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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hello

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Speaker 1: sweet friends. Today we are definitely going to get smarter

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Speaker 1: about what our bodies need and maybe how to treat

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Speaker 1: them a little nicer. I'm a fan of that. Today's

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Speaker 1: guest is none other than Roddy dev Luca. She is

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Speaker 1: a plant based cook, a mission driven entrepreneur, and the

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Speaker 1: co founder of the adaptogenic tea brand Juni. With her

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Speaker 1: background as a dietician and nutritionist and her studies in Araveda,

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Speaker 1: Roddy shares everything from her recipes, health tips, wellness videos,

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Speaker 1: natural skincare and beauty and how to live a conscious lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough to know Roddy through her wonderful husband,

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Speaker 1: Jay Shetty, and since the day that I met her,

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Speaker 1: when I first did his podcast, I have just adored her.

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Speaker 1: She is the kind of person whose passion is infectious.

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Speaker 1: She's the kind of person who when you see her

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Speaker 1: in a room, you run to her for a hug.

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Speaker 1: She is just a gatherer and a connector, and I

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Speaker 1: love everything about her energy and I love the way

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Speaker 1: that she shares her wisdom with people. She is so

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Speaker 1: passionate about building a health and wellness community that encourages

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Speaker 1: people to understand themselves, not to live up to some crazy,

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Speaker 1: unattainable standard, but to really go inward to understand themselves,

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Speaker 1: as I said, their environment, everything they put on or

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Speaker 1: in their body, and more. She's been featured everywhere from

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Speaker 1: Women's Health to Forbes, to The Today Show, Access Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: and so many more, and her book Joyful is available

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Speaker 1: for purchase now. It is an abundant and inviting book

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Speaker 1: that has more than one hundred and twenty five plant

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Speaker 1: based recipes and really teaches readers about being kind to themselves.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive in and figure out how the inspiring woman

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Speaker 1: learned how to do what she does. Roddy, I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy to have you on the podcast. In the years

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Speaker 1: that we've known each other and been at things together,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm always so happy when I see you

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Speaker 1: walk into a room. You're such a.

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Speaker 2: Light you O you sweet soul.

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Speaker 1: You're just like you really are one of the sweetest people.

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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm so into what you do and the

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Speaker 1: impact you make in the world. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask her every question on the show.

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Speaker 2: I have to sit down like this.

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Speaker 1: I know this is fine, Okay, so before we get

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Speaker 1: into life as it is now, I actually really like

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Speaker 1: people follow you and they know your work, and they

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Speaker 1: know you have a book coming out, and you know

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Speaker 1: everything up to now. But I'm always curious when I

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Speaker 1: sit down with someone who's you know, carved out this

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Speaker 1: when you look back at your life and you look at,

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Speaker 1: you know, the little Roddy who is ten, let's say,

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Speaker 1: do you see in her pieces of the woman that

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Speaker 2: That's such a good question, you know.

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Speaker 3: Every time I get asked about my childhood, it's such

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Speaker 3: a weird thing. But I feel like I only know

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Speaker 2: And I probably sound packed that, but I really don't remember.

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Speaker 3: But I remember being a really happy child, like I

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Speaker 3: then I got really shy. But when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the way society can kind of press in around

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Speaker 3: My I think being from an Indian background, I had

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Speaker 3: we were just used to having incredible food, and so

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Speaker 1: That's so beautiful, And it strikes me as such a

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Speaker 1: So when you sit today and everything in your world

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Speaker 3: Breathwork and essential oils to like really to not have

442
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Speaker 3: to use my inhaler. And again, I just want to

443
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Speaker 3: say that it's on an individual thing that just worked

444
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Speaker 3: for me.

445
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Speaker 2: But every time I get reasy, even like.

446
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Speaker 3: Learning how we can use our breath to expand our

447
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Speaker 3: lungs and our airways.

448
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Speaker 2: It's so powerful. So I just want to share that

449
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Speaker 2: with you.

450
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Speaker 3: And then how did I come to write this book?

451
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Speaker 3: Honestly I never felt ready. I never even thought I

452
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Speaker 3: would write a book. Really, I'm start getting approached to

453
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Speaker 3: write books from different publishers, and I thought, you know,

454
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: I at that time, I always said I.

455
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Speaker 2: Never just want to write a cookbook. I love cookbooks.

456
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Speaker 3: But I felt like what I had learned through cooking

457
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Speaker 3: and the practices and the wellness rituals and the parts

458
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Speaker 3: of cooking beyond the food, like the consciousness that goes

459
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: on behind the scenes is such a vital part of

460
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Speaker 3: how we even interact with food that just doing recipes

461
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Speaker 3: didn't feel like.

462
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Speaker 2: I was doing what I learned justice.

463
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Speaker 3: And so whenever I was speaking to people, I was like,

464
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Speaker 3: I don't I could write a cookbook but I also

465
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Speaker 3: want to write something that's got a lot of other

466
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Speaker 3: things weaved into it. And so I went out to

467
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Speaker 3: write a proposal, and so my you know, agents, were

468
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Speaker 3: speaking to publishers to find someone to help me write

469
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Speaker 3: a proposal.

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Speaker 1: And.

471
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Speaker 3: Anyway, it turned out that instead of instead of them

472
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Speaker 3: saying that they'll help me write the proposal, my publishers

473
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Speaker 3: were like, no, we want to write the book. We

474
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Speaker 3: want to be part of the book. And so I

475
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: didn't even up writing a proposal or know what was

476
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Speaker 3: going to be in the book before I ended up

477
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Speaker 3: saying yes to writing it. And then I obviously knew

478
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Speaker 3: that I was going to be plant based recipes because

479
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Speaker 3: I've been plant based for over ten years now and

480
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: I was born vegetarian, so that was always going to

481
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Speaker 3: be what the recipes were about. But the next day

482
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Speaker 3: after I signed my contract, I was it sounds a

483
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Speaker 3: bit cliche, but I was sitting in my meditation and

484
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Speaker 3: I was really trying to think about what is it

485
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: that I want this book to give to people, and

486
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Speaker 3: what is it that I've always wanted through everything that

487
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Speaker 3: I do, for people to feel.

