WEBVTT - Episode 438: All Our Takeaways Following The Mariners Trade Deadline

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode number four thirty eight of the Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Layer Podcast. The trade deadline has passed and we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts on how the Mariners did and what lays

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<v Speaker 1>ahead in the final two months of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it rolling, and we've welcome this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>recording here on Monday afternoon, August third. The trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>is over lyle and I will say I feel very neah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of my reaction just ugh. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have a word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just lines up with the Mariner season. The Mariner

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<v Speaker 1>season this year has been kind of neh, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline has been kind of ne kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>To which one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Both, well, especially the season. The season has not kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been mad. The season has been has been a

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<v Speaker 2>complete letdown, And I would put the trade deadline in

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<v Speaker 2>a similar bucket.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the result of their season is that they're like

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<v Speaker 1>essentially a five hundred baseball team, which really is just

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<v Speaker 1>like a meh, that's that's what that is five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But when your expectations are set preseason of you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go to the World Series or have a really

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<v Speaker 2>good chance, no, like the drop off there is more

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<v Speaker 2>than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, I will judge the season as a whole

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<v Speaker 1>is a bigger disappointment than the trade deadline itself. The

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline is what we expected. We've been saying for weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>this trade deadline was gonna be underwhelming, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>can't just arrive to Monday afternoon after three o'clock and say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can't believe how underwhelming that was, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this not what we predicted?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it totally is an underwhelming trade deadline paired with

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<v Speaker 2>an underwhelming season.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look at all the players that got traded. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scrolling through my Twitter feed of every single player

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<v Speaker 1>they got moved. How many like really good players?

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<v Speaker 2>You like?

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<v Speaker 3>Dang it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm heartbroken the Mariners didn't get that guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Weaver. Definitely, he's been amazing this year. Jeff Hoffman

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<v Speaker 1>has all of the tools as a reliever to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really good arm I mean, there's not really a

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<v Speaker 1>bat out there that you're like, this is like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a perfect fit for the Mariners. This guy needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be on this team. I'm disappointed they didn't get them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like a whole lot of whatever. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners could have gotten marginally better by adding some more,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's there's just not a lot of good players available.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, there's not at all. And Jeff Hoffman, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to look further into what he's done since June,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been really good. He's really turned it around since

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<v Speaker 2>those first two months. How much you want to bet

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<v Speaker 2>the Jeff Hoffman thing has everything to do with the

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<v Speaker 2>contract he's owed and the Mariners not wanted to take

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<v Speaker 2>on money.

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<v Speaker 1>And Luke Weaver could be the exact same thing because

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<v Speaker 1>they make the same amount of money.

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<v Speaker 3>I would one hundred percent believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's any coincidence that the money that

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariner's subtracted by trading Luis Castile away and then

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<v Speaker 1>added by trading for Taylor Ward, Sir Anthony Dominguez Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is making some money as well. It nets out

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<v Speaker 1>only slightly below what Louis Castile was owded.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really think that's much of a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you mean the Mariners wouldn't add to their payroll.

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<v Speaker 2>What a shocker? Is that? What you mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think the Maritas would add to the payroll,

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<v Speaker 1>and it checks out. I mean, this front office and

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<v Speaker 1>ownership group does not spend money on their bullpen at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and this deadline kind of lines up with it. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had their chance the last couple of deadlines to make

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<v Speaker 1>a splash where they could have a reliever who makes

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<v Speaker 1>above market rate value, but that never ended up happening.

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<v Speaker 1>They never actually acquired any of those guys. There again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one guy. One guy ever Mariners have purposely signed

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<v Speaker 1>and given a decent amount of change to to pitch

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<v Speaker 1>in their bullpen, and he lasted four months on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster and was traded away in Ryan Stanek.

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Stanek.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and if Sir Anthony Domingez stays on this roster

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<v Speaker 1>through next year, that will be two of them.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to go back aways. Didn't they sign

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<v Speaker 2>Juan Nicassio, who was also awful back in twenty eighteen?

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<v Speaker 3>How much did they spend on him?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember him getting a decent chunk of change. Juan

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<v Speaker 2>Nicasio got a two year on tract that was worth

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen million bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>H goods, good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he was the Maybe he's the PTSD of why

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't think. I don't think one bad

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<v Speaker 2>move should negate all future potential bullpen signings. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, man, this goes back to a bigger picture,

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<v Speaker 2>and I talked about it in the reaction we just

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<v Speaker 2>put out on social media. This goes back to a

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<v Speaker 2>problem the Mariners have now had for the last calendar

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<v Speaker 2>year and have not addressed. They have still yet to address,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is they are a leverage bullpen arm short,

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<v Speaker 2>not a Sir Anthony Dominguez, not even a Jeff Hoffman,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean, maybe Jeff Hoffman two years ago would

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<v Speaker 2>have fit this mold, not current. Jeff Hoffman, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>they're missing, they still have not added, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>not added him since they whiffed on Joe on Durant.

