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But 32 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: today we not only have the pleasure but the privilege 33 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: of having a member of an organization who advocates for 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: policy change, record clearing and release of cannabis prisoners. You 35 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: gotta love it. We've talked to this organization before, but 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Stephanie Shepard, we have not talked to. Who's a board 37 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: member and partner manager for the Last Prisoner Project. Now, 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: as the first time non violent defender, Stephanie was sentenced 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: to ten years in federal prison in two ten, I 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear the lowdown on all this Stephanie, 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: which is just crazy. She also manages their letter writing program, 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: a writing program excuse me, which keeps art incarcerated community 43 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: connected to those on the outside who are supporting the releases. 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: You guys, to support their efforts, please head to the 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: Last Prisoner Project dot RG. That's l A S T 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: P R I S O N E R p R 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: o j ECT dot org. Thank you so much for 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: coming on the show with us. Stephanie. How you doing today, 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. Thank you for having me, No, thank 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: you for coming on now. As we gave this big intro, 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, first off, before we get into this ten 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: year first time being sentenced, who are you and where 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: you from? I am Stephanie Shepherd. I'm from I'm originally 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: from Sacramento, California, which is where I lave now back, Okay, Sacramento, 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Sacra Tomato. Many people call it many things, Sacramento, um, 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: but I call it home. I did move away and 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: go to New York. That's where I caught my case though. 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so let me ask you real quick. As 59 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you're in Sacramento, you could I'm from San Jose by 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: the way, born and raised in Santos and I worked 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: in San Francisco for a long time, ended out for 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: a radio station called Wild ninety nine. But do you 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: consider Sacramento the Bay Area? Absolutely not. Okay, I would 64 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: never be one of I would never be one of those. 65 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: But we are adjacent. Yes, I agree one thou will 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, people from Sacramento. You run 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: into something like, no, we're from the Bay. Were from Sacramento. 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: My mother, here's here's here's my beef with that. You 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: can't get more Bay than E forty. And he's from Ballejo, 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: So it's you can be adjacent. And I spent a 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of weekends they're growing up, so just sneaking away 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: still in my dad's car. Oh okay, hey I like that. Yeah. 73 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I got a lot of friends that have moved to 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Sacramento from out this way and all that good stuff. 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: But so tell me about this. I mean, you never 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: had anything happened to you. You get one case in 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: New York explained the situation. What happened. I got involved 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: with a conspiracy charge. They were offering me an eight 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: year sentence, I mean an eight year plea deal. So 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of plea is that? I wasn't. 81 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: I was surprised at that. But at that time they 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: couldn't have given me. They couldn't have pleaded me for 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: eight months, and I wouldn't have taken it. So they 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: told me I was looking at ten years if I 85 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: didn't cooperate. Well, I did cooperate. I told you what 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: I did and what I know, in which you have 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: a proof of nothing else. So I took it to 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: a trial. New York has a ninety eight per sent 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: win rate um. But with the eight, with the eight 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: year offer, it eight was ten to me, just like 91 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: ten is twelve to me. So it was all relative um. 92 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: And after on a Friday, after a week's trial, UM, 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: forty minutes probably deliberation, no questions asked, no anything um, 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: the judge decided to let the jury go deliberate on 95 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: a Friday at two o'clock. So either we come back 96 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Monday or we just finished it today. And they finished 97 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: it that day and I never went home again. And 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: so you served the ten years. I served nine of 99 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: the ten. Um. What it probably would have been a 100 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: little bit what go ahead probably be a little bit less. 101 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: What what what probably would have been a little bit, I 102 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: probably would have got out in a little sooner, but 103 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: a good time, you know, with my good time and everything. 104 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: But when you get in troubled, that's the first thing 105 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: they'd take. And I got into, you know, nine years, 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: I got into some trouble and you don't realize till 107 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: the end of your sentence, like, fuck, I wish I 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: hadn't did that. I wish I hadn't got in trouble 109 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: that day. I wish I hadn't because those that time 110 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: adds up. But that's the first thing they take away 111 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: from you. So I did pretty much all of my time. Really. 112 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I also did a drug program. That's the only other 113 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: way outside of the president, you know, pardoning you is 114 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: a one year drug program. It's a nine month program, 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: but it gets you a year off. And I always 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: said I would never do that, Like you're already making 117 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: me look like a drug dealer. Now you're going to 118 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: make me into a drug addict because I consume so 119 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: my whole time. They know I'm not doing that. And 120 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: then my dad got sick. And when my dad got sick, 121 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I said, I got to get home as quick as possible. 