1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: Oh, welcome in hour number two Friday edition Clay Travis 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: us as we are rolling through the program here. Had 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about the plane crash that took 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: place in Washington, DC and what might have occurred that 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: caused that to happen. It seems increasingly likely it was 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: a combination of human error from both the air traffic 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: controller and potentially the crew aboard the helicopter itself. That 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: is what all of the evidence is pointing to. We 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: will continue to follow that. I imagine there will be 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: more and more news coming out around that in the 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: days and weeks ahead of that tragedy that took place 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night. Now, another story that is out Buck 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: that is not particularly huge in terms of its significance 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: in a larger scale, but is I think really important 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: as it pertains to the overall vibe shift that is 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: underway and the culture that is being created. Trump has 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: issued another order that effectively, I'm reading from our friend 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: at Libs of TikTok, that effectively eliminates gender ideology from 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the federal government. By five pm today, the following changes 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: must be made and there is a long list that 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: has to do with gender ideology, and this is the 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: idea that your gender is fluid in some way, that 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: there is that there are seventy five different genders, that 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: all of this is underway, and what it will do is, 26 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: among other things, Buck, you are no longer allowed to 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: have your pronouns in your government email address. 28 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Now. 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: I bet this will lead to loaded lines here because 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Buck, but I've heard from 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: so many people over the past several years, not inside 32 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: of government, some government employees, but even more outside in 33 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: private industry, who say that they were given the choice 34 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: to put their pronouns in their bio signatures, but then 35 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: were followed up with by HR if they weren't doing 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: it as an effort to basically mandate speech. And I 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: bet many of you out there listening to us right now, 38 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: either in government or private workspaces, have felt compelled to 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: put your pronouns in your email signature because you were 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: being judged inside of your corporation or inside of your 41 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: workplace for not doing so. And so this will say, hey, 42 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: that's gone, we didn't have that for what what did 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the start? Buck? What do you think like twenty fifteen 44 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: ish twenty fourteen. 45 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: I think it was around the really the beginning of 46 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: the Trump era was it became popularized as part as 47 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: the hashtag resistance stuff too. 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: I remember going to a school event at Vanderbilt University 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: and just being in like I couldn't believe is the 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: first time I'd ever seen pronouns on name tags. And 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, how in the where did 52 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: this come from? Because it felt so strange to me 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: walking around to see somebody say, hey, my name's Janet 54 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: she her on the name tag. I'm like, I can 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: tell who you are. 56 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: According to AI, it really gained traction around twenty eighteen 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: during the first Trump term that that you know, it 58 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: got very popular. So I do think it was tied 59 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: in somewhat with the hysteria and the mental unwellness of 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: the anti Trump left. But first of all, it has 61 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: always been since this thing has been around, this practice 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: has been around either allegiance or submission. Right, So you 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: either do it because you believe in this and you 64 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: think that this show's everybody who you are, not who 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: you are, by the way, gender wise, because people, you know, 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: this is very very rarely are people confused about this. 67 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: That's quite a rare thing. It's who you are politically speaking, 68 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: or it's I don't want to get in trouble, so 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: I'll do what you guys say. And either one of these. 70 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: It reminds me of masking a little bit in that regard. 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: Either one of those things is bad and that Trump 72 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: is getting rid of it from the government. It really 73 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: is essentially a non a non deity religion or a 74 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: kind of a like a civic religion, a civil religion 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: where people do this kind of stuff. It has no 76 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: place in your government work. It would be like sending 77 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: around an email saying I'm super right wing at the bottom. Well, 78 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: if you're working for the government, like you're not really 79 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: supposed to be doing that right or because it says 80 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: you're super left wing. I mean, that's what it is 81 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: announcing to people. So I love that Trump is doing this. 82 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: I do think everyone has to remember all the executive orders, 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: as great as they are, and they are great and 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: I love them. Now we have to start getting to 85 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: Congress at some point here to do some of these 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: big things, because otherwise they just get revoked as soon 87 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: as you have a Democrat president come in. That's right. 