488
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Speaker 2: And honestly, the person that came to.

489
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Speaker 3: Mind was Joy and I was like, I think that

490
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Speaker 3: I have ever wanted to do, even if it's in

491
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Speaker 3: people's lives that you know that I my personal friends

492
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Speaker 3: and family.

493
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Speaker 2: My goal has always been to bring.

494
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Speaker 3: People some sort of joy in their life through food,

495
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: through entertainment, through being funny and goofy, like whatever it is,

496
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: it's always in that. And so after I came up

497
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Speaker 3: with the name, which came before anything else, I was like,

498
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Speaker 3: now I know what I can talk about.

499
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: Like, everything has that threat.

500
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Speaker 3: So whether it's the recipes or the rituals that I've

501
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: included in that everything, of all the things in my

502
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: life that have brought me so much more joy and

503
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: helped me maintain joy in my life, that it all

504
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: just slowly came together. So three years later, the book's out,

505
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: by the way, because it took me for years, and

506
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: I created one hundred and ninety recipes, which I had

507
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Speaker 3: to cut down to one hundred and twenty five, which

508
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: was a very sore process to try.

509
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's okay, they can go in the second book.

510
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, That's where I want to keep saying, and

511
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Speaker 3: I feel really happy about it. It was also a

512
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Speaker 3: big thing for me to complete something like Honestly, I'm

513
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: someone who will be really excited about starting something and

514
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: I'll be like all in and then suddenly I'll like

515
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: completely forget about it or I.

516
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be able to complete it.

517
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: And so this was almost you know, it was something

518
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: I did for myself also where I wasn't even thinking

519
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: about the results of Once it came out, it was like, Wow,

520
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 3: I actually completed something. So for me, it was like

521
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: a sense of confidence in myself that I can actually create,

522
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: go through the process and actually something.

523
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, there was a lot.

524
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Speaker 3: Of reasons behind doing it, but I'm so happy that

525
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: it's here and that i can share it with as

526
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Speaker 3: many people as want to read it.

527
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Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. So when you talk about the

528
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Speaker 1: experience behind cooking, you know, the deeper sort of relationship

529
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Speaker 1: we have to our food to the way that it

530
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Speaker 1: enables us to take care of ourselves. How how do

531
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Speaker 1: you write about that? How is it different than just

532
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: a cookbook? You know, what will listeners when they order

533
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: this book after hearing this conversation, Like, what will their

534
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: journey be going through it with you?

535
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the book starts, it goes through the cycle

536
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Speaker 3: of the day, and so it.

537
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: Goes through from thing to evening, and it.

538
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: Follows the rhythm of nature in terms of well linked

539
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: to ironvada. So whether it's the recipes which go from

540
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: being a lighter to the largest meals in the afternoon,

541
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: because our digestion is the strongest when the sun is

542
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: at its highest, that's what our digestifiers are the strongest.

543
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: And so you have the bulkier, heavier, more dense recipes

544
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: in the middle, and then it tails off to having

545
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: the lighter meals, the soups, the.

546
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: Lighter bites that you can have in the evening. And

547
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: so along with that, I've.

548
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: Done morning rituals, evening rituals, afternoon rituals, breath works that

549
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: help you help help the carry you through your day.

550
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: So I'd use breathwork to really help navigate my emotions

551
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: throughout the day.

552
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: I can get quite nervous and anxious, and.

553
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: So whether it's a breath work in the morning to

554
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: relieve your anxiety, to a breathwork to energize you midday,

555
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 3: or a breathwork to relax and calm you in the evening,

556
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: I've gone through those breathworks in there. There's also conscious

557
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: eating and mindful cooking. In the practice from picking what

558
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: vegetables you're going to have to being more intuitive with your.

559
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Body to understand not what is this person.

560
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: Telling me what to eat or what recipes did this

561
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: person post online? Or you know, this person saying this

562
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: meal change their whole body and their whole life. No,

563
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: what does my body need? And how do I tune

564
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: into that? How do I understand that when I'm eating something,

565
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: I don't just have to think about how it's making

566
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: me feel in the moment, but how is my digestion after?

567
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: Is it making me feel sluggish? Is it making me

568
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: feel energized, How is it affecting my skin?

569
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: How is it affecting my body? And so really tuning

570
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Speaker 2: back into our body.

571
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: We've you know, completely give away the power of our

572
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: health to other people, when actually there's so much that

573
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: we can harness in ourselves just by taking a moment

574
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: to observe and identify things within ourselves.

575
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: And so I talk about that, and then also.

576
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: The practice of when you're cooking, it's not just about

577
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: throwing things in a dish, which sometimes we have to

578
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: because of time, But how can I put intention and

579
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: deep prayer and create food which just doesn't nourish my body,

580
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: but that I can pour prayer and love and care

581
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: into the food to be able to nourish me deeper

582
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: than just my physical body. And you know, people sometimes say, oh,

583
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: that's so woo woo, and I'm like, no, because when

584
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: you eat food from someone that loves you, you feel it.

585
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: Like when I eat food.

586
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: My mom or my grandma make me, I will copy

587
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: the recipe exactly and it will never turn out the

588
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: same because there is something about the energy that we

589
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: pour into the food that we're creating, and so I

590
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: cook about that, and then there's prayers and meditations you

591
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: can do just before taking the food in because the

592
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: gratitude is such an important.

