1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: I guess what, Mango, what's up? Well? I know you 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: know I'm a big candy corn fan. I'm super excited 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Halloween's coming up. But did you know that candy corn 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: used to be called chicken feet? According to Better Homes 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and Gardens, the revolutionary tricolor candy was invented by a 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: company called Wonderly Candy Company. Isn't that a great name? 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: In Philadelphia? This was back in eight Do you know 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: what The original slogan was? Something worth crowing for? Which, actually, 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: as I'm saying that aloud, do chickens crow? I mean 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: they're both birds. I guess you're right, And it's the 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: perfect slogan for chicken feet. And it's just the first 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: of nine Halloween theme facts We've got for you today. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Let's dive in. Hey there, podcast listeners, Welcome to part 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: time Genius I Will Pearson and it's always I'm joined 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: by my good friend man guest Ticketer and on the 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: other side of the soundproof glass, dressed up in his 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: homemade costume. I think he's a dentist. Is that what 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: he means? I think is our friend and producer Tristan McNeil. 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: It's an impressive costume whatever it is, And back from vacation. 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Joining us on the phone is our brilliant researcher Gabe Louisier. Hey, 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: they're Gabe. Hey, guys, back, thanks for having me on. 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk some Halloween facts. I know 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I usually let somebody else go first, but I'm not 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: done talking about candy corns. If you don't mind, I'm 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick this thing off. So did you know 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: what actually wasn't started as a Halloween candy? In fact, 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: as late as nineteen fifty seven, Bronx was advertising it 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: as this summertime candy. And I guess it makes sense 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: because corn is kind of a summertime food. But I 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: do have some really important statistics to share with you guys. So, 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: according to a study, forty three pc of people eat 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: it at the narrow end first, ten percent eat it 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: at the wider end first, and forty seven percent of 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: people just pop the whole colonel in their mouths. Who 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: doesn't just pop the whole kernel in their mouths? I 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: eat it from the narrow end. Do you really gave? 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: How do you eat it? I honestly just try to 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: avoid you it altogether, all right, well, now you at 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: least know the percentages. Okay. So so there's my first fact, Mango, 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: you want to go next. So this comes from our 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: friend Stacy Conrad, but she told me that trick or 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: treaters in Des Moines can't just say trick or treat 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: expect they get like candy shoved into their pillowcases. They 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: actually have to tell jokes for their treats. And apparently 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: the traditions started in the thirties when there was this 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: outbreak of Halloween vandalism. The director of recreation around there 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: decided to encourage more constructive Halloween activities. So here's actually 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: what you told residents. Quote, Eats should be given only 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: if such a trick as a song, a poem, a stunt, 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: or a musical number, either solo or in crew participation, 51 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: is presented. Eighty years later, the tradition still continues, and 52 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: while the poems, stunts, and musical numbers have kind of 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: gone out of style, kids still tell jokes for their candies. 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: So this has calm in all over De Moines, I guess. So, 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: oh wow, I've never heard that before. Me. That's a 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good one, all right, Gabe. So you're 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: back from vacation, hopefully not too rusty. You've got a 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: fact for us? Oh yeah, absolutely, And this one actually 59 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: is in a you know, it's similar vain to uh, 60 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, a public stand against Halloween nutlances. So silly 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: string is actually banned in Hollywood on Halloween night. And 62 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: this is according to a Los Angeles Municipal Code ordinance 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: the past in two thousand four. And anyone caught selling, 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: or using or even possessing a silly string between midnight 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: October one and new November one can you find to 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars? And the reason for that isn't over 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand people routinely flocked to Hollywood Boulevard on 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Halloween night looking for something to do, and that something 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: often includes, you know, buying silly string from street vendors 70 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: and reaching havoc. Not only that, but you know, there 71 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: are also environmental concerns. Big clumps of silly string, as 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: well as the empty cans have a tendency to quaw 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: storm dream and eventually flowed out the sea LA's dreams 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: empty directly into the Pacific Ocean. Wow, this is a 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: big issue. I had never heard this either. Good job. 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: That was a good fact. All right, let me see 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: what I have next here. I've got a really important 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: fact about Halloween Eve. So I actually didn't realize how 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: many people around the world have a name for Halloween Eve. 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: There was a poll by the Cambridge Online Survey and 81 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: they were looking at if people had a name for it. 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: So people don't call Halloween Eve anything, but of people 83 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: have names for it. Was kind of fun to look 84 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: at the list. So there's some that we've heard of before. 85 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: There's Beggar's Night, Mischief Night, Devil's Night, Gate Night, trick Night. 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: But two that I have never heard before. In New 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: England many people call it cabbage Night. And uh, in 88 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: parts of New Jersey they call it goosey night. You 89 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: ever heard that Goosey Night? Now? Alright, MA have next. 90 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: So this is about Halloween Mass and in spirit Halloween, 91 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: which is a chain, started keeping track of their political 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: mass sales and they've picked up on this odd trend. 