Speaker 1: Welcome. It is the Ben Ferguson Show.
Speaker 2: We've got a show for you that's going to really
Speaker 2: be interesting and you're probably gonna take some notes today
Speaker 2: because it deals with two really big issues, including a
Speaker 2: massive invasion of legal immigrants in Spain and doctor Fauci
Speaker 2: had a lot to say sarcasm insert it right there
Speaker 2: in Washington, DC this week.
Speaker 3: Well, Fauci's testimony before Congress was absolutely disgraceful. We're going
Speaker 3: to get into that in depth, but first we're going
Speaker 3: to talk about what is happening in Spain, because it
Speaker 3: is outrageous, It is frightening, it is terrifying. If you
Speaker 3: have not watched these images online, if you're watching this
Speaker 3: on YouTube, you can see it on the YouTube show.
Speaker 3: If you haven't, go and Google watch it with your eyes,
Speaker 3: because I cannot with my voice do justice to what's
Speaker 3: happening in Spain.
Speaker 4: Spain is being invaded.
Speaker 3: Thousands upon thousands of people from Morocco are coming over,
Speaker 3: one after the other after the other, and there's not
Speaker 3: another word to describe it.
Speaker 4: It is an invasion.
Speaker 3: It reminds me very much of what happened in Texas
Speaker 3: on the southern border and in particular in Del Rio.
Speaker 3: And if you remember Del Rio, which is a town
Speaker 3: in the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas. It's a
Speaker 3: town of about thirty thousand people. And in one day,
Speaker 3: more than ten thousand Haitian illegal immigrants crossed the Rio
Speaker 3: grand crossed into the United States, into the small town
Speaker 3: of Del Rio. It was an absolute invasion.
Speaker 4: I was there. I was there.
Speaker 3: In fact, I filmed it and put out the video
Speaker 3: of what was happening in Del Rio. You had thousands
Speaker 3: upon thousands of Haitians under a bridge, under a giant overpass,
Speaker 3: and it looked like it looked like the Third World.
Speaker 3: It was suddenly in America. It looked like you were
Speaker 3: in Haiti. They were just basically shanty towns. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: it was designed by the administration and the drug cartels.
Speaker 3: The Mexican cartels made the decision to send the Haitians
Speaker 3: to the southern border, to Del Rio, and to send
Speaker 3: them over an invasion, and the Democrats welcomed them. Well,
Speaker 3: the same thing is happening in Spain and it is horrified.
Speaker 3: And I say this without hyperbole. I think we are
Speaker 3: witnessing civilizational suicide in Europe. They are destroying the great
Speaker 3: nations of Europe, and understand, this is not happening accidentally.
Speaker 3: It's just like what happened in Texas for the four
Speaker 3: years of the Biden administration, where the invasion was by design.
Speaker 4: The left hates the West.
Speaker 3: Yep, this is what Mandami and the other communists wants.
Speaker 3: This is what the DSA wants when they say open borders,
Speaker 3: when they say abolish ice. They want this invasion for
Speaker 3: the same purpose. It's the same reason the socialists in Spain,
Speaker 3: who unfortunately are in control of that government, they want
Speaker 3: to destroy Spanish civilization, and tragically, these American leftists want
Speaker 3: to destroy American civilization.
Speaker 2: You know, I was talking about this earlier day, and
Speaker 2: I want to get your take on this, but but
Speaker 2: one of the things I said was, I think part
Speaker 2: of the reason why we're witnessing these types of invasions,
Speaker 2: and really it's happening not just in Spain, but we're
Speaker 2: seeing massive illegal immigration numbers all throughout Europe that have spiked.
Speaker 2: And as you described it, I think it's spot on
Speaker 2: that we're watching the crumbling of civilization and actually having
Speaker 2: pride in a nation, right, you just get rid of
Speaker 2: the nation. It's kumbaiiaism of the left and the communes
Speaker 2: and the socialists. But I also think part of why
Speaker 2: this is happening right now in Europe is Donald Trump
Speaker 2: one reelection, got back to the White House by saying
Speaker 2: I'm going to secure the southern border and I'm going
Speaker 2: to stop the invasion that your witness sing on TV,
Speaker 2: the videos that you took. I still go back to
Speaker 2: that moment where I think we saw the tide change,
Speaker 2: and that was when the federal government under the Biden
Speaker 2: administration used that forklift and raised up that bob wire
Speaker 2: in Texas and people came flooding into America. That for
Speaker 2: me was a picture is worth right a thousand words,
Speaker 2: however you want to describe it. But when you can't
Speaker 2: come to America anymore, the way that you were able
Speaker 2: to buy the millions and millions under the Biden and
Speaker 2: the b administration combined and the leftist policies.