593
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Part to our digestion.

594
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: To actually eat in a relaxed state, and with deep

595
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: gratitude changes the way the food even absorbs and assimilates

596
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: into our body. And so, you know, consciousness to me

597
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: is about how can I be more present in every moment,

598
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: includ being the moments that I'm eating, drinking, living, and

599
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: being around other people and so essentially just everything that

600
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Speaker 3: I know.

601
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Speaker 2: About that into.

602
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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. And now a word from our sponsors who

603
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Speaker 1: make this show possible. You know, when you talk about

604
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Speaker 1: how the energy that we cook with and eat with

605
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: can actually change how we feel in our bodies, how

606
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Speaker 1: we absorb food. Is it true that to your point,

607
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: like gratitude changes absorption, does that actually lead to having

608
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Speaker 1: better gut health? What are some of those sort of

609
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: cool facts in that regard that you can share with.

610
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Speaker 3: Us you need if you think about it. And let's

611
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Speaker 3: say a lot of people when they come when I

612
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: used to have gut clinics or when I used to

613
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Speaker 3: see people for IBS problems, one of the main things

614
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: that you're asking them is where do you have stress

615
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: in your life right now?

616
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: Like where is the stress? Like where where are you

617
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: stressed out?

618
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Speaker 3: And are you noticing any patterns between where you're stressed

619
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Speaker 3: and how your gut is? Like I remember even simple

620
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Speaker 3: things that when I used to go into exams and

621
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: I used to be so nervous, my thought would start

622
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: playing up straight away.

623
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Speaker 2: And so there's.

624
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: Such a there's been so many studies to show the

625
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: link between anxiety and our gut and that's that's that's

626
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: been proven. But then if we if we reverse that

627
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 3: and thing, well, what's the opposite of feeling anxious? They

628
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: say that when you're in a you know, grateful mindset,

629
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Speaker 3: you can't be anywhere else, like you will be present

630
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: in the moment and you'll be absorbed in what.

631
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: You're doing at the time.

632
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: And so even having those moments of gratitude kind of

633
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: pushes away, even for those moments, the anxieties that we're feeling,

634
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: the feeling we're feeling, all the other things that are,

635
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: you know, going through our mind. When you are able

636
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: to give something full focus, like our digestion, you kind

637
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: of have to remind your body what's happening in the moment.

638
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: And so when you are eating your food, looking at

639
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: it like it says that when you first see food,

640
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: that is the time that your digested burst starts, Like

641
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: you start salvating the enzymes on your tongue, they start

642
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: to become a life because you've started signaling to your

643
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: body that food is coming. Your digestive juices start flowing.

644
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: And so if we distracted and we're all over the place,

645
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: only doesn't even get the signals it needs to start

646
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: thinking about digesting. We literally are looking around doing everything else,

647
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: shoving things in our mouth, and then suddenly maybe ten fifteen,

648
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: twenty whenutes, maybe even hour later, our body's like, oh,

649
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: you've just eaten, okay, now let me start producing those

650
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: digestive juices. Getting our body prepared like you would go

651
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: for a run and you put your shoes on and

652
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: you put your coat on, and.

653
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: In the same way, we have to prepare my body

654
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: for what's coming.

655
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Speaker 3: Because usually we're shoving it down and am ready for it.

656
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: So is this why people say that it's so important

657
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: to sit down when you eat instead of stand.

658
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, definitely.

659
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: And also gravity, Like if you think about it, everything

660
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: travels so much faster.

661
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: When you're standing.

662
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Speaker 3: Even if you're water water will just flow through you

663
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Speaker 3: if you are not sitting and sipping on it slowly.

664
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Speaker 3: And that's why you'll notice that if you stand and

665
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: gulp a lot of water down, you'll need to go

666
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: to the bathroom way faster than if you're sitting and

667
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: sipping it. And so yeah, some of it is you know,

668
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: scientific and factual, and there are studies behind it, and

669
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: other parts of just noticing your body and really yeah,

670
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: and I think I had I was spoke speaking to

671
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: someone yesterday about how important things are to be science

672
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 3: backed and how we really need clinical studies for things

673
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, the actual fact is a

674
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: lot of these things that have been passed down, they've

675
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: been passed down from generations to generations to generations, but

676
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: they've had no financial.

677
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: Benefit for passing it down.

678
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: They've had no ulterior motive to pass it down except

679
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: to heal their children, their family and the people. And

680
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: so with a lot of clinical studies, like you know,

681
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: back in the day, we would tell cigarettes were good

682
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: for us.

683
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: And now they're not. And then we're told waves are

684
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: good for us, and now they're not. And so I'm

685
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: not saying clinical studies don't.

686
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: Have a place, but I think there is a big

687
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: part in just let me see what feels good for

688
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: me le and listen to what other people are telling

689
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 3: me to do.

690
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: And so there is science, but there's also the.

691
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: Magic of intuition and understanding and connecting back to our

692
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: body to actually get the evidence.

693
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: That we need well.

694
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Speaker 1: And one of the things that's so cool to me is,

695
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you know, iraveda is a five thousand

696
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: year old practice looked at culturally as medicine, and I

697
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: think it's so cool now that there are so many

698
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: studies being done and the lore of this is how

699
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: this system works for you, This is how you can

700
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: take care of your body, is also being scientifically proven.

701
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: Like for me, I think there's nothing cooler than when

702
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: you're intuition and science meet because I'm like, I love it,

703
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: Like that's what I crave and it's exciting to know.

704
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: You know, as we said, like I've never been able

705
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: to cure my asthma, but my asthma is so much

706
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: better now that I have not only the medicinal tools

707
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: that I need, but the dietary knowledge, the breath work,

708
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: the exercises, all of it has added up to me

709
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: being so much healthier now than I was ten years ago.

