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Speaker 1: This is Andrew Gellam, This is also Tiffany Craus, and
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Speaker 4: Happy Valentine's Day because that's recording day. Happy Black History Months,
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Speaker 1: I was about to check in with y'all.
Speaker 5: Y'all live the most fabulous lives.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've seen y'all at fashion shows.
Speaker 4: We were together in your say.
Speaker 1: Hopefully y'all are having or expect to have an amazing
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day by the time you all are in listening room.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody at home had a lovely one. Either
Speaker 1: you were loving the one you were with or you
Speaker 1: were loving being by yourself. Either way, I'm just happy
Speaker 1: for you, Okay, Happy Valentine's all Right, So we've had
Speaker 1: since the last time we were together. The Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and gone, the Valentine's dating gone, Usher gone, and them.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, she's still.
Speaker 6: Here, still here us.
Speaker 4: She's going on tour, which you mean, And guys, a
Speaker 4: married man in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I saw the news. Boy, what is Vegas for? It
Speaker 1: is not for a shotgun.
Speaker 6: Wedding, comment, residency and other news.
Speaker 1: What the hell have y'all been up to? Ladies?
Speaker 7: Okay, I can say, well, we've been up to. We
Speaker 7: did go to fashion Week, New York Fashion Week, and
Speaker 7: Angela encouraged me to wear a ponytail, which I've never done.
Speaker 7: I felt like my forehead is too big for that.
Speaker 7: And now that I've born this ponytail, I will be
Speaker 7: wearing it in perpetuity.
Speaker 1: So I'm loving it.
Speaker 3: Show everybody, Yeah, with my hair back and forth.
Speaker 1: What y'all think out there in pod?
Speaker 7: In pod world, Andrew's been making fun of me, talking
Speaker 7: about somebody please get to get that horse some water.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: It was out of respect for all animal life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, all mammal life, all mammal life.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we've been kicking it.
Speaker 1: We've been kicking it, Angela.
Speaker 4: We went to Sergio Hudson's fashion show Amazing in particular,
Speaker 4: and that's our time where we all reconnect.
Speaker 6: It's our you know, our little girl time, and we love.
Speaker 1: It all right, So if people want to know what
Speaker 1: y'all were.
Speaker 6: Wearing Hudson.
Speaker 3: Sergio down to the socks. We were searching.
Speaker 6: Down to the socks and you had no socks.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, it was a good time. What you been
Speaker 3: up to, Andrew. We hadn't seen you such.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 1: The last time we were together, you said to me, uh, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: that the rattlers have been looking for me. So I
Speaker 1: decided to let y'all find me. I'm right here, baby,
Speaker 1: this family way representing my orange and green go, Rattlers go,
Speaker 1: rattlers go, rattless, strike, strike, strike again. I am a
Speaker 1: proud of them. It's the Florida and M University and
Speaker 1: Farmer Step president on the books. Yeses have been a
Speaker 1: I'm a lifetime member of the alumni Association. And if
Speaker 1: you're not stop repping until you get paid up. Y'all
Speaker 1: paid up? Okay, Andrew?
Speaker 4: I love that you said, let me tell you about
Speaker 4: this black history I made for black history, right.
Speaker 7: And I mean, just a really quick point about what
Speaker 7: you're saying about pay up because a lot of HBCU's alumni.
Speaker 7: You asked did you have a nurturing environment there? And
Speaker 7: people say yes, and then it's like do you give
Speaker 7: back to your school? And then a lot of people
Speaker 7: say no, so I love that point, Andrew, thank.
Speaker 1: You, Tiffany. Folks got dead. I get it, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying every little bit okay. On this episode, we're
Speaker 1: going to discuss Biden is old. The Special Prosecutors Report
Speaker 1: put the president's cognitive abilities back at the center of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election conversation. Democrat Tom Suazi wins
Speaker 1: George Santos's former congressional seat Long Island, New York. Should
Speaker 1: anyone anyone be joking about George Floyd's death? And it's
Speaker 1: almost time for the All Star Game, which you all
Speaker 1: know you can't resist. Our friend Tiffany Cross is brilliant
Speaker 1: sports commentary. We also get to the viewers questions, our
Speaker 1: favorite part of the pod. Stay tuned, everybody, and welcome home,
Speaker 1: Iiff Angela. I don't really know where to begin except
Speaker 1: where we have to began. But in the meantime between time, y'all,
Speaker 1: Trump then lost at the DC Appeals Court. He wants
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court to issue a ritisseurciar rory to bring
Speaker 1: the case to the US Supreme Court to do what
Speaker 1: stop the January sixth trial. He wants to put that
Speaker 1: on postponement. Anybody have an answer as to why Tiffany
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I honestly, I got it. Just be honest.
Speaker 7: I'm e with talking about Trump. I know he's the
Speaker 7: front runner of the Republican Party and we have to
Speaker 7: talk about it. But honestly, one thing Andrew that frustrates
Speaker 7: me is people talk about Biden's age and compare it
Speaker 7: like it has like like Trump is not the existential
Speaker 7: threat not just to America but the globe. So to me,
Speaker 7: all the indictments and I can't even keep up with
Speaker 7: all Trump's challenges. I've always often said trying to cover
Speaker 7: him and all his scandals is like trying to catch confetti.
Speaker 7: And when I hear people make this false equivalence like, oh,
Speaker 7: but Biden's old, It's like, yeah, Trump is old, and
Speaker 7: he's crooked, and he's a trader, and he is an
Speaker 7: existential threat to the globe. So I kind of want
Speaker 7: to address some of these issues that people seem to
Speaker 7: have with Biden's age, which I do think is a
Speaker 7: legitimate concern, but it pales in comparison to the concern
Speaker 7: from the other front runner, in my opinion.
Speaker 1: So that's it. Oh, Angela, you but you're already there.
Speaker 1: You want to take it from there.
Speaker 6: Sure, I was just gonna say tip to your point.
Speaker 4: Eighty six percent of Americans agree that Joe Biden is
Speaker 4: too old in their concern, and then sixty two percent
Speaker 4: of Americans agree that Trump is too old in their concern.
Speaker 4: So therefore a majority of Americans think that Joe Biden
Speaker 4: and Donald Trump are too old for the presidency.
Speaker 6: According to this latest ABC News ipsos.
Speaker 4: Paul, I think that what we now have before us
Speaker 4: is there's an elephant in the room, no pun intended,
Speaker 4: because of Special Prosecutor Robert Hur's recent report where he
Speaker 4: quotes says he's a well meaning elderly man with a
Speaker 4: poor memory. And I think that what we really see
Speaker 4: as someone who took a flamethrower approach. Merrick Garland appointed
Speaker 4: a Trump appointee to be special prosecutor, probably in the
Speaker 4: name of fairness because somebody asked him to do that.
Speaker 4: I'm asking for his resignation at this point. But what
Speaker 4: he also indicates very clearly is that Joe Biden cannot
Speaker 4: be charged in this classified document's case. And it's not
Speaker 4: because he was a well meaning elderly man with a
Speaker 4: poor memory. It's because there was no case that they
Speaker 4: could prosecute. We all know when they got a little
Speaker 4: bit of something, they're going to go forward with it
Speaker 4: because they couldn't.
Speaker 6: I think that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4: So on this point again, to just encapsulate this around age,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden is the oldest sitting president at this time
Speaker 4: at eighty one. Donald Trump, by the time, if he
Speaker 4: were elected in the fall, would then be tied with
Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan at seventy eight years old for being the
Speaker 4: second oldest. I think that we should always be taken
Speaker 4: into consideration age, mental ability, and fitness. For attorneys, we
Speaker 4: have to do character fitness. We don't have to do
Speaker 4: psychological evaluations. But I think that is fair game for
Speaker 4: the president of the United States. And furthermore, when you
Speaker 4: look at corporate boards, seventy two you have to be
Speaker 4: seventy two or under for most corporate boards, for CEOs
Speaker 4: you have to be sixty five and under. These are
Speaker 4: fair points. But again, when to Test's point, there's an
Speaker 4: existential crisis, democracy is on the line. Would you rather
Speaker 4: take an old full or a fascist?