Speaker 1: Where are you going to go next? Europe? Europe would
Speaker 1: be your next stop.
Speaker 2: And now they're getting what would have a lot of
Speaker 2: people that probably would have tried to keep coming to
Speaker 2: America if the Democrats were in charge.
Speaker 3: Well, and this is also the Islamization of Europe. These
Speaker 3: illegal immigrants that are invading the country, they are essentially
Speaker 3: entirely Muslim, and you're saying, you know, there was a
Speaker 3: meme online that showed President Trump flying in Air Force
Speaker 3: one and looking out the window and saying, my goodness,
Speaker 3: Pakistan is just horrible. What's happening there? And an aide
Speaker 3: stops and says, I'm mister president, that's London. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: Europe is deliberately and we're seeing this throughout. Europe has
Speaker 3: allowed the entire continent to face an invasion from the
Speaker 3: Middle East, face an invasion from Africa, and it is
Speaker 3: changed the underlying character of the continent, and you're seeing,
Speaker 3: you're seeing the consequences. Look, I think Europe is foreshadowing
Speaker 3: where the United States will go if we.
Speaker 4: Don't stop this.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 3: And it's about ten years ahead of us. So in
Speaker 3: some ways, you can look to Spain and it's like
Speaker 3: you're looking at a crystal ball. You can see and
Speaker 3: by the way, it'll happen faster than ten years, if
Speaker 3: God forbid, Elizabeth Warren or Gavin Newsom ReOC becomes president.
Speaker 3: The same invasion we're seeing in Spain, the same invasion
Speaker 3: that we saw under Joe Biden will happen again. And
Speaker 3: the reason is the same because the left, they want
Speaker 3: these illegal immigrants to destroy Western civilization, to destroy American civilization,
Speaker 3: to tear down the constitution, the foundations of free enterprise,
Speaker 3: the foundations of rule of law. And you know, I
Speaker 3: have to wonder what a typical Spanish citizen is thinking
Speaker 3: right now, and listen.
Speaker 4: What I fear is that what they.
Speaker 3: Might be thinking is the same thing that the idiot
Speaker 3: voters who voted for Mandami and the other communists in
Speaker 3: America are thinking, which is this is a great thing,
Speaker 3: this is a wonderful thing. I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: looking away and just just averting their eyes or if
Speaker 3: they think wonderful, what a blessing. But I'll tell you
Speaker 3: one thing that is deeply chilling about these images, the
Speaker 3: videos that are coming up. The videos I saw, there
Speaker 3: was not a single woman or there was not a
Speaker 3: single child. Yeah, these are all military age men. There
Speaker 3: are men from about fifteen to about forty and they're
Speaker 3: coming one after the other, after the other, after the other,
Speaker 3: and and and and by the way, like one one
Speaker 3: fellow on Twitter put it, put out a very good question.
Speaker 3: He said, what what is the purpose of having an
Speaker 3: army if thousands of foreign invaders can just cross your
Speaker 3: border and invade your country.
Speaker 4: Because that is what is happening.
Speaker 2: And and by the way, no vetting. Let's be clear,
Speaker 2: there was a there was a really interesting video that
Speaker 2: got released. It showed the government opening up a gate
Speaker 2: and allowing men. There was no women or children. Hundreds
Speaker 2: and hundreds are rushing. I don't know how deep it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be thousands and thousands. No one
Speaker 2: is vetting if these are terrorists, if they're drug cartel members,
Speaker 2: if they're setting up human chance.
Speaker 3: And we know they are, we know that they're a
Speaker 3: terrorist among them. We know that there are cartel members
Speaker 3: members and criminals and murderers and rapists. We know that
Speaker 3: because that's what happened in America's what's happening there too,
Speaker 3: And it is part of the left's design.
