Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi ladies, Hi, good to see us. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: recap of Still the Place.
Speaker 3: Always Fun, Always fun. This is going to be a
Speaker 3: good one.
Speaker 1: Yes, So, Daphne, you've been reading some comments on Instagram
Speaker 1: and you want to talk about what they're saying.
Speaker 2: I just briefly want to say that we're trying this
Speaker 2: new format and we hope that y'all.
Speaker 4: We're glad that you're sticking with us.
Speaker 2: Some of you are watching along, some of you are
Speaker 2: just listening to the podcast, and we're going to give
Speaker 2: this another.
Speaker 4: Go and hopefully this will be clearer to people.
Speaker 2: And that you are having fun with us, because we're
Speaker 2: having a blast and this is a great episode.
Speaker 1: We're trying something. It's a little less linear because we
Speaker 1: kind of felt stuck, So stick with us. If it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, we can always bring back stuff that worked
Speaker 1: or didn't. But we just wanted to have it be
Speaker 1: more free form so we could talk and tell stories
Speaker 1: and just have more fun with it.
Speaker 4: So just working.
Speaker 1: Give us a second. None of us are fans of change,
Speaker 1: but let's see how much fields. Give us a few
Speaker 1: weeks see if we can get our footage. So this episode,
Speaker 1: episode twenty five, it's so busy. I love it because
Speaker 1: Jane and Michael are back in the episode, Amanda and
Speaker 1: Billy are in the episode. Robstie's is in the episode
Speaker 1: playing Sam Marcia Cross is back playing Kimberly.
Speaker 3: Matt has a line, and Jake does he has a line?
Speaker 4: No, he doesn't, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I will do yeah, exactly what math is a line.
Speaker 1: He's also roasting a marshmallow, which is very exciting. That's right.
Speaker 5: I will tell you that he does have a line
Speaker 5: in this episode, So that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Go and Jake, unfortunately are not making out. We're all disappointed.
Speaker 1: They're kind of support stuff in this episode.
Speaker 3: They should considerable restraint.
Speaker 2: I think the theme in this Courtney quite appropriately, I think,
Speaker 2: is change, big time change.
Speaker 1: For a lot of our character, bringing it back around,
Speaker 1: and it's also being uncomfortable with change. So the show's
Speaker 1: starts and we come in on Billy. It's directed by
Speaker 1: Nancy Malone, who's one of our favorite directors, and she
Speaker 1: does this shock coming in on Billy, who can't get
Speaker 1: comfortable in Amanda's fancy apartment, which is, you know, a
Speaker 1: metaphor for him not being comfortable in her life. And
Speaker 1: the episode for Billy and Amanda is really about them
Speaker 1: trying to find a way. He moves his chair and
Speaker 1: she doesn't like his chair. She doesn't like his rules.
Speaker 1: She's trying to be easy. He wants her to watch
Speaker 1: a movie. She doesn't want to watch a movie. It's
Speaker 1: them seeing if they can make it work together. We
Speaker 1: find out whether or not they can by the end,
Speaker 1: Alison and Keith, this will shock everyone. Allison's cranky and confused,
Speaker 1: which I mean we all find very shocking, I know,
Speaker 1: and Allison, and he's annoyingly. He's annoying. Alison's annoying. He
Speaker 1: decides to move to Seattle with Keith, so stupid right.
Speaker 3: Away, so super mad at her about that.
Speaker 1: We're already mad at her. And she is going through
Speaker 1: life just sort of steamrolling through the entire episode saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm moving to Seattle. I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: I'm moving to Seattle, I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1: On Monday.
Speaker 5: On Monday, why, Yeah, it's so funny, Conny, you just
Speaker 5: said you said I'm moving to Seattle so fast I
Speaker 5: thought you said, I'm just gonna settle.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna settle. I'm going to Seattle. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what she was doing.
Speaker 4: And I was taking my notes.
Speaker 1: It kept saying settle. I was like, yes, So Alison's
Speaker 1: moving to Seattle. We're all super annoyed. She's presenting it
Speaker 1: to everybody. There's a great scene where we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: But she comes in when Joe and Jake are helping
Speaker 1: Billy move, which is so psyched as he's moving, and
Speaker 1: she's gonna announce this. You know, I'm going too. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Seattle. I think it's a really good idea.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go get some boxes.
Speaker 3: She's just gone.
Speaker 1: Right now, what happened Alison and Amanda. Allison's already getting
Speaker 1: really mad at Amanda because she's leaving D and D
Speaker 1: because she's got this great idea to move to Seattle.
Speaker 1: What could be wrong? Amanda is annoyed, and at one
Speaker 1: point Allison says, you're jealous of me, and Amanda says
Speaker 1: something like, well, I have Billy. So there's that conflict.
Speaker 1: That relationship isn't working. Billion and Billy and Allison are
Speaker 1: heartbreaking because Billy's leaving the apartment, Alison leaves, Billy watches
Speaker 1: her leave. Then later on in the show, Allison's on
Speaker 1: an airplane and Billy watches Hurley. It's heartbreaking all through it.
Speaker 1: Alison and Billy are leading these parallel lives. And Billy
Speaker 1: is trying to get Amanda to watch No Saratu and
Speaker 1: he's going jogging in the same place in time they
Speaker 1: used to go. Alison's trying to get Keith to watch
Speaker 1: No Sparratu and she's going jogging in the same place, and.
Speaker 2: You with massive piles of popcorn. They obviously have their
Speaker 2: routine from the past.
Speaker 3: They want to watch it in the same way, same world.
Speaker 1: They should have done split screen right, like they're each
Speaker 1: trying to and Keith is trying to kiss Alison and
Speaker 1: we all just want to hit him in the head.
Speaker 1: And Amanda is not paying any attention. She doesn't like it,
Speaker 1: and you just, you know, you're screaming at the tv.
Speaker 1: Just be together, Aga, go over yourself. Why can't they
Speaker 1: just be together? And there's a scene that will also
Speaker 1: address when Joe and Jake have dinner with Amanda and Billy,
Speaker 1: which I'm furious about, but Jake gives Billy some great advice,
Speaker 1: which is, don't like trade your life for her, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, don't trade your life for her.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what we see going in everywhere,
Speaker 1: people trading their lives for this idea. And then super
Speaker 1: exciting Michael. Jane and Michael are back and Michael's old friend.
Speaker 5: And they don't talk about where they've been, but they
Speaker 5: were gone for.
Speaker 1: A while, just behind closed doors. They were running it.
Speaker 1: They were a target.
Speaker 3: They were. Now they've got a very cool storyline and they're.
Speaker 1: Now they're back. So Rob Esti's who is Josie's real
Speaker 1: life husband, comes back as Sam, who's Michael's old college friend.