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<v Speaker 2>They were this close to getting them. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>thought the deal was done last year. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>believed he was coming to Seattle, and then it got

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<v Speaker 2>what's the right word, I mean it got wiped away

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<v Speaker 2>last week.

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<v Speaker 3>From under them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got the rug pulled last second when Philly

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<v Speaker 2>came in last minute with a better deal in the

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<v Speaker 2>Twins eyes. But since then they have not added that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And we knew this trade market was going to be weak.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew this trade market was light. We knew it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't filled with household names, which is why we said

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<v Speaker 2>all off season, you have got to go get that

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<v Speaker 2>leverage arm. Jose Ferrara is not enough. I know he's

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<v Speaker 2>had a nice season really up until the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>but you needed somebody more proven in addition to that

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<v Speaker 2>to put in your bullpen, and it still doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you've run into problems. I am not heartbroken

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<v Speaker 2>over missing on Luke Weaver and Jeff Hoffman. Would they

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<v Speaker 2>have been nice additions for Seattle. Yes, the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't address this earlier. You've been dealing with a

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<v Speaker 2>leverage arm short in your bullpen all year and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to continue to deal with it because you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>address it at your deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the thing of the difference about approaching this

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<v Speaker 1>during the off season versus approaching this in season is

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<v Speaker 1>that you do have much more control in the off

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<v Speaker 1>seat of who you're adding to your roster, who's available

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<v Speaker 1>to add dear roster as opposed to the deadline. The

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<v Speaker 1>deadline is a random assortment of players based on how

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<v Speaker 1>their teams they're currently playing on are playing four months

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<v Speaker 1>into the season. Meanwhile, everyone in the off season is

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<v Speaker 1>just a free agent. You know they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a free agent years and years in advance because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how their contract is laid out. If you decide that

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's a better strategy for your team to

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<v Speaker 1>approach at the deadline, then you're going to run the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of there just not being enough guys available. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>the only guy that fell into the Duran bucket this

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<v Speaker 1>trade deadline was Mason Miller, who didn't end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>moved and Reportedly, the Padres were asking for Kate Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>back for back for Mason Miller, which comes out to this,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners are like, hey, we'd like Mason Miller, and

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Preler goes okay, only if you just essentially reverse

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<v Speaker 1>the trade I made last year, where you're gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>us a top three prospect in all of baseball in

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<v Speaker 1>turn for a closer with one last year of control,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and of course the Mariners were never

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that. That would be a terrible, terrible process.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and that would be it would be Draft Day

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<v Speaker 2>coming to life in real life where uh, Kevin Costner

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<v Speaker 2>calls up the Seahawks He's like, I want my picks back,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them, and A J. Preller is essentially doing

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing and he's like, yeah, I want my

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<v Speaker 2>I want a top prospect back, like top of the

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<v Speaker 2>line prospect. Otherwise forget it. It's it was Draft Day

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<v Speaker 2>coming to life. That's that's what that trade was, or

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<v Speaker 2>the trade.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the only guy, and it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like he was very available. It seemed like they were

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<v Speaker 1>only going to trade him for a crazy, crazy package.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the Mariners even offered one of their starters.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been reported all day that Kirby and Hancock

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<v Speaker 1>were still available and still on the table. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>only guy I could have seen them trading him for,

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<v Speaker 1>right who like not even like they weren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>trade for adlei Utchman. Who was the other biggest name

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<v Speaker 1>I think to be traded right well, But sadly it

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<v Speaker 1>was Freddy Peralta.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those two guys were maybe the two biggest

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<v Speaker 1>names besides Skill trade it at this deadline. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Mason Miller would have been the only guide that

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners could have justified trading one of those two

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<v Speaker 1>starters for. And the Padres ended up trading for a

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<v Speaker 1>starter anyway, in Casey myz Oh and Robbie Ray two

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<v Speaker 1>rentals instead of going after guys with more control. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of tells you, like maybe what

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariner's idea were to try and get that leverage

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<v Speaker 1>arm and when they couldn't get him, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be not Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it not feel like the Mariners were the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that leaked out that reported trade package? Does to me,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's be real, they're trying to save their skin

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. They did not want people clamoring and

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<v Speaker 2>clamoring about why didn't you go trade for Mason Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted that package leaked out there to try to

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<v Speaker 2>show people, hey, this is why we didn't trade for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Which fine. I don't think anybody disagrees about the notion