Speaker 2: The left will say the same thing that we heard
Speaker 2: when they were basically justifying the invasion into the United
Speaker 2: States of America. These are families, these are women and children.
Speaker 2: They're just looking for a better life. You go down
Speaker 2: the Rio Grande, you go down to the border, and
Speaker 2: what we were witnessing coming across the border was not
Speaker 2: a lot of families. It was a lot of military
Speaker 2: age men as well. It was people that were smuggling people.
Speaker 2: They would act like a child was their child, when
Speaker 2: it actually really even was not their child. By the way,
Speaker 2: the Biden administration lost well over one hundred thousand kids
Speaker 2: that they gave to people in the US and just
Speaker 2: disappeared into sciuty. God knows what's happening to some of
Speaker 2: them even to this day. But you look at Spain,
Speaker 2: this invasion terrifies me from the standpoint center that it's
Speaker 2: clear that there's somebody behind it. It is orchestrated in
Speaker 2: a way. It is the military age men. It's almost
Speaker 2: like they're saying, we can set up a network, we
Speaker 2: can make a ton of money, we can set up
Speaker 2: drug cartels and drugs coming through human trafficking, like it's
Speaker 2: setting up an apparatus. And then, as you mentioned, we
Speaker 2: know people on the terrorists watch lists are coming across
Speaker 2: our southern border.
Speaker 1: We knew we caught a lot of them.
Speaker 2: We don't know how many we didn't catch or sleep
Speaker 2: or sales there even in America. Right now Trump administration
Speaker 2: working on that. But that's part of this conversation, we
Speaker 2: have to talk about.
Speaker 3: Well, and what happened in the United States, and under
Speaker 3: Biden the Democrats was even worse. There were many military
Speaker 3: age men who came over. There were also families, There
Speaker 3: were also children, the children who were physically abused, sexually
Speaker 3: abused by the human traffickers, by adult men who is
Speaker 3: eventually rented children because for a time the policy was
Speaker 3: if you arrived with a child, you got to stay.
Speaker 3: And so you saw the same children rented over and
Speaker 3: over again. And by the way, it wasn't just more
Speaker 3: than one hundred thousand children the Biden administration lost. It
Speaker 3: was more than three hundred thousand children that they lost
Speaker 3: that they had in government custody, unaccompanied miners, and they
Speaker 3: handed to adults and they don't know where they are.
Speaker 3: They just lost them. One of the most important things
Speaker 3: the Trump administration has been doing is going and finding
Speaker 3: many of those kids and rescuing some of those kids
Speaker 3: from sexual assault, from being sexually trafficked, from being in
Speaker 3: child labor situations, from being physically abused. And the Democrats
Speaker 3: didn't care that. They didn't care, they didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the press didn't care. They didn't
Speaker 3: care about the kids being abused. But I will tell
Speaker 3: you at the southern border there were also times where
Speaker 3: you saw a large influx of military age men. I've
Speaker 3: been down the southern border during Biden when I saw,
Speaker 3: for example, groups of Chinese men. Now I checked, I'm
Speaker 3: no geography expert, but China is not below our southern border.
Speaker 3: But yet they were being brought in by human traffickers
Speaker 3: all the way from China. I was told by customs
Speaker 3: and border patrol at the going rate for a Chinese
Speaker 3: illegal immigrant to pay the coyotes was fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: to come into this country. And I saw groups just
Speaker 3: sitting there of military age men by the hundreds, in
Speaker 3: groups with no kids among them, and all Chinese like
Speaker 3: that had been apprehended, and that the Biden administration was
Speaker 3: releasing into this country. And I guarantee you a significant
Speaker 3: number of those Chinese military age men are working for
Speaker 3: the Chinese Communist Party as spies or other subversives doing
Speaker 3: damage to this country. But look, one of the things
Speaker 3: that we now know conclusively for a fact is that
Speaker 3: being subject.
Speaker 4: To invasion is a choice. Yes, it's not an accident.
Speaker 3: It's not something look, during the Biden administration, one of
Speaker 3: the talking points that that Biden used, that Kamala Harris used,
Speaker 3: that Alojandro Mayorcis used, is well, we're trying, we just can't.
