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Speaker 1: We welcome you into the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Maria.

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Speaker 1: It is Roster cut Down Day and it is uh

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Speaker 1: it is an annual podcast tradition for the best podcast available.

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Speaker 1: Normally we're doing this on a Saturday at about four

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Speaker 1: or five o'clock on Labor Day weekend. Today we come

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Speaker 1: to you on a Tuesday late afternoon as the Browns

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Speaker 1: initial fifty three man roster has been said on Jason

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Speaker 1: Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and Gribbs twenty five players on offense,

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Speaker 1: at fifty three players as we get ready for Kansas

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Speaker 1: City and the regular season. Yeah, this was uh, not

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Speaker 1: not a lot of surprises, I would say, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's usually a good thing. And I think that's more

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Speaker 1: a lot of good players. So really it was all

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Speaker 1: I think the big story is for the Browns is

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Speaker 1: you have the final fifty or the initial fifty three today,

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Speaker 1: then what happens tomorrow? What what goes on with players

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot more moving pieces to get

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Speaker 1: the best fifty three out there for that first week

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Speaker 1: one game. I think it's gonna look a little different

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Speaker 1: by the time you get to that Chief's game. But ultimately,

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Speaker 1: the foundation of this team we knew what were it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're not getting surprised by guys we thought

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Speaker 1: is the final few spots the roster. That's it's a

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Speaker 1: testament to the work Andrewburry has done over the past

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, as I described in the story,

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Speaker 1: this roster is a tale of the two off seasons

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Speaker 1: of Anderburry in terms of what he did on offense

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Speaker 1: and what he's done on defense. One, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: get things going for you. Browns fans placed on the

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Speaker 1: reserve injured lists otherwise known as I are Greg Forbes

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Speaker 1: tough low for Drew Forbes, who again, second, he's been

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Speaker 1: times he suffered a pretty serious injury in the preseason finale.

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Speaker 1: So tough break for Drew Forbes. And and Greg's not

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Speaker 1: season right now. Yea. Indeed, So the rest of the

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Speaker 1: But your two quarterbacks Baker and case Keenum, and you

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Speaker 1: solid guy to stay with this football team. Groups. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean those both of those guys are on this

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Speaker 1: That mean, this is a a position that a lot

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Speaker 1: a position where it's it's physical. These guys get hurt

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Speaker 1: Stephen Carlson maybe his most valuable snaps the last couple

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Speaker 1: that was one that we were watching as things were

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Speaker 1: a path for Caderrel to come back to this football team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just a matter of what happens over the next

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Speaker 1: other teams tomorrow. Caderrell could be one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly talented, valuable and special teams and showed

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Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz is the X factor. I think with his

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Speaker 1: Ten offensive lineman Jedrick Wills, Joel Betony, j C. Tredder,

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Speaker 1: The big question becomes, how's the health of Michael Dunne.

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Speaker 1: I would say this is a day in my time

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Speaker 1: They still made waiver claims, both of them. I believe

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Speaker 1: become available who maybe fit your system better than they

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Speaker 1: here with a couple of players. Final thoughts from you

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Speaker 1: way that made this this decision day both excruciating in

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Speaker 1: You don't have that, and that's a good thing. I

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Speaker 1: think that that's that's where this franchise is at with

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Speaker 1: have said this, it's made for kind of a boring

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Speaker 1: preseason and a boring set of roster cuts, because that

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Speaker 1: enjoyable on too, k C. And I should say regular

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Speaker 1: season had to do the man. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: numbers going on right now as we play the number

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Speaker 1: of game with the Austria. Thanks to Jeff McDaniel for

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