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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: day M paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The

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Speaker 1: Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast at, employees

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Speaker 1: encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending

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Speaker 1: on the subject matter and your needs. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 1: For almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey

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Speaker 1: to prove the existence of life after death. On each

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Speaker 1: episode will discuss the reasons we now know that our

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Speaker 1: loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I'd like to share

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Speaker 1: with you to day a great conversation I had with

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Speaker 1: Nancy Rhines and we're calling this the Atheist who Went

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Speaker 1: to Heaven. Nancy is an author, scientist, and an artist,

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Speaker 1: and she had a very transformative near death experience back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. She's the author now of the

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Speaker 1: book called Awakenings from the Light Twelve Life Lessons from

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Speaker 1: a Near Death Experience, and you can see her website

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Speaker 1: at Nancy Rhines dot com. So hi, Nancy, So great

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Speaker 1: to have you here. Thank you so much for having

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Speaker 1: me on, Sandra, I really appreciate it. It's so exciting

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. Finding to talk to you too.

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Speaker 1: I spent lots of time on your website and I

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Speaker 1: was reading your book. I thought, oh, you're wonderful because

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Speaker 1: like you and nice talk just a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: before we recorded started recording, and you just said, you're

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Speaker 1: just a normal person. Yeah. I mean, I was raised

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Speaker 1: then I went to college like pretty much everybody else does,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, I was raised in a in

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Speaker 1: on all that and first became an agnostic and then

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Speaker 1: I think as we go into our twenties. An agnostic

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I was not sure. Sometimes I was like Dad, no,

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Speaker 1: nothing happens, No, nothing exists. So, you know, for most

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Speaker 1: with um kind of some agnostic leanings there in my

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Speaker 1: there wasn't anything really spectacular in any way about my life.

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Speaker 1: I had a fine life. It was absolutely fine. I

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Speaker 1: the time I was in my I would say mid forties,

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Speaker 1: so just a few years ago, I was feeling just

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Speaker 1: of death. What was your job at the time you

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Speaker 1: That's exactly how I got my start to you know.

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Speaker 1: a lot about love in the book because it really,

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Speaker 1: for me was the main message for my time there.

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Speaker 1: Other people might go and get a different message, but

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Speaker 1: for me, it was really about how can we increase

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Speaker 1: love and why that's important because when you increase love

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Speaker 1: in your life, or when you live in a more

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Speaker 1: it really strength in the field of love around you.

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Speaker 1: It really affects the energy of divine love around you

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Speaker 1: in a very positive way. We'll be back with scientist

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Speaker 1: Now let's get back to Shades of the Afterlife with

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Speaker 1: Sandra Champaigne. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sanders Champlaine and we're with Nancy Rynes. Nancy your guide

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Speaker 1: in the afterlife. She taught the importance of showing love

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Speaker 1: and being compassionate. What else did she share with you?

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Speaker 1: The main thing that she talked about initially was gratitude

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Speaker 1: and how gratitude really is just another form of love.

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Speaker 1: When we're grateful not only for the people in our

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Speaker 1: lives or when we're grateful to someone in our life

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Speaker 1: here on earth, but I'm also talking about being grateful

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Speaker 1: to the divine or to spirit, that also strengthens the

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Speaker 1: field of love around us because it's just another form

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Speaker 1: of love. So anytime you can practice gratitude, and that's

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Speaker 1: why for me, gratitude has become a very important practice.

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Speaker 1: It's humbling, but it's also an easy way for me

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Speaker 1: to be loving. How do you practice gratitude or remember

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, you know, at first it's tough. You know.

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Speaker 1: I started out by just every evening before I went

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Speaker 1: to bed, I had this little routine that I still do,

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Speaker 1: and I think about three to five things or people

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Speaker 1: that I was grateful for during my day. Good. Nice.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of the starting thing. Then that moved

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Speaker 1: on to every time I would go on a walk,

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Speaker 1: I would look for evidence of love around me, and

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Speaker 1: then I would be grateful during my walk for every

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Speaker 1: piece of evidence of love that I found. And then

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Speaker 1: gratitude became kind of an in the moment practice, So

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Speaker 1: I snuck up on it gradually. I just started, you know,

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Speaker 1: setting aside time at night, and then I started doing

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Speaker 1: it while I was on my walks, and then those

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Speaker 1: times during my walks became moments throughout the day. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard people will say they set a timer

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Speaker 1: or they look at the clock every hour, and every

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Speaker 1: hour they think of two or three things to be

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Speaker 1: grateful for. Wow, great way to live life. Over time,

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Speaker 1: it becomes less of a practice and more just natural. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's where it kind of where I am now with it.

