right Combat zone, seven 947 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 4: Gravel pit And Fucking, Revere, Massachusetts july, tenth two thousand and. 948 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 4: Four So kenny loses a split, decision BUT Ufc President 949 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 4: Dana white is so impressed with ken flow in defeat 950 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 4: that that the foundation For kenny to be On season 951 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 4: one Of The Ultimate. Fighter AM i fucking? Wrong that's 952 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 4: that's what. 953 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 5: Happened that was the first TIME i actually got hit 954 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 5: in the face and a mixed martial arts, Fights so 955 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 5: thank You drew for punching me in the. 956 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: Face NOW i want to ask the important, question, though 957 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 2: is did you go out drinking With drew after? 958 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 4: THAT i did, Not BUT i have Seen drew out 959 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 4: there and he commits very hard to that or what you. 960 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 7: Commit he's full, send, always full send. 961 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 4: Deep so the, title excuse me of your? Memoir there 962 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,720 Speaker 4: are no hospitals In. Russia i'm curious if no sooner 963 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 4: did you decide to write a memoir than you knew 964 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 4: that that was going to be the, title BECAUSE i 965 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 4: think it's. Incredible but talk us through the title if you. 966 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 7: Would SO i was after my brain. 967 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 2: Aneurism the very first fight THAT i came back to 968 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: Was bodog fight In Saint, Petersburg. Russia SO i hadn't 969 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: fought in. Years you, KNOW i had to break. NURISM 970 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: i took that fight on a couple of weeks. Notice 971 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: and actually i'd gotten Married march, third and we're going 972 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: to have like a kind of a, reception reception for 973 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: some friends and, family and my mother flew out To. 974 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: Phoenix BUT i got that call and SO i flew To. 975 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: Russia so AS i was flying To, russia she was 976 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 2: flying To. Phoenix so we did not have a. Reception 977 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: So i'm, There i'm the second fight on the, card 978 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: And i'm you, know we're In. Russia it's a cold 979 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 2: arena In april In. Russia Vladimir putin is front, row 980 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: so Is Jean claude Van Dam Silvio. Berlusconi like it's 981 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: like this is a. Thing And i'm over, here, like, 982 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: HEY i have them fought in, years AND i have 983 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: a brain, aneurysm so let's let's. Go and so the 984 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 2: first fight goes out and then there's a delay with 985 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 2: the first. Fight in the second, fight WHICH i am 986 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 2: AND i don't remember if it was the ropes or. 987 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: WHAT i think they're tightening the ropes because there's a, 988 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: ring not a, cage and so as they're as the 989 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 2: first fighter is coming, back he is just bloodied, up, battered, 990 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 2: beaten and he is vomiting in the. Shower we're in 991 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: like a hockey arena locker, room and he is vomiting 992 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: in the shower and just blood, everywhere like puking up 993 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 2: like he's puking and then there's blood and you can't 994 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: help it's blood or puke or this or that or. 995 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 7: What and he's, like, HEY i need to go to the. 996 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: Hospital and somebody there was like kind of half joking 997 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 2: and half, Saying they're like a. Hospital you're not going 998 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 2: to a. Hospital you're In. Russia there are no hospitals In. Russia, 999 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: like you're Not we're not doing. That and then like 1000 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 2: short like probably five seconds after, that they're, like all, 1001 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 2: right To, franco you're. 1002 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 7: Up And i'm, like, Huh like, okay, well here we. 1003 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: Go and, anyway so that's where the name of the 1004 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: memoir comes, from is that little moment right after my 1005 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 2: brain aneurysm that you, know coming back from it my 1006 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: first fight, back. 1007 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 4: And you just said To, franco are you telling me 1008 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 4: that we've all been butchering your name on live television 1009 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 4: all these years calling You. DeFranco oh for. 1010 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: Years for, years you have Been DeFranco in, It and 1011 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: so everybody else is, Like, DeFranco how? Come And i'm, 1012 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: LIKE i don't know why he Says, DeFranco BUT i Say. 1013 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,479 Speaker 2: DiFranco and so there's. 1014 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 4: That so you have. 1015 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 7: Been but you, know BUT i, feel, Though, JOHN i 1016 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 7: feel LIKE i can't correct you because. 