122 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Sign me up. Unfortunately I did not make it home, 123 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: and my dad passed away, but I was already signed up. 124 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I was done with doing time. I said, let me 125 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: finish this program. But to occupy a space that's meant 126 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: for somebody who really has a drug problem. I felt 127 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: horrible about it. But if you're that's the only offer 128 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you're making me is to come in and say I'm 129 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: a drug addict, because I can assume cannabis is ridiculous. 130 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: So I'm going to take that opportunity. And I did. 131 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: And I got home twenty nineteen. Wow. And let me 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: ask you, Stephanie, what was it exactly that they hit 133 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: you four out there have a like conspiracy to distribute 134 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: a thousand and more kilos of marijuana? Conspiracy? Like did 135 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: they catch you with a thousand kilos of this? No? 136 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: They did not. They caught my ex with hold on 137 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: a second year. So you were with your ex at 138 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: the time, and your ex we were broken up, but 139 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: we were broken up, but we were still hushing. Yeah, 140 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: but um, he got he got caught up, and six 141 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: months went by and they never came for me. I 142 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: worked in the same place, I sold real estate. I 143 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: lived in the same place in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. I just 144 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: went on with my life. When he got arrested and said, man, 145 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: that sucks. Well. One day, I'm sitting at lunch and 146 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: I get a call from his attorney saying, hey, do 147 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: you want to come down and talk to me about 148 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: you know the sky And I said, you know the 149 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: nose and me the nosiness. I'm a female, I said, okay, 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on with him. I 151 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: want to hear the scoop. I go down talk to 152 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: the lawyer. Turns out his bad heart problem had just 153 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: gotten worse. He needed like a transplant, he needed all 154 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: medical care. A lawyer said, if I can get him 155 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: out on medical bond, can he stay with you? And 156 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: I said yes, and went to court, talked to the judge, 157 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: spoke to the judge. The judge said, I find this 158 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: young lady responsible, incredible, and I'm gonna recommend he'd be 159 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: released into her custody. So as I'm getting ready getting 160 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: dressed to go pick him up that Friday, I get 161 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: a buzz at my door and it's a DA agent 162 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: and an ICE agent and they say, we're looking for 163 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Stephanie Shepherd. We have a warrant for her arrest. Yeahs 164 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: an all plot, like they didn't you know what's sad 165 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: is I wish it were a plot, but not to 166 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: go too deep in the woods, but I wish it 167 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: were a plot because the fact that he had ran 168 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: his mouth to his people about me and then thought 169 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: they weren't going to tell when I came and tried 170 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: to help him, Like it was just anyway. I don't 171 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: have any ill will, any ill feelings about the time 172 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: I did. What I do have an issue with is 173 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: people still doing time. Well, yes, especially as it's legal then. 174 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't back then when you got pop, 175 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: but this was your first time offense, Like why don't 176 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: fill the book on you so hard for a first 177 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: time mandatory manage? Like you didn't have it on you? Yeah, bullshit. 178 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: They never saw me with anything. They didn't even have 179 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: a warrant to search my house. But me walking in 180 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: that courtroom and having that judge determined he could come 181 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: home with me, it would it would have never. It 182 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: was never going to happen. They were determined no matter 183 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: who walked into that room, he was not getting out. 184 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: And so um yeah, I ended up being on pre 185 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: trial for one year. So this year is the hardest 186 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: year of my life because Ay I'm keeping it a 187 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: secret from mostly everyone, including my parents. I'm going to work. 188 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to work every day, you know, hustling, trying 189 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: to sell real estate until because of my pending felony, 190 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: I lost my real estate license. So yeah, son, it's 191 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: a mandatory minimum, that's what That's why it ended up 192 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: being a ten year mandatory minimum. Ten year mandatory minimum. 193 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: On a conspiracy theory, Yes, because of the amount of cannabis. 