1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. This 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: is Strange with j Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren. 12 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: At each week on this show, I'll be bringing in 13 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: brand new my glowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments 14 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more on 15 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: this edition of the show, What's the Real Deal with Reiki? 16 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: You know, when I was growing up, the schools that 17 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: I went to in the rural mountains of western North 18 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Carolina were pretty tough. There was a lot of fighting 19 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: that went on back then, and I didn't even realize 20 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: just how violent many of my school experiences were until 21 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: I met my wife Lauren, and she was like, nothing 22 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: like that ever happened when I went to school. So 23 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: anybody who went to the schools I went to during 24 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the years I to them has seen some pretty bloody fights, 25 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: and I have been in some of them. That was 26 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: just the way it was. And now, frankly, I have 27 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: always been or growing up, I was always large for 28 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: my age, so that helped me quite a bit. But 29 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know, when you're a freshman 30 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: in high school and you're up against three seniors, that's scary. 31 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: You need to you need to have a little extra 32 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: understanding of how to defend yourself. And things really started 33 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: getting rough in middle school and then you know right there. 34 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I remember one day I was in middle school and 35 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: the teacher came running in and the middle school was 36 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: next to the high school, and they just locked everything down. 37 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Cops were all over the place because there were gang 38 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: wars and stuff like that, believe it or not. Yeah, 39 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: in the mountains of western North Carolina. So I when 40 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: I was quite young, I started studying the martial arts, 41 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: and I was very good at it. As a matter 42 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: of fact. You know, as I got older, I started 43 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: doing some wrestling in high school and I usually won. 44 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: And one day, when I was sixteen years old, I 45 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: went into this bookstore. This is right after I got 46 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: my driver's license so I could go wherever I wanted. 47 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: So I went to this bookstore in Asheville and they 48 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: had a big, nice section of martial arts books. So 49 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: as I was standing there perusing the books, there was 50 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: a woman who came in also to look at the books, 51 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: and she looked like she was maybe in her late 52 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: twenties or something like that, but she was wearing a gee, 53 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: which is, you know, like the robe with the belt 54 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: that somebody would put on to exercise martial arts. And 55 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: so we started talking to each other, and she brought 56 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: up the topic of chi chi. And I had heard 57 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: about she and read about she before when I was younger, 58 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't I never really had any kind of 59 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: a personal interaction with itch Key Prada. It's the idea 60 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: that there is some kind of a bio energy field 61 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: around your body, and that that field is connected to 62 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: your physical wellbeing, and that another person who has a 63 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 1: certain talent, certain skill, can take his or her chi 64 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: and sort of project it onto your body in various 65 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: ways in order to well kind of heal you or 66 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: clear your chakras or help you in some way. And 67 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: she started talking to me about all these chi exercises 68 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and she said, here, put your hand out, So I 69 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: put out my hand and then she held her right 70 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: hand over top of my hand and put her left 71 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: hand below my hand, and then she goes, all right, 72 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: are you ready? I said yeah, And in about two seconds, 73 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: it felt like my hand was in an oven. My 74 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: eyes lit up because I looked at her and I thought, 75 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: I understand people have body heat, but it's like she 76 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: flipped this switch, so to speak, and her bio energy 77 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: fieled and I felt this very significant heat and it 78 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: lasted for about ten seconds and then she shut it 79 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: off and I was like wow, and I was just 80 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: instantly amazed. That's one of the most That was one 81 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: of the most exciting moments of my life, to be 82 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: honest with you, to be you know, to experience something 83 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: like that at that age. And she started talking to 84 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: me about the reality of how you can train and 85 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: use this kind of energy field. And then of course 86 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: later on I ended up meeting Grandmaster Tom Cameron, who's 87 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: been on all these TV shows like Ripley's Believe it 88 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: or not, and we became friends, and he does these 89 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: demonstrations where he projects chi and can affect scientific instruments, 90 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: and he even goes so far as to do these 91 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: these demonstrations where he he appears to knock people down 92 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: without touching them. The reality of that is debatable, but 93 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I could do a whole show about Tom Cameron and 94 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: some of the amazing things that I was able to 95 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: document by working with him. And of course this idea 96 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: of having a human bio energy field especially appeals to 97 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: me because I've always been a big fan of Star 98 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Wars and it's it's similar in a way to the Force. 