1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, It's mean Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: November nine. I think you guys will be very, very 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: proud of me for two things. Number One, our guest 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: today is as good as it gets on soccer. World 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Cup is about two weeks away, so I leaned on 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: a colleague guy I see around Fox, a legend from 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: the U S national team. You remember him at the 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: World Cup? Is big, bushy red hair. Alexei Lalas stops 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: by Straight Fire. Great chat about the upcoming World Cup. 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: It's a very exciting time to be a live folks. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: This month is going to be one of the greatest 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: months in the history of sports. We've never had a 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: World Cup since I've been alive in November. It's always 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: in the summer. College football, NFL, college basketball, NBA World Cup. Honestly, 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: this is I'm super geeked for the next couple of weeks. 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be chaotic fun, and the beauty of 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: it all is it's right around Thanksgiving, like that's when 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: it really pops off. College football has a monster weekend 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: USA England. You're gonna get excited listening to Alexi Lawless 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: some actionable gambling information if you so designed to gamble 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: on the World Cup, which will be a massive gambling opportunity. 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: All that being said, the other thing you'll be proud 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: of me for is Election night was last night. Did 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: not watch one second of it on the television, avoided 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: social media. I got the kids, I said, guys, we're 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: playing some Dominoes tonight. Um So, dominoes game. I grew 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: up playing play with the fam holidays, family gatherings. I 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: like dominos. Ended up playing dominoes online some during the 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: pandemic with t J houshman Zada, who fashions himself as 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the greatest dominoes player ever. He's good, but he's not 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the greatest player ever. And um so, anyways, played some 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: dominoes with the kids, went to bed early, broke up 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: this morning. Avoided election stuff and it's NBA slates full tonight. 35 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: Looked at some college basketball lines and I'm excited. I'm 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: excited for the rest of this month. The only thing 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: in sports I think, really this morning it's mildly interesting 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: to talk about, is what's going to happen with the 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: college football playoff I know they released the rankings last night. 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: TCU at four drew some ire of some fans. Um, Listen, 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: I don't really have an issue with TCU. I don't 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: know how easy it's going to be for them to 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. Like, are they gonna win against 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Texas this weekend Big Twelve showdown? Texas is up and down. 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: I think they show I would not be surprised if 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Texas won the game. Then TCUs has Baylor, the second 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: best team in the Big Twelve. So like TCU, as listen, 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: if they were on the table, they win their next three, 49 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: they close out against Iowa State, which is dreadful. That's 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: a w UM. But if they beat Texas and Baila, 51 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: they'll get in. If they don't, the Big Twelve will 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: get shut out, and then it's Michigan Ohio State winner. 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: Obviously Georgia lock even if Georgia finds a way to 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: lose the SEC title game two. Increasingly it's looking like 55 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: l s U. I think George's fine. Um, And then 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: the question becomes kin Tennessee, which didn't get to the 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: SEC title game, get in. Maybe they do have a 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: win over Alabama, And then you look at the Big twelve. 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not the Big twelve, the Pac twelve. And 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: that's where there is so many issues. People do not 61 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: like when I say USC is better than Oregon, and 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: again you look at the resumes. Oregon got absolutely humiliated 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: in their one loss to Georgia. Right, understandable loss. Georgia 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: is great. USC lad against Utah for I think fifty 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: nine minutes and thirty seconds, only trailing on the two 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: point conversion. Maybe it was like fifty eight minutes in 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: fifty nine seconds, whatever the number was. Basically, USC never 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: trailed in losing that team except for one minute on 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the road. Hostile territory has underdogs. I understand USC does 70 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: not have a good defense. I get that. I totally 71 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: understand that. That's fine if USC beats U C l A. 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: I think we're going to have a really really, really 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: really interesting discussion about the Pack twelve getting in um 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: the College football Playoff. I'm looking forward to it. I'm 75 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: team USC here, but that's still a couple of weeks away. 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's get to our guest. Former 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: US national team player and Fox Sports soccer analyst Alexei Lallas. 78 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 79 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports dance want, but for 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's 81 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy 82 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: welcome in to straight fire. What the biggest names in 84 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: US soccer? I mean, goodness, gracious, he was an icon 85 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: back a couple of decades ago, playing for the U. 86 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: S national team started a World Cup. It was it 87 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: was probably the hair, obviously, the stout defensiveness. Now he's 88 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: an analyst for Fox Sports. He will be in Cutter, Qatar, 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: however you want to say it for the World Cup 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: doing you know, basically everything. Alexei Lawless joins the podcast Alexei, 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: how you doing? Man? Hey, Jason good Uh yeah, you know, 92 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: back in the n before you were born, back in 93 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: the previous century, I was running around with a lot 94 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: of hair, with a lot of hair ago. Whish I 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: could still grow it. But yeah, I've moved on and 96 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: cleaned up, cleaned up on the outside. Still a mess 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: on the inside and a soccer perspective obviously where you're 98 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: living in uh, interesting and heavy times now, especially heading 99 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: into Uh the Qatar we decided on from a Fox perspective, 100 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: we're calling it Qatar. The word has come down from above. Yes, 101 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you Qatar easy. The que comes 102 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: out easily. But listen, I was I was definitely a 103 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: soccer fan. I think I was still playing club soccer 104 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: at the time when you were rising with the U 105 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: S national team. Uh, the flag draped by this by 106 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: the time you would the flag was Yeah, when your 107 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: shoulders epic. Was it July fourth game? Yeah, up and 108 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: up at Stanford. Up there we lost to the eventual winners, Brazil. 