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Speaker 1: This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is

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Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports.

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Speaker 2: What you doing, man? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Bros? The Boys were back together?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're you man, Look at looking at you. I

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Speaker 2: haven't I haven't seen you, like talking to you since

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Speaker 2: you got the new teeth, Man, you look incredible.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know all the all the.

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Speaker 4: Redskins teammates and friends and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Just just heckle me, dude, because obviously I had the old,

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Speaker 3: the old, the old Blitz package running into my mouth

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Speaker 3: back in the day.

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Speaker 2: The best thing about it is you're smiling now more,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So I know, I know, like I love doing it too.

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Speaker 3: It's probably the best investment I've ever made. It's fixing

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Speaker 3: these teeth, man.

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Speaker 2: How long so you need? Uh?

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Speaker 3: I got them in the summer of twenty eighteen, so

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Speaker 3: right before like I was with the Titans and Ots

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Speaker 3: and then ratro OTAs I got him.

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Speaker 2: Any problems with them, No.

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Speaker 4: Not really.

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Speaker 3: Like the only thing that sucks is like, so you'll

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Speaker 3: get temporaries that you put in and they're not like

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Speaker 3: individual veneers. It's like a it's like an entire set, right,

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Speaker 3: So you got to wear those for like two weeks

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Speaker 3: and so eating and stuff, and you could kind of

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Speaker 3: feel them shipted around, not like big, but you could

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Speaker 3: feel it to where you.

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Speaker 4: Were just nervous the whole time.

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Speaker 3: Like I remember I was in the I was in

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Speaker 3: the chair, the dental chair, and I was like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, guys. I'm super scared to do this.

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Speaker 3: And everybody was telling me like not to like, dude

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Speaker 3: as your personality this and then I'm like, dude, fuck

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Speaker 3: the personality, like I need I want a better smile.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, uh. I told the doc. I

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Speaker 3: was like, man, if I don't like this, are you able?

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Speaker 3: Because they shave him down to like little any biddy

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Speaker 3: like vampire teeth, like I look ridiculous, and then they

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Speaker 3: put the veneer caps on him. I was like, if

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Speaker 3: I don't like it, because you shave and trim my

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Speaker 3: teeth the veneers back to what my teeth used to

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Speaker 3: look like. And he was like, He's like, I promise

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Speaker 3: you're gonna like him, but yes, if you are that uncomfortable,

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Speaker 3: I will shave him back down to your original chip

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Speaker 3: tooth and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: He was like joking on.

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Speaker 2: Me, that's man. Yeah, you look, you look amazing. You know,

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Speaker 2: thank you to secure men so we can say that,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, thanks man, Yo.

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Speaker 3: I always look at and it's always when d Y

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Speaker 3: hits me up. D Y He'll reach out, like just

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Speaker 3: say what's up every now and then a few times

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Speaker 3: a year, and I'll always like my first response is

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Speaker 3: sending him the video. And when me, you and him

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Speaker 3: were in uh was it your car or his car

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Speaker 3: when we were driving to the Gaylord Hotel to make

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Speaker 3: like weaving through following like the ambulance and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Like I'll never forget that, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it was was that when we were in

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Speaker 2: uh Man, that's when they had like a really bad

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Speaker 2: traffic jam. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was like it was like the ball that they

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Speaker 3: had I think for like uh the military, right.

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Speaker 4: Remember they wanted the ball every year, like during Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Time and traffic stuff. It was like it was chaotic

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Speaker 2: and you definitely didn't want to be late to a meeting.

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Speaker 4: No, never wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wasn't he bro He's one of my favorite teammates

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Speaker 3: of all time, dude, And you like you don't start

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Speaker 3: thinking about that stuff until like you know, your years

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Speaker 3: and you get to kind of sit back and reflect

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Speaker 3: and you're like, man, this stuff just doesn't last forever.

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Speaker 3: So you like appreciate all those like friendships that you

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Speaker 3: had that you're like, I wish I would have just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's crazy because if you look

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Speaker 3: Right, Right. It's same with like college too, Like you

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Speaker 3: get a couple of years of moved, but you still

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Speaker 3: that are selling the team that you're root for. Yep.

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Speaker 3: And then when it gets to like you don't even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel like a foreigner, you know. Yeah, Taylor

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Speaker 2: and I used to used to go back a bunch,

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Speaker 2: but then obviously you know everything that happened there, uh,

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Speaker 2: and the guys start disappearing. You don't know anyone so

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Speaker 2: you just become like a fan, like I'm sure, yeah, Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: Now, not all fans have a statue. Man's got a statue.