99 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: And you know, here, if you just look up the 100 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: Force on Wikipedia, it says the as a metaphysical, mysterious, 101 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and ubiquitous power. In the Star Wars fictional universe, characters 102 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: refer to the Force as an energy that interconnects all 103 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: living things in the universe, maintaining cosmic balance. Particularly force 104 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: sensitive characters, usually through rigorous, self disciplined training and mindfulness, 105 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: are able to connect to the Force and thus access 106 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and willed certain superpowers. You know, it's interesting because they 107 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: go on to say, and of course I wrote this 108 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: book called Use The Force, a Jedi's Guide to the 109 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Law of Attraction, which you can read for free if 110 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: you go to Joshua Peewarren dot com and just you'll 111 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: see the book cover there somewhere and just click on it, 112 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: and it's multiple languages. But it says here that that 113 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: when Lucas he interjected the Force into his work, that 114 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to quote awaken a certain kind of spirituality 115 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: end quote in young audiences, suggesting a belief in God, 116 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: without endorsing any specific religion. And it says he developed 117 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: the Force as a non denominational religious concept distilled from 118 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: the essence of all religions, premised on the existence of 119 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: God and distinct ideas of good and evil. Okay, well, 120 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: that's getting a little in depth here in terms of 121 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: how you make sense of all this. But you can 122 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: see again how that this concept was appealing to me 123 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: to think that we do have this subtle energy field, 124 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: and you might be able to control your field, and 125 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: you might be able to well improve your body, help 126 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: other people, heal other people, move object all that kind 127 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: of stuff. And of course, if you know, I grew 128 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: up in the Southern Baptist Church, and if any of 129 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: you have a Christian upbringing. Were actually in many many religions. 130 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: You've probably heard of the laying on hands. That's a 131 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: religious practice, and let's see, it's used as both a 132 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: symbolic and formal method of invoking the Holy Spirit, primarily 133 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: during baptisms and confirmations, healing services, blessings, an ordination of priests, ministers, elders, deacons, 134 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: and other church officers, along with a variety of other 135 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: church sacraments and holy ceremonies. And of course you know 136 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: the idea, and again this spans many different religions. There's 137 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: a whole list of them, and not they're even African 138 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: traditional medicine, Navajo religious ceremonies. It's not just a Christian thing. 139 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: The idea is that you can place your hands on 140 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: someone under certain circumstances and it's beneficial. It's a sacred thing, 141 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: some kind of power is being transmitted there. So all 142 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: of this kind of ties into this thing that I 143 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: started hearing about many many years ago called reiki and reiki. 144 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: If this is brand new to you, it's spelled r 145 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: ei ki. And there were people who would come to 146 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: me and say, oh, I'm a reiki master, So what 147 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: does that mean I say, oh, well, I can do this. 148 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: I can. I can give you this reiki session where 149 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:36,479 Speaker 1: you just relax and basically I will use my hands 150 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: to manipulate your energy field in a positive and therapeutic way. 151 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: And there have been times where people would give me like, 152 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a sixty second reiki sample, but 153 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think about that. Well, recently 154 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: I've had people emailing me saying, Josh, what exactly is 155 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the real deal with reiki? Can you do a deep 156 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: dive on this? So I was like, you know what, Yeah, 157 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: that's a good I think it's time I want to 158 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: go and get an actual, in depth reiki treatment from 159 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: a professional reiki person here in the Las Vegas area. 160 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: But before I do that, well, I'm going to share 161 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: with you some of the what I've learned so far 162 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: about the reality of this and how it may or 163 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: may not work. And then I'm going to ask some 164 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: of you to give me tips if you know anything 165 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: about like where I should go because I don't want 166 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: to go get a reiki treatment and it sucks. And 167 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: then I come on the show and be like, oh, 168 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Reiki's a bunch of baloney. I want to make sure 169 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: you know if I do it, I do it right. 170 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: So we're gonna do this deep dive into reiki and 171 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: if it might be able to actually help you and 172 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: me and all of us if we open our minds 173 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more than usual. Hey, do you like 174 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: this show? It's free and if you want me to 175 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: keep doing it, you gotta support it. Go to Joshua 176 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: Pwarren dot com. 