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Speaker 2: All right, welcome, we are live from Jette Stadium and

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Speaker 2: Patriots Mini Camp twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm joined by Mike dus Eva Bizarre and i'd.

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Speaker 5: Say for the next hour or so we're gonna be here.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be doing this live press conference at about

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Speaker 2: twelve fifteen, and then we'll turn our cameras to the field.

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Speaker 6: And tell you what we're watching.

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Speaker 2: Today and then after practice we've got a special Patriots.

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Speaker 6: Let's go to mini cams. All right, we're at many camp.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what do you guys?

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Speaker 3: What are we watching? What's what's on your bucket? I'd

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Speaker 3: say the first of these attendants. I mean, it sounds

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Speaker 3: a little bit basic, but that's what you're curious about.

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Speaker 3: The Tourgunia Andam. We've seen most of these guys arobout.

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Speaker 2: The days here.

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Speaker 3: I would guess that most of them will be here

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Speaker 3: today as well.

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Speaker 6: Some guys come them in you see continuing to work

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Speaker 6: for some things. But I think the first place you

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Speaker 6: have to start contendants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've had really good attendance, I would say through

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Speaker 5: the voluntary portion of practice, emphasis on voluntary. They they've

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Speaker 5: we pretty much seen everybody come through at least one

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Speaker 5: been nice and been good for us, but also I'm

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Speaker 5: sure good for the team. But in terms of battles

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Speaker 5: or just competitions in this training camp, I feel like

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Speaker 5: we have a pretty good idea of most of who

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Speaker 5: the top line guys are going to be but you

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Speaker 5: And then on the offensive line, there's a few spots

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Speaker 5: that I feel like are still up for grabs, mainly

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Speaker 5: left guard, and who's going to be playing next to

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Speaker 5: Will Campbell is a big one for this team right now.

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Speaker 5: A couple of different guys, you know, Cole Strange and

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Speaker 5: don't think anything is set in stone about who's going

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Speaker 7: A couple of years ago, first round pick. Finally healthy

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Speaker 7: this year. I mean he said last year at this

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Speaker 7: time he was still learning how to walk. So highly

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Speaker 7: athletic kid. I know this discussion about his draft status

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Speaker 7: what is, but he's here now is what is fourth season.

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Speaker 3: It's time to put it all together.

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Speaker 7: Made for cool Strange, huge opportunity for him at left guard,

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Speaker 7: and I'd love to see him to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got plus athleticism if if he's able

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Speaker 2: So what you're gonna see today is basically a walkthrough,

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Speaker 2: but you will see, you know, some positional drills. At

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Speaker 2: off because of rules. But this is a mini camp.

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Speaker 2: It's a teaching environment. It's not training camp yet. There's

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Speaker 2: They're starting to arrive now getting on the field. We

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Speaker 3: Chase On too as well, those two edge guys.

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Speaker 7: This defense has been largely remade, remade this offseason, and

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Speaker 7: It looks a lot different than what we're used to seeing.

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Speaker 7: be very aggressive, and I think there's an aggressive tone

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Speaker 7: We've seen a lot of that through three OTA practices.

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Speaker 7: like you said, Fred, is just an extension of OTAs,

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Speaker 3: So I do think there's a little bit of extra

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Speaker 7: We're broadcasting live, We're doing a whole thing for it.

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Speaker 7: This is the last time we're going to see these

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Speaker 3: It's a good day, and we'll be here tomorrow as well. Yep,

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Speaker 3: So you'll get two days of mini camp from US.

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Speaker 2: Live shows, and again at around two thirty we're going

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Speaker 2: oh five or so, but we'll still be here. We'll

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Speaker 3: Great, so great. It's a big day here at Gillette Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Someone we haven't really mentioned yet, but all eyes will

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Speaker 2: be on Drake May as always. He started OTAs at

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been fun to watch him and Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 6: There's going to be some growing pains as they learn

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Speaker 5: And that's how I would categorize some of the things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. We want

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Speaker 7: Today shouldn't be a straight line, right learning a new offense,

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Speaker 3: There might be a couple interceptions. I don't think it's

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Speaker 7: But seeing Drake may Moore in command and control of

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Speaker 7: as we've been talking about all off season, guys, this season,

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Speaker 7: it's a lot on Drake may I don't want to

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Speaker 2: And if I'm Mike Vrabel and the coaches, this is

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Speaker 2: this mini camp again, you mentioned it was mandatory, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's here, rookies.

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Speaker 2: And veterans, and you want to kind of leave camp

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: great spring for Jalen Polk, who carried some of that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all about setting the table for training camp.

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Speaker 5: This is where you set that foundation. And we're showing

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Speaker 5: of your favorites. Yeah, Land Larrison thirty four. You see

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Speaker 2: So we'll see see you see Will Campbell number sixty

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Speaker 6: With Jack con in Boston College.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, which doesn't too many favors because Jack Connelly is

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Speaker 3: If if anybody can actually.

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Speaker 7: Make Will Campbell look a little small, but Will Campbell's

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Speaker 7: six to six, three hundred and twenty fans is, so

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Speaker 3: But it's funny. When he stands next to those guys,

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. We used to call it Dante's Inferno. I

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Speaker 2: think we should still call it that day, agreed. That's

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Speaker 2: where the offensive lineman go, you know, between position. When

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Speaker 2: that's where they were heading out there.

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Speaker 7: We got a good shot here, right, two rookie edge

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Speaker 2: While you were talking, Mike, our camo's were fixed on

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Speaker 3: You know, his burst, the power in the way he runs.

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Speaker 2: You know that's something that you can tell, you know

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Speaker 3: He sure does. I mean he floats, he floats through.

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Speaker 7: You could just tell he's got explosiveness and I'm really

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Speaker 3: How are they going to use him?

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Speaker 7: Though last couple of years feels like they got away

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Speaker 7: He's a little smaller, He's probably not going to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see maybe potentially some unique formations

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Speaker 2: It's funny you talk about formations. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 6: So there is a happy medium to it.

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Speaker 5: But even if he's on the field and they're using

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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw earlier Milton Williams just walking to the

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Speaker 7: I think Christian Barmore had some uncertainty coming into this offseason.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's one of the best things that's happened

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Speaker 6: Glad you brought that up. With Barmore being a full participant.

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Speaker 6: From what we have seen.

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Speaker 1: Good, good hike, Karen.

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Speaker 5: If Drake may as kind of a natural born leader

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Speaker 1: Think we're always trying to evolve in what we do,

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Speaker 3: Is it competing? Is it setting the stage.

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Speaker 1: away from the quarterback can stand off the ground and

442
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Speaker 1: not going through receivers without pads on. So really for us,

443
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Speaker 1: nothing's going to change from the first three weeks.

444
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Speaker 5: How was steff On Digg's done since you know, coming

445
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Speaker 5: to New England last week?

446
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Speaker 2: Good?

447
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Speaker 1: I mean just trying to you know, figure out where

448
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Speaker 1: where everything is and and you know, what his role

449
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Speaker 1: is and making sure that as we add those situations

450
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Speaker 1: the third down and no huddle in the red zone,

451
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Speaker 1: that he's staying up on it. It's working hard in

452
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Speaker 1: his in his rehab. When he can certain drills he

453
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Speaker 1: can be out there, and there's certain drills that he

454
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Speaker 1: he won't be. But I think he's engaged and uh

455
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Speaker 1: they're there, you know. I like his energy.

456
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Speaker 8: Christian Barmber when we talked a few weeks ago, so

457
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Speaker 8: he was confident that his medical issues were behind him

458
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Speaker 8: from last year. Do you share that same confidence and

459
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Speaker 8: what have you seen from him in the time you've

460
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Speaker 8: been with him here for these three or four weeks.

461
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to comment on Christian's medical status.

462
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Speaker 1: I'll leave that up to him. But what I've seen

463
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Speaker 1: as a player that is excited, that is coachable, extremely coachable,

464
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Speaker 1: has some versatility. He's rushed inside, he's lined up outside,

465
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Speaker 1: It's worked extremely hard. You've seen him chase and play

466
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Speaker 1: with great effort and just down the field and excited

467
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Speaker 1: to see where he's at. But I've seen a lot

468
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Speaker 1: of just improvement and a lot of engagement from him

469
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Speaker 1: since the time that we've been here.