Speaker 1: Michael's working so he can't go to dinner.
Speaker 2: Josie and Rob just got married basically this now they're
Speaker 2: doing these in real life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were newly woods at the time, just insanely attractive.
Speaker 1: Right when they're on a scene together, you're just like,
Speaker 1: stop it. You're both your attractive.
Speaker 4: So beautiful.
Speaker 1: So Jane goes out to dinner with Sam and he
Speaker 1: confesses his feelings and kisses her and she's not quite
Speaker 1: resistant enough. And when Michael goes back to guess who's back.
Speaker 1: Marsha Cross is Kimberly. So it's interesting how they set
Speaker 1: that up because we know that something happens with Michael
Speaker 1: and Kimberly. But they had Jane make the first mistake
Speaker 1: right even though Sam kissed her, she kind of kissed
Speaker 1: him back, so that gave him the out.
Speaker 3: So so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so much. It's so exciting. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about all of the relationships.
Speaker 5: The title of this episode is Irreconcilable Similarities.
Speaker 3: Also, it's written by Chuck.
Speaker 5: Pratt, and it just is like such a All the
Speaker 5: parallels that you described are so cool and irreconcilable Himilarity
Speaker 5: is such a good title for Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also I feel like the in a meta sort
Speaker 2: of way, Melrose Place is now there were more Melrose moments,
Speaker 2: the familiar Melrose It's like becoming more to the forefront.
Speaker 4: Like there were a couple of lines.
Speaker 2: I had that Amanda says to Alison, like when you
Speaker 2: said when you said. Towards the beginning of the episode,
Speaker 2: Allison's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to moving to Seattle
Speaker 2: and has nothing to do with you and Billy, and
Speaker 2: she's like, don't forget your raincoat, Like that was such
Speaker 2: an Amanda line, don't forget, oh Alison, don't forget your raincoat,
Speaker 2: And there were a couple other lines like that, and
Speaker 2: then you know, so you see there were a few of.
Speaker 4: Those Melrose uh kind of like what did she just say? Moment.
Speaker 5: Well, it is the first time we're seeing Amanda's character
Speaker 5: decide it's okay to be bitchy, Like I see her
Speaker 5: as like coming into the scene trying to be nice
Speaker 5: to Alison, like, hey, are we okay?
Speaker 3: Is kind of how she started the scene.
Speaker 5: But Allison's in her defensive mode and goes off without well,
Speaker 5: I heard about how you've you know, treated other employees,
Speaker 5: and nobody likes it. You're acting all professional and you
Speaker 5: got your game face on, but nobody really likes it.
Speaker 3: And Amanda says except for Billy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote that line, dog because I liked it
Speaker 1: so much. She says, the truth is that Allison says,
Speaker 1: the truth is that everything you say is a disguise
Speaker 1: for something else, and I'm tired of it. Everyone is
Speaker 1: tired of it. And Amanda goes everyone except Billy game on, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, starting to see Amanda really Amanda.
Speaker 2: There they go, Then we'll see at the end of
Speaker 2: this episode, you know, Allison has her say with Amanda
Speaker 2: at the barbecue, at the bonfire, so it's it's really
Speaker 2: picking up. And then the re entry of Marcia after
Speaker 2: we haven't seen her since Christmas episode the.
Speaker 4: Middle of this season.
Speaker 2: Now we're in episode what twenty five or something, but
Speaker 2: Marsha's back, Kimberly's back, and she's very Kimberly like, and it.
Speaker 5: Gives those relationships every reason to think about like, hmmm,
Speaker 5: this other person over here is the grass greener, and
Speaker 5: this irreconcilable similarities theme really shows, and all the relationships.
Speaker 1: And everybody making these crazy decisions, like you see that
Speaker 1: Billy's making this crazy decision to move into the Amanda
Speaker 1: without really thinking because he doesn't know what to do
Speaker 1: with Allison. And then she goes to Seattle. We've got
Speaker 1: everybody leaving. There's a big going away party. And did
Speaker 1: you guys notice I'm going back to the scene with
Speaker 1: Alison and Amanda because I didn't understand this when Amanda lee, oh,
Speaker 1: it's raincoats. I was just going, why did you say,
Speaker 1: don't forget your ring and.
Speaker 3: It's raincoat?
Speaker 1: It just literally just can't take bad notes.
Speaker 4: Ring your auto spelling is.
Speaker 1: A little let's don't forget your ring.
Speaker 3: Those are just bad notes.
Speaker 1: Don't forget your ring.
Speaker 2: I wish Billy would just put a ring on it,
Speaker 2: for God's sakes, but then we wouldn't have a show.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: Oh, I really wanted to know, Duff because I'm furious
Speaker 1: about it. What are Joe and Jake doing at dinner
Speaker 1: with Billy and Amanda?
Speaker 2: Well, I have an answer for you because the scene before,
Speaker 2: you said I'm going to Seattle bye, and you kind
Speaker 2: of just looked at us, and I think in Allison's
Speaker 2: protection with just saying like I'm out, I'm out of here.
Speaker 4: And I said, well, when have you told your boss?
Speaker 1: What about your work?
Speaker 4: What about us? Based when you say it.
Speaker 2: Was the ugliest lamp from like the buglest Lamp, and that's.
Speaker 4: Supposed to be enough.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Anyways, so it was just dinner. So then we had
Speaker 4: dinner with Amanda.
Speaker 1: So you're looking for a new friend. You think maybe
Speaker 1: Amanda will be your new friend.
Speaker 3: But the funniest part years later, you guys are.
Speaker 2: Wait, we should have asked Chuck when he was here
Speaker 2: just a couple episodes ago, because he wrote this thing.
Speaker 4: But I think, but don't you guys, I think like this,
Speaker 4: let's let's talk about the chair. It's not just this chair.
Speaker 4: It's a squeaky old ugly chair.
Speaker 2: Like there should be a name for that, the squeaky
Speaker 2: old ugly chair suit.
Speaker 1: Kind of like Fraser. Remember in Fraser, the dad had
Speaker 1: that chair. Well, Billy's version of the Fraser chair. It's
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad looking chair. It's a
Speaker 1: big leather chair.
Speaker 5: Big leather, but it's squeak, the metaphor for their you
Speaker 5: know first.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and at that dinner scene every time, like
Speaker 2: it squeaks like the sound.
Speaker 4: Guy was like.
Speaker 2: And then Amanda sits on his lap trying to be
Speaker 2: coy and it's like.
Speaker 3: Eh, they're both in it together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and during that dinner party they decide to throw
Speaker 1: the chair away, like Billy concedes about thrawinway. So I actually,
Speaker 1: little Sidner, I thought a good idea for Meloy's men.
