1
00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840
Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

2
00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,440
Speaker 1: with on our.

3
00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,000
Speaker 2: Radio Bachelor headlines. We're here with almost famous podcasts. This week.

4
00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,480
Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of headlines, but we do

5
00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,240
Speaker 2: us some important, some big week.

6
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,040
Speaker 3: Have a lot of pregnancy announcements.

7
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,439
Speaker 2: There we go. Let's start with the pregnancy announcements. The

8
00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:23,160
Speaker 2: first one is pregnant Bachelor alum Madison Pruett reveals sex

9
00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,920
Speaker 2: of her baby with husband Grant.

10
00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

11
00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 4: So last week we talked about, of course your baby

12
00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:37,760
Speaker 4: to b and yours. Oh yeah, and how you guys

13
00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,360
Speaker 4: are having a girl? Wait did you say that?

14
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah? We did.

15
00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,280
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so it's the girl. And then Maddie on

16
00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,400
Speaker 4: the same day announced that she was pregnant, and now

17
00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,400
Speaker 4: she's telling us that it is also a girl, and.

18
00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,400
Speaker 3: Now and the other the pregnancy headlines to just go

19
00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:00,120
Speaker 3: in for it.

20
00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 4: Tia Booth is pregnant as well, but we do not

21
00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,000
Speaker 4: know this act of that baby yet.

22
00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,280
Speaker 2: Didn't you just have a baby?

23
00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,440
Speaker 4: I think the age difference is going to be the

24
00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:15,200
Speaker 4: exact same as Dawson. And seriously, yeah, yeah, because Tatum

25
00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,880
Speaker 4: is I think a year and a half, so maybe

26
00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 4: they'll be a little bit less than two and a

27
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,119
Speaker 4: half years.

28
00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,400
Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, maybe two years.

29
00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,720
Speaker 2: That's big news for both of them, something I'm sure

30
00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,440
Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation is very excited about. But also something we're

31
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,080
Speaker 2: very excited about here. It's the almost famous podcast Babies

32
00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,640
Speaker 2: are being made. Why do you think that is, Ashley.

33
00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,640
Speaker 3: Because a lot of us are married now.

34
00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's probably true. It's probably good all

35
00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,760
Speaker 2: growing up, Ben, we're all growing up and we're you know, multiplying,

36
00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,360
Speaker 2: We're being fruitful and multiplying our families. Right, yeah, No,

37
00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,040
Speaker 2: that's it. That's all you got. Yeah, like a little bit. Yeah, okay, cool.

38
00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Why do you have like another reasoning why we're multiplying?

39
00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,000
Speaker 2: No, I think it's love is in the air. I

40
00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000
Speaker 2: think everybody's really excited about bringing kids into this world.

41
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,960
Speaker 4: And so is Jenna Cooper. By the way, guys, Jenna Cooper,

42
00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,680
Speaker 4: who we all remember from Bachelor in Paradise, She is

43
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,680
Speaker 4: also pregnant. Baby Hudson is coming February twenty twenty five

44
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,239
Speaker 4: and all these and she already has a daughter, Presley.

45
00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,880
Speaker 2: Is it a thing to like say the name and

46
00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,680
Speaker 2: the sex early?

47
00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,320
Speaker 3: Is it a thing to give them both in the

48
00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,160
Speaker 3: same announcement.

49
00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the name was like always save for

50
00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,400
Speaker 2: after the birth.

51
00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,160
Speaker 4: We did it with Dawson. With Dawson, we announced his

52
00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,079
Speaker 4: name because nice little partnerships with Amazon.

53
00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be good.

54
00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,639
Speaker 4: But if it weren't for the partnership with Amazon, and yeah,

55
00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,400
Speaker 4: we would have.

56
00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,280
Speaker 2: Somebody pays me enough money, I'll say the name.

57
00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, we were so set on Dawson's name that

58
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,519
Speaker 4: you would have always said it early. That would have

59
00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,360
Speaker 4: been fine. It would have been totally. It was just sacked.