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Welcome back to Strange Things. 192 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Call the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 193 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm your host, a wizard of weird, beaming into your 194 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 195 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver 196 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Gietato Zume. And I'm telling you I believe in this 197 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: bio energy force. I believe there is such a thing 198 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: as chi or key or prana or oregon. There are 199 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: different names for it and different aspects of it. But 200 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: what is the reality of walking into a studio a spa. 201 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure a place where someone says I have 202 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: trained in this, I'm a level this or level that 203 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: you just relax and I'm gonna wave my hands around 204 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: you here and you're gonna feel better after this. How 205 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: realistic is that? And look, I always like to do this. 206 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: Let me just go straight back to Wikipedia and tell 207 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: you what Wikipedia says. Now, well, you should understand something. 208 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Wikipedia is a convenient compendium of knowledge, and I think 209 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: Wikipedia is great if you are going to go and 210 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: look up kind of widely known mainstream facts like how 211 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: tall is Mount Rushmore or what year was Alexander the 212 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: Great born and when did he die? And you know 213 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that, especially old stuff. Wikipedia, however, despite their claims, 214 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: the way it's edited by people collaborating it is very, 215 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: very biased when it comes to at least three things. 216 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Number one is any kind of a current event. Number 217 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: two is anybody who is alive right now. And number 218 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: three is anything that whoever the editors are at any 219 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: given time, anything that they think does not fit within 220 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: the current superficial, mainstream scientific view, which is usually about 221 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, fifty years old, going back to the way 222 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: the world is supposed to work. So, in other words, 223 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: if anything that is paranormal or supernatural or even any 224 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean even things that involve spirituality and belief in God, 225 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: there's always like a bias against that stuff. It's a 226 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: very superficial, materialistic approach that's taken by the people who 227 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: choose to be to contribute to Wikipedia articles. And so 228 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: anytime you go and you look up any of these 229 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: strange things that I talk about, it's just like, oh, 230 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: this is bis and I mean it's like I don't 231 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: have a Wikipedia page which is fine with me. But 232 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: if somebody did create a Wikipedia page about me, it 233 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: would say, Oh, Joshua pe Warren, he is he is 234 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: a He's an insane man who makes dubious claims about 235 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: obvious pseudo scientific beliefs in ghosts and UFOs and psychic 236 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: activity and wishing machines. And he's just a horrible person. 237 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: You know. I think I'm gonna write my own Wikipedia 238 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: article and save them some time in trouble Someday that'd 239 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: be funny. I'm gonna get some friends and they're gonna 240 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: put together the most horrific Joshua p. Warren is the 241 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: biggest Well, I can't cuss on this show. Coast won't 242 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: let me. But anyway, bear that in mind because they 243 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: obviously take a very negative spin on reiki. Here's the 244 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: very first thing it says. Reiki is a pseudo scientific 245 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: form of energy healing, a type of alternative medicine originating 246 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: in Japan. Reiki practitioners use a technique called palm healing 247 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: or hands on healing, through which, according to practitioners, a 248 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: universal energy is transferred through the palms of the practitioner 249 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: to the client to encourage emotional or physical healing. It 250 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: is based on chi, which practitioners say as a universal 251 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: life force, although there is no empirical evidence that such 252 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: a life force exists. Okay, sure, yeah, how to we're 253 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: just running around here dancing and singing and telling jokes 254 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: without any kind of a life force involved at all. 255 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the article. Reiki is 256 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: used as an illustrative example of pseudoscience and scholarly text 257 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: and academic journals. The marketing of reiki has been described 258 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: as quote fraudulent misrepresentation and itself as a quote nonsensical method, 259 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: with a recommendation that the American government agency NCCAM should 260 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: stop funding reiki because it has no substantiated health value 261 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: and lacks a scientifically plausible rationale. Wow, they're not holding 262 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: back on Ricky, are they. Clinical research shows it as 263 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: not effective as a treatment for any medical condition. Blah 264 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: blah blah. All right, so I think you see they're 265 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: saying this is this article is saying there's nothing to 266 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: this the etymology. And by the way, I got an 267 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: email a while back from an unpleasant lady in my opinion, 