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Speaker 2: The White House threatens to veto the Republican Israeli Aid bill,

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Speaker 2: We'll be joined ahead by Bill Hoagland at the Bipartisan

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Speaker 2: Policy Center with analysis from our signature panel. They're with

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Speaker 2: weighing in as well on the latest from Washington and Israel.

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Speaker 2: And Welcome to the Wednesday edition of Bloomberg Sound On.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington, where, of course it's going

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Speaker 2: to be all about the FED, certainly here on Bloomberg

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Speaker 2: starting in about a half hour's time, when we'll bring

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Speaker 2: you our special coverage of the FED meeting. The announcement

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Speaker 2: and the news conference. But we have breaking news on

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Speaker 2: Israel that I want to start with today, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you're with us here on the radio, on the satellite,

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Speaker 2: by searching Bloomberg Global News. The cameras are lit with

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Speaker 2: the headline on the terminal. Biden says some Americans will

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Speaker 2: depart Gaza today. We're just hearing this now from the

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Speaker 2: some of his critics in his own Democratic Party have

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Speaker 2: been looking to see, with much more news coming out

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Speaker 2: of Israel and Washington. Here, the Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, is having lunch today with the Senate Republican Conference.

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Speaker 2: Interesting as we turn to the matter of funding, and

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Speaker 2: moment with Bill Hoagland. We brought this to you yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House wants to split Israel funding from

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Speaker 2: the rest of the supplemental package that the President has

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Speaker 2: could probably tell us by now yourself that was going

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Speaker 2: to include Ukraine, the border in Taiwan. Not so, says

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Speaker 2: the speaker who's going to bring that bill to the

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Speaker 2: to fail, so lawmakers are weighing in now. Republicans say

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Speaker 2: this is a way of keeping the governments from spending

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Speaker 2: And Senator Ben Cardon of Maryland, who's now chair of

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Speaker 3: We need to keep this together because it represents the

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Speaker 3: priorities that need to be done. Now, there are supplemental

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Speaker 3: There's no need for offsets, and we got to get

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Speaker 2: by defunding the IRS.

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Speaker 4: I support defunding the IRS taking that money out of

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Speaker 4: that as a source of payment for the money to Israel.

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure Israel has what they need

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Speaker 2: So there you have it from both sides of the aisle.

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Speaker 2: for armed agents knocking down your door. This is where

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Speaker 2: we start with. Bill Hogan, Senior vice president of the

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Speaker 2: Bipartisan Policy Center, spent many years working on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: Knows how the sausage is made and might be helpful

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Speaker 2: here with a reality check. Bill two questions your thought

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Speaker 2: number one on just putting Israel funding alone on the floor,

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for having me, Joe. Again, this is

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Speaker 5: So I think this is an unfortunate situation. Literally, as

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Speaker 5: So I think we'll get over this. And as you

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Speaker 5: This is an emergency. In the past, when we've had emergencies, yes,

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Speaker 5: we don't usually offset let's say disaster spending. And I

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we're probably headed toward a situation Joe

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Speaker 5: as we keep remembering that the President's request does also

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Speaker 5: But I hope that we can get over this and

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Speaker 2: I want you to picture this as we understand. The

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Speaker 5: Well, we always have the policy lunches, and I'm not there.

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned you mentioned the word that I might

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the Speaker had made it very clear

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Speaker 5: they have passed. They still have seven bills to do,

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Speaker 5: They'll have to go to conference and work this out.

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Speaker 5: But I see they are working their best just to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always great to spend time with you, Bill.

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Speaker 2: Bill Hoaglan, Bipartisan Policy Centers, Senior Vice President, one of

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Speaker 2: our next door neighbors. Almost here in downtown Washington. Great

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Speaker 2: to see you, Bill as we assemble our panel today.

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Speaker 2: Rick Davis and Jeanie Shanzano are back together Bloomberg Politics contributors.

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Speaker 2: Ricky sounds kind of like, you don't ask me about

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Speaker 7: You hope it is soon. You know, he just hasn't

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Speaker 2: Been a hiring spree in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about that. We just heard from him

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Speaker 2: We just heard from the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Only in Washington, when you cut spending do they call

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Speaker 2: Only in Washington, when you cut spending do they call

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Speaker 2: The math is difficult to argue with here, Rick, am

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Speaker 2: But then there's reality, right, Genie.

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Speaker 2: His time in the barrel? Genie. How long is it

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Speaker 7: You know, I think it will, it will last. I

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Speaker 7: what he's done? All of that is fair game. All

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Speaker 7: I think that's fair game. He's the one who led

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Speaker 2: Well. When you go big picture, Rick, and you look

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Speaker 6: That's what they want point. But everybody else is like

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Speaker 6: But I would say, you know, shoot your bullets on

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Speaker 2: State doesn't make much sense. If they think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be Trump, they ought to be shooting at him.

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Speaker 2: How about that. Rick Davis and Geenie Shan say, No,

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Speaker 2: up here, and I want to thank you both for

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