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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September fifth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number thirty two. Welcome to another edition and the very

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Speaker 1: first edition of the two thousand and seventeen season. It

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Speaker 1: is The Break. I'm Derek Eaglesons joined by Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: Dial Let's let him go? How let him go? Dave?

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Speaker 1: How many firsts do you have in a given year?

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Speaker 1: This will be the first of the actual like it's

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Speaker 1: week one, so this is the first yea of all,

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Speaker 1: Like the regular season? Yeah, right, the regular season starting today? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: We changed as of today, right? Changed the roster enough

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Speaker 1: anything like that, or yeah we didn't. I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: make a trade. I'm talking about us four. Well, we

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Speaker 1: get we've made a few changes. We started off and

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Speaker 1: Amber joined the show. You joined the show. You were

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Speaker 1: not a regular, Yeah, but we've been still. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're gonna be a regular been doing this

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Speaker 1: for six weeks regular. All right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: thank you whatever? All right? What like? Yeah? Seriously? All right,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk some Cowboys football. There's been a lot

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Speaker 1: that's happened since the last time we were on the air.

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Speaker 1: It's good holiday weekend, good Labor Day weekend, but there

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Speaker 1: are lots of changes that happened on this team over

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Speaker 1: that weekend. Cowboys cut down to fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: then made a couple of other moves. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into that and talk about some of the guys that

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Speaker 1: released and supposedly is back, and I'm sure Nick has

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about that. We'll talk to Kellen

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Speaker 1: but before we get to that, we do need to

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Ezekiel Elliott right now. There

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Speaker 1: have been a few developments in that whole situation. We're

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Speaker 1: still waiting on the results of the appeal which happened

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Speaker 1: last week. There's suspicion that maybe comes out today from

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Speaker 1: what I understand, and you guys can correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. From what I understand, if there isn't a

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Speaker 1: result on the appeal that's issued by this afternoon, then

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Speaker 1: Zeke is allowed to play this week. That accurate. That

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Speaker 1: is not detailed in writing anywhere in the CBA. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have talked to several people, and the best that

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Speaker 1: an unwritten rule that the league's not going to do

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Speaker 1: it comes to high profile running back who's in this

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, take it for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it out there a million times. As far

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Speaker 1: it is now suspended. But I really believe that if

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. That's why I like every time

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Speaker 1: from an outsider's perspective, it seems like Zeke has both

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Speaker 1: of those things, just based on what we've heard about

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Speaker 1: just because we need to be fair and how we

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Speaker 1: look at this right, right, But I just everybody has

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to watch the preseason games like we did.

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Speaker 1: There was absolutely nothing that he did in the preseason

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Speaker 1: that would want another team to say, you know what, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not very he's not very big. They doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a good arm. He's never won a game in this league,

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Speaker 1: but he had a pretty good one though. Huh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that this preseason was I mean, I don't I

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Speaker 1: just don't get it. They had opportunity. Don't come back

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Speaker 1: now and tell us that you really like Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: when he was the guy that you put it out

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Speaker 1: in the rain. I just don't agree. I I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a redundant and I'm gonna write about

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Speaker 1: this later this week too, but I'll keep saying Kellen Moore,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like Alfred Morris. I use the word redundant.

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris is redundant. He doesn't really serve a different

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Speaker 1: purpose in your running back group. The main reason he's

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Speaker 1: here is because you don't know what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: with Zeke, and that's why he fits. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem with him being here because he's a great

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Speaker 1: insurance polity policy. Kellen Moore is redundant because he's a young,

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Speaker 1: unproven quarterback who has never won a game in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: As as Nick said, you don't really know if he

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Speaker 1: can do it. You don't know how good you feel

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Speaker 1: about him doing it for an extended stretch of time.

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Speaker 1: I just described Cooper Rush too, but there's a there

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Speaker 1: is a difference from the standpoint that they feel like

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Speaker 1: he understands the offense better than Cooper rushed correct and

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Speaker 1: they feel like although he doesn't have the experience on

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Speaker 1: like in game experience, he does have more experience in

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Speaker 1: the NFL than a Cooper Rush, right, Okay, but he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have anywhere near as much experience in the NFL

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Speaker 1: as Dak Prescott, which the backup is supposed to help

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Speaker 1: the starter, Which is the second half of my argument

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Speaker 1: is that if you're dead set on keeping three quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I would rather have Luke McCown because he's been in

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Speaker 1: the league for fifteen freaking years. He's shared a room

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Speaker 1: with Drew Brees and whatever other good NFL quarterbacks. He's

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Speaker 1: just by virtue of being around seeing things that Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott hasn't seen. He's way more and has just been

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Speaker 1: just a few games just as a little game experience,

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Speaker 1: and five times as many wins because he's at least

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Speaker 1: one five or six games as an NFL starter, and

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Speaker 1: the last time he started, he threw for three hundred

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Speaker 1: yards against the team that wound up losing the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So I trust that he can handle it way more

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Speaker 1: than I trust that Kellen Moore can. And he offers

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Speaker 1: a perspective that Dak Prescott doesn't have whereat like Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 1: If I was Dak and Kellen was trying to like

