1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, Ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: writtled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone, 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: I am Ben and that makes this stuff they don't 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: want you to know yet. You know, earlier when we 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: had we had a couple of issues that made us 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: need to restart our recording here, which happened sometimes, and 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: you had you had a really nice sort of theme 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: song intro to it, right, Yeah, you know, I decided 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: not to try it again the first time. It was 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: just out of boldness. I felt like I should just 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: go for it, but it was it was the wrong decision. Well, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: fortune favors the bold, right. Uh. So we're doing something 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: a little bit different on two days episode, isn't that right, Matt? 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: That's correct. We are looking back through our archives for 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: all the messages that you have sent us, and we're 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: going to go through as many of them as we 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: possibly can and address issues talked about a couple of things, 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: and uh, hopefully it's going to be a good time. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. We'll also just have some stories that some 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: of you have written to us about and uh, we 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: wanted to tell these stories to the rest of the audience. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: And some of these are fascinating and waiting to get 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: into it. And we'll be looking at stuff across Facebook 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: and some Twitter and some emails. So, uh, Matt, I 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: feel mind? Would you like to do the honors? All right? 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: We can get this started. This is a message from 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Chris with a K, and I'm just gonna go through it, 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: he says. Matt and Ben. I've had somewhat of an 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: eerie feeling about the capabilities of my cell phone in 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: the past several years because of my dystopian view of 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: what others can do with any personal information that can 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: be accessed. When I saw your video on neuromarketing, I 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: had several nuggets of information come flooding into my head. 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Tom plead a bigger picture. We all know that our 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: cell phones are hot beds of personal information, and I've 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: just accepted the fact that somebody can get access to 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: anything they want from it. Thank you, Edward Snowdon. That's 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: pretty great and personal person of interest. But what do 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: you guys think about this? Almost all recent smartphones have 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: a rear facing camera that can see your face as 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: you use your phone. Do you think it's possible for 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: somebody to be able to know what you're doing or 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: looking at on your phone and see your reaction to 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: these things and make an advertisement profile. So this is 47 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: really interesting, Ben, I just want to point out here 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: that my cell phone that is not in here while 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: we're recording for possible RF interference, has taped over the 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: front facing or I guess is the rear facing camera 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: that looks at me while I'm on my phone. Yeah. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: I I have the webcam in my laptops taped over too, 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: but not on the phone because, UM, sure, I'll make 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: us stupid face. I imagine we're reading something on Reddit. 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: But if someone catches me doing that, then you know 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: they'll they'll probably be disappointed. Or maybe you know what, 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: maybe I should just start making incredibly exaggerated reactions. Uh. 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: When you look at things that would would increase your 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: profile in positive ways for you, like we were saying earlier, Um, 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: when you look at some kind of market research, make 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: these faces that you're genuinely interested and when a cab 62 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: video comes on, just be disgusted. Uh. We could become 63 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the uh the saboteurs, right, but yeah, but okay, So 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Chris makes a really good point here, do you think 65 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: there's any kind of market research that could be done 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: with this? With using technology? Okay, this is what the 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: person is browsing at this time, and here is here's 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: our facial recognition software running. Do you think there's anything 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: in the future? Oh? Yeah, First before you answer that, 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: because I do have an answer for that. He's got 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: a couple more questions could be end I wanted to read? 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: He said, Uh, could neuromarketers gather and test this info 73 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: in order to sell their services to others in the future? 74 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Could this info be used for something more sinister? Would 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: that be illegal? Uh? It seems like it should be. 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: But does anybody actually read what kind of permissions they 77 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: allow on their phones and what the end result of 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: granting these permissions could possibly be. So to answer your 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: your first question, and I Matt, Uh, it's completely possible 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: for a phone to be hacked and for the camera 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: abilities of that phone to be exploited without knowledge, the 82 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: same way that it's completely possible for a laptop. In 83 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: some cases, it could be even easier to hack a 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: cell phone in that regard. But what we're talking about, 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: And what I think Chris s here is talking about 86 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: is not so much hacking as people through negligence allowing 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: um a program that's a little bit too nosy onto 88 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: their phone. So there are two ways this could happen, uh, 89 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: And one is not entirely your fault as the phone owner, 90 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: right because someone has illegally acquired these capabilities. And the 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: other one is totally your fault for not reading terms 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: and agreements and guys, yeah, no one does it. No 93 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: one reads all And there's part of you know, it's 94 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: to the advantage of a lot of those companies asking 95 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: people to agree to something to have a touse language 96 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: that no one wants to read. There was a as 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: a professor in town while back who was embarking on 98 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: a project to make terms and agreement documents more readable 99 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: more Yeah, yeah, I just think it's it was more 100 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: like an infographic or the the information was arranged so 101 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: that you knew, in layman's terms, what you were allowing 102 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: company A or app X to do to your information 103 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: on your phone. Of course, as you can imagine, there 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of impetus of two to help him 105 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: out on the business. Nobody's going to give him a 106 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: lot of money to do this. So if you agree 107 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: to this kind of stuff, um in your terms and permissions, 108 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: in your terms of agreements, then it is not necessarily illegal. 109 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: Good neuromarketers gather and test this sort of info. Chris 110 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: also mentions responses to heart rate monitors embedded allegedly embedded 111 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: in some phones. Uh. The truth is that, yes, this 112 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of information could be used. It is possible. Is 113 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: somebody doing it right now? That we don't know. We 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: do know, however, that there are some ongoing studies, um 115 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: that have been conducted regarding biometric signs or biometric data 116 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: related to advertising. So well, yeah, that's the whole neuromarketing aspect. 117 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it random plug here. If you 118 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: haven't watched it, watch a neuromarketing series. It's great. Yeah, 119 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: and we'd like to christens that with I'd like to 120 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: hear where you guys take this one. Uh, we would 121 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: like to explore more of this in the future. What 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I think bold both of us over met was the 123 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: realization of the degree to which this stuff is being pursued. 124 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, and the dollars that are there for 125 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: potential companies that would develop this kind of technology. It's 126 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: just kind of waiting for somebody to reach out and 127 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: grab so it in my in my opinion, if it 128 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: is not already active and we're just not aware of it, 129 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: it will be active and we will probably be aware 130 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: of it very soon. So you know, guys, Uh, make 131 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: crazy faces at your phone just doesn't matter in public 132 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: by yourself. Tell tell them that, Tell them you're doing 133 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: it for science. That's right. Yeah, that's the newest vague 134 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: excuse of the age. As people like to say, Oh, 135 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: don't worry, it's for science. Yeah, with an exclamation mark. Yeah, 136 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: pardon me, officer, that was for science. Um. But speak 137 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: of reaching out to grab something, you wanna grab us? 138 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: One from Facebook? Yes, here's a message from Ian that 139 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: we got on Facebook. He says, Hey, guys, have you 140 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: heard of this new batch of oddness yet? Search web 141 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: driver Torso for more info. I'd love to see what 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: you guys think. So, oh yeah, we actually read this 143 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: and we had heard about it. I think simultaneously as 144 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Ian sent this message and we actually posted it on Facebook. 145 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: It's a YouTube page that has some curious things going 146 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: on with it. It's random tones and shapes, yeah, red 147 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: and blue squares, rectangles. Uh. The The other thing about 148 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: this is that this channel post numerous videos. Um, there's thousands, 149 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: no other way to say, yeah, uh, way too many videos. 150 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: And people are asking themselves, is this uh? Is this 151 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: just performance art for the sake of pretentious performance art? Um. 152 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: We should note also that it seems that this video 153 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: is acquainted with France or the video uploaders acquainted with France, 154 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: because there is one non square video, right, one non 155 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: tone and shape video where they say, oh, so and 156 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: so is a smart guy and the Eiffel Towers in 157 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: the background or something. Uh. There's another possibility, which is 158 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: of course much more exciting, and that is the idea 159 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: that this YouTube channel maybe an evolution in the uh 160 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: in in the path of number stations. Um. Sure, that's 161 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: a that's a fascinating idea. You just need the internet 162 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: connection or uh, you know, a connection to some kind 163 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: of satellite service and there you go. Now you have 164 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: all your secret spy information that you needed for that 165 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: thing you have to do and health sinky Yeah right, 166 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Uh they said that the thing you have to do 167 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: in Helsinki. Um. For anyone who doesn't know what a 168 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: number station is it's a brilliant example of how older 169 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: technology can still function perfectly in in the modern world. 170 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Numbers stations are these radio transmissions that occur on specific frequencies, 171 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: and every so often sporadically, on some of these Russian 172 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: number stations, somebody with okay an accent will come on 173 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and say a series of numbers in Russian. Just you 174 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: don't know when it's going to happen. I'm sure someone does, uh, 175 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: but they'll come on and they'll say, you know, twelve, 176 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: fourteen two, Well yeah, and there will also be alphabet 177 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: sequencing sequences. So it's just it's really great. I think 178 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: it's the Content Project, Is that correct? Noel? Are you 179 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: listening to me? The Connate project that actually did the 180 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: all the things with the number stations where it's music 181 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: with the number three, Yes, Yankee Hotel, Fox Shot. It's 182 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: great stuff. Think you know that's our producer, Noel, who 183 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: is not just a great producer, but also a fount 184 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: of knowledge that we uh we we check in with 185 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: and sometimes you guys will hear us refer to know. 186 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: I hope you keep this one in. I know that 187 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you cut it out when we talk to you. 188 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: On the show, he's going to so the uh so. 189 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: The interesting thing with those number stations is that, while 190 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: we don't have conclusive proof of what they do, uh, 191 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: the best one of the best guesses is that, due 192 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: to the times in which they began transmitting, and due 193 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: to the secrecy surrounding them, UH, it seems fairly safe 194 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: to say that they are somehow related to espionage. And 195 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: if you think about it, it's an uncrack herble code 196 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: because if it is ladd espionage, then these sequences of 197 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: numbers and letters are guides to a cipher, uh, some 198 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: sort of code book that people are looking at to 199 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: learn messages or receive information. And if you don't have 200 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: that book, then there's no way that you could crack 201 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: this code. The big question then, is web driver web torso, 202 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: web driver Torso, webdriver torso one of these sorts of 203 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: endeavors And if so, this is quite exciting because YouTube 204 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: might be one of the perfect places for that. Or 205 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: is it just some kind of random generator that's being 206 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: uploaded on some kind of weird schedule through an algorithm 207 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: that some some person just decided to try out right? 208 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: Is it just an elaborate art project which is equally 209 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: possible or just a troll right see? Or is it 210 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: maybe someone's trying to make a music video but they're 211 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: doing it very strangely and out of sync. And then 212 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: once once you put the whole thing together where it's 213 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: just going to be this beautiful, symphonic piece, maybe that's 214 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: what it is. That's really nice, you know what. I'm 215 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna choose to believe that for a while, um, at 216 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: least until the end of this episode. Next thing comes 217 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: to us from Zach, and Zach wrote to us on email, Zack, 218 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: you said, hey, guys, can't get enough of your show. 219 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: I did end up looking into jury nullification. Definitely something 220 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: everyone should be aware of. But anyways, I was thinking 221 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Australia often gets left off the radar for most Americans, 222 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: myself included, until I moved to Tasmania. There's a story interesting, 223 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Uh, And Zach goes on st needless to say, 224 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: there is a lot of the big wigs here don't 225 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: like open discussion about. First off, Australia is not actually independent. 226 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing, but the Queen of England can ask 227 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: Australia to go to war and we have to go 228 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: she appoints a Governor General who oversees a lot of 229 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: stuff of what happens down under. It's worth noting that 230 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: the ground often doesn't intervene or make orders, but they 231 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: still have the ability to do so if they choose. 232 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Another very dark moment that for a long time was 233 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: covered up was Nolan known as the Stolen Generation, active 234 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: between nineteen o nine to nineteen sixty nine. Australian officials 235 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: who go into Aboriginal communities and take away children to 236 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: adopt out to white prosperous families and an attempt to 237 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm putting finger quotes in here civilized them. From their perspective, 238 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: here's where it gets crazy. Thanks. A hundred thousand children 239 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: may have been taken over the years. I would look 240 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: at the movie Rabbit Proof Fence as it details one 241 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: of the amazing escape stories of some of those children. 242 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: There are many parallels between what happened to Native Americans 243 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: and Aboriginals. The thing is that in Australia this all 244 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: happened much more recently and was still hidden from the 245 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: public for a while. Just to pitch something people don't 246 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: often hear about. Thanks again for the show. That's uh. 247 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: What was it rabbit proof fence. Yeah, rabbit proof fence. 248 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: To write that down and make sure so. The stolen 249 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: generation is something that I had read about in Zach 250 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: your spot on with identifying the parallels between Native American 251 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: families and Aboriginal families in Australia, because in the United States, 252 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: although it's often glossed over in the history books, a 253 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: very very similar thing occurred and people who were often 254 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: guided by missionary principles would take uh these quote unquote 255 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: heathen children and try to civilize them or teach them 256 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: some sort of religion thing. Often, of course, taking a 257 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: child from her or his family is way more traumatic 258 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: than allowing that family unit to continue to exist. Yeah, 259 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: not not only for the child, but for the rest 260 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: of the family. Uh God, dude, makes me think about 261 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: the current Nigerian situation. Yeah, with Boko Haram. Yeah, just 262 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: that idea of taking children. It's one of the most 263 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: horrendous acts that you can think of well, and happens 264 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: with a appalling regularity. One interesting and extremely depressing statistic 265 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: is that in raw numbers, there are more slaves alive 266 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: today than there have been at any point in human history. 267 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: And that again that's raw numbers, so that statistic can 268 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: be a little misleading because they're also way more people 269 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: around than there have been in the past. That the 270 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: ways of humanity haven't changed that much. Unfortunately, that's true. 271 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: That's true. We can't leave just that horrible statistics standing. 272 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: It is also true that this is, believe it or not, 273 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: one of the most peaceful times in human history, which 274 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: is not saying that this is a great time, just 275 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: saying that other times were bananas in the worst possible way. 276 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: One last point there with the effect of this stolen 277 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: generation activity by the Australian government, it's this the effects 278 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: of those sorts of practices regardless. You know, maybe they 279 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: were well intentioned and most people don't think of themselves 280 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: as villains, so maybe the people stealing these children thought 281 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: they were doing a good thing. But regardless of their intention, 282 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: the truth is that this has had long lasting intergenerational effects, 283 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: not just upon Aboriginal communities in Australia, but also upon 284 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: Australian culture as a whole. And there's no easy fix 285 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: for this, but I think one of the first steps 286 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: is making this a well known story. So uh, thank 287 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: you for bringing this to light, and we hope that 288 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: our other listeners guys. Uh, I guess everybody, but Zach, 289 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen rabbit Proof Fence, do check it out, 290 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: and uh, hopefully we can we can cover this. Yeah, 291 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm interested. Yeah, we'll definitely cover this one. And uh, 292 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: as always, when you start digging a little bit beneath 293 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: or between the line of history textbooks, you find a 294 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: frightening number of skeletons. Yeah. Just depending on where you live, 295 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: there will be nice little redacted marks all over one 296 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: specific area. Okay, so let's let's bring it back to 297 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: Facebook really fast, bend. Oh wait, but before I do that, 298 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: I just want to give a shout out to Heather, 299 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: who has written us numerous very kind things. Yeah, but 300 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: I really didn't I don't want to read. Ben and 301 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: I both decided we don't really want to read the email, 302 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: one of the main ones that you said. It's just 303 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: because it's very nice and it's awesome. Thank you for 304 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: sending it. But I don't think anybody wants to hear 305 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: us just get complimented by ourselves, you know, by you 306 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: through ourselves. Well, Matt, it wasn't all just uh compliments, 307 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: because Heather also had some great suggestions that if we 308 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: haven't mentioned in, if we haven't mentioned on the air yet, 309 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: I might just be saving those that we can do 310 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: a series on them. But Heather, if you are listening, 311 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: thank you for checking in with us. We are responding 312 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: to your email. Um, and now I'd just like to say, Heather, 313 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: I hope uh, well, obviously you're not right now at 314 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: this moment enjoying listening to Ben's voice, But just that 315 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: whole time earlier, when you're listening to Ben's voice, I 316 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed that. Oh come on, man says I 317 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: have to read it, Ben, I have to read it, 318 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: just one tiny little excerpt. Uh, Heather says Ben, you 319 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: have one of the sexiest non British accented voices I've 320 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: ever heard. Have you ever considered doing audio books? Have you? 321 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: Are you asking me? Yeah? Have you? Um? You know what, 322 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you and I can do an audio book one day, Matt. 323 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know if you need me. Because she 324 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: says she would pay real, actual dollars to get audio 325 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: of you reading public Domain works, Well, that's that's so kind. 326 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: I would recommend you know that how Stuff Works does 327 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: have a couple of audio books by our buddies Josh 328 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: and Chuck. Yes, they're great, highly produced. You'll you'll love it. 329 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: It feels kind of like radio Lab. Yeah. Their guide 330 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: to Happiness is great. That's one of my favorites. Um, 331 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: which reminds me of this. Uh. Lizzie writes to us 332 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: and says, Hi, guys, nice work on shining light on 333 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: stuff they wants to know. Just wondering how was it 334 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: fair to bring up what you claim to be an amazing, 335 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: impressive ghost story and then decided not to tell us 336 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: anything about it. Can I please, please pulease get a 337 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: copy of this story, you know, the one I'm talking about. 338 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: You said it was too long to read on air, 339 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: and uh, then she said, so apparently wiki leaks released 340 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: cables about aliens is trending right now. I'd be down 341 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: to hear more about aliens, so would we, of course. Um. 342 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: And this is a note that made me think of this. 343 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: Here she said, you guys rock. I love that you 344 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: occasionally mentioned Josh and Chuck from stuff you should know 345 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: because I get happy thinking about you all being friends 346 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: and hanging out. We we do actually hang out. We 347 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: we sit around in the in the same office and uh. 348 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: Some of the big News today, just for a peak 349 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Is that Chuck recently out of skateboard? Oh? Man, 350 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: here he got he got another skateboard since the ones 351 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: that he had when he was younger. I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, 352 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: he was. He had been skating for while as a teenager, 353 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and now he's back on the board. Oh way, yeah, 354 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: he assures me. It's not like getting back on a bicycle. Sure. Um, okay, 355 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: So about this ghost story, Lizzie. I actually went back 356 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: and looked for the copy of the ghost story. But 357 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: if if I can find it, because it was long, 358 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, it was pretty cool. If I can find it, 359 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: then I am going to send it to you post taste. 360 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: But you know, I do have a copy of that. 361 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Do you have a copy? I think we should. I 362 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: still want to do a special audio podcast where we 363 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: just read that story. Okay, oh man, that's great. I 364 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: forget the name of the person who sent it in, 365 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: but I hope hopefully wouldn't mind. We'll will shoot him 366 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: an email and yeah, absolutely. Okay. So what's next, Matt, 367 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: where do you Yeah? Yeah, let's go back to Facebook. 368 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: I was gonna do that earlier. Sorry, this is a 369 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: really fast one. This is from carl Mose and I'm 370 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: not gonna use your last name, Carlos, but I will 371 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: say that you are the lunatic with an A on 372 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: the He asks what movie software do y'all use for 373 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: your videos? Please get back at me. Um, Well, Carlos, 374 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: just to address that quickly, we use an old version 375 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: of Final Cut Final Cut seven that's no longer supported, 376 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: and that's just because we we developed the show uh 377 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: around that format, and it's just honestly, we haven't had 378 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: time to switch anything over to ten, or or to 379 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: switch it over to Premiere any of the other things. 380 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: We're going to be doing that in the future, but 381 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: that's still what we use. Uh. We use a bunch 382 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: of photoshop and after effects motion um that those are 383 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: the main ones. MPEG stream clip is when we use. 384 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: And that's about it. And also for those who are 385 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: not acquainted with this, and we'll be preaching to the 386 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: choir for Final Cut fans, uh, the Final Cut version 387 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: we're using is pure ear to Final Cut ten. So well, okay, 388 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: you might get some flak about that. I I think 389 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: it is okay, um, and that's only because I've been 390 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: using Final Cut that is has at least been close 391 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: to that version for a long time. For what you 392 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: want to do, it's superior. Yes, that's fair. Okay. Yeah, 393 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: so if somebody else thinks it's perfect for something else 394 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: and they're doing something different, alright. So we have another 395 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: letter from uh our listener, Drew v Drew. You said, Hey, 396 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: they're been a fan for quite some time. Just finished 397 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: up are you part Neandertal our newest episode? He said, 398 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: early human history has always been something and fascinating me greatly, 399 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: so I'm glad to see some work by you on 400 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: the topic. Second, you mentioned at the very very end 401 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: of the episode that if anyone in anyone wanted to 402 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: shout out to drop you an email. So this is 403 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: me doing that. Oh and you put his whole name, 404 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: whole name in here, so I'll go ahead and say 405 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: my name is Drew Vulcan. Would be quite awesome to 406 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: hear somebody and the crew say it out loud on 407 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: an episode. Drew Vulcan did that, Drew Vulcan, oh man 408 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: so many times? Yeah, um, thanks for time. I appreciate it. Uh, 409 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: you know what, we appreciate your time, Drew. We're a 410 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: free show, all of our except for our mysterious sponsor. UM. 411 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: All of our best ideas come from listeners, and we 412 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: have had numerous listeners right into us before about especially 413 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: when news about the real life Hobbits and Dennis Silvis 414 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: came out. UM. Most of our great ideas come from listeners. 415 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: So thank you guys, Thank you Drew. Here's another one 416 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: from Facebook, Ben. This is from Anthony. He says, Hey, 417 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: I really enjoy your show. I was wondering if you 418 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: guys could make an episode on a A Alcoholics, Anonymous, 419 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: and twelve step programs, this one in particular being a cult, 420 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: and he says, I mean the first step is to 421 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: accept that you're powerless, so right away they're breaking the 422 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: person down as they would in a cult. What do 423 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: you I think? You know what, this is a very 424 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: interesting point that you're raising because and thank you for 425 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: raising it, because case by case on an a A 426 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: meeting from because I looked into some of this, like 427 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: is a occult right? Uh? And case by case, it 428 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: appears that some groups take on cultish characteristics and from 429 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: what I understand, these are in no way representative of 430 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: the entirety of a A. It's just because it's built 431 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: as sort of a decentralized organization. It's easy for people 432 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: to drift away under a charismatic leader, and you know, 433 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: isolation a charismatic leader UM an abiding problem and only 434 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: one way to get saved through a certain predescribed path. 435 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Uh does sound a lot like a cult. I'm just 436 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: gonna just gonna be honest. Yeah, it's culty. It's a 437 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: bit culty. Um. Another thing that's interesting that this makes 438 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: me think of is, uh, what is it narcanon narcotic 439 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: users anonymous in a UM because that has been uh 440 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: linked with scientology, which causes uh it's It's caused a 441 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: lot of criticism for people who also disagree with scientology 442 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: and say that this is not actually helping drug addicts, 443 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: it's trying to convert them. Yeah. Man, that's fascinating. There's scientology. 444 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: I know they are very anti drugs in scientology as 445 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: well as psychiatry. I believe the thing that we do 446 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: have to say is that methods of breaking addiction are 447 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: not always going to be the same for all people 448 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: or for all types of addictions. You know, and UM, 449 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: this it is it is quite possible that they're isolated 450 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: groups that have taken on cult characteristics. It's an interesting 451 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: question diggin too, and if we if we find enough 452 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: to make an episode about something like that, uh, then 453 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: we'd be glad to because you know, uh, you and 454 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: I have found things that turn out to be cults 455 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: under the strangest front, like pet rescue places out in 456 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: the middle of the desert somewhere or at least at 457 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: least Okay, all right, Matt, you and I are always 458 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna be talking about four pie for 459 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: such a long time. Dude, we can't talk about four pie. Oh, 460 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: that's right, that's the first rule for um. Okay, So 461 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: we have another uh email here from Unice. Oh and 462 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: Unice says, hi, I'm anna Avid follow your show. Could 463 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: I get a shout out for all your British viewers please? Okay, 464 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tackle your full name here, Unice, and 465 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: I hope I don't mess it up. Unice lamare lamare 466 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: o l A y e m E r E. So 467 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: I am probably butchering that, but thank you so much. 468 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Right into us, Unice. Uh, Unice says, I found your episode, 469 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: are you part neandertal fascinating? I am from Nigeria and 470 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: therefore probably not genetically related to Neanderthal But why did 471 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Neanderthal's not go west like Homo sapiens? And you know 472 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: how it's been hammered into our generations heads growing up 473 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: that we're all the same by implication? Does that mean 474 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: we are not in in parentheses? Slippery slope? Maybe we 475 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: are all a mismash mishmash of different types of early 476 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: humans war regards massive respect for the show. Uh, these 477 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: are some fantastic questions. Uh, what we're learning and we 478 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: as a species, as we're delving into the murky origins 479 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: of the early stages of humanity, that moment where we 480 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: start to become what would be the modern human. What 481 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: we're finding is that it is it possible that entire 482 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: regions of the world have genetic lineage descended from other 483 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: other versions of early man. And currently there there's ongoing 484 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: debate about how similar to or different from modern Homo 485 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: sapiens that Neanderthals, or the Dennis Savans or the real 486 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: life Hobbits actually were. I think it's fascinating then that 487 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: the further we get away from the time you know 488 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: that we were separate versions of humanity, only only the 489 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: further and further we get will we learn more and 490 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: more about the past. I think that's very interesting if 491 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: you look at it from a fourth dimensional perspective, that 492 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: that's this loop that has to be created almost. I 493 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: know this sounds a little weird and trippy, and I'm 494 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: not or listeners, but no, I think that's very interesting, 495 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: just that sometimes the further you get from something, the 496 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: more you're gonna learn about it. Absolutely, absolutely, because let's 497 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: not forget that. In the course of doing this show, 498 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: for as long as we've done it, we have found things, 499 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: historical things that clearly we're a conspiracy, not a theory, 500 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, not circumstantial evidence. We know who did what 501 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: and when, and it was all hush hush for you know, 502 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: decades or even centuries, and then when it came out, 503 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: usually after everyone had passed away, then it was an 504 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: obscure huh, who to thunk it type of historical thing. 505 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: But it is it is true that, you know, that's 506 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: one of the reasons, especially when you and I first started, 507 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: that we stuck with older, older instances of conspiracy because 508 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: there's a wider view. And speaking of that, here is 509 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: a message from j m uh Jay says, hey, guy, 510 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: as I love the show as a team stir. I 511 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: think it'd be great to see an episode on Jimmy Hoffa. 512 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: I love him or hate him, what happened to Halfa 513 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: is definitely something they don't want us to know. Best wishes. 514 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome halfa episode for sure. I'm gonna 515 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: write that down. Yeah, that's one of those topics that 516 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: should have been covered by us already, and we keep 517 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: finding those that they're there are topics that we just 518 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: haven't done yet that are just kind of staring at 519 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: us in the face, but we can't see them because 520 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: we're just looking at something else. Isn't that how it 521 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: always happens, Ben, That's how it happens so far, at least. 522 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give up yet. All Right, we've got 523 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: another email here from Jack. You Hi, guys. I'm Jack 524 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: from Southwest Tasmania, Australia. Huge fan of your channel podcast. 525 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: You handle even the most out there conspiracies with respect, 526 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. To keep up the good work, 527 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 1: Hey Jack, thank you. We really appreciate you. Uh so, 528 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Jack says, we have a few conspiracies here which you 529 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: may want to look into, one being the disappearance in 530 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven of our seventeen Prime Minister Harold Holt. 531 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: The official stories that he drowned while swimming in the ocean, 532 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: but for almost forty years there's been conjecture over what 533 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: really happened. One theory is that it was killed by 534 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: the c i A. Another theory was that it was 535 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: gathering intelligence for the Chinese and a small submarine picked 536 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: him up off the coast for resettlement. It sounds crazy, 537 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: but some intelligence people actually give some weight to some 538 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: of these theories. Another strange conspiracy is from my home state, 539 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: the sightings of the extinct Dialcene or Tasmanian tiger as 540 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: he's known across the water. This subject divides the island 541 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: state like none other. A lot of the old timers 542 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: tell the bands of tigers in the hills, which are 543 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: always one step ahead of the humans. Keep up the 544 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: cool work, Jack, Yeah, it's it's interesting because we know, 545 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: we know sometimes that animals were suspected of being extinct 546 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: have been rediscovered. Uh As for something the size of 547 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: a Tasmanian tiger. That is very very interesting because you know, 548 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: when we did cryptozoology, we learned about how much space 549 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: large animals need just for just for survivals, and how 550 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: improbable some of those statistics at least make it seem 551 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: uh some of the cryptozoological creatures unfortunately, because I want 552 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: to believe Ben, but I want to learn more about 553 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: Harold Holt. That's that's fascinating as well. Oh oh one 554 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: other thing. Oh man, he would kill me if I 555 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: forgot this. Jack said, I would love a shout out 556 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: to my partner in crime, Andrew A. K A deep throat. Interesting. 557 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the Watergate guy. Oh it's a 558 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: different deep throat. It might be a different one. Uh. 559 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: One other short one here before you go back to Facebook. 560 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: Brandon M wrote to us and said, I would like 561 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: to see an episode about hidden African archaeology, suppression or 562 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: right supremacy, which we have. We have touched on a bit. 563 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: We touched on a bit of it um when we 564 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: did some ancient namely in architecture topics and some lost cities. 565 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: I think we referred to it. But I would always 566 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: love to do more of that because as we're finding 567 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: the newest satellite technology, or at least the newest publicly 568 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: acknowledged satellite technology, is showing us amazing stuff about the 569 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: ancient world. I mean, we are finding so many ruins nowadays, 570 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: just with light ar which is actually liars. Is one 571 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: of the coolest things that exists right now. Another really 572 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: short one from Daniel. Daniel, you have one of the 573 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: coolest last names. I wish I could say it, but 574 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna not say it. Um he said, I think 575 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: you should do an episode on chem trails and contrails. 576 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: I think it make a very interesting video and lots 577 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: of people would enjoy it. Well, guess what, DA know, 578 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: you're in luck because we already have an episode on 579 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: that and you can find it on our channel. Just 580 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: search chem trails and maybe stuff. Don't Maybe that's a 581 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: good way. I'm not sure. Uh yeah, it can be 582 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: tricky to find some of those older ones. And you 583 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: know what meant, I would love another crack at that 584 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: topic because that was back in our our early day. Yeah, 585 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: um yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that. All right, I'm 586 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: gonna jump back over to Facebook one more time really fast. 587 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Uh this is from Bing. Thank you for writing. Bing. 588 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Bing says, would you investigate more about the possible chance 589 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: that Hitler survived World War Two and then being gave 590 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: us a link to this new information released by the 591 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: FBI in regards to a possible hiding location in Argentina. 592 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: So we've talked a little bit about the subject, but 593 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: we haven't really focused on Hitler. That's true because we 594 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: there's so many strange conspiracies and notice I say conspiracies, 595 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: not theories. There's so many strange things about the Nazi 596 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: Party in World War Two that later turned out to 597 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: be completely true that we've been We've been always careful 598 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: too before we uh delve into those, because we don't 599 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: we don't want to run out of the frankly, the 600 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: kind of easy topics. Um. But we have never done 601 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: a Hitler episode at all, and I think, I think, 602 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: especially given the recent revelations about the skull and what 603 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: may or may not have happened to Hitler's body, I 604 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: think it bears investigation now. Now for the record, uh, 605 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: the majority of scholars who study this sort of stuff 606 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: dismissed the idea of Hitler's survival as a conspiracy theory. 607 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: But even if the even if he just died in 608 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: a different way, it would still be revelatory news. And 609 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: at least there's fascinating information about the ratlines and Argentina, 610 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: all of which is real. Yeah, so it's at least 611 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: couched and enough. Here are the facts. Then the here's 612 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy part would be great. So guess 613 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: what I think we're gonna have to do that. Yeah, 614 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna have to do that. Let's also go 615 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: ahead and thank Nick. In advance. Nick wrote to us 616 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: and said, uh well, Nick said, Hi, guys, Jim, Matt, 617 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: and Ben. I've been enjoying your video podcast. I like 618 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: the longer format on the podcast. Have a couple of 619 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: show ideas for you, and he gave us one of 620 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: the greatest ones. As we said earlier, a lot of 621 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: our great ideas come from our listeners, come from you, guys, 622 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: and Nick said, do the Octopus. And that's how I 623 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: had heard about it before, but this is the reason 624 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: that I delved into it. Yeah, and much deeper than 625 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: I had ever before. So if you enjoy our series 626 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: on the Octopus, which includes both audio and video podcasts, 627 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: then you have Nick to thank and we have to 628 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: thank Nick too. So he recommended another thing that I 629 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: think my interests some listeners, and that is the Gemstone File. 630 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: Let's just read a quick bit of this. Uh. The 631 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: Gymstone File is a document, says Nick, created over several 632 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: years by a man named Bruce Roberts. The file first 633 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: began circulating around nineteen sixty nine. Because this file is 634 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: over one thousand pages, a skeleton key to the Gymstone 635 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: File was released in nineteen seventy five by Stephanie Caruna. 636 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: The file centers around Aristotle Onassis. Onassis has said to 637 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: have kidnapped Howard Hughes, gotten Kennedy elected, and later at 638 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: Kennedy killed, among many other things. The file and key 639 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: began in the thirties, with Onassis and Joseph Kennedy striking 640 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: a bootlegging deal. The key runs all the way to 641 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, when it was released. Fascinating. Yeah and 642 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: He says that both the Octopus and the gym style 643 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: uh Stone File are examples of mega conspiracies and overarching 644 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: conspiracy incorporating several smaller theories. Um and you know. As 645 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: another example, he points to the Illuminati. You know, Nick, 646 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: thank you for these fantastic suggestions. I'd love to cover 647 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: the Gemstone File as well, assuming of course, that you 648 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: and I don't don't disappear after the octopus stuff, right man, 649 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't say that. Are you feeling paranoid? Mat Yeah, 650 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: feeling I always feel paranoid. But when we cover something 651 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: like the octopus, that just feels it. It feels so real. 652 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: And you know, people people died, whether or not, whether 653 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: or not actually had anything to do with the conspiracy, 654 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,479 Speaker 1: maybe maybe not, but people died there. Numerous people died 655 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: around the octopus. Well that is, it is true that 656 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: numerous people have died. I don't know if it's all related, though, 657 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit I'm a little bit more skeptical 658 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: on that one. Certainly I as well reserve some of 659 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: my s however, Um, Danny Castelero's death is something's rotten 660 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: in Denmark? Are there? Okay? Well, we are going to 661 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: wrap up this episode of Listener Mail. Thanks to Ian 662 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: Nick Eunice, Jack, Drew, Heather, Brian Brandon, Daniel Carlos, Jay 663 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: Zack and being for writing to us. To everyone who 664 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: has written to us that hasn't made out on the 665 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: air yet, we would love to bring your stories to 666 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: the rest of the audience as soon as we can 667 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: in an upcoming episode, because again, uh not only do 668 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: all of our best ideas come from you, guys, but 669 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: also some of the most important stuff that you will 670 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: hear on this show comes from listeners just like you. 671 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it also brings a little bright to 672 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: our day when we're stuck in a cave reading about 673 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: some horrible thing that happened in history, you know, getting 674 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: a message from one of you is uh, it's a 675 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 1: It's a huge positive part of my day. At least 676 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: speak for yourself. I'm kidding and and and speaking of 677 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: because we like, we love interacting with with you guys. 678 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: So in that light, I'm gonna read one last thing 679 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: from someone named Chris who wrote to us on Facebook 680 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: Ben and he says, Hey, Ben and Matt, I was 681 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: just wondering if you guys are ever thinking about doing 682 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: a meet up at all in or around Atlanta. He's 683 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: just wondering, what do you think it's a trap? No, 684 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm getting, I'm getting I want to do 685 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: this if yeah, if people are interested, we would love 686 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: to do that. We have talked about doing a live 687 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: Google hang out again. That was that was pretty cool. 688 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: It was nice to put the faces with the names 689 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: of listeners. Um and we found some great topics that 690 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: we later made into some kick ass episodes. But you know, 691 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: let us know you guys right to us. As Matt 692 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: said on Facebook and Twitter, visit our website ww dot stuff. 693 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: They don't want you to know dot com. That's right, 694 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: the longest U r L and the business And if 695 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 1: you want to be on the air. In a later 696 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: episode of Listener Mail, go ahead and send us an email. 697 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: Our address is conspiracy at Discovery dot com. From more 698 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: on this topic, another unexplained phenomenon, visit test tube dot 699 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,479 Speaker 1: com slash conspiracy stuff. You can also get in touch 700 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter at the handle at conspiracy stuff.