194 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: They said you had that you that I was conspiring 195 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: to move. Yes, And the only way that they got 196 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: this conspired is because somebody was running their mouth because 197 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: nothing from you, period. They got nothing from me but 198 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: four guys who were in the van who never went 199 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to jail. They were actually in the van with the product, 200 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: never ended up going to jail, but they ended up 201 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: on that stand saying it was her. It was her. 202 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: So they all threw you under the bus. The DA 203 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: feels like they got somebody to serve the crime the 204 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: time for this because these four collab ons on something 205 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: where you're just the X chick of the homie and 206 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: then all of them said, okay, we're gonna throw her 207 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: under the bus, and well, he was already thrown under 208 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: the bus. So he did time to um a couple 209 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: of other people, but the four that were in the 210 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: van with him, they they took the stand and then 211 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: throw you. And you know, you're like, I didn't even 212 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: make the paper on any of this. At least let 213 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: me reach some of this. That that that is, you know, um. 214 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: But a crazy part about it is when they put 215 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: up the other people in the conspiracy. It was like 216 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: guy guy, guy, guy, guy, guy, guy, guy. Me. Then 217 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: they put my picture up and they I don't know 218 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: where they got this picture from, but I'm smiling, And 219 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: I mean, if you didn't laugh at that situation, you 220 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: would cry, um, which I did. Once I got remanded 221 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: from the courtroom, I did cry. Behind the doors they 222 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: found your old MySpace picture. That was the picture something 223 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: like that. Honestly, they did bring up some MySpace action. 224 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: It was crazy. Oh that's my name, I forgot. I 225 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: forgot to even tell you that. That's kind of a 226 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: funny thing. Is apparently due to me busting out this 227 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: guy's windows and a barbecue back in the day, I 228 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: got the nickname and the crew crazy. So all my 229 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: court paperwork says Stephanie Shepherd aka Crazy now that's that's 230 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: what gets me. That's what gets me. Oh my goodness, 231 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: the story is gonna get bigger and better. And now 232 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: you're working. I can't wait to hear how it goes 233 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: in there. Let's take a break, come right back, We're 234 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: gonna hear more from Stephanie. It's Cannabis Talk twee. We'll 235 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: right back after this break. We'll be right back with 236 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk 237 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: one oh one. New Trip you guys has a complete 238 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: growing system for Canadas that optimizes all phases cycles to 239 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: bring in their corructure to genetical thinker will discover more 240 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: advanced new trits dot com. Oh, Stephanie, I cannot believe 241 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Should I call you crazy? Or should I call you Stephanie? 242 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: And what's horriful about that is in prison you can 243 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: look up cases, you know, in the law library. So 244 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: when my friends saw my paperwork, because people thought I 245 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: was sixty days in, they thought I was like, no, 246 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: she's a plant. Listen to house. She talks like, look 247 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: at her. She doesn't seem like somebody who's here for drugs. 248 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. And so people would go look 249 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: you up on the on the computer and they come 250 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: back laughing. They come back like, oh my god, crazy. 251 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're a real estate agent, for God's sake, 252 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: so you're polished and it like you're sim a hood 253 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: rat going in that. I go, okay, you know what 254 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, you got some nice chart, Brason you choose. 255 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, yeah, I'm not I'm not losing 256 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: it like that where the stereotype of the drug user, uh, 257 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, goes in there a little bit different, which 258 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I which. You know, I was happy to have that 259 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: paperwork available. That was for sure for people to be 260 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: able to see I was not there's no face to 261 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: what someone who sells cannabis looks like or well, what's 262 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: even craziers that that happens like that for you? So 263 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: how was the time in there for you? How was it? 264 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: How did it go by? You know what it went by? 265 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I have to say it felt quick because it was 266 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: about five years in before I even accepted that I 267 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: was not getting out tomorrow. Like, in my mind, this 268 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: is a mistake. Surely I'm not going to be stuck here. 269 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: Sure early someone's going to come to their senses and 270 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: say this woman doesn't belong at the prison. And it 271 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: was five years in that I woke up one day 272 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: and I was like this. I looked around the room, 273 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: a room full of women, and I said, this is 274 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: my reality for the next possibly five years. Wow. So 275 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: I feel like that's when it started. I feel like 276 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: that's when my pom started. And I was, yeah, I 277 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: was on the downside of it. But when I first 278 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: got in, I was still thinking Stephanie from the streets, 279 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: polished Stephanie, you know, I want to speak to your 280 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: marriager type shit. So I and immediately started to see, Okay, 281 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: there's some things I'm gonna have to adjust to make 282 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: it through this time that I'm here. So with that 283 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: being said, I also respect by knowing what I was 284 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: talking about. When something was brought to my attention from 285 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: a staff member or anything like that, Oh, oh you 286 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: did this wrong, I'm gonna give you a shot or 287 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: a violation. No, because here's what I know about this. 288 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: I read that handbook the first day that everyone threw away. 289 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: I kept copies. I read it hit brent to back. 290 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: So as soon as someone said you have I'm gonna 291 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: give you a ticket for having too many books. I 292 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: can bring out that a handbook that we got the 293 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: first day and say no, it says right here, I'm 294 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: allowed to have twelve because two of these are paperback. 