Speaker 1: It would be when you've had to merge your houses
Speaker 1: with a partner, because I have a lot of stories
Speaker 1: about that. That would be fun. Stick a pin in it.
Speaker 1: But so he's moving it out and Jake is following
Speaker 1: him and giving him some really good advice. Right, he's saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Jake is saying, you gotta be careful, Billy, like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to give it all away. This is
Speaker 1: a woman who likes control. You don't want to give
Speaker 1: it all away. Didn't you think that was some really
Speaker 1: solid advice?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, Well, he says, what what's next? You're
Speaker 2: sacrificing this this old chair that's so comfortable to you.
Speaker 2: It's your comfort, it's your world, it's who you are.
Speaker 2: So are the old things that t shirts that you
Speaker 2: wear around the house, Like that's you, that's not her.
Speaker 5: But also like, yeah, what's she gonna ask you to
Speaker 5: give up next guys night, you know, night with the
Speaker 5: guys or whatever.
Speaker 3: And what's she given up for you? Is the last
Speaker 3: question he and.
Speaker 1: Billy says relationships are about sacrifice. I'm like, well, they
Speaker 1: should be a fun and.
Speaker 4: Love and compromise, not compromise. Yeah, not sacrifice. I like
Speaker 4: compromise better, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Billy goes, I'm not keeping score, and Jake goes,
Speaker 1: if I were you, i'd start Yeah, maybe I should.
Speaker 1: Apparently he's not a huge fan of Amanda and Apparently.
Speaker 2: He can talk because his girlfriend and he live right
Speaker 2: next door to each other and they don't have to
Speaker 2: sacrifice anything because of each other. O an apartment in
Speaker 2: their own decorp nice. Easy for you to say, Jake, helpful.
Speaker 2: But you guys are equal, don't you think?
Speaker 1: Like Joe and Jake, the sweet thing about them is
Speaker 1: their equals. And I think what he's seeing with Amanda
Speaker 1: and Billy is that it's It's so funny because as
Speaker 1: I start saying it, I like, I have so much
Speaker 1: rage about that relationship, and it really comes up like
Speaker 1: that's stupid relationship. It's so stupid.
Speaker 4: And then I hope you have a good therapist because
Speaker 4: I don't want you to relive this.
Speaker 1: You imagine I got the therapy and I said I
Speaker 1: need to talk about Billy and Amanda. She'd be like, who,
Speaker 1: I'm like their characters on a TV show for thirty
Speaker 1: years ago. I really need to talk about it.
Speaker 3: They're still pissing me off.
Speaker 1: They keep kissing. It really makes me that she kind
Speaker 1: of treats Billy like a little boy, which is really
Speaker 1: shown by he sits on the floor like none of
Speaker 1: the furnit, the finah is all is pretty but uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: so he ends up sitting on the floor, as it
Speaker 1: is more than coffee on the floor.
Speaker 5: More than one scene he's sitting on the floor in
Speaker 5: this episode, and I didn't have a Boxers mentioning that.
Speaker 3: She treats him like a child.
Speaker 5: Well, he actually sort of speaks to her in his
Speaker 5: like a little little cutesy baby voice too, just sort
Speaker 5: of incongruous with their like what seems like her sophistication whatever.
Speaker 4: It's sort of.
Speaker 3: Illuminated by him going, oh, what did it?
Speaker 5: And he's like just all cute and I don't know,
Speaker 5: kind of like a little baby.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: This this is also that great moment that where they're
Speaker 1: showing like they did move too quickly, so they had
Speaker 1: things they liked about each other. Obviously, they're both super attractive,
Speaker 1: they're both sexy. They move in and then they start
Speaker 1: to see the differences, like she thought she would help
Speaker 1: him grow up, he thought he would help her loosen up,
Speaker 1: but they find neither of them wants to do that.
Speaker 1: So then you're at this. We've all been in those relationships,
Speaker 1: I'm sure where you each have this idea of I'm
Speaker 1: just going to do a few tweaks here, but there
Speaker 1: are things that the other person doesn't want to change.
Speaker 5: Well, he really came to that conclusion, like super out
Speaker 5: loud by the end of his story arc and by
Speaker 5: the end of the episode when he really has to
Speaker 5: confront her and say, hey, I don't think this was
Speaker 5: a great idea.
Speaker 3: Is moving in together?
Speaker 5: This all went to quickly, and you know, while I'm
Speaker 5: being honest, I don't think I like you very much.
Speaker 5: He was like, Oh, now that I've gotten to know you,
Speaker 5: I don't think I like it. Like he really like, yeah,
Speaker 5: all of it just well.
Speaker 1: He said that, but he blew up after she insulted Allison,
Speaker 1: and I wrote it down, said I love this line
Speaker 1: so much. She says, kind of apropos of nothing. She says,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not Alison. I'm glad I'm not some ditzy,
Speaker 1: indecisive little Midwestern nitwith Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, I really say things. I would say things
Speaker 2: like that if you're in a fight already. But these
Speaker 2: guys were like letting each other have it, getting in
Speaker 2: like that's what led to the fight, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think, which goes back to my argument about the chair.
Speaker 4: I think the chair was more than a chair because
Speaker 4: she was like, in your ugly effing chair, you know,
Speaker 4: like that's.
Speaker 3: Really what the chair is more than a chair? Well
Speaker 3: it was, so it is like the subtitle.
Speaker 1: And then symbolizes him like he wants to bring in
Speaker 1: his full self. She doesn't want it. She wants this
Speaker 1: handsome young guy that she thinks she's going to make
Speaker 1: into the man her husband wants her father not her husband. Upsy,
Speaker 1: there's a little forty.
Speaker 3: Oops what I mean.
Speaker 1: Father wants him to be, but he doesn't want it.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's so sweet. This Chuck did such
Speaker 1: a great job on this, this spread of how much
Speaker 1: Billy and Elison really have common and they're trying to
Speaker 1: make their partners be each other and it's just not
Speaker 1: because there's a scene they run into each other running
Speaker 1: at the same time, same neighborhood, and.
Speaker 2: Well, wait to hold on, and they only they run
Speaker 2: into each other court because he leaves the marina where
Speaker 2: he's living with Amanda to go. He goes, I'm going running,
Speaker 2: and she goes, well, why are you taking your car?
Speaker 2: He's like, because I'm going back to Melrose. So he's
Speaker 2: going to see her at the right time.
Speaker 1: She noticed running. Yeah, so she knows, and they literally
Speaker 1: run into each other and it's so cute, but they
Speaker 1: each say that they're trying to get their partners to
Speaker 1: watch it and neither like Amanda doesn't want butter on
Speaker 1: a popcorn and keep this hitting on Alison like it's
Speaker 1: all wrong. They're both so frustrated and obviously.
