1 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: With as much information as police had on Victor Harrana, 2 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: they were surprisingly little to go off of. An A 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: p B All points bulletin was put out on what 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: was believed to be the getaway car, a green seventy 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: three buick less Saber with Connecticut plates. Fortunately, that's all 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: they needed. A car matching the description of the vehicle 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: used in the robbery had been spotted outside a nearby airfield, 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: just five miles away from the Wells Fargo depot. It 9 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: was Victor's rented Buick backed into a parking spot outside 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: the Swiss Shell, a inn and now defunct two story 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: motel chain within walking distance to Brainard Airport. Federal agents 12 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: got a warrant to go inside the vehicle. The cash 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: was gone, of course, along with any traces of Victor. 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Police reports show he had left the loaded thirty eight 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: caliber Smith and Wesson revolver and twelve gage pump shotgun 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: he used during the robbery in the car, fully visible 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: with the safeties off in the trunk. Transmission parts and 18 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: a black beret from a military equipment store in New 19 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: York City began to realize from there he had he 20 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: had away car there, like the clean car Victor Heraina 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: couldn't have picked a better place to dump the car. 22 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: In addition to being next to the airfield, the motel 23 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: was adjacent to Interstate which runs from Connecticut all the 24 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: way to Canada. Police recreating the drive said it would 25 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: have taken Victor just twelve minutes to get to the 26 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: motel from the Wells Fargo depot, and that's if he 27 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: was going to speed limit. Detective Ken O'Brien helped with 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: the investigation. There's some speculation about was there an airplane involved. 29 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: It's a state airport, but it's a private planes flying 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: and the towers wasn't always means at the time, and 31 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: you can lean it's, you know, in the twin engine 32 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: plane there easily, but there were no reports of Oh 33 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: my god, So the guy puts seven million dollars of 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: cash into a car and no one knows where he 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: is right, no no idea And it's fiance a Ledgers, 36 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: she has no idea wi she has any contact with him. 37 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Between the two consecutive car hanks, the security guards heard 38 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: during the robbery presumed signal to someone waiting outside the depot, 39 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and approximately one thousand pounds of cash that needed to 40 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: be transported. Police were working under the assumption that victor 41 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: had some help but from home. Now everything's going to 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: our minds that he has to rent a van, something 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: else the suspect was. He fled the area and another vehicle. 44 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Now beginning to realize maybe he wasn't alone. Previously on 45 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: White Eagle, I said, getting her right away. We just 46 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: had a robbery at Wells Fargo and it's a huge robbery, 47 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: and it looks like he had everything with it. He 48 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: needed to restrain one person, but there were two people. 49 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I knew that that car was important in the case 50 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: because it wasn't his and he could indicate a cole conspirator. 51 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Why do you beat the horn? He's not saying goodbye 52 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: to these two guys. He's saying, I'm coming out. My 53 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: name is Zem William Phelps. I'm an investigative journalist and 54 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: author of more than forty true crime books. What you 55 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: were about to hear is the true story of a heist, 56 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: one that funded an international independence movement and sparked an 57 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: investigation spanning nearly four day gates. This is White Eagle. 58 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: The Wells Fargo depot robbery is arguably the most high 59 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: profile case to come across the West Harford Police Department 60 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: in Connecticut, an investigation ultimately involving the FBI's fifty nine 61 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: field offices, scores of agents, other government agencies, and the 62 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: Hartford and West Harford Police all putting in hundreds of 63 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: hours of work. It was the biggest robbery case we 64 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: ever had. We used all kind of manpower in this case. 65 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: During my research into the case, there were a number 66 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: of people I knew I needed to speak with to 67 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: get a better sense of how things operated among law enforcements. 68 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Detective kennel'brien was one of them. His resume is impressive. 69 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: During his twenty eight years as a police officer with 70 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: the West hard For Police Department, Ken was also on 71 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: the Arson Task Force and studied forensics before being sworn 72 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: in as a special federal agent with the State's Attorney's Office. 