295 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: So even though I did get into that kind of travel, 296 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: most of the staff and the inmates, because I would 297 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: also put them onto it. Oh girl, you got in trouble, 298 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: you got a shot for that. Here's what you do, 299 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: here's what you say. So I was just kind of 300 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: that person and it worked out for me in the end. 301 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean I I spent some time in the hole 302 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: to shoe the box, whatever you want to call it, 303 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: but um, it was part of Oh god, time you 304 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: speak with an Arab entitlement, you speak with an Arab entitlement, 305 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: and I know what that means. You you are You're 306 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: you're very uppity shepherd. You'll be back And I would 307 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: just laugh because you don't know me from Adam and 308 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: you don't know I won't be back. Wow, my my 309 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: other the rest of my community that's in here incarcerated 310 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: for cannabis. Yeah, I'll be back for them. But that's 311 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: it right. So now you look up with the last 312 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: prisoner project, who I love all them over there they're great, 313 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: dear friends cannabis talk one on one And how did 314 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: that connection and relationship happened. I was incarcerated with the 315 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: young lady who was also there for Cannabis UM, doing 316 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: a long sentence, and she got out a few years 317 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: a few months before me. So when I came home, 318 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: she was already hooked up with Last Prisoner Project Evelyn 319 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: last Chappelle. Yeah yeah, so um, that's actually what drew 320 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: us together, was being was the legalization of cannabis outside 321 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: and the industry growing, and us watching a news um 322 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: report about cannabis. You know, we weren't even cool, we 323 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: weren't even friends prison politics, but we both stayed up 324 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: one night to watch a news report because we both 325 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: had marijuana charges, and just she and I were in there, 326 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: and we saw this lady talking about how business is 327 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: booming outside, and you know, she's doing time away from 328 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: her daughter. I'm doing time, and we look at each 329 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: other and we're like, the fun business is booming. Wow. 330 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: And when she got out, she had already hooked up 331 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: with Last Prisoner Project. They were just getting started. She 332 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: invited me down to a maybe the first or second 333 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: fundraiser that LPP had so me and my ankle monitor 334 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: truck get on down to the bay and that's where 335 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: I met Sarah and Mary and Steve and I've been 336 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: with them ever since. And as time went on, they 337 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: finally said, hey, join us full time. Work with us 338 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: all the time. Because for the first year and a 339 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: half or so, I was just volunteering my time because 340 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: that's how important it is to me. And finally they said, 341 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're already doing the work, and we want 342 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: you to do it with this full time. So that's 343 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: when I came on board as a staff member, and 344 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: they asked me to join the board just to have 345 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: that perspective, that experience, someone who has seen the journey 346 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: and how can it further the organization and serve the 347 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: organization and our constituents with my past experiences. And it's 348 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: going great. And we just put in one on the 349 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: board from dead Press, so we've got you know, we're 350 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: shaking it up a little bit. Well, that's amazing right there. 351 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: It's so funny when we had Evident on the show 352 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: and we were when I was listening to your story 353 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: right now too, I was like hearing bits and pieces 354 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: that actually reminded me of her story a little bit right. 355 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean, her story is there's some similarities and differences, 356 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: but I was like, wow, that sounds like her. And 357 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: not forget that it was the same board, the same 358 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: ship where I know exactly what that is. And that's 359 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: so random that you guys there and as you say, 360 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: the politics in prison, did you guys? Was it because 361 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: she was from la and you're from Sacramento? Is that 362 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: the politics that you guys had to play? No, I 363 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: mean I didn't really consider her her location anything. It was. 364 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: It's it's so silly. You've got you know that hundreds 365 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: in that in that particular place, we were hundreds. Maybe 366 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: we were hundreds. It was a camp. We met at 367 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: prison camp. So after I did my medium to whatever 368 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: you want to call level um in the first three prisons, 369 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I was, I got my points down low enough that 370 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: I could go to a camp, because you have to 371 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: be it. My father was ninety one when I went 372 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: to prison, so the chances that something would happen to 373 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: him were great. So when I knew that if I 374 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: did get make it to a camp, if anything did happen, 375 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: I could furlough because we were allowed furlough. So I 376 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: just stayed out of trouble my last eighteen months, didn't 377 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: get into any trouble at my last prison, and finally, 378 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: um I was able to go to camp. But now 379 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: just silly girl stuff, I guess. I mean I didn't 380 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: know her or anything, but I knew a friend and 381 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: she knew a friend, and the friends didn't get along. 