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<v Speaker 2>of not trading Kate Anderson for Mason Miller. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody believes that that would have been a bad trade

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<v Speaker 2>or would have been an overpay at the very least.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't It doesn't excuse you from the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you still haven't added this leverage arm. If you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like the price for Mason Miller, fine, but you

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<v Speaker 2>had a whole off season to figure this out, and

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't even have to be through free agency. If

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't going to sign a bullpen arm, there still

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<v Speaker 2>could have been a trade that you could have made

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<v Speaker 2>for a bullpen arm in the off season. And the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between the off season and now is you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a clock you were going up against. You could

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<v Speaker 2>have figured this out for four months time, and after

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<v Speaker 2>they added Jose Ferrara, they essentially decided we're good. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not good especially after you decided to run out

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<v Speaker 2>a six man rotation and put extra emphasis on all

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<v Speaker 2>these bullpen arms, and now some of them are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to feel like have the air come out of the

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<v Speaker 2>balloon a little bit? Bizarno for Rare. Obviously you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have Brash and Chriswell, they're on the il like this

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<v Speaker 2>is where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I wonder if the Mariners were ever interested in

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Weaver or Jeff Hoffe, or they weren't even on

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<v Speaker 1>the table. I mean, I don't even There wasn't much

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<v Speaker 1>connecting them to those two guys publicly, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And the Mariners sometimes keep things pretty close to

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<v Speaker 2>the vest. We hadn't heard anything about Ward other than

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<v Speaker 2>really us and other people talking about them and floating

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<v Speaker 2>the idea out there.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mariners aren't the opposite pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like the Mariners aren't like the Mets. The Mets

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<v Speaker 2>let reports leak and leak and leak and leak, and

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<v Speaker 2>then if finally something happens. When the Mariners have something happen,

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually just that passing reports it and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>passing bomb basically, So that's how it usually goes.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm gonna guess how the Mariners approach the reliever

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<v Speaker 1>part of this deadline they're gonna put. They put Mason

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<v Speaker 1>Miller on a pedestal up here, saying, if the if

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<v Speaker 1>the price makes sense, we're trading for this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think, and then the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>guys I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not convinced that they thought the relievers out there

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<v Speaker 1>available were that much better than the guys they currently have.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not you agree with that or not, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be my guess. And you factor in what you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to give up to acquire those guys, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be monetarily, which is stupid, it's two months worth of salary,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you could figure it out in the off

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<v Speaker 1>season you dump the contract away or whatever. You figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, or it's like the prospects that you give

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<v Speaker 1>up for it, which lines up with how the Mariners

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<v Speaker 1>think about relievers. They don't really like giving up stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for relievers, knowing how volatile they are and how much

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<v Speaker 1>they turn through these guys every single year.

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<v Speaker 2>Except that this idea of the steckend Rider bucket is

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<v Speaker 2>fading since twenty twenty three, when they had those three

0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.440
<v Speaker 2>guys all really work out and gave Spyer justin topa

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Salcedo. Since then, how many true steckend rider bucket

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<v Speaker 2>guys have you found? I guess Bizarto. But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like it's been a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no it.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't had that same hit rate with relievers, and

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<v Speaker 2>as a result, they've paid some price for it at

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<v Speaker 2>points this season, And you may pay prices for it

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<v Speaker 2>now down the road because you didn't add anything at

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know how hesitant they can also be by

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<v Speaker 1>getting some of these rental relievers. The Marriers have acquired

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<v Speaker 1>rental relievers each of the last two seasons. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember how those went?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but Caleb Ferguson is not in the same bucket

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<v Speaker 2>as Mason Miller. He's not even in the same bucket.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, Well, I'm not comparing Caleb Ferguson of Mason Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even rental relievers. Yeah, I guess Jimmy Garcia would

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<v Speaker 2>have lined up a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, well, he was the other one I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to refer the Mariners traded for him. He

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<v Speaker 1>made two outings, three outings, sure, but they missed the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do about an injury. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>predict that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to show that, well, we can't rely on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even advocating for this. I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take people inside the mind of how the Mariners might

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<v Speaker 1>be thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>This and what I would respond to that is what

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<v Speaker 2>I would respond to that with is then you should

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<v Speaker 2>have figured this out in the off season.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what And I'm one hundred percent with you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that. Even when we had all

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<v Speaker 2>the hype in the world around this team back in

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<v Speaker 2>February and March, the one thing we constantly said was

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<v Speaker 2>they need another leverage reliever. You're feeling the price of

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<v Speaker 2>it now. You just are. And this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when you put too much emphasis

