WEBVTT - SHARP NFL Week 8 Bets and NBA Betting Scandal Reaction 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.680 Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bett. We 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.360 are part of the Volume podcast network. This is the 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.520 show that makes the square sharper and makes the wise 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.760 guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman and I am 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.279 joined as always by my co host, my companion Mike 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.840 and padre My BFF professional Better Signment Hunter. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.360 Hello, So I'm in Chad. What's going on? 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.520 This morning? The FBI, the US Attorney from the Eastern 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:37.960 District announced a sweeping set of indictments against many people, 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:43.360 including members of three families of the Mafia, LaCOSA and Nostra, 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:50.720 including Portland Trailblazers head coach Chauncey Billups, including Damon Jones, 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:56.640 former Cleveland Cavalier and assistant coach Terry Rozier. Two separate indictments. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:01.360 I will set the stage here to indictment thirty four 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:08.520 different people involved. One indictment is for illegal poker rooms 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:14.679 and swindling unsuspecting players in those poker rooms. That's what 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:19.520 Chauncey Billups is involved in and Damon Jones is involved in. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:25.080 The US attorney in the press conference referred to Chauncey 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:30.040 Billups and Damon Jones as the face cards of the operation, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.120 meaning they were the famous people who brought in the rich, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:40.520 unsuspecting fish into the games who were then taken. And 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:47.040 then another indictment in which they're overlapping people is the 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:52.120 one in which Tera Rozier has been indicted for the 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.720 sports betting sharing of information that also is tied to 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:02.080 Johntay Porter, who famously was banned. This is involving player 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:08.280 props and Terry Razier player props. Crazy story, definitely. You know, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.480 the stakes keep getting higher on the gambling scandals since legalization, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.000 and last a couple of years ago there was the 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.720 Otani interpreter scandal. Now this is front page news. This 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.240 has been blown up all morning since the arrest at 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.040 six o'clock in the morning, both in Portland and in 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.760 Orlando where Terry Razier was after the Heat game last night. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.320 He did not play last night, and now there was 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.720 a press conference that was all over the news. Looks 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.720 it's a weird thing. We do a show on betting. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.320 We have a good time. We talk about betting on 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.200 the games, We talk about where the opportunities are. That's 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.560 the primary focus of what we do. But you and 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.520 I are also very much in this world. We know 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.239 a lot about the poker rooms. We know a lot 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.720 about what's happening in the sports betting space beyond what 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.840 we talk about on the show. I'm in the middle 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.040 of working on a book about this world of sports 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.360 betting that will come out, you know in the next say, 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.880 twelve to twenty four months. You obviously ad are professional better. 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.280 There's going to be a lot of conversation about legalization 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:24.360 being the cause and these scandals being the effect. I 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:25.959 got a lot of thoughts on that, but let's break 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.800 down the news for a second. You're seeing this, what 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:31.440 are your thoughts? 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.920 Sadly, never shocked, just because, like you said, I am 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.800 in this world and we've talked all the time. I'm 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.840 someone that I love poker, I love Texas hold them, 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.720 and I play a lot of house games in the offseason. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.040 I do a lot of casino games, a lot of tournaments. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.800 But there's always gonna be house games, right. But you 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:54.520 hear of these games with dirty tables and fixed games, 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.520 and you might get away with it on one or 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:03.480 two millionaires. Not all millionaires are dumb that look into it, right. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.600 We've all met guys who you're like, Okay, he was 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.480 born into it, or he found a right niche. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:09.920 This guy's not that smart. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:14.560 Some guys are brilliant and they are incredibly smart with people, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.560 and they can see things that normal people can't see. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:18.839 That's how they made all their money. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:20.920 All it takes is one of them to get into 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.679 that game and they can tell right away something's off, 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.599 something's fixed. Then they go again and if the same 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.640 thing happens again, they're gonna notice it again. So it's 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.040 really about the names, right, It's huge names we all know. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.640 I mean Chauncey Billups. He's one of my favorite players ever. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.280 Like he played in Detroit Nuggets and then he came 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.120 to Philly and I love them like I love Chauncey Bills. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.400 I think I have a Chauncey Billups Sixers Jersey. No joke. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.080 So sad because you know how much money this man 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.560 has made in his career, and it wasn't enough. He 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.760 wasn't Like when when you hear people doing stuff like this, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.640 they could say they did it for the money and 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:54.880 their family, whatever they want to say. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.960 It's like Walter White and breaking Bad. You did it 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:58.600 for you. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:03.320 You didn't do this for anything other than yourself and crazy, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.120 crazy story. Like you said, it's the tip of the 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.119 iceberg a lot of times, right, So much more stuff 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.680 is going to come out as it's unfold. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.600 So it's a really interesting story. I'm excited to follow. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.680 And you know, people like you said, they think it's 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.159 bad the legalization of gamelin. This is why it's good 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:23.800 because before this would be handled off the radar, this 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.120 would not be handled in the public eye. I promise 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.280 you that. So things are just changed now and it's 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.200 a good thing. These guys should the light a day. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.960 And like you just said, all the laves it's going 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.240 to affect. This must be a huge, multi million dollar operation, 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.880 and like I said, it's it's gonna be really interesting 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.039 these next couple of months, all the information that's going 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:43.560 to come out. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.080 Some of the details from the press conference that the 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.960 US Attorney and the FBI had this morning in New 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.760 York were that the tables at these illegal poker games 0:05:54.760 --> 0:06:02.919 included X ray technology that allowed site individuals to see 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.400 the face down cards of the players at the table 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.240 and then relay that information to other people at the table. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:15.680 There were contact lenses and glasses that were able to 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:21.560 read watermarks, on pre marked cards at the table. There 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:26.800 were mini cameras inside the card trays that a lot 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.920 of the players had at their table, so the cameras 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.480 were able to read what cards people had and again 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.120 relay all that to off site operators who were then 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.760 able to share that with other people at the table. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.280 I know a lot about these card rooms, like I've 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.520 spoken to a lot of professional poker players about it, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.920 and a lot of people who are playing for high 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.120 stakes games. This is how a lot of professional poker players, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.760 not games like these that are fixed, but a lot 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.279 of professional poker players even at the World Series of Poker, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.480 these are the games that are going on. These are 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.360 the games where the cash is being traded, where you know, 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.440 it's one million, two million, three million, ten million on 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.479 the table at the World Series of Poker, because these 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.000 games go on all night and that's where the real 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.080 action is happening. And they've been at the center of 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.360 this gambling controversy that started with Jean de Porter and 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.800 so the marriage of these things, and it was also 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.160 I think a part of the Otani stuff, the marriage 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.280 of these things and how these things take place between 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.920 just very wealthy people across the board is where I 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:38.160 think sort of the real intriguing sort of narrative is 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:42.040 taking place. Just like you're in these poker rooms. You 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.760 like to play poker, you just said that, Like when 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.160 you're inside there, what does it feel like? 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.600 I mean, it's fun, honestly, It's all about how you 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.880 viewed money though, like these people view money the same 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.680 way I do. That It's just it's something to have 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.840 fun with. It's not so much you know, like again, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.520 you can have rough nights. No one wants to lose money. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.280 But it's not like in Sopranos, right where the guys like, yeah, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.480 I got one hundred and fifty K, and I owe 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.840 this this casino room. It doesn't really work that way, right, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.640 It's you're spoken for. You're not going into debt selling 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.400 your business to play in these casino rooms. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.680 So that's what interesting part of this though. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.960 This is like way above my levels, Like I've played 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.600 in some games I shouldn't have been in, and I 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.040 literally play super tight and I'm literally just there to build. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.000 Relationships in the conversation, I honestly aim there. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.280 If I can get up ten k, great, If I 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.440 lose ten k, okay, I'll walk away. But I'll never 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.120 go all in unless I have the nuts, and guys 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.440 in that room will know that. So if I do push, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.280 they almost always fold, So I can bluff myself into 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.240 some nice spots. But I play super super tight in 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.679 those games. There's guys who sit down and they will 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.400 go all in every three or four hands. They just 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.600 like the action and they're there for the drinks, the cigars, 0:08:58.679 --> 0:08:59.040 the fun. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.640 It's it's all different. Everyone's there for different reasons. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.920 So this one, like you said from the top, Chauncey Billups, 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.560 if someone said you want to come to this pooker game, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.800 you can beat Chauncey Billups. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:10.800 I'm a sucker. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.120 I would have been there so him be them putting 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.679 him out there and being like he was running this 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.440 thing and he knew that he could get people in 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.400 there because of who he was. I believe that right 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:26.040 from the top. So yeah, again, American reporting people keep 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.920 saying it's dying, Chad's it's not dead yet. It's not 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.840 dead yet, and the stories are pretty incredible when they 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.800 do get broken. So yeah, I don't know if it's 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.960 gonna be Pablo Torrey finds out, but you know, that's 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.000 the greatest fear I think at all sports media right 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.360 now is you do not want to know if Pablo 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.960 toy is looking into you. I would love a Poblo 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.800 breakdown a show about this one, because, like we said, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.160 we're just getting the layers here. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.800 Man, you think it just stops at Terry Rosier. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.000 I mean, this tea might get really juicing in the 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.000 NBA not I don't want to say it's the most 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.360 corrupt league or whatever, but between the the owners, the players, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.000 no other leagues have these type of scandals right now. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:09.640 This is really really wild that every sport has their 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.199 own little scandals. I hope this is where it ends 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:13.400 for the. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.880 NBA because between what's going on the Clippers now what's 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.520 going on with players in the league. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.160 They need this to stop. You need this to stop 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.320 the NBA. This is such a bad look. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:37.680 Well look, the the player prop problem is the biggest 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.960 challenge for the NBA. And Adam Silver was on Pat 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.959 McAfee thirty six hours ago, forty eight hours ago talking 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.920 about working with the operators to try to limit certain 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.640 player prop markets, and I will tell you right now, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.680 I don't believe legalization is the cause of these issues. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.200 I think legalization is part of why we are learning 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.960 more and more about these issues. There are so many 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.040 people that are involved in the chain that have so 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.840 much to lose financially. And I don't mean individuals, I 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.079 mean huge corporations and these leagues. It is in their 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.560 best interest as much as it is a bad look 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.120 when this happens, to root out every single one of 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:29.720 these instances, because you can't have bad actors, and there 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.840 are always going to be bad actors. And we've talked 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:37.160 about this on this show. Literally the National League was 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:41.400 formed in something like eighteen seventy six. In eighteen seventy seven, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.199 there was a scandal about players who were fixing baseball games. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.679 It is going to happen. It is time immemorium. It 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.040 is not going to stop people from betting. The amount 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.960 of money that is wagered every year gets bigger and bigger. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.400 Only now we have a much better understanding of what 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.520 that money is and where that money is going to realize. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.920 We're catching check because these are done through legal books. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.640 We're not talking offshore. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:05.719 Well that's what I mean. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.320 Really, that's why you need these legal books. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.840 Like Chad saying here, it's like without it, we wouldn't 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.199 catch these people, maybe it'd all be offshore like it 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.560 used to be, and there'd be no stories in the 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.559 news like your naive if you think this is something 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.839 new is what I think we're both saying, RIGHTO. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.240 Right, And but I don't want to turn this into 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:26.600 like advocacy for sports betting, because we are both sort 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.000 of shills in that regard. But I do think that 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.600 back to the player props, that's the biggest challenge. You know, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:36.800 you mentioned a guy is making so much money, why 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.320 would he do it while he's doing it for him? 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.320 I don't know what Terror Razier's financial situation is. I 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.760 don't know who he was doing this for, why he 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.880 was doing it, what the situation was in any capacity. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.520 I do know that Terror Razier is in the last 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.760 year of a four year, ninety six million dollar contract. Yeah, right, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.080 And so he's not Jante Porter. He's not the guy 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.000 who's on a two way at the end of the bench, 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.200 is bouncing around between the G League and the NBA 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:10.000 and maybe fifty thousand dollars as a quick amount of 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.920 cash means something to him. So we don't know what 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.520 it is with Terry Razier. But the premise has always 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.839 been that a lot of these leagues are protected from 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.280 fixing scandals because the amount of money for the people 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.320 who can impact the actual game is so high that 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.000 it won't be worth it for them to get caught 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.880 up in this. But the props change that. The props 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.920 change everything, and I think specifically