470
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Speaker 7: Experience very early.

471
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Speaker 1: But looking at that defensive front, kind of following up

472
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Speaker 1: on that little bit, how is that group coming together

473
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Speaker 1: with Milton and Christian and Kan altogether. Well, there's a

474
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Speaker 1: lot of other names out there as well, so I

475
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Speaker 1: wouldn't just single those three out. I think that's that's

476
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Speaker 1: got to be a strength for us this year, and

477
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Speaker 1: those sat front seven, and we certainly invested in that position,

478
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Speaker 1: and I like how they're competing. I like how they're working,

479
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Speaker 1: and this is a tough time. It's just like, hey,

480
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Speaker 1: rush the passer, you know, be a physical presence as

481
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Speaker 1: a D lineman. But to a certain extent in the

482
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Speaker 1: spring and then pull back and then get out of

483
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Speaker 1: the way, no bull rush and all these things that

484
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Speaker 1: we give them. But but I'm excited where they're at

485
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Speaker 1: and they're learning a lot of installation. I think they're

486
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Speaker 1: working well together. I think they're communicating, which is which

487
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Speaker 1: is important. I think they're they're working hard, and they're

488
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Speaker 1: getting in shape from experience.

489
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Speaker 3: So how much can culture impact wins and losses? And

490
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Speaker 3: can it compensate for talent efficiencies?

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that that's you know, I don't

492
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Speaker 1: know what the analytical number is, but I think that

493
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Speaker 1: there's certainly a way too. There's a style in which

494
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Speaker 1: you can play, uh that can lead to success. But

495
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Speaker 1: but but again that's never gonna make up for for

496
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Speaker 1: execution and and and players making making plays. But hopefully

497
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Speaker 1: that we're prepared, we play hard, and you know, we

498
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Speaker 1: take advantage. We get good enough where we can take

499
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Speaker 1: advantage of bad football going.

500
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Speaker 6: Through the spring. How have you gone to know to

501
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Speaker 6: Mario Douglass and what have you learned about him and

502
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Speaker 6: his play style?

503
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Speaker 1: Well, I love the person. I love his attitude, I

504
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: love his spirit. He loves a practice, he loves to

505
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Speaker 1: play this game. He loves football. That that shows. I

506
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: think he's gotten better. I think there's moving him around

507
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 1: different places, and he's picked up everything that we've asked

508
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Speaker 1: him to do, so that the more that he understands,

509
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Speaker 1: the more we give him. And so I'm excited to

510
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Speaker 1: see where he continues to be and continue to grow.

511
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Speaker 1: The competition it left guarded early on him. Well, we'll

512
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Speaker 1: be able to evaluate I think the lineman once we

513
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Speaker 1: get to training camp. So moving a lot of guys

514
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Speaker 1: through there, but really we'll have to make a lot

515
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: of those decisions and determinations once once we get to

516
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Speaker 1: training camp and there's pads and start stacking some days together.

517
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Speaker 1: This is purely a passing camp, and so I don't

518
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Speaker 1: know if you get a full evaluation without shoulder pads

519
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: on as an offensive lineman.

520
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Speaker 3: You said it's a passing the camp.

521
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Speaker 1: What do you see problem the receiver.

522
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Speaker 6: There's obviously a lot of guys. You see a big

523
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Speaker 6: storting out part of the screen.

524
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Speaker 1: Well, I think guys are stepping up and taking advantage

525
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Speaker 1: of opportunities, or some guys that are working off on

526
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Speaker 1: the side. Uh, some guys that have haven't been available

527
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Speaker 1: to us, And I think that every day somebody shows

528
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Speaker 1: us something, it's can we continue to do it consistently? Right,

529
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Speaker 1: We'll go down in the red zone and see who

530
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Speaker 1: can kind of catch, you know, maybe make some plays

531
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Speaker 1: and contested catches and tight windows. And but but I

532
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Speaker 1: but I like how they've worked. I've liked how they've responded,

533
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Speaker 1: you know, thrown a lot at them now with you know,

534
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: first second, third down and then adding red zone and

535
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: no huddle. So hopefully you know they're ready to go

536
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: today with all those situations. Your analytics can't.

537
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Speaker 8: Sling the practice on one says that something you've done

538
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Speaker 8: in the past, and what's the thinking behind that.

539
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Speaker 1: I just felt like, hopefully we can get two good

540
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Speaker 1: days of work here and and get going on to

541
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Speaker 1: the off season program and we'll still work.

542
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Speaker 3: I just.

543
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Speaker 1: Then want to come out. We'll be out on the field,

544
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Speaker 1: we'll be lifting and running and meeting.

545
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Speaker 8: How do you do about analytics as a tool, the

546
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Speaker 8: advent of analytics and how much it's.

547
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Speaker 3: Changed in the fifteen to twenty years.

548
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Speaker 8: Some people mean on it heavily, some people use it

549
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Speaker 8: as kind of a guide.

550
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Speaker 3: What do you do?

551
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Speaker 1: We want to use technology to the best of our ability?

552
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Speaker 1: And what we can do to help us be more efficient,

553
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Speaker 1: to help us make better decisions and formed decisions. I

554
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Speaker 1: don't think it's that. I don't think you can rely

555
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: and base every decision off the numbers, But I also

556
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: think that those are important to ask questions and then

557
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: be able to follow up and come to a sound

558
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: decision on everything we do, personnel, coaching decisions, player health

559
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: and safety, strength and conditioning, every aspect of our program.

560
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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have some analytical background and data that we

561
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Speaker 1: can rely on on that they can ask questions, and

562
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Speaker 1: then when you look at coaching and self scout and

563
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: an opponent breakdown how we become more efficient, uh with

564
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Speaker 1: with that system.

565
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Speaker 3: A couple of questions.

566
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Speaker 4: About leadership at Drake a little bit earlier, just wanted

567
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Speaker 4: to fall up on one thing. How have you seen

568
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Speaker 4: him kind of handle that balance? I imagine it's difficult

569
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Speaker 4: to balance between being the guy that everybody likes and

570
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: wants to be around, but also being demanding.

571
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Speaker 1: Is that something they, Yeah, this is pro football. I

572
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: don't think everybody's gonna like you. I don't think that

573
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Speaker 1: that's something that that is possible, and we have to

574
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Speaker 1: just we have to do our job. We have to

575
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Speaker 1: make sure that we're prepared and that ultimately the players

576
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: can hold each other accountable to to play to our

577
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: standard and play to our identity and and know what

578
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Speaker 1: to do and perform an ability to maybe push guys

579
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: and not care about what that's that's that's evolving, and

580
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: that's that's a work in progress. I think we're all

581
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: learning each other a little bit. I think we're all,

582
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, kind of learning the system and learning the plays,

583
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: and once we we master it, I think that's going

584
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Speaker 1: to start to separate itself.

585
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Speaker 4: With one of the assistants he brought in, I don't

586
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Speaker 4: think you had so much experience with as some of

587
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Speaker 4: the others. Hey, what appealed to you about him joining

588
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: the staff And since he was hired, what has he done.

589
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: With the edge group to help him along.

590
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: Mike's a good team. He's a very good pass rush teacher.

591
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: He's a excellent teacher that breaks film down, that can

592
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: explain moves, that can show guys these moves. He's coached

593
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Speaker 1: a lot of good pass rushers, whether they're in a

594
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: two point stance a three point stance, they had a

595
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Speaker 1: certain play style. The thing I really appreciate about appreciate

596
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Speaker 1: about Mike is he can cater into every play style

597
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: and skill set and he'll show KC moves and he'll

598
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Speaker 1: show Keon different moves and one may be better at

599
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: another one, and so it's not one size fits all,

600
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Speaker 1: and he's able to coach to all those different guys

601
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Speaker 1: and I think you'll see it and have seen it

602
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: on translate to the practice field. I think the moves

603
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: and the things that they do an individual translates to

604
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Speaker 1: the team. So that's the thing we want to do

605
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: is make sure that our drills translate to the team

606
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: periods and then ultimately to the games.