60
00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,960
Speaker 2: The kid's got to go to college, so like, you

61
00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,800
Speaker 2: pay me now, you know you can. Amazon can be

62
00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,400
Speaker 2: responsible for all college funds.

63
00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,800
Speaker 4: That's great, That's what I say. I'm like, whenever anybody

64
00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,280
Speaker 4: gives me crap, I'm like, guys, this baby is yes,

65
00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840
Speaker 4: the baby, the baby, he could go to college now.

66
00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,639
Speaker 4: But also, you know what makes me feel guilty. There's

67
00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,920
Speaker 4: this book in Dawson Dawson's room now that is like

68
00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,640
Speaker 4: an alphabet book, but it says D is for dominic.

69
00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,520
Speaker 4: Because for a while we were gonna name the kid dominic.

70
00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,040
Speaker 4: So at my baby sprinkles, somebody gave me a book

71
00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280
Speaker 4: that is D is for dominic, and no, I look

72
00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,280
Speaker 4: at it, and I feel.

73
00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,920
Speaker 2: Guilty, Yeah you should.

74
00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,920
Speaker 4: I feel guilty for them spending money on a book

75
00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,360
Speaker 4: that doesn't have anything to do with Hayden's name. And

76
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,960
Speaker 4: it also makes me feel weird because it's like one

77
00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,400
Speaker 4: day Hayden is that both of them are going to

78
00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,880
Speaker 4: look at it as like, d it's for dominic Grandpa's.

79
00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,120
Speaker 2: Name, and you don't matter, that's what you should say.

80
00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,720
Speaker 2: And because of that you don't matter, You're.

81
00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,560
Speaker 4: Gonna really ruin your kid's mind? Are you with like

82
00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,040
Speaker 4: all your dry sarcasm?

83
00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

84
00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,320
Speaker 3: It's a girl. You can't mess with her like that.

85
00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,760
Speaker 2: I know I won't either. She's gonna have me like literally, yeah,

86
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,120
Speaker 2: the girl's gonna literally have me just like crying like

87
00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,000
Speaker 2: tears of joy, tiers of all things all the time,

88
00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,919
Speaker 2: like she's mad. Dad has a mess. Like when she

89
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,760
Speaker 2: grows up, her traum is gonna be like my dad

90
00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,000
Speaker 2: was just like really teary eyed all the time, Like

91
00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't really he never really said much, He never

92
00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,279
Speaker 2: really did much. Just he just cried and then I'd

93
00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,280
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that was the only thing I could do.

94
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,520
Speaker 4: Too cute, I don't know.

95
00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,839
Speaker 2: Someon would call it issues. A uh, the biggest headline

96
00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,400
Speaker 2: of the week though, No, babies are huge, like new

97
00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,440
Speaker 2: Life in this World is massive, but the headline like

98
00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:03,919
Speaker 2: really covering. Yeah, all headlines like going across news stations, Yeah,

99
00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000
Speaker 2: all of Instagram, every single thing I pull up, it's Twitter,

100
00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,880
Speaker 2: It's it's Kaylin Bristow and I have a lot of

101
00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,720
Speaker 2: thoughts on this, and I want to hear yours first.

102
00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,400
Speaker 2: Though Kaylen Bristow insinuates she reached out to Tasha Adams

103
00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,839
Speaker 2: after going on a date with Zach Clark. Now here's

104
00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,560
Speaker 2: the deal. To say this headline is to make assumptions.

105
00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,520
Speaker 2: Because Kayln does do this interview that Ashley will tell

106
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,599
Speaker 2: us about. She doesn't really say Tasha's name, but let's

107
00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,560
Speaker 2: be clear, it's very clear to everybody she's talking about Tasha,

108
00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,720
Speaker 2: So Ashley take it away.

109
00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,640
Speaker 4: So on Sunday, an episode of the Betches podcast You Up,

110
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,080
Speaker 4: Uh Huh was released and Haitln said, I went on

111
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,359
Speaker 4: a date with someone from the franchise, and I reached

112
00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,960
Speaker 4: out to the girl that he used to be with.