1017 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 4: It adds a bit of. Class, yeah but it's, name, 1018 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 4: Right it's An italian name, though, right, yeah, Friend. Franco 1019 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 4: it would Be DeFranco In, italy, RIGHT i don't. 1020 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 7: Know we're not In. 1021 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 4: Italy we're In. 1022 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 7: America and In, AMERICA. 1023 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 4: I was the first man on Safe side's. Bandwagon and 1024 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 4: he remembers a conversation in twenty thirteen WHEN i approached 1025 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 4: him to get the pronunciation of his. Name, so, like 1026 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 4: there's so much love for you on this. Program longo 1027 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 4: absolutely loves. You and if you, know he's on this 1028 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 4: show every week and has been since episode. One AND 1029 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: i think he we've given you A coach of The. 1030 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 4: YEAR i think he said you were that, GUY i 1031 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: think in twenty twenty. One But, DeFranco, oh my, goodness 1032 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 4: you know how how. SERIOUSLY i take this pronunciation. Stuff 1033 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 4: So i'm a little bit frazzled right. Now i'm pitting. 1034 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 4: OUT i don't even know what to. 1035 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: Do, okay but here's a weird thing. Though i'm weird with. 1036 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 2: Pronunciations my. Name so growing, up my name Is. Santino, 1037 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 2: everyone my entire, family, everybody like everyone who has ever 1038 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 2: met me WHEN i was growing, up It's. Santino It's, 1039 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: Santino like my father is Like. Santino my sisters called Me. 1040 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 2: Santino everybody growing up my name Is. Santino AND i 1041 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: intentionally switched it kind of as an adult because nobody 1042 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: knows what the Hell i'm. Saying and so you go To, 1043 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: starbucks you go, anywhere And i'm, like, Hey santino and 1044 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 2: they're like, What i'm like sa and ti n. 1045 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 7: O and so for years this for. 1046 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: Gone so Now i've started like really like Enunciating. Santino 1047 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: so people are, like, oh that's an a not of 1048 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: what the hell is? That and SO i don't even 1049 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 2: pronounce my own name, Correctly so you pronounce it how you. 1050 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 7: Want, John, oh, like, No. 1051 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 4: Ronco Now i'm Going Stino. DeFranco i'm Doing BUT i got. 1052 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 4: IT i know it's really it's personal, preference but, yes 1053 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna have to have you say your name to 1054 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 4: tape for THE. UFC i think we have a few 1055 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 4: more minutes with the Great santino DeFranco author Of There 1056 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 4: Are No hospitals In, russia a great, Memoir so we 1057 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 4: could obviously spend hours with. You but a lot of 1058 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 4: elite talent that fight. READY i, Mean Jonathan pierce's name 1059 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 4: is obviously in my. NOTES i was asked recently to 1060 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 4: come up with THREE ufc fighters who are not ranked 1061 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 4: right now who will be ranked at the end of 1062 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, three and it effectively blew my mind THAT 1063 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 4: jsp doesn't have a number next to his, name But 1064 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 4: Jonathan pierce. Obviously you go way back With Tracy. CORTEZ 1065 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 4: i do believe she'll realize THE ufc title fight at 1066 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 4: some point in. Time John jones is walking through those. 