607
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels questions guys.

608
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels mentioned that some of the offensive coaches were

609
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: showing him cut ups at things he wanted to integrate.

610
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: I'm curious, how important was it for you to integrate

611
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: some of those principles and what is it about maybe

612
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Speaker 4: some West Coast things that you wanted to bring here

613
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 4: to New England.

614
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: I think they are always that you want to have

615
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: a very inclusive staff. You want to make sure that

616
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Speaker 1: people feel comfortable sharing ideas. We understand that not everybody's

617
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: idea is going to get used, and that goes for defense,

618
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: that goes for offense. You know, we have to come

619
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: together and decide what's best for the football team and

620
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: you know what our players can handle, and again, what

621
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Speaker 1: can can marry with what we're already doing, and what

622
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Speaker 1: are some some change ups to those things. So I

623
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Speaker 1: love the ideas that everybody has been able to bring

624
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: and then hopefully we can blend it here in training camp.

625
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: Here there'll be a couple of players for personal reasons,

626
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Speaker 1: but other than that, we don't have any holdouts, if

627
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: that's what you mean. But there's a couple personal situations

628
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: that are going to keep a couple guys from being

629
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: out here.

630
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Speaker 3: That's Mike Rabel with his opening mini camp press conference.

631
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Speaker 2: And I don't know about you guys, but one thing

632
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Speaker 2: that really kind of struck me was when he was

633
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Speaker 2: talking about Christian Barmore and he was talking about he's coachable,

634
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: he's excited. We probably know more about Christian Barber than

635
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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel, does you know what I mean? Because you

636
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Speaker 2: forget that, like, yeah, we've had Christian Barmer here for

637
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: a couple of years, but Mike Rabel hasn't.

638
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: He's new to him.

639
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: So when I hear him say, well he's coachable, why

640
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: did he choose that adjective that descriptor that's a good

641
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: sign that in Mike Rabel's mind he's taking in what

642
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: we're telling him.

643
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: So that kind of struck out, And.

644
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Speaker 2: So that goes for all the veterans that we're so

645
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: accustomed to that we know a lot about, but Mike

646
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Speaker 2: Rabel's learning for the first time, and they're learning about

647
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: their coach as well.

648
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I found myself wondering sometimes, like a new coach

649
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 7: comes into a system like this, you need to learn

650
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: a lot of the players you're gonna have. So how

651
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 7: what's that study like breaking down your players that you're

652
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 7: going to have. But you're right, Fred as the as

653
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 7: the head coach, he's got a lot to do. Great

654
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Speaker 7: to hear that perspective on bar Moore didn't anticipate he

655
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 7: was going to dive too much into the problems. And

656
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 7: you know, if they're behind him or not, but overall

657
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 7: he's out there. He's out here again today I heard

658
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Speaker 7: Mike two mentioned at the end some of the guys

659
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Speaker 7: that haven't I haven't checked off yet. Did see Julani

660
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 7: Tavai here looks like his leg is wrapped. He got

661
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Speaker 7: injured in the last practice that we saw. Reports were

662
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 7: probably out till training camp with a with a calf injury.

663
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Speaker 3: But just a few players. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Ivan, you can chime in if you've seen any of

665
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 7: these guys, but ninety nine key On White, I haven't

666
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 7: seen yet, sixty nine Cold Strange, Matt Collins, we haven't

667
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 7: really seen him all spring. He's been essentially a coach

668
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 7: working with some of the players he's been around, but

669
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Speaker 7: not in Pats And last one I have is Miles

670
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 7: Battle and West Schweitzer. So just a handful of guys

671
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 7: who happened around, but ke On White and Cole Strain

672
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Speaker 7: is probably the most notable. Two guys that we haven't

673
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 7: checked off yet might be the two that that Mike

674
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 7: was talking about.

675
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Speaker 2: And it's funny, you know what a difference from the

676
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: past here when Rabel gets right to the point where

677
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: it's holding out. That's what I want to know, you know,

678
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: because that is really at the end of the day,

679
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: why you're asking.

680
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, one other site just to share that

681
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 7: I thought was was good, was Josh McDaniels walking up

682
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 7: talking to Stefan Diggs up the stairs. It looked like

683
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 7: they were laughing a little bit. Josh had his arm

684
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 7: around Stefan Diggs so excited to see what Josh McDaniels

685
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 7: is cooking up in the lab with Stefan Diggs.

686
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: It should be fun. Well, the question with him is

687
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: is he going to be ready on day one? Right?

688
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: But I mean it's amazing how ready he looks.

689
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: He does he does, yeah, I mean we saw him

690
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: last week and maybe we'll get to put some of

691
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: the positional drills up on the screen for people. But

692
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 5: I think everybody came away from that practice really encouraged

693
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 5: by how Stefan Diggs was moving and how good he

694
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: looked just six seven months off of surgery here from

695
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: that ACL in October. So I don't want to put

696
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: any timelines on it, as the head coach would say,

697
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 5: but I do feel like this is way ahead of

698
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 5: where other guys, just comparatively speaking, have been that we've

699
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: experienced here Kendrick Bourne last year and things like that,

700
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 5: where we didn't even see any of those guys in

701
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 5: training camp. You know, they were pup guys and we

702
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: never really saw them go through drills. So the fact

703
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 5: that it digs on the screen now number eight, like

704
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: the fact that he's doing these things already is really

705
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: encouraging not to get too excited.

706
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Speaker 3: It's a new partner. Really excited.

717
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Speaker 7: I'm excited too, Yeah, Evan. Evan's got to get some

718
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 7: guardwork going here.

719
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 6: Non existent yard.

720
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we can see Diggs and the other wide

721
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: receivers doing their drills.

722
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: This is probably the most exciting thing going on right now.

723
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 7: I mean it really is, and I mean the fans

724
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 7: are now able to see little what we saw in

725
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 7: the last OTA practice, which was some of the leadership

726
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 7: of Steffan Diggs. You heard about it last year in

727
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 7: Houston that he was really a big part of of

728
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 7: getting guys like Nico Collins and Tanked Dell up to speed,

729
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 7: and you're seeing it here over the last two practices

730
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 7: what we've seen with Stefan Diggs, with him, you know,

731
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 7: working with Jalen Polk on the side, working on hand

732
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 7: fighting a little bit, you know, sharing his knowledge. As

733
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 7: much as he was brought here to play wide receiver,

734
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Speaker 7: I think there's also a big part of it of

735
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 7: bringing some you know, kind of that alpha dog mentality to.

736
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: That wide receiver room. Give everybody somebody to look up to,

737
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: you know, and look look at.

738
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be a debbie down or you know,

739
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: get negative on it, but there is that thing about

740
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: when you have that, you know, type of high profile receiver,

741
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: you do have to watch out because he's definitely a leader.

742
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: He likes to you know, coach players.

743
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: We've heard that from the Texans, but also you want

744
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: to make sure that he's leading them the right way.

745
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: And I remember when Randy Moss.

746
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: Was here, who was probably the greatest receiver that you know,

747
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: one of the greatest receivers this team has ever had.

748
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: He was a pied piper, but was he always leading

749
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: in the right way?

750
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Speaker 3: You know?

751
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: And so I know the Patriots spent a lot of

752
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: time making sure that you know that that was in

753
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: fact what he was doing.

754
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: So you just have to be careful, you know, especially

755
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: when practice is over.

756
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: You know.

757
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 7: The word the word that comes to my mind, Fret,

758
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 7: as I've thought about this a little bit is jump start.

759
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 7: And I think this offense has gone a long time

760
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 7: without having that kind of threat that Stefan Diggs still

761
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: can be.

762
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Speaker 3: But I think you need something for Drake May. We've

763
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: talked about it, like getting Drake made that weapon.

764
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 7: Didn't really do it a couple of years ago for

765
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 7: mac Jones in that year where you're on the QB contract.

766
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 7: So you know it's von Digg's going to be the

767
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 7: long term solution of why Probably not? But I think

768
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 7: that he has enough left that over the next couple

769
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 7: of seasons he can jump start this offense and really

770
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Speaker 7: give Drake May a reliable target that knows how to

771
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Speaker 7: get open in key spots.