113
00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,719
Speaker 4: She and I hadn't talked in months, and no, we're

114
00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,520
Speaker 4: not friends. We probably look like friends on the outside,

115
00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,280
Speaker 4: but we're not. That's what makes it seem like it's Taysha.

116
00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,240
Speaker 2: Is that what makes it seem like it's.

117
00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,520
Speaker 4: There's lots of things that makes it seem like it's

118
00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,839
Speaker 4: Stasia because we all kind of know even though it's

119
00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,279
Speaker 4: not out there, like they haven't released this information, but

120
00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,599
Speaker 4: like that Zach and Caitlin have had something in the past,

121
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,440
Speaker 4: currently have something going on romantically, but neither of them

122
00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,960
Speaker 4: have ever confirmed it. So there's step number one, it's

123
00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,400
Speaker 4: probably a recent story. It's step number two in it

124
00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,560
Speaker 4: being probably Tasia. And and then what I'm saying here

125
00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,440
Speaker 4: is that it looks like we're friends, but we're not.

126
00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,000
Speaker 4: And that would be because the two of them hosted

127
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,000
Speaker 4: the show together, but like obviously they were just work

128
00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,760
Speaker 4: friends and not real friends or coworkers you want to

129
00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,880
Speaker 4: call it, not real friends. And then what happens else

130
00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,240
Speaker 4: in the time in the situation that she's shucking you

131
00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,719
Speaker 4: on the podcast as she goes, I asked, you know,

132
00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,960
Speaker 4: what the girl's thoughts were, and she didn't text or

133
00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,680
Speaker 4: apply me back. She called me.

134
00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,400
Speaker 3: She called me and she said, you're a bad person.

135
00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,960
Speaker 3: I've always known this, and your true colors are showing now.

136
00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,960
Speaker 3: So obviously the girl did not support Caitlin pursuing anything

137
00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,640
Speaker 3: with the guy who reached out to her. Whoever this

138
00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,560
Speaker 3: guy might be for m bacheloration, And that is the

139
00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 3: story that Caitlyn told on this podcast, And of course

140
00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,560
Speaker 3: everybody is buzzing because it seems as if it's like

141
00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,560
Speaker 3: kind of step one in Caitlin and Zach perhaps becoming

142
00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,200
Speaker 3: a public couple. I don't know, maybe maybe not.

143
00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,680
Speaker 4: Because if she wasn't comfortable with them being a public couple,

144
00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360
Speaker 4: I don't think she would have told this story or

145
00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,440
Speaker 4: soon to be a public couple. I don't know, Ben,

146
00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,440
Speaker 4: what is your take on this?

147
00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400
Speaker 2: Well, part of it is my take. I mean that's

148
00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,600
Speaker 2: a big question because there's a lot to this that

149
00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,920
Speaker 2: I think we can have takes on, Like what part

150
00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,640
Speaker 2: do you want mine necessarily opinion on because we've made

151
00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,640
Speaker 2: no secret here and I will never back down this.

152
00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200
Speaker 2: I care a lot about Kaitlin Bristo. I think she

153
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,040
Speaker 2: is somebody that will always have a like a part

154
00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,160
Speaker 2: of my life, no matter if it's really far distance

155
00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,400
Speaker 2: or not. Like she's somebody that obviously not only because

156
00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,320
Speaker 2: she was the bachelor on the season, but because I've

157
00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,400
Speaker 2: gotten an r side of it.

158
00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,240
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah, Oh, I forgot a critical element

159
00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,520
Speaker 4: of the podcast episode. I don't keep going then, so

160
00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,040
Speaker 4: she said the girl said you're a bad person in

161
00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,200
Speaker 4: reference to Kaitlin, and then Caitlyn got so mad at

162
00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,880
Speaker 4: that comment that she said that made me really want

163
00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,760
Speaker 4: to send her a picture of me.