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Speaker 3: Man's got a statue, rightfully. So though, Bro, you were

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Speaker 3: a stun in college. And we'll get to that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But before we get in all that, like, how you been, dude? Like,

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Speaker 3: obviously we'reng for those listening. I don't know when this

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Speaker 3: episode's going to drop, but for everybody listening. RG and

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Speaker 3: I were talking basically the week the Monday, right after

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Speaker 3: on behalf of the George Floyd incident incident, and uh

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Speaker 3: so Rob and I are talking now RG, we'll call

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Speaker 3: them all the fun stuff. But so when I asked

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Speaker 3: him that, that's kind of what I'm referring to. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is gonna come out, I

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Speaker 3: don't know when it's going to but to give people context,

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Speaker 3: how you been, dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean personally, you know, aside from everything that's

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Speaker 2: going on in America, I've been. I've been. I've been okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, I actually got stuck in California. Uh

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Speaker 2: you know, we went out there in you know, February.

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Speaker 2: And then COVID hit in March and we were stuck.

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Speaker 2: So we got stuck out there, didn't really know what

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Speaker 2: Just so we were in an airbnb out there. So

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Speaker 2: It was. It was great, beautiful scene scenior, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just like the world is just in chaos right now. Man.

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Speaker 3: It's oh, I know, man, it's just it just sucks.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like you I've had conversations over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like you reach out to like your friends and you're trying.

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Speaker 3: And stuff like that. You're just kind of trying to

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Speaker 3: Like I hate it. And then on top of it,

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Speaker 3: you see some good protesting going on, you see bad

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Speaker 3: pandemic is still going on too?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, uh, you know, to be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, you know, I got to say for you man,

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Speaker 2: like I appreciate you, appreciate your voice. I saw what

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Speaker 2: just you know, turn a blind eye to what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I think in this country, for the longest we've liked,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like we're not you know, like it's people

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Speaker 3: bring up some photo it's like, okay, like we're not

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Speaker 2: We're not segregated systematically that way. I think that people

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Speaker 2: and systematic racism, how it's built in that way, and

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that, but the what we're seeing

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Speaker 3: Course, absolutely, but absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is pain from hundreds of years of

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Speaker 2: It's it's no one's talking about it, no one's doing

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Speaker 2: feels like this is the opportunity to try to actually

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Speaker 2: It's going to take time. People are don't have to vote,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have to We're gonna have to try to

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Speaker 2: take down the system by voting in the right people.

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Speaker 2: But it's going to take people like yourself who aren't

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Speaker 2: who aren't afraid to speak up publicly. And and it's

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Speaker 2: it's not just doing it one time. It's not just

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Speaker 2: doing it for you know, your brand or to look good,

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Speaker 2: so they can't say you didn't say something, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's some some brands aren't saying anything because they're nervous

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Speaker 3: about what the ownership might say. Hey, like, stay out

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Speaker 3: of this sticky I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And you know, they've always preached that when we came

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Speaker 2: like you're going to scorch the earth right. And this

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. It's like people can be like

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Speaker 2: grew up in the segregation times. Football for him and

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Speaker 2: sports for him was a place where he didn't feel

433
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Speaker 2: that that hatred. Right, those white people back then, or

434
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: or non black people back then, felt a certain type

435
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 2: of bond because they were all in it for a

436
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: common goal, right to win. Now, I go play basketball

437
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: and I got, you know, four white guys on my team.

438
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: You know, the stereotype is that all of them can shoot, right,

439
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 2: but it doesn't that doesn't matter. The point is that

440
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 2: me and those other four guys, we're all trying to

441
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Speaker 2: win that game. So you overlook where you came from.

442
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Speaker 3: You.

443
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: Overlook how much money you have. You overlook all these

444
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Speaker 2: things that that uh that are that are what I say,

445
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: qualifiers for for inequality. And you're all trying to accomplish

446
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: that goal. So you're willing to do whatever it takes, right,

447
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: shoot the three, pass the ball, die for the ball,

448
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Speaker 2: you know, go into triple overtime, whatever you have to

449
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: do to win that game. And when he said that,

450
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, like, how do we get society to

451
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Speaker 2: that point to where we see it? We're all in

452
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: it for the same reason, right, people are going to

453
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: have their own views on wealth, right, and who has

454
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Speaker 2: all the wealth, who doesn't have all the wealth and

455
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Speaker 2: earning potential in this and taxes whatever. Those are all

456
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Speaker 2: political issues. But the fact that we're trying we should

457
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Speaker 2: all be in this together to try to get towards

458
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Speaker 2: equality and to try to get towards justice. To me

459
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Speaker 2: that we should all be on the same team there.

460
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Speaker 2: We should all be willing to do whatever it takes

461
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Speaker 2: to get to that. Equality doesn't mean that me and

462
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Speaker 2: you have the same amount of money. It means that

463
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Speaker 2: me and you have the same opportunity. Right now, as

464
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: an athlete, you know that's not always the case, right,

465
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Speaker 2: I was, I was drafted. You weren't. You weren't drafted.

466
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Speaker 3: But oh yeah, conversation right, right?