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Speaker 3: I just there's nothing more valuable.

773
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 7: As much as you want to, we talk about contested

774
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 7: catch guys down the field, and you know, I think

775
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 7: Drake May has that skill set to hit those guys

776
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 7: down the field, but at the same time, it's the

777
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 7: guys that can get open. Like Stefante's absolute route technician,

778
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 7: and he's going to be a huge help to some

779
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 7: of these guys as they learned the playbook he is.

780
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Speaker 2: And you know, I when Moss was here, Brady was

781
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 2: the guy who was kind of, I don't want to

782
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: say his babysitter, but he was kind of the guy

783
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: making sure that Moss was always focused, always engaged. I

784
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: don't know if May has the time for that at

785
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: this point in his career. So you mentioned, you know,

786
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's walking up the stairs arm maybe he's the guy.

787
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the guy keeping him focused on football, you know,

788
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: at least while he's here, because he is going to

789
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: be the example for the other receivers.

790
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Speaker 5: YEA, his brother Ben McDaniel's on the text and staff,

791
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 5: so it was with Diggs last year, So there might

792
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: be a little bit of a connection between those two

793
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: guys already. But I think the encouraging part about Stefan

794
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: Diggs is that if he's getting his targets, he's going

795
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 5: to be happy and there's really nobody else to.

796
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 6: Throw the guard the ball to you as much as

797
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 6: you want to throw it to Stefan Diggs.

798
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: So when you don't know the way they're talking about schism.

799
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 5: If he's healthy and he's out there, he's going to

800
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 5: get one hundred plus targets.

801
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 6: This yere easily.

802
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 5: So as long as he's getting the ball, like any

803
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 5: receiver of that kind of ILK, as long as they're

804
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 5: getting the ball, I think they're going to be pretty happy,

805
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 5: and he should get the ball a.

806
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 6: Lot, a lot.

807
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: You see Josh McDaniel's talking with the other coaches right now.

808
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: They're talking strategy. I'm sure what they want to accomplish

809
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: in this practice, but let's talk a little x's and oh. So,

810
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: if you're an opposing defense and you're coming in and

811
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: you're playing the Patriots, and assuming Stefan Diggs is out there,

812
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: you know he's the number one target, what can Josh

813
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: McDaniels do to keep all the defense away, you know,

814
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: at least ease up the pressure on Digs so that

815
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: you can get him all those targets.

816
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's a good question, and it's one

817
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 5: of those where do you allow them to kind of

818
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: take him out and then it creates opportunities for the

819
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: other guys and it's that trickle down effect sort of

820
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: thing where Okay, maybe he's going to be more of

821
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 5: a decoy this week or something along those lines, or

822
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: do you use things like you know, moving him inside

823
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: or using him out of a stack you know, two

824
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: receivers on the line next to each other, or a

825
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: bunch with three receivers on the line of scrimmage and

826
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 5: get him off the line of scrimmage and creative ways

827
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 5: like that.

828
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 6: Usually when you move guys inside or you move him.

829
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 5: Into those different alignments, it becomes harder to like double

830
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 5: him out of the game, right because you can't move

831
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 5: the bracket all over the place, So like, how do

832
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: you go about doing that? So there are ways to

833
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: keep guys away from brackets or double teams. But he's

834
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 5: going to see the opposing team's number one corner every

835
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: single week, and you paid him this money because he's

836
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: supposed to be able to beat those number one corners,

837
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 5: not you know, consistently, at some sort of consistency level.

838
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: So that's hope is that he still has that juice

839
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 5: in the tank to go out there and get open

840
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: against number one guys. But Josh McDaniels is one of

841
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 5: the best guys, I would say in the NFL in

842
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 5: terms of offensive coordinators, of finding matchups and scheming guys

843
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: off the line of scrimmage to keep them away from

844
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: those traps of the defenses set for them.

845
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 6: So I'm really excited to see what he.

846
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: Has with Diggs because I think he's gonna move him inside, outside,

847
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 5: all over the formation. I don't think you're gonna just

848
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 5: see Digs running out, you know, into one spot every

849
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 5: single week. It's gonna be a ton of different looks

850
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 5: that they give defenses.

851
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: And while McDaniels goes over what they're gonna do on

852
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: the right box, feel like we need Scott Hansen in

853
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: here for the Dumble Ducks. The team is going through

854
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: their their conditioning and stretching exercises.

855
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: You see defense and blue offense and white d catch.

856
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: So he is here, White, you did, okay?

857
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 5: Ke On White's wearing like kind of a different color

858
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: practice jersey.

859
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 6: It's like white and blue.

860
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: It's interesting special. Yeah, so that's a two way player.

861
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 6: That's why you missed him.

862
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Travis Hunter e your heart out well.

863
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 7: That's good, and then it's uh, I guess really just

864
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 7: West Sweitzer Tyrese Robinson. So a couple of guys that

865
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 7: have been in the mix for that interior offensive line rotation.

866
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

867
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 3: Again, it's these camps.

868
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 7: You show up, you don't know who's going to be

869
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 7: at the voluntary ones a couple of weeks ago. It

870
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 7: gives a lot of guys different opportunities. Tyrese Robinson. I

871
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 7: remember a couple weeks ago him getting thrown in there

872
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 7: a bunch. So I think it's a lot of like

873
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 7: what you were saying, Fred, even you have a sense

874
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 7: of these guys, you study them, but getting to give

875
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 7: them opportunities at this point, it's good put them in

876
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 7: with the ones, giving them a look. It's along those

877
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 7: lines we talked about Fton Chisholm. You know, I I

878
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 7: I watched him a lot last practice. I gotta say,

879
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 7: I mean, the hype is real. Okay, he can get open,

880
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 7: he just he does. He has that savvy you know,

881
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 7: I hesitate to jump on these guys.

882
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: All right.

883
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: So so he comes in here, no one knew who

884
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: he was, and all of a sudden everyone's talking about

885
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: him because he seems.

886
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: To fit the part of that slot receiver. Yeah, what

887
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: what has stopped us from people knowing who he was before? Here?

888
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: Why wasn't he more well known?

889
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: Isn't because that certain position is just so special for

890
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's offense, Like you know, yeah.

891
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well he went to Eastern Washington, so he went

892
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 5: to a smaller school, and he had huge production at

893
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 5: Eastern Washington. Actually took down some of Cooper Cups records

894
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: school records at Eastern Washington. But he was at a

895
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: Shrine Bowl invite to he went was at the Shrine

896
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: Bowl this year, and then he ran a four to

897
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 5: seven in the forty yard dash. And when you run

898
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 5: that slow at the receiver position, teams are just crossing you.

899
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 6: Off as a draftable player.

900
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 5: You know, the same thing happened to Xavier Orstreppo out

901
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 5: of Miami who ran a bad forty times.

902
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 6: So you had the bad forty time.

903
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 5: He's not the most physically imposing guy out there, but

904
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 5: the production in the craftiness is definitely there of an

905
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: NFL player, And just talking to some of the guys

906
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 5: at the Shrine Bowl, they were disappointed that he went undrafted.

907
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 5: They really felt like he had draftable tape and looked

908
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 5: past the test of what you need to get draft

909
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 5: at that specific position. Like everybody's making a big deal

910
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 5: about the forty, but nobody's talking about the fact that

911
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 5: his short shuttle and his three cone was one of

912
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: the best at the combine.

913
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, if you're looking at the slot receiver,

914
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: you're not looking at forty.

915
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: You're looking at quickness in small spaces.

916
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so you know, yeah, you.

917
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 5: Tell me that he very very high marks in both

918
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 5: of those things, especially the short shuttle, you know, the

919
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: little twenty yard shuttle, well over the ninetieth percentile in

920
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 5: the short shuttle drill, and then also a sub seven

921
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: three cone and a really good three cone time too.

922
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 6: So you look at guys you like a.

923
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 5: Wes Welker, for example, who ran in like the four

924
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 5: to six range and the forty but just had off

925
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 5: the charts quickness. You know that definitely can translate specifically

926
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 5: to playing in that slot role.

927
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: And there you see eighty six right there, right behind

928
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: Trevion Henderson.