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<v Speaker 2>on the trade deadline. The Mariners have publicly talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this and they've showed their actions with this. They use

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline as part of their acquisition phase and

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<v Speaker 2>a major part of their acquisition phase, and there's years

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<v Speaker 2>where it works. They nailed it last year with Naylor

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<v Speaker 2>and Gino and almost getting Durant, But the trademarket in

0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.400
<v Speaker 2>general is just too unpredictable. So while there's years that

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<v Speaker 2>it works, there are years where it doesn't. Twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>for example. Maybe that was more to do with the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they were right on the brink in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of buying versus selling and which direction did they want

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<v Speaker 2>to go, and that's why they weren't more aggressive. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is why you can't overly rely on the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>There are years where it's unpredictable. And when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a year like this where the town is down the price,

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<v Speaker 2>the asking prices are high, and the amount of surplus

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<v Speaker 2>value is limited, then this is what you're stuck paying

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<v Speaker 2>the price of. This is what you're stuck paying the

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<v Speaker 2>price of because you end up shorthanded. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened this year with them being overly reliant on

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline. As part of their process to be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>they obviously used the off season heavily this year. They

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<v Speaker 2>got Donovan, they re signed Naylor, and they signed Refsnyder.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that one hasn't worked, the ref Snyder one,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was part of the off season plan and

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<v Speaker 2>part of their blueprint. But as a result, the failure

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<v Speaker 2>to go acquire another leverage reliever has now cost them.

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<v Speaker 2>Or when Jason Churchill told us ahead of the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the season that they were still a bat short

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<v Speaker 2>and they needed another guy, at least one more guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Well they didn't go get that in the off season either,

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<v Speaker 2>And then when there's no true good bats available at

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline again, you're left short handed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, kind of hard to argue with any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm sitting here wondering before we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Ward, because there was at least some positive today.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the Mariners get better with Taylor Ward.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here wondering as the Mariners entered this final day,

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<v Speaker 1>what were they going to trade George Kirby or Emerson

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<v Speaker 1>Hancock for? Like I still don't see even if they

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetically offered Hancock or Kirby to for Mason Miller, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in the boat where I don't think that makes

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<v Speaker 1>much sense. And I don't think that really makes your

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<v Speaker 1>team that much better this season.

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<v Speaker 3>So if not.

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<v Speaker 1>Mason Miller, who else, Like, who are they trying to get?

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<v Speaker 1>There was no one traded today that I think was

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<v Speaker 1>worth either of those two.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would have been a little shocking because

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<v Speaker 2>this would have been an indivision trade. But of the

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<v Speaker 2>names that were floated out there, I wonder if they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to get wyat Langford because his name got

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<v Speaker 2>floated out there today, that the Rangers were listening on

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<v Speaker 2>him and they need they often need starting pitching. A

0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of their starters are old. They talked about they

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<v Speaker 2>were floating to gram and evolve the out there today

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<v Speaker 2>too for trades. In fact, de Graham rejected any trade packages.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm not going to wave my no trade clause.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the Rangers were looking for some controllable

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<v Speaker 2>pitching and the Mariners were interested in why at Langford

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing happened. I mean, because if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>throw out names of who would the Mariners value in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of a return for George Kirby or Emerson Hancock.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the names that we saw out there today, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that really would have made a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you get the Rangers to say yes

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<v Speaker 1>to that? It's George Kirby, Plus, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how you get them to say yes. But your

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<v Speaker 2>question was who do you think the Mariners were listening to?

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<v Speaker 2>Offers on if they're trying to sell high maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was Langford, or maybe it's a bat we weren't even

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of, or a bat that wasn't made publicly available

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<v Speaker 2>that they were trying to poach.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair point. Langford would be great, He's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners need.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>But no individual trades for a guy like that are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tricky out now. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>both those guys are still in the Mariners rotation and

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners have their five to go the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the season with as they get into

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason, do you have anything left on this bullpen

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<v Speaker 1>before we talk about Taylor Warren.

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily the bullpen, but because none of the starters

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<v Speaker 2>got traded, you still have a situation that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to take on next year where you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to make space for Kate Anderson at some point, likely

0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Sloan too. So at some point somebody's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to get traded, right, somebody will get traded, because.