73 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: Ken is now retired. He's originally from Boston, but his 74 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: ties to Connecticut run deep. He's lived there with his 75 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: wife of fifty four years since nineteen sixty seven. Thank 76 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you for the coffee. We had been in communication for 77 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: months at this point, so he suggested we meet in 78 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: person and do our interview at his house. So I 79 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: have all the reports right here. Yeah, I have all 80 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: the reports from the case. Yeah. Kenn O'Brien is a 81 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: man of many words, sometimes too many when you get 82 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: him going. But it's impossible not to love the guy, 83 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: even when he screens his calls in the middle of 84 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: an interview. It's it's a depth of office. Somebody's got 85 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: one of us has a depth of appointment, So can 86 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: I talk to that? Go ahead? So then that doggedness 87 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: to finish the story is part of what made Ken 88 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: such a great detective all those years. It's been nearly 89 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: four decades and he still has a vivid memory of 90 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: what happened after the robbery. He says, the gravity of 91 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: the situation became utterly apparent when the FBI rolled into 92 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: town just hours after the heist. By four am, the 93 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: West Harford Police Station was ground zero. They come in 94 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: with a team. I bet you that had to be 95 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: a half dozen agents came in and we had a 96 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: conference room. Well we all gathered together and it's like 97 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: a briefing of his what we know, and everybody drew 98 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: in a little bit of information they had, what they 99 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: had done that night before to bring them off the 100 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: speed By then Victor Haraina's photo was everywhere. I can 101 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: remember as a six year old kid myself growing up 102 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: in the area seeing that image of Victor's head shot 103 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: from his Wells Fargo I D badge running across all 104 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: the TV stations and printed above the fold in the 105 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: newspapers day after day. You just could not avoid it. 106 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Since much of the stolen currency was Federal reserve money, 107 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: the FBI took the lead. Whoever in the charge of 108 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: the agents looked around and said where are the phones? 109 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: And there was only one phone in the conference room 110 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: sitting on a window sill, and he said, that's one phone. 111 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: That's not our phone. We'll get more phones, I guarantee. 112 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: Within a few hours there was like six or eight phones. 113 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Then they just make a call boom. I had six 114 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: or eight phone, didn't no kidding, Yeah, unbelievable. They come 115 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: in and they like the statue they have that's for me. 116 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: It's committee town committee with him you know here' even 117 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: message goes on and on. How was that relationship between 118 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the two apartments. We had a real good relationship with 119 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the agents. In fact, we had behind the police station 120 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: was the old now it's called the town hall, but 121 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: it was the old high school and had a track 122 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: and the agents would come and go jogging on that track. 123 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: And we had a locker room and lockers, the amend 124 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: and woman agents male and female, and we had a 125 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: gym and the Remember the FBI actually paid for a 126 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: couple of pieces of equipment so they could use it. 127 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: The FBI working alongside the West Harford Police Department wasn't unusual. 128 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: The Bureau would routinely assist officers and state and local 129 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: cases investigating organized crime, drug trafficking, or in this case, 130 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: the theft and transport of seven million dollars in cash, 131 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: but the manpower in this case was different. The FBI 132 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: had even sent in profile is up from its headquarters 133 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: in Quantico, Virginia. A state arrest warrant plus two federal 134 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: arrest warrants were signed, charging Victor Hereina with a number 135 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: of offenses, theft from an interstate shipment of funds belonging 136 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: to Federal Reserve member banks, theft of those funds, and 137 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: using a weapon in the process of the crime, an 138 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. If Caughton convicted, victor was 139 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: likely looking at decades behind bars in a federal prison. 