929
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: So you know who knows who knows that? I think

930
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: that the smarts is an underrated aspect of that.

931
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 7: Really hard to judge the football smarts of guys when

932
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 7: they're coming out, whether it's right or not. Josh McDaniel's

933
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 7: system has a reputation for being difficult to pick up

934
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 7: for some receivers. So if Ethton Chisholm's really smart and

935
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 7: is consistently in the right place where Josh McDaniels wants

936
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 7: him to be, you know, last week we saw him

937
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 7: starting to get some reps with you know, the upper

938
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 7: level guys, and that should.

939
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: Only continue if he continues to play like that, you know,

940
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: And I want to talk about that a little bit.

941
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: You know, the reputation the McDaniel's offense being you know,

942
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: complex and hard to pick up. Is it because it's

943
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: just so much to absorb or does it you know,

944
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: especially in the position.

945
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: Of the slot.

946
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: Does it rely on the player having a high football

947
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: IQ and being instinctual And that's something sometimes you can't

948
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: teach and the player either has it or they don't.

949
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 5: A lot of at least what in the past it's

950
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: been in the past. I mean, we don't know exactly

951
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 5: what it's going to look like this time around, but

952
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: in the past, they're reading coverage, so you're you're sight

953
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: adjusting or you're adjusting your routes based.

954
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 6: Off of is it man, is it zone? Is it

955
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 6: one high, is it two high? Safeties? Are they playing

956
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 6: off or they playing press?

957
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 5: And everything within the route has an adjustment to what

958
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 5: the coverage is doing. Now, when it's executed properly, it

959
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 5: can almost be unstoppable because guys are just breaking away

960
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: from coverage all the time and finding those open areas

961
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 5: on the field. But it takes quarterback and receiver to

962
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 5: really see the same picture. And I remember with Brady,

963
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 5: it was what Brady saw. It wasn't necessarily what was right,

964
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 5: it was what Brady saw. So if Brady was expecting

965
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: you to break away from this leverage or to sit

966
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: against that zone, then you did it the way that

967
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 5: Tom Brady did it. So all these receivers and Drake

968
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 5: May this time of year especially, are getting together and

969
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 5: they're figuring out, you know, if he's playing outside leverage

970
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: on me and it's single high safety, Like, I'm expecting

971
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 5: you to run this route this way, right, and you

972
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: have to be able to do it.

973
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 6: So that's the complexity of it.

974
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: And I think a guy like Chisholm, when you play

975
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: in that slot, you're reading all these different elements and

976
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: you have to find these pockets of space in these

977
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 5: high traffic areas. And he just has shown a nat

978
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 5: in the spring of being able to do those sort

979
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: of things. And you look at Julian Edelman, former quarterback,

980
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: Jacoby Myers former quarterback, like those are the guys that

981
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: have really thrived in that solot role, that have that

982
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 5: thinking man's game.

983
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and eachis that's a good way to put it.

984
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: You see the team getting together in the middle of

985
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: the field here, just usually sometimes they do this where

986
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: Brabel just kind of sets the tone.

987
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: That's what we're looking for today.

988
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: You know, don't hit the quarterback, don't drop the ball,

989
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: you know, run through the play, finish the play.

990
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: You know, those types of things. Stay off the ground.

991
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: Just just a little reminder some of the things he

992
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: said in the press conference earlier and now he's probably

993
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 2: repeating to these guys.

994
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, just go back to what Evan was saying real quick.

995
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 7: I don't know how as an offensive coordinator you can

996
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 7: run that kind of system that essentially is like a

997
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 7: living thing. I mean, it adjusts right like it's it's

998
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 7: a thoughtful thing. And ever go back to just run

999
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 7: the route buddy. You know, I know, I know it's covered.

1000
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: Just run the route.

1001
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 7: I know there are other systems in the league that

1002
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 7: will ask you to to convert routes or to adjust them,

1003
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 7: but as a coordinator, that's one element I can't imagine

1004
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 7: Josh McDaniels wants to change. It's it's so hard to defend.

1005
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 7: Like you said, if you have guys that are all

1006
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 7: on the same page. We saw plenty of times for

1007
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 7: twenty years. When it gets going, it's impossible to defend.

1008
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 6: And not every route is a fully an option route. Yeah,

1009
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: so option routes are.

1010
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 5: You know, you basically have your your cart blunch, you

1011
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 5: got your freedom to kind of get open. You know,

1012
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 5: a lot of those option routes are you know, routes

1013
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 5: that like Edelman would run right like that really truly

1014
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 5: you could break either way and you had that total freedom.

1015
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 6: Some of these routes are just conversions where.

1016
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 5: Like, if this guy's playing off, I'm just going to

1017
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 5: run a hitch, but if he's playing press, I'm gonna

1018
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 5: run by him on the go route Like that's those

1019
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: things are pretty simple. It's the option routes, and those

1020
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: tend to be more in the middle of the field

1021
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: that can get overly complex, and every offense has these

1022
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: I should put that out there, like they're running this

1023
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan, they're running this, you know,

1024
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 5: down in Miami with Mike McDaniel. It's just the way

1025
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 5: that it's stressed up, in the way that it's presented

1026
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 5: that maybe it has been a little bit more complex

1027
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: and pass with companiels.

1028
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a passing league, and

1029
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: like you said, so many teams do the same thing

1030
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: and makes it really really hard to defend if you

1031
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: do it right.

1032
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you have a smart.

1033
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: Quarterback, and that's the hope here in New England is

1034
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: that we've got one and he's going to be able to.

1035
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: Get the answers to the test, as Brady would put it.

1036
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, add on with a full house today, a wide receiver,

1037
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see how some of the reps

1038
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 7: are divvied up in these two camps. It's not the

1039
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: end of the world where guys are, but you certainly

1040
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 7: get a sense of who's kind of in the mix

1041
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 7: with the upper group and who's trying to fight their

1042
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 7: way into that group.

1043
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you have the corners all one together today.

1044
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: So that was something from last practice that you just noted.

1045
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: No Carlton Davis, no Marcus Jones and the voluntary practice.

1046
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 5: They're both here today and that duo Gonzales and Carlton

1047
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 5: Davis has a chance to be really, really good. So

1048
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: let's see what happens when those receivers get out there

1049
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: today and they have an all pro on one side,

1050
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 5: in a pro Bowl calib corner on the other side.

1051
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: And can you have a practice like you had last

1052
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 5: week for Drake May when this whole defense is together,

1053
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 5: because I kind of think of this defense a little

1054
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 5: bit as two's like Milton Williams and Christian Barmore kind

1055
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 5: of that pairing up front, but the safety Dandam you know,

1056
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 5: Duggar and Peppers. And now you have this cornerback tandem

1057
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 5: that has a chance to be truly one of the

1058
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 5: best cornerback tandems in the NFL. I really believe that,

1059
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: especially with Gonzales. Just continue to ascending.

1060
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: So to a end.

1061
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 5: So we'll see this group out there together today, which

1062
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 5: will be exciting.

1063
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: Well, when the Patriots are at the best, they really

1064
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: got at it in practice, I mean practice was as

1065
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: competitive as the games. Guys like Rodney Harrison were, you know,

1066
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: always chirping Brady, and Brady was chirping back. Who do

1067
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: you think is going to be that a hole on

1068
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: defense this year? That really gives Drake May the business

1069
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: but makes him a better quarterback.

1070
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: Definitely heard Carlton Davis be that kind of guy in

1071
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 5: the past. He can be a chirper, he can be

1072
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 5: someone that can do a little trash talking. Christian Barmore

1073
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 5: is known for being a little bit of a charge

1074
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 5: a talker out there as well.

1075
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 6: So maybe in the pass rush, you know, he gets

1076
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 6: in there and we'll let Drake May hear it.

1077
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 5: But Davis, in a lot of ways, I just think

1078
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 5: compliments Gonzales really well.

1079
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 6: Gonzalez has got.