1067 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 4: Doors so a lot of exciting things going on right, 1068 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 4: now needless to. Say in the Greater arizona area out, 1069 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 4: there my met. 1070 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah it's pretty good. Man i'm fortunate to have had 1071 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 2: because there's probably a lot better coaches out there than. 1072 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 2: Me they just they're not in the. Area they don't 1073 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 2: have the, access they haven't done the, things you, know 1074 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 2: they just haven't had the exposure THAT i. 1075 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 7: Have So i'm really fortunate to be Where i'm at 1076 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 7: with Who i'm. 1077 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: With you, Knows i'm VERY i live a very nice 1078 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: life with a silver spoon in my. 1079 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 4: Mouth SO i you AND i go way, back AND 1080 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 4: i remember around the time you bought this gas, station 1081 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 4: This shell gas station In, phoenix and now it seems 1082 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 4: like you also own and perhaps they are one and the, 1083 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 4: same but A Krispy Crunchy chicken, franchise perhaps at the same. 1084 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 4: Location BUT i just remember when you were starting out 1085 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 4: on this, endeavor and now you're probably fucking killing. It 1086 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 4: so what do you have for us on? 1087 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 2: That so here's the weird thing about owning a gas 1088 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 2: station is, actually as gas prices go, up that kills. 1089 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 7: Me that kills me so. 1090 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 2: Much i'm not an oil. COMPANY i WISH i was 1091 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 2: getting Like shell oil, money BUT i. DON'T i Get 1092 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 2: Krispy Crunchy chicken. Revenue and so when gas prices go, 1093 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,479 Speaker 2: up it actually shrinks into my. Margin but my cost 1094 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: of goods sold goes way, up goes through the. Roof 1095 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 2: but then people buy less, gas and then they're in 1096 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 2: my store, less so they buy less merchandise as, well 1097 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: so it really cripples. 1098 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 7: Me but then of course when. 1099 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 2: Gas prices, DROP i get those costs of goods, back you, 1100 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 2: know and then slowly the whole thing kind of kind 1101 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: of helps. 1102 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 7: Out BUT i love, it, MAN i really like. 1103 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 2: It it's way more work THAN i ever, thought and 1104 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 2: it's more regulated than ANYTHING i could have ever. Imagined the, 1105 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 2: permits the health, permits the gas. PERMITS i, MEAN i 1106 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 2: have underground. Tanks i'm getting hit with permit fees and 1107 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 2: you know everything that you can get hit with every single. 1108 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 2: Day but, man IF i could quit everything and go 1109 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 2: own twenty seven gas stations and like just just be 1110 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,280 Speaker 2: selling in, gas just spouting. 1111 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 7: It off to everybody out, there, Man i'd probably ride 1112 00:51:59,760 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 7: in the. 1113 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 4: Sunset well that's, great, man and it's really great to 1114 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: see you find your footing in all these different. Areas 1115 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 4: we're obviously all thrilled that you decided to get back 1116 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 4: in THE M M a, space and needless to, say 1117 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 4: you've carved out more than a. Niche so congratulations on. 1118 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 4: Everything if you want more from Uh Santino DeFranco on 1119 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 4: social media it's just like that one Word santino, DeFranco 1120 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 4: And i'm going to commit that to the brain. Stem 1121 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 4: we'll get it right on the air next. 1122 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 7: Time but, now how are they going to spell? It 1123 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 7: see if you SAY, senti. 1124 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 4: WELL i to spell it out every. TIME i know 1125 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 4: how to spell. It, YEAH i know that there is 1126 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 4: absolutely no fucking. RIGHT i know there's no fucking space 1127 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 4: between dee and uh and. 1128 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 2: Franco oh, hey BEFORE i go THERE'S i got to 1129 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 2: fight about that with my wife because she is like everyone's, like, 1130 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 2: oh it is a. Thing she's, like you, know people, ask, 1131 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 2: oh is there a is it de CAPITAL f or LOWERCASE? 1132 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 2: F And i'm LIKE i don't, know it doesn't, matter 1133 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: and she's, like, no it, Matters like this is it does, 1134 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: Matter and, like you, know people ask is there a 1135 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 2: space between dee and THE? 1136 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 7: F And i'm, LIKE i don't. Care it doesn't matter 1137 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,240 Speaker 7: to know there is a freaking like this stuff. 1138 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 2: Matters so What i've, decided Because i've had to make 1139 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 2: a hard stand on this is it's CAPITAL, d LOWERCASE, 1140 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: e no space, right CAPITAL. F, Yes and so that's 1141 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 2: how we do things around. 