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Speaker 1: teach me, so I'd be like, dude, I've won thirteen

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Speaker 1: games out here, Okay, We're fine. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: dis best year Luke McCown last time he started three

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Speaker 1: hundred yards because then they have to acknowledge that the

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Speaker 1: last time Kellen Moore started, he went for four hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty or something that I would have I can't

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Speaker 1: believe I'm about to say this, but I would have

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Speaker 1: rather the Cowboys signed Brandon Wheaton as the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He was just he's available. Yeah, I think he would

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Speaker 1: have been. He is a better backup quarterback than Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 1: I do, Okay, maybe actually I kind of agree with

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the roster final cuts. We got down

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Speaker 1: to we were talking about the quarterback position, and just

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Speaker 1: before we ended for our first break, Amber had a

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Speaker 1: great point she wanted to throw out there. I don't

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Speaker 1: just trying to find different ways around this and kind

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Speaker 1: of comprehend what the Cowboys are doing here. And maybe,

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Speaker 1: and just maybe Kellen Moore is that guy that kind

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Speaker 1: of serves how Mark Sanchez was last year to Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: the guy that kind of well, Mark Sanchez didn't know

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Speaker 1: this offense. But Kellen Moore has a time that he's

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Speaker 1: been here, he knows this offense very well, and he

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Speaker 1: can be that guy that possibly is the one that

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Speaker 1: is helping out these other guys. I've been on the

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Speaker 1: sideline and I've watched them how Callen Moore is always

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Speaker 1: helping Dak Prescott and even Cooper Rush. And everyone would think,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, he hates Cooper Rush because of everything,

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Speaker 1: how he's beating him out of the field, But he

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Speaker 1: has been there. He has been kind of teaching them

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Speaker 1: and showing them the iPad and do this or do that,

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Speaker 1: or look at this play or whatever. Maybe we don't

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Speaker 1: know as much obviously as they do. And he might

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Speaker 1: have another purpose here aside from being the backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: to help out when Dak can't be on the team.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he helps out in other ways. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: why he's here. That's why the Cowboys are willing to

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Speaker 1: go along with this is because that's the role that

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Speaker 1: he feels. He's been with Scotland Hans since twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: He knows what he's talking about and regarded this offense honestly.

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Speaker 1: Despite the fact that he was on injured reserve, he

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Speaker 1: was he was far more helpful to Dak Prescott last

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Speaker 1: year than Tony Romo was. I feel comfortable saying that

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Speaker 1: he did advance scouting. He was basically an extra member

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Speaker 1: of the coaching staff, which I've seen no shortage of

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Speaker 1: people suggest that maybe that's just what he should do

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Speaker 1: instead of being backup quarterback. But I think you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is a preseason storyline.

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Speaker 1: I don't anticipate that Dak Prescott's gonna get hurt and

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Speaker 1: missed too much time knock on wood, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's probably their attitude as well. He's twenty three, he's

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Speaker 1: built like an ox. As I've said, he's I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're worried about it the way they were worried

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Speaker 1: about Tony Romo, so you know, they get along. Kella

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Speaker 1: Moore can help him out. Kella Moore knows a lot

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Speaker 1: about what he's looking at in regard to the offense,

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Speaker 1: And what you just said is exactly why the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are going along with this. So if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: a rational argument for why this is the case, that's it,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I actually I agree with you, Amber,

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Speaker 1: and I'd take it one step further. And I know

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Speaker 1: we talked about this couple weeks ago, and I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of going back on what I thought back then. I'm

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Speaker 1: not convinced that if if Dak knockling Wood does go down,

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Speaker 1: does go down for an extended period of time, that

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Speaker 1: that Kellen would be the guy that they'd want to

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Speaker 1: an extended period of time, maybe they go with Rush

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Speaker 1: we still have more there. Who can be the whisper,

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Speaker 1: who can be the guy that's on the sideline giving

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Speaker 1: him the kind of feedback that we want him to

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Speaker 1: have during the game. Um, Now, if we have a

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Speaker 1: short term thing, maybe we go with the guy with

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Speaker 1: a little more experience. But if it's a longer term thing,

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Speaker 1: maybe we go with the guy that we think is

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Speaker 1: better but just doesn't have the experience and we'll just

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Speaker 1: have to move along with the difference will probably be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what their record is, and what they how

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Speaker 1: much part of the season has left, and do they

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Speaker 1: think it's solvageable and if there anybody else that's out

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Speaker 1: there that they can get and you know what's it's

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Speaker 1: Tony in shape. I mean, just all those those questions

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Speaker 1: you've got to ask yourself. He looks like he is

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Speaker 1: just based on you know, seeing him on team. You know,

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Speaker 1: so I agree with that. I agree with what Kellen

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Speaker 1: But if that's the case, then then I agree with

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Speaker 1: deal in place, And I don't know if that's even

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Speaker 1: we'll put you out there, but you know, keep your

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Speaker 1: phone by you unless unless one of the other teams called,

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Speaker 1: then then you can like ignore that call because we'll

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Speaker 1: be calling you back. I'm excited for Sunday because we