164
00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,880
Speaker 2: His Yeah, I'd break it down like this again. I

165
00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,559
Speaker 2: think Caitlin has one of the most extremely loyal hearts

166
00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,880
Speaker 2: or like characters. I won't say hearts. I don't know

167
00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,360
Speaker 2: what that means. She's extremely loyal until you cross her,

168
00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,200
Speaker 2: and I think people and I think Caylen has easily crossed.

169
00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,280
Speaker 2: And I'm giving this like I'm saying this like I

170
00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,439
Speaker 2: would say it to Kaitlin. She gets crossed really quickly,

171
00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,360
Speaker 2: instead of taking the time to, like, you know, wade

172
00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,880
Speaker 2: through these waters and push some things aside that would

173
00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,200
Speaker 2: be offensive and probably be like, hey, yeah, Taysha, like

174
00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,040
Speaker 2: that comment hurts me. You have no longer like I'm

175
00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,400
Speaker 2: no longer like really respecting your opinion in this relationship

176
00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,120
Speaker 2: and just pushing that aside. That still sits with her

177
00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,760
Speaker 2: because she Taysha crossed her, and as a result, Caitlin

178
00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,400
Speaker 2: is going to make sure that somebody knows that Taisha

179
00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,680
Speaker 2: crossed her. I don't think that's a healthy way to

180
00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,960
Speaker 2: live life. I don't think that ends anywhere. Well, unless

181
00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,400
Speaker 2: you're making a headline and this becomes a headline. The

182
00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,920
Speaker 2: headlines work in this world.

183
00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,920
Speaker 3: Tion no way she didn't think this would become a headline.

184
00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440
Speaker 2: There's no way. Caitlyn's really smart. So the other side

185
00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,559
Speaker 2: of this is that Caitlyn's really intelligent. She is. Nobody

186
00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,079
Speaker 2: would ever doubt Caitlin Bristow's intelligence and ability to navigate

187
00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,120
Speaker 2: the meteor world. She's great at it. Let's never assume

188
00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,160
Speaker 2: for a second she doesn't know what she's doing. She

189
00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,880
Speaker 2: knows that this is going to be controversial, and so

190
00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,679
Speaker 2: she's willing to take the heat like she has to be.

191
00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,840
Speaker 2: And if she's not, then that's a whole other conversation.

192
00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,440
Speaker 2: But I know Caitlin, and you know Caitlin, and I

193
00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,400
Speaker 2: want to assume that Caitlyn knows that she's going to

194
00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,800
Speaker 2: take some heat for this, but it's also going to

195
00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,920
Speaker 2: become a headline and it's gonna it's going to be

196
00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,120
Speaker 2: something and that and and having something out there helps

197
00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,079
Speaker 2: right people you know in this world do well, making headlines.

198
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,880
Speaker 2: It's kind of the thing, right, what I've done this?

199
00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,280
Speaker 2: Do I think it would have been? Not? Would I

200
00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,760
Speaker 2: have done this? I might have done it. I don't

201
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520
Speaker 2: like when people cross me either. What I advise my

202
00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,520
Speaker 2: friends to do this would probably be the better way

203
00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,920
Speaker 2: to say that after like when I'm no, I wouldn't. However,

204
00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160
Speaker 2: do I think she was in the wrong. No, I

205
00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,360
Speaker 2: don't in the.

206
00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,199
Speaker 4: Wrong for telling the story or in the wrong for

207
00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,440
Speaker 4: reaching out to Taysha.

208
00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,720
Speaker 2: Ooh, I think she was not in the wrong for

209
00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,080
Speaker 2: reaching out to Taysha.

210
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,040
Speaker 3: Obviously, she was not in the wrong for reaching out Todaysha.

211
00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she When you reach out to somebody, you

212
00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,640
Speaker 2: have to expect both sides. You have to expect somebody

213
00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,640
Speaker 2: to be upset with about it. You don't have to

214
00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,040
Speaker 2: also like respond to it or hold it like hold

215
00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,079
Speaker 2: it in a responsible manner. You don't have to react

216
00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,080
Speaker 2: in the way that the person wants you to react.