88 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So as much as you can enjoy these executive 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: orders the force of law either coming through courts stamping 90 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: it and saying this is permissive, which is one way 91 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: that the executive order fully has the arbiter of the 92 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: force of law. The other one is Buck just mentioned 93 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Congress taking action among other things that are happening right now. Buck, 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: and I'm curious to get your reaction on this. As 95 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: someone who worked at the CIA, Trump has not only 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: done away with the security clearances from all fifty one 97 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: intelligence agents who signed the document saying that the Hunter 98 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: Biden laptop had all the hallmarks of disinformation. According to 99 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: a Daily Wire report, he has also now banned all 100 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: of those individuals from entering US government buildings. So they 101 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: are now not only banned from being able to get 102 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: the security briefings, which you know more about than many do, 103 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: but it would be something that kind of you get 104 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to keep receiving. How many people get a security briefing 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: like this? Would you have any idea? Would be you're 106 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: talking about the guys who have there. If you're a senior, 107 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting because it operates in this kind of gray space. 108 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: If you were a very senior intel person. Your clearance 109 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: can stay with you, and you can go to work 110 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: at a government contractor with your clearance and you don't 111 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: have to stay in the government. Obviously it can lapse, 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: like my clearances have lapsed. But some people, as a courtesy, 113 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: as in if you were the FORMACYI director, it is 114 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: just assumed that your clearance is maintained indefinitely because you 115 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: may need to be brought in to confer on something. 116 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: But what it really means is that you keep your 117 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: classified access even when you're no longer in power and 118 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: no longer needed for your day to day job, which 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 2: honestly has a tremendous amount of value in the private 120 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: right it can I mean, you know, it depends I 121 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: think on yes, yeah, I think the answer is as 122 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: I think the the perception of that access is certainly 123 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: very valuable. But a lot of people don't, you know, 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: don't sort of take advantage of their ability to go 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: in or or don't try to do it. Some do. 126 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: I think that Bill Clinton, for example, is one of 127 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: the rare former presidents who still sometimes has like availed 128 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: himself of the ability to get classified briefings just just 129 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: because probably less now that the Clinton global grifting initiative 130 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: has come to a screeching halt. But yeah, this is 131 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: again I was I was a little nobody at the CIA, 132 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: so nobody was like, you get to keep your clear 133 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: just forever you're important. But I do know that this 134 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: is a practice that some people have, and also there's 135 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: a cachet to it, and it means that you're ready 136 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: to go at a moment's notice if they want to 137 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: give you some kind of a government post or bring 138 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: you in on some issue. You know, it's it's very 139 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: inside baseball to just be able to keep your clearance 140 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: because you were connected and you were high up. So 141 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: Trump has pulled those. 142 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: And now not allowing them to enter government buildings. So 143 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: that is an intriguing decision as well, and probably not 144 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: a surprise that Trump is going after the people who 145 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: he thinks rigged the twenty twenty election against him by 146 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: lying and effectively utilizing their power. And remember their defense 147 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: is not a very good defense, but their defense so 148 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: that I can provide it, so you at least can 149 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: can rebutt it if you hear it publicly, they say, oh, 150 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: we didn't say it was Russian disinformation. We said it 151 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. 152 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: That's which you're going to cut it. Yeah, that's their defense. 153 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: And then many I didn't say he beats his wife. 154 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: I said there's lots of evidence to conclude that he 155 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: beats his wife. 156 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: And then what they also took advantage of associated with 157 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: that buck is lots of media that covered their letter 158 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: eliminated even that even that language that it had all 159 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: the hallmarks of Russian disinformation, and they just said many 160 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: of the headlines that you guys remember seeing fifty one 161 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: intelligence agents hunter Biden laptop product of Russian disinformation. So 162 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: they totally skipped over the protection that they tried to 163 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: provide for themselves. And remember, really what this was about 164 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: doing was twofold. One. It allowed Joe Biden in the 165 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: debate against Donald Trump when he was asked about it, 166 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: and when Trump brought it up to say, no, no, no, 167 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: that's all a bunch of malarkey, that's Russian disinformation. There's 168 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: a big letter out about it. Two, it also gave 169 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: all of the media cover to not feel like they 170 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: needed to track the Hunter Biden laptop story because they 171 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: could say that's not real, it disinterests me. And then 172 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: Eventually they moved from that's not real too, you remember 173 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: that the next step on the train. The next step was, well, 174 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: why do we care about Hunter Biden's personal proclivities and 175 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: drug addiction? Like that's he's not the president of the 176 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: United States? Like that was the step once it became 177 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: clear it was real, it was well, why do we 178 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: care about Hunter? And I give credit to Miranda Divine 179 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: in New York Post Team, they actually didn't write about 180 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the most salacious aspects of the laptop. They focused directly 181 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: on the connection between Hunter and Joe and the money 182 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: that was received based on access to the president. 183 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: Just remember Joe Biden pardoned his whole family, his whole 184 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: immediate family on the way out of office. Remember Hunter 185 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: was before, and then there was the whole slew so 186 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: for ten years, Yeah, going all the way back to 187 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, which is yeah, it's I mean that it's 188 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: unheard of preemptively pardon them for a full decade of activity. Yeah, 189 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: And it is very fair to ask how did all 190 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: these Bidens have so much money? Exactly did they do? 191 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: They were selling access, they were selling out their country, 192 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: and that should never be forgotten when we look at 193 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: the record of Joe Biden. So the guy who was 194 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: the clearest other than if you want to talk about 195 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: like the Clinton line under oath stuff, but the clearest 196 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: criminal conduct we've seen of somebody who has been a president, 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: actual criminal conduct, not make believe stuff like they did 198 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: against Trump, is the guy who had his rival prosecuted 199 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: four times in an election year. That's a pretty remarkable record. 200 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: Joe Biden walks away with I think that the good 201 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: news for Biden Clay is that his regime ended so 202 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: ignominiously that he will quickly be someone who no one 203 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: even thinks or talks about people and within a few years, 204 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: people will be saying themselves, wait, who was president before Trump? 205 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: The second time? You know it's gonna take a moment. Oh, 206 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: that's right, it was Biden. 207 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: And it's also why twenty fourteen, if you're out there 208 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, that's when Biden recognized and believed that his 209 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: political career was over. That's when the real money shaking 210 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: of the of the Biden crime family really began. Was 211 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: when Biden suddenly gets looked over, passed over, and they're 212 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: going to give Hillary the nomination. He didn't ever think 213 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: that he would have the opportunity to run for president. 214 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: He thought he was going to be a private citizen 215 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: from that point forward, and he just decided to turn 216 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: on the money spigot, and that's when they got reckless, 217 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: and that's when the money really started to pour in. 218 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: And that's what he protected his family from. And it 219 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: was absolutely abdication of basic journalistic standards that Joe Biden's dirtiness, 220 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: which I think was dirtier than any president at any 221 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: point in any of our lives. I mean, you can 222 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: go after Nixon, but Nixon was arguably for Watergate, just 223 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: a stupid political maneuver to try to get information, not 224 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: to try to personally enrich and his family for generations 225 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: to come. 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Do 264 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: you support the onesie? And you're gonna hear it play one? 265 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: Can you tell us now that you will, now that 266 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: you are. 267 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Pro vaccine, that you're going to have your organization take 268 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: these products off the market? 269 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: Senator, I have no power over that organization, not heard 270 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: of it. 271 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: Resigned from the board. 272 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: God was just a few months ago you founded that 273 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: you certainly have power you could make that. How are 274 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: you supportive of this? 275 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: I have had nothing to do with you supportive of 276 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: these onesies? 277 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm supportive of vaccines. 278 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Are you supportive of these clothing which is normally off? 279 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: Are you? 280 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: Are you supportive of these onesies? We're talking about we're 281 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: talking about onesies for babies that say like unvaxed and 282 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: proud or something. But I just I never thought out 283 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: here to Senate hearing, are you support of these onesies? 284 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: This is also I think indicative of this staff of 285 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders not being willing to tell him this is 286 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: a bad idea. Imagine that you are about to go 287 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: in for a Senate hearing and you say, hey, guys, 288 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: I need you to blow up these onesies, and we're 289 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: going to use him as an exhibit to question RFK Junior. 290 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: If you had a real, honest, working relationship with your boss, 291 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: you might say to him, hey, I don't know that you. 292 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders screaming do you support the onesies? Is really 293 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: the way that you're going to nail down RFK Junior. 294 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: And in his confirmation like maybe this isn't a good 295 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: look for you, Senator. 296 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: I hope. I just was waiting for RFK Junior pound 297 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: the table. It's like, do you support the onesies? He's like, 298 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: your gosh, garn right, I do you know. 299 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: You need me on that wall? You want me on 300 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: that wall? Few good men style? I do wonder this 301 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: is an example buck of a clip that I saw 302 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: and I thought, this can't possibly be real. Like the 303 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: first time I saw it, I said, this has to 304 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: be AI, somebody mocking the way that the actual hearing 305 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: is going. There's no way that they printed off onesies 306 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: and put a diagram out And Bernie Sanders was screaming, 307 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: do you support the onesies? It's really little baby onesies. 308 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: It was a real thing. And Senate, but are you 309 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: like me when you see some of these clips that 310 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I see now? 311 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 2: I know I worry now more than ever about Clay 312 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 2: and I at some point are both going to get 313 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: hoaxed by some AI thing. And don't blame us, okay, 314 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: because we're shifting through. 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Welcome back in Clay, 341 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton show a lot of actions that Trump 342 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: is undertaking on a daily basis. As we finish up 343 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: week number two of his administration. It's hard to believe 344 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: it's only been two weeks given all the actions that 345 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: he's undertaken. We got fifty more weeks this year and 346 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: then sorry, left wingers, another what one hundred and fifty six. 347 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: We still have two hundred more weeks of Trump in 348 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: office before we figure out what's going to happen in 349 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. But Buck, I think actually the most 350 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: consequential thing Trump has done in the first two weeks 351 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: is an executive order ending birthright citizenship. And we talked 352 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: about this when he did it and why it was 353 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: so far reaching and potentially so consequential, and we told 354 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: you that it was going to be challenged and it 355 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: was immediately, and that it would slowly work its way 356 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: through the courts, and we think at some point likely 357 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: end up in front of the Supreme Court to see 358 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: what does the fourteenth Amendment actually mean It pertains the 359 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: birthright citizenship and kind of giving you a little bit 360 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: of a quick history lesson birthright citizenship is a legacy 361 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: of colonialism because when the United States was a colony 362 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: of England, the idea was in order to leave England 363 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: and go live in the hinterland of the New World. 364 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: You didn't necessarily want to cut your ties forever with England, 365 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: and so they said, your children will be British subjects 366 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: as well, So even though you are being born in 367 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: a different land, you will still be considered a British subject. 368 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: And every other colony basically did this as well. So 369 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: if you were coming from Portugal to Brazil, let's say, 370 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: for instance, or if you were from Spain going to Cuba, 371 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: or you were from France going out into the New 372 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Orleans area the French territories as they were called at 373 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: the time, you were still a citizen of those countries 374 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: even though you were born here. Now, obviously we had 375 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the Revolutionary War, America establishes its independence. But by and large, 376 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: even as no other country had by soil citizenship, America 377 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: and Brazil and Canada and a few other of the 378 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: New World countries maintained this policy. Now, fourteenth Amendment comes along, 379 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: and the fourteenth Amendment is passed to ensure that slaves 380 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: and the children of slaves are also American citizens because 381 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: they had previously been excluded from citizenship. And that fourteenth Amendment, 382 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: and I'm taking you through the entire of quick history 383 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: here is now what is going to be decided. What 384 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: is the meaning of subject to the jurisdiction within the 385 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: language of the fourteenth Amendment. Trump was asked about this 386 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: and gave his answer yesterday. This is Trump on birthright 387 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: citizenship cut too. 388 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: Do you believe that there are five votes of the 389 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: Supreme Court that would have pulled your position? 390 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I think so. 391 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, breadth right citizenship was if you look back 392 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 5: when this was passed and made, that was meant for 393 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: the children of slaves. This was not meant for the 394 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 5: whole world to come into Poland to the United States 395 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: of America, everybody coming in and totally unqualified people with 396 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 5: perhaps unqualified children. This wasn't meant for that. This was 397 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 5: meant when it was originally done for the children of slaves, 398 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: and that was a very good and noble thing to do. 399 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: And I'm in favor of that one hundred percent. But 400 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 5: it wasn't meant for the entire world to occupy the 401 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 5: United States. 402 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: It's actually not an awful answer here. I mean, Trump's 403 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: not a legal scholar, but he's pretty good there. Buck No. 404 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: I like the late person way he put it though, 405 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: really gets right to it, which is it was about 406 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: slaves then American obviously freed and their descendants. It was 407 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: not so that people could come here on a tourist visa, 408 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: give a baby in a birth tourism hotel, and go 409 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: back to their home country and then come back here 410 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: as an adult and sponsor their entire family and skip 411 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: the whole immigration line and become and become quote Americans 412 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: like that. That's not the way that the system is 413 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: supposed to work. That's part one. Clearly, there are scams 414 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: that are run using this and that has to be 415 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: addressed because that cannot be That was not the intent 416 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: of the fourteenth Amendment. That was not the intent of 417 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: the founders. That's not supposed to happen. Also, Clay, as 418 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: we know, there is an you know, an extra territoriality 419 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: or extra territorial component to our laws when it comes 420 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: to citizenship that is already in effect. We know, if 421 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: you're born, as we've talked about, if you're military and 422 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: you give birth to you know, your wife has a 423 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: baby in Germany, you're an American citizen. To American parents 424 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 2: US jurisdiction, you're an American citizen. Don't know, question about it. 425 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: On the on the other side of it if a 426 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: Dipple has a kid here, that you know, if a 427 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: Russian diplomat has a baby in DC, that baby is Russian. 428 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: But what's interesting is that if a low level staffer 429 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: in the embassy has a baby here, because of the 430 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: interpretation up to this point, that baby actually may be 431 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: given a pack like it's whether or not you're on 432 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: the DIP list, the diplomatic list sort of the official 433 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: list of those who have diplomatic community. But my point 434 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: here is merely it's not just you're here, so you're 435 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: you're an American. That's actually not the law, and it 436 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: actually is. 437 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: And I think again, this is why having the conversation matters, 438 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: because a lot of people just don't realize how rare 439 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: this is. Building on what you said, Buck, if you're 440 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: born in Germany, you aren't a German citizen. If you go, 441 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: if your wife is, if you're studying abroad in Germany, 442 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: or you are sent to Germany to work as an 443 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: employee of a company, international company, and you're American and 444 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: you have a fan in Germany, and you and your 445 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: wife are Americans. Your kids don't become German, and they 446 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: don't become British, and they don't become French. What we 447 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: do is actually the exception. They don't become Japanese, they 448 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: don't become Chinese. There's two types of citizenship. By blood, 449 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: which is the historic and typical way in which you 450 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: would be a citizen of a land. That is, your 451 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: dad or your mom are citizens, and by birth you 452 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: become a citizen as well. And then there's by soil. 453 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: And to what you said, Buck, in eighteen sixty eight, 454 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: when this amendment was put in place, no one who 455 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: was pregnant could decide by and large, hey I'm going 456 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: to travel to the United States to have a baby. 457 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: It took months to get to the United States basically 458 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: from anywhere around the world. And so this has never 459 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: really been examined by the Supreme Court. What will they say? 460 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: What Trump was asked was do you think five Supreme 461 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: Court justices are going to agree with your interpretation? He 462 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: said yes, I don't know. I wouldn't even claim to predict. 