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Speaker 1: can just talk about the starting quarterback exactly. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Rico Gather situation is good. I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: smart deal for the Cowboys either. That's why I think

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Speaker 1: this whole thing kind of reeks, because he needs to

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Speaker 1: if you if you really like him and you want

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Speaker 1: him to continue to and grow, then he didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: play him and practice him for sure. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring that up, and it kind of got lost in

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Speaker 1: the shuffle, which I agree with you. If he's if

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Speaker 1: he's good to go, he needs practice more than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to say we don't know for sure,

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Speaker 1: and no two concussions are created equal. Like I mentioned

642
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: on Sidney Crosby was out for like months and months

643
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: with a concussion that he couldn't podcast, and it's you know,

644
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: I know, but it's still I'm just selling for fans

645
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: out there listening. It might not know the name right,

646
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: but you know it's no, those two things aren't created equal.

647
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the rant I always have

648
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: about you know, people look at football players is like

649
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: they're on Madden and it's like, Okay, concussion, that's one

650
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: week and then you're back out there. It's not the

651
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: way it works. I mean, and it was a nasty

652
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: hit that he took, so he might still be having

653
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: trouble getting over this for all we know. And if

654
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: he really is still messed up, then he doesn't need

655
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: to be practicing. He needs to be resting because that's

656
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: his life basically. And if there were gonna be let's

657
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: say two more weeks to this injury, that means really,

658
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: it was only four weeks that you're giving up of practice.

659
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: And be honest with you right now, I don't think he.

660
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he. I think he's probably an active

661
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: if you were out I instant the practice side of it.

662
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: But they look at it and they say, let's assume

663
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: it's four to six weeks of mispractice time. Does that

664
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: really set him back? You know, maybe it doesn't. Maybe

665
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't if you can then get him back after

666
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: that time, he starts back practicing and maybe by the

667
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: end of the season he's able to contribute something. Most

668
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: likely it's probably not contributing anything for the rest of

669
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: this year. Really, again, you're working. You're just trying to

670
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: get him time, reps in practice to get him ready

671
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: for hopefully next year, to be able to I don't

672
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: agree with you, Nick. I mean, I don't mind them

673
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: making this move, and just for this reason. Although he

674
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: had a great preseason, he was doing wonderful and I

675
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: really don't think he was going to contribute that much anyways.

676
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: And yes, he should be practicing, and he should not

677
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: have that stop and kind of let the rhythm end

678
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: and just kind of, you know, it is good to

679
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: kind of keep it going. But either way, I don't

680
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: think he would have done much anyways. Well, I agree

681
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: he was going to be an act of every game,

682
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: but I just think that that's I mean, it affects

683
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: him if that's something like eighteen or twenty practices that

684
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: don't miss out. I think what I've been saying all along.

685
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: I think I said this three to four weeks ago.

686
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore should be on your practice squad, like he

687
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: should be your practice squad quarterback. Nobody's taking him, No

688
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: one's gonna poach him off and put him on their team, clearly,

689
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: so put him on your practice squad. Why does he

690
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: have to be on the fifty three. If Dad gets

691
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: hurt in a game, knock on wood, Cooper Rush is

692
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to go in there and finish the game.

693
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be it's gonna be tough either way,

694
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: So let him be your third quarterback. But isn't there

695
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: that side of this that we don't know? If there

696
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: were teams that were possibly interested in signing him and

697
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: he wanted to come back to the Cowboys, that's what

698
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: we don't know. And if that's the case, you put

699
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad. There is no guarantee he's

700
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: not gonna go somewhere else, right, Well, I mean they

701
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: did it with Rico. You can do the same thing.

702
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: You know, you can pay Rico. Rico made first year

703
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: salary last year and instead of the practice squad for

704
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: that got so you can make the money make yeah,

705
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: you could. I think he's eligible for the practice squad.

706
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I would just put him on the practice squad to

707
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: be honest with you. All Right, let's move on. Let's

708
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the defensive line. They were

709
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: table moves and sending him on the road, make sure

710
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: he comes every game. There were a couple moves that

711
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: the Cowboys made on the defensive line that I thought

712
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: were interesting and worth noting. Uh they acquired Brian price

713
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: Um as a defensive tackle. They also released Cedric Thornton,

714
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: which last week when we were talking about the team,

715
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: we assumed he was going to make the team, But

716
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, if you go back through

717
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: training camp, he was he was injured some of it UM,

718
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think he necessarily turned a lot of

719
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: heads and made anybody feel like, hey, he's a guy

720
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: that's important. Stephen Piatt came in basically take the job

721
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: as a starter when they were expecting. I think that

722
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: Cedric Thornton was going to be the starter. You know.