1080
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 5: That Stefan Gilmour energy, a little bit quieter Sassin ninja

1081
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: out there, whereas Carlton Davis is that more of that

1082
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: stereotypical number one corner where he's got a little bit

1083
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: of bravado and he's got some you know, pizzazz to

1084
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: his game. He's got those long arms too. You just

1085
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 5: look at the arms on him that everybody talks about it,

1086
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: you can tell you just look at his body type,

1087
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: that he's got tons of length and physicality and a

1088
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: little bit of snarl to him too.

1089
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: Pepper's is a little loud.

1090
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 7: To a guy I'd like to highlight, though, is Robert Splaine,

1091
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 7: who I think if you're just kind of tuning into

1092
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 7: this season, he's the new man in the middle. Now,

1093
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 7: he's the guy that's going to be running the defense,

1094
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 7: calling it. We talked about some of the OTA practices

1095
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 7: where it seemed like he was consistently blowing up plays

1096
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 7: in the blackfield.

1097
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: He just seemed to know what was coming. He's going

1098
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: to be a big part.

1099
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: He's a quiet guy though, I don't think he's a

1100
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 7: trash talker, but he is going to be in the

1101
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 7: backfield a lot, hopefully this year, tackles for loss plays

1102
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 7: on the ball.

1103
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: Those are the things hoping for.

1104
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 7: Veteran Roberts Spulaine, who has been just an absolute tackling

1105
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 7: beast the last two seasons with the Raiders.

1106
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1107
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 5: I know, I know a few of the Raiders writers

1108
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: and their pists that Splaine left in free agency. Like

1109
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: the Raiders, you know, you always liked that when the

1110
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: fan base and the reporters are like, oh dang, you

1111
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: got our guy. And I remember last week he had

1112
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: a good practice a couple of weeks ago and guy

1113
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: in all the Raiders but was like, oh, what are you?

1114
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 6: That's Robert Splaine.

1115
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 5: Just you know, he's not necessarily the biggest name or

1116
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: the guy that people are going to write about first,

1117
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 5: but he's always around the football, and he's got a

1118
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 5: great motor and a great instincts to his game and

1119
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 5: you know, NonStop hustle sideline to sideline.

1120
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 6: And he made one hundred and fifty something tackles last year.

1121
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: With two years, he's got over three hundred tackles.

1122
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's going to just be a tackling machine.

1123
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1124
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 7: And those two guys together, you just saw fifty three

1125
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 7: and fifty four Christian Ellis, who had a little bit

1126
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 7: of a breakout season last year, I mean was forced

1127
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 7: into action due to injuries. Patriots wanted to resign him.

1128
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 7: The Raiders signed him to a deal maybe to replace

1129
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 7: Robert Splaine, and the Patriots said, you know what, we

1130
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 7: not only want Splaine, we want to keep Christian Ellis around.

1131
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 7: So he's six stuck around on a two year deal.

1132
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: So long Patriots fans have been looking for more mobile linebackers.

1133
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: Like you said, read the sideline to sideline kind of guys.

1134
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: I think this is you know what this defense is

1135
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: going to be.

1136
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 7: It's all about speed, aggressiveness, and I'm excited to see

1137
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 7: how I mean.

1138
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: You know, Zach Thomas is the guy that comes to mind.

1139
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: You know that's sideline, the sideline tackle machine, and people

1140
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: made fun of him.

1141
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's all he does is make tackles. What's wrong

1142
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: with that? Yeah, well, I think it depends. If they're

1143
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: eight yards down on the field, it's one thing, but

1144
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 3: if they're four.

1145
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 6: He needs some of that too.

1146
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you do.

1147
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 5: Somebody's got to take the trash out right exactly. But

1148
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 5: that will allow and I do you pointed this out

1149
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago. It is a great quote

1150
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 5: by Splaine where he said he wants his defensive line

1151
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 5: to get up the field and be aggressive, and he's

1152
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 5: going to make them right. And when those guys fly

1153
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 5: up the field, it's going to be the hit or

1154
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 5: miss sometimes because you are being over overly aggressive. And

1155
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: if he can just be that guy that makes sure

1156
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: that it's an eight yard run on an eighty yard run,

1157
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 5: then that's exactly what they need. You know, they don't

1158
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: necessarily need him to make all the splash plays in

1159
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 5: the backfield. They need somebody that's going to mitigate damage

1160
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: in the middle of the defense.

1161
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 6: And I think that's why he's here.

1162
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: And you know, he even said it, he said, let

1163
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: these guys up front make those plays.

1164
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: I'll clean it up. I'll get you right.

1165
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we talked about it at the top of

1166
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: the show. There is some talent here in the defensive line.

1167
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: They should be making some plays this year. So then

1168
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: you have guys like spelaying behind them. You know, that's

1169
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: a pretty on paper, it looks like a pretty good

1170
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: front seven.

1171
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike Rabel just said it. It's got to be

1172
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 6: a strength of our team.

1173
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly what he said is his press conference,

1174
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 5: and he's absolutely right. And you look at the stats

1175
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 5: last year, flasting the league in sacks, towards.

1176
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 6: The bottom of the league in pressure rate. They have

1177
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 6: to find a way to get after the quarterback.

1178
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: And I remember back in January that was one of

1179
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 5: the first things he said at as introductor and press conferences.

1180
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 5: Affecting the other team's quarterback and pressuring the other team's

1181
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 5: quarterback is such a big part of of playing good

1182
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 5: football in today's NFL. And they went out and they

1183
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 5: signed probably the best pass rusher in free agency in

1184
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: Milton Williams. And they bring in a familiar guy in

1185
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 5: Harold Landry, who you know back in this system. I

1186
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: think you hope that maybe his pass rush production goes

1187
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 5: back to what it was two years ago with Rabel

1188
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 5: in Tennessee. So even though the metrics don't look great

1189
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 5: for Landry last year, I didn't remember. There was a

1190
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 5: scheme change, there was a coaching staff change. There was

1191
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 5: a lot of different things that they were asking him

1192
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 5: to do, you know, just technique wise and schematically that

1193
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: now that he's back home in this deep rable defense,

1194
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 5: hopefully we get the guy if Harold Landry was the

1195
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl caliber player for the Titans for a couple

1196
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 5: of years.

1197
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 7: Just to echo, I know you already said it earlier,

1198
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 7: but again, it just puts a focus on Swinson for me,

1199
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 7: trying to get some young legs in there. I don't

1200
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 7: think you want Harold Landry playing every snap, even if

1201
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 7: he's being productive. You're going to need a third rotational,

1202
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 7: third or fourth rotational guy, you know, key On White.

1203
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 7: We've seen him show some flashes mostly from the inside.

1204
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 7: How's he going to play on the edge? Chase on

1205
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 7: more of a more of a DPR toviticity as rusher

1206
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 7: last year playing across from Max Crosby, and he's on

1207
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 7: Patriots unfilter, and he told us he knew he benefited

1208
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 7: a little bit from that. But some questions, and I

1209
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 7: just I would love to see one of those young

1210
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 7: pass rushers just bring a little bit of speed around.

1211
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: The edge, like a guy like Josh Ucha.

1212
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 7: He had a very specific role, but I'd still love

1213
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 7: to have somebody like that with some speed third downs.

1214
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little special teams practice here, Marcus Jones returning punts.

1215
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, good to see him. He's been He's been a

1216
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: little bit in and out. Don't know if he was

1217
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: dealing with anything. I know.

1218
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 7: Kyle Dugger and Michael went You probably the most two

1219
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 7: most significant players that seem like they've been limited. They're

1220
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 7: still kind of working back from some things. Kyle Dugger's

1221
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 7: been out here almost every time, just haven't really seen

1222
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 7: him do much.

1223
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1224
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was coming off that ankle injury last year,

1225
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 5: and the hope for with Dugger is that it was

1226
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 5: the ankle that was that led to the season he

1227
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: had last year, And if he gets back one hundred

1228
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: percent healthy, then starts playing like the guy we saw

1229
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 5: in twenty three instead of twenty four. And now you

1230
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 5: have that back in the mix with him and Pepper's

1231
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: back together and playing good football again. You can be

1232
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: encouraged by that too if you want. But I'm interested

1233
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 5: to see what happens with Marcus Jones in this defense.

1234
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: Is he going to be the full time slot corner?