467
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Speaker 2: But who still have had? In football terms, your skill

468
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: determined your opportunity, right, My skill determined my opportunity in

469
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: that position. Now, is there you know, inequality and injustice

470
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: and sports? Yes there is? But is it anywhere to

471
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,560
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472
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Speaker 2: how do we get society to join on the same

473
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474
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475
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476
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477
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Speaker 2: White people, it's not just Asian Americans, it's not just

478
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479
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480
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481
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Speaker 3: One thing that you were mentioning earlier and I actually

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Speaker 3: have written down is one of the things that I

527
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Speaker 3: jumped out to me when I was researching your background

528
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Speaker 3: is you were born in Japan.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were born and you.

530
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 3: Said it earlier your parents they served in the military.

531
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Speaker 3: You come from a military family. Talk about being born

532
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Speaker 3: in Japan and kind of moving around where being what

533
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Speaker 3: do they call it, like being.

534
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Speaker 4: Like a military child? Is that really sticking anywhere?

535
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Speaker 2: Oh?

536
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Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on, Alex says, hang on. He says, uh,

537
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Speaker 3: he thinks I'm using my AirPods, Mike, if I can

538
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Speaker 3: find a stopping point, check and switch if necessary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried not to interrupt during the that whole

540
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Speaker 2: talk because that was so important obviously that I flowed right,

541
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Speaker 2: But I figured if you're gonna switch over now, this

542
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: would be a good time for you to take a

543
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Speaker 2: look and make sure because I think you are on AirPods.

544
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Speaker 3: Mike, I am, I am, I see it.

545
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Speaker 4: It's microphone right.

546
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Speaker 2: Yes, how now can you hear me, beautiful? Make sure

547
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Speaker 2: you restate the question before you start back again, if

548
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Speaker 2: you could.

549
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Speaker 1: I will, I will my bet RG.

550
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Speaker 2: Oh No, you're good, you're good.

551
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Speaker 1: You know, as man athletes trying to figure all this

552
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Speaker 1: stuff out there.

553
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Speaker 3: But uh, one thing that jumped out to me when

554
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 3: researching your background was that you were born in Japan.

555
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: And uh, you said it earlier, like alluding to your

556
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: parents being you were in a military family. Talk about

557
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Speaker 3: being like a military child and moving around and just

558
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: knowing that you were born in Japan made me laugh.

559
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what the what was born in Japan? How

560
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: long were you there?

561
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: So I was there in Japan for two and a

562
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: half years, So for me, I don't remember it, but

563
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: we got the pictures, we got the videos and everything.

564
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: You know, I know you're trying to be politically correct,

565
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: but the proper term for a military military brad, right,

566
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: that's that's what it called military band. And you know,

567
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: my parents being in the military me the discipline, sacrifice.

568
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: You saw it, right, every single day when we went

569
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: to war, my mom and dad, my dad. My mom

570
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: was out by that time and my dad you know,

571
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: had to go over and be deployed. And I saw

572
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Speaker 2: a lot of my friends' parents and you know, aunts

573
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: and uncles not come back because of that. So it

574
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: was really tough growing up as a military brat, having

575
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Speaker 2: to move around. But like I said, the things that

576
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: teaches you how to you know, gel in different groups. Right,

577
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Speaker 2: So in Japan, obviously that's that's a pretty you know,

578
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: diverse group. Here I'm on a military base, so it's

579
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Speaker 2: not like I'm.

580
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I feel you.

581
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: We're on a military base. You got you got people

582
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Speaker 2: of color, you got white people, you got Asian people.

583
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: And we moved a bunch, moved early on, moved to Colorado.

584
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: I lived in Alabama, lived in New Orleans, Louisiana, but

585
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Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to settle in Copperscote, Texas before

586
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: for grade. And I went through my whole schooling in

587
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Speaker 2: that same city.

588
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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.

589
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: That was That was a blessing because usually I had

590
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Speaker 2: a lot of friends move away. And the one thing

591
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: you hate is when you like move away like junior high,

592
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: high school time, and you know, because you got to

593
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: like sports is such a big you know, most sports

594
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: team sports, so most of them are like really big

595
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Speaker 2: on the camaraderie, and you don't want to be the

596
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Speaker 2: new kid who comes in as a sophomore at the

597
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Speaker 2: high school. Now you got to oh, man, the coach's

598
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Speaker 2: son is the quarterback, and like, you don't want to

599
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: do that. So I was I was blessed enough to

600
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Speaker 2: go through that whole time. And you know, to this day,

601
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: high school football is probably still the most fun I've

602
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: ever had in my life because the game with all

603
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Speaker 2: the guys that you grew up with from like you know, kindergarten,

604
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: first grade, people that you've seen develop and uh, you know,

605
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: I was obviously oblivious. I thought all my high school

606
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: teammates were going to go to the NFL.

607
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Speaker 1: So no, I know, right, you think a you know,

608
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Speaker 1: college like for sure.

609
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Speaker 2: Then you get to college and you're like, oh my gosh,

610
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: there's a six eight, three hundred and fifty pound offensive lineman.

611
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: I had none of those in high school.

612
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, and you don't quite know what you're

613
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Speaker 1: doing about.