723
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: We did a show UM on Friday night and Brian hosted,

724
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I brought us hosted. It was projecting the fifty three

725
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: the way. I wish we would have had a little

726
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: bit longer time for that to be up, because yeah,

727
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was really interesting. But when when when

728
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: thor his name came up, Dave, you remember there was

729
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: a slight pause and everybody else like lock, yeah, lock,

730
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: lock it in Pia and it was Thornton's name. It

731
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a pause. I was like, yeah, yeah,

732
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot, yeah, yeah, go ahead, don't lock it just

733
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: kind of leaked the lock kind of open. We've talked

734
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: about him on the show before and I think somebody

735
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: maybe even called in when we were in Oxnard and

736
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: asked about him being cut, and it was always I

737
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be cut because they don't want to

738
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: eat that money. It was never like it was never

739
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: like he's just you gotta have him. It was like, well,

740
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: they'll owe him this and then there's just dead money

741
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: on their cap, and I don't see him doing that.

742
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: And clearly, you know, yeah, I would have said he underperformed,

743
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: and think anybody would, but I'm still relatively surprised that

744
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: they thought he was so bad that they didn't mind

745
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: eating that money. So explain the money situation. How much

746
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: did the Cowboys give up and dead money? How much

747
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: was he's he gonna be counting this year and money

748
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: that they're gonna that's gonna hit the cap? How much

749
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: was guaranteed him? What's the money situation of this move?

750
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: So it was a four year seven nineteen eighteen million

751
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: dollars deal. He had three million coming to him this

752
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: year that there was guaranteed that they're just going to eat,

753
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: and then I think it drops down to to something

754
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: next year. Now there is some offset language in there

755
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: that if he does sign right another team. But if

756
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: he's not, he's not going to sign with anything major.

757
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: They will make up the difference between just like the

758
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: Browns and Osweiler with Denver, they will make up the

759
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: difference between whatever he signs for. So I don't know.

760
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's clearly not going to sign for as

761
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: much as he signed here, but you would assume even

762
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: if he's making vet minimum, that'll take a you know,

763
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: roughly a million off the cost. But he is he

764
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: that that a player where you're willing to eat three

765
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: million dollars for him, not tet. I didn't think so.

766
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: I didn't think so either, And I was like, great,

767
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: he'll be your third or fourth tackle. He'll he won't

768
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: be first on the field. He'll you know, he's mainly

769
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: a run stuffer, not great, but you play this year

770
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: and even you know next year. Contracts always, the way

771
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: they structured contracts, they always become more palatable after the

772
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: second year. So you wouldn't have surprised me at all

773
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: to see him be a free agency time cut next year.

774
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: But even right now, I'm kind of surprised that they

775
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: were like, nope, we just were ready to go a

776
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. You got to do one of two things,

777
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: and if you can do both, then you're going to

778
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: be a pro bowler. But you've got to be You've

779
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: got to hold up in the run. You've got to

780
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: fill those gaps, and you've got to take on double

781
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: teams and not get blown off the ball. You got

782
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: to show you know, some some of that that size

783
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: and strength, or you've got to get up the field

784
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: quickly and get to the quarterback and shared the blocks,

785
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and be disruptive. Yeah, make plays if you

786
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: can do both, and you really are a good player.

787
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: And Malie Collins is looking like he could maybe be both.

788
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: But Thornton was neither. He really wasn't. He wasn't a

789
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: guy that you thought was really quick and was making

790
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: plays behind the line of scrimmage. And he wasn't a

791
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: guy that was just kind of man handling the gardens

792
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: center and all that. So he was kind of just

793
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: a guy and just the guy making a lot of money.

794
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: But it's still prising though, it's still surprising to say, hey,

795
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay this money to go. So so with

796
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: that being said, I don't think any of us necessarily

797
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: think that was or understand that move. Does that say

798
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: more about Brian Price and maybe what he is, because

799
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna have both of them. You're not gonna

800
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: keep four defensive tackles on this team. So does that

801
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe suggest that they feel like he really adds something

802
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: significant to their rotation? There for them to say, we'll

803
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: pay three million for you to go at us to

804
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: be able to replace you with this guy, it has

805
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: to be that way. I mean, otherwise it definitely it

806
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me why

807
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: they made this move in the first place. But they

808
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: know more than I do, so I'm sure they see

809
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: something in Price. Then Yeah, I don't think it's so

810
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: much about price. I think it's the price was better.

811
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: You know, somebody was just better than him, and so

812
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: who's it gonna be? Well, it was this guy. But

813
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: is he that much better though? No, I mean he

814
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: can't be much better. This has to be more about

815
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Thornton being off the team. Off the team. It's not

816
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: like we gotta get priced, gotta get pricefell who were

817
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 1: gonna cut price for? I guess Thornton, And we're gonna

818
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: move Thornton. But he could be a better fit, like,

819
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: for example, I think Pie as an example of that,

820
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: nobody said in the offseason, this is the greatest free

821
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: agent signing. However, he got here and you start seeing

822
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: him in this system and saying, wow, this guy's pretty

823
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: good in this system, right, I think it would be

824
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: disingenuous to try to convince anybody that a guy that

825
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: was part of somebody else's roster cuts is like this

826
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: massive upgrade that you need to be doing cartwheels about.