710
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: And I think there's something really beautiful about what you're

711
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: talking about, how the science of ayr Veda really is.

712
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: It's universal, but it's individually applied so specifically. I think.

713
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: For I'm wondering if there's folks at home that are

714
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: like this sounds really cool, but I don't know much

715
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: about it. I'm really pressed for time. This sounds expensive,

716
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: Like how complex a re programming are we talking? Because

717
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: like I don't necessarily have an hour at lunchtime to

718
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: practice gratitude while I eat, So can you give us

719
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: like the Inside Baseball on the sort of small changes

720
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: that make the big difference.

721
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Qually, And that's honestly what I based my book on.

722
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, no one's got time to you can you

723
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: can choose different rituals throughout the book and different practices

724
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: that you find you're attracted to the most. And so

725
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 3: you may not have time to do an hour of gratitude,

726
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: but you may have a moment to just say thank

727
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: you so much for this food and I I am

728
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: so grateful that my body's going to receive it.

729
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: And that's it, like you can say it quick. Yeah.

730
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, that was like thirty that was

731
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: like thirty.

732
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: Seconds exactly exactly.

733
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: I love a thirty second life changer.

734
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: Do we too?

735
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: And then you know, the other thing, which I was

736
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: going to say when you brought up what we were

737
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: just talking about, is there are so many studies now

738
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: done on the benefits of spices like commit you know,

739
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: there are actual studies that have been done on this.

740
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: Now I just based on my experience of it, but

741
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: when I've started seeing people actually doing study and showing

742
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: the benefits and our bodies are a big part of

743
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: the book and my intention with it is. I want

744
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: people spice covers to be filled by the end of

745
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: this book. Spices have such incredible, subtle preventative mechanisms to

746
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: to help build your immunity, boost your digestion, you know,

747
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: boost your boost your mindset.

748
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: Like there's so much that spices can do.

749
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: And so another quick tip is go to your supermarket

750
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: or sorry, your grocery store the next time you are

751
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: you're going shopping, and pick three spices pix spices that

752
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: you want to incorporate into your into your food this week.

753
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Okay, are there's three you would recommend people start.

754
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: There are the.

755
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 3: Queen spice blend in irata is, coriander seeds, cuman seeds,

756
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: and fennel seeds of my favorites.

757
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: Oh good, I love this knowledge.

758
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: And as I start my morning and if you don't

759
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 2: even want to add them.

760
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: Into your food, I start my morning with hot water

761
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: with those three seeds in equal parts.

762
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: In hot water, boil.

763
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Just make a tea.

764
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah ccft, it is amazing.

765
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: Pari under seeds, cuman seeds, fennel seeds, all in equal

766
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: parts a teaspoon of each.

767
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Boil it in some water and drink that tea. It is.

768
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: I mean, all three of those have been found to

769
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: improve digestion. Just stoke your digestion because when you wake

770
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: up in the morning, your gut has been resting for

771
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: almost eight hours and so it kind of needs to

772
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: be again a reminder of hey, like food's going.

773
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: To be coming in shortly.

774
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: But it also helps the detox because when we end

775
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: up sleeping overnight, that's when our body does all of

776
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: that cleaning up.

777
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: Like it's done.

778
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: We don't need this here anymore. I don't need this

779
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: here anymore. Let me start taking it out of the body.

780
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: And so this helps to one clear out and remove

781
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: toxins from the digestive system. Parianderine cuman are incredible blood

782
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: purifiers too, because we could you know, so many free

783
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: radicals and everything get built up in our body through

784
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: our environment, through our we need and so it's really

785
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: subtle but amazing and I recommended it to so many

786
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: friends and they're like, my digestion is so much better.

787
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: And in India, fennel seeds are eaten after every meal,

788
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: So when you go to an Indian house or you

789
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: go to India, after you eat your meal. The practices

790
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: in restaurants everywhere they'll have fenel seeds for you to

791
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: chew on after. And fennel seeds are and as soon

792
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 3: as you eat them, whether you've got discomfort in your belly,

793
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 3: bloating or gas, I guarantee you you will be releasing

794
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: it because fennel seeds are almost like an immediate effect

795
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: on that.

796
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: So try in a team.

797
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: So I'd save tea, add spices, a thirty second or

798
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: like five second gratitude prayer before you eat, and then

799
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: just noticing, notice the things in your life that, like ivader,

800
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: isn't something you have to be one hundred percent in on.

801
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: Actually everything is iravading because everything is just about is

802
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: this beneficial for my body or is it not? And

803
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: it's it's the observance of that. And so take time

804
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: to observe yourself. That's a part of aravader. Take time

805
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: to notice this makes me happy. This is what I'm

806
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: allowing into my senses. When I look at the person,

807
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: it makes me happy. When I look at this book,

808
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: it makes me happy. Like, increase the things in your

809
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: life that bring joy to you and start decreasing the

810
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: things that feel like they don't add value. And that's

811
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: through lifestyle, through the people that we're.

812
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Speaker 1: Around, and for folks listening who might want to incorporate,

813
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, more of a plant based diet but maybe

814
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: aren't ready to do a whole switch. Me included what

815
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: are good ways for people to eat enough protein when

816
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to go more and more plant based?

817
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: Good question. I've been focusing on that a lot this year,

818
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to take.

819
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: One hundred grams of protein minimum every single day, And yeah,

820
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: it takes planning and it takes an adjustment, but I

821
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: also say try to go towards things that are already

822
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: naturally plant based if you are making switches, because it's

823
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: the things which are made to be substitutes that can

824
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: end up actually harming our health a little bit more

825
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: than doing it good.

826
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: And I understand the substitutes once in.

827
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: A while, but trying to baste all your meals around

828
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: it well might actually not make you feel great.