Speaker 3: Hitting on her. He's like climbing on her.
Speaker 4: He is climbing, he is.
Speaker 3: He's like draping him and us.
Speaker 5: Pretty soon she's got a pillow over her. She's like,
Speaker 5: more padding, more, start the pillow.
Speaker 1: She started with the barrier, the pillow barrier.
Speaker 2: I think, Courtney, you playing Allison and Keith story must
Speaker 2: have been so hard because it was like a pendulum constantly.
Speaker 4: One scene, you're like, I'm gonna move with you.
Speaker 2: You're in the car together and I'm gonna move with you,
Speaker 2: and yes, of course I'm in love with you.
Speaker 4: Of course I've been thinking about you. And the next
Speaker 4: minute you just keep going goingugh, what stop.
Speaker 1: She's trying to talk herself because in the car, she says,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to have a conversation because you always
Speaker 1: say the right thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did appreciate it.
Speaker 1: That's the right thing, right, Like she's trying to make
Speaker 1: this thing work, but it doesn't really. There's a time
Speaker 1: when they're at the beach and he says he's moving
Speaker 1: in on her and she's trying to get some space,
Speaker 1: and he says, when I find something that's right that
Speaker 1: I know that I want, I grab onto it and
Speaker 1: I don't let it get away. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's stalker one oh one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He also like there was that was the scene on
Speaker 3: the beach.
Speaker 5: By the way, you're wearing the cutest baseball You look
Speaker 5: a door horrible. You got jeans and a baseball hat
Speaker 5: on on the beach.
Speaker 3: You're so cute. And then but you.
Speaker 5: Were like Allison was trying to be sort of playful
Speaker 5: with him at one point, and like you literally got
Speaker 5: down into like pounce position and you were like gonna
Speaker 5: be playful, and then he ruined it by saying something
Speaker 5: about like, oh, this is what it's like in a
Speaker 5: marriage or something like that.
Speaker 3: He dropped the word marriage, and you're like, no.
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 5: No, Now you've gotten blown it by talking about marriage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying to bring up some really true concerns
Speaker 1: about this is scary, we're moving so fast, and then
Speaker 1: you just gas slights her and says you're crazy. Of
Speaker 1: course it's normal to move to Seattle on Monday. Of
Speaker 1: course that's a perfectly normal thing to leave your job
Speaker 1: and your friends. But you can see it, like especially
Speaker 1: in the scene when Alison's talking to Joe and Jake
Speaker 1: and Billy, that she's just rushing through it, that she
Speaker 1: can't stand to see him moving out, and so she's
Speaker 1: going to go too, because you know, my guess is
Speaker 1: part of it. She can't stand to be in that
Speaker 1: apartment alone, right, She can't stand to sit in the life,
Speaker 1: in her real life with Billy missing. So she and
Speaker 1: he's a geographic and she's going to She's going to
Speaker 1: blow up her entire life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it reminds me so much of
Speaker 2: when I was young, where I think when we're young,
Speaker 2: we tend to think about love and coupling up and
Speaker 2: being in a romantic scenario. It has it has to
Speaker 2: do with a certain amount of you not being you,
Speaker 2: a certain amount of this idealization and this fantasy feeling
Speaker 2: and like he's going to be like this and I'm
Speaker 2: going to be and all I have to do is
Speaker 2: just do this and Okay, I'll get it.
Speaker 4: I did this constantly. We'll talk about in Melroe's minute.
Speaker 2: But like she's like, you're like, you're saying, I can't
Speaker 2: just sit home and be me. I mean it's working
Speaker 2: for Billy to go off and be with Amanda. I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to go off and be somebody else, Like I'm.
Speaker 4: Supposed this is me being an adult.
Speaker 1: You know, as much as she keeps saying, Like there's
Speaker 1: a scene too in the apartment when she's saying, but
Speaker 1: I want to work and I want to keep doing
Speaker 1: this and I want to keep living my life, and
Speaker 1: he goes, of course you should do that. But I
Speaker 1: think the audience knows he really is trying to control her,
Speaker 1: Like she keeps bringing it up and he kind of
Speaker 1: gaslights her and says that's not true. But she's really
Speaker 1: trying to be heard and he keeps saying the right thing.
Speaker 1: But we all know, we're like he's not, like he's
Speaker 1: not saying it the right way, like.
Speaker 5: Right, because he also said there's tons of time to
Speaker 5: get a job. You take a couple of months, Like yes,
Speaker 5: who has time to like do that.
Speaker 3: Like you know, she's already.
Speaker 5: Said I need to make a living. I need to
Speaker 5: you know, I need to have money. I need to
Speaker 5: have work. I need to be somebody who works. It's like, oh,
Speaker 5: there's time, tons of time, you know, there's not Yeah.
Speaker 1: When Allison sends her an email over the baker over
Speaker 1: the weekend, Lucy's trying to tell her, like what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Why are you there's telephones like, say Lucy
Speaker 1: the boss. Yeah, Deborah Dare who we adore, And she's
Speaker 1: trying to tell her, and she says, just tell me
Speaker 1: what is in Seattle that you're not getting here? And
Speaker 1: Alison goes Keith and Lucy does. Deborah is the biggest
Speaker 1: I roll like her entire can't you pick.
Speaker 4: Up the phone?
Speaker 3: Like big mistake?
Speaker 1: Current, Like I.
Speaker 2: Made a note about that that Lucy is always giving
Speaker 2: you great advice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, She's always willing to promote you, believe in you,
Speaker 4: encourage you.
Speaker 2: And all Alison does is dismiss her advice, take advantage
Speaker 2: of her, trying to give her promotions and things and
Speaker 2: the responsibility that comes along with that at work.
Speaker 4: Like she's trying she sees her as a Lucy.
Speaker 2: Lucy sees you as a younger version and really trying
Speaker 2: to help you. And all Alison does is like it's
Speaker 2: she says to her, it's complicated.
Speaker 4: It's not fucking complicated. It never is.
Speaker 2: It's just you say that so that you don't understand,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like nobody understands me.
Speaker 4: No, we understand.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not that Younique bring you way back
Speaker 1: to a time. Yeah, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: ever did bring me back to It's one of my
Speaker 1: first movies, and I was trying to tell the director
Speaker 1: that I had to leave early because my boyfriend was
Speaker 1: like he was on the movie too, and he had
Speaker 1: to leave the next day. And I kept saying, I
Speaker 1: want to leave, I want to leave. My boyfriend's leaving,
Speaker 1: And finally his assistant took me aside and said, just
Speaker 1: so you know, this is not professional, Like you don't
Speaker 1: go to the director of your movie and say, let
Speaker 1: me out early to see my boyfriend. And I still cringe,
Speaker 1: like I was only yah, maybe eighteen, and I still cringe.