827
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he turns out to be a great player,

828
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: but and well, that's the thing, and that's that goes

829
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: to Knick's first point. Right, if you go back and

830
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: we talked about this too, you kind of had a

831
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: like a side eye glance at Richard ashe because he

832
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: is a completely different defensive tackle than any of the

833
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: other ones that they have on the roster. He's just

834
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: a big guy. It's hard to move, probably not going

835
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: to generate a ton of pass rush, but he can

836
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: clog up the line, and that's what Brian Price appears

837
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: to be even more so. Honestly, he's six three three twenty,

838
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: so he's I don't know for sure, but I think

839
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: he's the biggest one tech that they've had here. Oh yeah,

840
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and how much does Rod Marinelli love those guys.

841
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: He loved Nick Hayden. Nick Hayden was Kellen Moore before

842
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Nobody understood why he was here, but Rob

843
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Marinelli loved him and he did a job. So you know,

844
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and try to tell you

845
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: that Brian Price is like the man, but he I

846
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: think can be a better nose tackle than anybody else

847
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: on this roster. Because that was the problem with Thornton.

848
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: He was never going to beat out Malik to be

849
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: the three technique obviously, and same thing with Paia. Pie

850
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: is so good at generating pressure, but he was a

851
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: three four end moving into this system and he wasn't

852
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: sturdy enough to really be that space eater that you want,

853
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,279
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're in the final segment of the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us. It was fun. This

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913
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Speaker 1: and this week one. So starting tomorrow, as we those

914
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915
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Speaker 1: even though Dave and Amber are new to the show,

916
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Speaker 1: we're not going to change what we do. So this year,

917
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Speaker 1: as we do every every year, on Wednesdays and Thursdays,

918
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: will really dive deep into the game. Talk about the

919
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: other team, their offense, their defense. Give you guys an

920
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: idea of what we can expect as far as matchups

921
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: on either side. Um, and so Dave be ready. You know,

922
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I've been doing this show with Brian more than Dave does.

923
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: She actually does, so she's probably we're going to add

924
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Speaker 1: a little more to this conversation than Dave will. I've

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Speaker 1: been doing this show with regularity for like three or

926
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Speaker 1: four years, like I know, I don't know if it's regularity,

927
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Speaker 1: maybe once a month regular and regular know how the

928
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Speaker 1: routine works. Okay, So all right, well good, so we're

929
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: ready to go tomorrow we'll jump into that. We'll probably

930
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: jump into the into the Giants maybe the Giants offense

931
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys defense tomorrow and then flip it for

932
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: the next day. All right, let's get into I did

933
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of other acquisitions Cowboys made.

934
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: They acquired linebacker Jerome Elliott, and he was a The

935
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: interesting thing about this was he was a three four

936
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: linebacker with the Green Bay Packers outside linebacker. What does

937
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: that fit on this Cowboys because you would think, okay,

938
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: this has to be a move to making a move

939
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: to be able to help them with the loss of

940
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Speaker 1: Hitchens for whatever period of time, that's gonna be. But

941
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: how does an outside three four linebacker fit in a

942
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: four three defensive with the Cowboys? Well, I think that

943
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: where they're gonna play him as mainly if you if

944
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: you watch some of the highlights on him, he's tackling

945
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: the punt turner a lot, So they're gonna play him

946
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: a lot on special teams. Um, if they needed to

947
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: be in a situation where that he needed to rush

948
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: the pastor he probably may probably would be better than

949
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Wilbert as a defensive end to do that in

950
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: a in a third and twelve situation, if you need

951
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: to to have a guy that can just get off

952
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: the edge, because when when you're new to the team,

953
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of the concepts you need to

954
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: learn there. I mean, there's your guy, there's the tackle,

955
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: get around him and get to the quarterback. I mean,

956
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: and then from a special team standpoint, I think that's

957
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: what they'll use him. He was just a better option

958
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: than Mark Nazacha at this point. Oh, I think they're

959
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: trying to get back, trying to get back to practice, practice,

960
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: squad not official yet. Um, I think he's been claimed.

961
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: Jay Ron Elliott has Kyle Wilburt right now over him.

962
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Really yeah, absolutely. I mean he's a little bit bigger,

963
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 1: and I think he's more athletic. But I think Wilbur's

964
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: finally at a point where obviously he makes his money

965
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: on special teams, but he's slimmed down enough to where

966
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes a lot of sense to

967
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: use him as a pass rusher. But Elliott can, He

968
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: could probably, he could probably play sam if you need

969
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: him to. He could probably play in if you needed

970
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: him to. And he's gonna play like four special teams.

971
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: So he's just kind of that jack of all trades

972
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: help us get through this stretch where we're down a linebacker. Basically,

973
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna win somebody some money too. If they

974
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: bet you know that Elliott would play a week one

975
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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys roster, make sure you specify kids. One

976
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: more player that Cowboys acquired, cornerback ben A ben Wickery

977
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: they traded for him. Um tell me what he what

978
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: he adds to the group, because I know that there

979
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: are obviously there's a lot of any problems for our

980
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: pa announcer in the booth, that's gonna be a big problem.