268 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: who said, well, I think every time you say etymology, 269 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're saying entomology. Maybe it's just your 270 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Southern accent or whatever, but she's telling me entomology is 271 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: the study of insects and etomologists, like, I know that, 272 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: and maybe it is my Southern accent. But amazing that 273 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: people will take the time to email you something. The 274 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: etymology reiki comes from a combination of let's see Japanese 275 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: word rey r ei, which means universal, and key, which 276 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: means vital energy. Okay, so universal vital energy, simple enough, 277 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: and says Reiki's teachings and adherents claim that she is 278 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: a physiological force. It could be manipulated to treat a 279 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: disease or a condition. There is no evidence that she exists. 280 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: Reiki is thus classified as pseudoscientific. How many times is 281 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: it's going to say pseudoscientific? Then they of course they 282 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: refer to some skeptoid podcast, says technique. A session usually 283 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: lasts for approximately one hour. A Level one practitioner places 284 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: their hand or hands on or near various parts of 285 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: the body for several minutes. During this time, a vital 286 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: energy is meant to flow from the practition into the 287 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: client's body. Level two practitioners alternatively may offer their services 288 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: at a distance with no skin contact. That's interesting. We 289 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: will come back to that later. So they placed their 290 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: hands very lightly on you or just near you. It 291 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: seems like, so where did all this come from? Well, okay, 292 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: so Wikipedia says, here's what and again and again I'm 293 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: going to go back and I think clarifying correct some things. 294 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: But Wikipedia says that this man and I have no 295 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: idea how to pronounce his name, This Japanese man named 296 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: Mikhail Usui originated the practice in Japan, and he was 297 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: born in eighteen sixty five and he died in nineteen 298 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty six. And it says, according to the inscription on 299 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: his memorial stone, sue he taught his system of reiki 300 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: to more than two thousand people during his lifetime. And 301 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: then while teaching reiki and fukuyama, he suffered a stroke 302 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: and died. He was only sixty years old. Now that's 303 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: kind of interesting because this is a man who is practicing, 304 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, this healing art in his in his opinion, 305 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, he has a stroke and dies when he's sixty. 306 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: Now you might look at that and say, well, that's obvious, 307 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: as an obvious piece of evidence that this is not 308 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: working to help keep you healthy. But you also could 309 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: alternatively say that this guy had a limited amount of 310 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: chi he could tap into in his life, and he's 311 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: projecting it to thousands of people all the time. He's 312 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: giving his own life force away and cut his own 313 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: life short. I don't know which angle sounds more reasonable. 314 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: But does that mean that if you are a reiki 315 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: practitioner you're prone like not a reiki patient. But if 316 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: you're a practitioner, does that mean that you are prone 317 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: to die earlier? That would be an interesting study to 318 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: see if there is a list of reiki masters over 319 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: the past I don't know, fifty years or whatever it's 320 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: out there, and see how old they were where they died. 321 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Did they die at a young age because they were 322 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: giving up their life force for others? And then it 323 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: goes on to say the first reiki clinic in the 324 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: United States was started in nineteen seventy by a student 325 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: of mikail Usui. That man's name was The first was 326 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: started by okay It was started by a student of 327 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: a student. So basically, mikhao Usui had this student named 328 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Chujiro Hayashi, and then Chujiro Hyashi had a student who 329 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: really took it sort of more mainstream in nineteen seventy. 330 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is, so you have this progression of minute. 331 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: I know that you're probably not keeping up with this, 332 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: and that's totally fine. But what's interesting is that the 333 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: guy who they're saying came up with this, he taught 334 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: it to this other guy named Chujiro. And Chujiro died 335 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: when he was fifty nine, and he died of suicide. 336 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: He committed sepulcha. Now, why in the world did he 337 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: do that? So the disciple of the guy who invented 338 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: the guy who invented reiki died of a stroke when 339 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: he was sixty. His student who went on to popularize this, 340 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: committed suicide at fifty nine. We got to take a break. 341 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm gonna tell you why he 342 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: did this. It's a wild story, and then we're gonna 343 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: dig even deeper. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to 344 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 345 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be back after these 346 00:25:19,960 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things called the iHeartRadio 347 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, 348 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, and this is the show where the 349 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual. So they're saying here that the guy 350 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: who developed reiki as we know it was born in 351 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five and then in nineteen twenty six he 352 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: died of a stroke, and then he taught it. One 353 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: of his disciples was as this other guy named Chujiro Hayeshi, 354 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: and he was born in eighteen eighty. He died in 355 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: nineteen forty from sepeka, a Japanese form of ritual suicide seppuku, 356 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: and usually when a Japanese person commits sepucha, the person 357 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: takes a large knife or a sword and just disembowels 358 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: him or herself. It was originally reserved for samurai and 359 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: their code of honor. And now, of course that's a horrible, 360 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: horrible thought, isn't it to just take a take a 361 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: big blade and just cut your guts, you know, just 362 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: shove in there and slide it across your guts. But 363 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: sometimes I've I believe I've read that, you know, you 364 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: might have a buddy there with a big sword who 365 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: will just after you do that, go ahead and chop 366 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: your head off to prevent further suffering. And I thought, well, 367 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: why why did this guy who was like a stepping 368 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: stone and bringing reiki over toward the west, why did 369 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: he do that? And so I said, hey, Grok, because 370 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: it didn't say in the artist article why he did 371 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: Why would he do the groc You know my favorite 372 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: search engine now Grock, I said, why did this guy 373 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: commit suicide? Interesting? Says that he took his own life 374 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: on May eleventh, nineteen forty. The reasons for his decision 375 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: are rooted in a combination of cultural, personal, and historical factors. 376 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Says he was a retired naval officer and physician who 377 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: dedicated much of his later life to developing and spreading reiki, 378 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: including his own clinic. He went to Hawaii from nineteen 379 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: thirty seven to nineteen thirty eight, where he taught reiki 380 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: alongside a woman named Hawaiiu Takata, and this was a 381 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: significant moment in bringing reiki to the West. However, upon 382 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: returning to Japan, he faced a profound dilemma as World 383 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: War II loomed. The Japanese military, aware of his time 384 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: in Hawaii and his naval background, reportedly pressured him to 385 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: provide strategic information about millilitary targets such as warehouses and 386 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: installations in Honolulu ahead of the impending conflict with the 387 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: United States. As a pacifist who had embraced Reiki's healing 388 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: properties and principles, Hayashi was deeply opposed to participating in 389 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: war efforts or betraying the trust of those he had 390 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: taught and healed in Hawaii. So, refusing to comply with 391 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: the Japanese military's demands, he was labeled a trader, a 392 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: grave accusation, and that to honor bound culture and in 393 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: this context losing face, bringing shame to himself and family. 394 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: This was intolerable. So sepacha was offered as a way 395 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: to preserve his honor and avoid further dishonor So how 396 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: about that. So here is this guy who apparently I 397 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: guess he was in good shape, sounds like it anyway, 398 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: probably that they were asking him for some type of 399 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: participation and the war effort there, and he says, no, 400 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, and so he commits suicide. 401 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: But then his student was a woman named Hawaiio Takata, 402 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 1: Japanese American woman who was born in Hawaii and They 403 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: say that she was a huge part of actually popularizing 404 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: all the reiki stuff in the US, and says that 405 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: she actually lived to be a fairly fairly old lady. 406 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: She was born in nineteen hundred. She died in nineteen eighty, 407 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: so she was almost eighty years old. They say her 408 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: cause of death is not exactly known, but the grox 409 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: as some sources suggest that heart disease may have been 410 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: a factor. Thank you, all right, Now, this is sort 411 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: of like an overview I've given you of me trying 412 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: to understand, like where did this come from? And sort 413 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: of watch the story. But trust me, I'm not the 414 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of guy who does research just from what kind 415 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: of free stuff I can find on the web. Now, 416 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: if I want to do research, I go out. I'm 417 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: not a cheap scale. I spend money. I buy books. 418 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: I sometimes hire professional researchers to go and dig up 419 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: files for me from courthouses. And I mean, honestly, that's 420 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: how I grew up. When I was doing research writing 421 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: my book Haunt at Ashville, I spent tons of time 422 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: in the libraries and the courthouses and in special collections 423 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: and learning my way around that world to go, you know, 424 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: get authentic stuff. So here's one book that I bought. 425 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a reiki master book here, and 426 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: it's called Simply Enough Reiki for Beginners, The step by 427 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: step guide to unlock Reiki's self healing and aura cleansing 428 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: secrets for deep healing, peace of mind, and spiritual growth. 