Speaker 1: And again like we learn on the job when we
Speaker 1: started early, but I still cringe about that because right
Speaker 1: in that moment, the boyfriend was more important than my job.
Speaker 1: I didn't you don't go to the director and say
Speaker 1: can I go see my boyfriend? Like it was so weird.
Speaker 5: But I'm good for that assistant for sharing that with
Speaker 5: you that you just didn't.
Speaker 4: Yes, that assistant was Lucy.
Speaker 2: Don't you understand that was Lucy And she was talking
Speaker 2: to Courtney.
Speaker 5: It was like, you're saying, daff like she's always giving
Speaker 5: so much for Allison, and she said, you know there
Speaker 5: is something called notice, giving notice like that, you didn't
Speaker 5: even give me notice for the job, like talk about it.
Speaker 3: I'm professional.
Speaker 5: And yet at the end of that conversation with her,
Speaker 5: she says, let me know if you need a recommendation.
Speaker 5: She's still willing to like support you and root for you,
Speaker 5: even though you've just done all the wrong things with
Speaker 5: the way you've left the job.
Speaker 3: Won't be there if you want to come back, she says.
Speaker 1: And you can see that hit Alison when she says,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a recommendation. You can see this. There's
Speaker 1: so many moments when you think Alison might come to
Speaker 1: her senses, right, like especially at the end, so when
Speaker 1: you're wishing and Keith are waiting to go to the
Speaker 1: airport and their car isn't showing up, and Billy drives
Speaker 1: up with his chair attached to the top of his
Speaker 1: cab because he's a great showing Amanda's and we're still
Speaker 1: I don't remember any of this obviously he was thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, and then thinking yay, he's going to come out.
Speaker 1: They're going to walk back into the apartment, and Alison's
Speaker 1: not going to go with Keith, but they Keith and
Speaker 1: Allison get in the car to go to the airport,
Speaker 1: and Alison and Billy are talking and Keith keeps saying, Alison,
Speaker 1: we have to go. Alice, don't you want to just
Speaker 1: slap him? It's like Keith, shut up, yeah.
Speaker 3: And he just loads the bags in the car. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 5: I thought that the airport scene was shot really well too,
Speaker 5: where after he drives you go. After Billy drives Keith
Speaker 5: and Allison to the airport in his cab since their
Speaker 5: shuttle didn't show up, then he also says, hey, I'm
Speaker 5: going to walk you to the gate. And then it
Speaker 5: gave them an opportunity to have another private conversation because
Speaker 5: Alison says, Keith, why don't you go get us seats
Speaker 5: on the plane. So Keith disappears, thank you, and then
Speaker 5: Billy and Alison have this really great you know, honest
Speaker 5: that he's saying, don't do it, don't go. They're walking
Speaker 5: parallel with the fence in between them as she's approaching
Speaker 5: the plane.
Speaker 3: And walking with her. Do you remember if that was
Speaker 3: a Bourbank It looked it was Bourbank. It looked like
Speaker 3: Bourbank Airport.
Speaker 1: Did it look like a real airport to you? The
Speaker 1: front of the airport looked like someone had hand painted
Speaker 1: a sign and put it on top of the Valley Airport.
Speaker 5: It looked a lot like Yeah, they it was a
Speaker 5: made up name for an airport. They called it Valley,
Speaker 5: but I think it was Burbank Airport where the layout
Speaker 5: was shot. And that little half fence strikes me is
Speaker 5: like the way you approach an airplane whatever.
Speaker 3: It was just a really great way to.
Speaker 5: Shoot the scene, to be able to see Billy and
Speaker 5: Allison having this conversation. He was coming out and saying it,
Speaker 5: don't do it, don't leave.
Speaker 4: Did you guys just see that Bob Dylan movie. It's
Speaker 4: so good. I've seen it twice.
Speaker 2: But there's a scene like that in the airport where
Speaker 2: the cycling fence is high. So they're like this, but
Speaker 2: they're talking to each other and they just have this
Speaker 2: heartbreaking thing.
Speaker 4: And I saw this scene, I'm like, I wonder if
Speaker 4: he stole that from Melrose Place.
Speaker 1: We have a huge, a huge influence on the world
Speaker 1: of movie, right, he's on the film world. I think
Speaker 1: that scene's been done a lot. But it's this sweet
Speaker 1: thing when he's saying please don't go, and you really
Speaker 1: think for a minute she's not going to. They have that,
Speaker 1: Like how many sweet heartbreaking hugs are Billy and Allison?
Speaker 2: Well, listen another line that he said there, which was
Speaker 2: so revelatiyor to me. He says, you can't go and
Speaker 2: she's like, you know something like what's here? And he's like, no,
Speaker 2: these are like the best people you met in your
Speaker 2: whole life. I know, because they are the best people I've.
Speaker 4: Met in my life.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I was like wow, it just like made
Speaker 2: me feel really good, Like, Okay, these people are good
Speaker 2: for each other.
Speaker 4: And they had a big influence on Billy, do you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because that whole apartment thing, because we all just do
Speaker 2: stuff to each other, but like, they are really great
Speaker 2: for each other. This is the time in life where
Speaker 2: we depend on each other and we really have these
Speaker 2: good friendships.
Speaker 5: And she doesn't really have a strong enough response to
Speaker 5: it either.
Speaker 3: She's like, I have to go, I have to get
Speaker 3: on the plane, and.
Speaker 5: Like whatever that is insider her that makes her feel
Speaker 5: like she has to follow through with what she said
Speaker 5: she was going to do, and.
Speaker 1: She well, it's Billy. It's that Billy's with Amanda. Because
Speaker 1: I heard that line, this might be my self centered
Speaker 1: because I was like, that's really about Alison trying to
Speaker 1: project everything I can. But I thought, because it's the thought,
Speaker 1: I thought he was saying the micro version of the
Speaker 1: best person I've ever met. Like I think it was
Speaker 1: about by.
Speaker 5: That time he said that he's moved out and they're over.
Speaker 5: I'm just arguing with this logic here for you, of course,
Speaker 5: but that's.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, like he's saying a moment, don't go again.
Speaker 1: This is my rewriting of the scene, don't go. I
Speaker 1: wish I thought I wrote it down. I can't find it.
Speaker 4: No, it's I I mean I can.
Speaker 2: You know, you can think of what you want, project
Speaker 2: aw you want. But I think he really did me
Speaker 2: because if you think about it, even in this episode
Speaker 2: where he lives with Amanda, he still has had these
Speaker 2: moments with these people.
Speaker 4: They've had scenes of moving helping him move the chair.