382 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was nothing, but it just yeah, 383 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: well no but she well yeah, yeah, and it happens because, 384 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: like I just said, I know of the other you know, 385 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of politics when it comes to prison, 386 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: and I know more of the men's side, and of 387 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: course as minorities, we all have them. But that's why 388 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, black on Black, Well, 389 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: that's why I was computing, like had to be an 390 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: area situation, maybe because even for me like being Latin, 391 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: but if I'm from the Bay, but yeah, I'm from 392 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: LA and then you go in there and it's where 393 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: are you from? It It just the politics who've got 394 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: to deal with in these prisons are are no joke. 395 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: It's very different. They're very different for the men's prisons. 396 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: I was in five prisons, I mean, and you know, 397 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: with sprinkling of counties in between there and the things 398 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: that I know about that go on in men's prisons, 399 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: we don't really have so much of that. I mean, 400 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: do people stick with their group yet? Do? But I 401 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: mean I had plenty of friends in all areas. I 402 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: had friends who were witches, you know, I have the 403 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: Muslim friends, I had Hispanic parents. Like, it's not so 404 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 1: much broken down like that into women's prisons. Now, if 405 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: there was some type of race riot, I'm sure that 406 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: we will find out very quickly. But I never experienced that, 407 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: so we were all cool. Well, that's a good thing. 408 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break real quick, comeback more with 409 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Stephanty from the Last Prison or Project, and we'll see 410 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: how you can get involved in help with what they're doing. 411 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. Will be right back 412 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: after this break. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk 413 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: one oh one. 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Stephanie, I love 420 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: what you are, what your story is, what you've been through, 421 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: I mean love it, and the fact that you know 422 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: you're helping others now go through what you've gone through 423 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: and try to eliminate so much problems, so to speak. 424 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Like when you okay at first time offender for cannabis 425 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: and the last Prisoner Project is sitting there helping people 426 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: like yourself do this. You've been doing it for free, 427 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: and then before you know it, you go out and 428 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: they start paying you full time to be a board member. 429 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: How can someone listening to this be like, what can 430 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: I do to help? I support cannabis. I believe this 431 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: is a plant, This is medicine. People, especially who are 432 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: first time offenders like yourself, are people that are incarcerated 433 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: for the first time even having an announced let alone 434 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: a Graham are a joint for God's sakes? How can 435 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: people get involved in help? That good question because of 436 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: what I went through. But I also know what the 437 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: industry is like today. I I have no choice but 438 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: to help. I can't. The same thing that made me 439 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: not cooperate is this same thing that drives me to 440 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: fight for the people who are still incarcerated. It's just 441 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: in me. A great way for people to get involved 442 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: to help is right now, we have several campaigns. What 443 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: it is is I feel like I can talk all 444 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: day and you know, some people will hear me, but 445 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: it takes all our voices and all that pressure. And 446 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: one of the ways that we are pressuring right now 447 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: that people can get involved with is our Pardons to 448 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Progress campaign. So Pardons to Progress is basically us calling 449 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: on all of us calling on governors, because that is 450 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: the majority of the people where they are incarcerated is 451 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: on the state level. You know, maybe federally it's maybe 452 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: a few thousand people, but the majority of those incarcerated 453 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: are at the federal level. So we have different advocacy campaigns. 454 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: We have a Time to Heal, which asked President Biden 455 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: to use his abilities to release the thousands that are incarcerated. 