429 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: This is by someone named row heat Sahu, and I 430 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with this book or this author 431 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: or this publishing company. This is just something I bought 432 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: off of Amazon, like anybody else can, And I just 433 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: think it's interesting to go to what is supposed to be, 434 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, an authoritative guide from a reiki master. It 435 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: says here, have you ever sensed the calming vibe of 436 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: another person? May feel it may feel warm, comforting, and 437 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: very therapeutic. And have you ever felt the same energy 438 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: inside yourself, whether in times of peace or during yoga practice, 439 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: when you can sense your own life or it'swhirling within you. 440 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Reiki works similarly. It's a kind of energy healing that 441 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: goes back to the late eighteen hundreds, yet its advantages 442 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: easily apply to the modern world. Reiki is a compliment 443 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: reform of energy healing that originated in Japan. It is 444 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: a gentle but strong, hands on energy healing technique that 445 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: has grown in popularity over the past century. And then, 446 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: but here's something that's kind of interesting. Even though this 447 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: book starts out saying like the same thing that Wikipedia did, 448 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: that it goes back to the eighteen hundreds. Later on, 449 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: it says reiki's origins may be traced back to ancient 450 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: Chinese and Japanese medicine based on chi. It says people 451 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: have been practicing reiki for over twenty five hundred years. 452 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: So I guess that it's sort of like, you know, 453 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: the fella I was talking about, kind of focused on 454 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: it and branded it properly, and so they talked a 455 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: little bit about him in this book. Okay, So here's 456 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: something else that I didn't see online. Reiki principles. These 457 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: are five principles according to this book, and see if 458 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: you how do you feel about these five principles. Number one, 459 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: just for today, I release angry thoughts. Number two, just 460 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: for today, I release thoughts of worry. Number three, just 461 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: for today, I'm grateful. Number four, just for today, I 462 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: expand my consciousness. And number five, just for today, I'm 463 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: gentle with all beings. Number six is tomorrow, I'm going 464 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: to beat the crap out of everybody. I'm joking. So 465 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: sounds nice, doesn't it. You think you could do that 466 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: just for a day. Focus on the reminds you of 467 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: the hippono pono, which, of course all also is interesting 468 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: because it comes from Japanese roots, and so there's a 469 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: there's a great similarity perhaps in the way that the 470 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: Japanese culture treats their envisioning of the physical reiki energy, 471 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: and how that treats all of this as a as 472 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: a mental experience. Another section of the book, I Mark says, 473 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: there is a totally non physical component of you that 474 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: you may refer to as your spirit or soul. This 475 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: is the everlasting higher portion of you. It is a 476 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: multi dimensional and exists beyond the three dimensional realm in 477 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: which your body resides. Soul connects you to higher realms 478 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: such as creation, source, God, and divinity. The soul is 479 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: in charge of inherent abilities such as inspiration, intuition, creativity, love, compassion, kindness, 480 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: and humility. And the last thing I'll read you from 481 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: this because I can't read the whole book myths. It 482 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: says myth number one, reiki is a form of massage, 483 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: and they say that this does not that's a myth 484 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: because reiki does not intel bone or tissue manipulation. Healers 485 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: employ a gentle touch with their hands on their shoulders 486 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: or over the completely clothed bodies of their guests. They say. 487 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: Another myth is that reiki is a new age practice 488 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: with no scientific basis, and they say that they provide 489 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: their argument against that. They say. Another myth is that 490 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: it's very complicated practice. They say, no, it's not. Another 491 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: myth reiki is capable of curing anything. They say, it's 492 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: not a cure for anything. It just aids in the 493 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: induction of relaxation, response, and promotion of a mind body 494 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: balance favorable to healing. Another myth is that the benefits 495 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: of reiki are instantly felt. It says it can take 496 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: more than a single therapy session. So anyway, those are 497 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: some of the the myths. And they also say a 498 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: myth is giving reiki to others will deplete my energy. Oh, 499 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: there you go. They're saying that's a myth as well. 500 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, this book is called Reiki for Beginners, 501 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: And when we come back, I'm going to wrap up 502 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: this Reiki conversation, and then I got an email from 503 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: a listener that I want to share with you about 504 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: something that happened during a snowstorm that I don't know. 505 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of cool, maybe a little bit eerie. And 506 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: then I might also have some time for some mental 507 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: man out. Why do you think actors say to each other? 