981
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: But when, but when you look at it from the

982
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: standpoint of the experienced level of the depth at the

983
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: cornerback position. Um, it seems like this move was made

984
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: for the purposes of being able to add a little

985
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: more experience to that to that depth. You guys agree

986
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: with that, We don't know for sure that should have

987
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: be a Woozier and Jordan Lewis are even going to

988
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: play they I mean they had very limited camps Lewis

989
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: and didn't have one at all, so you know, if

990
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: they're active, they're probably not gonna be able to do

991
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: a lot, and it's probably going to take them weeks

992
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: with an S to really get up to speed where

993
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: you can expect them to play like the highly touted

994
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: draft picks that they are. So you trade away a

995
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: not very valuable conditional draft pick. I think it's very interesting.

996
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't remember off the top of my head, but

997
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: he has to be on the forty six for X

998
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: amount of weeks for the pick to even qualify. So

999
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you use him for two weeks and

1000
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: then Cheeto and Jordan look great and you cut him,

1001
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: then you didn't give up anything to get him. I

1002
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: think that's worth noting. So and that's Brian uses the

1003
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: term bridge player all the time. This is a bridge

1004
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: player over a very short span. I mean, maybe he'll

1005
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: be fantastic and have a longer term future here, but

1006
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: this is to help you get through this month or

1007
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: so where your rookies maybe aren't quite ready to play.

1008
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's take some calls. You guys can call

1009
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Speaker 1: us the numbers two, one, four, eight seven two twenty

1010
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Speaker 1: one oh two. You can call us about questions you

1011
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: may have, or if you have an opinion about the roster,

1012
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: the final roster, or at least the final roster as

1013
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: of now, make sure you give us a call again

1014
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: the number two, one, four, eight seven two twenty one

1015
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: oh two. We can also take questions on Twitter at

1016
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys Break and but let's start with the question from Twitter.

1017
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: Chicano ask, I have a question, how come we switched

1018
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: from a three to four to a four three? For

1019
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: some reason? I felt like our defense was more aggressive

1020
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: in a three four, and they haven't played a three.

1021
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: I didn't cover this team last time they played three four.

1022
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: They've been in Rod's scheme since since I started. So

1023
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, Nick, what do you think? I mean?

1024
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: It's all about the personnel that you have, and that

1025
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: was about the time when they were losing the Marcus

1026
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: ware and Anthony Spencer off the edge, they had some

1027
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: of the bigger ends, I guess, but I mean it

1028
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: was it was more about, let's let's switch this up

1029
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: a little bit from Rob Ryan's defense and to get

1030
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: something different. We had a chance to get Monty Kiffin

1031
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: came in and then obviously Rod Marinelli and those two guys,

1032
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what they played. Was the was

1033
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: the four to three. So we talked about that actually

1034
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: in the UM press box. Was it last game you

1035
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: ask me? I kind of asked you the question of like,

1036
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: how many players do you think it would take for

1037
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to make that switch? Um, well, the only

1038
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: thing I really like is having Jalen Samith and Sean

1039
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: Lee in the middle of a three four I think

1040
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: that would be pretty good. Other than that, I don't

1041
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: have any honestly, don't have an outside linebacker. That's the

1042
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: thing the most in my opinion, one of the most

1043
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: important things of a three four defense is you need

1044
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: to have that guy screaming around the edge, and I

1045
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: don't don't have it. I know you don't have it.

1046
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: I was about say, I don't think you have it.

1047
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: I know you don't have that guy, Like, you don't

1048
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: have a DeMarcus Sware type guy who can also maybe

1049
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: drop back in coverage or play the flat or just

1050
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: have the athletic ability to play that way. The personnel

1051
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: that they have on hand would be so screwed if

1052
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: they tried to play three four right now. I don't

1053
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: have anybody. They don't. Actually, you know who would be

1054
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: awesome in a three four Lee Collins at the end, No,

1055
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, Oh yeah, if he get on the field,

1056
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: that yeah, good question, So it would I. I mean,

1057
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: I like the three four because it allows you to

1058
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: be super versatile, and I think it's easier to find

1059
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: pass rushers for a three four. But at this point,

1060
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: for the time being, at least you're kind of committed

1061
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: to it. And I like, I like this defense when

1062
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: you've got the pieces that you need to run it

1063
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: well on't. I mean, my favorite defense if recent memory

1064
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: was this defense in Chicago, And like, when you've got

1065
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: the guys who can do it, it's pretty good. Chun

1066
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: Lee has been healthier in this defense to playing the

1067
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: weak side as well than playing right there. In the middle.

1068
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: But I do think having him and Jaylen Smith they

1069
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: would be really good, but subject to more injury. You

1070
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: don't have the big defensive tackle either, and you don't

1071
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: have you don't have big defense big linebackers. You need

1072
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: bigger linebackers a lot of times. I know when Bill

1073
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: Parcel's got here and he switched, one of the things

1074
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: he always talked about was like, you know, these linebackers

1075
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: aren't really big. At the time, I think it was,

1076
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: and they they proved to be better than they but

1077
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: he also said that they were special players, like from

1078
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: the stay point that most guys that size cannot pull

1079
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: it off. He didn't think that Win was going to

1080
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: be able to pull it off like he did Um

1081
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: and Kakeley, right, But but I do think that you

1082
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: need you probably want bigger linebackers than what you have

1083
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: right now. Is only really the guy, right Janala Smith

1084
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: is really the only guy at linebacker position that's probably

1085
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: big enough to play at middle linebacker in a three four.