109 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm talking to you today because of 110 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: that summer of ninety four. I mean, I live the 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: power of what a World Cup can do to an 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: individual that changed my life forever in terms of opportunities 113 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: on and off the field. I'm incredibly grateful. And it 114 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: also why it gets me so excited when another World 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Cup is upon us, because I know there are some 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: players that you know, maybe we're talking about me, we're 117 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: not even talking about that. They're gonna get that platform 118 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: and get that you know that power behind them and 119 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: their lives will change forever. And I'm also excited obviously 120 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: what is coming here, being able to host it again, 121 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: coming back, because I still walk around and people will 122 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: come up and me and say that ninety four World 123 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Cup changed not just your life, but um, you know, 124 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: the way that we thought about soccer to be fair, 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the Women's World Cup to both of those were kind 126 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: of seminal moments and really changed the trajectory, and I 127 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: guess you know, changed the perspective not just around the world. 128 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: It was actually much more the way it affected us 129 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: in the United States and the way that we looked 130 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: at soccer, because that soccer was the point that was 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: always coming. It's coming, We're here, it's it's eventually gonna 132 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: be here, and then hits and no listen, I'm sure 133 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to look back on it all the time, 134 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: but you get asked about it. I mean, anytime Alexei 135 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Lawless's name comes up, like you are the guy from 136 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: the nine four team that everybody knows, you know, people 137 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: ask me, oh, dude, what's Lawless like? And I'm like, man, 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: one day, I'm walking around Fox I just see this guy. 139 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: He's huge, he's hulking, and I'm like, oh, ship, it's 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Alexei Lawless. And you know he's friendly as ever. Everybody 141 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: knows you man, and and congrats on all your success. 142 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: I want to start talking about soccer. Um. The MLS 143 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Cup final from last weekend with l A f C 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: was absolutely bonkers. I know, college football was happening at 145 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: the same time, and I was getting more texts about 146 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the MLS Cup then the college football games game was phenomenal. 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: First of all, Um, you know, I'm curious your thoughts 148 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: on it. A guy had a massive goal there at 149 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: the end in Mr Bailee, We're gonna be rooting against 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: him here in short order. Crazy, Um, just your thoughts 151 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: on that game and what it did for soccer because 152 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: it was a man, I did a huge number on TV. 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: It was it was huge. Yeah, we just got the 154 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: numbers and it was incredible. It was on Big Fox, 155 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and you know, I can't think of a better way 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: to kind of finish out an incredible season when it 157 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: comes to Major League Soccer, and we were lucky to 158 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: be able to you know, to broadcast it. But to 159 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: your point, I mean, this is gonna go down as 160 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: arguably the best MLS game and certainly in my in 161 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: my estimation, and I've been there since the beginning back 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: in ninety six, UM when the first one happened. Of 163 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: the twenty seven different MLS Cups, this for for my money, 164 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: is the best MLS Cup I have ever seen. And 165 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you know the privilege of actually being there downtown at 166 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: the Bank of California Stadium, seeing l a f C. 167 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Playing against Philadelphia, and all the narratives that were going 168 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: on with Philadelphia, the big bold coastal elites if you will, 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: against the UH you know, the Philadelphia Union just punching 170 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: above their way and the little engine that could in 171 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the blue collar type of mentality, money ball in the 172 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: way that they go about it, and then obviously l 173 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: a f C coming and there was everything. You know 174 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: that it was back and forth, and that if you 175 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: haven't been down to that stadium, by the way, if 176 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: you're in Los Angeles, or even if you're just coming 177 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: in and there is a game, you know, treat yourself 178 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: because it is an experience unlike anything that you will 179 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: have in a sporting event. They bring it every single 180 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: time to hear the people go crazy and back and forth. 181 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: And there was a time when Philadelphia had the game won, 182 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: they went up a man, they were up a goal, 183 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: and then, as you mentioned, Gareth Bailee, the player for 184 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: l A f C who really has not played a 185 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: whole lot this year. He is the captain for Wales. 186 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk about the World Cup here 187 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: in a second, so we will be facing him and 188 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: his team later on. He comes on as a substitute 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: late in the game and plays hero gets the tying goal. 190 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: It goes into penalties. At that point, the l A 191 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: f C goalkeeper goes off with a broken leg, and 192 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: this young kid who actually had played for Philadelphia comes 193 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: in stones his former team and goes into history because 194 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: this is the first MLS Cup for l A f C. 195 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, a super club if you will, in 196 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Major League Soccer with what they spend in the sexiness 197 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: and the Hollywood ownership and all of that kind of 198 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: stuff that they had. So this game had something for everyone. 199 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: And then it was on national television. I think the 200 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: ratings reflected, but I also think that people will look 201 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: back many many years from now and say that was 202 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: something special. Yeah that I thought the Philadelphia goal in 203 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the eighty like eighty third minute, I was like, oh, 204 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: to bummer for l A f C. They answered, and 205 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: then the one in extra time and at bail it 206 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: was just incredible. Small story. We were vacationing in Cabo 207 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: and we see these two huge bodyguards come into the 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: room next to us. We're like, oh, there must be 209 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: a celebrity here. Turns out it was Gareth Bale and 210 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: his wife, vacation with their kids, and our kids were 211 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: hanging out with his kids at the kids club. And listen, 212 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: this guy is not very big, Alexi. I mean, I'm 213 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: not a big dude. He's like barely my size, but 214 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: he has the long hair. And listen, we're gonna be 215 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: rooting against him pretty heavily. Uh as the US opens 216 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: the World Cup with him. I don't want to get 217 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: to that yet. I want to talk about the process. 