463 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: It is very complicated to think about. But I give 464 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: Trump credit for raising it as an issue. I would 465 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: actually ask Congress to pass a law that says birthright 466 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: citizenship doesn't exist in the United States anymore, because I 467 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: think it would go a long way towards disincentivizing people 468 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: from breaking our immigration laws and coming here. 469 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: It also demeans what it is to be a citizen 470 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: when the interpretation of law that we have is that, 471 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: like I said, again, somebody comes here, they have a 472 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: baby here, they leave, they have non US citizen parents, 473 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: they're hearing a tourist visa, they leave after let's say, 474 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: you know, a few weeks, they live in a foreign country, 475 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: their whole lives. According to what the Democrats and even 476 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: some Republicans say on this, when that person comes back 477 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: after twenty years to America, not speaking English, having lived 478 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: in a foreign country, having had all of their you know, 479 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: their connections, their patriots and everything foreign, they are as 480 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: American Clay as you, me and everybody listening to this. 481 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: As a citizen, they're exactly the same, exactly the same rights, 482 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: exactly the same benefits and duties, I might add. And 483 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: I just think that that's out I just think that's 484 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: an obvious outrage, and it demeans what it is to 485 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: be an American. And this needs to be clarified. And 486 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: this is something that we've been forced to have to 487 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: force to clarify because of one. As I said, the 488 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: changes in mass transportation, specifically air travel, means that the 489 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: whole world can come here and scam us as they 490 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: have been doing. People come across by foot and the 491 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: southern border, as we know, and they run the same 492 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: kind of a scam. And we've gotten now to the 493 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: point where you have tens of millions of people who 494 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: are in this country in violation of the laws of 495 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: this land in the first place. So of course we're 496 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: going to look at this now. You know, it wasn't 497 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: a problem before because people weren't scamming it before. I 498 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: would also add our asylum system needs to be changed entirely. 499 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: Asylum has been the little little cracked door that they 500 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: have ripped open and used to bring millions and millions 501 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: of people who are in bad faith, exploiting the goodness 502 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: of the American ideal that we're a safe harbor for 503 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: some We're not a safe harbor for the whole world. 504 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: We're safe harbor for some people who are under true duress. 505 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: We take some of them to be a good nation 506 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: because we're good people. We don't have to do this. 507 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: You got to shut this thing down, or you've got 508 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: to make it where people have to you know, it 509 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: can only be refugee, no more asylum. You got to 510 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: be a refugee who applies tom abroad. We vet you 511 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: and it's serious, and we believe it and we trust it. 512 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: I saw you on must Shared today speaking on the 513 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: asylum claim buck that eighty percent of Europeans who claim 514 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: that they had to flee their country for fear of 515 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: peril have later vacation in the country that from which 516 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: they claimed asylum, and that they did another word, skim. 517 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: If you really were in danger of being arrested or 518 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: prosecuted based on something in your home country, the last 519 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: thing you would do is when you get your asylum 520 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: granted in the European Union, to decide to go back 521 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: and visit your home country. 522 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: When we gave defectors from the Soviet Union asylum here, 523 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: they didn't go back to check out what's going on 524 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: in Moscow while the Soviet Union still existed, because it 525 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: was too dangerous, which is why we gave them asylum. Right, 526 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: that's the whole point. So this is, you know, the 527 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: third world has just pulled this on the the you know, Western, 528 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: European and American world in a way that is you know, changing, 529 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: it's like civilization shifting. Really because of the numbers that 530 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: we're talking about and the fact that people want to 531 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: pretend like this isn't a problem, it obviously is a 532 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: problem because if it's not, why do we have all 533 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: of these laws in place about why have an immigration system? 534 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: What's the point, Clay? If it's nothing but upside? Why 535 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: not just let everyone? Why not be open borders if 536 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: there's no cost, because at some level people recognize that 537 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: means you don't have a country. 