Speaker 3: We're just unable to stop it. It's just, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, We're not We're not very good at it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: They also, by the way, tried, tried the gas lighting
Speaker 3: of saying the border is secure, everything's fine. Don't believe
Speaker 3: your lying eyes. And we now know one hundred percent
Speaker 3: certainty that was a lie. How do we know that?
Speaker 3: Because the instant Donald Trump came back into the White House,
Speaker 3: illegal border crossings dropped ninety nine percent. So the statement
Speaker 3: that they couldn't secure the border was proven exactly false.
Speaker 3: And the only thing that changed is you had a
Speaker 3: president who would suddenly follow the law. And and and
Speaker 3: there is one policy question that determines illegal immigration more
Speaker 3: than anything else.
Speaker 4: And it's not it's.
Speaker 3: Not, first of all, a wall or or personnel or
Speaker 3: boots on the ground or anything else. It's one simple
Speaker 3: policy question, what happens when you apprehend someone here illegally?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 4: And if the answer is that.
Speaker 3: You put them on a plane, you put them on
Speaker 3: a bus and you send them back to the country
Speaker 3: they came from. Everyone who comes to this country illegally
Speaker 3: or just about every person is carrying with them a
Speaker 3: cell phone. And what happens is when you start flying
Speaker 3: them home, they call on the phone and they tell
Speaker 3: tell their friends, they tell their relatives, don't come, they
Speaker 3: won't let you stay, and the numbers drop immediately. That's
Speaker 3: what happened at the beginning of the Trump administration. The
Speaker 3: same thing happens on the flip side. So what Joe
Speaker 3: Biden the Democrats did is they just ignored federal immigration law.
Speaker 3: Federal immigration law says illegal immigrants who are detained, shall
Speaker 3: be detained, shall be deported, Shall is a mandatory legal word.
Speaker 3: And they just said, we don't care, doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: the law is, We're not to follow it. And again,
Speaker 3: they all have cell phones. So once they discover, hey,
Speaker 3: when we get here, they let us go, They could
Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call home. Now, I want
Speaker 3: to read to you what Pedro Sanchez, who is the
Speaker 3: socialist Prime Minister of Spain said about this invasion. He
Speaker 3: sent out a tweet that says, quote, the government of
Speaker 3: Spain is fully committed to providing an immediate response to
Speaker 3: the situation in Suta. We are mobilizing all necessary resources,
Speaker 3: working with Moroccan and international authorities, and preparing the necessary
Speaker 3: measures to restore normalcy as soon as possible. I just
Speaker 3: conveyed this to President Juan vivaslatter. This is the moment
Speaker 3: to build solutions with responsibility and cooperation. Now, now, that
Speaker 3: is leftist code word for we are going to do nothing,
Speaker 3: although what he may try to do. We are going
Speaker 3: to ask that they invade our country slightly less blatantly,
Speaker 3: so that we don't have images of them invading by
Speaker 3: the thousand.
Speaker 4: Just spread it out a little.
Speaker 3: We're fine being invaded by a Muslim whore that is
Speaker 3: destroying Spain, but just don't make it so obvious we
Speaker 3: can't ignore it. That's what he is meaning. That's what
Speaker 3: he is saying, and it is. It is the agenda
Speaker 3: not just of the European Socialist it is the agenda Mandami,
Speaker 3: It is the agenda of Bernie Sanders, it is the
Speaker 3: agenda of just about every single Democrat in the Congress.
Speaker 3: When the DSA says we want open borders, they mean it.
Speaker 3: They want our civilization destroyed.
Speaker 2: We got to break down center Anthony Fauci, the guy
Speaker 2: that told you who you can eat with, how far
Speaker 2: you had to stay away from somebody, when you could
Speaker 2: go to church, couldn't go to church, you know, bankrupt
Speaker 2: in a lot of small businesses. You know that Anthony Fauci,
Speaker 2: who also told you, if you just got that shot,
Speaker 2: we were gonna stop the spread in two weeks.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Took two years of your kid's you know, education away
Speaker 2: from them. But that guy who always found the camera,
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, he's wanting to be really quiet.