218 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: You know, you spend time at the camp in ninety 219 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: four before the Cup again, and I asked to hold 220 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: in about this too. I'm just curious, what is happening 221 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: now We're about two weeks out. What is going on 222 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: at the camp. Is it a jovial atmosphere or is 223 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: it like, hey, we're kind of competing for positions and 224 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: it's a little awkward there. What's happening at camp? Yeah? 225 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, look you have dealt with athletes, 226 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: and you understand athletes, and and I can confirm that 227 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: athletes can be you know, assholes, right, I mean they can, 228 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: they can, but they can be incredibly ruthless in what 229 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: they do, and they can compartmentalize really really well. The 230 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: good ones out out there. And there is a competition 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: within a competition, especially in a in a scenario like 232 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: this where you only have twenty six spots. One of 233 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: the things that we're talking about with this US men's 234 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: national team that's going back to the World Cup is 235 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: the level of talent but also the depth, which means 236 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: that there's much more competition. But even back in my day, 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: all I wanted to do was make that team because 238 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: once you made the team, then at least you had 239 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be on that deal. And I knew 240 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the platform that ninety four was going to be. And 241 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't change if it's in guitar or any place else. 242 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: It is a World Cup. And for these players, some 243 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: of them that are playing in some really big clubs 244 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: making a lot of money, really famous, this is still 245 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: a World Cup. This is something especially I didn't grow 246 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: up watching the World Cup at from a young age, 247 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: they will have all grown up watching the Landon Donovans 248 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: and and these types of players, uh score goals and 249 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: star at the World Cup. So this is the realization 250 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: of a dream for them, and so that competition is 251 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: happening day in and day out. The interesting thing about 252 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: this World Cup is because it's happening in November December, 253 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: there's a very short period of time in that. While 254 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: there are some players that are not playing with them 255 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: less right now because the season is over there in camp, 256 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: a lot of them are still with their club teams 257 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: in you know, Christian Polistic playing for Chelsea and Queston 258 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: McKinney playing for Juventus, and they will train this this week, 259 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: play their games this weekend, then get on a plane 260 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: and all meet in Qatar. So it's a really strange 261 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: World Cup, not just for the Americans, for all the 262 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: teams involved in. The players and teams that are able 263 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: to adjust the most, those are the ones that are 264 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna be successful. Yeah. I'm just trying to it in 265 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: my head of like how the breakdown of the roster 266 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: is gonna go, and I can only imagine what's happening there. 267 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: So you have you do the podcast for Fox Obviously 268 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: it's great. I've listened to it. I love your breakdowns. 269 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: You are a lot of guys, you know, Alexei. A 270 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: lot of the analysts kind of come from the support 271 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: and they might want to get back in so they're 272 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: pulling punches. There's none of that with you. You are 273 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: pretty blunt and and I love it. Obviously. The most 274 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: important I think position is striker. It has been the 275 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: bane of the US soccer existence. We've had so many guys. 276 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to call him out here because some 277 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: of them have come through Fox. Um, it's just been 278 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: an issue. Scoring has been a problem on the big stage, 279 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: and I'm just curious your thoughts as we head into 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: who the hell are gonna score goals for the US 281 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: in Qatar? Alright, So just some little context here because 282 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: we are recording this on Tuesday, November eight. Wednesday is 283 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: when man roster is going to be dropped, and so 284 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: after that happens, people's minds are gonna be blown. People 285 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: are gonna scream and yell. And this is actually a 286 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: good development that we are having debate, that we are 287 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: disagreeing about who should ultimately be not just on the 288 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: twenty six then when Greg Burr halt to the head 289 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: coach puts eleven on the field, there's a whole another 290 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: level of consternation and ankst ankst out there. But to 291 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: your point, and I think this will be at a 292 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: big talking point as we get into covering this team 293 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: in the World Cup, is who is going to be 294 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: that player up top Because we have, even in this 295 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: moment where we're all so bullish about the future and 296 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: these great young talent, that we have that number nine 297 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: striker position, and that is the position that everybody looks 298 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: to to kind of score goals and put the fear 299 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: of God into the opposition. Nobody has really emerged since 300 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: even you know, a Josie alta door and that was 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and even before that a 302 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: Brian McBride. You know, my kingdom for a Brian McBride 303 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: or a Josie Altador at this point. And so now 304 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be much more by committee. You're gonna see 305 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: a guy named Hey SU's Ferrera who plays for FC Dallas. 306 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I think he's the incumbent right now, and not a 307 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: lot of people have a lot of faith that he 308 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: is going to put the fear of God into the 309 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: into the opposition. But I have seen the World Cup 310 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: and the soccer gods. They work in mysterious ways and 311 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: things can do. Things can be very very strange, and 312 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: it can be opposite day when it comes comes to 313 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: the World Cup. But I do think that it is 314 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: a legitimate concern right now as to who is going 315 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: to lead that line, be that number nine striker for 316 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: Greg burr Halter. And I even asked Greg burr Halter 317 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: on my State of the Union podcast. I said, you know, 318 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: earlier this year, said why have we not developed a striker? 319 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: And he looked at me and said, I don't know, 320 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: because we have all of these other players that have developed, 321 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: but this one position, and let's be honest, it is 322 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: the most difficult thing to do in our game, and 323 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: therefore it is, for my for my money, the most 324 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: valuable position, which obviously makes it so unique. So they 325 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: don't just grow on trees, but at some point, you know, 326 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: so something on a bush could have grown for us, 327 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: or something that we can approximate. Fox Sports Radio has 328 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 329 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com and 330 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app. Search F s R 331 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: to listen live. I play a lot of FIFA I confess, um, 332 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: and Ferrera has become a guy I pick up all 333 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: the time. He's a he's a machine. I just I 334 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people who doubt him because 335 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: he hasn't been you know, he's not playing in Europe 336 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: or any other you know, mls IS is a great 337 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: league obviously, but you know, I think there's some people 338 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: who still doubt Ferverra. I'm kind of a peppy guy, 339 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: although I could, I could be honest with you. I 340 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't know who he was two years ago. I've never 341 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: heard of this guy. He has really been a Johnny 342 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Come lately. Um, do you think he is a lock 343 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: to make the team? So you know, Ricardo Peppi also 344 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: from the FC Dallas machine that they have down there 345 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: churning out talent. But he, unlike Haysus, Ferrera got bought 346 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: and went overseas. It did not go well for him initially, 347 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: and now he's playing in Holland, which is absolutely, admittedly 348 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: for everybody, a step down from the Bundesliga in Germany. 