140 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: For Detective Kenn O'Brien, every little detail mattered. Take up 141 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: five thousand piece puzzle and dumping on a table, and 142 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: now I'm started to try to put pieces together. To 143 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: each team, we'd go out, then at the end of 144 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: the day we'd meet again at the Detective Division and 145 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: there'd be exchange of information. Each day we put another 146 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: piece at a puzzle together. They'd go out in teams 147 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: the West Hartford PD, driving federal aigents around town serving 148 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: as backup. They also looked into local leads, friends of Victor, 149 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: former co workers, his excess, as well as his bride 150 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: to be, twenty year old Anna Soda. I don't think 151 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: he told any of his family what he was going 152 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: to do, and she was devastated. I don't think she 153 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: knew if she knew, she's a great actress, because she 154 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: was devastated that night. During the first few days after 155 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the robbery, Anna Soda wavered between witness and suspect. She 156 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: was engaged to Victor Harina. She had lived with him 157 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: for two years. Could she have had some knowledge of 158 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: his movements? Was he contacting her? Victor's bride to be 159 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: said she had no idea where he was or why 160 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: he'd robbed the depot in the first place. He was 161 00:10:53,880 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: very nice, quite uh nervous, very nervous, but sto naive 162 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: as Anna seemed. Investigators quickly learned she was hiding crucial 163 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: details about Victor's getaway car. She claimed to have no 164 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: knowledge of the rented Buick, but neighbors and friends they 165 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: told a different story. One witness reported seeing Victor with 166 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the buick on Saturday the tenth, the same day he 167 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: got it from the rental agency. She said he used 168 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: it to pick up a pizza for dinner and even 169 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: parked it on the street outside of his apartment, also 170 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: enjoying the car's perks, Anna Soda. Others close to the 171 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: couple told police Anna was seen riding in the car 172 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: that weekend, and Victor even drove her somewhere the morning 173 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: of the robbery. When police found the buick, they noted 174 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: that Victor had put eighty seven miles on the car 175 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: in just two and a half days, meaning he'd driven 176 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: it a hell of a lot. She's the greatest flying 177 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,239 Speaker 1: in the world, and she's telling the truth despite the deception. 178 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: To this a. Both detectives Ken O'Brien and Steve Luby 179 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: describe Anna Soto as a nice person and think Victor 180 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: left her in the dark. I didn't know it at 181 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: the time, but other things were true about the marriage application, 182 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: that you know, we're living together, all the other background 183 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: stuff she gave me it was true. But the car 184 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: became important because her lying about the car made us 185 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: think that she obviously knew more about the case. Was 186 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: determined that I would arrest her for hindering prosecution and 187 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: giving a false statement. Uh and maybe use that as 188 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: a chance to get more out of her. Anna Soto 189 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: was arrested on September fift becoming the first arrest connected 190 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: to the Wells Fargo robbery. Detective Luby says they were 191 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: hoping the threat of jail time would convince Anna to 192 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: offer more information, anything that might lead them to Victor. 193 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: It didn't work. Anna Soto lawyered up and stop talking. 194 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: He had an attorney, Mike Graham. Mike was a character. 195 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: He was how can I say it nicely, He's a 196 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: little slick. He was making early threats. You know, from 197 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: the defense attorney's standpoint, they're good threats to be made, 198 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: that we were harassing her, that we there was talk 199 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: about how they took her out that night, out of 200 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: her apartment and a nightgown at gunpoint to search the apartment. 201 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: So Mike was threatening lossuit for all of us involved. Obviously, 202 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: you're going to clear the house if he isn't there. 203 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: We know he's armed if he isn't there, So I 204 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: don't care if she was completely naked. She's coming out 205 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: quick and we're going in. Anna was released on bond 206 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: shortly after midnight. A little more than a month later, 207 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: a state prosecutor dropped the charges, telling reporters at the 208 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: time he was concerned it would hinder the federal investigation. 209 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I've reached out to Anna to see if she would 210 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: be willing to share her story on the podcast, but 211 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: I never heard back. She was young when she was 212 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: engaged to Victor, just twenty and studying to be a beautician. 213 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Like Victor, she was deeply connected to her Puerto Rican roots. 214 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Anna had lived there for a time with relatives and 215 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: returned to the States a few years before the heist. 