0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Otherwise one's gonna get traded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, otherwise you're going back to this whole ridiculous piggyback

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<v Speaker 2>thing that they ran for the first four months of

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<v Speaker 2>the season and the six man rotation again. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think, obviously this conversation comes back to

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<v Speaker 2>light this winner when there's actually trades going on before

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<v Speaker 2>a lockout or after a lockout. And I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>say it, but while his name wasn't involved in this

0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.440
<v Speaker 2>year's talks, I would imagine Logan Gilb where its name

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<v Speaker 2>is going to start to get involved in talks this

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<v Speaker 2>winner because he's going to have a year left on

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<v Speaker 2>his deal and if the Mariners get to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where they think they cannot extend him, well then you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go get something back for him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think one of them is getting traded

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<v Speaker 3>in the offseason at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there's no way they There is this much

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<v Speaker 1>reporting about Emerson Hancock and George Kirbickley Kirby publicly being

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<v Speaker 1>available two reporters for a long time, for weeks and

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.520
<v Speaker 1>weeks on end, and that they don't end up trading

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<v Speaker 1>one of these guys at some point, George Kirby and

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<v Speaker 1>Emerson know that they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Expendable for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know they got a job to go do,

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're they're just gonna go out there and pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>but they know now you don't make guys available that

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<v Speaker 1>publicly and then just totally forget about trading them, especially

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if you a want to make room, but be try

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<v Speaker 1>to make your team better. So and I think the Mariners,

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<v Speaker 1>based on how they've currently been playing, still do need

0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.919
<v Speaker 1>to make their team better, and whether it be this

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<v Speaker 1>season or next season, that's how it's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest. I think with Logan Gilbert's free

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<v Speaker 2>agency upcoming, I think Emerson's name and trade talks goes

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<v Speaker 2>to the back burner. Now, sure, he was available at

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 2>this deadline, but I think now with the club control

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 2>he's got, it probably becomes more about Logan Gilbert and

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 2>George Kirby going forward than Emerson Hancock because you're gonna

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:24.920
<v Speaker 2>need him in the rotation. You're still gonna need Arms

0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 2>where if you trade Hancock and then Logan Gilbert walks,

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<v Speaker 2>well then you've overdone it like you might be in

0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Arms short. So I think Emerson's name, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that for sure, but if I had a guess, I

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<v Speaker 2>think talks now become about Logan and Kirby. This Winter,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's say extend Logan, which would be great, but

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends what you can get back though, because Emerson

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<v Speaker 1>Hancock at this point probably brings you more Logan's one year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I guess at that point you'd say to yourself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if we trade Emerson for a Bat or Kirby for

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>a bat, one of those guys and then Logan Gilbert

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 2>walk you'd still have Ryan Sloan. So if you hypothetically

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 2>traded Kirby and then Logan Walked, then you'd still have

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Wu Miller, Cad Sloan, and Emerson Hancock and Logan Evans

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:19.199
<v Speaker 2>as the rotation options, which still is pretty good. But yeah,

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could still make it work. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if with Emerson's club control, Logan's free agency upcoming now,

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<v Speaker 2>as we move forward, talks become more about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree. All right, let's talk about Taylor Ward.

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<v Speaker 1>Maritors acquired Taylor Ward this morning, right at about nine

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<v Speaker 1>thirty while things were trending in a positive direction, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got it for three minor league pitchers, Alex Hoppy

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<v Speaker 1>and Brock Moore, the two notable ones going back to Baltimore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all those rumors throughout the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and talking to our friend Adam Jude, who was

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<v Speaker 1>on here saying he didn't feel like the Mariners and

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Orioles lined up well in this scenario. They did, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, this does make them better. They did

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<v Speaker 1>get better with this move.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes the team better. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the positives first, I'll let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Taylor Ward is top ten in Major League Baseball

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and walks and on base percentage. Say that's positive. The

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Marritorers are now the only team in baseball I can't

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>believe the stat is real. Shout out to our friends

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<v Speaker 1>at just Baseball for digging this out. The only team

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in Major League Baseball to have two players with an

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>on base percentage of three to seventy five or higher.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that's possible. I really don't that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't either, But Randy rose Arena and Taylor

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Ward are two guys with above three seventy five on

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>base percentage, which is it's just bonkers. So what Taylor

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Ward is gonna bring you is he's gonna get on

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>base and get on base more. His power, which he

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>has shown plenty of in the past. He had thirty

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>six home runs last year, has totally evaporated. It's gone

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>his barrel rates down. I don't think he's hitting the

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>ball as hard anymore, and he's making up for it

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in walks. If you want a positive spin on that.

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>WRC plus this year and last year are the exact same.

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So his offensive value to a team is the same

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 1>as he hits thirty six home runs as it is

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>when he has a.

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<v Speaker 3>Three eighty three on base percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, I think the Mariners do to need a little

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>bit more pop because they're current lineups not hitting for

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>enough pop.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not well, if you've dissected all that, are

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>we ready to move further into the other side of

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Ward. You just mentioned this, I mean you just

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 2>mentioned his season numbers. You mentioned that his WRC plus

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>is the same at this point this year as it

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 2>was last year. Right, Well, Unfortunately most of that was

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 2>anchored by a great April for Taylor Ward. Since May first,

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>he has not been an all star level bat. He

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 2>hasn't even been an above average bat. He's been literally average.