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Speaker 1: And I also I don't just say the words. I

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Speaker 1: work on feeling the feeling of gratitude in my body,

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Speaker 1: in my soul. So it all comes back together. Um,

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Speaker 1: some of the other things that she wanted me to

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Speaker 1: are truly all connected, and not just from the scientific perspective,

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Speaker 1: like you know we're dependent on clean water to drink

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Speaker 1: or you know, food to eat, or the air to breathe.

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Speaker 1: It's more than that, we truly are all connected on

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Speaker 1: that divine love level, the divine spiritual level. And again

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Speaker 1: in the kind of the science of quantum physics. Now, well,

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Speaker 1: this isn't actually anything new. There's an idea of called

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Speaker 1: like photons, little tiny particles or little bits of energy

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Speaker 1: are they could be connected across the universe. And when

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Speaker 1: something happens to one, let's say here on Earth, if

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Speaker 1: that particle here on Earth is entangled with the particle

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Speaker 1: ten billion miles away, that particle ten billion miles away

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Speaker 1: will react in the same way. I've heard of that

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Speaker 1: and that's greaky and awesome. Well, there's an explanation for it.

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Speaker 1: It's that's those spiritual fields, and that's part of how

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Speaker 1: this all works. We are all connected to each other,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, Jesus talked about this to some extent,

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Speaker 1: and many other spiritual teachers have if I do something

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Speaker 1: to you really being done to me. Yeah, we are

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Speaker 1: all truly related. We're all brothers and sisters. And not

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Speaker 1: just humans either. It's the animals, it's the plants, it's

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Speaker 1: the planets, it's the whole cosmos. You know, it's not

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Speaker 1: human centric. So it's what else did you learn? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I just know the name of your book is Awakenings

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Speaker 1: from the Light Twelve life Lessons from a Near Death experience.

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Speaker 1: Not that you have to hit all twelve, but the

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Speaker 1: empowerment of conversation today. You know. Another one that so

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Speaker 1: many near death experiencers will talk about is the importance

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Speaker 1: of living. I call it living fully or living authentically.

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Speaker 1: And what that means is really embracing the you that

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Speaker 1: you are. That doesn't mean that you can't improve or

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Speaker 1: you can't change, but it means learning how to come

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Speaker 1: to self acceptance and self love and then just allowing

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Speaker 1: yourself to be the glorious person you are. If you

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Speaker 1: look on my website, I have a lot of little

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Speaker 1: inspirational messages with pictures behind them, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: them have to do with living the divine you that

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Speaker 1: you are inside, because basically, you are given a set

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Speaker 1: of skills and talents and passions and likes and dislikes

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Speaker 1: for a reason, and you're being asked, or we're we're

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Speaker 1: all being asked to examine what those are and just

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Speaker 1: go out and do the best we can with living them.

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Speaker 1: Because when we do that, it's like we're singing a

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Speaker 1: huge song of gratitude back to the divine for this

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Speaker 1: life that we have for every all of us. Imagine

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Speaker 1: a life where you accept yourself fully for who you

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Speaker 1: are and who you're not, and you just love you

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Speaker 1: and just know that you are one of a kind

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Speaker 1: and you came into this world to learn what you learned,

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Speaker 1: and to just embrace that to it, Yeah, to to

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Speaker 1: embrace the divinity that you are. I mean, you're one

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Speaker 1: of a kind, you know, we all are. But to

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Speaker 1: embrace that, it lived from that as opposed to the

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Speaker 1: feelings though I should be this, I should be that

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Speaker 1: I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I'm not

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Speaker 1: thin enough, you know, all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and when you put those shoots or I'm not enough

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Speaker 1: on there. It really you put yourself in a box,

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Speaker 1: and it's really just a box that you put yourself in. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you don't need to put yourself in that box.

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Speaker 1: You can you can walk outside of that box. You

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Speaker 1: can jump out of it and start screaming for joy

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Speaker 1: once you finally make your way out of that self

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Speaker 1: imposed box. Look, you know, it's I don't wish it

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Speaker 1: near death experience on anybody because they're very traumatic for

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Speaker 1: your whole life. It's not something to be take and lightly.

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Speaker 1: But it did give me a lot of compassion for myself.