216 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: At first, it seemed as though Anna's relationship to Victor 217 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: made her a major player in this story, but within 218 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: days she turned into nothing more than a witness. With 219 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: very little information upon In an elaborate chess game, the 220 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: FEDS were still trying to win, and Victor Harraina seemed 221 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: to be one step ahead. Unlike his amateurish work restraining 222 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: the two security guards at the depot, Victor's moves now 223 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: felt more professional and calculated, far more than the West 224 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: Hartford police and FBI would have ever anticipated, promising leads 225 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: would f allowed into nothing. Police reports detailed countless sightings 226 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: of Victor, and yet none of them ever panned out. 227 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: In all likelihood, was just someone who looked like the guy. 228 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: There was an alleged sighting in Boston of a man 229 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: fitting Victor's description. He was said to be high on 230 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: drugs and sleeping on a park bench days after the robbery. 231 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Another weeks later from a man claiming Victor asked him 232 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: for a ride to a West Harford apartment complex. One 233 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: man even came forward and said he was good friends 234 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: with Victor, speculating that he probably fled the country, maybe 235 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: to Argentina. And another so called acquaintance who happened to 236 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: rent a single engine airplane the night of the robbery 237 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: and flew from Brainard Airport to Boston and back I 238 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: believe the FBI followed up on that checking to see 239 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: if the plane because they would have to do something, 240 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, before they could use the airport, they'd have 241 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: to check in or do something a plane, and it 242 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: would be some record of a plane coming to going, 243 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: and soon they found nothing. There were several leads, however, 244 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: that got law enforcements attention. Take for instance, an envelope 245 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: that arrived in November that year, postmark from Buffalo, New 246 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: York and sent to Victor's lawyer's office in Hartford. Inside 247 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: were three letters purportedly from Victor to his attorney Mike Graham, 248 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: fiance Anna Soto, and Victor's mother Gloria. In one, Victor 249 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: thanks Graham for representing his fiance and others. He says 250 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: he's fine and apologizes for any of the trouble the 251 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: robbery may have caused. His mother and Anna. Graham told 252 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: police the letters contents made Victor's family doubt he'd written them, 253 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: but they did say the handwriting looked like his. Well. 254 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: The FBI agreed. A handwriting analysis and other lap tests 255 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: confirmed that Victor Harraina was the author of the letters, 256 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: yet there was no way to tell when the letters 257 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: were actually written, which now raises the question was Victor 258 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: even still alive, and even if he was, why in 259 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: the world would he risk getting caught. Because of this, 260 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: law enforcement stepped up at search at least twenty FBI 261 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: agents who are assigned to Canvas Buffalo's Latino neighborhoods. The 262 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: Bureau even asked Canadian authorities for help. They agreed and 263 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: promised to search the area as far north as Toronto. 264 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: From the outside, it doesn't make much sense, really. A 265 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: twenty five year old who is engaged to be married 266 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: overcomes two of his coworkers, steal seven million dollars in 267 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: cash and drives away no guarantee of contact with his 268 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: loved ones ever again without going to prison. Who was 269 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: this person? He was clean. Whiston was perfect guy for 270 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: the drop. It should come as no surprise that news 271 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: of the Wells Fargo depot heist was everywhere. The thief 272 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: had so much money to steal from here that he 273 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: couldn't even haul it all away. Police estimate that he 274 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: left about a million dollars behind. Everyone, including law enforcement, 275 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: was baffled. A tabloid in Boston called the robbery the 276 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Big Sleep Heist, a reference to Victor Harain has failed 277 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: attempt to drug his co workers. It was huge news. 278 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was all over the front page of 279 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: every place in the world. Ed mahoney is the harf 280 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: for Current Reporter. You heard in the last st episode. 281 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Everybody figured that they knew that Victor Herain, it was 282 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: the inside man, and everybody was waiting for his body 283 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: to pop up someplace because they figured Weber pulled this 284 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: thing off Houston and he would prove to be expendable. 