Speaker 7: I take the old full, yeah, And I don't think
Speaker 7: a lot of people are paying attention to the minutia
Speaker 7: of politics, right. I think people are like the whole
Speaker 7: thing with Biden in the campaign documents. Unless you're like
Speaker 7: sitting in the echo chambers watching cable news twenty four
Speaker 7: hours a day, people aren't talking about that, you know,
Speaker 7: like people here Biden's I'm old and Trump is crooked,
Speaker 7: Like those are the two people have a tendency to
Speaker 7: read the headlines and not the story. I think if
Speaker 7: you look at these two candidates and see what the
Speaker 7: implications are from each of them. When Trump was in office,
Speaker 7: his own staff consistently talked about invoking or evoking the
Speaker 7: twenty fifth Amendment. It was not the media calling for that,
Speaker 7: it was his staff. No, you have not heard anything
Speaker 7: like that from Joe Biden's camp. And I'm not here
Speaker 7: to be a spokesperson for Biden or an apologist for
Speaker 7: the party. I think we have to acknowledge it's a
Speaker 7: legitimate concern about his age. But you got two choices
Speaker 7: right now, And so if you're thinking about I'm gonna
Speaker 7: sit this out because I'm not excited about either candidate,
Speaker 7: or if you're thinking you know that you're confused about
Speaker 7: who to vote for because they're both old. I think
Speaker 7: both of those are bad choices. And Andrew, you've said this,
Speaker 7: you said, when you sit out, that is making a decision.
Speaker 1: The decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are your thoughts on how this, Andrew?
Speaker 7: Because you've run for office so many times and you
Speaker 7: know how much energy it takes and one yes, yes,
Speaker 7: and you know what energy it takes. I mean, what
Speaker 7: do you think about how this is going? There's not
Speaker 7: going to be another like Joe. Biden is the he
Speaker 7: is the soldier we taken to this war.
Speaker 3: So what Yeah, And.
Speaker 6: I've said at the convention, they could.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they could. Hopefully will be uneventful
Speaker 1: at the convention. Wouldn't that be news? But I gotta
Speaker 1: tell y'all, it baffles me that we are camped out
Speaker 1: in this Biden age, you know, campfire, when Trump is
Speaker 1: the maniac out there calling Nancy Pelosi by one of
Speaker 1: his opponent's names. He's these rants. I know, we don't
Speaker 1: listen as much as we used to him because now
Speaker 1: the media has finally learned that the man is a
Speaker 1: carnival you know, Barker and a carnival act himself. But
Speaker 1: he's saying just the most outrageous things and frankly the
Speaker 1: most dangerous things, uh, that could be coming out of
Speaker 1: a former president of the United States and certainly someone
Speaker 1: who hopes to be president of the United States. Again,
Speaker 1: this is what I hope. I hope that all of
Speaker 1: us sit down and take a very very very serious
Speaker 1: look at they're both old. Dr let's take that out
Speaker 1: the recipe. We got two choices, Option A, Option B.
Speaker 1: Actually option A and option Z. If you want to
Speaker 1: be close to the highest of alphabet, you know, the heavens,
Speaker 1: stay with the a's Andrew Biden the one. No, just
Speaker 1: just since short, we have to we have to mature
Speaker 1: ourselves in this electoral process that when you have two candidates,
Speaker 1: it's not about the perfect. The perfect it can't be
Speaker 1: the enemy of the good. And in this case, we
Speaker 1: have a good option in Joe Biden, and we've got
Speaker 1: the most experienced of the candidates out there and somebody
Speaker 1: who's not gonna quite frankly launch us into according to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, world War two. But he missed that part
Speaker 1: of history. Uh, Donald Trump would launch us into World
Speaker 1: War three or certainly allow you know, sick of fans
Speaker 1: of of of of Vladimir putin to take, you know,
Speaker 1: to have their way, and he said as much. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is age needs to be relegated to its
Speaker 1: proper place. And in my opinion, it ain't nothing but
Speaker 1: a number.
Speaker 3: Can I say.
Speaker 7: Saying something about that entry, because one I think we
Speaker 7: have to acknowledge this is about Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7: You know, people are we cannot have her a pulse
Speaker 7: away from presidency because people are intimidated by the leadership
Speaker 7: of black women and they would rather see this country
Speaker 7: turn to ashes before they see somebody who looks like
Speaker 7: me run it. And that's a really unfortunate mentality. But
Speaker 7: I think to your point, Andrew, what you're referencing is
Speaker 7: Donald Trump talked about countries who are not paying their
Speaker 7: fair share into NATO he would not protect. This is
Speaker 7: a huge for folks who don't.
Speaker 3: Know what NATO is.
Speaker 7: It is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. It's an agreement
Speaker 7: established after World War Two. It's hugely important. And for
Speaker 7: him to say we will no longer protect you, that
Speaker 7: was a huge deal ten years ago when he said this,
Speaker 7: And now the Republican Party is falling in line saying yep,
Speaker 7: we agree with that when he says, listen, Vladimir Putin,
Speaker 7: you can do what you want when I'm in office,
Speaker 7: because I'm gonna leave those countries out in the open
Speaker 7: for you to annex, for you to do whatever you like.
Speaker 7: I cannot stress what an existential threat that is to
Speaker 7: the globe, not just domestic policies, but to the globe.
Speaker 7: I'm kind of over Trump and all of this.
Speaker 1: I feel you, and the only reason why, as you
Speaker 1: all know, I mean, I don't have to convince you,
Speaker 1: but certainly for our listeners who were so thankful for
Speaker 1: It's important, as asinine as it feels, having to reflect
Speaker 1: on Donald Trump's comments, what he's saying, what he's not saying,
Speaker 1: who he's meeting with, and how he's campaigning. We have
Speaker 1: learned this much. This man says the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 1: He means what he says, and we ought to take
Speaker 1: him at his word. So we don't find ourselves over
Speaker 1: the creek, over the barrel, you know, without a let
Speaker 1: me just go here. Let's hear how the president's own
Speaker 1: administration is now responding to these new claims around Biden's
Speaker 1: age and fitness and so on and so forth.
Speaker 4: It ain't that new, but the report is newer, right,
Speaker 4: the reward is and unfortunately, Angela, the reason we're talking
Speaker 4: about is because you've got now Democrats who are.
Speaker 1: Co signing these kinds of comments for either all alternati
Speaker 1: an alternate agenda, or they really believe it. Let's hear
Speaker 1: from a Press secretary, Jean Pierre.
Speaker 8: Look, I got this question last week as well, and
Speaker 8: I'm just going to say, what the what doctor O'Connor's
Speaker 8: kind of a what he said to me about a
Speaker 8: year ago when the report came out last year obviously
Speaker 8: on his physical which is the president proves every day
Speaker 8: how he operates, how he thinks, right by dealing with
Speaker 8: word leaders, by making really difficult decisions on behalf of
Speaker 8: the American people, whether it's domestic, whether it's national security,
Speaker 8: and so he shows it every day on how he thinks,
Speaker 8: how he operates. And so that is how the doctor
Speaker 8: o'conter sees it, and that's how I'm going to leave it.
Speaker 1: Well, the Press secretary took a very polite approach to
Speaker 1: addressing this question. And what I meant by we've got
Speaker 1: to mature ourselves as we approach elections. What I mean
Speaker 1: is why your local mayor, school board member and commissioner
Speaker 1: might be relied on to be at the city festival
Speaker 1: and cut ribbons and do those kinds of things. Those
Speaker 1: are just not my expectations anymore for a president of
Speaker 1: the United States. I want them to know what they're
Speaker 1: talking about them, I want what they're talking about. I
Speaker 1: want them to be steeped in public policy. I want
Speaker 1: them to have a heart for people and to be
Speaker 1: clear in their compass around why it is every single
Speaker 1: day they choose to get up and do the hardest
Speaker 1: job on earth.
Speaker 4: So far as I know, I see now we down
Speaker 4: a different road, and I'm just gonna say that this
Speaker 4: is exactly the problem. This is why people are starting
Speaker 4: to see a closing gap between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: There does seem to be a callus side of Joe
Speaker 4: Biden that's popping up.
Speaker 6: Look at the response to Israel and Gaza.
Speaker 1: You know, like I'm talking about ribbon.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm never talking about ribbon cutting. I don't need you
Speaker 4: to cut no ribbon. I need you to show up
Speaker 4: for black people the way they showed up for you
Speaker 4: in South Carolina. I need you to show up for
Speaker 4: these kids who are dying every single day. I need
Speaker 4: you to show up in our wages. I need you
Speaker 4: to show up. There's all this talk about Donald Trump
Speaker 4: and the Stimmies.
Speaker 6: Joe Biden didn't want to sign the stimmies.
Speaker 4: Show up on that show up when when black people
Speaker 4: need relief, don't just claim credit for the black businesses
Speaker 4: that were started under your administration. Show up and give
Speaker 4: them some additional relief, some additional access to government contracts,
Speaker 4: some additional says to party contracts, some advice.