Speaker 3: Well, we had a modern day miracle play out in Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. Number one, a legitimate saint, a saint who
Speaker 3: saved the world, came to Congress. And number two, a
Speaker 3: man who had an opinion on everything, who knew the
Speaker 3: answer to every question, who simply shared his wisdom with
Speaker 3: us in volcanic eruptions, suddenly had nothing to say. If
Speaker 3: you were pissed off at the Moroccan invasion of Spain,
Speaker 3: I promise you you were every bit as pissed off
Speaker 3: at watching the pious, self righteous Anthony Fauci come before
Speaker 3: Congress this week. Now, now he gave a really detailed
Speaker 3: explanation of all all of his wisdom about the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 3: I want you to listen to the entirety of his
Speaker 3: opening statement.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's incredible. Say you don't even need
Speaker 2: to take a sip of water. It'll be over that fast.
Speaker 2: Take a listen.
Speaker 5: Although it pains me to do so, because of the
Speaker 5: respect I have for the legislative branch of government and
Speaker 5: my decades long record of cooperating with Congress. Under the
Speaker 5: advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under
Speaker 5: the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering
Speaker 5: your questions.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 1: By the way, Sen he's not lying in that statement.
Speaker 2: When he said my lawyers he came in with a
Speaker 2: I mean an army of lawyers behind him.
Speaker 4: Well he did. And and mind you, this is someone
Speaker 4: who just.
Speaker 3: Just a couple of years ago, in twenty twenty two
Speaker 3: said he quote had nothing to hide, And in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two he told CNN quote, I am very happy
Speaker 3: to testify before any Congressional oversight committee.
Speaker 4: Here. Give a listen to what he said back in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: Well, if I become a punching bag, I'm a punching bag.
Speaker 6: But I am very happy to testify before any Congressional
Speaker 6: Oversight committee. I have nothing to hide. I have I
Speaker 6: can explain and validate everything that I've done. So you
Speaker 6: know it's going to be inconvenient if they actually are
Speaker 6: out there essentially threatening to make my life miserable. But
Speaker 6: it's I mean, I'm going to do what I need
Speaker 6: to do, and that is cooperate fully because we have
Speaker 6: nothing to hide at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I got to ask a technicality question here,
Speaker 2: because for people that are listening, can you explain to
Speaker 2: me you get a preemptive pardon in theories? Shouldn't that
Speaker 2: center just free you up to do exactly what the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Anthony Fauci had to say there that Hey,
Speaker 2: I'll testify before anybody.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you anything. I've already been pardoned.
Speaker 2: Why would your attorneys, and it was an army of
Speaker 2: attorneys that came with into Capitol Hill tell you not
Speaker 2: to answer any questions at all if you've already been.
Speaker 3: Pardoned, because a pardon is retrospective, A pardon immunizes him
Speaker 3: for criminal conduct he committed in the past. Got prior
Speaker 3: to the day that Joe Biden pardoned him. The pardon
Speaker 3: does not immunize him for crimes that he commits in
Speaker 3: the future. And the reason he pleaded the fifth is
Speaker 3: as alternative as he was going to lie through his
Speaker 3: teeth and lying under oath to Congress as a felony
Speaker 3: punishable by serious jail time. That's the reason he pleaded
Speaker 3: the fifth, not because of past conduct, but because he
Speaker 3: intended to lie and listen, two significant things changed. Number One,
Speaker 3: Merrick Garland is no longer Attorney General. The corrupt, politicized
Speaker 3: Biden Department of Justice is no longer there. He could
Speaker 3: say I'm very happy to testify before Congress because he
Speaker 3: could get up and brazenly lie with no compunction because
Speaker 3: the chance I mean, I mean he could. It didn't
Speaker 3: matter what he said, it didn't matter what he did.
Speaker 4: He could have.
Speaker 3: Shot someone in congressional hearing, and the Biden Department of
Speaker 3: Justice was not going to do anything about it. They
Speaker 3: knew he was lying, they didn't care. They wanted him
Speaker 3: to lie, so not even they didn't care, they wanted
Speaker 3: him to lie. The Trump Department of Justice, if he
Speaker 3: lies under oath, you better believe they will prosecute him
Speaker 3: and put him in jail. So but the critical admission
Speaker 3: is that means he intended to lie in this hearing. Now,
Speaker 3: what's the second thing that changed. The second thing that
Speaker 3: changed is his diary came out.