829
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: And so whether it is a cup of.

830
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: Lentils, whether it is soyer beans, whether it's you know, tofu,

831
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: has been given a really bad rap back in the day,

832
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: but there's been so many studies now to show that

833
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: it takes such a large amount to affect your health

834
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: in a negative way. And that's with everything anything too

835
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: much quantity.

836
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: And so yeah, your.

837
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: Beans, your lentils, the tofu creating, like, oh what else

838
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: do these hemp seeds, nuts? It's really about the little

839
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: things because I think when you eat meat, you're used

840
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: to getting a bulk of your protein in one go,

841
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: whereas also the animals that are getting that protein are

842
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: eating plants, and so there is ways for us to

843
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: get protein from plants we just have.

844
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: And so I have a whole area of this.

845
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: There's literally a section that says, will I get enough

846
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: protein being plant based? There are plenty of ways to

847
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: do it. It just takes a little bit more meal planning

848
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: and getting yourself adjusted to it.

849
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: But I also say I'll go all in at once.

850
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: I took a I took I just I turned plant based,

851
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: and I was only.

852
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: Going from being vegetarian to vegan.

853
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: And I did that over a six month to a

854
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: year period, and I let the last because I loved cheese.

855
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: And you don't have to do you don't have to

856
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: do everything all at once, like a few days a week.

857
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: You want to make some plant based meals and start

858
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: enjoying them, you know, it takes a lot for our

859
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: body to start adjusting, especially if you've been eating meat

860
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 3: for thirty forty fifty years of your life, Like, yeah,

861
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: expect a body to just completely adjust, and so give

862
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: yourself some greace, like do what feels best for you

863
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: and slowly but surely make make progress, you know, towards

864
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: plant based lifestyle.

865
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Speaker 1: I think that's really important advice. I mean, particularly in America.

866
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I think we get really obsessed with like hashtag goals

867
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: like I'm going to change my life this week and

868
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: institute forty new habits and give up these things, and

869
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: you know it's the reason all of our nears revolutions

870
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: always fail. So I think giving yourself permission to make

871
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: changes slowly feels nice.

872
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: It does, and more sustainable.

873
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are things you would recommend people eat every day?

874
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: Or is there anything we should be eating every day?

875
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: And I know the tea is one thing, but I

876
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: know you said too much of anything is a bad thing.

877
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: So do you find it's more about variations or are

878
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: there like a couple of core things that should be

879
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: in our daily eating practice.

880
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: I think the macros can be on a daily basis,

881
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: so you make sure you get your comma, your proteins,

882
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: your fats, your healthy fats. But in terms of the

883
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: same thing every day, I really do believe in seasonal eating,

884
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 3: but also having variety in your diet because our gut microbiome,

885
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: which is the you know, the healthy bacteria that end

886
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: up digesting the food in our.

887
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: Gut, it thrives off variety.

888
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: It actually is fed by different vegetables and fruits and

889
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: different ingredients.

890
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: And so if we limit.

891
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: Ourselves to having certain things every day, it may serve

892
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: us in the summer, and it may be amazing for

893
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: us in the summer, like having lots of smoothies and salads,

894
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: but actually in winter, our digestion might not be able

895
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: to handle that, you know, our just through the seasons,

896
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: and so I actually don't recommend having anything throughout the year.

897
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: You'll notice your body actually.

898
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: Rejecting certain things at certain times of year and craving

899
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: them at other times. So i'd say making sure that

900
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: you're getting an abundance of colors on your plate, That's

901
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: something I would say, without a doubt is.

902
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: What you should be aiming for.

903
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: So different colors on your plate coming from different parts

904
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: of the food group, so your calves, your proteins, your

905
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 3: healthy fats and your fruits and your vegetables. An abundance

906
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: of different colors on your plate, for that will make

907
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: sure you're getting all the different vitamins and minerals you need,

908
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: because all the colors represent fogusman's and minerals that.

909
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: They have in them. Yeah.

910
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like giving recommendations of life it's every

911
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: day because but.

912
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: That's helpful to know that we shouldn't box ourselves in

913
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, one of the things that's been

914
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: really illuminating for me. I feel so lucky to live

915
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: in California is you know, I really do try to

916
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: make it to the farmer's market on the weekends. And

917
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: when you start learning what's in season, it does, it

918
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: does really, at least it did for me. It really

919
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: changed my understanding of, to your point, what I should

920
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: be eating, because we do have these wild grocery stores

921
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: where everything's available all the time, but what does that mean?

922
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: And so I love being able to shop a little

923
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: more locally, whether it's at the farmer's market or signing

924
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: up for you know, a CSA if you have that

925
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: in your area, because then you start buying and receiving

926
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: what's in season, and it is nice to eat more,

927
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, with the growing patterns of the things we're ingesting.

928
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's why you know when people have local

929
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: honey and it helps with their hay fever or it

930
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: helps with the energy. Well, if you think about it,

931
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: our body tunes into the nature around us. Like I

932
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: keep saying this in interviews, but I really mean it.

933
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: We are part of nature. We don't live in nature,

934
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: and so actually we are so when we create disease

935
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: in our body when we lose sync to nature. And

936
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: so when we start eating out of season, when we

937
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: start eating things that aren't grown on the soil that

938
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 3: we are living in and that living on, and that

939
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: we are the nature that we are around and the

940
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: environment that we're around, it affects our body in that

941
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 3: same way. So actually eating the foods and the fruits,

942
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: the vegetables, the helbs that are grown on the land

943
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: that we are living on, it really does make a

944
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 3: difference because that's what our body is wanting and craving.

945
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: And so, by the way, it doesn't mean you have

946
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: to eat seasoning all the.

947
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: Time, like a cherry where you feel like eat cherry

948
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 3: pie when it's not cherry season, eat your cherry pie.