Speaker 6: I can keep going.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, at the end of the day, I don't
Speaker 4: feel like he is demonstrating that he's Yes, he's different,
Speaker 4: he's not a fascist. But your response to what is
Speaker 4: happening in Gaza is callous. Your response to what is
Speaker 4: happening at the border is callous. That is not okay.
Speaker 4: You have to draw a wider gap between you and evil.
Speaker 4: And it used to be that this big tent party
Speaker 4: put people first. That is the way that it must be.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I am not gung ho Biden right now.
Speaker 4: What I was most excited about was Kamala telling the
Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal last week that she was ready to
Speaker 4: serve and there was no question about that. That's what
Speaker 4: I'm most in response to his age. And I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 4: I don't want us to get to the point where
Speaker 4: we started being like, well, he's such a good man,
Speaker 4: like I want him to be a good man on policy.
Speaker 4: I don't need him to show up and know my
Speaker 4: name and pat me on the back. I want to
Speaker 4: see it in the policy.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I don't see it right now, co sign.
Speaker 1: But I just got to say this much, which is
Speaker 1: I would rank him as among the most accomplished democratic
Speaker 1: presidents in the history of the now. He he ain't
Speaker 1: boastful like we have seen in the past. He can't
Speaker 1: play no saxophone. There were a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of old white men. I'm just saying, a
Speaker 1: lot of white white old man tactics, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of the vibes that you get from him. But I
Speaker 1: can't tell y'all enough what that stimulus package you did
Speaker 1: for everyday Americans. And I that it went, but but
Speaker 1: we never had that before. It didn't exist under a
Speaker 1: different administration. The closest we ever had before was Roosevelt,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, from student aid and learned forgiveness to
Speaker 1: the incentivized programs that exists at the federal level for
Speaker 1: freaking first time home ownership, and on and on and
Speaker 1: on childcare, the way in which they have.
Speaker 6: So credit. But we're white people over like a college
Speaker 6: kids are.
Speaker 4: Dying, like you can get a child tax credit if
Speaker 4: your kid's dead, Like, we just can't.
Speaker 6: We can't implement policy.
Speaker 1: This way, three Antela. But for you and everyone else
Speaker 1: out there, two things can be true at once. He
Speaker 1: can be wrong in his approach with regards to to
Speaker 1: Israel and what's happening to the Palestinian people who deserve
Speaker 1: their own state, and how dare be life? That true
Speaker 1: just at the same time as his emphasis on trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that the American people cannot just live
Speaker 1: and survive, but they can thrive. And I believe that
Speaker 1: that work is in his heart. I've seen it exhibited
Speaker 1: in public policy. Now we just need those public policy
Speaker 1: positions renewed. And he's got to get at it with
Speaker 1: a more vigorous fight, both him and the Vice President
Speaker 1: and Democrats on the Hill to deliver not just talk
Speaker 1: about it, but be about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will shout them out. On the unemployment rate, too.
Speaker 4: The black unemployment rate is the lowest has been in history.
Speaker 6: I want it.
Speaker 4: I acknowledge where I've seen growth, but I'm just telling
Speaker 4: you the other things are so it's blind shocked it can.
Speaker 6: I just tiff I didn't cut you out five times inside, No, I'm.
Speaker 1: About to cut all of us off because we have
Speaker 1: gone over.
Speaker 7: At the time, I was just going to say, you
Speaker 7: brought up immigration and that was a big deal in
Speaker 7: the special election here in New York, and I know
Speaker 7: we wanted to talk about that.
Speaker 1: No, Tiffany, you're right on it. Thank you for taking us. Well,
Speaker 1: we want to go, which is to hear from our viewers,
Speaker 1: which I hope you noticed in the past couple of episodes.
Speaker 1: We've been trying to make sure that your voice is
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Speaker 1: you were questioned. Let's here.
Speaker 9: My name is.
Speaker 6: Tanisha Lyons Porter.
Speaker 9: I live in Los Angeles, California, View Park, Wednesory Hills.
Speaker 6: To be exact.
Speaker 9: I have a question, so election time, local elections, propositions,
Speaker 9: all of that stuff. How do you all do your
Speaker 9: due diligence to research the judges and the board members
Speaker 9: and the propositions Because California, I don't know about other states,
Speaker 9: but it be confusing. And our family used to do
Speaker 9: it as a group, but my dad passed away a
Speaker 9: few years ago, my mom is gone, and we still
Speaker 9: want to do it as a group, but.
Speaker 6: It's overwhelming, and it's overwhelming.
Speaker 9: So how do you all do your due diligence and
Speaker 9: research for your local elections?
Speaker 1: That's a perfect, perfect question and a good transition from
Speaker 1: talking about the presidential now the congressional. Look, folks want
Speaker 1: to talk about state and local. How do y'all make
Speaker 1: your decisions? What do you do when you're vetting a
Speaker 1: candidate or a policy position that may be on the ballot?
Speaker 1: Tiffany wants you let us know?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, first I want to say how much I
Speaker 7: love this question, Andrew, And I'm actually really interested in
Speaker 7: your response because you've run at a local level and
Speaker 7: a state level, which is different than running at a
Speaker 7: federal level, and I think you know understanding who's responsible
Speaker 7: for what is so integral to our civic engagement in
Speaker 7: the process. For me, I first want to make sure
Speaker 7: I understand the exact issue, because the interesting thing about
Speaker 7: this question asking at state and local level, this is
Speaker 7: where voting blocks can fracture. That's why I don't like
Speaker 7: terms like the black vote or the Latino vote, because
Speaker 7: that some of these down ballot initiatives there are things
Speaker 7: about you know how budgets are operated, or you know
Speaker 7: where or how budgets are allocated. I should say, so
Speaker 7: I try to look at it and make sure I'm
Speaker 7: getting material and information from the source directly. All of
Speaker 7: these candidates have a website. You can go there and
Speaker 7: look and see how they feel about something. For people
Speaker 7: who are curious about this, you'd be surprised if you're
Speaker 7: somebody and somebody's running for a state rep. If you
Speaker 7: can get twenty or thirty of your friends at your
Speaker 7: house and you say, hey, we would like to invite
Speaker 7: you to my home to hear exactly how you feel.
Speaker 7: Reach out to them because that is precisely what they need.
Speaker 7: They will show up at your home and answer questions
Speaker 7: and engage with you, but make sure you're informed. I
Speaker 7: will say, do not go off political ads. Political ads
Speaker 7: are meant to do exactly that sway your opinion, and
Speaker 7: it might not be accurate. It's meant to sway the
Speaker 7: person's opinion to their liking, and sometimes people don't even
Speaker 7: know that some of these ads are are funded by
Speaker 7: extremists or right wing organizations. During the Super Bowl you
Speaker 7: see a lot of religious ads, and when you start
Speaker 7: digging to say, who's paying for this, we love Jesus Dad,
Speaker 7: it is somebody who does not live their life according
Speaker 7: to the principles of a good book.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna assure you.
Speaker 7: So I would say, go to the source and don't
Speaker 7: be afraid to reach out to candadas directly and see
Speaker 7: where your values align.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that. What about you, Angela?
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that I still very much
Speaker 4: do My parents and I fill out our ballots together
Speaker 4: in Washington State, and I love doing that because it
Speaker 4: turns into a little debate, and I think that you
Speaker 4: guys can see that I didn't fall far from that.
Speaker 4: So we've been doing that since I was a little
Speaker 4: kid and I couldn't vote and I wanted to. I
Speaker 4: definitely understand what she's saying about wanting to do that
Speaker 4: as a family, and we will sit there and pull
Speaker 4: up the positions. As Tip is talking about that voter
Speaker 4: booklet that comes out with their positions, look them up,
Speaker 4: fact check them, see if any of your homies endorse
Speaker 4: some and the day in there like you can look
Speaker 4: at it that way. But I think this question is
Speaker 4: great because sometimes voting day is not just that, you know,
Speaker 4: second Tuesday in November. There are also elections throughout the year.
Speaker 4: There are primaries, and there are special elections of which
Speaker 4: there was just one Andrew tell us about that just
Speaker 4: the other day election in New York.