Speaker 2: Yes, one hell of a diary. By the way, by
Speaker 2: the way, I gotta ask, do you do you do it?
Speaker 4: Do you do it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't understand anybody that does. That's
Speaker 2: like our age. I don't get it. I've never understood it.
Speaker 2: But like, this diary was like a manifesto for narcissism.
Speaker 2: Like if you want to say, hey, if you've got
Speaker 2: a daughter, just tell him, don't ever marry a guy
Speaker 2: that does this, like rights this way, talks this way
Speaker 2: about himself.
Speaker 1: It was I mean, it's off the chains narcissism.
Speaker 3: Well, look that that's not an exaggeration. The diary demonstrates
Speaker 3: this man is a narcissistic sociopath where where he number
Speaker 3: one is a brazen liar. But he is so self centered.
Speaker 3: And we on Monday's podcast we went into depth on
Speaker 3: in terms of what the diary said. But here's his problem. So,
Speaker 3: for example, one of the things the diary said is
Speaker 3: that he knew early in the pandemic. He said, we
Speaker 3: now know that the covid virus did not come from
Speaker 3: the Chinese wet market.
Speaker 4: Yep, now mind you.
Speaker 3: He later on decided, no, I don't want people to
Speaker 3: know that the covid virus came from the Wuhan Institute
Speaker 3: for Virology, because if they know that, they're going to
Speaker 3: figure out that it was created or modified with gain
Speaker 3: of function research paid for by doctor Anthony Fauci, that
Speaker 3: he was responsible for the funding the research that created
Speaker 3: or modified the covid virus to make it more transmissible,
Speaker 3: to make it more deadly, to make it target humans
Speaker 3: more effectively. And so he was covering up his own
Speaker 3: culpability when he spread the story, Oh, this came from
Speaker 3: just you know, bats at the wet market. We know
Speaker 3: in writing, he said, early on, we know for a
Speaker 3: fact this did not originate in the wet market. The
Speaker 3: wet market simply amplified it, but it did not originate there.
Speaker 3: So why did he plead the fifth Because if he
Speaker 3: repeated that lie, he would immediately be confronted with his
Speaker 3: diary and he would be asked, were you lying when
Speaker 3: you told Congress the opposite? His choice would be one
Speaker 3: of two things. Number one, admit yes, I'm a liar,
Speaker 3: don't believe anything I said.
Speaker 4: And mind you when I say narcissists.
Speaker 3: Remember this is someone who, in the midst of COVID said,
Speaker 3: when you criticize me, you are criticizing science. I am
Speaker 3: the science, and science with like a trademark. I mean,
Speaker 3: he embodied science, and he's not capable of saying I'm
Speaker 3: an unprincipled, shameless liar. So the alternative is he would
Speaker 3: lie and say no, no, no, I was telling the truth.
Speaker 3: That would be perjury. Or it's actually not perjury. Technically
Speaker 3: it's lying under oath would which is different from perjury
Speaker 3: but punishable the same as a felony. And so likewise,
Speaker 3: another instance, he says in his diary, how proud he was,
Speaker 3: how thrilled he was when he called Democrat politicians in
Speaker 3: New York and in California and convinced them to shut
Speaker 3: down schools, convince them to shut down churches, convince them
Speaker 3: to shut.
Speaker 4: Down small businesses.
Speaker 3: And those decisions had catastrophically devastating consequences. Shutting down the schools,
Speaker 3: I think we will look back in history as the
Speaker 3: school shut down as the most inexplicable, damaging public policy
Speaker 3: decision of modern times. The data now show that because
Speaker 3: tens of millions of kids had their schools shut down
Speaker 3: for more than a year, Democrat politicians that we have
Speaker 3: witnessed the single largest learning loss in recorded history since
Speaker 3: we began measuring it. We also saw the racial gap
Speaker 3: divide between African American kids and white kids, and the
Speaker 3: divide between Hispanic kids and white kids grow more during
Speaker 3: the COVID shutdowns than again in any period since we
Speaker 3: began measuring it. Well after everyone saw what a disaster
Speaker 3: the shutdowns were, Fauci repeatedly went on TV and said, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't ur shutdowns. I wasn't in favor of shutdowns.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That wasn't me.