949
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: But trying. It's always about a balance.

950
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: So if you right now of sixty percent eating not

951
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: seasonally and forty percent eating seasonally, try and tip that

952
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 3: to fifty to fifty. See how you can do that.

953
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: So you progress not perfection, Yeah, definitely. Yeah, And now

954
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors. So when you think about

955
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: eating seasonally, does that mean that your morning routine also

956
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: changes through the seasons or do you have a pretty

957
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: set way that you like to wake up and start

958
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: your day?

959
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: Right? So my morning routine is pretty much the same.

960
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: But what I may adjust are the types of breathworks

961
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 3: that I do, or have the spices I'm using in

962
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: the morning or throughout my day, or the grain I

963
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: might be using. If you know, I need something that

964
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: feels a bit lighter during winter season during summer season,

965
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: but I want something a bit more heavy and hearty

966
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: doing winter season. But generally my practices stay the same,

967
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: and so I'll wake up, I do my breath work

968
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: in meditation, or before that, I'll break my teeth and

969
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: do my tongue, which I recommend. If there's one irradio

970
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: practice you do, it's using a ton of scraper it.

971
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: Will to change your life.

972
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: And then I'll do my editation, my breath work, and

973
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: then I'll have my tea, and then I'll go for

974
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: my workout, and then I'll have my breakfast afterwards. And

975
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 3: so I'd say I've had that routine for a good

976
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: eight to ten years.

977
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: Now, Wow, that's incredible. And obviously you know you're married.

978
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: You're not just exercising this routine solo on your own time.

979
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: You have a partner in the house. So does Jay

980
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: have a morning routine like yours? Have you led him

981
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: down that path or did he have his own and

982
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: you just sort of do them in tandem.

983
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: So I wake up a little bit earlier. I've always

984
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: been an early riser, so I wake up a bit early,

985
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 3: and then he'll join me for meditation near the tail

986
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: end of my meditation hall way through, and then honestly,

987
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: the rest of our day, except for on weekends where

988
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: you know we might read together at the same time,

989
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: we actually have quite a separate morning routine.

990
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: I go to a different place to.

991
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 3: Work out, He goes to a different places to work out.

992
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'd say we've learned what works best

993
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: for us. Because he was trying to force himself to

994
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: wake up at the same time as me, and you know,

995
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: do all the same things I was doing, serving his

996
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: body because he needs a lot more sleep than I do.

997
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: And the way that he likes to practice meditation.

998
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: You know, he might meditate quite loudly because we both

999
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: do montral meditation and I prefer having softer pies and

1000
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: meditations in the morning.

1001
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: There will be times that we overlap, but generally.

1002
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: We we've found what works best for both of us separately.

1003
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: And quite like it as a meantime in the morning.

1004
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: That's so cool. You know. Obviously you talk about how

1005
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: your relationship shifted your work, and you know, you guys

1006
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: moved to the States together. But if you take us back,

1007
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: how did you two first meet?

1008
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so we first met. So I met him before

1009
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: he became a monk. Briefly, I was, you know, volunteering

1010
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: at the No was I volunteering at the time. My

1011
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 3: mom was volunteering at the temple that he was training

1012
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 3: to be a monk.

1013
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: At in London. And then my mom met.

1014
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: Him because he was showing her how to do some

1015
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: services at the temple. How to you know, do the

1016
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: different activities she.

1017
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: Was doing that, and the next time my mom went there,

1018
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: she introduced me to him.

1019
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: At this point, he was a trainee monk and he

1020
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: was training there. We wanted to get my daughter involved

1021
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 3: in some of the youth stuff here, but I don't

1022
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: know where to start. And he said, oh, well, i'll

1023
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 3: give her details to my sister.

1024
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: She's involved in the youth group. He's going to be

1025
00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: a monk, and you can.

1026
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: Wasn't talking to women, and so he was like, I'll

1027
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: give I'll give her her number to my sister and

1028
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: she can, you know, start coming to some of the things.

1029
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: So I spoke to his sister and I started coming

1030
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: to a lot of the different classes and the spiritual

1031
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: retreats that they were doing, and I.

1032
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Just loved it.

1033
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: And I really felt like I'd found a place that

1034
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: felt like home for me, and so I started going there.

1035
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: But then we lost We didn't like talk to each other.

1036
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: He went off did his monk training. I was going

1037
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: to some of the classes he was doing. He was

1038
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: doing a lot of courses at the temple. But then

1039
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: he was in India and the UK, and so I

1040
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: knew of him, and I knew him as almost like

1041
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: a teacher versus being someone that I was thinking about

1042
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: in that way because he was going to be among

1043
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: like he was in full robes and stuff.

1044
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: So I was in that way.

1045
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: And then fast forward a couple of years when he

1046
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: ends up leaving the Ashram, I had already become best

1047
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: friends with his sister, and at that point when I heard,

1048
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: I kind of told her that I liked him a

1049
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 3: little bit, and she was like, well, no, I don't

1050
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: think he's thinking about that right now, and I was like, okay, fine,

1051
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: And then she told him and he was like, oh,

1052
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 3: she's the only person that I would have thought about

1053
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: wanting to get to know, you know, after coming out.

1054
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: And so nice story short, we end up talking and yeah,

1055
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 3: we ended up just really getting along and we both

1056
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: just had.

1057
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: The same values. And I think that was it for us,

1058
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: that our foundation.

1059
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: We both wanted the foundation to be a spiritual relationship

1060
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: and where we could grow together in that way and

1061
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: where we both can connect to each other and God together,

1062
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: and I think that's always been the foundation for us.

1063
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: It started that way, and we keep, you know, using.

1064
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: That as our north star, totantly keep re connecting with

1065
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: that purpose.