1235
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 5: Do they really want a bigger body type in there,

1236
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 5: because they've talked about that a little bit. You drafting

1237
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: Craig Woodson maybe in the fourth round is a slot

1238
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: safety that could be a little bit more sturdy.

1239
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 6: At that position on early down. So we'll see.

1240
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 5: It's fun to watch those three, you know, Davis, Gonzo

1241
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 5: and Marcus Jones played man coverage because they can all

1242
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 5: play man at a really good level. But is that

1243
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 5: a full time role for Marcus Jones. He's obviously going

1244
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 5: to return punts and he's gonna have a role on

1245
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 5: this team, as you know, a primary punt returner in

1246
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 5: defensive back, but is he a starter on this in

1247
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: this defense?

1248
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 7: I mean, maybe he's just a piece you know, in

1249
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 7: the in the in the in the workbench, you know

1250
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 7: that that when we need him, when we've got a small,

1251
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 7: shifty slot that he minds up, lines up will with,

1252
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 7: he might play a little bit more.

1253
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: Or and when you need that double team in the

1254
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, because there's there's just elite speed that you're

1255
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: going up against, and you know you have him double

1256
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: with somebody else. You know, maybe more of a man's

1257
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: zone thing where he kind of trails the guy into

1258
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: a different zone.

1259
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: He's sticky.

1260
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I like that him coming out of college.

1261
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 7: I mean, he obviously has a little bit of a

1262
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 7: size disadvantage, but I connect that slot position to the

1263
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 7: safety position. And we've heard plenty of coaches getting asked

1264
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 7: about to Dugger and Peppers, does that fit the kind

1265
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 7: of free safety, strong safety mold you might want. But

1266
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 7: there's a lot of guys, you know, Jalen Hawkins who

1267
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 7: played a bunch last year, Marcus SEPs who came in

1268
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 7: from the Raiders.

1269
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: He's been a starter, a little bit more of a

1270
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: free safety guy.

1271
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 7: Del Pettis who played a big role for the Patriots

1272
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 7: on special teams last year. Craig Woodson you mentioned, drafted

1273
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, that's six guys right there that

1274
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 7: there's all some kind of argument for that these guys

1275
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 7: should should play and should play on defense. But how

1276
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 7: do the coaching staff see it all coming together? What

1277
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 7: picture are they imagining? That's where that slot position where,

1278
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 7: whether it's you know, Marcus Jones or Isaiah Boulden or

1279
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 7: Craig Woodson, that's where the defense will really get interesting

1280
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 7: to me. How do they want to play? Do they

1281
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 7: want to play more speed? Do they want more size?

1282
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 7: From that slot position? That's an interesting spot to keep

1283
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 7: an eye on.

1284
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: And you know, if the Red Sox aren't gonna use

1285
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: and we can use Romananthem, you know what can he do?

1286
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: Might as well do something right.

1287
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 6: There's definitely a matchups from Marcus Jones.

1288
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: You're gonna play that those two guys in Miami twice

1289
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 5: a year, so someone's gonna have to get Tyreek Hill

1290
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 5: and someone's gonna have to have Jayleen Waddle.

1291
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 6: And he still has that ability to go run.

1292
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 5: With those types of you know, shifty, fast receivers like

1293
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: those two guys. But I've been really impressed with Craig Woodson.

1294
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 5: He's probably been the player out of the draft class.

1295
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 5: That surprised me the most. I think he's been around

1296
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 5: the ball a ton, even going back to rookie Minni

1297
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: camp when we were in the bubble and we got

1298
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: to see them for that one day he made a

1299
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 5: play on the ball. So he just seems like he

1300
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 5: has a nice feel for the ball and in space

1301
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 5: and playing those zones deeper in the field that maybe

1302
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 5: Kyle Duggan and Jabriel Peppers aren't natural fits for playing

1303
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 5: thirty yards off the ball like that in the deep

1304
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 5: part of the field, But if Craig Woodson could do

1305
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 5: that sort of thing, that frees those guys up to

1306
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 5: then play closer to the line of scrimmage and be

1307
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 5: more aggressive and do the things that they are good at.

1308
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 5: So I'm encouraged by what I've saw from Craig Woodson.

1309
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 5: You know, there was a lot of talk about him

1310
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 5: being white, maybe the one consensus reach that they made

1311
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 5: in this draft, and he's been impressive.

1312
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's the kind of thing where you know,

1313
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: when you see a guy like that in the spring,

1314
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: then you keep your eye on him in the summer,

1315
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: and if they start using him running with the ones

1316
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: a little bit, then maybe they saw what you saw,

1317
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: you know, and and okay, we want to see a

1318
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: little bit more of this guy playing, you know, against

1319
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 2: the ones, I should say, who've seen the puppy nipping

1320
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: a little bit? And then you know, you put pads on. Okay,

1321
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: can he keep that up when we put the pads on?

1322
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: Does he do it in pre and that's how you

1323
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: earn more play.

1324
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the most fun stuff to me with watching

1325
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 7: camp day in day out, as you see guys start

1326
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 7: to get chances. And I always go back to Michael

1327
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 7: Whenu as an easy example, but right out of the gate,

1328
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 7: you just started to notice every day this guy this

1329
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 7: six round pick, he's getting some run with the top

1330
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 7: line and there seems like there's something there that he's

1331
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 7: this coaching staff like, so saw maybe a little bit,

1332
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 7: which is I'm hard to tell in OTAs, I think

1333
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 7: you really got to get to training camp to really

1334
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 7: find it believable.

1335
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 3: But you guys know how it goes.

1336
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 7: Injuries happen, opportunities open up, and guys are already starting

1337
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 7: to maybe make a little bit of a push here

1338
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 7: in mini Campinot's yes, stacking it up.

1339
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: Stack days baby, as they say, Yep.

1340
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 5: You always talk about that Theron harmon roll right, like,

1341
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 5: even if it's not a full time role, but can

1342
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: Craig Woodson come on the field and on third down

1343
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 5: he can be the deep safety in the middle of

1344
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 5: the field and it just unlocks everybody else to just

1345
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 5: kind of do what they need to do on the

1346
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: on the play and be the ones actually maybe making

1347
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 5: more of the splash plays on the football. But if

1348
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 5: he's deep up top and you can just trust that

1349
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 5: if they run a deep post, he's gonna be there

1350
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 5: and he's going to cover it for you, then that's

1351
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 5: all you really need out of him.

1352
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: You see the quarterbacks running through their drills. So right

1353
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: now the Patriots are carrying three. You got Drake, made

1354
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: Josh and Ben Woolridge. Yes, so those are the three

1355
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: that you're looking at right now. Looks like they're looking

1356
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: doing a little play action simulation here.

1357
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the biggest thing just going forward and

1358
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 5: with Drake may I know there's a lot of talk

1359
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 5: about grasping this McDaniel's offense at the line of scrimmage,

1360
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 5: but the footwork carryover. He had made so much progress

1361
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 5: his rookie season with his footwork going from where he

1362
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 5: was at North Carolina to where he ended up with

1363
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 5: the Patriots, and how are they going to keep that

1364
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 5: the same AVP was a big left foot forward and

1365
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 5: the rhythm of the footwork and all that kind of stuff,

1366
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 5: and it seems like it worked. You know, the boot

1367
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 5: camp that they put him through in terms of his feet,

1368
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 5: and that's how you control the ball. That's how accuracy

1369
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 5: comes from the bottom up, and you know your footwork

1370
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 5: and your mechanics with your follow through and all that

1371
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 5: kind of stuff.

1372
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 6: And I just thought he made leaps and bounds in

1373
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 6: that way last year. So you just hope that that.

1374
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 5: Carries over into this season and we'll see. These are

1375
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 5: the types of drills that they do out here this

1376
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 5: time of year to drill that kind of stuff. So

1377
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 5: you're dropping back from under center, it's one thing to

1378
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: drop back from shotgun.

1379
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: That's that's he's gonna yell down and tell them to

1380
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: get him out of from under center.

1381
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: You want him in the shotgun.