Speaker 4: That wasn't me, That wasn't me. We now know.
Speaker 3: We knew it then, but we now know conclusively out
Speaker 3: of his own words in the diary, that was a lie.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to be questioned about that lie, which
Speaker 3: is why he said, you know how many times he pleaded.
Speaker 1: The fifth uh huh, Well, like one hundred and eleven,
Speaker 1: hundred and ten times.
Speaker 3: It was crazy, one hundred and eleven times. It was
Speaker 3: utterly utterly shameless. Watching him one hundred and eleven times
Speaker 3: plead the fifth and refuse to answer anything was was infuriating,
Speaker 3: uh and also the contemptuous arrogance with which he did
Speaker 3: so made it even more infuriating. Here listen to this
Speaker 3: exchange where Josh Holly's questioning.
Speaker 7: Him what day of the week is it today? On
Speaker 7: the divisive Council. I respectfully declined to answer, based upon
Speaker 7: my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1: The color tie you're wearing.
Speaker 7: On the advisive Council, I respectfully declined to answer, based
Speaker 7: upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 1: What colors the carpet in front of you.
Speaker 7: On the advisive Council? I respectfully declined to answer based
Speaker 7: upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's you couldn't have written this type of
Speaker 2: absurdity compared to the entire Anthony Fauci we've known, you know,
Speaker 2: post COVID nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's right, and he's going to have a
Speaker 3: real problem. So the next step it is going to
Speaker 3: be a vote to hold him in contempt to Congress.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that was announced by Senator Paul like instantly
Speaker 2: after us.
Speaker 3: Yes, and and and and listen. It starts with a
Speaker 3: vote in his gag the Homeland Security and Government Afairs Committee,
Speaker 3: which ran chairs, and that's where, uh, where Fauchi was
Speaker 3: testifying and where he was subpoena. And my my full
Speaker 3: expectation is that that vote will be party line. That
Speaker 3: that that that uh, that committee has an eight to
Speaker 3: seven Republican majority, So I'm assuming all eight Republicans will
Speaker 3: vote for it, and I assume all seven Democrats will
Speaker 3: vote against it, and and and then it will go
Speaker 3: to the floor and and we'll have some procedural wrangling
Speaker 3: and battling it. It may well require sixty votes, but
Speaker 3: we'll see how that fight goes.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: But either way, Fauci is going to have a real
Speaker 3: problem claiming that the Fifth Amendment right it protects him
Speaker 3: because he has a blanket pardon. So once you have
Speaker 3: a pardon, the same thing is true like once you're
Speaker 3: given immunity, you can't claim the Fifth because the Fifth
Speaker 3: Amendment is a right to be protected from legal jeopardy,
Speaker 3: and a pardon makes the legal jeopardy go away. And
Speaker 3: so his argument for refusing to answer questions about the
Speaker 3: past is a really weak argument. I assume he will
Speaker 3: do some version of saying, well, this is a perjury trap.
Speaker 3: They're trying to trap me in perjury. There's a simple
Speaker 3: response to that is the way to avoid a perjury
Speaker 3: trap is don't lie, ye tell the truth. And I
Speaker 3: know the guy is an inveterate liar and he can't
Speaker 3: help himself. But you know, he could just agree with
Speaker 3: what he wrote in his diary. I don't know if
Speaker 3: his position was I was lying to my diary. And
Speaker 3: by the way, when it comes to a narcissist, you
Speaker 3: also see.
Speaker 4: Him just so excited. Oh cn ND's college. Oh this
Speaker 4: place is calling. They love me.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm a rock star. Oh they're jealous of me.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm so cool. Oh I'm so amazing, like like
Speaker 3: it it really was. I mean, there are aspects of
Speaker 3: the diary that almost read like the unibomber manifesto.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it is not even giving it a
Speaker 2: fair assessment, like that's under that that's two miles in
Speaker 2: my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, and this was so so Look, I will
Speaker 3: enthusiastically vote to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt.