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Since May first, he has got a one hundred WRC

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>plus for the season. The last three months, he has

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 2>been a league average hitter at best. And that's highlighted

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 2>by the fact he's slugging threeh eight for the last

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 2>three months, not on basing threeh eight, which isn't a

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>great on base percentage, but it's you know, it's whatever,

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>slugging threeh eight. Talk about evaporated power that is non existent.

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, man, Like I got a temper. I gotta

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>temper my expectations on this Taylor Ward thing. It's just like,

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not the same guy. This is not the same

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<v Speaker 2>Tailor Ward that was an Anaheim.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the very least he's taking Rob Refsneider's spot,

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Like Refsnyder a Roeblists are getting cut tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so it's all this all depends on the perspective

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 2>you view the lens of the Tailor Ward trade in.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>If you view it in the lens of he's about

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>to give you a boost over Refsnyder a Roeblaze. That

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>is true, and truthfully, if I had to guess, it's

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna be ref Snyder because again roblaz still has some

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>defensive value or Refsnyder doesn't have that but if you're

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>viewing this in the lens of oh, we just got

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the Taylor Ward from Anaheim who hit thirty six homers

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 2>last year and has been a staple at the top

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of the order for them. Yeah, the last three months

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and his season as a whole, are not suggesting that

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>he has not hit for power. He has not done

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>much damage. You mentioned that his barrel rates down, he's

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>not hitting righties. Look, taylor Ward does hit lefties. It's

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>always been a strength of his. But this is supposed

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>to be an everyday player. Taylor Ward right now on

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the year has a six sixty eight ops or sorry,

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>that's home versus away. Taylor Ward has a six ninety

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>ops against right handed pitching for the year, which is

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 2>right about average. And if you take out that April

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>it gets a lot worse than that. I don't know,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 2>man like this was their headline move of the trade deadline.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 2>A guy that literally hasn't been in above league average

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>bat in the last three months.

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 3>But that's what was available, I know.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>And if you want glass half full on taylor Ward

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>and more of the positive, he has still hit lefties

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>very well in that trend or in that stretch, so

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>in the last three months. While overall it has been

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>below average to league average, he has still been above

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 2>average against lefties. He's got about a one thirty WRC

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>plus against lefties in the last three months. So if

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for the just the mere upgrade over Refsnyder

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>or Roblaze, okay, but this is not the same tailor Ward.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I partly wonder if he's I don't know for sure,

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>you can only speculate, but I've wondered all year if

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>he's playing a little bit banged up, because how does

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>that power just evaporate?

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a Cal Rawley level drop off of power,

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and Cal's hurt.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Cal's been hurt, right, So yeah, that would check out.

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd say this scenario, Llyle is not so much our

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>argument of the Mariners didn't do enough in the offseason.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Mariners issue in this sense is that

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the guy they spent six million dollars on to do

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>what Taylor Ward has done this season has been one

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of the worst players in baseball. Like that's that's really

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>where the issue is. And then the other two premiere

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>offseason signings for your lineup have been either hurt or

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>bad offensively and now you have now at the trade deadline,

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to recoup some of that offensive production at

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>this rate. I mean, I'm fine with with Taylor Ward platooning,

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>hitting against lefties. He'll play right field, which he'll be

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>below average out there, and the Mariners just get marginally

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>better in their lineup. I don't know how they're gonna

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>deal with him when he is in the lineup. I

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>know you, I know he's not been great since May first,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But a three eighty three on base percentage is a

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>three eighty three on base percentage? Do you dare hit

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that towards the top of the lineup, even if there's

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>no juice to go along with it. Cole Young's got

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that lead off spot, lockdown, Randy's gonna hit second or third,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>can Zone's gonna hit the other spot?

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>So where does he go? Is he hitting ninth Taylor Ward? Well,

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>then he'd you go, what Julio Naylor cal after that?

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's the first six? Hit seventh? And then you

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 2>have to no, I wouldn't hit him seventh, him ninth

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Ward? Yes? Really? But what good?

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>So what good does it do if he's getting on

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>base in front of your two worst.

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Hitters, Colt Emerson, and then we who are we forgetting.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Whoever else is? Whoever else is playing?