1066
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I mean, what a wild shift you know,

1067
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: you got married in twenty sixteen. You guys both have

1068
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: these big public jobs. You know, his podcast is so

1069
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: successful and your business is so successful wells As everything

1070
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: evolves and grows, is it really that that core of

1071
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, commitment to growth and a desire to always

1072
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: stay centered that you think allows you both to stay

1073
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: centered in your relationship as well as individually.

1074
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I feel like we're both both committed.

1075
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: Him he's taught me to be more committed to growing myself,

1076
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: and I really appreciate so much of what he I say,

1077
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: a lot of what he learned through his monk training.

1078
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Is what he had to allow me to learn once

1079
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: we were you know, once we were.

1080
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: Married, in the sense of he had to allow space

1081
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: for me to do a lot of growth that he

1082
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: had already done. And he very patiently, lovingly was like,

1083
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: he's never been someone to be like I've done this,

1084
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: and so you have to be like this. Everything has

1085
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: always just been such a gentle, loving patient like observer

1086
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: and whenever you need help, I'll take part. And if

1087
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: you don't, stand back and you do it yourself, if

1088
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: that's how you want to. And so it's been wonderful

1089
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 3: being able to have someone in my life that leads

1090
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: by example versus force or like, you know, I have

1091
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: to do things in a certain way, and usually having

1092
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: someone that practices so beautifully kind of makes you want

1093
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: to be a better version of yourself too, and so

1094
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 3: really practices what he speaks about. And so for me,

1095
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: even if I am wanting to get really leo and

1096
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: so I'm really fiery, and even if I'm like that,

1097
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: I want to do it this way and I'm stubborn,

1098
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: and they'll just be like, Okay, well I'm not against

1099
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 3: you right now, like I'm not trying to be against it.

1100
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: We need to figure this out together, And I'm like, no,

1101
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: just fight with me right now, just.

1102
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 1: Like I want to roar.

1103
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

1104
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: But I'd say that, yeah, our opposite Nature's help. We're

1105
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: both actually really different to each other.

1106
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: But at the same time, even if.

1107
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: Our personalities are different, our four values and what we

1108
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 3: both want to constantly keep at the center of our

1109
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: life has always maintained the same. So even if our

1110
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: externals have changed, whether we're in a different country, whether

1111
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: we have more or less, whatever, it is the purpose

1112
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: behind how we want to live our life has always

1113
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 3: maintained and stayed the same, And yeah, I think that's

1114
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: it's been a it's a blessing to have that with someone,

1115
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 3: to have the same Yeah, to have the same values,

1116
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 3: because sometimes that can really differ as time goes on. Yeah,

1117
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: you speak up till now, up till this point, who knows.

1118
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 3: I mean, like we may not for people later on,

1119
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: but for now, Yeah, it seems to have stayed the same.

1120
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: But I think that's really beautiful. You know that you

1121
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: continue to grow together. I think to your point, you

1122
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: never know you know what's what's going to happen. I mean,

1123
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: I've certainly dealt with thinking I know where something's going

1124
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: and then realizing you can't cross a bridge till you

1125
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: come to it. And sometimes you get to the bridge

1126
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: and you just can't walk over it with someone. And

1127
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a real importance in always being willing

1128
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: to check in with what you're capable of and what

1129
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: someone else is capable of. And there's such a beauty

1130
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: when you know couples like you two continue to figure

1131
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: out how to grow together. It's it's really inspiring.

1132
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, it takes so many there's so many

1133
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: ups and downs to it. Right, Like, there's never a

1134
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 3: moment in relationships where everything is just constant up. There's

1135
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 3: so many ebbs and flows to it, and so there'll

1136
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: be you know, months on end where maybe we're not

1137
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 3: matching in the way that we want to do things

1138
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: and the way that we connect with each other, and

1139
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: you know, it will go through periods where we feel disconnected,

1140
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: but then we get to connected back again, and I think,

1141
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a false narrative if we constantly

1142
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: tell ourselves that life should just be easy and relationship

1143
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 3: should just be a walk in the.

1144
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: Park, because we all change so much.

1145
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: There are weeks on anywhere I just don't feel like

1146
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: I'm sadder than usual and I don't know why, and

1147
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 3: I just have And so then that reflects in our relationship.

1148
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: And there are times where I am.

1149
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: So exhausted, I don't feel like I can give beyond

1150
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: myself because I'm still trying to figure out things that

1151
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: you know, I'm so focused on what I want to do.

1152
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't have the capacity to go beyond myself

1153
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: and do that. And so there are so many different

1154
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: dynamics to relationships. Sometimes one person is going to have

1155
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: to hold a larger space than the other, and sometimes

1156
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 3: you know that doesn't happen, and so you can disconnect

1157
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: and connect back again and get stronger and then get weaker.

1158
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: And I think that is what a relationship is.

1159
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: And so it's wonderful that we both have the same

1160
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: values and the same principles and what we want to do.

1161
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: But there's obviously always been this ebb and flow of

1162
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: how we've got back there.

1163
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so amazing. When you think about your aspirations,

1164
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: do you set them for yourself as an individual and

1165
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: also together as a couple, or or do you try

1166
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: Like I guess my question is how do you figure

1167
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: out what to collaborate on and what to keep separate.

1168
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question, m.

1169
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: I'd say when it comes to work aspirations, I honestly

1170
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 3: like I feel like a lot of things have come

1171
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: to me rather than me having a goal or a

1172
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 3: journey in mind for myself.

1173
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: And so I think I've I've.

1174
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: Always been on the journey of trying to figure out

1175
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 3: what it is I want to do, and so I've

1176
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: never really felt certain in that.

1177
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: So for me, it's always been a I don't know

1178
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: what I'm doing and should I even be doing this?

1179
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: And I sing.

