WEBVTT - Buck Showalter’s Trade Deadline reax, JJ Cooper on prospect returns 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.800 And i'd show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.879 Data dish is presented by Rapsodo. Here is JJ Cooper 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.280 from Baseball America. Let's start with the freshest trade here, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.360 Jefferson Rojas. JJ tell us what the Mets are getting 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.880 back in this deal for Clay Holmes and Tyron Taylor. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.240 Very back of the top hundred prospected guy who's kind 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.639 of been hovering in that on the top hundred, just 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.280 off the top hundred range for a while. Now, this 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.520 is what the Cubs are doing here to talk for 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.760 their side is they are trading guys who have real 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.280 value but also probably do not fit for the Cubs. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.760 We saw that you mentioned Basilsterras I a would say 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.400 the same thing. Kind of Jefferson Rojas. They had Jefferson Rojas, 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.840 they have paid Road Ramirez. They're kind of two guys 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.120 to be who are very similar, I would say as 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.320 far as how they would fit on the big league club. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.560 For the Cubs. Okay, so you trade one of them. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:54.480 Rojas has real value. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.480 I think when you say were of the Mes getting film, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.320 that's a guy who you know is a legitimate middle dfielder. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:00:59.960 I don't know. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:01.760 I think he's kind of on that fringe of is 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.200 he going to be an everyday shortstop? I'm I'm not 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.640 so sure about that. But is he going to play second? 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.520 Can he play some short maybe some third? Have real 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.280 value with the bat? Like he's again, he's a solid prospect, 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:14.720 He's a solid acquisition. But you go down the rest 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.920 of these Cubs moves, Jonathan Long wasn't going to play 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.200 for them. I think that with Liam Hicks being traded, 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.959 he might just go straight into the Marlins lineup as 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.399 their first base. And we mentioned Ballis Scaris. There's a 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.119 number of these guys who I think have real value 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.679 in trade. We've seen that today. But at the same time, 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.280 they're not guys that the Cubs necessarily should rue giving 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.240 up because they often in many cases have better players 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.720 than them on their big leag roster. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.920 Right now, j J, let's talk about USA Baseball here 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.600 for a second. Oh wait, yeah, just kidding. I just 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.319 wanted to see Scott's reaction. He's telling me, you have 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.800 to stay on task here, and I'm so good at 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.400 staying on task. Do they come so many players left 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.760 because they made the trade for GOLs. When they made 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.000 the trade for Zephyr John. They're making all these moves. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.320 Do they have any prospects left? Because I only thought teams, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.360 you know, all team have thirty prospects. I feel like 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:02.600 they've traded all thirty away. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.440 The funny thing about it is, I don't think, okay, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.280 grow we had row houses. They are number two, But 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.320 the most important guy they have is Josiah Hartshorn and 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:10.000 they've kept him. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:10.560 That's the guy. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.920 That's the one guy I would say you don't trade right. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.320 This is the guy who's a potentially premium you know bat. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.000 This is a corner outfielder, but one who really can't 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.400 swing it. Had a breakthrough season this year. That's the 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.359 guy you don't want to give up. I've Katan Kepley's 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.519 a center fielder. I wouldn't be shocked even to see 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.120 if is Owen Air is going to get to go 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.320 get traded. We talked about Ballistaiirs. Ballistairs isn't a catcher realistically. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.680 Owen AIIRs is a catcher and has had really a 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.000 breakthrough season. That's the guy who partly also though with 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.760 them trading Ballisterio's, I would say that owen Aires has 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.120 a better path to being a big league catcher for 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.600 the Cubs than Ballistaios did. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.720 All right, what about the Cardinals return for the trade 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:51.280 that they made? 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.240 Okay, that's the trade. If you asked me a team 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.400 that's selling and I just love the return, that's the return, right, 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.080 Dustin made Jojo Rovera not saying they're not good, but 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.600 Alexander Friez is the guy we talked about. Rojas has 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.040 been on the kind of very edge of our top hundred. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.320 Fries was on our hundred when we updated in July. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.720 Guy who had a great year in the DSL last year, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.639 I had a monster year in the Complex and then 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.239 just got promoted to low A. This is an eighteen 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.560 year old with I would describe it as kind of 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.600 like Junior Camonaro level power. Now, a lot of guys 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.640 at eighteen who have Junior Camonaro level power don't end 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.200 up being Junior Camenero. But he has that kind of 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.240 could hit thirty for thirty five homer power, you know, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.360 potential if everything comes together. Long boys away, far away, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.520 but you take a flyer on that and a move 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.880 like this, and then Josiah Ragsdale they also got, I think, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.160 is a guy who if he was in another system, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.400 we'd be talking about him all years, like, wow, is 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.760 this one of the top five, top six, top seven 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.000 prospects in a system. It's the Brewers. So it's like, hey, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.960 he's a Brewers prospects having a great year. And he said, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.480 what do you mean Andrew Fischer who leeds the miners 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.040 and home runs? 