Speaker 2: He's had talks with with Grant, who's been there for him.
Speaker 4: He's, you know, like, these are great people. That's how
Speaker 4: I read it, and I just.
Speaker 1: I think the show Yeah, yeah, no, I think you're
Speaker 1: totally right.
Speaker 2: But he could have been covering it like you're my
Speaker 2: best person, don't leave.
Speaker 1: He could have been that's that's what I'm doing, That's
Speaker 1: that's the story.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And but but that she in her response is just
Speaker 5: like I have to go. There's not like we don't
Speaker 5: understand that as an audience, we.
Speaker 3: Can't understand why do you have to go?
Speaker 5: When this guy is just finished saying he's done with Amanda,
Speaker 5: he's you know, saying you can't go. I want you
Speaker 5: to stay these people and me and us where all
Speaker 5: the best people will ever know, don't get on the
Speaker 5: plane like he's been like laying it all out, and
Speaker 5: she still goes, I have to go. And I wanted
Speaker 5: to say, why why do you have to go?
Speaker 1: Well, because she's sort of moving ahead, she's got her
Speaker 1: blinders on, she's not taking the time. It's just like
Speaker 1: Daphne said about why Joe is probably annoyed with Allison
Speaker 1: because she just said, I have to go. Even at
Speaker 1: the goodbye party, like they're not she's not really talking
Speaker 1: to her friends. She and Amanda are having this really
Speaker 1: intense conversation.
Speaker 4: Amanda have it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's doing before I go, I just need to
Speaker 5: tell you all these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, Amanda, I really don't care
Speaker 2: what you think of me. And that sets her free,
Speaker 2: you know, like think say whatever you want about me, don't.
Speaker 5: It also sets it up because we know obviously Ali's
Speaker 5: going to come back, because there's lots more seasons of Melrose.
Speaker 4: Does she live? Does she live in this apartment?
Speaker 3: I thought she moved, Well she's got made it back
Speaker 3: both out.
Speaker 4: Then who's who's paying the rent? Like someone else should
Speaker 4: move in there.
Speaker 5: It also opened the door for like, all right, game
Speaker 5: on with all these relationships. Now I've told you, but
Speaker 5: I think of you, and now all bets are off.
Speaker 5: It's just going to We're going to come back. This
Speaker 5: this my nemesis. This is these are enemies. These are
Speaker 5: not like all these new relationships of Amanda being allowed
Speaker 5: to be a bitch, and Alison's saying, well, here's what
Speaker 5: I think of you. We've already said it, so now
Speaker 5: we can't like unsee it. And I think it's like
Speaker 5: a tonal shift to like moving forward. We get to
Speaker 5: do all that now, we get to see that Michael's
Speaker 5: thinking about maybe having an affair and all that stuff,
Speaker 5: Like all these things sort of turned the quint.
Speaker 2: It makes me remember what Chuck was saying when he
Speaker 2: was our guest on the show of Like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's from the soap world. He's from turning things
Speaker 2: on its head like constantly, and these relations look blowing
Speaker 2: them up and then bringing them back, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: Like that's what he just did with Alison and Billy.
Speaker 2: Like he's gone, she's gone, and even though he sucked
Speaker 2: you in, they're jogging together. They love all the same things,
Speaker 2: but it's just boom, and then he's going to very skillfully,
Speaker 2: you know, bring it all back in a different shape.
Speaker 4: I mean, he just constantly he has to do this.
Speaker 4: This is the kind of writer he is.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it's nobody being able to say what
Speaker 1: they really feel, like Alison. I think all the outrage
Speaker 1: Alison has an Amanda is really she's so heard about Billy.
Speaker 1: There's a great line at the end of the party
Speaker 1: when Amanda says something about all these great friends and
Speaker 1: Alison says, I've never seen you with many friends of
Speaker 1: your own. Yeah, and Amanda says cheap shot, and Alison
Speaker 1: goes right on target, and she's just so furious. But
Speaker 1: what she can't say to Billy is I want to
Speaker 1: be with you. So it's all of this anger directed
Speaker 1: at Amanda. So speaking of not saying directly, let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about Michael, who stopped like there in bed.
Speaker 1: It's very sweet. We see them very happy. They get
Speaker 1: the call from Sam Michael can't do dinner, so Jane
Speaker 1: decides to go out with Sam.
Speaker 3: Well, Michael suggests that she didn't.
Speaker 1: So what did you think of that dinner?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: How how many.
Speaker 4: Dinner between Sam and between Sam and Jay?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, their natural.
Speaker 4: With the roses, and she got a kiss even no
Speaker 4: matter who was it was.
Speaker 5: Well, she was going to be in a convertible driving
Speaker 5: her a little convertible. She needed a hat when Sydney
Speaker 5: all the all the scenes in this episode, she had
Speaker 5: her hair pulled back off of her face, either with
Speaker 5: a headband or her hav and stuff. So maybe that
Speaker 5: was just her transition. I mean, she's so gorgeous in
Speaker 5: every darn scene. Yeah, and the chemistry between Josie and
Speaker 5: Rob in the scene playing Jane and Sam was I
Speaker 5: mean undeniable, and.
Speaker 4: They look beautiful, so beautiful.
Speaker 3: Together, and that was, like we said, her husband at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: But what do you think about this friend, old friend
Speaker 2: of her husband's. Not But even before the kiss and
Speaker 2: then what gave him did he feel like.
Speaker 4: He had permission to kiss her? Did was there a
Speaker 4: flirt that I mean.
Speaker 1: Well he was talking about he was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, you can never find anybody basically because
Speaker 1: nobody held a candle to you. Yeah, and he's sort
Speaker 1: of crossing the lines at dinner. That's why I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you find yourself sort of voting for them
Speaker 1: or like stop it, that's so inappropriate.
Speaker 4: But wait a second.
Speaker 2: So they dated before and Michael said, go on out
Speaker 2: with my old friend who you used to date.
Speaker 1: They didn't date, No, Michael and Jane were always together
Speaker 1: and Sam was Michael's best friend, right, which Sam, it's
Speaker 1: It's like the Love Actually Seen where the best friend
Speaker 1: holds a torch for his friend's wife.
Speaker 2: So he says, no one could hold a candle to you,
Speaker 2: because I see you through my best friend.
Speaker 5: They were talking about all of his old exes, like
Speaker 5: all the people he dated, and how Jane never seemed
Speaker 5: to approve of them, and she was like, yeah, they
Speaker 5: were you know whatever, and he goes, well, good. The
Speaker 5: truth is, I didn't feel like they were enough like you.
Speaker 5: That's why I never found the ones, because no one
Speaker 5: was you. And he drops that bomb at the dinner.