349 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: But sometimes you need to go to a place where 350 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: you're more comfortable, where you're more in your comfort zone. 351 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: And this has worked wonders for him from a scoring perspective, 352 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: because as you know that position, ultimately you can play 353 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: well and do all these different things, but you gotta 354 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: put the ball on the back of the net, and 355 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: he is doing that right now. So I think he's 356 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: come back into fashion, if you will right now. I 357 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it's enough to have him start over hey, 358 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: sus Ferira. And that's gonna be the interesting thing when 359 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: this roster drops, And by the way, we'll have an 360 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: instant reaction to that myself. And you mentioned ste Holden. 361 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Of course, the great David massy are our Fox soccer 362 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: researcher extraordinary, is going to be part of that. And 363 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: who Greg Burrholter ultimately picks and how many because you 364 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: got twenty six spots and conventional wisdom says you're probably 365 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna take three to play that one spot, that striker position. 366 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he'll take four, And there's other people 367 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: waiting in the wings. I don't have I have no 368 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: idea what he is going to do. But if it's 369 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: Peppy or if it's Haysu's Ferrara, that person up there 370 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: come that first game against Whales, they have to find 371 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: a way to put the ball on the back back 372 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: of the net. And by the way, in particularly against Wales, 373 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: which is an inferior team than the Yeah, we should 374 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: win that game. So you you bet to It's the 375 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: most important position, it gets paid the most. And we're 376 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: only gonna take three? Now? Is that because you think 377 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: we can kind of move guys around and in a 378 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: pinch push somebody up, or why not take four? I 379 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: mean again, you're the expert. I gotta leave well, no, 380 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I I actually I you know, I have actually argued 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: that you should take four or which would get one 382 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: of these not just different players, but different style of players. 383 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: And so you have like a Jordan p Fock or 384 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: even I know it's not gonna happen, but a Brandon 385 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Bascots who really lit it up in MLS this year 386 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: but has never been in with the team. The only 387 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: reason that I'm I mentioned those two is that they 388 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: bring something completely different in terms of physical presence. A 389 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: guy that can hold the ball up obviously, the guy 390 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: that's good in the box, and that's something that whether 391 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: it's Peppy or whether it's hay SU's Ferrera or even 392 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: a Josh Sergeant, that's not really what they do on 393 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: a consistent level. Now you do lose some other things. 394 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: But that's why I would argue to possibly take four 395 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: And again, this is the first time that teams are 396 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: allowed to take twenty six players to the World Cup. 397 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: In the past, it's been twenty three, even back to 398 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: twenty two players there, so those extra three three you 399 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: can kind of do some interesting things. And I don't 400 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: know ultimately what the strategy is going to be for 401 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Greg burr Halter or any of the coaches when they 402 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: look at that twenty six man roster. Do you think 403 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: burr Halter will tweak the uh you know, whether it's 404 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: a four four two or do you think I mean, 405 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: do you see any like maybe curveballs coming that could 406 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: impact the number of strikers he takes. I don't think yeah, 407 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: And I don't think from a tactical perspective he is 408 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: going to change. And and for those that are going 409 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: to kind of be introduced to Greg Berhalter here coming 410 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: up this next month in the World Cup. This this 411 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: is a guy got a lot of time for him, 412 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: incredibly smart um, but still young and relatively inexperienced and 413 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: he's been given this plum job of the national team 414 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: in the in a moment with all of this talent 415 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: that we're talking about, he is a romantic. He came 416 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: in with a mandate that either was self imposed or 417 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: imposed on him to fundamentally change the way that we 418 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: play and in doing so make us kind of progress, 419 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: evolve and look at ourselves in a different way. As 420 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of sports, there are these romantics, right, 421 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: But the real test is when it gets down to 422 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: brass tacks, because he's gonna be judged on the World 423 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: Cup and he's gonna care what happened in the last 424 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: couple of years. Do you betray your ethos, do you 425 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: betray your philosophy in the most important, important moment, or 426 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: do you die on that hill? Because what he wants 427 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: to do with the team, I'm not sure. Well, I 428 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: think what he has found out over the last couple 429 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: of year is that he can't do it, and he 430 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: has become a little bit more pragmatic. But a World 431 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Cup does strange things and it'll be interesting to see 432 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: ultimately where he falls on that hill. So so, on 433 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: a much smaller scale, like we're we're doing local soccer, 434 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm in with our coach and we've 435 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: been doing a certain lineup with only two defenders all season. 436 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: So eventually, Alexi, I say, why don't we try three? 437 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: So we try three defenders. We play the best team, 438 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: we play our best game, and now we're gonna surprise 439 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: everybody in the postseason with three defenders in a tweak lineup. 440 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering, is there anything that you think 441 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Berhalter might do it? Does it sound like it based 442 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: on your answer, No, I mean I think it'll Well, 443 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: first off, it's gonna be a four three three. I 444 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: don't think that that is going to change. From a 445 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: tactical perspective, I think it's pretty much set. You know, 446 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: you have a Christian politic on the left hand side. 447 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: There's some questions on the right, you know, either Awaya 448 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: or if Geo Raina, who's a real young talent, but 449 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: he's kind of fragile and has been in and out 450 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: and hurt. But he's playing now and where is he 451 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: show it? We talked about the guy up top that three. 