456 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: But then we have the Pardons to Progress, which calls 457 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: on the governors and when he when President Biden did 458 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: make his announcement maybe in October of last year or something, 459 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and he pardoned people for simple possession, well, we know 460 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: no one is incarcerated federally for simple possession. So no 461 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: one was released. But what that announcement did do was 462 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: give that nod to governors like use the power that 463 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: you have at your state level, and he gave them 464 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: the nod to do so. So we have this campaign. 465 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: You can go on to our website and we have 466 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: a take action page and on that take action page 467 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: is the Pardons to Progress campaign, which is very important 468 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: just to make those governors, because governors, I feel like 469 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: are maybe a little bit easier than the president. But 470 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: on that state level, then there is also like the 471 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey cannabis clemency, We have a Kevin Allen campaign. 472 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: If you think my story is extra, imagine you sell 473 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: twenty dollars to your homeboy who has, unknowingly to you, 474 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: turned some type of informant, and you go to prison 475 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: for life because it's your third strike for twenty dollars 476 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: worth of cannabis. So we have this campaign asking people 477 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: to put put that pressure on the DA to release Kevin. 478 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: Kevin's done enough time, but it takes these people to 479 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: feel pressure. And we set it up very easy on 480 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: the take action page for people to be able to 481 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: go in. You know, cut and paste. It's drop your name, 482 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: drop your address, the letters already written for you. Sharing 483 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: our messages on social media is another way to get involved. 484 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: I do pop ups at some places, and the amount 485 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: of people who don't really understand that people are not 486 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: only still going to jail for a cannabis, people are 487 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: doing life sentences. People like Parker Coleman are doing sixty 488 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: years for cannabis. Like so, when I imagine being told 489 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: you have life without the possis you can kill somebody 490 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: and get the possibility of role. Kevin Allen has life 491 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: without the possibility of parole. That is unacceptable, especially if 492 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: you go to some of the larger conventions, or you 493 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: go to some of the beautiful dispensaries, or and that's happening, 494 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: And where's this guy out of what? What's his full story? 495 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: He is in Louisiana. Um, he has been in for 496 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: quite a while and he has life without possibility parole. 497 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: We are making some progress on that case. UM, hope 498 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: his sentence has been overturned. Now it has to be resentenced. 499 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: But from life anything could be a resentence, you know, 500 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: thirty years could be a resentence. That's that's unacceptable. So 501 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: putting that pressure on the DA and we really try 502 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: to make it super easy. We have a new Jersey 503 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: Cannabis clemency campaign release Rudy Gamo. It's just something that 504 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: only takes You could probably participate in all of our 505 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: campaigns in under ten minutes five minutes, and it's all 506 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: on our website. You can do it through the phone. 507 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: We even have a letter writing campaign. Because one of 508 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: the things that I noticed was in prison, like, thankfully 509 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: I had some support in my sister, but some people 510 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: have nobody and that gets noticed, That gets noticed by 511 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: the other inmates, that gets noticed by the staff. If 512 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: nobody outside cares about you, why should we, and we'll 513 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: treat you accordingly. They knew if they treated me any 514 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: kind of way, my sister would be outside with a 515 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: news station demanding to know where I am, what's going on. 516 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Everyone doesn't have that. So to see people getting mail, 517 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: to have your name called at mail call, it's it's 518 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: a small lift on our part. You can do a 519 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: letter right from your phone and submit it and it 520 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: gets sent to the prisoner. So that's one of those things, 521 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of that political thing, and we spoke about, right, 522 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: I see that that you say that. I never would 523 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: have thought that how that could play a big heavy 524 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: factor because, like you said, everybody and they're like, man, 525 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: ain't got shit in just three years. Nobody knows even here, 526 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: nobody cares about you. Nobody cares about you. You know, 527 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: why should we treat you with any kind of respect 528 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: that there's going to be no repercussions? They think, so, Um, 529 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: those are just a few of the ways, but really 530 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: I just encourage all the listeners to go to Last 531 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: Prisoner project dot org. Go to the take action page, 532 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: see what we have going on, sign up for a 533 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: newsletter so you get updates on what's going on. We 534 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: have reentry programs. If you know anybody who's in that 535 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: situation and needs services or help, whether they're incarcerated or 536 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: they just came home from a non violent cannabis sentence, 537 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: we have help for them. And if you are a 538 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: dispensary owner or a brand owner, or you just want 539 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: to get involved, we have many different programs, partnership programs. 