Speaker 1: Rah, Well, I'm saying to them, but the Democrats did
Speaker 1: win that race. I want to speak though, Angela if
Speaker 1: I could to the question, I believe it was Tanisha
Speaker 1: from La and just say this communal aspect of voting
Speaker 1: that has been so deeply, I think, sort of stitched
Speaker 1: into our community and our culture. We've got to maintain
Speaker 1: that because what the opposition wants to do is make
Speaker 1: this thing seem complicated, overly intellectual, and frankly not accessible
Speaker 1: for everyday people. And why is it that they don't
Speaker 1: want it accessible for every day people? Because they didn't
Speaker 1: want you holding them accountable like that they want you
Speaker 1: to listen to. Tiffany said, those ads which may not
Speaker 1: be backed by them, and even the ones back by them,
Speaker 1: are usually portraying what it is that they want you
Speaker 1: to believe about them. Could be true, could be not,
Speaker 1: could be frankly a little bit of both. So the
Speaker 1: communal aspect breaks down I think one of the most
Speaker 1: significant barriers to entry, which is the shit is too
Speaker 1: complicated and it's you know, I just I would rather
Speaker 1: check out and deal with what I got to deal
Speaker 1: with rather than go and try and understand and learn
Speaker 1: about that. And so I would just recommend, you know,
Speaker 1: keep that communal aspect up. In addition to what my
Speaker 1: colleagues have just said, beautiful question, and we want you
Speaker 1: all to of course keep the questions and comments coming.
Speaker 1: We want to, of course invite you to download eight
Speaker 1: and also get feedback to the podcast, because as you know,
Speaker 1: we listen and we put it right here weekly in
Speaker 1: front of you, y'all. We're gonna transition real quick to politics.
Speaker 3: Is what everywhere.
Speaker 1: I need some excitement.
Speaker 6: Politics are what everywhere everywhere?
Speaker 10: A little delayed angela look delayed, No, no, no messing
Speaker 10: with you politics are very where.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, ladies, this is probably one
Speaker 1: of my more favorite parts of the podcast, where we
Speaker 1: get to I don't know, trafficking things that we may
Speaker 1: or may not be expert.
Speaker 3: Tiffany, I'm a sort expert. And how dare you? Anyway?
Speaker 6: Who won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: Tip?
Speaker 7: The Chiefs won the Super Bowl? And just for those
Speaker 7: who don't know, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey both play
Speaker 7: for the Teas and they're on the same team.
Speaker 6: Good job.
Speaker 1: Thanks did you get Did they come for you? Did
Speaker 1: they come for your friends?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 3: A little bit, A little bit, It's fine.
Speaker 4: They really dragged us more for talking about Travis Kelsey
Speaker 4: saying he didn't like didn't say that, but.
Speaker 6: You know that's how you know they don't.
Speaker 7: Listen to this, That's what I'm saying. Don't watch clips
Speaker 7: and think that's the whole thing. Don't we headlines and
Speaker 7: think that's the whole story. Listen to the entire podcast
Speaker 7: and some good stuff in there. You might learn something.
Speaker 7: Stop being sweater fingers and listen before you weigh in.
Speaker 7: Because it takes every day everyone to fight some of
Speaker 7: these comments.
Speaker 3: But I did the other day. I broke thank you.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So when when Angela refers to breaking the rule, I
Speaker 1: just think, you know what, your opinion of me is
Speaker 1: really your business, and uh.
Speaker 3: I'm with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want you down in the show off of misinformation?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm quick to check and I'll turn it effact.
Speaker 3: Well, whatever, what are we? What is the politics everywhere?
Speaker 1: Well, y'all tell me where is it today? Well?
Speaker 7: I so, something that I found interesting is it's been
Speaker 7: a lot of drama in the world of comedy from clubs,
Speaker 7: two people, you know, throwing hooks back and forth. And
Speaker 7: so that's been really interesting to watch because obviously I'm
Speaker 7: not a comedian.
Speaker 3: I'm just naturally funny.
Speaker 1: Are you sure you're not a comedian, But I'm naturally funny. Different.
Speaker 3: I think I could do. I think I could get
Speaker 3: on stage and riff. I really do. Notice to all
Speaker 3: my comedian friends, I think so.
Speaker 1: So long as you don't like my boy, comedian David.
Speaker 7: Louke, Okay, I like I honestly, I don't like why
Speaker 7: you call him your boy.
Speaker 6: Don't call him your boy.
Speaker 1: Listen, I said, you know.
Speaker 6: Maybe you're welcome in everybody home.
Speaker 1: Let me. I think that's what we do here. I
Speaker 1: think we I think we have grace. We are a
Speaker 1: we are to meet.
Speaker 6: The lots are changed for this dude.
Speaker 1: Let's David Lucas, who is a comedian pretty popular amongst
Speaker 1: his audience.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've never heard. Honestly, I don't think
Speaker 3: he's I've never.
Speaker 4: Man, this is the most shine he about to get ever.
Speaker 4: In like the first and last time we ever.
Speaker 7: Going to I didn't have a huge following. He was
Speaker 7: grossly unheard, up mostly up.
Speaker 1: And coming comedian. All right, we make space for all.
Speaker 6: He's up and gone.
Speaker 1: Who took it? Some say a little too far when
Speaker 1: he joked about the unfortunate and untimely passing the murderer
Speaker 1: of George Floyd, which really spurred a reaction from the audience.
Speaker 1: Y'all take a look and tell me what we think.
Speaker 11: And all these good ass white people at my show,
Speaker 11: and you wanted to show them the reason George Floyd
Speaker 11: got his neck kneeled dog no ooh had that joke.
Speaker 11: It's just a joke, man. I would have never kneeled
Speaker 11: on George Floyd's neck. I would have shot that, and
Speaker 11: that was It's called comedy. You really stop to put
Speaker 11: the house with you look like you drive a yellow taxicab.
Speaker 11: You y'all good? Are y'all about? I like Kyle Rittenhouse too.
Speaker 1: For those of you who are listening and not watching,
Speaker 1: you missed audience members getting up, walking out, shouting back
Speaker 1: and forth. Jesus, remember when the comedy was like funny?
Speaker 1: This guy's like low brow.
Speaker 6: I mean, I am sick from this clip. I'm sick.
Speaker 1: There's there's, but there's there's just there's just no comedy there.
Speaker 1: Y'all think I guess.
Speaker 6: Who was laughing. I want to know who is.
Speaker 7: Sometimes when people outside of the community hear somebody in
Speaker 7: the community say that they are, they mistakenly think this
Speaker 7: is an appropriate joke.
Speaker 3: And there was nothing funny about that.
Speaker 1: The nervous there's also the nervous laughs laugh.
Speaker 7: I heard laughter, and I didn't find that funny. And Angela,
Speaker 7: I would say, Angela disagree. I didn't want to even
Speaker 7: play the clip at all. Well, because it gives a
Speaker 7: highlight I think is disrespectful to the Floyd family to
Speaker 7: have to hear that. I think it's disrespectful to all
Speaker 7: of us who remember that moment so keenly. And I
Speaker 7: think the key to comedy is it has to be funny,
Speaker 7: and what this man lacks in humor he makes up
Speaker 7: for in controversy. And he will find that actually is
Speaker 7: not talent. And so I think he's already gotten too
Speaker 7: much airtime on Native Landpod in my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: Well, I just think, you know, part of this is
Speaker 1: are we There're two questions for me. One we've just
Speaker 1: seen after the super Bowl. You know, Kanye sort of
Speaker 1: you know, put itself back out there a little bit.
Speaker 5: Maybe he has a deal, possibly a redeal underway, but
Speaker 5: really you know, speaking up and talking a little bit
Speaker 5: more about his mental health, making you know, bad statements
Speaker 5: and actions all along the way.
Speaker 1: But who among us hasn't And I just wonder what
Speaker 1: is the road to like recovery once you do something
Speaker 1: so foolish. Now I don't even know if this guy,
Speaker 1: the comedian recognizes the harm of his ways. You all
Speaker 1: are right to focus first on the family, which is
Speaker 1: it's got to be harmful to them. But if we
Speaker 1: were to carry this, you know, a little step further,
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, how do people start to you know,
Speaker 1: rehabilitate themselves and become part of frankly acceptable audience, and
Speaker 1: then two for me. And this is probably even bigger
Speaker 1: than the first, and it is, have we really learned
Speaker 1: anything from the summer of our awakening, where we thought
Speaker 1: folks regardless of their color, where they live, with neighborhood,
Speaker 1: where they grew up. We're starting to understand at least
Speaker 1: appreciate the plight of black folks, black men particularly, but
Speaker 1: black folks in this country has released to criminal justice.
Speaker 1: Did we learn a lesson?
Speaker 4: But this is the thing, right, So Tiff talked about
Speaker 4: how we disagreed about whether or not to play the clip.