508 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Break a leg? I'm Joshua Pete Warren. You're listening to 509 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 510 00:37:42,560 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: para normal podcast network, and I'll be right back. Welcome 511 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: back to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things, 512 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast Network. 513 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. And I received 514 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of emails every week, and I do my 515 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: best to read every single one of them, but it 516 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: would be impossible for me to reply to all of them. 517 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: Having said that, I do want to go get a bonafide, 518 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: credible reiki session to report back to you on. And 519 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: so if you really know you know the behind the 520 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: scenes on reiki and like what I should be looking for. 521 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: I live in Las Vegas. I would like to visit 522 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: somebody in the Las Vegas area. Email me and let 523 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: me know what I should be looking for to find 524 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: somebody credible so that I can have the best experience 525 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: possible and not go get like scammed somewhere and come 526 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: back and give it like a bad review. And also, 527 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it is very weird. They do say in 528 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: some of these books and whatnot that there are people 529 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: who can practice reiki long distance. And that is where 530 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people say, Okay, that ends my suspension 531 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: of disbelief. I can't go that far. But he goes 532 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: back to what I was saying about how we define 533 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, legitimate science these days, because if you talk 534 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: to quantum physicists, they will tell you the craziest stuff 535 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: you've ever heard is real. You know, entanglement, non locality cats, 536 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, Schrodinger's cat, I mean, Heisenberg uncertainty theory 537 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: in a principle, all that stuff. So hey, look, you 538 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: got you gotta have a very open mind and just 539 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: try things out. And look if I go and have 540 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: an experience and it doesn't work at least, oh no, 541 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: and I'll have something that I can talk about. So 542 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: shoot me an email. Go to Joshua Pwarren dot com. 543 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: Scroll down at the bottom and you will find my 544 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: email address. Here is an interesting email that I received 545 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: from a woman named Susan Bossman, and this is about 546 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,479 Speaker 1: incident that happened in Germantown, Wisconsin in nineteen seventy nine. 547 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: She said, I was driving home in a blizzard at 548 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: night as I approached an intersection where a tavern, an 549 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: old log cabin, a church, and an old cemetery were located. 550 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: I was out in the country where three roads cross. 551 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: The snow was almost blinding, but I could see the 552 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: outline of a person waving his arms up and down frantically. 553 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: I thought the person was trying to warn me that 554 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: there was an accident at the intersection. If this was 555 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: the case, I needed to help out. As we were 556 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere, I pulled my car quickly 557 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: over to the side and it slid into the ditch. 558 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: I was scared, but I knew I could run to 559 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: the accident scene to get some help. I hurried over 560 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: to the intersection in the deep deep snow to find 561 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: there was snow man, not even footprints, just silence and 562 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: the flake's falling snow. I was enraged as I felt 563 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: someone had played a senseless trick on me. I went 564 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: back to my car and was able to rock it 565 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: back and forth to get it out of the ditch. 566 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: A decade later, I attended a church in the same 567 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: intersection for the grand opening of a museum of local history, 568 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: and taped to the front door was a news article 569 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: from approximately five years earlier saying that motorists should be 570 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: aware of a ghost who plays with the traffic in 571 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: the intersection. For ten years, I had been mad, thinking 572 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: some mean person had played a trick on me that 573 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: winter's night. This ghost allegedly also ventures into a tavern 574 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: in the intersection and throws dishes around. After reading this article, 575 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: I was almost embarrassed that I'd been so angry at 576 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: the stranger, now knowing it was a ghost. Well, thank 577 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: you for that report, Susan. And hey, well your anger 578 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: was warranted because that's a mean ghost. The ghost should 579 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: not have done that to you. Makes you wonder, though, 580 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: is this a conscious ghost that's playing a trick or 581 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: is it an imprint of some kind. Some of the 582 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: most haunted places I've investigated are theaters where you have 583 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: live actors who have performed on stage in some cases 584 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: for decades or even centuries, and I think they get 585 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: up on stage and they create this. They imagine things 586 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: so vividly, they create some kind of a tulpa. And 587 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: when I was in high school, going back to how 588 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: much I did not enjoy much of my high school experience, 589 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: even though I mean I was I had a lot 590 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: of friends, I was well liked. I just hated a 591 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: feeling confined. And I've always had a problem with condescending 592 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: authority figures. But I liked opportunities to do creative things 593 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: and escape from it. And so I got involved with theater, 594 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: and I would do plays when I was in high school, 595 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: and I learned pretty early on that it was bad 596 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: luck to talk well, to say the word Macbeth in 597 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: a movie theater. I'm sure some of you know that. 598 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: Instead you say, oh, the Scottish play and the Scottish 599 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: play or the Bard's play. Those are what they call 600 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: them euphemisms. Words you would say instead of saying Macbeth. 