1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: A single best idea quickly on a FED day. That's 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: the way we roll, and we say thank you for listening. 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: A great set of guests today, great set of conversations. 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: I love what Greg Villier said in his research note, 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: these are confusing times. This issue, the next issue that 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: went on from that, just a confusion on this FED day. 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: It would be good to speak to people with decades 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: of authority. Jack Divine joined the CIA in his first 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: mission in nineteen seventy one was Santiago, Chile. Just extraordinary 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: breadth of career and we were honored to have Jack 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Divine of the ARC and Group the Console on Foreign 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: Relations on today on our CIA College of Iran. Here 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: is Jack Divine on the nuclear threat. 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 3: This is a controversial issue today because Tulca Gabbertt went, 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: you know, in March, went down the hill and said 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: that the Iranians did not have a nuclear weapon and 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: it was three years before they could deliver it. And 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: that was raised with President Trump yesterday and he said 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: he's really not counting on that information. And so therefore 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: I think there is a disconnect, and I guess I 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: would have a cautionary note for political leaders, and that is, 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: if you have a choice between the intelligence community that 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: says we're going to give you nothing about the truth, 25 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: and you have political leaders and other countries who have 26 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: a vested interest in presenting facts in a particular way, 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: I would recommend you stick close to those intelligence estimates. 28 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: So having said that, there are subset issues in this 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: that I could touch on, which is, for example, we 30 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: have to be careful and defense of how his presentation 31 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: of the situation that's not underestimated. You cannot get this 32 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: wrong and say that it's not it's not a dangerous 33 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: situation decades. 34 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: Thet's CIA Jack Divine of the ARC group on a 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: FED day, always wonderful to talk to Michael Data synthesizing 36 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: his economics at roth over into a stock market called. 37 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: Didn't talk much about the stock market today with mister Darta. 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Michael Darta here on the FED and the challenges forward. 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: I'll have to say, I mean, I was quite skeptical 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: of this whole AI revolution. I thought it was a 41 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: bit overhyped and overbaked. But I've kind of changed my 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: view on that. And this is just anecdotal, but just 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: through personal use of these AI interfaces. I mean there 44 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: has been a vast and breath taking improvement in what 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: this technology can do. You know, whether we're dealing with 46 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: health wellness from a personal perspective or your favorite macroeconomic modeling. 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's like having fifty research assistants at 48 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: your disposal and you don't even have to be nice 49 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: to them. 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: So Paul asked a question of Michael Darta, And what 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: you don't see is when I'm talking, Paul Sweeney's doing 52 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: research to move forward the program. When Paul's talking, I'm 53 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: doing research. So Paul asked Dart a question, and I 54 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: typed in Google Gemini and I went to a Blenchard 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: con paper of a zillion years ago on linear rational algebra, 56 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: very very academic PhD. And there was all laid out, 57 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: including DSGE, which is what Richard Clare has acclaimed for 58 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: the vice chairman, who will join us today on the 59 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: FED show. I'm with data using AI. It's sobering. We're 60 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: out across the nation. This podcast on Apple, on Spotify, 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: and on YouTube podcasts. This is a single best idea