1180
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: And you know, that's that's what's what I'm like. And

1181
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: Jay's like has a clear as like there is no no,

1182
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: there's no question.

1183
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Of what he wants to do.

1184
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: He knows what he wants to do, how he wants

1185
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 3: to do it, he knows what aligns with it, what doesn't,

1186
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: and he's extremely clear about that.

1187
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: And so.

1188
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: I say, I'm still figuring out and trying to figure

1189
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: out what even my aspirations are and how I want

1190
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: to live my life and the things I want to

1191
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 3: do even in the next year. And he's someone who

1192
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: has a five year, ten year plan of not even

1193
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: a plan, but a destination and like a direction of

1194
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: where he's going.

1195
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: So a lot of that.

1196
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: You know, if if that's the case, I'm like, whatever

1197
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: you want to do, I fully support, and if it

1198
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 3: doesn't align with.

1199
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: What I want to do, I will let you know.

1200
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: So if there may be a lot of events I

1201
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: don't want to go to.

1202
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: And there may be a lot of things because of

1203
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: my personality and what I don't find joy in that

1204
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to do, But at the same time,

1205
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: you're not going to catch him watching a cooking show

1206
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 3: with me, you know, like it's such a we have

1207
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: such different ideas of even what like our successes look

1208
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: like or what I'm I'm not a numbers person at all,

1209
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: and he's like, he's so good at figuring things out.

1210
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: He has all these numbers in his head all the time,

1211
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 3: like he's really.

1212
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: Good at that.

1213
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'd say we've both always tried to

1214
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: stick to well. When I was lost, I tried to

1215
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: jump on his bandwagon and kind of be like, oh,

1216
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: I want to do everything you're.

1217
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: Doing, and I want to, you know, be that.

1218
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: But then I realized, if it's not your aspiration that

1219
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: runs out fast, like you don't get joy out of

1220
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: it because you're just following someone else's path and it's

1221
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: not yours.

1222
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 2: And so when I.

1223
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: Started realizing that, it was you should be happy doing

1224
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: what you're doing, and I should be happy doing what

1225
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing. And hopefully if and when those two collide

1226
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: and they become one aspiration, then great. Otherwise, there's plenty

1227
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: of time in the day for us to be able

1228
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: to do our own things that we want to do

1229
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: that make us happy and then and then connect in

1230
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: during the day about things that we both enjoyed talking

1231
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: about or discussing or being part of, and so we

1232
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: have one company together. We have our tea company together,

1233
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: and that's something that we really enjoy doing.

1234
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: But again, he's.

1235
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: Part of different cause to the cause that I'm on

1236
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: because I do the creator and I love creating the

1237
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 3: recipes for it, and he's so good with the managing

1238
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: of teams and the finance cause, which I honestly I'm not,

1239
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: and so I.

1240
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: Don't want to be on those.

1241
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: You're kind of doing different things on it.

1242
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. It just sounds like a really

1243
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: healthy dynamic where you each get to maintain your individuality

1244
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: and you have a space where your relationship and your

1245
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: partnership really flourishes.

1246
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. We try to do that again and sometimes

1247
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: it works, sometimes it doesn't.

1248
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Well, but that's also being a human yeah exactly. But

1249
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: with all of this, you know, and we're so close

1250
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: to the start of the year and you've got the

1251
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: tea company, and you've got the book, and your business

1252
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: is thriving and your relationship is thriving. Like as you

1253
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: look out at the year ahead with so many, so

1254
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: many goals that now have the checkmark next to them,

1255
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, especially three years to write a book and

1256
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: now here it is what as you look forward right

1257
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: now feels like your work in progress? Is it something

1258
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: professional or personal or maybe a little bit of both.

1259
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: Honestly, I've been having a deep craving to go back

1260
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: to study again.

1261
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: Hm.

1262
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: The thing I feel.

1263
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: I've had a first for since the end of last

1264
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 3: year where I felt a bit depleted in knowledge, and

1265
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I'd say one of my biggest goals

1266
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: this year is like I'm reading six books at a time.

1267
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: At the moment and I am loving it.

1268
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: Like I just have such a deep desire to study

1269
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: and learn and to just throw myself back into being

1270
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: a student. And so I'd say that the only part

1271
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: I know about what's coming up is the fact that

1272
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: I want to study. Apart from that, I honestly just

1273
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 3: don't know what's going to come And after my book,

1274
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: I was like, what are you working on after your book?

1275
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I don't know. You don't know what.

1276
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: I know that I want to.

1277
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 3: Learn more and I feel like the more I learn,

1278
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: the more I'll be able to share. And so I

1279
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: definitely am going back into a phase of being a

1280
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: deeper student, and apart from that, when it comes, I

1281
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: will tell.

1282
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: You I love it, Sorr, I heard a good at

1283
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: a halt.

1284
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I love it. I also think it's

1285
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: really important to celebrate where we are and not necessarily constantly.

1286
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: It's like, you've got this major achievement. People are like,

1287
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: what's next, and I feel like you. I want to

1288
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: look around and go, well, can I just enjoy this

1289
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 1: for a maybe?

1290
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: You know?

1291
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: So that's great? Enjoy it and yeah, we can nerd

1292
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: out and read books together. It's all I want to do.

1293
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: I love that reading right now?

1294
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: Well, yes, please, I want the full list. Thank you

1295
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: so much for coming today. I just I love spending

1296
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: time with you.

1297
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: You do, Okay, we have to do a day. We

1298
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: have to set a time to spend time together.

1299
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm ready. Okay, great, And when I come over,

1300
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: I'll bring you honey.

1301
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: Local honey, and I will pick you.

1302
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: Okay, deal, this is my This is a perfect, perfect hag.

1303
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: Thank you again, Thank you honey,