Speaker 4: I wanted to play the clip because I think there
Speaker 4: are more people who hold that sentiment than not. And
Speaker 4: what is what is reflected in is to this very
Speaker 4: point around twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Do you know since twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: There have been three hundred and forty billion dollars committed
Speaker 4: by Fortune one thousand companies towards racial justice efforts. So
Speaker 4: if they're laughing this in this comedy club and we
Speaker 4: cannot account for what was initially sixty six billion now
Speaker 4: has turned to three hundred and forty billion, then the
Speaker 4: joke is on us. The joke is on us as
Speaker 4: black consumers, our buying power is near one point three
Speaker 4: trillion dollars. The fact that you can continue to say,
Speaker 4: I'm committing this, I'm gonna I'm gonna push this money
Speaker 4: towards efforts that protect your safety and ensure your livelihood
Speaker 4: and your viability and equity in this country. But I
Speaker 4: am going to as soon as the Supreme Court says
Speaker 4: no affirmative action in higher education college admissions, now I'm
Speaker 4: going to retract everything that I did.
Speaker 6: Racial reckoning no more.
Speaker 4: We shall overcome hell, we done overcame enough, y'all have
Speaker 4: what you need. I'm pulling all of this back, all
Speaker 4: of my DEI team Meta, Google, Amazon, Twitter, and everywhere else,
Speaker 4: including Paramount that just laid off a lot of people
Speaker 4: just the other day, most of them black folks. All
Speaker 4: of that is dissipated because you can't handle a little pressure.
Speaker 4: You can't get creative for the people that helped you
Speaker 4: to build this joint. Like, I have so many issues
Speaker 4: with this fifty five percent increase in DEI positions after
Speaker 4: George Floyd's death. We are forty percent of the attrition
Speaker 4: rate of the layoffs in those roles. That is the
Speaker 4: joke on us, well the people laughing in that comedy club.
Speaker 4: Are probably in hiring positions, are probably in authority making
Speaker 4: decision making positions and saying they're good they're gonna do
Speaker 4: one thing, but really doing another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they may not be.
Speaker 7: Even if they're not in hiring positions, they're certainly in
Speaker 7: safe positions, like their.
Speaker 3: Jobs are not of risk at ours.
Speaker 7: But I think you bring up a good point, Angela
Speaker 7: about all the commitment we heard. I think this will
Speaker 7: be a great thing for Congress to take up, like
Speaker 7: call back from some of these people and say, hey,
Speaker 7: remember that money you said you commit to racial justice.
Speaker 7: What happened with that? Because what it became was a
Speaker 7: marketing tool. It became a marketing slogan racial reckoning and
Speaker 7: not actually a policy standpoint or a real commitment by
Speaker 7: the private sector.
Speaker 4: Just since December, by the way, Tiff has done that.
Speaker 4: They're just not in the majority, right, but it's happened.
Speaker 3: I think that's a really good point.
Speaker 7: But I want our viewers to understand just since December
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty three, thirty three percent of jobs that
Speaker 7: were hired to promote racial equity and DEI positions have
Speaker 7: been lost. That's just since December this is in the
Speaker 7: past three months. Moreover, more than twenty states have either
Speaker 7: banned or planned to ban DEI initiatives in their states.
Speaker 7: Why is all this happening because of right wing MAGA extremists.
Speaker 7: And so when we a lot of you guys, a
Speaker 7: lot of our viewers, and thank you for weighing in
Speaker 7: and reaching out with your questions. A lot of our
Speaker 7: viewers have asked us to weigh in on the Future Fund,
Speaker 7: which was a fun dedicated to funding black It was
Speaker 7: a venture capital fund dedicated to funding black owned businesses.
Speaker 7: And so this is something the sad part of all
Speaker 7: of this the gentleman going after this, Ed Bloom. He's
Speaker 7: a right wing extremist who this is the same person
Speaker 7: who went after affirmative action and to his credit, got
Speaker 7: it all the way to the Supreme Court. So he's
Speaker 7: doing exactly what he said he would do. But I
Speaker 7: want people to understand that when black folks win, it
Speaker 7: does not mean that other people lose. Actually everyone wins.
Speaker 7: There was a study that came out in twenty sixteen
Speaker 7: that found that one most venture capitalist funders are white men,
Speaker 7: and so there is less than point one percent of
Speaker 7: people or point three percent rather of people of color
Speaker 7: who are in a position to fund these Because of
Speaker 7: that number, the narrow amount of people who do get
Speaker 7: funding has cost the US to lose out over one
Speaker 7: point one million minority owned businesses and forfeit more than
Speaker 7: nine million job opportunities. Black owned businesses does not mean
Speaker 7: we only employ black people. It contributes to the economy
Speaker 7: and everybody wins. So while you're cutting your nose off
Speaker 7: despite your face, you are literally denying yourself and your
Speaker 7: children opportunity because you cannot stomach equality in this country.
Speaker 7: You don't believe in yourself enough to have a level
Speaker 7: playing field, and that's why your efforts are constantly trying
Speaker 7: to keep us demoted. That our outlook is watch me
Speaker 7: leap frog all over you and still win. A free
Speaker 7: people will never be suppressed for any longer time than
Speaker 7: history would deny us.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, y'all both have dropped some bars on this one,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't I could not agree more. I'm hopeful, y'all,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you have an optimistic outlook
Speaker 1: around what this can actually become if we leaned into
Speaker 1: the moment and health people accountable. But it seems to
Speaker 1: me that for corporate America, this was very much so performative.
Speaker 1: A lot of what was done, even the funds that
Speaker 1: were established, the the symbolic contributions that were given to
Speaker 1: black led organizations, the NAACP, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund,
Speaker 1: and on and on and on and on, Black Lives Matter,
Speaker 1: you name it. If it had black ended it, it
Speaker 1: was getting flow. The problem is is that if you
Speaker 1: went back and check with those organizations right now, I
Speaker 1: bet many of them would be sad, but would truthfully
Speaker 1: report that a lot of those donors have gone away.
Speaker 1: How do you sustain a movement? How do you change
Speaker 1: community in society? If you're a one time giver, a
Speaker 1: performative actor who doesn't show up for the march, the
Speaker 1: putting stamps on envelopes in the office, the call time
Speaker 1: or text time. In order to achieve the games that
Speaker 1: we're trying to still claw back, it takes more than
Speaker 1: just a game, an incident, a march, a petition, a
Speaker 1: visit to Congress or your local city hall. It requires
Speaker 1: more than that. If that's what you give, then don't
Speaker 1: be surprised by what you get. But if you put
Speaker 1: real energy, real effort, real organizing, real concentrated momentum and
Speaker 1: constituency building amongst your family, then your friends and your
Speaker 1: church members or your sit on the couch members or
Speaker 1: whoever you.
Speaker 6: Can do all that their equity should.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is is, unfortunately we live in the
Speaker 1: world that we live in, and when we fail to
Speaker 1: do those things, people tend to contract contract to pull
Speaker 1: back from their commitments, and we want to hold them accountable.
Speaker 1: But listen, y'all, I don't want to leave this politics
Speaker 1: everywhere without going to a special place for you. Tiffany,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. You've got to You've got a love love
Speaker 1: relationship I understand with with All Star weekend, can you
Speaker 1: just enlighten the people on your fascination.
Speaker 7: Oh Andrew, I'm sorry. Before we move on, I just
Speaker 7: want to say I misspoke. I said the Future Fund,
Speaker 7: and it is actually the Fearless Funds. I want to
Speaker 7: shout out fearless Black women who are still out there
Speaker 7: fighting the good fight.
Speaker 1: By the way, led by a rattler.
Speaker 7: Shout out to shout out to FAM you so apologies.
Speaker 7: The Fearless Fund not the Future From but we appreciate
Speaker 7: you being fearless about our future.
Speaker 3: So thank you.
Speaker 1: Hey, well, Tiffany, you can interrupt our commercial breaks anytime
Speaker 1: when you want to talk about a ratler and fearless
Speaker 1: funding for black and minority women, black women led businesses
Speaker 1: to Okay, y'all will be right back after this bill
Speaker 1: paying segment. All right, y'all. So, tiff we have waited
Speaker 1: with bated breath long enough. What's up with this All
Speaker 1: Star weekend?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: On this weekend?
Speaker 7: I just want to say, because you know, these are
Speaker 7: back to back events that happen. We had the Super Bowl,
Speaker 7: which I think has a different a different crowd than
Speaker 7: All Star. I don't know if y'all remember when All
Speaker 7: Star was in Atlanta. I think collective, if he has
Speaker 7: a society, we were like, this is never happening again.
Speaker 3: Like it was, don't even be talking about the season women.