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess it would. I guess it would be some

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>combo of whoever's at third base, JP West and Wilson. Although,

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>to be fair, Brendan Donovan's about to come back and

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>they probably will not immediately slot him back into the

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>lead off role considering he's been out forever. He's not

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>hit well on his rehab assignment. Maybe that's where Donovan

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>slots in is eight and then Emerson's nine.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I know on the reaction this morning, I said Taylor

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Wortchid hit in the top three of the lineup. I

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>take that back. I should not have said that. I

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>think Taylor Orchid hit ninth.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>In this lineup. Sure, it's fine with me.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 3>We'll just take Cole Young's old spot.

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it breaks up some lefties and a little

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>bit because after you get past Caw who's a switch hitter,

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>at six, you'd have two lefties in Donovan, let's say seven,

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Colt Emerson eight, and then you get the righty and

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Ward at nine, and then you get Cole Young

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.719
<v Speaker 2>at one, and then you have Randy at two, So

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>it breaks it up a little bit. Is there still

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>a lefty pocket in there where opposing teams could slot

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 2>in some lefty relievers late in the game if you

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>know you're about to get that eight seven, eight, nine

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>to one combo, Yeah you could, but it breaks it

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>up more than having Taylor Ward hit seven when you

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 2>just have Donovan Emerson Cole Young all three in a row.

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>In that scenario.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>If someone sitting here and listening to our description of

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Ward and you're like, oh my god, the Mariner's

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>treated for a nine hole hitter, I'm supposed to view

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>this as a positive. I feel like there's nothing but

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like upside with a move like this. First of all,

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the pieces you gave away are probably gonna be non factors,

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like Brock Morgan could be a decent bullpen arm, but

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>he's struggled in Double A since the Mariners promoted him.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a reason he's not a in the big leagues.

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you saw what you saw from Alex Hoppy.

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>He's probably like a right in between Triple A and

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Major League back in Major League believer or I guess

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>front end where he's pitching. He's like the last guy

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>in that bullpen. He's a quad a reliever from what

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>he showed, that's not something you're gonna.

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Miss that much.

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>And the upside you would get from Taylor Ward over

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>either Victor Roblis or Rob Refsnyder, even if he's only

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>has like a seven hundred ops, that's a pretty big

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>jump from what those two guys were giving you in

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that same role. So like, there is definite positive to

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>this move. He's just not gonna come in and save

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>this lineup. There was never anyone at this deadline that

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was gonna come in and save this Mariner's lineup. As

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Callous said, and as Jerry has said, there's the only

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>fix for this lineup is the guy's currently in it

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>right now, and we had to reach to the end

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of the deadline for it to probably finally sink in

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>with everybody that. Yeah, I mean, it's on these guys

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to turn this thing around.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm just underwhelm man. I mean what you

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 2>said about Taylor Ward's true. It's not that much downside

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to trying to go with a light by because it

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't cost you that much to get him. But he

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>just like the rest of the Mariners team, has been

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>pretty underwhelming at points this year. He's certainly been underwhelming

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the last three months, given the level of talent that

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>he has in the expectation that people know he can

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>play at.

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Ugh.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going back to our terminology and our language

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>at the start of the podcast, just ugh, like like whatever, Like,

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>great they got Taylor Ward. I would have been much

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>more excited about this in the off season, given he

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 2>was coming off such a huge year. Now, okay, Like

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like all emotions of this season have just

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>been beaten out of me. At this point, they've just

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>been beaten out of me. I kind of left, what's that?

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 3>We got two months left?

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, then in the next two months it's on them

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>to fix it. Have you forgotten what their August schedule

0:33:58.760 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 2>looks like.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 3>It's it's brutal, you know, an.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.959
<v Speaker 2>August schedule where you now do not have bullpen reinforcements

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>aside from Sir Anthony de Minguez who walks everybody.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>The Mariners have told us they believe and they're going

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to turn it around. Now it's time for them to

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>back up that talk. So that's the point of the

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>season we're at. There's no oh, we got this injection

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of juice at the deadline like they did last year,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>got these two clear fixes into this lineup, and all

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Wow, they look totally different. The only

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>way this team's gonna look totally different is if the

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>players on the team start playing totally different. Otherwise it

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>will be the same pretty much.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I say most of the emotion of

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the season has already been beaten out of me. Like

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 2>I had the anger stages and the grieving stages, and

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the points in May and June where it was just

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 2>driving me nuts. Now I'm just it's the worst possible feeling,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>which is you don't feel like I don't feel anything

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 2>these days, and that sucks. Like I just said it

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 2>on social media. I want to feel something. I want

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 2>this team to let me feel something, and right now

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it just feels extremely ho hummed. And between what's happened

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of weeks on the field and this deadline,

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:19.919
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of sit here and I'm like, yah,

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, like great. I just shrugged my shoulders, like

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>all right. The Mariners added a couple guys at the deadline.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not all that inspiring. They haven't played very inspiring

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 2>baseball unless there is a significant jolt of life in

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 2>the final two months. I don't know how I'm gonna

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>change my feeling this year because I don't feel anything

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>these days. That sucks.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, his job got a lot harder at

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 3>this deadline. Dan Wilson, Oh.