in the NBA more 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.560 than any other league, it's harder for a running back 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.320 to always be in control of his own destiny because 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.240 he doesn't know how many times he's going to get 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.640 the ball right. That's determined on the situation in the 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.800 flow of the game. Same with baseball, it's really only 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.160 controlled by the pitcher. And we've already seen in the 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.520 case of the Guardians' pitchers who have been suspended under 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:01.080 under investigation how that can be figured out. Because it 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.559 is so egregious that there are monitoring agencies and the 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.320 operators in the leagues that are working together say we've 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:13.160 got some weird activity. We got to flag this. The NBA, anybody, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.359 any individual player, with all the markets that are available, 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.840 as much as they are trying to limit the markets 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.320 that are allowable, especially for end of bench players, that's 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:28.200 an impossible scenario to police. That changes the argument about 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.400 whether or not there is an amount of money that 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.440 would keep people from fixing a game, because it's not 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.880 about the game anymore. It's just about your individual performance. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.960 And even then, it's not about always doing badly. It's 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.880 about just doing badly enough to make it look like 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.280 it's not suspicious. That's the real and city is dangerous. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.600 Part of what we're talking about here is that prop market, 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.080 especially for the NBA. I don't know. I don't know 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:53.720 how they fix it. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.760 I don't know either, but they've been trying for years. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.160 I mean, let's face it, the NBA, this isn't new. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.720 We never talk about it, like the ref between the 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.760 ref scandals, the player scandals. It's it's been there in 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.840 this league for a long time. I mean, the greatest 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.920 player in NBA history had a gambling scandal. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.479 So you know, they're in a really. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.640 Tough spot where whatever it is that nature that it 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.200 goes handing in every sport has its degenerates. I mean, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.720 we had a guy on talking about Pete Rose, some 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.080 amazing stories, but. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.160 It just feels like, as we're going along. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.800 Here chat, it's just of all the leagues I have 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.160 the least amount of trust in right now, obviously air hockey, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.760 you know that whole scandal and all that stuff. Badminton, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.760 we're not talking about. We're talking about the major sports, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.200 NBA of the major sports right now it has My 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.920 eyes are definitely fixed on it, and I have I 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:50.600 just hope this is it. I hope this is the 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.160 end of it, because it's just this could get really bad. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.560 Like we've talked about. We haven't really talked about, but 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.240 it's it's coming pared to a lot of people that 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.080 the NBA hit its peak with Lebron in Golden State 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:04.600 against Steph Curry, right, that. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.040 Was the ratings galore. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.720 The MLB has a real opening here because it's like 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.000 a romantic sadrenal. MB has had a nice re substance 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.720 of coming back to being a major sport. It's biggest 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.080 scandal with its biggest player. It looks like they avoided it, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.840 and it's I don't know about you, but like Otani, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.040 he's the greatest player I've ever seen in my lifetime. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.080 So it's like, I get why they found a way out. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.080 They move bridges to make that work, and like we 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:34.320 always joke, he's one of us. 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:35.320 Like it makes me love. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.640 Them even more knowing the guy's a gambler. But the 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.920 based stuff, it's not funny, it's not cute. This is 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.960 scary stuff. It's within its league with its big players. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.480 Like Chad just said, I didn't know Terry made a 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.200 ninety million That's that's insane amount of money. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.160 Four year, ninety six million dollar deal. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.720 So yeah, it's I'm sure you're gonna get a ton 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.480 of calls over the next week, you'll get more infun of. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.920 But as we said it right now is literally I 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.680 just checked it. It's like NonStop texting right now from 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.480 people in the industry, from people who are just waking 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:16.920 up to this. Uh, they're truly astonished. They're blown away. Look, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:22.439 last I'm a massive NBA fan. I watched League Pass constantly. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:26.080 I was on lead Pass last night. I started with 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.639 the Calves and the Knicks. Then I went over to 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.160 the Bulls. I'm watching the Bulls and the Pistons and 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.720 Adam Amine and Stacy King who are the Bulls play 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:41.200 by play and color commentary. They're brilliant. I love them together. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:42.919 It's It's one of my favorite things is when the 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.000 season starts, it's like it's I did see VJ. Edgecomb 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.320 and dominate it and Tyrese Maxi go for forty. But 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:56.240 and but here, here's my point is, Adam Amine is 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.560 a brilliant play by play guy. And we've seen that season. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.720 He did that fifteen innings Mariner's game, he does NFL, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.919 he does the Bulls play by play. Last night they 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:08.840 were playing the Pistons and they were talking about Ducan 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.880 Robinson and Duncan Robinson has replaced as a three point 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.760 threat Malik Beasley. Malik Beasley, who had a record setting 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.840 year last year, had gotten a new contract from the 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:22.600 Pistons and then he was part of a gambling investigation 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.960 and that contract was pulled and he's still on the 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:33.680 street because the investigation is still happening. And you know, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.280 Adam Amine was doing a brilliant job of explaining what 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:40.720 it is and perfectly threading the needle, not being accusatory, 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.920 not saying anything that was sort of a stretch about 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.159 where the investigation is, but being specific that this was 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:53.879 about prop betting, right, and Malik Beasley no joke. Thirty 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:59.280 seconds after he's done an in game promo for the 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.840 betting spot, answer of the Chicago Bulls in the game 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:07.400 comes up all about live player props. You can be 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.480 betting in the middle of that game. And Adam Amine, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.640 to his credit, did not skip a beat. He did 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:18.200 not try to gloss over it. He acknowledged the irony. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:23.000 He noticed the He called out his producer. He's like, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.120 I can't believe you're doing this right now. It was brilliant. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.760 I kind of feel like that's us right now. There's 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.320 a very serious thing happening, and we obviously have to 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.920 talk about it. And you and I have both been 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:42.040 very lucky and very successful in this particular industry for many, 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.359 many years, both with the show and way beyond this show, 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.560 and we're gonna have a good time talking about these 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.840 NFL games, but it's hard not to acknowledge the serious 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:59.760 nature of what's happening and the ramifications on the industry. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.720 So that's why we're going to keep talking about it 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.399 and keep filing up on what's happening with this investigation. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:12.199 It's crazy. Chauncey Billups terror ra Zero arrested by the 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.720 FBI as part of the legal gambling investigations. Two days 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:21.119 ago or yesterday, the NCBULA passed the law allowing college 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.359 athletes to brett to bet on pro Sports with one 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.200 of the guys who was on the committee that allowed 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.919 it basically saying, we got to acknowledge the universe we 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.720 live in and this is happening, which is how we 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.000 ended up with legalized betting to begin with. And the 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.159 NHL signed deals with multiple prediction market platforms which have 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:43.000 zero regulation. So here's where we are. People are going 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.159 to say there needs to be regulation. People are going 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.160 to sign deals with prediction markets who want to pay 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.879 them a boatload of money that have no regulation. This 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:53.320 is the state the sports betting world that we live in. 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.080 The NFL chugs on and we're going to have to 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.320 figure out how we are telling our audience and what 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:06.600 we like in an upcoming weekend that for our Thursday, 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.359 Week eight episode, we need to narrow down the options 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.200 on our questifying five picks that we can agree on. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:18.400 And I think it's hard because meanwhile, all this head twisting, 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:22.080 mind bending, the Pandora's box is wide freaking open. News 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.639 is happening. And this may be the strangest week for 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.600 betting so far this NFL season because we've got the 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.840 buy to get in, so we don't have a ton 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.000 of games, and the games that are being played. There's 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:36.240 been like half point movements at the most on the 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:38.439 games being played except for one of them. The Chiefs 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.159 have moved two points from ten and a half to 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.159 twelve and a half against the Washington Commanders off of 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:49.520 the confirmation of Jade Daniels. So, man, you know reminder 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.520 subscribe to Sharper Square on YouTube, Apple Pods, Spotify. It 0:21:54.560 --> 0:22:01.240 all sounds silly, ah, Listen every week, Simon. Every week 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.240 we give out our picks, and every single week your 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.840 fellow pro gamblers call to yell at you or compliment 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:13.760 you about the conversations we're having. We're having because we 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.000 know the wise guys are paying attention. It's time to 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.600 summarize those opinions. It's time for sharp calls. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:28.680 Hal to answer this phone, all right, rain range, telephone range. 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.760 Somebody said, maybe want you do man? 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.719 Yeah? And interesting week. I know you didn't love it. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:37.120 I'm on the other side. 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.120 I love these kind of weeks, Like there just feels 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.399 like it's people view it AS's gonna be a boring 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.840 by the book type of week, And all I can 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:45.560 just see is there's there could be a lot of 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.440