Speaker 7: It was just so much foolishness that happened. I mean,
Speaker 7: the airlines to everything. So this year All Star is
Speaker 7: in Indianapolis, but every season, every All Star season. Because
Speaker 7: as you all are well aware, I'm very sought after
Speaker 7: for my athletic opinions on sports and whatnot. I'm not
Speaker 7: going to weigh in on All Star here, but I
Speaker 7: just say it is one of the check Fine, I
Speaker 7: will just say I have a comment in a question.
Speaker 7: My question is I don't quite understand who is playing
Speaker 7: at all Star like, who are the teams that play?
Speaker 7: So I'm asking that for our audience who might not understand.
Speaker 7: Obviously I know, but you guys weigh in and it's
Speaker 7: just one of the most beautiful experiences because I'm always
Speaker 7: reminded of nineteen eighty three when Marvin Gay saying one
Speaker 7: of the most beautiful renditions of the national anthem.
Speaker 3: I was just a bit I wasn't born yet anyway,
Speaker 3: I was just aweve it.
Speaker 6: But are we gonna get to hear?
Speaker 2: Mary?
Speaker 8: Can we?
Speaker 7: I would like to play one little clip of him
Speaker 7: singing if we can get we got to He took
Speaker 7: his time with it. Let us Nick, Can you can
Speaker 7: you roll that Marvin Gay clip?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 1: Drop it?
Speaker 2: He love it.
Speaker 6: He took his time.
Speaker 3: And so for those who don't know.
Speaker 7: The next best redision I think people would argue is
Speaker 7: Whitney Houston when she's saying at the super Bowl, it
Speaker 7: was just I've never heard another person be able to
Speaker 7: command that song the way she did. She actually said
Speaker 7: Marvin Gaye version of singing the national anthems her inspiration
Speaker 7: because he really took his time with it. But you
Speaker 7: look at that scene with his aviator glasses on, and
Speaker 7: that's smooth as he looks. It's just a beautiful moment
Speaker 7: in this Black History Month that I just wanted us
Speaker 7: to shout out. Now, Angela or Andrew, who want to
Speaker 7: tell me tell our audience about who who's playing in
Speaker 7: this game?
Speaker 6: Yes, so I really want.
Speaker 4: I want to just say first that I almost forgot
Speaker 4: it was the national anthem, which I hate so much
Speaker 4: that Marvin Gaye was singing that I just want to
Speaker 4: be honest about it.
Speaker 6: I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Then check out that second and third Stanza if you
Speaker 4: confused about why anyway, So, the All Star weekend Tiff
Speaker 4: includes several activities. There is the dunk Contest, there's a
Speaker 4: three point contest, and they are not teams in the
Speaker 4: traditional sense of the NBA who are playing. It's the
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference versus the Western Conference teams that play against
Speaker 4: each other, and folks, because this is politics everywhere, it's
Speaker 4: a great time to remind folks that people actual vote
Speaker 4: on who they want to play those teams for our audience.
Speaker 4: Of course, what people you if I know you voted,
Speaker 4: of course you're going to suppress your own vote.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna vote.
Speaker 4: And then they have to be currently in the NBA
Speaker 4: to play. Yes, you cannot be retired. You can't be
Speaker 4: an aspiring basketball player. Spudweb also known as Tiffany Cross
Speaker 4: or Muggy Vogues also known as Tiffany Cross.
Speaker 6: You cannot play.
Speaker 4: But I do want to shout out booth thing because
Speaker 4: Jaleny will be coaching the Rising Stars in the Rising
Speaker 4: Stars Tournament. There are four teams that are selected to
Speaker 4: play in the Rising Stars Tournament, and he's also getting
Speaker 4: the Boblaneer Community Assist Award at the NBA Legends Brunch
Speaker 4: on Sunday.
Speaker 6: So shout out to j Yesler.
Speaker 7: How do I if he needs like an assistant coach
Speaker 7: or somebody on the sideline, like, how do I do? I?
Speaker 2: Just?
Speaker 3: Should I text him? Or should I?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: How can I offer my services to support you?
Speaker 6: You know what he told me to ask you this too?
Speaker 6: Can you drop a play really quick that you have run?
Speaker 3: I'll DM, I'll damn it, Sammy.
Speaker 7: Can you show it to me on your Yeah, I
Speaker 7: need to think it through and I'll get it to.
Speaker 3: You after the show. Yeah, do that, Jalen, it's coming
Speaker 3: your way.
Speaker 7: Congratulations Jalen on the award, the honor coaching. I will
Speaker 7: be tuned in.
Speaker 6: Can we see that?
Speaker 3: Are gonna show that part? Angela?
Speaker 4: No, but you know what, I'll try to FaceTime you
Speaker 4: with thank you, thank you. I don't think they I
Speaker 4: don't know why they don't show that, but I'll make sure.
Speaker 4: Shout out to j R. L. A part of the
Speaker 4: reason why he's getting this award is Jalen founded the
Speaker 4: school Jalen Rose Leadership Academy.
Speaker 6: Enter a learner and exit a leader. That's not even
Speaker 6: to the kids. Shout out to Detroit. What up though?
Speaker 1: What congratulations? We're wishing you well. Uh, Tiffany, are you
Speaker 1: gonna make it?
Speaker 7: I'm not going to all start because I don't want
Speaker 7: everybody talking to me every five minutes asking my opinion
Speaker 7: on the game and who I thought they should have
Speaker 7: voted for it to play, because I get tired.
Speaker 3: Of getting my opinion on sports. So no, I'm not
Speaker 3: going Angela.
Speaker 7: While you're in Indianapolis, let us know if there's any
Speaker 7: like political things happening there the we should pay attention to.
Speaker 7: If there's any like valid initiatives and tell the people,
Speaker 7: everybody who talks to it All Star please tell them
Speaker 7: submit your questions the Native Lamb Pod because we want
Speaker 7: to get questions from the people. So you'll be our
Speaker 7: Native Land ambassador on the ground at All Star. If
Speaker 7: you see Angela at All Star, stopper and say I
Speaker 7: got a question, and she'll videotape it.
Speaker 3: We'll use it on the podcast.
Speaker 4: And now I went from being the ambassador to being
Speaker 4: the digital media.
Speaker 6: Yes, got it. I'm happy to do that.
Speaker 4: But you know what, speaking of the Midwest, Andrew, there
Speaker 4: are some things happening in the Midwest that we should
Speaker 4: be being closest to. As you know, the Republicans all
Speaker 4: over the country are like hell bent because they're so
Speaker 4: pro life. They got another thing happen. And what's going
Speaker 4: on in Missouri, Andrew give.
Speaker 1: Well, this is why we have to pay attention. I
Speaker 1: appreciate to if you deputizing Angela, you know, to basically
Speaker 1: be the correspondent on the ground. But in truth, this
Speaker 1: is where the rubber meets the road, y'all. At the
Speaker 1: state and the local we can talk about you know
Speaker 1: the purpose. Well, you know, a red man and age
Speaker 1: and all that stuff all we want to, but when
Speaker 1: it comes to your quality of life, I bet you
Speaker 1: are watching that school board. I bet you're paying attention.
Speaker 3: To But these commonencies are like a huge deal.
Speaker 1: And I you know this at the state level, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of times these things slip in and
Speaker 1: go past before we ever notice them. And the next
Speaker 1: thing we know, we sit in a doctor's office and
Speaker 1: they talking to us about, you know, letting this senator
Speaker 1: come sit in on my debrias because essentially what this
Speaker 1: is let me tell you.
Speaker 4: So, Senator Mary Elizabeth Coleman, who is a Republican in
Speaker 4: the Missouri state Legislature, introduced a bill that would prohibit
Speaker 4: planned parenthood from getting state funds.
Speaker 6: You know that this has been an age old thing
Speaker 6: they do over and over again, the Democrats.
Speaker 4: And this is where I think it's so important because
Speaker 4: there are well meaning elected officials. It's why you need
Speaker 4: to pay attention and vote in your state and local races.
Speaker 4: There's some Democrats that were like, not on my watch,
Speaker 4: and they pushed back and they said, fine, if you're
Speaker 4: gonna have a vote on this bill, we're gonna have
Speaker 4: you do some roll call votes on some things. I
Speaker 4: think before we get into any more about this bill
Speaker 4: and this rape and incest exception, we should roll sound.
Speaker 1: Well, you took away the right, Yes, you did.
Speaker 12: You took away the rights of rape victims to have
Speaker 12: a choice, to be able to decide.
Speaker 1: All those other items.