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Good, a man who already you know, is just absolutely

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>on it every day of the season. Already, surely he

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>can take on more challenges.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the point. And his bullpen decisions already aren't

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>very good. And now the Mariners have to half of

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.760
<v Speaker 1>their current healthy leverage arms really struggling in Bizarto and Ferrara,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and the Mariners added a potentially upside but also potentially

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>downside reliever who you don't know where the ball's going

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on a given day, and no other proven bullpen arms. Yeah,

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like something that would get a lot harder

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>for somebody. It would be harder for good managers. It's

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>hard for guys who really struggle making decisions with their bullpens.

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of getting a guy like Mason Miller makes things

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot easier, But no, the marasn't do that.

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, speaking of that, we haven't even really talked

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.439
<v Speaker 2>about anything from the twin series, because obviously the last

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>couple episodes have been filled with trade talk. And they

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 2>won two of three, which great. It didn't look all

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that inspiring considering they blew a six nothing lead Sunday.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>They barely came back on Saturday. But were we watching

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 2>what in the world Dan was doing? On Friday? The

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Mariners were still in the middle of that six man

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 2>rotation where you know you need more length out of

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>your starters, You know you need more length. I mean,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 2>they pulled Bryce Miller out of the game at what

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>was eighty seven pitches to then have both your struggling

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote leverage relievers in Ferrera and Bizardo, throw a

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>full inning, get cooled off, sit in the dugout, and

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>then get hot again and go back out for a

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 2>second inning, and both of them gave up runs.

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>What I mean again, I said, all the emotion was

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>beaten out of you, and then I forgot.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 2>That when you brow so my bad it is for

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the most part, except when you then bring up Dan Wilson,

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and then it all comes right back, because yeah, what dude,

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>you pulled Bryce at eighty seven pitches and a six

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>man rotation, have multiple relievers, try to go multiple innings,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>which you never do and haven't done all year, and

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>then they both give up runs like shocker, and then

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you lose.

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>What. Well, there's that, and then there's the fact the

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Mariners blue. They shout out to the Mariner's offense. They

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>got off to hot starts in all three of the games.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>They scored multiple runs in the first inning of every game.

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 3>The downside is.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>They blew all of those leads, all of them, and

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>they have a couple of walkoffs made. It's just salvage

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the series, but it's not really a sustainable way of playing.

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>So you hope that the bullpen kind of irons itself out.

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, this is not inspiring.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>So now you're gonna play a Tigers team this week who, yes,

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have Errek Schoubel anymore, but is hardly you know,

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like they have a worse record than the Twins, but

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they're definitely more talented than the Twins are. And then

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it really gets going this weekend with the Rays and.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 3>They're newly acquired ace Freddy Peralta. That's gonna be a

0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 3>good team.

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, with a rotation that's already really good or

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a team that's already really good. So yeah, I'm looking

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 2>at this. But and then you know, people were mad

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>on Friday about Garver coming in. Yeah, Garver and Roblazes

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>ops is against lefties really aren't that different this year,

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of crazy. But I don't know, Friday

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't good. The weekend was whatever. I'm glad, like

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 2>good they won the series. But this real August Gauntlet

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 2>has the even started yet. It doesn't even really start

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 2>against the Tigers a little bit. It does. It really

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>gets going this weekend against the Rays.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 3>So they are.

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Gonna need to get to like five games above five hundred,

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and then we will start feeling more positive about the

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>direction of this team, because if they do do that,

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>they will have It'll come one of two ways. They

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>will have either survived August and feasted on September, which

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.240
<v Speaker 1>is essentially what they did last year to get themselves

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs, or they will do well against this

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>August schedule, which would be a very positive trend.

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm.

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Those are the options in front of them right now.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>If they're gonna go out there and they're gonna go

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>make us feel better and make this make the playoffs

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>know that their roster is finalized.

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again, I would like to feel something. We'll see

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.240
<v Speaker 2>if that happens in August. Well, I probably will feel

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>something in August. Just a question of whether it's good

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 2>or bad. So I don't know. The juhum thing isn't

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>very fun. But that's your trade deadline. Man. There wasn't

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 2>a whole time on. They traded as starting pitcher, They

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 2>added a right handed bat, they didn't get the reliever,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see. I guess right. That's all you can do.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Mm yeah, all right.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.359
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