538 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why My question for the people 539 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: who are most zealously advocating for illegal immigrants not to 540 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: be returned? Okay, what would be the number that you 541 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: would acknowledge is too many? They're seven billion people roughly 542 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: in the world. Why should we not take in a 543 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: billion people from a foreign country and let them live here? Like, 544 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: what is the number where you would say, no, you 545 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: know what, that's too high? Most Americans have said the 546 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: last four years of Biden, we've taken in too many people. 547 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I think the number right now buck fifteen percent of 548 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: the United States population right now was not born here. 549 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: That's a pretty ridiculously high percentage. Fifteen percent of the 550 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: people that are American citizens now were not born in 551 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the United States team in New York. You can correct 552 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: me on that if I'm wrong, but I think that's 553 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: the most recent census estimate, and I believe it is 554 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: higher now than it was in the immediate aftermath of 555 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Ellis Island. And of course, what no one talks about 556 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: during the Ellis Island era is we needed population. We 557 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: had a great, big country that we had needed farmed, 558 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: and that we wanted to be able to unleash the 559 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: economic potential of a lot of people went back because 560 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen hundred, there was no welfare check, there were 561 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: no you know, snap or EBT cards waiting for you. 562 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: There was no you know, publicly subsidized hotel rooms or 563 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: housing or culturally sensitive meals handed to you every day 564 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: and all you know. 565 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: That didn't exist. So people actually went I think something 566 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: like twenty percent of immigrants that came through Ellis Island 567 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: returned home because it was so hard here. Well, now 568 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: we have a very large welfare state and we're the 569 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: wealthiest country in the world by far. So guess what, 570 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: it's very different, very different situation. That's my people, you know, 571 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: even with the Margaret Brennan thing, which has spawned a 572 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: million funny memes. You know, oh we're we're nation of immigrants. 573 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: People were showing up here hoping they weren't going to 574 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: get scalped by Indians. Okay, that's very different than showing 575 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: up here saying where's my free food, my hotel room, 576 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: and my English is a second language classroom for my 577 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: kids who are also coming with me. That's a different thing. 578 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: So I think we can all understand and accept that. 579 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: I look forward to day when our federal government doesn't 580 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: print money to just keep on inflating away things. It's 581 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: not good, friends, and President Trump is tackling this. We 582 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: know that, but it's going to take time, and it's 583 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: imperfect at best trying to deal with this issue. 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So there you go. 622 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: We did not make sweatshirts with mine and Clay's faces 623 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: on them for you. No, it's actually like the cool 624 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: company logo of Davy Crockett. 625 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: It is not. 626 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: It is not. As much as we love our hair respectively, 627 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: you know we are not. It is not our faces 628 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: on there. Let's take Dennis in Campo, California, just outside 629 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: San Diego. What's going on Dennis Hike Claim Book. 630 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: First of all, I want to thank you for your 631 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: show that enlightens the world and for putting the information 632 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: out there it's really needed. You would be surprised. How 633 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: on knowing so many people are that need your information? Now, 634 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 3: thank you for doing that. I've got two quick things 635 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: on the birthright and on immigration. One. 636 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: I live in a small town outside San Diego, all 637 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: along the border, and I'm sure it's not just California. 638 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: There are motels, hotels that sponsor come on over the 639 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 4: week that you're due and have your baby. But it's 640 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: much bigger than that. Now those are disappearing, and friends 641 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 4: and family are offering rooms in their homes that have 642 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 4: already done this and for right the ship is here 643 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 4: and grown and has their own place, and now he's 644 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: sponsoring that. Don't need the hotel. You've got friends and 645 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: families sponsoring the same thing that's going on. Wow. 646 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: Interesting. 647 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: So it's like a systematic abuse of the system to 648 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: create new citizens based upon this faulty interpretation of the 649 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment. 650 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: Also, the other aspect of it is it makes it 651 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: very unlikely that you are going to get kicked out 652 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: of the country as well because you are the mother 653 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: or the father of an American citizen, which gives you 654 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: an opportunity to argue you should be able to stay 655 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: here and raise them. It's a massive incentive that needs 656 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: to be taken away.