Speaker 12: That were mentioned here, a lot of those were women
Speaker 12: that decided to have that. We're not saying that we're
Speaker 12: forcing an abortion.
Speaker 1: We're saying, give them the choice.
Speaker 12: If you should have a twelve year old just on
Speaker 12: health reasons alone, should have that choice if and But
Speaker 12: you're okay with that center of forced a birth of
Speaker 12: a rape twelve year old, I'm not okay with.
Speaker 1: Suriy that you voted for. It's the law of Missouriy
Speaker 1: you voted for. I did first thing. I appreciated the argument.
Speaker 1: But we're the women they got women. No, they're not
Speaker 1: your sponsor. I'm just saying it's always interesting to me
Speaker 1: when you see on these abortion bills, and it happens
Speaker 1: in my state of Florida all the time. You spend
Speaker 1: a moment watching the legislature and it's men intensely going
Speaker 1: in on the debate floor over a woman's right to
Speaker 1: her own reproductive decision making.
Speaker 4: There's a woman that actually called for the roll call
Speaker 4: vote on the rate and incest exception. Again, shout out
Speaker 4: to the folks who are holding it down. You know,
Speaker 4: when you're trying to protect the lives of people, the
Speaker 4: you know, the livelihood of these young folks. He mentioned
Speaker 4: a twelve year old, and they can't find it in
Speaker 4: their hearts to say, you know what, this is a
Speaker 4: total band would go too far. This is about planned
Speaker 4: parenthood and planned parenthood build Planted parenthood does so much
Speaker 4: more than abortion. But to feed their messaging, you know,
Speaker 4: framework they will defund planned parenthood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 7: Well, I want to just quickly pick up your point Andrew,
Speaker 7: that women make up half of society. We do not
Speaker 7: make up half of the elected representatives, and I think
Speaker 7: that is showing in policies like this. This is why
Speaker 7: I think this is so important because I'll say it
Speaker 7: every week.
Speaker 3: The state and.
Speaker 7: Local level is where policies are created and they bubble
Speaker 7: up to the federal level. And this is a great
Speaker 7: example of this. Sixty four thousand pregnancies have happened from
Speaker 7: rape in the United States. That has been since Roe v.
Speaker 7: Wade was overturned by the Supreme Court. When you think
Speaker 7: about where black folks live, more than sixty percent of
Speaker 7: those who seek an abortion are people of color. And
Speaker 7: when you think about where black folks reside, a majority
Speaker 7: of us live in Southern States. That is that Bible
Speaker 7: Belt quote unquote, where a lot of abortion bands have
Speaker 7: been enacted. So this is something that disproportionately impacts us
Speaker 7: and that we have to think about. I never address
Speaker 7: these people or call them pro life. They perhaps may
Speaker 7: be pro fetus, they are not pro life. You cannot
Speaker 7: be pro life and pro guns. You cannot be pro life,
Speaker 7: and in my opinion, pro Trump. You cannot be pro
Speaker 7: life and support what's happening at the southern border with
Speaker 7: a razor wire, where my desperate my are swinging with
Speaker 7: their children and you are okay with them drowning. Nothing
Speaker 7: about that says pro life to me. This abortion band
Speaker 7: has always been about control, and it's sad. But it's
Speaker 7: really sad that there are so many women, who are
Speaker 7: particularly white women, to be honest, who vote in favor
Speaker 7: of these oppressive, draconian policies that have a direct, sad
Speaker 7: impact on the majority of black women. And I just
Speaker 7: I can't. I don't know what's going to happen. But
Speaker 7: you think about folks in Mississippi who lack access to
Speaker 7: this kind of care. When you look at some of
Speaker 7: these states, that's an actingness. Look at some of their
Speaker 7: education levels, Look at how well they take care of
Speaker 7: their children.
Speaker 3: Not very well. So you don't care.
Speaker 7: About children, but you care about fetuses, you are a hypocrite.
Speaker 1: There it is, and this is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why it's really important that we lean into our local
Speaker 1: and state politicians that question. The point that Tiffany and
Speaker 1: Angela made about the states and locals being the laboratories,
Speaker 1: it really visualized when you think about lab rats, the
Speaker 1: people who we experiment with to see who lives, who
Speaker 1: gets cured. Many of the policies that are of course
Speaker 1: attacking women, but up and down across the spectrum of issues.
Speaker 1: Many of those policies see the first light of day
Speaker 1: at a local or a state rule making or lawmaking
Speaker 1: set of hearings and practices, and then are obviously inculcated
Speaker 1: into the law. And unfortunately, before we look up and
Speaker 1: we know what's going on, you're down at your mayor's
Speaker 1: office asking for a social Security check when that's not
Speaker 1: our jurisdiction. But you failed to come and talk to
Speaker 1: me when we were Banschood by the NRA about guns
Speaker 1: and city parks where our kids play in our family's picnic.
Speaker 1: These are the kinds of issues that are getting adopted
Speaker 1: at these levels. And so for our Native Native land podcasts,
Speaker 1: you know, listeners, we got to activate and in places
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't wait for the invitation to run. You
Speaker 1: decide that you gonna pull up a seat to the
Speaker 1: table yourself, and you'll get out there and you'll challenge
Speaker 1: to people who are standing in the way of your livelihood,
Speaker 1: your family safety and security, and your ability to prosper
Speaker 1: as a community. Y'all. We're gonna wrap this session by
Speaker 1: hearing from another listener around some of the questions they
Speaker 1: have around how it is they can organize better where
Speaker 1: they live.
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, my name is Matt Davis. I'm from Des Moines, Iowa.
Speaker 13: And so the question I had for you guys is
Speaker 13: a lot of times, like I know, when they've interviewed
Speaker 13: Charlemagne the God, I've even seen other interviews even with
Speaker 13: Angela and others, where they said the Democrats are losing
Speaker 13: the black voter, and so I was really curious, Like
Speaker 13: you know, some some have said that it's like because
Speaker 13: during Trump's presidency he was cutting checks. Others just say
Speaker 13: it's policies that they're not seeing that are impacting their
Speaker 13: daily lives. So my question is, if you were to
Speaker 13: choose three things that were attainable, what three things would
Speaker 13: you choose that that could be done and implemented that
Speaker 13: would bring more black voters back to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: And what do you think vose would be.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick this, kick this over to you, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: but did want to say that this couple of.
Speaker 4: He called my name, So I just want to defend myself,
Speaker 4: by the way, but go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 1: No, you can get it done, Frank Goo.
Speaker 4: So just quickly, I want to be clear about the
Speaker 4: fact that I have never been on any show at
Speaker 4: any time saying that black people are leaving the Democratic
Speaker 4: Party for the Republican Party.
Speaker 6: That has never happened.
Speaker 4: I do worry about the number of black men in particular.
Speaker 4: I still think that is a small number that have
Speaker 4: at least entertained the idea of voting for Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: There is nothing wrong with black people.
Speaker 4: Requiring that a party that they've been so loyal to
Speaker 4: has an agenda that also serves them. To that point,
Speaker 4: he asked for three things. I'll give you three things, reparations,
Speaker 4: police reform, and an equitable agenda that includes stronger reforms
Speaker 4: in affirmative action spaces.
Speaker 7: I just want to say that Alicia Garza, as Angela
Speaker 7: often points out, has a wonderful black agenda, So I
Speaker 7: would direct anyone there. But I want to thank this
Speaker 7: viewer first of all for wigan and sending in your
Speaker 7: viewer question and even name checking Angela, so we you know,
Speaker 7: even if it may not have been the most accurate,
Speaker 7: but we super appreciate your question and thank you for that.
Speaker 7: I do kind of take issue with the premise of
Speaker 7: the question. There are not droves of black voters leaving
Speaker 7: the Democratic Party for whatever reason. That is a talking
Speaker 7: point every election cycle. What I would love for the
Speaker 7: media talk about is what white folks are doing. I've
Speaker 7: said this plenty of times. What are conservative white not
Speaker 7: even just conservative, but talk about the conservative white folks.
Speaker 7: The number of people to seventy five million plus people
Speaker 7: who are still willing to vote for Donald Trump despite
Speaker 7: this long list of things I can name talk to,
Speaker 7: there's a fracture within the Latino community, among Latino men
Speaker 7: who are venturing over to the Republican Party because of
Speaker 7: conservative policies. In much larger numbers than black people. Black
Speaker 7: people have upheld the Demoocratic Party at disproportionate rates other
Speaker 7: than any other community of color. So I kind of
Speaker 7: take an issue with this. When we try to suggest
Speaker 7: the failure of this democracy, or if there's a slight
Speaker 7: decrease in voter turnout, the first thing people want to
Speaker 7: do is say, black folks, black folks, black.