217
00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,800
Speaker 2: But telling Tasha was probably like, was definitely the right

218
00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,360
Speaker 2: thing to do.

219
00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, I don't even know why I asked

220
00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,800
Speaker 4: that question. I suppose we don't even know. We don't

221
00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,280
Speaker 4: even know what she decided to do.

222
00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,840
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, we do. Yeah she did.

223
00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,320
Speaker 4: Okay, so there are some there are some photos, so

224
00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:56,080
Speaker 4: yeah she did. She insinuates that perhaps there is.

225
00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,520
Speaker 2: Like there's still an ability to send a picture of that.

226
00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:05,000
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, So based on the fact that she

227
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,280
Speaker 4: didn't like follow Tasha's wishes.

228
00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,439
Speaker 2: Is no wrong.

229
00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no problem with that, no problem with that.

230
00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,440
Speaker 2: But she told Tasha. Now, was she in the wrong

231
00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,040
Speaker 2: for telling a story? Yeah? Probably I would tell and like,

232
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm okay, if Caitlyn sees this and reads this, I

233
00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,719
Speaker 2: don't think that was the right decision. I don't. I

234
00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,480
Speaker 2: wouldn't stand behind that and say, Kaitln, you did the

235
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,959
Speaker 2: right thing by telling the world that this is how

236
00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,600
Speaker 2: it went down. You can tell your friends, you can

237
00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,319
Speaker 2: tell your family, your confidence whatever. Was it right to

238
00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,199
Speaker 2: tell the world. Probably not, because what it's going to

239
00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,640
Speaker 2: do is it's going to cause cause controversy. However, if

240
00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,160
Speaker 2: Caitlin was prepared for the headlines and for the heat,

241
00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,960
Speaker 2: then I don't know, like that's what she wanted. She

242
00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,280
Speaker 2: prepared for it, she knew it, and like I said,

243
00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,120
Speaker 2: Caitlyn's really smart and so I would be shocked if

244
00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360
Speaker 2: she was like I'm gonna say this and nobody's gonna care.

245
00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,760
Speaker 2: Like I don't think Caitlyn thinks that way. She doesn't.

246
00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:16,400
Speaker 2: And so was this Was this a mistake she made?

247
00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,320
Speaker 2: I can't say that yet. She can't say that yet.

248
00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,560
Speaker 2: We don't know how this plays out.

249
00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,280
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fine, and it's just gonna blow over it.

250
00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,560
Speaker 4: Just you know, she's just gonna have to handle a

251
00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,199
Speaker 4: lot of incoming opinions for the next week.

252
00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know how Caitlyn does with that.

253
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,199
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what Caitlyn needs to know. Kaitlyn needs

254
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,480
Speaker 2: to know people love her and they love her because

255
00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,800
Speaker 2: of these moments. She's honest and she's vulnerable, and she

256
00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,480
Speaker 2: says some crazy stuff that makes you go, WHOA, that's wild.

257
00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,319
Speaker 2: I would never say that publicly. Does that mean it's

258
00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,959
Speaker 2: right or wrong? I don't know. I'm not the one

259
00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,080
Speaker 2: to judge that or even say that. Is it going

260
00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,959
Speaker 2: to bring Tasha into the picture again a little bit?

261
00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,079
Speaker 2: But like, Tasha doesn't need to respond to this, right

262
00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,880
Speaker 2: her response has already been given by how she you know,

263
00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,200
Speaker 2: talked about the first time.

264
00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,600
Speaker 3: I wonder what Zach's response is.

265
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,520
Speaker 2: That's the person That's where I was getting is I

266
00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,640
Speaker 2: think the person that puts in the weirdest position to

267
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640
Speaker 2: Zach because Zach maybe never asked for any of this,

268
00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,720
Speaker 2: and he's Zach has been very private kind of since

269
00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,120
Speaker 2: the show on everything he's done except his mission to

270
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,000
Speaker 2: alleviate people who you know, are and to support people

271
00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,600
Speaker 2: who are struggling with addiction. So that puts him in

272
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,520
Speaker 2: a weird space. But that's more of a Caitlin and

273
00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560
Speaker 2: Zach conversation than anybody else is.

274
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,560
Speaker 4: So that's why I was insinuating before that this seems

275
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:43,960
Speaker 4: like it's almost like a soft launch, because I don't know, that's.

276
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,640
Speaker 2: A wild way to do a soft launch.

277
00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,520
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think she would tell the story if

278
00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:54,080
Speaker 4: they were not together, or is this kind of like

279
00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,920
Speaker 4: a slap and they're not together. Hmm. That's a good question,

280
00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,520
Speaker 4: because it's seems like as if, like in my interpretation,

281
00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,640
Speaker 4: it seems like this was a story that she had approved,

282
00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,160
Speaker 4: she had gotten approval from him.

283
00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,280
Speaker 2: There's zero chance that she called up Zach and was like, Hey,

284
00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,320
Speaker 2: here's the deal. I'm going on this podcast and I

285
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,040
Speaker 2: am going to talk about the story in this once.

286
00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,720
Speaker 2: All this story is fine until she's like, you know what,

287
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,600
Speaker 2: maybe want to.

288
00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,520
Speaker 3: Do the part.

289
00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then it was like, whoa, all right,

290
00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,560
Speaker 2: well that's a little vendetta, like a little vindictive. That's

291
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,840
Speaker 2: pretty crazy, Caitlin. That's wild. Like you're not only like

292
00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,440
Speaker 2: admitting to the fact that you're like still with this dude,

293
00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,200
Speaker 2: you're also being like, I want to make sure she

294
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,600
Speaker 2: knows that I am with this dude. That was the

295
00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,960
Speaker 2: part to put it over the edge. Everything else is fine.

296
00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,000
Speaker 2: Everything else is a story, everything else is a truth,

297
00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,120
Speaker 2: like is how the events occurred from her perspective, It

298
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640
Speaker 2: was that part that put it over the edge. I

299
00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,640
Speaker 2: would be shocked and I'm cool being wrong. I'll get

300
00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880
Speaker 2: to text him Kaitlyn, and like, I want her to

301
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,000
Speaker 2: tell me. I'll be shocked if Zach was like, I'm

302
00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,240
Speaker 2: cool if that part is said.

303
00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,680
Speaker 3: Of that part, okay.

304
00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,960
Speaker 2: It felt like something she said in a Caitlin Bristow

305
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,400
Speaker 2: type way to make somebody laugh, to make it like

306
00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,080
Speaker 2: a little controversial, and it just is how Caitlyn talks.

307
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,840
Speaker 2: Now people need to know that. That's just like sometimes

308
00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,080
Speaker 2: Caitlyn says things that you're like, that's just like Caitlin,

309
00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,480
Speaker 2: and is it right? I don't know. Again, you either

310
00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,240
Speaker 2: like her, you don't, But that just felt like a

311
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,800
Speaker 2: moment where Caitlyn was getting way too comfortable in the

312
00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,000
Speaker 2: moment and said something that at the end of the

313
00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,400
Speaker 2: day she'll look back and be like, I probably could

314
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:39,920
Speaker 2: not said that.

315
00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,640
Speaker 4: So does that make you think that they are more

316
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,880
Speaker 4: likely together or more likely broken up together?

317
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,280
Speaker 3: Together?

318
00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Together.

319
00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,680
Speaker 4: You gave me a look.

320
00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,520
Speaker 3: When I said that, as if you're like, I'm as

321
00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,200
Speaker 3: so sure.

322
00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,520
Speaker 2: I just don't Well. I think my whole point was

323
00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't think Zach knew this was coming.

324
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,800
Speaker 4: Okay, So I keep trying it to you because I

325
00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,080
Speaker 4: definitely don't want to talk about it.

326
00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,679
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it.