601 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, William Shakespeare's play Macbeth. And the reason is that, 602 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: according to theatrical superstition called the Scottish curse, speaking the 603 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: name Macbeth inside a theater other than has called for 604 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: in the script while rehearsing or performing will cause disaster. 605 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: And apparently this goes back to the fact that, well, 606 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen Macbeth, but it's 607 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: Macbeth is about partly about a coven of witches, and 608 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: the traditional origin is said to be a curse that 609 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: was put on the play by a coven of witches 610 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: angry at Shakespeare for using a real spell in his play. 611 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: And one hypothesis for the origin of this superstition is 612 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: that Macbeth, being a popular play, was commonly put on 613 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: by theater as in financial trouble, or that the high 614 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: production cost of Macbeth put theaters in financial trouble, and 615 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: hence an association was made between productions of Macbeth and 616 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: theaters going out of business. That's interesting, isn't it. And 617 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: there are even places where this has taken so seriously 618 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: that when the name of the play is spoken in 619 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: a theater, tradition requires the person who spoke it has 620 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: to leave perform a cleansing ritual and then be invited 621 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: back in, and those rituals ward off the evil that 622 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: uttering the play's name is feared to bring on and 623 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: that's true. I've been in theater enough to know that 624 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: that's true. In some places, that's taken very seriously, and 625 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: I started, I don't know. I was thinking about that 626 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: idea the other day that it's how interesting is it 627 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: that Shakespeare, he's a mysterious guy anyway in history, that 628 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: he may have somehow observed or come across this real 629 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: witch's spell that he had adapted into his play, and 630 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: that was like such a betrayal to those witches that 631 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: they put this curse on him. But there's a lot 632 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: of superstition, like, for example, for good luck, you often 633 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 1: say to an actor or a similar performer, break a leg, 634 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: and that's supposed to bring on good luck. Now why 635 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: is that? You know? If you look it up and 636 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: you start digging into it, there's no one solid, good, 637 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: proven explanation. One person here, let's see, who was an 638 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: expert on superstitions, wrote this published it in nineteen twenty 639 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: one in a British magazine. The stage is perhaps the 640 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: most superstitious institution in England, after the race course. The 641 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: latter is so superstitious that to wish a man luck 642 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: on his way to a race is considered unlucky. Instead 643 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: of saying good luck, you should say something insulting, such as, 644 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: may you break your leg? So they were so concerned 645 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: possibly that saying something good would jinx it, that you 646 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: would say the opposite. But it may be more like this. 647 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: Here's another resource that I found that's also kind of interesting. 648 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this before, and I doubt you 649 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: have either. One of the more common theories about why 650 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: you say break a leg refers to the early days 651 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: of the theater, when the actors were cue to perform. 652 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: There is a line called a leg line, and if actors, 653 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: it's like an imaginary line on the stage. If the 654 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: actors were not performing, they had to stay behind the 655 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: leg line, which also meant they would not get paid. 656 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: But if you were to tell the actor break a leg, 657 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: then you were wishing them an opportunity to step across 658 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: that line to perform and get paid. So the sentiment 659 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: remains the same today, the term means good luck, give 660 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: a good performance. That kind of makes more sense to me, actually, 661 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: that there is this boundary because you know, everything is 662 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: worked out in rehearsal, and if you get that chance 663 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: to break through, well, you break a leg. All right, 664 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: my friends, here it is Relax. Listen to the good 665 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: Fortune tone. That's it for this edition of the show. 666 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: Follow me at Joshua P. Warren, Plus visit Joshua Pwarren 667 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up for my free e newsletter 668 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: to receive a free instant gift, and check out the 669 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop. 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