Speaker 3: Folks, I am not for it.
Speaker 7: I I will always constantly kick it back to the
Speaker 7: white folks are still at the largest voting block in
Speaker 7: this country.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 6: And his name is Matt Davis.
Speaker 3: Thank you Matt Davis for sending us.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for the question. And of course
Speaker 1: it's an invitation to invite all of you to submit
Speaker 1: your questions, your or your comments. You could take issue
Speaker 1: with something that we said. You can disagree or you
Speaker 1: can agree, and we'll do our very best to make
Speaker 1: sure that we put it up here. If there's a
Speaker 1: learning tu double moment for folks. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: quickly say to Matt, I appreciate obviously the comments of
Speaker 1: my colleagues and also your question, and just say, I
Speaker 1: think if we put as much attention into meeting the
Speaker 1: needs of this core constituency as we put into turning
Speaker 1: this constituency out during an election, I think it would
Speaker 1: start to feel more like a respectful democratic relationship where
Speaker 1: my needs are being met, but your needs are being
Speaker 1: met also, and so you don't have to come up
Speaker 1: with a crazy ad by to convince me of all
Speaker 1: the things that are so great that you're doing, because
Speaker 1: I would have experienced it, I would have championed it.
Speaker 1: I would have been invited into the conversation because I
Speaker 1: was treated like a I don't know, important voter. Are y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all one more segment with us, come right back after
Speaker 1: this commercial break. It's worth it. Okay, y'all, we're back,
Speaker 1: and the teaser was real. It is worth you sticking
Speaker 1: around for and you'll see why in a few moments.
Speaker 1: TIF Angela, what are your calls to action? I guess
Speaker 1: I should have say, Andrew, what are your calls to actions?
Speaker 1: Y'all want me to go first? Y yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: want me last?
Speaker 2: Y'all?
Speaker 1: One thing, go and take your child, your nephew. You
Speaker 1: ain't got your niece, you ain't got none of them.
Speaker 1: Maybe your neighbor or your elderly neighbor's grandchildren, y'all take
Speaker 1: them outside to play. I'm so sick of my kids
Speaker 1: being addicted to these darn devices. I have to force
Speaker 1: them outside. There was a time when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get me indoors because we were outside playing
Speaker 1: so much. I know it's a little bit of throwback,
Speaker 1: maybe old fashion, but adults, lestenie in and teach these
Speaker 1: these these young kids what it means to go out
Speaker 1: and be inventive, creative, create games when you ain't got
Speaker 1: no supplies except a rock to carve into the street, babement.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, think about side, y'all. What you got, Tiff,
Speaker 1: I like that first.
Speaker 7: I want to punctuate that. You know, I'm big on
Speaker 7: stay off your devices.
Speaker 3: I promise.
Speaker 7: I cannot when I'm with somebody and they're like this
Speaker 7: the whole time talking to me. I don't want to
Speaker 7: talk to though. Our time becomes a lot more limited.
Speaker 7: My call to action is a bit different, Mike.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 3: That is true. My call to action is to read something.
Speaker 7: I think reading informs so much of our worldview and
Speaker 7: how we understand each other and different cultures and ethnicity
Speaker 7: and history and so I you know, I'm big on
Speaker 7: reading papers. I think papers are so hugely important. And
Speaker 7: some people say I don't want to hear bad news,
Speaker 7: and it's like, guys, if you don't read a paper,
Speaker 7: you clearly don't understand that it's not just bad news.
Speaker 7: There are so many things happening that there are think pieces,
Speaker 7: there are you know, people who bear witness to extraordinary
Speaker 7: events across the globe. If you don't want to read
Speaker 7: the paper, if you do want to break, then read
Speaker 7: a book. I have so many amazing, wonderful books. Maybe
Speaker 7: one day I'll put out a reading list of suggested
Speaker 7: readings from me. But there are so many amazing books.
Speaker 7: So my advice is at least this this week, if
Speaker 7: you can try to take at least one hour across
Speaker 7: the week to read something. And we have a lot
Speaker 7: of friends of books, So joy read.
Speaker 3: Got a book. We told you all about that.
Speaker 7: I have a book, say it Louder, Andrew has one
Speaker 7: in his head, and there are a lot of books
Speaker 7: of pending books coming.
Speaker 3: So plenty plenty out there to read.
Speaker 1: I love that, I love you staying true to your
Speaker 1: journalism streak. Go read Angela.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 4: So for my call to action, I'm going to throw
Speaker 4: to a listener question and respond on the other side.
Speaker 2: Piece to the Natives.
Speaker 14: This is Daniel close caption will call Daniel Mawrence. I
Speaker 14: just want to thank you so much for playing a
Speaker 14: record that I wrote for y'all. It genuinely was from
Speaker 14: the heart. I'm so supportive of all of you.
Speaker 15: Lincoln up Welcome Home with the Natives landing on the
Speaker 15: podcast Pace sixty for Briefs so hits.
Speaker 14: But I had a question and I wanted to see
Speaker 14: if there was any thoughts or conversations about you all
Speaker 14: doing random pop ups and doing live broadcasts live podcasts,
Speaker 14: because one, it would allow you to engage in a
Speaker 14: more personal, intimate way with the Natives and then also
Speaker 14: hopefully energize and galvanize people to go out and vote,
Speaker 14: because as we're all hearing and I think seeing people
Speaker 14: are just not excited about choices, and I'm just afraid
Speaker 14: people are going to be, you know, choosing a couch instead.
Speaker 14: So I wanted to just kind of throw that out there,
Speaker 14: and if you do do that, I'm gonna pull up
Speaker 14: and introduce y'all cross the t's dot the odds, gilling
Speaker 14: back to get them staying all business, will ride out bed.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Daniel again. I so enjoyed the song.
Speaker 4: It was a moment of levity in our podcast, and
Speaker 4: we're really really appreciative that we even have fans that
Speaker 4: would support in that way. I will say we have
Speaker 4: already started a little bit with this mini pod concept.
Speaker 4: As you all know, Part three of Andrew's testimony came
Speaker 4: out last Monday, and we're gonna start a mini pod concept.
Speaker 4: The next pod up will be one that explains the
Speaker 4: Native Land pod concept. When we say welcome home, we're
Speaker 4: talking about this virtual safe space that we created.
Speaker 6: When we say native Land, we're talking about being true
Speaker 6: to our God, true to our.
Speaker 4: Native land that is absolutely the continent, but also embracing
Speaker 4: some of the very important and significant work that we've
Speaker 4: done here. We celebrate Black History Month all year around
Speaker 4: around these parts. And then finally, I would say, around
Speaker 4: these pop ups and lives we are talking about it.
Speaker 4: We know that this campaign season is kind of a drab,
Speaker 4: it's not really fun we're not seeing a real primary
Speaker 4: as it were. The Republicans hardly have a contest, even
Speaker 4: though we had a hell of a lot of people
Speaker 4: in there. And on the Democratic side, there's not really
Speaker 4: a primary when you have a sitting president in office.
Speaker 4: That's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1: And so why not have a.
Speaker 6: Native Lamppod campaign trail.
Speaker 4: That is what we're talking about. So we want you
Speaker 4: to do on the other side of this. We know
Speaker 4: what Daniel's position is on this, but y'all, this is
Speaker 4: where we want you to weigh in. Make sure that
Speaker 4: you're following us on social media on all platforms at
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Speaker 4: let us know your capacity to host us.
Speaker 6: And we're happy, happy, Yes.
Speaker 3: We happy, because happy. That's when you extra happy, you happy,
Speaker 3: happy to pull up.
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what we want to do.
Speaker 4: We want to welcome you home, even where you live,
Speaker 4: and we want to be on the campaign trail as
Speaker 4: we get closer to general.
Speaker 7: Very I love that can I just pay I would
Speaker 7: love to do HBCUs Angela like talk to some of
Speaker 7: the younger folks.
Speaker 3: I love that idea. Some of the debates maybe.
Speaker 7: So maybe people can drop in the comments where you
Speaker 7: want us to go. Please let us yeah yeah, if
Speaker 7: y'all want to see us, let us know.
Speaker 3: We happy to pull up.
Speaker 12: That is.
Speaker 15: Cross the teens to doctor I steal them back to
Speaker 15: get them standing on business. Will Ry You could have
Speaker 15: been anywhere to put us Native Lay Podcast, So bring
Speaker 15: into the trust.
Speaker 2: Yes.
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