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:54.160 No? 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.480 Do you mean Blake Burke who's gonna have a thirty 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.119 thirty season as a first baseman. No, I mean Ragsdale 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.000 who's had a twenty double. He has nineteen hovers up 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.640 twenty soon thirty steel season, And there's real power there. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.080 He's made massive power games this year. When I watch 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.840 him hit, the thing that just stands out is is 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.080 he hits fly balls that you think are going to 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.240 be about, you know, ten feet from the you know, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.960 from the warning track, and the outfitters keeps drifting back 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.680 and drifting back, and then he realizes that the wall 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.280 and looks up and goes, oh, it's a homer. And 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.680 he did that ten home runs in July. You could 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.600 say that the Brewers may be selling a little bit high, 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.760 but I do think there's real potential that this guy 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.640 could continue to do this. Going forward and center fielder too, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.400 probably a corner in the feat in the future, but 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.880 could play center in a pinch and can run as well. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.400 Apparently the Tigers didn't think these guys are very good 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.400 because you know, school ball instead of Dustin Man Jojo Romeira. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:41.280 I don't know, j J. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.840 Seems seems strange to me that, you know, if these 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.280 guys are so good that apparently the Tigers hated him, 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.360 so that's why they went with dust and man Jojo Romeiro. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.440 No knock, no knock on those guys. But you know, 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.760 Terrek Schouogl, I'm just just just just just spitball in 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:55.000 the here. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.039 That is it, Logan Henderson, is that they didn't like Again, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.080 that's the question is It's like if you said how 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.039 it would be a difficult fit. And again I don't 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.360 have reporting on this, I don't want make clear, but 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.640 if the Tigers were like, we need a pitcher who 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.440 we feel like will be in our rotation all next 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.240 year and really, you know, being potentially impactful, that's where 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:16.880 the Brewers might have had a little bit more trouble 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.200 because again I don't think you know, if you don't 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.200 want to trade Logan Henderson, then that becomes a little 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.400 bit tougher to you want to find a fit. But yeah, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.520 I do agree that the Brewers obviously have enough prospect 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.600 potential that they should be a way to make a deal. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.800 I mean, River Ryan has a pitch in two years, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.240 but never mind, jj You know, there's no counting on 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:34.600 him being in the rotation next year. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.640 But Logan Henderson is going to be Logan. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.520 He is going to keep you from getting Trek's scuba. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.400 I'm sorry, sorry. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:41.920 It's gonna be twenty eighty nine and we're gonna be like, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.520 you know, the Brewers could have won the World Series 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.640 in twenty twenty six, but Logan Henderson. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.679 Sorry, don't offense the Logan Henderson just loco. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.960 I believe in you. But that prevents Trek Scoogle. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.599 Yeah true, But anyways, jj W other prospects. The apparently 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.040 the return that the Orioles got for Adley is the 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.480 greatest return in the last thirty years, according to some executive. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.880 Is this true that it's the greatest return ever in 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:09.880 the last thirty years? 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.600 One Sota was traded, right, I don't know. 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.040 I'm just saying that's what like if you said one 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.880 Soto was traded for CJ. Abrams, James Wood, McKenzie Gore, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.120 and Harlan Susannah and Robert Haslo didn't turn out. I 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.279 struggle to come up with a prospect return better than that. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.799 That is a guy who could win the MVP. Another 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.160 guy who is the all star starting r star shortstop 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.200 I believe for the National League this year. Another guy 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.039 who is a mid rotation starter who was then turned 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.000 around this year and traded in another big deal. And 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.000 a guy who's still the miners but throws one hundred 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.279 and two and could end up being a very impactful 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:45.800 Big leaguer. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.360 Okay, so you disagree, I would say, again it's a 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.520 good return, but it's hard to beat that. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.919 I mean that that return is and yes, at the 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.159 Asacar better be an absolute stud down. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.520 The road for the beat to beat that return. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.680 Okay, that's fair. So all right, So do you think 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.680 what they gave up here? I mean, do you think 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.719 what the red Soux gave up is that a lot 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:08.720 for Adli Rushman? 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.640 It's a lot unless Adelie Rushman comes back healthy quickly. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.600 Like again, this is one of those things I am 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.360 one who says, like I know, I cover prospects, and 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.160 that's what I do. But I absolutely get not being 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.320 a prospect hugger at this time of year, right because 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.000 if you run the numbers on this, and I try 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.680 to do that, when you say, like, okay, even they 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.680 got you know, they got as we see it, they 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.840 got a top fifty prospect in Anianssen, in uh Anthony Einsen, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.560 they got a back of the top hundred right on 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.440 that frames Alexander Fries and him no different. I mean 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.200 that like ones, you know, ninety seven ones, one oh one, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.920 same thing basically. And I would say that Indy Aslakar, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.480 we're kind of trending towards that he was getting closer 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.960 and closer to Kyson Witherspoon. How we would line those 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.440 guys up as well. But if you said you're getting 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.600 a thirty five to you know, thirty to fifty prospect 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.720 and two fringes of the top hundred prospects, if one 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.680 of those guys ends up being a ten more player, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.400 you know, for his career, that would be a great return. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.880 Two would be an outstanding return. Prospects when these trades 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.640 like there, if you get a solid regular and you 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.080 get someone else who's a useful role player, even in 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.800 a deal like this, that's generally kind of the return 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:22.239 you get. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.000 Today's episode is sponsored by the ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:27.360 Kratz. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.520 We love our pups, we. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.600 Do, and I can't put Bella in a bubble. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:32.920 So you know what I'll do. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.160 I'll do the next best thing for. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:35.959 Her, That's right. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.560 The ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program offers customizable accident and 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.000 illness plans that can fit your budget, your lifestyle, and 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.760 even your pets particular quirks. 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So it's not like you're sitting 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.720 here going, oh, now, we're losing all our prospects. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.040 Right, So I tried to run some numbers on this. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.120 Basically I'm trying to find them right now, so I 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.320 don't misquote them. But basically what you kind of find 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.920 this is so the thing that's important kind of on 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.920 all of this is is that over and over when 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.720 you talk about these kind of deals, one of the 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.080 things that happens is is that there is such a 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.280 difference between that top The reason we're not seeing the 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.080 Jesus Madaes the you know, the hoseway Topaula is traded. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.439 The success rate. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.240 Really does kind of steadily decline even as you go 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.720 down the top hundred. Right if you're talking about top 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.400 ten prospect in baseball, you're talking about top three prospect 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.000 in baseball. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.240 My expectation is that guy is. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:35.480 Going to be a long time, successful regular and all star, right, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.200 And it doesn't always work out that way. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:38.640 But a lot of the time. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.280 Does you get to top ten and you're talking about 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.560 still a really good chance to see that and a 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.520 really good chance to get a regular. By the time 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.400 you get about fifty on the list, now you're talking 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.520 to like it's a coin flip toss, you know, chance. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.200 And then by the time you get to like one 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.880 hundred on the list, now you're talking you got more 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.719 like a twenty five to thirty percent chance of a 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.160 long term regular, still a good chance. You still want 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.520 those kind of guys. Those kind of guys can absolutely 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.280 change the direction of your organization. But at the same time, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.160 it's not something where if you see again, I think 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.520 we are up to now, last I checked five top 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.800 hundred prospects trade at the deadline, which by the way, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.920 makes it basically one of the busiest deadlines. Already with 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.160 an hour to go, you know, well almost an hour 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.080 to go, an hour plus until we'll find out of 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.480 all the deals it's one of the busiest deadlines ever. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.560 But five top hundred prospects means if we get two 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.600 or three of those who end up being slng term studs, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:29.560 that's a good return. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.720 All right about the Angels, you had them on there, 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.720 number one, number one returned player in a trade the 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:38.760 Angels got. 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.640 So they get their shortstop of the future, which, again 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.559 you can ask, does that mean that Zach detO is 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.560 is he Are they gonna have two short stops of 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.280 the short term future or are they gonna have one? 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.320 We'll see, But I will say that the thing that 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.000 stands out to me about this is and if I'm 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.640 an Angels fan, I'm not, but if I was, I 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.480 would be very excited about today because all I just 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.720 said about prospect hugging and all the opposite that the 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.480 worst thing you can do is year after year be like, Nope, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:05.600 we're not traded prospects. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.600 We're in it. It's like we won seventy three games. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.079 Next year, we're in it. We won seventy four games. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.920 And they've done this. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.560 They have not had a winning record in the past decade. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.080 They everyone knows, we all you know, we were seeing 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.320 scouts for the Angels who were going out scouting for 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.280 the return for Shoeo Tani at the deadline, the owner said, nope, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.960 flip it, We're going the other way around. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:28.600 They didn't do that this year. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.240 This year they are actually trading valuable pieces, but for 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.280 they've realized they're not were anywhere near to being where 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.040 they need to be. Argent Namala, it's the big return 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.920 in that trade. That's the Blue Jay's number one prospect, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.160 a shortstop who's kind of had up and down kind 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.640 of development paths so far. There are times where he 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.960 looks lost at the plate. There are times he looks 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.280 locked in, but then you have to remember he's kind 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:52.920 of in one of the youngest guys at every level 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:53.680 he's played at. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.160 He's still only twenty years old. It's in Double A. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.600 There's real power here, there's the real you know, shortstop 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.320 glove of Eventually he may out grow up in the 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.640 short dum. I think he could be an above average 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.200 shortstop defensively at the big league level, and he's making 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.880 much more contact strikeouts are concerned. In the past twenty 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.800 two percent strikeout rate. This year, he's showing the kind 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.240 of steps forward you want to see and yeah, Like 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.040 if you look at for the Angels and you say, okay, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.959 they've added him. We talked about boys as Palisteros, We've 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.840 talked about they're adding players who The one other thing 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.319 I would say about the Angels is the thing that's 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.240 tripped at the Angels year after year after year has 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.000 been yes they have Mike Trout, Yes they had Choey O'tani, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.960 but every year they're always like one il trip away 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.120 from looking around and going, we don't have a second baseman, 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.080 we don't have a third basement, we don't have a 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.240 short stop, we don't have a number four starter or 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.920 whatever it is. And they've often had to hand those 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.480 two players, you know, basically waiver claims at all, and 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.319 they've lost so many games because they really haven't had 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.000 kind of the next up. Nacho Alvarez, who they added 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.319 from the Braves in the trade today, I think not 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.760 Avaaz is a great He's not even a prospect anymore. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.240 It's officially graduated. But he's not a great player in anyway. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.760 You're not going to say, oh, that's a game changing player, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.480 but he has way more value for the Angels. I 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.360 would say that he does for say the Braves because 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.520 I do think with the Angels, if you said send 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.120 him to Triple A, but when there's. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.440 An injury, and there will be, we know there are 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:20.080 going to be injuries. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.080 When there is, okay, you bring him up and he 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.040 can play third for a little while, or play second, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:25.880 even play short a little bit in a pinch. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.280 He can do all those things. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.640 Those are the things that I would say year after 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.920 year the Angels haven't had. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:34.920 Have one more question for you, can we can we 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.120 show the board of the ba's top rank prospects traded 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.960 so far? Can we can we pull this back? Please? 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.720 I just want to know JJ. I have a question 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.880 for JJ about it. Namal Is one, Hope is to 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.160 Marquez three, and then we get to really. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.400 I'll give you the updated one because we've had more 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.440 players traded since then. So right now it's Anthony Ayes 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.160 Iinsen one, Themala two, Hope three, Kyson Witherspoon four, and 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.040 Alexander Friez five because no trades are happening fast and furious. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.680 Okay, no problem, But my question is more on River Ryan. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.320 He's about to be twenty eight years old. Is he 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.520 still considered a prospect? 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.560 He is because he's prospect eligibly could win Rooie the 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:13.200 year next year. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.080 That's our rule we have. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.440 But I would say like he is one of the 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.640 most difficult guys to rank in a long time, because 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.400 I cannot find you an example. I've been I've got 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.240 a piece coming out whenever they stopped doing trades, and 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.360 so it'll be tomorrow probably before I get to do it. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:31.800 But I looked at every big league starter who graduated 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.520 from rookie status as age twenty eight or older of 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.800 the twenty first century, and there are a couple on there. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.200 There's Al R. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.040 Dickey, you know, who blew out his arm and then 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.920 reinvented himself as a knuckleballer. And there's Jeremy Guthrie who 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.200 went on a two year you know, mission trip and 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.280 so got off to a late started his career. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.920 It's a very short list there aren't, you know. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.320 If you take out the Japanese pitchers who were coming 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.560 over after long careers in the you know, in the MPB, 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.400 and taking away a few Cuban pitchers who pitched in 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.640 Syria you know, in Seria now now for a long 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.320 time and then came over, you know, take those away, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.320 and there just aren't a whole lot of starters of 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:12.480 Vinnie Ilk domestic starters who graduate at age twenty eight. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.520 River Ryan is a weird case. He was a two 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.840 way player at UNC Pembroke, a shortstop second baseman who 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.640 then would relieve and it was still going to starter 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.400 at the end of the year that had started him. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.040 But he first year as a pitcher in college was 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.960 twenty seventeen and here we are it's twenty twenty six 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.120 and he's thrown one hundred innings once in his career. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.480 That's a hard guy to evaluate because even next year, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.080 as great as his stuff is, even next year, it's 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.720 going to be hard to ramp him up because he's 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.320 thrown thirty six innings this year, basically throw any last 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.240 year he didn't throw the year before that. 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