Speaker 2: So this is making me see it that this is
Speaker 2: a complicated situation unlike Alison's, because you're making me remember
Speaker 2: that it wasn't It wasn't Michael's idea.
Speaker 4: It was Jane's idea. The scene before to have dinner with.
Speaker 1: His Michael, it was Jane.
Speaker 2: She said, I'll see him. He goes, I can't. Jane goes,
Speaker 2: i'll see him. I'll go, and then he goes, oh,
Speaker 2: Jane will go, yeah, she's doing great something.
Speaker 4: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I remember Michael saying, but you you should go to
Speaker 1: dinner with him, don't you. I think I think I
Speaker 1: think we're I think we're all right right now, and yeah,
Speaker 1: let's look at it.
Speaker 3: But deaf, I think you're right. I think she casually is.
Speaker 5: Like I can go, like what but it was assumed
Speaker 5: to be platonic.
Speaker 3: That's how I interpreted it.
Speaker 2: Well, so you're presuming though, because now we're digging up
Speaker 2: their past, right, So let's think about it reality wise.
Speaker 3: You know, in that moment it was played, I bought
Speaker 3: it as.
Speaker 5: Platonic and for sure, oh that it came as a
Speaker 5: surprise during the dinner when Sam decided to drop that bomb,
Speaker 5: and then it opens the door of the conversation where
Speaker 5: she admits, yeah, you know, I guess there was a
Speaker 5: second one. I thought about you too, But that is
Speaker 5: all well in our past. I'm married to Michael. He's
Speaker 5: a great guy, and Sam's like, yep, he's the best,
Speaker 5: he's a great guy and whatever. And then he's still
Speaker 5: persist in like sort of ambushing her with a kiss,
Speaker 5: and then he doesn't exactly hate yeah, but.
Speaker 1: He doesn't pull away super fast.
Speaker 4: Oh you okay.
Speaker 5: I mean I think she had a sense of I
Speaker 5: think Jane had a sense.
Speaker 4: Of absolutely she was shocked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think this was absolutely not okay, like
Speaker 5: this is I'm married to somebody else, but it's but
Speaker 5: I think the idea that like there had been something
Speaker 5: in their past, even if it was just imagined, like
Speaker 5: it didn't sound like because this was your original question,
Speaker 5: had they dated when they were earlier? Now we're discussing
Speaker 5: imaginary history. But it seemed like what they spelled out
Speaker 5: was that they didn't date, but they both admitted that
Speaker 5: they thought about it, and he thought about it to
Speaker 5: a much higher degree than she did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when he goes to kiss her, she doesn't
Speaker 1: say absolutely not, and he makes a joke about it. I
Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't invite you up, and she doesn't say no.
Speaker 1: She says it would be way too tempting.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's the next clue, and she had Yeah,
Speaker 4: so there's chemistry there.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So I guess the overall question is and we could
Speaker 2: talk about in Meloer's minute, or we can just bring
Speaker 2: it up right now quickly.
Speaker 4: You know, do you take that dinner if there's chemistry.
Speaker 2: Jane knew there was chemistry when she said I'll go
Speaker 2: and Michael goes, Okay, Michael.
Speaker 1: I don't think she did then.
Speaker 3: I don't think she intended to.
Speaker 4: Oh, so he pops up.
Speaker 2: He's so gorgeous, and he's like, I guess I can't
Speaker 2: ask you up, and she's it would be too tempting.
Speaker 4: It's just right there. Well, he says to each other forever.
Speaker 5: When he drops the bomb in the scene, he says,
Speaker 5: confession time, I'm about to tell you I've always loved you.
Speaker 3: And this is a subtext. None of those girls were.
Speaker 5: Good enough because none of them were you. That's what
Speaker 5: he confesses to her, so he drops the bomb. I
Speaker 5: don't think she anticipated that at all. I think she
Speaker 5: was just like, I'm going to dinner with our old
Speaker 5: friend Sam, and that was that.
Speaker 3: And even if she has in the back.
Speaker 2: Of round they if listen, guys, if we have a
Speaker 2: history here of these three people, I don't believe that
Speaker 2: this is the first time that this chemistry is being
Speaker 2: Well maybe it's the first time there he's acting on it,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's the first time she's felt it.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it is their first time, like really alone.
Speaker 1: And he says that maybe it's been a sort of fun,
Speaker 1: unsaid flirtation, like we have guy friends who sort of
Speaker 1: flirt with but it remains unsaid exactly, And because you know,
Speaker 1: even though they seemed to beginning along this episode, they've
Speaker 1: been having a bumpy time. So maybe she's more open
Speaker 1: to it than she would be, because when they have
Speaker 1: their fight at the end of this episode, you really
Speaker 1: see why she's created with Michael.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean he's the one that initiated it.
Speaker 2: He's the one that brought it up verbally and then
Speaker 2: kissed her and then you know, so it's on him.
Speaker 4: And in my book, did.
Speaker 5: You think he went to the hospital knowing that Michael
Speaker 5: may not have heard about the kiss from Jane, but
Speaker 5: that he was going to tell Michael anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So we're jumping ahead of it. So so
Speaker 1: Jane doesn't Jane's she doesn't tell Michael. She acts like
Speaker 1: nothing happened, so that later when Sam goes to tell Michael, look,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jane told you. I'm so sorry Michael hadn't heard.
Speaker 1: So here's it for the first time. And do you
Speaker 1: think Sam do that to drop a bomb in the relationship, like.
Speaker 5: To yeah, to cause problems? Do you think he did?
Speaker 4: I think he. I think he wanted to be clean,
Speaker 4: so that.
Speaker 2: If she had already told her, if Dane had already
Speaker 2: told Michael, like, look, he kissed me and nothing else happened,
Speaker 2: had already told him at least he'd be clean, like
Speaker 2: I'm admitting it too, and we can go on being buddies.
Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry. I hope you still want to
Speaker 2: be my friend. It will never happen again. But if
Speaker 2: she didn't say it, he's the first one to say it.
Speaker 2: So I think it was a selfish, self centered. I
Speaker 2: want to preserve was risky, but I think it was
Speaker 2: self centered move, just like kissing her was a self
Speaker 2: centered move.
Speaker 5: And also but prior to that, just deciding to do
Speaker 5: that confession at all, to say I've.
Speaker 3: Always loved you all that self that.
Speaker 5: Makes me, that makes me not as close as nothing
Speaker 5: to he was just h yeah, just telling Michael to
Speaker 5: clear his conscience. It was I think he's also got
Speaker 5: an agenda, So yeah, I think he's.
Speaker 4: Being I think it's hard to know, self centered and
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And then of course Jane gets the backlash because she
Speaker 2: chose not to tell him because it was nothing, and she.