1086
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: I would hate it for Malie Collins if he got

1087
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: switched into a three four though. That's the other thing

1088
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: is I mean, you can make a difference there if

1089
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: you're a good player. Think about J. J. Watt, You

1090
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: can't defensive end. That's about the only guy. But there

1091
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: was a guy from Pittsburgh, yeah years ago. Was no

1092
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about was his name? It wasn't Aaron Schobel.

1093
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: It was it was a white guy. That's why I

1094
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: was thinking Aaron Schobel. But Ki Kissel was a defensive end.

1095
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: But there was another guy too. I thought that was

1096
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: pretty good at defensive end. That was kind of a

1097
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: difference may Maker type player. But it also depends on

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00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: what kind of three four you're talking about. Like Bill

1099
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Street four defensive end. All you're gonna do is take

1100
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: on blocks and then decide whether you go on one

1101
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: way or the other. You know, in Wades, the three

1102
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: four defensive ends expect to get up feel. So it's

1103
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: a little different depending on what kind of three four

1104
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: you talking about. With the resources that they've sunk into

1105
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: running this defense, I think it would be a mistake

1106
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: any right now. I agree. I mean, Malik is just

1107
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: starting out on his deal. You just drafted Taco, who

1108
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: would be I don't like the thought of him. You

1109
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: don't think Taco would be good as a stand up

1110
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: guy on the outside. Maybe maybe he could be good

1111
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: as a three four end. He'd be an end. Yeah,

1112
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: him and him and David Irving would be the three

1113
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: four end. Don't think he's athletic enough to play d

1114
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: You know what's you say? All this and we're wasting

1115
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: time talking about something that's not going to happen. But

1116
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: like you never thought Jay Ratloff would be a good

1117
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: defensive tackle in the in three four and he put

1118
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: or hold up for the Pro Bowl four years in

1119
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: a row. All right, let's go. Let's get a phone call.

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00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: We got a call from Johnny in North Carolina. Johnny,

1121
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: what up? What's going on? How are you doing today?

1122
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing good work right now? Um?

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00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: Quick question? Do you think Jeff he will start or

1124
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: do you think Xaviel would? Because I got my Ireland

1125
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: Woods David Helman, what's going on? Man? It's my second

1126
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: time talking to you. Hey, what's going on? Dude? There's

1127
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: not much from you? Hey, stay strong against Brian broadest Man.

1128
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: He's a tough cookie. Ah, he's a big teddy bear. Okay,

1129
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: appreciate that, but yeah, that's my question. All right, thanks

1130
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: for the call. Well, just keep watching the sidelines because

1131
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: that's where Xavier Woods is going to be. You get

1132
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: your eye on him this game. I mean, Jeff Heath

1133
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: is gonna start, but this game, yes, go ahead. Xavier

1134
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: Woods will probably play special teams. Do you think he'll

1135
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: be inactive? We kind of got into an argument about that.

1136
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Brian made the astute observation that they

1137
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: preferred address all four safeties. That's about say, you can

1138
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: play special teams, and again, I think you want to

1139
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: use probably three, if not four safeties in your different

1140
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: sub packages and stuff. So I'm not gonna be surprised

1141
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: to see him on the field at some point. But

1142
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath is going to start at safety. Do you

1143
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: think that that changes at some point this season? I'm

1144
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: if he gives up him seventy three yard touchdown to

1145
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, Larry Fitzgerald or something in Week three and

1146
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: he hasn't played well the first two games, Yeah, you

1147
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: could make a change if if you feel like, you know,

1148
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: you feel like these guys are better. I think that

1149
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna be better though. I think he's gonna be

1150
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: better than the other two. Yeah, he's gonna be in position.

1151
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: See and people just they don't really think he's that

1152
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: great of an athlete, but he's one of the better

1153
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: athletes on the team, So you can just kind of

1154
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: take that stereotype and put it over there that that's

1155
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: not the case. And he is around the ball. He

1156
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: makes more plays than these other guys probably in the

1157
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: secondary have made combined. I bet he's had the ball

1158
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: in his hand twice as much as Orlando Scandrick. Ever,

1159
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: that's probably fair. So I it's the same thing I

1160
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: keep saying. Jeff Heath is gonna get credit on the

1161
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,959
Speaker 1: stat sheet for sixteen starts as long as he's healthy.

1162
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: I think that. But Woods and Cavan will have their

1163
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: role to play, and they'll rotate him in, and they'll

1164
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: have three safeties on the field at certain times, and

1165
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: those guys will probably finish with, you know, thirty or

1166
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: thirty five tackles and maybe even make some plays. But

1167
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: when you look at the stat sheet, that says, you know,

1168
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: when they run the intro at the beginning of the game,

1169
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath will be the starter. All right, let's take

1170
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: another question from Twitter. Well, I'm seeing a lot of

1171
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: questions about the defense, and we are already in week one.