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Speaker 1: And I talk about some ways that you know, you

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Speaker 1: can begin to accept yourself. I don't recommend that people

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Speaker 1: go out and try to, you know, go all gung

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Speaker 1: ho with loving themselves right away. Start taking baby steps

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Speaker 1: to even just self acceptance or compassion or kindness to yourself.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I teach people is, you know,

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Speaker 1: take a break and go to the mirror, looking your

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Speaker 1: own eyes and just try to imagine that divine spark there.

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Speaker 1: And then once you can start imagining it, start telling yourself,

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Speaker 1: I love you. You're an amazing gift, You're part of

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Speaker 1: the divine and keep going with that. I had a

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Speaker 1: friend do this, actually, Amy, the woman who edited my book.

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Speaker 1: She'd been a friend of mine for a while, and

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Speaker 1: she went to the mirror. She's a very spiritual person,

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Speaker 1: so I'm surprised she even tried any of my exercises,

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Speaker 1: but she went to the mirror and she did that.

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Speaker 1: She said, you know, I just bawled. I cried my

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Speaker 1: eyes out when I first did that exercise, and she said,

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Speaker 1: I've been a spiritual person for years and still cried

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Speaker 1: when I admitted to myself that I am a divine being,

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Speaker 1: that I have a divine spark inside of me. So

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Speaker 1: it can be very powerful, and it could be hard

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Speaker 1: to if it If it gets too hard, I encourage

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Speaker 1: people just to stop and try again later. But it's

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Speaker 1: a start. And then, you know, a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: who come to my workshops will say, you know, I

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Speaker 1: was really abused as a kid, and I just can't

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Speaker 1: imagine even liking myself. So if you're facing that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are really encourage you

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Speaker 1: to get some psychotherapy. And I know that sounds crazy

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Speaker 1: and I'm not a psychotherapist, but it can really help

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Speaker 1: very quickly to get over that hump of self hatred

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Speaker 1: that we might learn from a caregiver who was to

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Speaker 1: us so and I know I came from a background

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Speaker 1: similar to that, so I understand without struggles like so.

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Speaker 1: And I did get I did go get some about

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Speaker 1: I think it was five months of help with that

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Speaker 1: as an adult, and it really helped. There's some saying, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: that the worst place to be on your own is

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Speaker 1: like in your own heading to your own thoughts. Screwed

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Speaker 1: up that statement, but it's a tough head we live in.

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Speaker 1: And just by hearing reading a book, hearing somebody else's story,

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Speaker 1: going for some therapy, whatever that is, and to feel

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Speaker 1: you're not alone, you're not the first person in these shoes,

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Speaker 1: and to have somebody who cares for you to help

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Speaker 1: you over, you know, that's awesome, and the help is

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Speaker 1: out there, and in fact, you know, if you're struggling

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Speaker 1: with that and you really do want to go see

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Speaker 1: a professional psychotherapist but you're afraid of the money, there

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Speaker 1: are many that will work with you for free or

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Speaker 1: a reduced ust if you're truly in need. And at

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Speaker 1: the time that I got my psychotherapy, I actually was

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Speaker 1: truly in financial need, and this woman was an angel

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Speaker 1: and gave me six months of psychotherapy for free, basically

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Speaker 1: another angel, and just yeah, they're out there. They're out there.

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Speaker 1: All you need to do is ask. And if one

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Speaker 1: person says, you know, I don't offer free services, but

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Speaker 1: I know someone who does, you know, follow those leads

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Speaker 1: because there probably is some help out there. Where do

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Speaker 1: we go next? Is there any more of the life

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Speaker 1: lessons you want to share or we want to share

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Speaker 1: when you woke up or let me just ask you something.

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Speaker 1: Did this experience feel real? Oh? Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 1: you're clear, like I know in my heart it is,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to hear you say it that

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Speaker 1: it's was more real than any dream or anything. That

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Speaker 1: the minute that I kind of woke up on that

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Speaker 1: hillside in heaven, I knew that that was more real

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Speaker 1: than anything time I've ever spent here on earth. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: that real. Yeah, And I knew instantly that my time

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Speaker 1: here was really but a dream. And that's how this felt.

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Speaker 1: This felt like a very It was kind of a dream. Really,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right word, but in heaven,

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651
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Speaker 1: your favorite shows. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sanders Champlain. You can find out more about Nancy

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Speaker 1: at her website, which is spelled Nancy rhymes are Y

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Speaker 1: n e s dot com and her book Awakenings from

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Speaker 1: the Light Twelve life lessons from a near death experience. Nancy,

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00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: I have to ask there was no pain, I'm sure

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00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: in the afterlife. What was it like waking up in

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00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: the recovery room. When I woke up in the recovery room,

722
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: I was screaming and crying. But before I came back

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Speaker 1: to my body, the woman who was with me, whose

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00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: name now I know, is Mary, or that's what she

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00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: says I can call her, but she said it's just

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00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: a name. Um. Mary gave me a spiritual healing so

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00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: that when I came back I wouldn't feel as much pain.