452 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna change unless there's an injury. 453 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: In terms of that midfield three with Tyler Adams who's 454 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: playing over it leads um Western, McKinney was playing at 455 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Juventus and UNI Units mostly plays over in Spain. That's 456 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: pretty much set, but there's plenty of help that comes 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: off the bench, including Brendan Aronson the back four. I 458 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: think that's where there is a question as to who 459 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: who is going to play uh not. On the left 460 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: hand side, it's gonna be Robinson. On the right hand side, 461 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Sergino Desk who was at Barcelona now 462 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: he is at at A C. Milan. And then Walker 463 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Zimman who plays in Nashville. Who is next to Walker Zimmerman. 464 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: That's going to be a question mark right now, and 465 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't I have no idea who ultimately he is 466 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: going to decide. And then in goal, now this is 467 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting because he has a soft spot for 468 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Zack Stephen who was with Man City although he wasn't 469 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: playing and now he's been loaned out. Um. But Matt 470 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Turner who was within New England Revolution and now he's 471 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: with Arsenal, even though he's the second goalkeeper, I just 472 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: think he's a better goalkeeper and I think ultimately I 473 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: think he's gonna go with the better goalkeeper, even though 474 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: maybe he's not as good with his feet, and Greg 475 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: Holter wants to play out of the back. Are you 476 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: taking the most heat you're taking for any of your 477 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: takes on the lineup? Is it? It? Does it have 478 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: to do with goalie? No? I think it's much more 479 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: who who pairs Walker Zimmerman right now? Because, for example, 480 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: there's a guy named Aaron Long who plays for Red 481 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: Bull in Major League Soccer, and he did not have 482 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: a good game or a pair of games in this 483 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: last window, the ultimate window right before the World Cup, 484 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: and so I think people have some real trepidation. And 485 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I think it's justified to be to be worried because 486 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: he is prone to making mistakes. But a lot of 487 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: people want to put a player named Tim Reem who 488 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: has actually been around. He's in his thirties. He's actually 489 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: starting game in and game out over for Fulham in 490 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: the p L against some very very good competition. But 491 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: there's always a trade off, right, So he's what, he's 492 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: good with his feet, and he's a smart player. Uh. 493 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: And he's got let let foot, but he's not fleet 494 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: of foot. Uh. And if we are pushing up and 495 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: pressing a team and all that space behind doesn't matter 496 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: whether it's soccer or any sport, space behind a defender 497 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: or somebody that is, you know, covering on the football 498 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: field or whatever, that is dangerous because if you don't 499 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: have the speed to recover, and by the way, you 500 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: are facing the opposite way, then the other person is going. 501 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: So you have to turn, you know, like a defensive 502 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: back or whatever. You know, you have to turn and 503 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: run and do all those things that could be real 504 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: problematic for a guy like Tim Rey for for some reason, 505 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: really always gets lit up during national team games on 506 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: social media. People just you know, you see his name 507 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: on the lineup, You're just like, oh man, we're in trouble. 508 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: But well, you know, American soccer, we're we're you know, 509 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: we're we're a pain in the ass. I mean, let's 510 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: be we're gonna complain about everything. Yes, yes, that's that's 511 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: how they normally act. I'm curious not a lot of 512 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: talk about DeAndre Yedlin. I will confess he's one of 513 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: my favorite players on the US national roster. I've been 514 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: in love with his speed at the back. Um. I 515 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I fashioned myself as like a fast player I just 516 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: love his style. Where is where does he fall in this? 517 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the backup for the right back position. 518 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: And keep in mind now, because the US men's national 519 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: team didn't qualify for the last World Cup, in my estimation, 520 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: the biggest failure in US soccer history. It was a 521 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: step back to go a step two steps four basically 522 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: and not necessary to do it, but we used it 523 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: to the advantaged silver lining type of thing and went 524 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: two steps four. Um, if if all go his planned 525 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: with the starting eleven against Wales, there's not gonna be 526 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: a single player on the field that has ever played 527 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: in a World Cup. If DeAndre Yelin starts or it 528 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: gets on the field, he would be the unique individual 529 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: who actually was there eight years ago that actually played 530 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: in a World Cup. But I think right now, Sirgino 531 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: dest Is is absolutely the right back and so DeAndre 532 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: is a wonderful player to have because of his experience 533 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and because he's very good if if, if need be, 534 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: he can play in that right back position, and DeAndre 535 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: can also go play in that left back position. So um, 536 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at some point in the tournament, 537 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: especially if they get out of group play, that DeAndre 538 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: sees the field. So you just mentioned something. Um, no 539 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: players that could start game one have ever played in 540 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: the World Cup. I saw a stat that we have 541 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: the youngest roster or likely roster by by a considerable amount, 542 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: Alexei the one thing by design, right, I haven't seen 543 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: analysis on historically how have the youngest teams in the 544 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: field done. I don't have it in front of me. 545 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: I know, I'm sure Mossy would be able to rattle 546 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: it off here, but but it's it's not great, uh, 547 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: in terms of how you know, while it is a 548 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: young man's or a young woman's game a World Cup, 549 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: and it's been proven time and time again, it's the 550 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: proper balance. And so going with an all young team, 551 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: which is what this is happening, there's that balance, is 552 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: not there. I actually think that this team in particular 553 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: has kind of harnessed um and kind of learned to 554 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: use this young gun type of mentality. Yes, you know, 555 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: there is a youthful exuberance and a youthful swagger that 556 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: I think that they recognize not just the responsibility but 557 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity to kind of on their watch. Not only 558 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: did they get back to the World Cup, but they 559 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: want to do some big things and they don't know what. 560 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: They don't know, right, They're gonna do stupid stuff because 561 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: young people do stupid stuff every once in a while, 562 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: but they're also gonna do stuff that's gonna blow your 563 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: mind because they don't know to have any trepidation or 564 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: any type of fear or or be nervous about anything ultimately, 565 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: because they're just going out there and doing, by the way, 566 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: what they have been taught to do from a very 567 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: very young age and kind of an incubator and really warm, 568 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: nurturing cocoon and pathway that we have developed that previous generations, 569 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: not just mine, but even after that never had as 570 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: uh in terms of their pathway to get where they are. 571 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: So well, while we should recognize that they are young, 572 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to dumb it down and I don't 573 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: want to let them off the hook. You should expect 574 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: this US men's national team to make you believe again 575 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: and in doing so, get out of the group and 576 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: do big things despite their youth, despite their inexperience. That 577 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: was my next question, like what is a realistic expectation? 578 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: And I know that's realism means a lot to different people. 579 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: Out there. But as sports fans, right, I'm a New 580 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: York Jets football fan. Realistically, coming in the season, I 581 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: had no expectations they were not going to be good. 582 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: They were terrible last year. They've been great. It's been 583 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise. Realistically, I believe we could get out 584 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: of this group. Alexe. It really comes out of the 585 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: first game, right. We can't lose to Wales because then 586 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: you got so go ahead. So when we so, when 587 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: we look at this team right now, first off, getting 588 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: to a World Cup from the men's perspective, we shouldn't 589 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: break our arm patting ourselves on the back. I know 590 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: we didn't get there last time, but it's something that 591 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: consistently we had done, which is why it was the 592 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: biggest failure not getting there. Also getting out of our group, 593 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: we have done that in many of World Cups, so 594 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: that shouldn't necessarily be Hey, we finally made it type 595 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: of moment in this group in particular, which is certainly 596 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: not the dust difficult group that we've had in World Cups. 597 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: If you look at this group, we should beat Whales 598 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: and we should beat I run. Okay, you take your 599 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: chances against England. And while it would do that. It 600 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: would warm the cockles on my red headed American heart 601 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: to beat England. Uh and it it would just it 602 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: would be just so nice to be able to shove 603 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: it in their face. It's still an elite team here, 604 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: and we are going to have to play really well 605 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to have some luck from from 606 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: above in that second game. Right there, to your point, 607 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. That first game against Wales, if you 608 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: come out of the shoot and you get yourself three points, 609 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: you get that win, then your golden because the second game, 610 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: now the pressure is all on England. We are put 611 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: in that nice, familiar and comfortable under dog role and 612 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: we can roll the dice there and then the third gain. 613 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: We almost knew we're gonna have to play around in 614 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: the third game. That's another team that we can beat. 615 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at it as absolutely there's six points 616 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: out there and who knows what happens against England, and 617 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed if we didn't get those six points. 618 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: At the very least, I would agree with every second 619 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: every word you said. England has a history of playing 620 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: down to the competition. Um. Again, they are loaded there. 621 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: I think one of the top favorites to win the 622 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: whole thing. But this Wales team, they I guess they 623 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: barely qualified. Other than Bail, I don't know anyone. Do 624 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent on that team. I mean, look, 625 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: it's been it's it's been since back in the fifties, okay, 626 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: when they last qualified for the World Cups. So for them, 627 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is it? All right? They 628 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: are I'm not just saying that they're going there is 629 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: tourists or they're just going there is holiday on a holiday. 630 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: But they've already won, let's be honest, okay, And so 631 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: we kind of have to use that to our advantage. 632 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they're not going to give us 633 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: a game. And by the way, I'm also not saying 634 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: they can't beat us. The thing is that both Whales 635 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: in Iran, when I gave you that scenario, how the 636 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: US is looking at the other two teams, they're both 637 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: looking at it in the same way. Okay. England says 638 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna beat everybody, Iran says we're gonna beat Whales 639 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: in the U S. And Wale says we're gonna beat 640 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: in the U S and and Iran and so that's 641 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of how how it's gonna go. Uh you know, 642 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: I I'm real excited to see ultimately how how this goes. 643 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: That first game. Again, to your point, I just think 644 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: is is so is so crucial, and I don't want 645 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: to put all the eggs in that basket because you know, 646 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: if if they don't win, then the pressure is on 647 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: them going into that England game that they have to 648 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: do something. And look that that game is gonna be 649 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: nuts on Black Friday. It's gonna do a ridiculous rating 650 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna be there and watch it. And while 651 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: my job and your job obviously is to is to 652 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: hype up and get people excited. I mean, hell, if 653 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm not excited about the game, then why should a 654 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: viewer or a listener be excited? Right? So that is 655 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: my job. But I'm also not here to blow smoke 656 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: up your asser, right. I am here to give it 657 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: to you straight, okay. And yes, I am a glass 658 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: half full type of person, and I am incredibly bullish 659 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: about this team for a number of different reasons, but 660 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: not the least of what it goes back to. I 661 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: think they want this moment. They want to have you 662 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Jason and everybody out there watching look at that screen, 663 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: whether they know anything about soccer or not, say that 664 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: dude is awesome. That Western McKinney. I want him on 665 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: my team. I want him in a bar fight. I 666 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: want to hang out with that dude. You know, that's 667 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: what you want to see from this team. And I 668 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: think that they they're smart enough, even though they're young, 669 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: they're smart enough to recognize the window of opportunity that 670 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: they had here and it's relative to the performances that 671 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: they put in. Yeah, um gosh, I'm excited. Now Fox 672 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 673 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 674 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f 675 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Sure. False. When you were 676 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: at camp in ninety four, you guys obviously broke down 677 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: the group and who you're playing. Was there any talk 678 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: at all? If we advance out of the group, here's 679 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: who we might play. It was for us, the only 680 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: goal was let's get out of the group because that 681 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: equated success. Okay. Um, you know, and and look, there 682 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: was pressure on us because we were hosting the World 683 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Cup and we didn't want to bomb out in flames 684 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: and not you know, not not not. It wasn't even 685 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: just for us, it was for soccer, right, so the 686 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: pressure of the future of soccer was on us at 687 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: least doing well. And I think everybody agreed if you 688 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: get out of the group then it's success and then 689 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: everything else is kind of gravy. And we ended up 690 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: losing to Brazil, which ended up winning the World Cup. 691 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: So there's no shame. There's no shame in that. So 692 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: there is a pathway there. I will say this that 693 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: back then, and I'm not gonna go into you know, 694 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: all the details, but there was a game, the third 695 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: game we ended up losing one nothing to Romania. Had 696 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: we found a way to get a point in that game, 697 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: it would have changed the trajectory in terms of who 698 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: we played. And while it was incredible on July four 699 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: at Stanford to play against the future winners Brazil, we 700 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: could have had an easier path. And so every moment 701 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: in those three games in group play, and so whether 702 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: you're watching that first game against Wales, that second game 703 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: against England, or that third game against Iran, every moment 704 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: counts and things can change dramatically by you know, a 705 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: ball going here, a ball going there, the soccer gods, 706 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, going off, somebody's ear, somebody tripping, a red card, 707 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: a bad foul, all these different things that happen, and 708 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's the drama of sports that we love. Okay, Macro. 709 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Look at the tournament of the Big Six. I think 710 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: going back fifty years or something like that, only six 711 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: countries have won the World Cup. Most likely one of 712 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: those two miss advancing to the knockout stage. That would 713 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: be like France, England, Brazil. It'ly you know, not rely, 714 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, so look, I mean, it's history is not 715 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: good in terms of a team repeating. All right, you 716 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: have to go back decades, back into the nineteen hundreds 717 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: to see Brazil, Brazil do it, and so you're you're 718 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: safe money is that France is not going to repeat, 719 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: even though they are really really good and they've only 720 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of improved and they just have loads and loads 721 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: of talent. I think, uh, you know, I haven't looked 722 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: at the odds yet, but I would. I would. I 723 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: would assume that Brazil is your your real safe type 724 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: of money. You're not gonna win a lot of money, 725 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: but it's your safe type of money and they are stacked. 726 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: And if I had to put my money, I would 727 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: put it on a Brazil. If I had to put 728 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: your money, Jason, and win some money, you know, and 729 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: risk some stuff, all of your all of your money, 730 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I would put it on someone like the Netherlands. You 731 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: know which is right. It's look, they've always been a bridesmaid. 732 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: I think they're coming in. They've got a good path 733 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: that we were talking about to, you know, to get there. Um, 734 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: they they I think they're feeling confident. They do have 735 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: a pedigree. I mean, this is the Netherlands, by the way, 736 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: so they have been there before. So it's not a 737 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: complete dark horse like say, uh a Denmark, which a 738 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about right now. Netherlands. Yeah, 739 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: the Argentina, you can't look messy right now, is playing 740 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: as well as we've ever seen him, especially you know, 741 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: the comfort level that he seems to feel right now 742 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: is he's going into this golden era of his career 743 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: with Argentina. That should scare anybody who's who's playing them. 744 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: It's a balanced team, it's a team that is well coached, 745 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: and it's also a team without drama, and that is 746 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: a unique thing to say about Argentina right now. So 747 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, including David Mossy. I got 748 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: result If from the safe money perspective. He's got Argentina 749 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: from his safe money perspective. And like I said, a 750 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: Netherlands if you want to win some more money. You know, 751 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: we love narratives here in the media, Messy winning at all. 752 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a better outside of the 753 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: US winning or something. Um, just the messy story. You know, 754 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: Copa America and now they this would be incredible. Um, 755 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're a messy guy, messy versus Ronaldo. No, 756 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm Ronaldo. I'm in the Ronaldo camp. However, I will 757 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: say this, uh if if if Messi, if Messi comes 758 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: through and wins this World Cup, I don't think that 759 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: they're even me Okay who I've found different ways to 760 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: argue for Ronaldo. I don't think there's anybody that can 761 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: argue then that he is the greatest player ever to 762 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: play the game. Look, this is this is a hacking player, diminutive, 763 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: left footed who plays for Argentina. What do you think 764 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: is gonna happen? You're always going to be compared to 765 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: Diego Maradona and until you actually check that that World 766 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: Cup box. It's it's not that you're not a great player, 767 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: possibly not the greatest player ever. It's just this is 768 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: where you were born and this is what you are 769 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: up against. You mentioned the Copa America which they won 770 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: last year, and they did check that box, and I 771 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: think it did alleviate some pressure and this balance that 772 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. While they certainly give the ball to 773 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: him at times and have him do his magic, which 774 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: he can do, they don't defer to him. I'm talking 775 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: about his teammates on Argentina. There as plenty of talent 776 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: that is surrounding him, and in that moment when they 777 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: do need a moment of magic, they give it to 778 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: him as opposed to the very beginning say hey, go 779 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: do your stuff and we'll watch you from afar. So 780 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: there's a real there's a real good cohesiveness with this 781 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: team right now. And then I also want to get 782 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: into Mexico question. Um, you know, we have some listeners. 