1172
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: How are you guys feeling about the defense overall, just

1173
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: in general at this point, I hold my breath a

1174
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, they got you gotta get the

1175
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: Giants coming in, and it doesn't really matter if if

1176
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it does matter if Odell Beckham plays the game.

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00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: But I do think that they're going to be I've

1178
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: seen Eli Manning come in with a lot less uh

1179
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, weapons on offense and still do well. He

1180
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: plays well there. The Cowboys Giants always will have these

1181
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: these interesting games. Sometimes they're shootouts, sometimes they're low scoring,

1182
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: but they're always gonna be good games. And I just

1183
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: think that, you know, with the suspensions that you have

1184
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: on defense, you have some injuries, you have concerns with

1185
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: the corners and with Crawford, I think you hold your

1186
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 1: breath a little bit there on defense. Yeah, Hitchens, sorry

1187
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: I forgot Hitchens. That's a big injury. Yeah, I think

1188
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: that's a huge injury. But I don't think I mean,

1189
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's changed since before the season. I

1190
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: think they're the same. To me, they're the same defense

1191
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: that they were when we when we went into training camp.

1192
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: I know you guys didn't know with me on that,

1193
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: but I think I bet you don't know what I'm

1194
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: gonna say ahead, but I I don't feel great about

1195
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: the defense and I never have. But through the last

1196
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: six weeks, do you kind of feel like maybe the

1197
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: pass rush will be better than we give it credit for.

1198
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: Maybe if MALIEK Collins can be a difference maker. Malik

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00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: looks like a potential difference maker. Yeah, Stephen Paya looks

1200
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: like a potential difference maker. DeMarcus started slow, but I

1201
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: really felt like he kind of came on at the

1202
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: end of camp. Yeah. I don't know what to think

1203
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: about Mayowa because he's been on and off with his

1204
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: knee so much, but he led the team in sacks

1205
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: and that counts for something last year I'm talking about.

1206
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: So that's four guys that are pretty nice right there.

1207
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: I would feel better if David Irving was was sure

1208
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: I would feel and I was about to throw in

1209
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: Demontre Moore right maybe was the most consistently good edge

1210
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: rusher on the entire team through all of training camp

1211
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: and he's only out for two games. That's not that bad.

1212
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: So do I think they're gonna get sixty sacks? No?

1213
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I kind of feel like maybe

1214
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: they'll be better than we give than people give them

1215
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: credit for, especially against the Giants O line that I

1216
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's very good, but I agree with you

1217
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: on that. I don't know if I think they may

1218
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: have taken a step back, especially if you're just talking

1219
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: about week one. I think they may have taken a

1220
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: step back in the secondary. I don't feel as comfortable

1221
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: with that guys that they have in the second, specifically

1222
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position, as I did last year at

1223
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: the cornerback. That's why I made sure to preface that

1224
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: the unit as a whole, you lose hitch. The rookies

1225
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: aren't ready. The secondary didn't look great in the dress rehearsal.

1226
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't feel that great about the defense as a whole,

1227
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: but I feel better about the pass rush, and I

1228
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: think everybody would agree that a good pass rush can

1229
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: ask a lot of other problems with that. I just

1230
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it's that much better to mask the difference.

1231
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: So I guess my point is with the changes, if

1232
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit better about one area, I

1233
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: don't feel as good about another. So I still think

1234
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: you got pretty much the same pretty much. It be

1235
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: point where it's like over all just all of it

1236
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: we feel good about. But I will say this though too,

1237
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: I also don't agree that this was that the defense

1238
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: was horrible last year. I think the defense was an

1239
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: average defense, and so I still think they're an average defense.

1240
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they're the type of defense that's the

1241
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: worst in the league. Also don't think they're anywhere near

1242
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: being the best in the league. If the offense does

1243
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: what it did last year, they should be fine the

1244
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: majority of the games that they play. And that's why

1245
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: I think that this ruling, this decision, whatever comes down

1246
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: with Zeke, I think Rod Marinelli is going to be

1247
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: the most interested person in the room because I think

1248
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: that his defense, if they can get the offense can

1249
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: move the ball and can kind of give them some

1250
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: rest and kind of stay on the field, get first down,

1251
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: to do all those things. I think that'll help this

1252
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: defense and kind of how it's been structured a little

1253
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: bit this year, but without it, and we saw in

1254
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: the Packer game last year it was an average defense.

1255
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: You're right, but for the most part they got by

1256
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: with it because the offense was moving the ball. But

1257
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: when they when they struggled out of the gate against

1258
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Green Bay, then they got exposed a little bit more

1259
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: are so, but still we're in position to win and

1260
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: make that. They buckled down and you know, they made

1261
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: it a tight game and all that, but then at

1262
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: the end they got by the probably the best in

1263
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: the league, if not the second best. All right, let's

1264
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: take We're done with for today. We'll be back tomorrow. Remember,

1265
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll talk about the Giants offense versus the Cowboys defense.

1266
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Start breaking that down, getting you guys ready for opening Sunday.

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Eatman, David Helman, Ambergarcia, I'm Derek Haklson.

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