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00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: And when I came back into my body sure enough.

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00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had pain from the surgery site in

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Speaker 1: my lower back where they bolted titanium rods into my back,

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Speaker 1: but my shoulder, my collar bone didn't hurt, and my

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Speaker 1: ribs never hurt, which is really crazy because if you've

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Speaker 1: ever broken a rib, those things hurt like crazy. Um

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00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: my pelvis never hurt, and my sternum never hurt. And

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00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: those were the areas that she worked on before she

736
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: sent me back, so I had really no pain in

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Speaker 1: those areas. I did have to deal with pain in

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Speaker 1: my lower back, but it wasn't it wasn't really all

739
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: that bad. And the doctors were astounded at my recovery.

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00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: It was so fast and so painfrey. I was off

741
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: the opiates within two days after surgery, kidding, yeah, And

742
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: I was not just Thailand all. Yeah, something happened for sure,

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00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: because the doctors twenty four bones as what you said, Yeah, yeah,

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00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: the doctors were astounded. In fact, one of them he said,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be up walking just on Thailand all. There's

746
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: no way that you should be up walking on Thailand all.

747
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: And I got up out of bed and I'm like,

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00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm walking see and so he couldn't believe it. I

749
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: hadn't told him what had happened during surgery. Oh no, well, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you just because time's going by quick.

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Speaker 1: In the email you sent me, he said something about

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: the spiritual communications you've had since your near death experience. Yeah,

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00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: so it never really I never really shut it off

754
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: because I missed it so much. I did for maybe

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00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: two or three weeks after I came back, but I

756
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: missed it so much that I wanted it to continue,

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00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, it continued, and it could be

758
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: continued in a very odd way. I would have visions

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00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: of my guide while I was in the hospital. I

760
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: would just be laying there kind of in a bliss out,

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00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: gratitude like state, and she'd come in and we'd start

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00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: talking again. And I didn't think too much of it, really.

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00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: I just figured, well, this is just a part of

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Speaker 1: the experience, and that's really continued, and I've worked on

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00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: it since. I've learned how to increase that on my own,

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00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: how to increase my capability um to be available for

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00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: that communication so it can happen whenever I choose is now,

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00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: and then it also comes through sometimes when I don't choose,

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00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: like when I need to hear a specific message from

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Speaker 1: one of my many spiritual guides or the divine or

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00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: one of the angelic beings. They have no qualms now

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00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: about sending me a message or telling me something. Can

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00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: you just hear them in your mind? How does it

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00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: show up for you? Well, for me, it's oftentimes unknowing.

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00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: But in the usually every evening I spend It sounds

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00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: crazy to a lot of people I know, but I

777
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: usually spend about an hour in a prayer like state,

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00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: asking or being receptive to this communication. And typically one

779
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: or more of these beings will show up in my

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00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: room or wherever I happen to be and just start talking.

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00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: And then I write it down as fast as I can,

782
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: and sometimes the information that comes through is just astounding.

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00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I was chosen was because

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00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: I was a scientist and I was an atheist, and

785
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: I can write about it in a way that other

786
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: people can understand. Yes, that's important, really important. Another thing

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00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: is that they meaning the spiritual beings you know, on

788
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: the other side, whatever you want to call it, they're

789
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: really concerned that in another sixty two hundred years we're

790
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: going to be in deep doo doo. They have this

791
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: vision of the human race as being through all this

792
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: garbage already, so the fighting, the violence, you know, all

793
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: this nastiness that we're going through. They have a vision

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00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: for us being through it. They are recruiting people like

795
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: me to be a source of this message of law,

796
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: of compassion, kindness, and little by little they hope to

797
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: influence the world to a better way of being. We

798
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: don't have to live like this. This is ourtual ways

799
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: as a species. They want the species of humans to evolve,

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00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: and they want all of us spiritually to evolve together

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00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: with the planet. In our culture. They're kind of rooting

802
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: for us and they want to give as much help

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00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: as possible. And it's all about love. It's really truly

804
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: all about God or the divine whatever you want to

805
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: call that presence in your life. And it's about loving

806
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: each other. It's about giving into that love. It's about

807
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: allowing God to work in your life. Haters will contact

808
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: me and say, well, you're getting off scot free. I'm like, no,

809
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: my life review you is no picnic. And I was

810
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: not given off getting off scot free. I was sent

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00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: back here to love to love like God loves to love,

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00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: like Jesus loved, or the Buddha loved or St. Francis.