Speaker 1: She didn't more than choose not to tell him, she
Speaker 1: sort of doubled down and made dinner was super super
Speaker 1: nice because she's so uncomfortablebout the whole thing. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: we see that famous Michael temper, right, and he's like,
Speaker 1: why did you not tell me? And I love it.
Speaker 1: She had this great line and she said this is why.
Speaker 4: This is why. Because he goes.
Speaker 1: Instead of saying you have I'm so scared, he said,
Speaker 1: I felt like a complete ass any rageous and then
Speaker 1: she says, it's always how you feel, keeping Michael happy,
Speaker 1: that's what this marriage is about. And he goes and
Speaker 1: what the hell is wrong with that? She goes everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you start to see these real because his rage is
Speaker 1: a real issue. And then he goes to the hospital
Speaker 1: and guess who's there, yep, yeah, and she says, no
Speaker 1: questions asked.
Speaker 5: Kimberly's there, and she says we can have breakfast, no
Speaker 5: questions asked. And that just sounds like a really appealing alternative.
Speaker 4: I'm starting to realize.
Speaker 2: When I was getting to that scene at the end,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I can handle
Speaker 2: this show, because it's really all these people believe. I
Speaker 2: don't know how people hung in there for fives us
Speaker 2: because it's so wrong how they're acting like that in
Speaker 2: this marriage you just want them to communicate so that
Speaker 2: whatever happens forces on the outside at work or an
Speaker 2: old friend, you're stronger, you know, like I we want
Speaker 2: with our partners like we're a team no matter what happens.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well it's that old thing and my wife
Speaker 1: doesn't understand me, right, So it goes to the hospital
Speaker 1: and he says to Kimberly, how come it's so easy
Speaker 1: to talk to you? And then I blow it at
Speaker 1: home so I don't know what home is anymore? And
Speaker 1: she says exactly the line you're talking Aboutlaura. Home is
Speaker 1: where you're appreciated. We're son by breakfast, no questions asked,
Speaker 1: and yeah, all right, let me do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah your definition of home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like terrible to stand me, but you we have
Speaker 1: everything in common. And she is just rare into go
Speaker 1: like she is fully available. She's making no bones about it.
Speaker 2: And you know how Thomas is playing this is so like,
Speaker 2: oh the dufist, you know what I mean, like the
Speaker 2: evil dufist, like evils.
Speaker 3: Come on, not a Midwestern but an evil dufist.
Speaker 4: Michael Mancini is such an evil dufus.
Speaker 2: He says to Kimberlay, how come there's there's not working
Speaker 2: at home, as if she's not gonna step into that
Speaker 2: and take advantage of this dufus you evil dufus home.
Speaker 4: Let me buy you a breakfast.
Speaker 1: That's what every cheater starts with, right. My wife doesn't
Speaker 1: understand me. Our marriage is over anyway, it's we have
Speaker 1: an understanding or whatever we could get.
Speaker 4: Yes, we put into all the lands. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Again, this was a really great episode of irreconcilable shimilarities, similarities.
Speaker 1: Chuck is great at like the lines right, Like I
Speaker 1: wrote down so many lines he did. It was really fun.
Speaker 2: And there's a nice balance of each of the different
Speaker 2: couples and their their path but also the rom com
Speaker 2: with the Alison and Billie of it all.
Speaker 4: The rom com vibe and the stick it to you
Speaker 4: Melrose vibe. Like it was a great balance of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and did you notice more shorter scenes. There were
Speaker 1: so many scenes people weaving and not like it moved.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember in the beginning we have like four long scenes.
Speaker 1: It was moving so fast and everybody got woven in,
Speaker 1: like even though like obviously Ronda and Matt didn't have
Speaker 1: much and Joe didn't have as much as normal, but
Speaker 1: still they were all throughout.
Speaker 5: I forgot to tell you where Matt's line was. It
Speaker 5: was at the campfire and some And Ronda has her
Speaker 5: second line of the episode. Her first is when she
Speaker 5: comes over Ronda's and she comes over and says, after
Speaker 5: Michael and janea fought, she knocks on their door and
Speaker 5: she walks in.
Speaker 3: She's like, Hey, which one of us is driving the party?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's a super awkward moment because obviously Michael
Speaker 5: and Jane are Friday.
Speaker 3: That's her first line.
Speaker 5: Then her second line is, hey, did anybody bring any
Speaker 5: Does anybody remember their old camp fire songs?
Speaker 3: That was their second line.
Speaker 5: And Matt has his first line where he says, nope,
Speaker 5: I left my ukulele at home.
Speaker 4: I don't remember it at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I was waiting.
Speaker 2: To see what Amanda and Allison, We're going to stay
Speaker 2: over in the corner to each other that fight.
Speaker 1: I in my memory, Alison was much more passive. I
Speaker 1: like that she's got this spice. I didn't remember fighting.
Speaker 3: She said, but she thought enjoying it.
Speaker 5: And I think that that that really sets us up
Speaker 5: for the next episodes. It's like game on because these
Speaker 5: relationships people have kind of said what they think now,
Speaker 5: and now I feel like, okay, yeah, I get to
Speaker 5: go be these other versions in the.
Speaker 2: I feel like I can't wait for the next The
Speaker 2: wagon's kind of going off the tracks, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like because Kimberly is in.
Speaker 4: I don't know if she's in the next one or not,
Speaker 4: but I have a feeling she is.
Speaker 2: Keith has taken Alison off like things are just kind
Speaker 2: of anything can happen.
Speaker 1: I don't remember being in Seattle.
Speaker 4: It probably was Anna Karita. The funny thing.
Speaker 1: I know we have to end, But one more funny
Speaker 1: thing did you notice in it? Like the first scene
Speaker 1: when we were we come from the ceiling and Billy's
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and Amanda walks in and goes, look at this
Speaker 1: gorgeous day. We're living in paradise, And she looks like
Speaker 1: she's going to open the curtains, but it opens a
Speaker 1: little bit and you see it's just a cement patio,
Speaker 1: so she doesn't actually open the curtains.
Speaker 5: They went.
Speaker 1: Curtains.
Speaker 4: I know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: It's so funny because that that part of the marina
Speaker 2: is such a beautiful part to show. But that was
Speaker 2: just like the outside shots, you know, the exteriors, boom
Speaker 2: into her fancy apartment and then boom or did in
Speaker 2: sound Karita and there's.
Speaker 1: It should be the ocean and she pretends to open it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, close it yeah.
Speaker 2: And also the idea that no, we didn't pay for
Speaker 2: that view.
Speaker 4: Oh my boyfriend's on the floor.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll focus on that a big deal. All right, Well,
Speaker 3: this was fun and it's super fun if.
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