93 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: They realized that whichever candidates mass sold more, the candidate 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: would win the election. And since all six elections have 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: gone in the direction of the more popular mask and 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: Trump sold of the mass to Hillary. I'm actually kind 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: of surprised he didn't out sell her even more, you know. 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: But but anyway, that's a that's really interesting, all right, Gay, 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: what do you have next? Okay, so this is the 100 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: fact that I was really surprised to learn. Apparently there 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: are not one, but two cities in the United States 102 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: that both claimed to be the Halloween Capital of the world. 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: And the first is Salem, Massachusetts, and you know, that 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: makes sense. It's the home of the famous Salem which trial, 105 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: so it definitely has some creepy cred in its favor. 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: But the other is a Noca, Minnesota, and angely enough, 107 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: but Ana's claims to be the capital because it was 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: the first city in the US to throw a Halloween 109 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: celebration in order to start kids from you know, sowing 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: mischief around the town, like soaping up people's windows and 111 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: tipping over out houses. So in Unoka Commercial Clubs and 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Unoca Kiwanis Club through a big celebration that included a parade, 113 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: a bonfire, foods, drinks, and you know, of course candy. 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: And then they expanded the events to include other things 115 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: like pillow fights, costume contests, and even a fireworks display. 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Uh and and is actually still being held in a noca, 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: and it has been every year since, with the exception 118 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: of a priest finatist during World War Two, when citizens had, 119 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, bigger thing story about the setting their houses 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: the Halloween capitals of the competing Halloween capitals of the US. 121 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: That's very interesting. I've never heard that. All Right, we've 122 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: each got one fact left, and I've I've saved what 123 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I think maybe my best for last. Even though it's 124 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: not about Candy Corn, it's about Houdini, who appropriately died 125 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: on Halloween. I don't know if you guys knew this. 126 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: So he was rushed to the hospital a week before 127 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: October thirty first, but then he ended up dying on 128 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: October thirty one. Now, his death was the result of 129 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: a ruptured appendix, and doctors were able to remove the appendix, 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: but the damage had already been done. And you know, 131 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: there's some speculation that the rupture was due in part 132 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to a man that was punching him in the stomach 133 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: repeatedly to see if he could live up to the 134 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: rumors that he could withstand hard punches to the abdomen. Now, 135 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Houdini's wife would hold seances every year on October thirty 136 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: one to remember him. This happened for about ten years 137 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: after his death. Alright, Mango, one last fact from you. 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: So this isn't a Halloween fact per se, but it 139 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: is one about candy and and maybe also a cautionary tale. 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: So you know, in the movie Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, 141 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: there's that character Violet Beuareguard who's always chewing gum. So 142 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 1: according to the UK paper, they expressed sugarlist gum didn't 143 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: produce the right bubbles, so she spent nine weeks on 144 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: set chewing regular gum, which resulted in thirteen cavities after filming. Alright, 145 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: you closed pretty strong with that when I think, so, Gabe, 146 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: do you want to bring it home? Yeah? And I 147 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: actually I do want to end on a creepy one. 148 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: This is one of the creepiest things by came across, actually, 149 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: and that's that the candy industry influenced Daylight saving Time. 150 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: You know the actual dates when daylight saving Time occurred. 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: And this is according to Michael Downing, the author of 152 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: spring Forward the Annual Madness of Daylight Saving Time, which 153 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: is a great title, by the light, but the candy 154 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: industry is actually the reason that DFT was extended by 155 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: four weeks beginning in two thousand seven. He told NPR quote, 156 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: for twenty five years, candy makers that wanted to get 157 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: trick or treat covered by daylight saving, figuring that if 158 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: children have an extra hour of daylight, they'll collect more candy. 159 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: In fact, they went so far during the hearings on 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: daylight saving as to put candy pumpkins on the feet 161 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: of every senator, hoping to win a little favor. And 162 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the previous part about this isn't it worked. The candy 163 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: industry eventually got their way. In two thousand five, President 164 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: Bush signed a bill into law that extended daylight Saving 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: time to include Halloween. And you know, supposedly the golf 166 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: and barbecue industries are also said to have been in 167 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: on this. On this push first sending it. I mean, 168 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: it is pretty smart, and I do like those candy pumpkins. 169 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: They're pretty good too, Taste kind of like candy corn, 170 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: but totally different shapes. All right, Gabe, You know, Mango 171 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: and I are always deciding who the winner is. But 172 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: you've done this with us a few times now, so 173 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you decide who takes the crown. Today. 174 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's that's a lot of pressure. And you know, 175 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot my own horn or anything, 176 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: but that fact was pretty creepy. And this is a 177 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Halloween episode, so I like his confidence, so we'll we'll 178 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: agree to that. We'll give it to you, Gabe. Congratulations. 179 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening today. We'll be back with 180 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: a full length episode tomorrow. The pri