1142 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 4: Here, well, yeah and we're an attention to detailed. Podcasts 1143 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 4: so if you check our Show rundown, today you can 1144 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 4: be sure that your name was spelled. Correctly AND i will, 1145 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 4: say in terms of it mattering or not on the way, 1146 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 4: out the space thing really fucking matters because our lead 1147 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 4: pay per view, Producer Michael laplant has had to deal 1148 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 4: with that space between law and plants his whole life 1149 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 4: and it's been a real pain in the. Ass so 1150 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 4: be thankful you don't have the. 1151 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 7: Space i'll take. 1152 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 4: It go, ahead all, Right Santino, DiFranco have a great 1153 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 4: rest of your, day. Buddy we appreciate the. Time thanks, 1154 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 4: Guys Sera Santino DiFranco joining us here on The Anakin florian. 1155 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 4: PODCAST i, mean that's really going to fuck with. Me 1156 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 4: we got both of those. Names that's, own all. Right 1157 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 4: don't Forget Kenny Florianmartial arts Dot. COM i, mean if 1158 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 4: you're not on that website and you Practice brazilian jiu 1159 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 4: jitsu at, all, like what are you fucking doing with your? 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Four god help. Me thank 1187 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 4: you all for, listening for. Watching tell your friends until next. 1188 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 4: Week for Kemp, Flum John annaki Lit. 1189 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 1: Well this week's episode didn't have time for the. 1190 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 6: Merriwseconds people had to get, going BUT i had some 1191 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 6: notes here THAT i wanted to get to you guys 1192 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 6: as FANS ufc two eighty. 1193 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: Three eight sibling pairs are currently in THE. 1194 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 6: Ufc The bombfien brothers are the first to debut and 1195 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 6: win in the same, night so gradulations to. 1196 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: Them be excited to see what they do in THE. 1197 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 6: Ufc Brian Butler's instagram he posted photos Of Jamal hill 1198 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 6: in the airplane as they were going home for FROM. 1199 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: Ufc two eighty three From. Brazil it Was jamal's first 1200 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: time In. 1201 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 6: Brazil on the way back to THE ufc put him 1202 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,320 Speaker 6: in first, class but his team was in coach And 1203 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 6: jamal said that it was uncomfortable for. Him he just 1204 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 6: wanted to be with his, team and he kept going 1205 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 6: back and sneaking them food and you, know bringing them 1206 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 6: and make sure they were. OKAY i just thought that was, 1207 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 6: amazing something worth pointing. Out the NEXT ufc event Is february, 1208 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 6: fourth with a ten Pm Eastern Star time projected one 1209 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 6: am main. Card that means the main events not going 1210 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 6: to be till about three Am eastern, times so buckle. 1211 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 6: Up Derek lewis is a plus one ninety favorite as 1212 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 6: or plus one ninety underdog as it sits right. Now 1213 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 6: alex padatas Eyming a may return Versus Robert whitaker if 1214 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 6: Not izzy Via Gamme cruz from M A. Fighting Anthony 1215 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 6: smith on The Believe You meet podcast addressed the weight. 1216 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 6: Miss he, SAID i can't even tell you what happened 1217 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 6: because no matter WHAT i, say there's a, reason and 1218 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 6: there's a lot of shit that goes on behind the. 1219 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 6: Scenes so dealing with a head on it was the 1220 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 6: first thing he was asked On bisping's. Podcast credit To 1221 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 6: Anthony smith for even going down there and putting in the, 1222 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 6: attempt and The Meryl marketing merrow seconds for the end 1223 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 6: of the. Podcast philadelphia seems to be the smart, play but, 1224 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 6: respectively Fuck philly on this. Program, RIGHT i think it's 1225 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 6: The bengals minus. One ON dk, sportsbook The bengals are 1226 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 6: nine to one against the spread and The chiefs are 1227 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 6: zero to five against the spread against teams of the winning. 1228 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 6: Records so no news in the mahomes industry, injury BUT 1229 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 6: i think The bengals will pull this one. 1230 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: Out that's it for The merrow seconds. Piece