285 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: Years before Ed began investigating Victor Haraina's role in the 286 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo robbery, he helped expose one of America's most 287 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: notorious violent organized crime figures, James Whitey Boulger. Whitey was 288 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: under investigation for a million years in Boston to kill 289 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: all kinds of people when he was responsible for all 290 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: kinds of mayhem and violence and law enforcement corruption. But 291 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that really put him 292 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: on the national map was his involvement in the murder 293 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: of two or three figures associated with a company called 294 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: World Highlight. The World Highlight murders would end up being 295 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: one of the stories that defined Ed Mahoney's career. Victor 296 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: Haraina was another, and for anyone who thought they knew 297 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: Victor Haraina, a broader picture was beginning to emerge. Victor was, 298 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: you know. He was from the Brooks in New York, 299 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, his mother moved the family from 300 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: the Bronx two Hartford, presumably in search of a more tranquil, 301 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: better safer life. They ended up in UH one of 302 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: the housing projects, and Victor ended up being a good kid. 303 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: Victor attended Buckley High School in Hartford. He was popular 304 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: and well liked, a fairly good student. If you met 305 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: him in the early seventies, you'd probably see him as 306 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: a kind of guy who was going places. He played 307 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: varsity football and was captain of the wrestling team. He 308 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: was a trained peer counselor and a member of the 309 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: Human Relations Club. He had little interest in politics, but 310 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: was a member of the student council. He was a 311 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: kid from a very very immodest background in a touch life, 312 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: and he was making something in it himself. Victor's junior year, 313 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: he was selected to participate in Upward Bound, a federally 314 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: funded youth advancement program that allowed him to take an 315 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: intensive curriculum of courses at nearby Trinity college. By senior year, 316 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: he was awarded a thousand dollar scholarship and was chosen 317 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: to be a legislative intern at the General Assembly. He 318 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: get a job as some kind of an intern at 319 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: the state capitol with a woman who was kind of 320 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: a famous figure in the democratic politics. That woman was 321 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: Maryan Delaney, a strong willed figure in politics who for 322 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven years helped run the clerk's office at the 323 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: Connecticut House of Representatives. According to Ed Mahoney, Delaney took 324 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: to Victor and advised him on everything from what he 325 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: wore to how he spoke. Took him under a wing, 326 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: and that was what went wrong. Victor had his choice 327 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: of colleges to attend. He was reportedly considering the University 328 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: of Connecticut and Trinity College, but Marion Delaney became a 329 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: powerful influence over Victor and convinced him to go to 330 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: her alma mater. She got him into this kind of 331 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: really weird, strict Catholic college in Woodstock, Connecticut called Annehurst College, 332 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, which was run by a bunch of nuns 333 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: and was on the verge of bankruptcy. The former all 334 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: women's college was in such financial despair that they had 335 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: recently expanded the student body to include men. In the 336 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: fall of nineteen seventy six, Victor was one of two 337 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: dozen male students among two hundred female classmates. A quarterly 338 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: con kid from inner city Hartford just didn't fin in 339 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: a place like this. Woodstock, Connecticut is only a forty 340 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: five minute drive from Harvard, yet for a kid from 341 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: the pro objects, it might as well be a world away. 342 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: Woodstock is rural with rolling green hills, large estates, and wineries. 343 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: And there's Victor, you know, penniless, stuck out in the 344 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere in the woods, with no money, no car, 345 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: no nothing, and it just kind of fell apart. Victor 346 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: left Annhurst without finishing his freshman year, and from that 347 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: point on things took a turn. He jumped from one 348 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: job to the next. Police reports show he worked at 349 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: the state capitol, where he had interned as a student, 350 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: before finding work as a roofer, a special education counselor 351 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: at the Harford Board of Education, an apprentice at a 352 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: local aerospace company, and at one point he even joined 353 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: the National Guard. There were a series of relationships as well. 354 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: In Victor left his longtime girlfriend Maggie not long before 355 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: she was due to give birth to their daughter for 356 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: an old friend from high school named Pamela. The two 357 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: married and split up that same year, when Pamela was 358 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: three months pregnant with Victor's second child. Pamela told police 359 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: the marriage ended because it was clear he still had 360 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: feelings for Maggie. For the next few years, Victor went 361 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: back and forth between the two women. They eventually joined 362 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: forces to get him to pay child support, and by 363 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: two he was paying them and planning a new life 364 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: with Anna Soda. Both exes described Victor as a loving father, 365 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: though not always present. They said he was traditional. He 366 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: liked to be the breadwinner, even though he had trouble 367 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: holding down a job. Even the Wells Fargo depot job 368 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a given. Victor's brother told police Victor had actually 369 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: been suspended for a month earlier that summer over an 370 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: issue involving some missing money. Detective Steve Luby says police 371 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: thought Victor saw an opportunity and seized on it. You know, 372 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: some local kids saw this money. He's dealing with this 373 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: money every day, figures this is gonna be an easy heist. 374 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: These armored car people, they were notorious for being careless 375 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: with money. I mean, we had reports in the past 376 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: of five thousand dollars dropping off the rear bumper in 377 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: a bag and these things when the guys drove off 378 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: and forgot to put it in the truck. You know, 379 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: they handled large amount of moneys. But the security, if 380 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: you look back at the security, it was not that 381 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: good at a lot of these companies. Pamela, Victor's ex 382 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: wife and the mother of his second child, said she 383 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: never understood why he went through with the robbery, but 384 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: didn't think he could have pulled it off alone. She 385 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: said she wouldn't be surprised if he wound up dead 386 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: somewhere and maybe, just maybe he'd gotten in over his head. 387 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: She also told pal Lae something that stuck with me, 388 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: a potential motive even She said Victor had a tendency 389 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: to run. He left mag when she was nine months pregnant, 390 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: He left her when she was three months pregnant, and 391 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: now it seems he ran out on Anna before they 392 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: got married. The big question at the time, where would 393 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Victor run too? And all the stuff are getting early 394 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: on him. It was like a longe wolf. He he 395 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: would He was never involved in much of anything that 396 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: we could determine. It's like, all of a sudden, this 397 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: guy just existed and there wasn't a lot of background, 398 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: a bottom to be had. Police thought Victor saw an 399 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: opportunity and he took it. They didn't think for one 400 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: minute was some kind of mastermind criminal. Then about six 401 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: months after the heist, police got a lead they could 402 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: not ignore. We got a cough from Massachusetts State Police 403 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: and some d OT Massachusetts Primate Transportation workers cleaning a 404 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: rest area, the first one right off of four couple 405 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: of miles up from this at the border, and they 406 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: were cleaning up there and they found a wallet and 407 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: identification and with Victor Nu's So first of all, now 408 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: we know two things. He's heading to Boston. And also 409 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: in your mind at the same time is if the 410 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: wallace there is your body remains nearby. Mass State police 411 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: were there, the FBI think went up there too. Sure, 412 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: finding Victor's I D near Boston was a solid lead, 413 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: but it also can't be ruled out that anyone could 414 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: have planted that wallet to throw police off Victor sent 415 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: so to speak, that is, if he was even still alive. 416 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: The FBI and State police didn't get much information from 417 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: the wallet discovery, giving them really little to nothing to 418 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: go on. After that, leads slowed to a trickle. The 419 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo Armored Service Corporation, which had initially offered a 420 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: three fifty thousand dollar reward for information, bumped it up 421 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: to half a million dollars. It was the largest reward 422 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: ever offered for a single crime in the United States. 423 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: Even that didn't work. But just when the FBI thought 424 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: all roads to Victor lead nowhere, the unthinkable happened. Victor 425 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: went public. On September twel exactly one year after the heist, 426 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: three handwritten postcards arrived at various news outlets around the country. 427 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: One to the Harvard Current in Connecticut, had an image 428 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: of the Statue of Liberty on the front. It arrived 429 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: inside an envelope postmarked from New York City. FBI forensic 430 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: experts confirmed the postcards were written by Victor, yet once 431 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: again there was no indication when they were actually written. Still, 432 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: based on what he wrote, Victor not only wanted to 433 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: set the record straight about the robbery, he also wanted 434 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: to send a message quote, I will clear up any 435 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: confusion that still exists about me or what happened to 436 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: the money. Shortly, be on the lookout. Next time I'm 437 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: White Eagle and the money shows up. That was traceable money. 438 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: It's sounded to think of something organized here, we follow 439 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: the money. 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