Speaker 2: So what does that mean though for like average Americans
Speaker 2: that say, okay, so what like, then what happens.
Speaker 3: The Department of Justice can can prosecute the contempt holding.
Speaker 3: So you recall back during during Obama and the House
Speaker 3: of Representatives voted to hold Eric Holder the Attorney General
Speaker 3: in contempt. Yep uh, that contempt finding is not self executing.
Speaker 3: What happens then, and the House did it during Obama
Speaker 3: as they referred it to the Justice Department. Now, the
Speaker 3: person who made the decision what to do on that
Speaker 3: would be Eric Holder. And oddly enough, Eric Holder did
Speaker 3: not want to prosecute Eric Holder for contempt of Congress,
Speaker 3: so he did nothing.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was completely it was.
Speaker 3: And by the way, that's why Fauci was not worried
Speaker 3: at all about testifying before Congress as long as the
Speaker 3: Biden Justice Department was there, because they will never hold
Speaker 3: him to account for anything. He felt completely protected and
Speaker 3: immunized and safe. It never occurred to him like it
Speaker 3: was truly unthinkable to this narcissist that Donald Trump could
Speaker 3: be re elected. That is a nightmare beyond anything he
Speaker 3: could have imagined. And now suddenly he has a Department
Speaker 3: of Justice that will hold him in contempt. And look,
Speaker 3: my assumption I don't know this, but I actually assume
Speaker 3: on this contempt finding, I think all fifty three Reportsupblicans, uh,
Speaker 3: would would would vote to hold.
Speaker 4: Him in contempt. I don't know that we would lose anyone.
Speaker 4: I hope we wouldn't. Certainly an easy easy vote for me.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: But but look, there there are some issues on which
Speaker 3: we we all know the fifty three Republicans, that we
Speaker 3: lose some on different questions. I'd be surprised, uh if
Speaker 3: we lost anyone. I mean, it was you couldn't watch
Speaker 3: this this exchange without just just being infuriated beyond words
Speaker 3: and and you know the that there's just an arrogance
Speaker 3: that that that this man. Look you know when when
Speaker 3: when we started started the pod and I said, you know,
Speaker 3: we saw a saint testify the degree to which the
Speaker 3: Democrats and the media deified him like.
Speaker 4: Like, actually saint is too low. He was above saints.
Speaker 3: He he he he was a god if they believe,
Speaker 3: if they believed it, if they believed in God, they
Speaker 3: would say that.
Speaker 4: But he was the.
Speaker 3: Equivalent of a god to them. And he still thinks
Speaker 3: he is. He thinks he is untouchable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is amazing.
Speaker 2: Final question, do you believe we will ever see Anthony
Speaker 2: Fauci held accountable criminally for what he did to this country?
Speaker 2: The lies he told, I mean, he ruined people's lives financially,
Speaker 2: he ruined people's families, He ruined people's ability to celebrate,
Speaker 2: He ruined people's ability to even bury their family members.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that think the lies
Speaker 2: that he told, and also I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people feel like he lied to them straight up on
Speaker 2: the COVID nineteen vaccine, that you can undo the decisions
Speaker 2: you made there.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I very much hope.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I believe he should be criminally prosecuted. I believe he
Speaker 3: should go to jail. I think he's the most damaging
Speaker 3: bureaucrat in America's history. I think he deliberately lied to
Speaker 3: the American people, lied to Congress under oath. The challenge
Speaker 3: of prosecuting him for past crimes is the pardon. Now,
Speaker 3: there is an argument that because it was auto penned,
Speaker 3: you could make the argument that unless you can prove
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden was aware that he had pardoned him
Speaker 3: and made the decision to pardon him, that the pardon
Speaker 3: is not valid, that might possibly be litigated.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the evidence is one way or
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 3: Alternatively, you could see state prosecutors. The pardon does not
Speaker 3: immunize him from liability for state offenses, you could see
Speaker 3: state prosecutors charge him. Additionally, the pardon does not eliminate
Speaker 3: civil liability, so anyone whose lives were lost, whose kids
Speaker 3: were hurt, can sue the living daylights out of him.
Speaker 3: And I hope this guy gets sued for the rest
Speaker 3: of his life for the damage he did.
Speaker 1: Don't forget.
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