1382
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: I definitely would prefer to see him more in the

1383
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 5: shotgun or even the pistol than under center. I just

1384
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 5: I think it's more natural for him. I think it's

1385
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 5: a better fit for him. But there's a lot of

1386
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 5: advantages to the quarterback being under center in the run

1387
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 5: game that you can't deny. You'll play action works ten

1388
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: times better from under center than it does in shotgun.

1389
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 5: That's just statistically proven out. So you know, I understand

1390
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 5: that there you have to be.

1391
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 3: Pro style, especially the pony express right.

1392
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 5: And if you're gonna have me Trevon Henderson on the

1393
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 5: jet sweep and Remonder behind him, and then you're under

1394
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 5: center and you're.

1395
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: Faking and you get the guys coming in underneath, I mean,

1396
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: what's the defense gonna do.

1397
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: They can't. They can't. They can't defend every thirty five

1398
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 3: a game with that surrender. Just give it up. There's

1399
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry.

1400
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: It's probably the right now, the most relied table pass

1401
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: catcher that Drake May has.

1402
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 7: I mean, of all the signings they made back in

1403
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, I mean, Hunter Henry's really been an

1404
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 7: anchor for this offense for a few different quarterbacks, and

1405
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 7: he just he means a lot to Drake. I think

1406
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 7: it was a no brainer, you know, bringing him back here,

1407
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 7: keeping him around. I'd like to see maybe Jahem Bell

1408
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 7: do a little bit. He had kind of a rough

1409
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 7: practice last week and a couple drops and you know,

1410
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 7: you could seem like he was fighting it a little bit.

1411
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 7: I still think he looks good on the on the move,

1412
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 7: on the hoof runs pretty well, pretty big. But it

1413
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 7: seems like right now Patriots are pretty well set. Austin

1414
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 7: Hooper missed a couple of the voluntary practices he's out

1415
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 7: here today, so it looks like they're pretty set with

1416
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 7: those two guys for now.

1417
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, big one to know to number forty six there

1418
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 5: on your screen. Brock Lampy the one traditional full back

1419
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 5: that the Patriots have on one of one currently. This

1420
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 5: is a James Devlin Yakub Johnson full back with Brock Lampy.

1421
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 5: And that's a big question when you start doing the

1422
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 5: roster crunch and the fifty three man projections. Are they

1423
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 5: going to carry a full Are they not going to carry.

1424
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 6: A full back?

1425
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 5: I will I can't imagine Josh McDaniels is gonna not

1426
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 5: carry a full Like I think that that's just been

1427
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 5: a staple of his offense for so long that I

1428
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 5: have to imagine that it's going to still be at

1429
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 5: least in his back pocket, Like maybe that won't be

1430
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 5: the base offense anymore.

1431
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 6: Right now, he has a different kind of quarterback.

1432
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 5: But when the Patriots weren't going well, it was I

1433
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 5: formation James Devlin in front of a running back and

1434
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 5: just we're coming at you.

1435
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: You know that when you just needed a spark, you

1436
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: just run him out of the backfield and he catches

1437
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: a ten yard pass and I'll you know, all of

1438
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: a sudden, the defense you know, breaks their back yeah.

1439
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, or they go I and then they break it

1440
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 5: out and then all of a sudden he's out wide,

1441
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 5: and it's do we match him, you know with a linebacker?

1442
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 6: Do we put a corner on him? You know, what

1443
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 6: are we doing?

1444
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: And the question is are those rare occurrences enough to

1445
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: have a roster spot right?

1446
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 5: And and do you carry three tight end slash full

1447
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 5: backs Henry Hooper Lampy or do you is he like

1448
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 5: really the fourth guy? And then you're carrying like a

1449
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 5: developmental player like you know, one of the UF or

1450
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 5: Jaheem Bell as your third ye you know, Jack Westover

1451
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 5: has had some run here in these practices. I'm a

1452
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 5: CG dopre guy who's one of the UDA phase that

1453
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 5: they signed. So it's a that's a big part of

1454
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 5: when you're doing the roster projections, getting it down to

1455
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 5: fifty three, that's a big spot. There are we carrying

1456
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 5: three tight ends or you're carrying four tight ends, or

1457
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 5: you're carrying a fullback or you're not carrying a fullback,

1458
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 5: and those are going to be the things that are

1459
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 5: going to decide a lot of this.

1460
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 7: They got him catching passes right now, so I mean

1461
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 7: it goes back to the coaching staff getting to know

1462
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 7: these guys, and we don't truly know what they love.

1463
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I think personally like you can see that

1464
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 7: he likes intense dudes who were really into it.

1465
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 3: But style of play, toughness.

1466
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 7: You know where you splitting the difference on those lower

1467
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 7: ranking receivers, tight ends, defensive backs, even you just you

1468
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 7: don't know what they're going to come up with it.

1469
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 5: Right when you start talking about, you know, at large

1470
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 5: roster spots, just large roster spots regardless of position, that

1471
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 5: are up for grabs. If Lampi's on the team, and

1472
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 5: that's taking us spot away from somebody else, maybe that's

1473
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: taking a spot from a sixth receiver or taking a

1474
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 5: spot away from another defensive lineman or offensive lineman.

1475
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 6: So those are the tough roster.

1476
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 5: Decisions that you have to make, and there are some

1477
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 5: flexibility with the practice squad now, like he could start

1478
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 5: on the practice squad and elevate him for games and

1479
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 5: things of that nature. But when we get out here

1480
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 5: we still hear regular regulars sometimes and like, you know,

1481
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 5: the fullback's going on the field, like you know, that's

1482
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 5: just I can't imagine that that package is just going

1483
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 5: to be completely wiped out of Josh mcdaniels's arsenal.

1484
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: Good point talking about tight ends. Who's your blocking tight

1485
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: end going into the or do you have one?

1486
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think on this stage you're probably

1487
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 7: a little bit leaning more towards the third tackle, like

1488
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 7: a Caiden Wallace perhaps, But it's a good point.

1489
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: We always talk about it.

1490
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 7: Is there a spot for a guy who's just a

1491
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 7: pure dirt blocker get in there? Why tight end just

1492
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 7: ready to ready to do the tough work that needs

1493
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 7: to be done in the running game.

1494
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

1495
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 7: I think in a perfect world you have a guy

1496
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 7: who can do both, like Gronk, But right now they've

1497
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 7: been doing it by committee.

1498
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1499
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, if only we could just get Gronk, you know,

1500
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 5: the prime just picking up how many of That's got

1501
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 5: to be another one out there? So see you do

1502
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 5: preeze that guy out of Alabama, he's a blocking tight end.

1503
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 6: Two fifty five to six it is. You know that

1504
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 6: he's a he's a house.

1505
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 5: You look at him, and that was our first impression

1506
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 5: at rookie Mini Camp. I was like, that's a big dude.

1507
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 5: That's a tight end. Like you know, that's a blocking

1508
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 5: tight end. Hooper is a plus blocker. I give Hunter

1509
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 5: Henry a ton of credit. He's really worked hard on

1510
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 5: his blocking since the Patriots signed him, and he's become

1511
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 5: a much more serviceable inline blocker. But if I had

1512
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 5: to guess if they were going to keep like a

1513
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 5: pure blocking tight end as the third tight end, you

1514
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 5: know for goal line and short yardage and that kind

1515
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 5: of thing, then the body type is dupree You know

1516
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 5: he he's got that tool, he's got that ability. That's

1517
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 5: how he was used at Alabama. So we'll see if

1518
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 5: you can make a push. His time of year is coming.

1519
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 5: This is not his time of year. The the shorts

1520
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 5: and T shirts is not going to be where seed

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Speaker 5: you do free shines. You need the pads to see

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Speaker 5: what he's gonna do all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's getting to time where we have to

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Speaker 2: shut off our cameras, so we're gonna end the show,

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Speaker 2: but I want to thank everyone for watching. Practice will

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Speaker 2: continue and we'll continue watching practice. What we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: is we're gonna go into the studio at two point thirty.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up everything we see. So thanks for watching.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow same time.

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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Speaker 7: If you really want to help us, make sure you

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Speaker 7: like us wherever you get your podcasts, like Apple Podcasts

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Speaker 7: or Spotify. Also make sure you follow us on the

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Speaker 7: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and

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Speaker 7: everything else that we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot