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Speaker 1: take it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show, and Ron will flee if

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Speaker 1: How you guys doing man? We're doing great. Man. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: we remember a guy by the name of Darnell Docket

426
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Speaker 1: that had a great get off the ball, great get off,

427
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: but then he has like a slenderness to him, like

428
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: Calais class is so slender when he gets into that

429
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: that past mode situation in the interior rush. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's special. When you got a guy in the

431
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Speaker 1: interior that can rush the pastor especially nowadays with these

432
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: you know quarterbacks that can get out of the pocket

433
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: and use their leg if we can, you know, keep

434
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: him contain on the outside and you got a Jordan

435
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: Davis inside who can win. I mean that takes you

436
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: to an elite level, you know, as we saw with

437
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: the Rams and Aaron donald S. But you know, definitely

438
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: that's a quick tag to give him. But he has

439
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of tools and a lot of ability to

440
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: direct the shop up front like that too. They were

441
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: Sean Johnson, our guests on The Big Red Rage, former

442
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Speaker 1: Cardinals safety, member of that Alabama broadcast team. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing this correctly, Trey Lion Burks, the wide receiver

444
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Speaker 1: out of Arkansas six two two twenty five, you want tough.

445
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: He has described his tough play the game with a

446
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Speaker 1: cast on one hand. This year as a receiver of

447
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Speaker 1: four five five forty and against Bama this year he

448
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: had eight catches of bucks seventy nine receiving in two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about Trey Lion Burks because a lot of

450
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Speaker 1: mock drafts have the Arkansas receiver going to the Cardinals

451
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: man physical specimen, and then he was physical about his

452
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: play like he was one of the guys you know

453
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Speaker 1: in that game. Early on, you know, you could see

454
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: him winning in his matchups, but it was like quick games.

455
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: It was like tall sweeps to him. And then he

456
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: was just running through tackles, you know, from from the

457
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Speaker 1: cornerback of the line packer in fighting for those extra

458
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: yards you know, on plays of that nature. It wasn't

459
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: like it was a post or a goal. He was

460
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: catching the slants and catching digs and catching quick game

461
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: and then making the plays after the catch. Um. And

462
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: that's always specially unique from that ride receiver position. It's

463
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Speaker 1: one thing to separate, you know and make the play,

464
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: but can you make guys miss you know, and then

465
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: make even bigger play That just makes you elite. And

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Speaker 1: I think you know, Trey l and Burt's is elite. Um.

467
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Speaker 1: I think he's that you know one two between him

468
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: and Jamison. What are you looking for? Um? He made

469
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, have him because he has that physical statue

470
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: to him that that's gonna wear dB out if he doesn't,

471
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, scrap his chin strap up all games. Mishod.

472
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Once again, I want to go back to Georgia right

473
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Speaker 1: here in Jordan Davis because Devonte Wyatt is also a

474
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle for Georgia. Their entire defensive line is good

475
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: that much. We do know who would you take Jordan

476
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Speaker 1: Davis or Devonte Wyatt first? Who would you take? Man?

477
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: That's a great um. I like Wyatt Um in the

478
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: two games you know, watching it Bama, it just seems

479
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: like he has a little bit more arranged to him. Um,

480
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: about the same size, but in terms of just sideline

481
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: and sideline and the games that we're playing, Um, he

482
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: was able to sustain a little bit better than Jordan

483
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: Davis was. If you go back to the SEC Championship,

484
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: it seems as though he got tired, um, a little

485
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: bit fatigued. So that maybe something that you may worry about,

486
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, in a season, you know, not playing twelve games.

487
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: Now we're playing, you know, seventeen games, you know, much

488
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: longer season, playoffs, things of that nature. You know, who's

489
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to sustain with that size and that

490
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Speaker 1: weight that Jordan Davis has. Obviously you know he's an

491
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Speaker 1: elite player, we know that. But just in that one

492
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Speaker 1: game when I saw him, you know, not be able

493
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Speaker 1: to finish it, and you know, it seems as though

494
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Speaker 1: he was, you know, tired and not being able to

495
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Speaker 1: make it. It made me question, you know, in a

496
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Speaker 1: longer NFL season, how is he going to be a

497
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Speaker 1: sustaining and even as he can do it for one year,

498
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Speaker 1: can he do it for five and six years? So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to place bed. I'm gonna place it

500
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Speaker 1: on Wyatt. Do you have an opinion on the top

501
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: corner in this draft? Because we saw Derek Stingley LSU

502
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: work out today and he had his forty in between

503
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: four four flat and a four four four, I mean

504
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: his vertical thirty eight and a half. They say his

505
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: freshman season twenty nineteen was just ridiculous in turn, like

506
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson esque at the college level. But then of

507
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: course you have Sauce Gardner from Cincinnati and Andrew Booth

508
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: from Clemson. And I don't know if you how many

509
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Speaker 1: of these guys you saw in person or if you

510
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Speaker 1: had an opinion on the top corner in this draft. Yeah, yeah,

511
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: obviously got a chance to see Stingley in person, saying

512
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Speaker 1: with soft Gardener as well, and with those two guys, Man,

513
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Speaker 1: if it's me and I'm the defensive back guy, I'm

514
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: all about consistency. M I understand upside and you know, potential,

515
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: and I know people want to talk about those things,

516
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: but for me, like show me the consistency. I'm gonna

517
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Speaker 1: bet on that one hundred percent of the time because

518
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: that's what excels at the next level. You know, it's

519
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: being consistent. I don't want a guy that can, you know,

520
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: stop him on this down and then give up a

521
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: big play later on in the game because he's cheating

522
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: with his eyes. That's not my type of dB UM.

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00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: But I think there steely Um does have all the twos.

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00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, in twenty nineteen, like you said, he had

525
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: a tremendous year. I got a chance to see it

526
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: in person, but then I saw the following years not

527
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: as consistent. You know, had a few injuries here and there.

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00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Um a Sauce Gardner, no touchdown Um, just consistent in

529
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: and out. Maybe they can say the play was a

530
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: little bit less than the different league. But for me,

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Speaker 1: someone that can play on the island and do it

532
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: as consistent as you know Gardner did. Um, he has

533
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: to be your top guy. And you know he didn't

534
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Speaker 1: he perform well in the combine. So if it's me,

535
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm taking the sauce Um And you know, and I'm

536
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna double down on it, make it very spicy. That's

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00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: all right, man. So much respect for you, Bro, so

538
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: much respect. Thank for you guys, for you and the

539
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: person you are in the player you were, and the

540
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: analysts you are. Of course, thank you so much for

541
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: joining us, Bro anytime, man, anytime. Looking forward to doing

542
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: in a person next time I'm out that way. Yeah,

543
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: that would be great. Absolutely, Thank you for Shot. I

544
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: appreciate I teld your story to a couple of fifteen

545
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: year olds I dropped off at a baseball game earlier today,

546
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: just about how you went from walk on a two

547
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: time team captain in your NFL career. So inspirational in

548
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: so many different ways, and we always enjoy it. Thanks

549
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: for Shot. Anytime, Paul, I can do anything for those guys,

550
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: tell them Holly at mean, you got my number, We'll

551
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: do We'll do. There you go. That's great stuff. Man.

552
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna break that down and we're gonna get into

553
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: which positions would be most NFL ready for the Cardinals

554
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: in the draft this year. The Big Red Rage continues

555
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: right after this second down and goal well for the

556
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Chargers on the eagle too, Herbert under center Kelly the tale,

557
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: but Anderson the full back in the eye rolling to

558
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the light as Herbert, He's got Anderson of the goal

559
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: line touchdown. He's done a lot of the dirty work

560
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: for this Charger team, a lot of blocking. He's played

561
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: some fullback. He's lined up at fullback on this one.

562
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Great play baked by Justin Herbert's rolling to the right,

563
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: and it was a race between Anderson and the linebacker

564
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: t J. Edwards, and Anderson won. Ron Wolfley. This is

565
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: about as close as you'll get to a fullback on

566
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: a Cliff Kingsbury roster. You realize that the tight end

567
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: Steven Anderson, former receiver in the Pack twelve tight end

568
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, five years in the league at six

569
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Speaker 1: three two thirty and really closer to six two two thirty,

570
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: and a guy who has a hybrid or an h

571
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: back has been in the backfield quite a bit. You know,

572
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's what Cliff Kingsbury has in mind.

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00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's about as close as you're gonna

574
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: get fulfilling your wish of a fullback in this offense. No,

575
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: you're right about that, PAULI. I was glad to see

576
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: it once again, because I do think it continues to

577
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: point in arrow towards a more physical offense, a more

578
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: traditional offense to some degree. And I don't say that

579
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 1: is oh boy, look they're going to be running Kyler

580
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Murray under center. Forty snaps again that this is not

581
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But Paul, if you look across

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00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: the league, and in particular, I would say, look at

583
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, the team the Arizona Cardinals are actually

584
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: going to travel to and hold training camp practices with.

585
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Look at their offense. A lot of it is eleven personnel,

586
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is shotgun, and a lot

587
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: of it is here comes the RPO, and here comes

588
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: his zonn read of course, with Ryan Tannehill as their quarterback.

589
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: And then they mix it, Paul, with twelve personnel and look, everybody,

590
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: there's King Henry. His toes are at seven. What do

591
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: you say we let him attack the line of scrimmage.

592
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: They'll do it out of a zone scheme, and they'll

593
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: do it out of a gap scheme, which is a

594
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: power scheme, which means you basically pull the uncovered lineman

595
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: down blocks by offensive lineman and then pull the uncover

596
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: word lineman for kickouts. It's a power scheme. It's very

597
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: very physical. I think when you look at Steven Anderson,

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00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: that's exactly an arrow that continues to point towards a

599
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: more physical offense. Baul, Yeah, he gets a one year

600
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: deal around one million dollars reportedly and drew standing on

601
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report, Cardinal's former quarterback thirteen years in

602
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: the league. You know, just talked about maybe the flexibility

603
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: that some of these signees, right, some of the free

604
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: agents and the guys they brought back, and what it

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00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: does to maybe create an advantage on offense. You give

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00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: yourself flexibility within personnel group. We say say, hey, we

607
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: gain an advantage here because we really like the fact

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00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: that we can get him on the field versus him,

609
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: or we want this type of defensive personnel on the

610
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: field because they're gonna match. They're gonna stay in nickel

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00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: even if we're in twelve personnel, so they get an

612
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: advantage there, or they stay in base or whatever it is.

613
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: So we gained a passive advantage. So it becomes one

614
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: of these things where you just give yourself freedom to

615
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: go down different pass when the time comes. So two

616
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: quick thoughts Number one, maybe the Cardinals is the same.

617
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: We don't want to substitute as much that we want

618
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: to keep some of the same players but be able

619
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: to run a lot of different things out of that.

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00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe they realize that, you know, this second

621
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: half fate that our offense has suffered the last couple

622
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: of years. Maybe just maybe we were we were showing

623
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: a little too much. It was a little too predictable

624
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: based on some of our personnel groups. You mentioned this

625
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: significance of losing a Max Williams, and when Max is

626
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: on the field, you don't truly know are they going

627
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: to run it? Are they gonna throw it? Because he's

628
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: a dual tight end. So maybe just maybe that's something

629
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: they've identified and they don't want to substitute as much

630
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: because it's too much of a tell. Polly, I'm telling

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00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: you right now, honestly, you're right on it, and it's

632
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why again the Tennessee Titans are

633
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: burtle in rundown situation because of all the twelve personnel,

634
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: one back and two tight ends. I think the Arizona

635
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to do the same thing. I don't

636
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, I suspect that's where what

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: they're going to do. Brandon Staley. You know Brandon Staley

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Speaker 1: is correct Charger's head coach from a Ram's de coordinator. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ding Ding Dinging. You nailed it, Polly, right here, he

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Speaker 1: said this. You can't have enough tight ends for me

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Speaker 1: because gaps and vertical threats make you a lot more

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Speaker 1: challenging to defend. So we're always going to be looking

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Speaker 1: for that position. I really value tight ends. I feel

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Speaker 1: like from a defensive standpoint, the teams that can play

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Speaker 1: with two tight ends and make it look like a

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Speaker 1: bunch of other things, that makes it really tough on you.

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Speaker 1: So we're always going to be looking for that position

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Speaker 1: because I think it gives you an advantage structurally. Polly,

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Speaker 1: when you hear Brandon Staley, this defensive savant, when you

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Speaker 1: hear him talk about gaps and vertical threats, what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about is running the ball in between the tackles

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Speaker 1: and then using play action to throw the ball vertically,

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Speaker 1: especially over the middle of the field. That's what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about. So I think at also, once again, when

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Speaker 1: you look at all the pieces that Steve Kim and

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals have gone out and signed bringing them

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Speaker 1: back at all points towards that could I also point

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Speaker 1: towards Kyle Shanahan, George Kittle and Kyle use check and

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Speaker 1: using right and a similar type fashion. And now Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel is going to adopt some of that with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: He went out and he snagged a fullback that he's

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Speaker 1: going to use sort of in that h back spot

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Speaker 1: as well. So absolutely, now here's the question, Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you've checked that box at tight end, what are you

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Speaker 1: going to do at receiver? And I want to revisit

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Speaker 1: some of what Rasha Johnson told us about a couple

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Speaker 1: of those rookie receivers who have been mocked to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But first here's Drew stan red Sea report again just

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Speaker 1: why it's challenging to make that sort of impact that

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Speaker 1: teams want for some of these rookie receivers. As far

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Speaker 1: as wide receiver, that's another tough position to come into

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Speaker 1: because you have to be able to identify coverage and

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Speaker 1: cliff system. You have to be able to dentify hots

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Speaker 1: and sights and all these different aspects that we see

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Speaker 1: some of these guys that we've drafted high in the

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Speaker 1: past not be able to make that jump right away,

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Speaker 1: and some of them are still on the roster. So

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore, you're looking for more from him, and he

679
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Speaker 1: Isabella is still on the roster right now. Guys that

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Speaker 1: you would love to see kind of step up to

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Speaker 1: the plate because it is hard. It's something that's asked

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Speaker 1: of you, and it's a thinking portion of it, but

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Speaker 1: then there's the physical portion of it. And then when

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Speaker 1: those don't align correctly, you're going to struggle. And then

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Speaker 1: your conference starts the waiver your reaction to that Wolf

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Speaker 1: because I hear that, and I think, you know what,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have to sign another proven, better receiver or two,

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Speaker 1: even if they get one of the top guys in

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Speaker 1: round one. It's just so uncertain during a rookie receiver's

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Speaker 1: initial year. Yeah, now you're right about that, PAULI. It

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Speaker 1: really is. We've talked about this. We've had this conversation

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Speaker 1: about how difficult it is for a wide receiver to

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Speaker 1: walk in to an NFL room and suddenly go out

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Speaker 1: and make a difference the Jamar Chases of the world.

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Speaker 1: Those are exceptions, Paul Ye Okay, Justin Jeffersons, those are

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Speaker 1: once a year. That is, that is not really the

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Speaker 1: rule right there at wide receivers. So yeah, you'd love

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Speaker 1: to see that, you know what, Polly. Honestly, I wonder

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Speaker 1: about a trade right now, especially right now free agency

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Speaker 1: and the free agent frenzy is over for the most part,

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Speaker 1: and here comes the other still point. Here comes the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft where these two things free agent friends, free

703
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: agent frenzy, and then the draft. Polly, they make things happen.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed this that suddenly they force it in

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Speaker 1: certain situations? And I think right now there could be

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Speaker 1: a possible trade that Steve Kimes something Steve Kime has

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00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: done very very well with using trades. Is it possible

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Speaker 1: that he's eyeballing some of these guys across the league?

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Speaker 1: It is definitely possible. Just don't tell me you're giving

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Speaker 1: up a round two pick for Brandon Cooks. It's out there.

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Speaker 1: I know it's out there. I know what the Texans want.

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Speaker 1: Don't give it to him. Don't give up a number

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Speaker 1: two pick, a round two pick for Brandon Cooks. And

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to give him the Mondo contract

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Speaker 1: because he's going into the final year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to trade for a guy unless you

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Speaker 1: get him under a big contract extension. To me, that

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Speaker 1: is just too much. I would rather take my chances

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Speaker 1: in a round two type situation on a receiver, because

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Speaker 1: have you noticed how exorbitant the price is on receivers

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Speaker 1: to get a guy right now on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 1: I mean you think a tank of gas is expensive.

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Speaker 1: I mean you talk about inflation. Stefan Diggs just got

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Speaker 1: four years, ninety six million, seventy million in total guarantees

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Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, and that's after the Tyreek kill and Davante

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Speaker 1: Adam steals. Yeah, PAULI, it is shocking to me that

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Speaker 1: you don't like Brandon Cooks. I like him. I just

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Speaker 1: don't like to give a round two pick and the contract.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, yeah, I understand that, but but like how

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Speaker 1: much money? He's not a one. He's not a number

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Speaker 1: one receiver, Brandon Cooks. He's a number two, maybe a

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Speaker 1: one eight if you want to call him that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you a number one. Now. If he's gonna

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Speaker 1: want unbelievable money, then I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: I got no problem. Do you think you can actually

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Speaker 1: get Tyler Lockett? For a second round pick. What do

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Speaker 1: you think about that one? Now? You're think the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks would be willing to say, well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I let's let by gones be by gones. And you

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Speaker 1: know what, that number two pick looks really really good

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Speaker 1: because I'll tell you right now, Tyler Lockett over the

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Speaker 1: top of DeAndre Hopkins, and I'm sure that the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks are thinking, well, listen, we're not gonna win for

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Speaker 1: another three four years, so um yeah, maybe we'll take

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Speaker 1: that second round pick and use it. Is that a possibility?

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Speaker 1: I doubt it? But but you know what, after what

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Speaker 1: Rashad Johnson just told us right the former Cardinal safety

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Speaker 1: and Alabama broadcaster earlier here in the Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: brought you by Santan Ford and Gilbert on Treylon Burkes.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know that Arkansas receiver six to

751
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Speaker 1: twenty five first team All SEC when he's saying they're

752
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: throwing him slants and digs and short underneath stuff and

753
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: he's just making guys miss out Alabama defenders or running

754
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: through an over him and makes me think of a

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00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. It makes me think of an AJ Brown.

756
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: He's built that way, yes, or when he told us

757
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, who is a flat out flyer, This guy

758
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: is just a burner. If you watch the film making

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00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: sec dbs look slow, and he's told us that he's tough,

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00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: he's competitive. Yeah, he's a dog, he's a gunner. He

761
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: got thrown out of a game for getting into it

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Speaker 1: with someone, and he has a good versatile roud tree.

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Speaker 1: If you're telling me Jamison Williams is all that. Plus

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Speaker 1: he's a burner, I know, Polly. I mean honestly, I

765
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Speaker 1: hear everything you're saying right there. There's just one problem.

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Speaker 1: How many times have we seen wide receivers not pan out?

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Speaker 1: Ye in the NFL. I mean that's the problem. They

768
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: all came out with this kind of pedigree, in this

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Speaker 1: kind of oh my goodness, look at this guy. Look

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00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: at this guy play? Um you know I beware, man,

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Beware when you look at a

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Speaker 1: rookie and start to depend on him to actually come

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Speaker 1: through in order for you to win games. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: an upcoming addition to the big Red Rage day Pass

775
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: will join us. He's seen a lot of these guys

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00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: called a lot of their games and you can catch

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00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: up on past episodes of The Day Pash Podcast via

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Speaker 1: your preferred podcast provider. Get us the latest updates via

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00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Twitter at Pash pod. All right, we gotta finish it

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Speaker 1: up the b NBA standing for blooper or blunder. Next

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Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage with the new CBA. You

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Speaker 1: wan't get so much time to practice, and we're not

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00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna waste to stretching. Like I told him, if the

784
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Speaker 1: Dobeoman jumped out of the car with a gun, your

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00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: ass wouldn't be stretching. Give me you're running. I think

786
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Speaker 1: some of the defensive guys were holding onto their ass.

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Speaker 1: You know what are you doing? Coaches? I was taught

788
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Speaker 1: a long time ago, coach him hard and hug him later.

789
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Speaker 1: Rip a guy's ass out there. Just football. There's nothing personal.

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Speaker 1: You're just all much football stinks. You're a pretty good guy.

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Speaker 1: Thank for y'all for coming to my house. I hope

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Speaker 1: you get home set. Oh man, that was a great tone.

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Speaker 1: That was a great era of Bruce arians head coach,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal's little best to be a clip there

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Speaker 1: from our Jim Amhundro out of his fast archives and

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Speaker 1: just the one liners and the dead pans and the

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00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: laughs and Wolf I did not realize to about to

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Speaker 1: start the show. You had a chance to reconnect with

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, who is now retired former NFL head coach. Yeah, Polly,

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Speaker 1: he's doing really, really well. Had the opportunity to speak

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Speaker 1: to Bruce today. He said he lost fifty pounds. You

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Speaker 1: could see it at the press conference, could you, Polly.

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Speaker 1: I did not see that. No, Yeah, he lost a

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Speaker 1: lot of weight. You could see it in his face.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's still not good looking at all, but

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Speaker 1: you can see in his face he lost an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of way, Polly. And by the way, I asked

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Speaker 1: him at the end of the conversation if he still

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Speaker 1: would have cut me, and he said yes. And you

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Speaker 1: know it. So you probably didn't have time to get

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Speaker 1: into how he asked you to speak to the rookies

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00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: his first year and we were never invited back. In fact,

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: we don't have time to get into that. But you

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Speaker 1: did ask about Larry Fitzgerald. What was the headline from

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Speaker 1: the fitz Angle. Yeah, you know, I just said, hey, listen, um,

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Speaker 1: did you try to get Larry Fitzgerald to go and

817
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: play for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we're both laughing

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00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: and he said yes. He said. There was a little

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Speaker 1: pause and he said yeah, and why not when you

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Speaker 1: think about it. The guys were retired, you know, supposedly

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Speaker 1: at Lace. You know, he's not playing football. He picked

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Speaker 1: up the phone. He said, I had to call him

823
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Speaker 1: just to see if he was interested in possibly doing it.

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Speaker 1: And he said that Larry told him that he had

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Speaker 1: he couldn't run two plays back to back or something

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Speaker 1: like that. That's what he told me. So speaking to

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Speaker 1: the phone and Bruce Arians Drew Stanton, here's his story

828
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Speaker 1: from the Red Sea Report for your former head coach,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians announcing that he was going to step down

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Speaker 1: and Todd Boles is now the head coach. The Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: surprised her. Do you know things that maybe the rest

832
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Speaker 1: of us don't know? No, I was completely surprised. How

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Speaker 1: much time do we have here? So make sure I

834
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Speaker 1: don't go over it because I had a complete blunder

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Speaker 1: of like why you don't text in a hurry? And

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay sharing this because obviously Bea and are close,

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Speaker 1: but I had no idea and I'm walking out the

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Speaker 1: door and I missed a call from AQ Shipley and

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Speaker 1: I text them back. I was like, Hey, what's going

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Speaker 1: on in Tampa. I was like, I'm headed to my

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Speaker 1: son's baseball game. I saw BA retired. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Tom didn't force this, did he? And I go to

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Speaker 1: the baseball game. After the game, I get a text

844
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Speaker 1: from BA and he said, hey kid, it's me. Now.

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Speaker 1: He didn't force it. He's like, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: do in my own terms. And I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: you talk about day Blunder, I said, be a text

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Speaker 1: on retirement saying did Tom force you to retire? Not quite? Well,

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Speaker 1: Belichick to Brian Flores. But but I mean Drew Stanton

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Speaker 1: thought he was texting Aq Shipley with just a straightforward

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Speaker 1: did Tom oust him? And instead he was sending that

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Speaker 1: to Bruce Arians himself. Yeah? Awkward, old man, that is

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Speaker 1: awkward right there, Paul, No God about him. Man, That

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Speaker 1: is good stuff from Drew. Drew stand but Paul, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome to catch up with him. He's doing

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Speaker 1: very very well. You know what else is awesome. I'll

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Speaker 1: just stuck this in before we wrap with this edition

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Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage. You see the headline at

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Speaker 1: NFL Dot com today and I quote strongest position group

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Speaker 1: in the draft question mark, and the answer is edge defender. Edge.

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Speaker 1: That's true, man, if that's true, or you can admit

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Speaker 1: they say there's like fifteen twenty guys that can come

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Speaker 1: off the edge in this draft. I mean we started

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Speaker 1: with a rhetorical question, we'll end with one. Do the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are on wipefully need an edge rusher? You

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Speaker 1: know what, Paul, Yes, this is the great thing about it.

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Speaker 1: But I would say this, man, if there's a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver there, Paul at number twenty three that you really

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Speaker 1: really like, Oh, that's not a bad way to go.

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Speaker 1: Maybe even a corner at twenty three, that's not a

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Speaker 1: bad way to go, Paul. You could get that edge

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Speaker 1: guy in the second round. If there's that many guys,

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Speaker 1: that many guys that could come off the edge and

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Speaker 1: advanced Joe of defense. Oh yeah, man, I'm dealing with that, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I'll go wide receiver first, and that edge you know

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Speaker 1: my guy you want to hear my guy mayage rusher

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get in round two? Yeah, Nick Benito, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: you know I heard about this guy. Man, he's been

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Speaker 1: mocked out to the Cardinals a couple of times. Right now,

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Speaker 1: What do you know about him, Paul Well, His Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus grates are off the chart. His pass rush

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Speaker 1: win rate was number one in two twenty one of

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Speaker 1: any pass rusher, and it's the highest marksin's two nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and if you go back to two thou sixteen, he's

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Speaker 1: top five. The other guys are Miles Garrett and the

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Speaker 1: Bosa brothers. It's ridiculous his production and just how he

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Speaker 1: grates out. We could call him Nick Finito. Oh I

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Speaker 1: love that. Okay, here we go. Special thanks for Shan Johnson.

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Speaker 1: At least one of us does for Sean Johnson. Thank you,

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