540 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: If you've ever gone into a dispensary and had somebody 541 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: ask if you wanted to donate to cannabis prisoners, thanks 542 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: to some of those programs like roll it up for Justice, 543 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: which we are at about maybe four or five hundred 544 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: dispensaries in the country. Thanks to out we were able 545 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: to so far, we're a little over three years old 546 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: as an org and we have been able to give 547 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: two over two million dollars in direct funding. That no 548 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: matter what you say, when you come home and you 549 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: don't have anything, and you've done ten years, twenty years, 550 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: thirty years in the case of Richard DeLisi, when you 551 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: come home and you need a jump start, you need help. 552 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't have it like that when they get home. 553 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: So to be able to give out a grant for 554 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: someone to maybe bio used car or pay for some 555 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: last month's rent, that's huge. And it's thanks to the 556 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: partnerships that we've developed and just the average everyday person 557 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: who's like, damn, this is messed up, that we are 558 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: able to put money on commissary accounts. People think prisons free. 559 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: Prison is not free. Prison is actually pretty damn expensive. 560 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: And you don't get enough food, you don't get enough 561 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: proper hygiene. You have to purchase that. But you're only 562 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: making twelve fifteen cents an hour at your job, but 563 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: you're getting a thirty thirty percent markup on soap or 564 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: lotion or laundry detergent, So it doesn't equal out um, 565 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: So where does that fall on. It falls on either 566 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: you doing some something strange for a little change, or 567 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: it falls on your family. And sometimes your family don't 568 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: got it. You don't have they don't have it. So 569 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm very happy that we can step in and put 570 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: that assistance on their accounts so that they can maybe 571 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: talk to the children. Helping the children of people incarcerated 572 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: through our family support grants. We have a young lady. 573 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Her father has been incarcerated fourteen years. He has a 574 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: twenty two year sentence is She has has grown up 575 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 1: with only visiting her father through phone calls and through 576 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: so she's now a second year law student in Atlantic. 577 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: She's an amazing shout out to Rashida, asked Mead, So 578 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: those types of support, it's so many layers to this onion. 579 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: We could go on all day. I love hearing the story, Stephanie, 580 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time and everything that you shared 581 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: with us. I mean, is there anything else that you 582 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: want to tell the listeners out there that are sitting 583 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: there going okay, I know it's you know, the Last 584 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: Prisoner Project dot org that I can go to that 585 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I could be at least part of a letter, or 586 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: you know, is it just people that you can pick 587 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: the present a letter too? I mean they're all there 588 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: listed or how it's all it's all digitalized on our website. 589 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: The pictures, the profiles you can kind of scan through 590 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: with the click, see different pictures, see different people. Um, 591 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: you may see it in a local dispensary or something. 592 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: We we do work with a lot of people, and 593 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: especially for the holidays, we got um it's an especially 594 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: lonely time, so we really pushed with a lot of 595 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: dispensaries to have those materials available in store. But yeah, 596 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: you just go. You can write the letter. You can 597 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: do it on your phone as long as you want. 598 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like a small space because it's 599 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: your phone, but you can write as much as you want. UM, 600 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: submit it. It gets printed out and sent to the inmates. 601 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: And something that was so great recently and all and 602 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: on this is one of our constituents recently got home 603 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: and he actually did a video showing all the letters 604 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: that he received while he was incarcerated. So some days 605 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: when I feel like, does anybody even hear me like, 606 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: am I just turning my will here? Does anybody even care? 607 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: That shows something like that will happen and show me 608 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: that people do care on both sides. So the fact 609 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: that he saved all these letters and said, you know, 610 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get back to all these people who 611 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: wrote me, like, that's so dope. That is amazing though, 612 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: that you can just tell he felt to love and 613 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: that's what it's about right there, and you know he 614 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: received him. How beautiful is that? Well? Thank you so much, 615 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: against Stephanie for your time. We really appreciate it. I'm 616 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: glad you're home. I'm glad you're safe. As my son 617 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: Tragis jumps in the car, I'm about to take him, 618 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: say Dre, he better take him the basketball practice you 619 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: have him doing? To remember this, folks. If nobody out 620 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: there love you, we do. Thank you much, Stephanie, appreciate 621 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: your time. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one 622 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: on one on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever 623 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.