813
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: And that's it's not getting off scot free. So you

814
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: did have a life review. Oh yeah, it was um

815
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: pretty astounding. It wasn't bad, it wasn't scary, but it

816
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: was certainly eye opening example what you mean. Sure, So basically,

817
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: I was brought to this pond and was shown images

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00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: of all the people that I had impacted in my life,

819
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: both good and bad, or positive and negative, however you

820
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: want to look at it. And I was allowed to

821
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: touch the pond and realized that my action, like touching

822
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: the pond, would would affect all those people whose images

823
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: were kind of superimposed on the pond. So it was

824
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: a very strong visual of your actions affect more than

825
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: just you. Your actions travel outward from you, as ripples

826
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: on a pond travel outward from that source. But then

827
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: I was shown both good and bad from some of

828
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: the things that I had done in my life, positive

829
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: and negative, and we all have both. It's not like

830
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm a horrendous being or anything. It was just that

831
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: I had made some poor choices in my younger years,

832
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: and I got to see the impact of those choices

833
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: on other people from their perspectives, so not from my perspective,

834
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: but I got to see inside of their minds and

835
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: hearts as to how I impacted them, either positively or negatively.

836
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: And holy cow, what an eye opener. I became instantly

837
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: more aware of my actions in every moment that I'm

838
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: here on earth. Their life for you isn't meant to

839
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: be this horrible, terrifying, frightening experience. It's a growth opportunity,

840
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: and for me, it was an opportunity to learn how

841
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: my actions impacted others so that when I came back,

842
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I could be more conscious of what I was doing

843
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: and saying. So it was beautiful, but it's sometimes difficult

844
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: to see how you negatively impact other people from within

845
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: their own minds and hearts. That I would leave that

846
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: their piece of advice for all of us that we

847
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: could maybe start doing right now, I don't know. I

848
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: love the idea, like how you go in at night

849
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: for an hour and receive messages. It's like, oh, I

850
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: would love that, so there for you. Yeah, you can,

851
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: you can certainly do that. I would if I were

852
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: to say something about that for people open yourself up

853
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: to guidance from spirit and just be open to it.

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: But also realized that the whole point of this is

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Speaker 1: earth right now? Great words, I find myself. I can

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Speaker 1: talking about that is so I can have a better

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Speaker 1: better choices and and all that accouna yeah, and have

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Speaker 1: fun too. It's not all about being pious and spiritual

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Speaker 1: who you are in the moment. And also, you know,

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Speaker 1: teaching your kids good things and good habits and being

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Speaker 1: a source of love. So it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: all you know, you don't have to be a mont

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Speaker 1: in a monastery somewhere to be spiritual. You can be

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Speaker 1: you know, looking for shells or something. Right, So Nancy,

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Speaker 1: how do we get in touch with you? And maybe

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Speaker 1: you could mention because um I saw Obviously you have

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Speaker 1: your book Awakenings from the Light. But you offer coaching too,

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Speaker 1: don't you. I do offer some spiritual coaching if you

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Speaker 1: want to learn how to do some of the spiritual communication.

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Speaker 1: I can work with people one on one, but I

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Speaker 1: do coach people on how to get in touch with

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Speaker 1: your guides and your angels and whoever else you would like.

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Speaker 1: I also teach contemplative prayer, which is a meditative practice

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Speaker 1: that I personally used to get in touch with my

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Speaker 1: spiritual guidance system. So it's not meditation, it's it's slightly different.

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Speaker 1: It's a technique that was developed actually in the very

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Speaker 1: but it was adopted from India, so it's typically done.

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Speaker 1: It's been done in India for probably five thousand years.

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Speaker 1: But what it is is you take a word, let's

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Speaker 1: you repeat that to yourself internally and allow your mind

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Speaker 1: I got you. And it's a good folk point because

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Speaker 1: it's not just a word to focus on. You start

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Speaker 1: It raises your vibrational level, so it makes it easier

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Speaker 1: Contemplating the word love, you're bound to feel it. It's powerful.

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Speaker 1: It's real powerful, real powerful. Oh, Nancy, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being here today. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me on, and to our listeners, thanks for being here.

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Speaker 1: You can check out a whole bunch of great things

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Speaker 1: that we Don't Die dot com or on I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio type in Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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