327
00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,480
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. At the end of the day, like,

328
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,440
Speaker 2: neither you or I are shocked by this interview because

329
00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:17,080
Speaker 2: it's Kaylin, and again we appreciate love and respect Kaylin. Now,

330
00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,400
Speaker 2: do I think this was the right move for her

331
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,239
Speaker 2: to make? I would say no, it wouldn't be how

332
00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,719
Speaker 2: I advise a friend to have an interview. Does that

333
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,359
Speaker 2: mean that Caitlyn would have listened to me? I don't know.

334
00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't think she would probably even call me to ask.

335
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,480
Speaker 2: In my opinion, however, I do think she's very savvy

336
00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,640
Speaker 2: and very smart, and so I want to give her

337
00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,520
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt to say she knew that

338
00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,920
Speaker 2: that comment was gonna cause controversy and she was prepared.

339
00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,400
Speaker 2: I hope for that controversy to exist. Now it's gonna

340
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,959
Speaker 2: spit her out, like you said, in two weeks, it's

341
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,480
Speaker 2: gonna be a nothing and she's gonna be fine. But

342
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,360
Speaker 2: I hope that Kate, Like, if Caitlyn comes to us

343
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,359
Speaker 2: on an interview where Texas is like, I didn't know

344
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 2: that that statement was going to cause content, said say, kaitlinn.

345
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,320
Speaker 2: We have a lot to figure out and talk about,

346
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 2: like how are you so unprepared for that moment? But

347
00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,919
Speaker 2: we like Kaitlin. She's funny and people like her because

348
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,120
Speaker 2: she says this kind of stuff.

349
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 4: It is so funny and it's like just brings you

350
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,960
Speaker 4: back to how she introduced herself to Chris Sols. I'd

351
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,160
Speaker 4: let you plow the f out of my field.

352
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just Caitlin, like you just it's Caitlin Bristow.

353
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,920
Speaker 2: So you like it or you don't, I don't know

354
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 2: what to tell you. Now. It does put Taysha in

355
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,400
Speaker 2: a semi weird position. I just feel like Tasha doesn't

356
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,720
Speaker 2: even need to respond because it's over and she's fine.

357
00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 2: Does put Zach I think in a really weird position. However,

358
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,400
Speaker 2: her and Kaylyn might figure it out and that's great.

359
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,160
Speaker 2: Him and Kaylyn might figured it out and that's great. Uh,

360
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,639
Speaker 2: it's just a big headline, and it was a wild

361
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,080
Speaker 2: thing to say, and we're not used to, let's be clear,

362
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 2: nor do I think we ever should get used to.

363
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:58,919
Speaker 2: We're not used to somebody being this detailed blunt in

364
00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 2: an interview.

365
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,920
Speaker 4: Now, what's interesting is that this headline comes from a

366
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,679
Speaker 4: podcast that's not Caitlin's.

367
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,439
Speaker 2: Why would she not have said out there?

368
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 4: Why would she say it on there and not her

369
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 4: not give promotion to her own podcast.

370
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 3: I think she was.

371
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 4: Probably just like pretty comfortable, and they obviously asked a

372
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 4: question that led her into that story. But like you know,

373
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 4: you and I deal with this sometimes this podcast, where

374
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 4: people will say something and then they don't want it

375
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 4: in there, and then you debate whether you keep it

376
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 4: in there or not.

377
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 2: Most of the time we say no, we'll take it out.

378
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 4: We're usually pretty we're too nice about it. But in

379
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 4: this case, I wonder if if you blurt this out

380
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 4: and you tell the story because you're feeling sassy or

381
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,880
Speaker 4: you had a couple of drinks, who knows, and then

382
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 4: you're like, oh crap, that's how a headline is made

383
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 4: a podcast.

384
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: It's not your own.

385
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was Kaitlyn, I would definitely be saying

386
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 2: that on The Almost Famous podcast, which is why my

387
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 2: wife and I will be doing our whole first baby

388
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 2: interview this Wednesday on the Almost Famous podcast, so you

389
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: can tune in to listen to it here.

390
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 4: All right, guys, Well until next time, I've been Ashley.

391
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: And I've been Ben, and those are.

392
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 3: Our juicy headlines

393
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: By follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts

394
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.