783 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: Obviously I'm a minority owner of a soccer teamon Lega 784 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: am X now, so you know we do want to 785 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: talk some more soccer on the podcast. But I'm curious 786 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Mexico. They I think believe allouncer roster 787 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: today or yesterday. Um, and there's some I guess everybody 788 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: seems pretty content. Um. Your thoughts on Mexico heading into 789 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: the well. I was just walking just watching Chucky Lozano 790 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: and he's doing well. Uh so that's you know, that's 791 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: a good thing for Mexico. Listen, this is I cannot 792 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: think of a time going into a World Cup when 793 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: there have been lower expectations and more pessimism when it 794 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: comes to L three uh than right now. And I 795 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: actually think that's a good thing. I actually think that 796 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: Mexico is getting out of the group, and not only 797 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: getting out of the group, but tak to Martino ultimately 798 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: is going to do what he was hired for, which 799 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: just to get them to their fifth game. That the 800 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: king to Partido right that I think is going to 801 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: happen here because the expectations are so low. And look, 802 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: it's not an easy group. You know, I have groups. 803 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: I got people all over the pier, in my in 804 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: my grotto here and stuff like that. So when you're 805 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: talking about Argentina, when you're talking about Saudi Arabia, when 806 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about Poland you know this. It's not an 807 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: easy group. But this is a group absolutely that you 808 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: should expect Mexico to find a way out, even though 809 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: for a lot of people this is not one of 810 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: the great Mexico teams going to this World Cup. I 811 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: think they've they've lost in the knockout stages, like the 812 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: last six World Cups, five or six, something like that. Yes, 813 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: there is this you know the this smith you know 814 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: this mythology. Now you know this turned into you know 815 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: this this cycle type of moment where they're just trying 816 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: to get to this fifth game and it's they've been there, 817 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: but it was so far in the past that now 818 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: they just constantly can't get past that round of sixteen game. 819 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: And that's ultimately what to Martino, like I said, was 820 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: hired for and he's come under a lot of pressure 821 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: like everybody else, but ultimately he qualified the team. He's 822 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: there and now we're gonna see if he can work 823 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: as magic in the World Cup. All right, we'll wrap 824 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: up with a question on the US. Didn't tell you 825 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you this, but if you had 826 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: to pick one guy who you think would be the 827 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: most important the biggest key, and I know it's never 828 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: about one guy. It's a team players. One guy who 829 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: would that be heading into the Cup. I think Western 830 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: McKinney is gonna urge is the star. But one guy 831 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: um that you're not gonna see and he's not going 832 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: to get the fanfare as a Tyler Adams okay, And 833 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: it's not that people don't know who he is, but 834 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: he does that dirty work that's not sexy and it's 835 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: not gonna appear on highlight films or anything like that. 836 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: And when I say that, what I'm talking about is 837 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: in a in a soccer game, you need people that 838 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: are going to cover for you defensively, you need people 839 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: that are going to cut out those passing lanes. And 840 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,959 Speaker 1: not only is he really smart and aware about doing 841 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, but his physical attributes make him 842 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: and enable him to gobble up space. And he wears 843 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: his heart on his sleeve, as do a lot of 844 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: these players here, but it's in a much more mature 845 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: and subdued way than you know, say a Weston McKinney. 846 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: I think you know, if if Steu Holden was here, 847 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: he would be tapping me saying hey, Eunice Musa Unice Musa, 848 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: who is a really young player, but I think is 849 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: going to have a really, really good tournament and I 850 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: think you'll be able to see more of why he 851 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: is so important. You know, the Christian polistics of the world, 852 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna get plenty of attention. Like we mentioned, uh 853 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: Timthi wea on that right hand side as a as 854 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: a pure winger. But I would I would focus in 855 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: on on Tyler Adams because I think even if you 856 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: don't know a whole lot about soccer, if you actually 857 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: find a way to watch him on the screen, I 858 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: think there will be an appreciation that you will develop 859 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: for the space that he gobbles up, but also the 860 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: space that he sees in the positions that he puts 861 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: himself in where there is there there is no wasted 862 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: movement or energy on his part. Yeah, very exciting and 863 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: just listening to you talk about it. We're two weeks 864 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: to go. Uh hey wait, I'm leaving Thursday. I'm leaving Thursday. 865 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: Have you been to Qatar before? I've been twice already now, 866 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: So we're going back and look the country or sometimes 867 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: the countries that host these things always end up being 868 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: part of the story. And and even sometimes the Star. 869 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: It's no different here Qatar. We know people are gonna 870 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: talk about it. There's gonna be good bad said as 871 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: we go along. Ultimately we're there to you know, to 872 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: provide uh you know this the pictures and the commentary 873 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: on what is going on from a soccer perspective. But 874 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: we're not immune or we don't ignore everything that is 875 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: going on out there. But it is gonna be this 876 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: brigadoon type of experience where everybody is in one city, 877 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: nobody's going anywhere. It's the ultimate bubble, if you will, 878 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: or you know, and it could be you know, the 879 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: romance of a of a woodstock, or it could be 880 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: you know, a fire fester. We we don't know. We 881 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: don't know how it's ultimately gonna play out here, but 882 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be crazy because nobody's you know, satelliting out 883 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: there's no planes anywhere. All the eight uh uh stadiums 884 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: are all within forty five minutes, and so it's gonna 885 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: be really really something to see. I can't believe they 886 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: built eight. I mean that's anyways, all right, have a 887 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: safe time there, Alexi. Thank you very much for taking 888 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: the time, and we're looking forward to all your coverage 889 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: in the Cup. I can't wait. It's so much fun 890 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: to talk to you as as always you you do 891 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: great work and I watched you all the time, so 892 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: thank you for having me