614
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: The high school center. He was five to seven. He

615
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: was five to seven, two hundred and twenty five pounds,

616
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, you're going d one and he's

617
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Speaker 2: probably like, you know, looking at me like you're crazy,

618
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Speaker 2: and I get it now.

619
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Speaker 1: But it was.

620
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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun, and being a military

621
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: kid taught me a lot of things. It taught me

622
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Speaker 2: how to mess in jail with a bunch of different

623
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Speaker 2: people in different groups and try to understand it from

624
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Speaker 2: everybody's perspective. A lot of times I found myself being

625
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: the new kid and having to try to find my

626
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: way in each different community, and I think that's helped

627
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Speaker 2: me with how I've led, how I've been able to

628
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Speaker 2: be a good teammate in different places that I've been,

629
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Speaker 2: and you know, just be a better all around.

630
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Speaker 1: Person, no doubt.

631
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Speaker 3: Like I fel like, if you're like a military brat,

632
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: to be politically correct, you have like some of those

633
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: you have, like those foundational things, those foundational values that

634
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: you know, you just can't teach all the time unless

635
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: you're like in, unless you have those parents are around

636
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Speaker 3: that environment constantly.

637
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think that I think that piggybacks

638
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: off what you were saying, like from where you grew

639
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: up and and how that was. I went to you know,

640
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: I went to Baylor University, and no one's gonna say

641
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: that that's like a melting pop. You know, it's a

642
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: private school. It's a private Baptist school. And I believe

643
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: over seventy percent of the of the students that go

644
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Speaker 2: to Baylor are a Caucasian. You know we're talking about.

645
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Speaker 1: I mean said, shoot, same with Nebraska.

646
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Speaker 3: I mean people are probably in Nebraska like, Okay, Will,

647
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Speaker 3: did you really get out of bond Ter, Missouri.

648
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Speaker 1: It's like I guess I'm thinking like.

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Speaker 3: In locker room terms, you know what I'm saying, like,

650
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: in your locker room, you got dues from Florida, Cali,

651
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: New York, all over.

652
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sports is like the equaliser. You know, if

653
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: it's not split down the middle, it's probably favoring you know,

654
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: minorities to be To be honest, at Nebraska, bayl or

655
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I still remember you walk around campus.

656
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: I go to class, right, there might be you know,

657
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: if it's a small class, say like you know, thirty

658
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: forty kids, there might be five black people in college.

659
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: But you go to the area where all the athletes are. Yeah,

660
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, like so like it's it was crazy to

661
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: see that. And you meet people, You meet people who

662
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: have never hung around uh, minorities of any kind because

663
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: where they live at it is so just one color, right.

664
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: And I ran to my wife. My wife's from Estonia

665
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: and they don't have any black exactly.

666
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: I don't care, man, I'm not Anteoni.

667
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: Is in the Baltics, so uh, Norway a lot via

668
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: And I say this when last because don't ever say

669
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: this to an Estonian. But Russia, they're right next to Russia,

670
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: and Estonians and Russians don't really get along because Russia

671
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: has has conquered Estonia a couple of times. So, so

672
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: just anyone, don't ever call my wife Russian. Don't.

673
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's kind of like Russian then hunt like no.

674
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: So, but I ran into it with her, like there's

675
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: no black people. She didn't grow up with that those

676
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: types of people in her life every day. But she

677
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: came over to to the United States for college, went

678
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: to Florida State. She went to Tallahassee, Florida, which is

679
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: one of the blackest places in all of America. Yeah,

680
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: she got a crash course on black history by going

681
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: to by going to college, and it's opened her eyes

682
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: because from what she saw back at home to what

683
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: she sees now in America. Uh, you know, to her,

684
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: it's obvious that there's racism here. But to the people

685
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: who are here all the time, they're like, ah, no,

686
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: that's not that he was he was resisting. You know,

687
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: there was this, there was that, But hers like that

688
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: there's no excuse for it. And I think that, you know,

689
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with the fact that where you grew up,

690
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong that, you know, you being more comfortable

691
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: with someone who looks like you than someone who doesn't.

692
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: I think that is natural. I think where the problem

693
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: comes in is when people are uncomfortable with someone based

694
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: off of stereotype and they use that against them in

695
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: a way that diminishes their ability to either make a

696
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: living or just walk around freely. You know, I don't

697
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: want to be paid to go on a job, you know,

698
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I heard you talking about it

699
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: with the man who got gunned down for going on

700
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: a jog, and they're like, oh, well he was looking

701
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: in a in an unbuilt house before or he got.

702
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, like and.

703
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: Like, who hasn't done that?

704
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: Right?

705
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: Like this this house here from a mom. There's houses

706
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: that are being built. It's a new bill community, and

707
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: we've gone in those houses and looked at him that

708
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: aren't finished. Does that mean that now if I go

709
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: jog a little bit, I should get gunned down? Like

710
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: come on, like he's not stealing anything, and people.

711
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: No doubt, dude, that's that's yeah.

712
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: I was like to justify behavior, and it's like that

713
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: doesn't pass the common sense to us, you.

714
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 3: Know, right right like you I've you know, I've done

715
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: that stuff too, And I wasn't like what did I say?

716
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I said?

717
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: I like the topped in the car like it was

718
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: a grand theft auto or something like, Yo, this is

719
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: in a video game, dude.

720
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's it doesn't make sense. But to get

721
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: back to the to the overall point is that it

722
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you grew up right, right, And just

723
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: because you don't see people that that don't look like

724
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: you where you grow up, h it doesn't mean that

725
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: when you go to college or when you go somewhere

726
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: that you can't learn something new. And I think that's

727
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: what it is. You just have to be willing to learn.

728
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: And and just because something doesn't affect you particularly or

729
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: your kids or your family, it doesn't mean that it's

730
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: not going on. And I think that that's that's the point.

731
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not I'm not wanting you to get

732
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: pulled over by the cops and then to fear for

733
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: your life. I don't I don't want you to feel that.

734
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want you to feel that fear.

735
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: I don't want I'm not saying that you deserve that.

736
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm saying that people that look like me don't deserve that.

737
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: Can you Can you at least agree with that? Can

738
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: you at least help me move forward some type of

739
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: winda to get that to be eliminated. And I think

740
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: that's that's a big part of it. But you're right,

741
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't grow up with those experiences,

742
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: so they just don't think it's really happening.

743
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: Right right, It's like take the glasses off and put

744
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: on somebody else's glass. It's like you can't really take

745
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: your lens off, like you're going to have your own

746
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: filter regardless.

747
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: But it's like being.

748
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: Super curious and like, you know, seeking to understand where

749
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: the person across from you is coming from about something

750
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: because I'm not I'm not. I'm not like you were

751
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: saying too, like we're not disappointed where we grew up.

752
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: I love that I grew up where I grew up,

753
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: and I get to have this story to kind of

754
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: share that, like, hey, you know, I've had all of

755
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: these experiences along the way. Here's where I am now

756
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: getting to with just different things like shout out bon

757
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: ter Missouri dude. But but like, yeah, being curious, like

758
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: you're everyone's gonna have their own filter because they've they

759
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: nobody can help where they grew up.

760
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: But like you're saying, like you know.

761
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: Seek that curiosity factor that you know, you're trying to

762
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: understand someone else's perspective and listen and you know grow

763
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

764
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you I agree with you. It's it's almost impossible

765
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: for someone to really take their lens off, right. Whenever

766
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: you hear the saying walk a mile in someone else's shoes, yeah,

767
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: you can put their shoes on, but you're still gonna

768
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: be walking halfway with your own mindset, right, Right, So,

769
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: if you've never experienced injustice to the level of the

770
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: African American community or people of color in general, you're

771
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: not really gonna understand it. But you can't go into

772
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: that conversation with a jaded view like it's not happening,

773
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: Like it's in front of you and it's been happening

774
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: for hundreds of years. You can't just say, oh, it's

775
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: not happening, it doesn't exist, it does, you know. You know.

776
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Stereotypes are like a huge problem all around the world, right, I.

777
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: Know, But like the stereotypes too, it's like it's it's

778
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: it's it's sensitive in like this topic that we're talking about.

779
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: But I've always enjoyed a good stereotype for jokes. Every

780
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: now and then being in a locker room like I'm

781
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm scared saying that.

782
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: On the locker room jokes if people heard locker room jokes.

783
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: On me, Oh, bro, we have so much fun in there, bro.

784
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: But it's uh. Stereotypes have a problem for a long

785
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: time forever, right. Those stereotypes are what lead to people

786
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: feeling certain ways about things. Right. So I was talking

787
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: about if I go on a basketball court and I

788
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: roll up with this team and you know, we're called

789
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: the White Chocolates or something, and I got two or

790
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: three two or three Caucasian teammates, everybody's guarding them at

791
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: the three point line, right, But nobody's guarded me at

792
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: the three point line because they think, Oh, he's African American,

793
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: he can jump, he's a dunker, he's a slasher. This

794
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: Caucasian gal here is a shooter. Now, I'm not saying

795
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: that that that doesn't work out that way sometimes, right,

796
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: Like JJ Reddick is a hell of a shooter, Kyle

797
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: Korb is an of a shooter, and Lebron James is

798
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: one of the best slashers of all time. But it

799
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that everybody is like that, right.

800
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt.

801
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: But if you rolled up and if you rolled up

802
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: in bond Te, Missouri at a pick up basketball game,

803
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: I'm sitting, Hey, I want him on my team.

804
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: And what's your name? Man, RG three, you can you can.

805
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: Be on my team. So what I'm saying it's not

806
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: that those stereotypes don't sometimes end up being true. It's

807
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: just when it's in the negative, like that's when it's like,

808
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: oh man, we gotta we gotta try to overcome that somehow.

809
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: I still remember, you know, in Cleveland, I had you know,

810
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: I've had long hair since like forever, since I went

811
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: to college. And I had my afro out right No,

812
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: not like right now, like I got the buns in

813
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: right now, but I had the afro out, and UH

814
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: coach came to me and he said, hey, I need

815
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: you to come to work with your hair braided or

816
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: cut it off. I said, Coach, He said, well, you're

817
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: black and you're a black quarterback, and you can't. You

818
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: can't be presented in that way. You can't come here

819
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: with your hair not done in some type of way

820
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: because it just doesn't give off the right message. And

821
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be i'mna be honest with you it. You know,

822
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: it pissed me off because I feel like, why why

823
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: do I have to do that? You know, why? Why

824
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: is that the message that I'm giving off of because

825
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: my hair looks a certain type of way, or because

826
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm wearing a hoodie or or whatever. For the longest,

827
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: everybody used to I walk down the street in DC

828
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: and uh, they'd be like, hey, man, I got some

829
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: weed for you. I know you, I know you smoke.

830
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: I know you.

831
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, Like, I've never smoked in my life,

832
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: and I'm not condemning anybody that does. But just because

833
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm black, I'm wearing a hoodie and I got what

834
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: people thought were dreads at the time, doesn't mean I'm

835
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: on the gondo people.

836
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: Does Jane Like, come on, no, hey, you know, try

837
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: hanging out like in UH with your teammates and stuff.

838
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: And then people are thinking like I'm.

839
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 3: Their agent or like financial man, put some respect on

840
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: my name. Man, I play too like, oh hey, what's

841
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: your name? Man like trying to give me a handshake. Like.

842
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: So it's just to that point where yeah, man, like

843
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: everybody likes a good laugh, But what's going going on

844
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: in this country? For hundreds of years with with minorities

845
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: in general, especially the African American community just isn't a

846
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: laughing matter anymore. And I think I think people are

847
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: seeing that, and that's the disheartened part because you would

848
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: feel like, dang, why didn't you see that earlier? But

849
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: I do think this George Floyd incident, uh and the

850
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: gentleman who got gunned down for you know, going on

851
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: a jog, those that really brought everybody out to the forefront.

852
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: Plus everyone's not doing anything really right, so a lot

853
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: of people out of work, so there's more eyes on

854
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: social media, there's your eyes on the news, and like

855
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like like twenty twenty is just complete chaos. Man,

856
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Like Kobe Bryant dies and we got coronavirus hiss And now.

857
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 6: Talk about the history books that they're going to be

858
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 6: on twenty twenty back when it's like year three thousand.

859
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: Dude, they're gonna be learning about all this. And that's

860
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: why I think a lot of people are are doing

861
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: what they're doing because they want to be on the

862
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: right side of history. You know, I want to be

863
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: on the right side of history that that sees a

864
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: system of systematic injustice crumble. You know, yeah, down, I

865
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: want to be on that side of history, and I

866
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: think we can do it. But if you had to

867
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: ask me, I have no idea how. I have no

868
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: idea how.

869
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean she rolling it together? Man, I know.

870
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: Uh you it's like you said, it's like how that happens?

871
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Right there?

872
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: You sit and you say something, you just start thinking

873
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: and you're just like, man, like, how does that?

874
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: How does that kind of stuff happen?

875
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: And you just, if anything, try to stay optimistic and

876
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: when you can find opportunity to, you know, do something yourself.

877
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 3: Like hopefully everyone takes that choice, chooses the right choose

878
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: the right choice, makes the right decision to just like hey,

879
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: be you know, be a good person.

880
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that. There was this I came. I

881
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: don't know if the show is still long, but there

882
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: was like the show what would you Do? And like

883
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: they like set these different narrows up where like a

884
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: girls at the bar or something, and the guys like

885
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: he clearly puts something in a drink and he's getting

886
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: trying to get a drunk and there's people around, there's

887
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: cameras in the area, and they're trying to see like

888
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: who's gonna step up and do the right thing, right

889
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: And as you know, like we've had these talks with

890
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: the team about not getting involved in certain situations. And

891
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: you see you see some like domestic violence, assault happening

892
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: in a public place. Don't get involved because you could

893
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: get injured. Call the cops, do this, do that. I

894
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: don't feel like this is that type of situation, right,

895
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: This isn't a mind your own business type of thing.

896
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: Because justice for all is is good for everybody, you

897
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: know what I mean. We don't want black fathers to

898
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: be incarcerated at alarming rates that are taking them away

899
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: from their families, you know what I mean. We don't

900
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: want black fathers being you know, murdered, because I mean

901
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: that's a George Floyd was I was murdered, you know,

902
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: it was right that stuff just no remorse at all.

903
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: And you know, I just think that those are those

904
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: are things that people have to really pay closer attention to.

905
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we're it's like it's like we're kind of

906
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: in a point. I was just thinking about this as

907
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: you were talking. It's like everyone has a little bit

908
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: of sense of ownership.

909
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: Right, yes, yeah, now in this moment to.

910
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: Where we're now in ownership role in your own capacity.

911
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: It's not like, hey, this is our leader of this

912
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: and that. It's like like everyone has a little bit

913
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: of leadership right now and some accountability, some ownership in this.

914
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: They can take part in that. And it's like if

915
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: you see something, say something type of thing and and

916
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: again the whole seek to understand thing. It's like, but

917
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 3: I do feel like we are you you you said

918
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 3: something that triggered that. We're kind of a spot. That's

919
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: like we all have a little bit of ownership in

920
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: this part right now. And like you were saying, it's

921
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: not like don't stay removed from the situation because of

922
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: the repercussions that could come from you.

923
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

924
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 3: Now and now it's like going to think, hey, see something,

925
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: say something, and you know, hopefully you're looking around and

926
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 3: you got more, you got more people that are doing

927
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: the same thing you.

928
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Are, right. It's I mean, it makes me laugh. It's

929
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: not funny, but it's it makes me laugh that you know,

930
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Like growing up, they always talked about don't don't let

931
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: peer pressure get to you in negative things. Right, So

932
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: underage drinking, whatever it may.

933
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: Be, Yeah, still say no to drugs kids, you know

934
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

935
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, you know, you get all these

936
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: PEP talks and they're like, you know, peer pressure can

937
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: be good, peer pressure can be bad. Don't let the

938
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: bad peer pressure affect you. And I feel like right

939
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: now there's more peer pressure for non people of color

940
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: to step up and say something right right to the

941
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: to the to the point where when you first saw

942
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: it happened and you're like, wow, now that's big, you know,

943
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: you that's big. You get Tom Brady, you know, posting

944
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: an image of something where he's never really went into

945
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: those areas at all. I'm saying. You're like, oh my gosh, Okay,

946
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: we're making some progress here. We got to get more

947
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: people to do it. But then after like a week

948
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 2: of all this stuff going on, then you start seeing

949
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: more people start coming out. But there's a feeling that

950
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: it's due to the peer pressure, that if they don't

951
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: say something, people are going to look at them differently.

952
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 2: And I look at it like that. The church, Okay,

953
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: people have their feelings about the church. They have their

954
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: feelings about ties and offerings right right, And I've heard

955
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: every conversation about it, right but at the end of

956
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: the day, if you if you are tithing and you

957
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: you're helping the church out, the church is spreading God's

958
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: word in some type of way, whether you agree with

959
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: how they're doing it or not. Right, So you know,

960
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: I have all the phones about that as a whole

961
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: another conversation for a whole nother time. Yeah, that's why

962
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: I look at it. So sometimes when you see people

963
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: come out and say things, it's still good, right, regardless

964
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: of whether they are feeling peer pressured into it or not.

965
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: It's what you do next that really matters. And you

966
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: said that you wrote that piece you it was you know,

967
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: beautifully worded, and it's like, what do I do next?

968
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: Am I do I continue to be vocal? Do I

969
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: work in my own circles to try to improve or

970
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: attack things that I see? Do I work with you know,

971
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: these different organizations to go out and be in the

972
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: community in whatever type of way. It's what you do

973
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: next that really matters. Don't just say something to say something,

974
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, And so I'm like, I'm thinking about it,

975
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man like, people are really being peer

976
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: pressured into saying something right now, and even and even

977
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: still some people aren't saying anything right, and I do

978
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,479
Speaker 2: think you know that that's something needs to be said,

979
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: Like your brand should never be based off racism. If

980
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: you're afraid to lose fans or notoriety because you say

981
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: something about injustice, then that's that itself is a problem.

982
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's where America is right now. We're realizing. Man.

983
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: You know, I was reluctant to say something at first,

984
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: because I'm like, damn, you know, in my position, I

985
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: don't need to be in my current position, I don't

986
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: need to be controversial, you know what I mean? And

987
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: I understand that. You know, I understand why certain guys

988
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: disappear from the league when they were young because they're controversial.

989
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to be controversial. But I don't think that,

990
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: you know, standing up for equality in this moment is controversial.

991
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: I think that's right, right, And you can also, like,

992
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: you know, even even with what I wrote, I feel

993
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: like there's there's a there's a place where you don't

994
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: have to intentionally try and be controversial to get a

995
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: message across, Like you can kind of stand alone that's

996
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 3: outside of say your your you know, your football brain

997
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and still do it in a

998
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: way that's like makes.

999
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: Sense and it's genuine and comes off.

1000
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 3: Like, you know, like we're kind of saying like, yeah,

1001
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: we don't know the answers, but you can start having conversations.

1002
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: And doing it from you know, I BC understand all

1003
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's just you know, you don't.

1004
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: Have to make yourself force yourself into some controversial spot

1005
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: like you can do it with I don't know. The

1006
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 3: only word that's coming to my head is, I guess elegance,

1007
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: which sounds.

1008
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: A little weird. You you don't want to You don't

1009
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 2: have to force yourself to do something or say something

1010
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: because it's gonna look good right now, or don't say

1011
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: something because it's not gonna look good, you know. And

1012
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: I think that's what we've been for most of the part,

1013
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: uh most of the time. But I know think guys

1014
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: are starting to say things because I do think they're

1015
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: actually genuinely, genuinely care. And then you know, on the

1016
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: other side of it, there's always going to be just

1017
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: like the riots and the protest, there's always going to

1018
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: be those who aren't doing it for the right reasons.

1019
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: Similar sure out there not even protesting, they're just spray

1020
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: painting stuff.

1021
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: They're just like, you know, you can see people saying, home, hey,

1022
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: we got this movement going on, like let's go, let's

1023
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: go get back at the cops in the city for

1024
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: what they've done to us.

1025
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: And they're just out there tearing.

1026
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: There's stuffing up. So you know, I think things are

1027
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: going to move in the right direction. I don't. I

1028
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: don't want anything else to be like destroyed, uh or

1029
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: people to lose out all money or anything. But I

1030
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: definitely do think the system does need to be destroyed.

1031
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I can't have RG on and not talk

1032
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: about some ball because you have you have an interesting story,

1033
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: you do, you have an interesting journey.

1034
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: I know from my.

1035
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: Own experience with RG three for everybody listening, when I

1036
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: was undrafted in my first interaction in the building, because

1037
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: I can vividly fucking remember this, and.

1038
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: I was hype, is I'm gonna draft the cat?

1039
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Go in? You know, I got I had what I

1040
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 3: had going on, and RG comes out the elevator.

1041
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: You were on the first the bottom of the player floor.

1042
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: You came out the elevator and we were about to

1043
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: go out to the rookie mini camp, and you just

1044
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: stuck out your fist and you're like, hey, good luck

1045
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: out there, man. And I remember dipping you up and

1046
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: like walking by you, and I was sinking to myself, like, Yo,

1047
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: that is r G three. And this was after your

1048
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: rookie year, you know what I mean? Like this is

1049
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: what you know? Hey, that was RGIE three. Just RGIE three.

1050
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: Just dap me up. And you go from having an

1051
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: incent and I'm gonna let you talk about it because

1052
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna You're gonna give me some education on it too,

1053
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: because I'm very curious. And you you went from being

1054
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: the face of the Redskins, and I was there when

1055
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: it was kind of filtering down, like I was trying

1056
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: to come up in my way.

1057
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: You were you.

1058
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you talk about it, right, And you

1059
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: go off the Redskins and then where you were a

1060
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: year a free agent right after the Skins?

1061
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: Or did you go somewhere else first and then you were.

1062
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: I went somewhere first. I went to Cleveland, then sixteen,

1063
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: and then I was out in seventeen.

1064
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

1065
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: And you spent a whole year off, all year off

1066
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: and still working on your craft.

1067
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking abou.

1068
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw all your videos and you kept

1069
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: at it like you persevered through you know, a lot

1070
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: of adversity that you went through in that middle part

1071
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: of your career and to re revamp it, re light it,

1072
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: reignite it in Baltimore, and it seems like you're having

1073
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: a hell of a time out there. And I always

1074
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: get stoked when you get out there and it just

1075
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: looks like you're having so much fun playing again. And

1076
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm just so curious to learn about the story of

1077
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 3: RG three a little bit and to walk me through

1078
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: the beginning too, because I was looking. I was on

1079
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: your Wikipedia page and seeing all your athletes, Like I

1080
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: knew you were a beast in college because we played Nebraska,

1081
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: played against Baylor one year you were out because you're

1082
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: you were I think you had a yeah when you

1083
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: hampton Nebraska, you ran all over us, which I'm sure,

1084
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure our stadium was probably your favorite of all time.

1085
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: Free shoutout, go be Grad. But I remember people being like, yo,

1086
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: who in the hell is this? And it's like, you know,

1087
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: he was like you were like number one in America.

1088
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: The worlds were like hurdling, and you were like you're

1089
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: a world class track athlete as well at this time.

1090
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: Then you go from first round pick, Heisman Trophy winner,

1091
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 3: you got accolades, list, list list, offensive, Rookie of the Year,

1092
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: playoff game, taking the skins of the playoffs where you know,

1093
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: and then your knee happens, like talk talk about your

1094
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 3: story for me a little bit, and talk about going

1095
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: into the Redskins, your rookie year.

1096
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: Talk about your rookie year.

1097
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean the grand scheme of it all

1098
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: has just been a it's been an amazing story testimony

1099
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: that I that I would love to share some type

1100
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: of capacity when it's.

1101
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 7: All said done well on the bus, Yeah, on the bus.

1102
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 7: On the bus, dude, you know, on here with you

1103
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 7: guys in a buck somehow some way, because I think

1104
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 7: it's just been an eye opening experience. So, you know,

1105
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 7: first I would say that when I came into the league,

1106
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 7: I'm not a kid who has uh what is it

1107
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 7: an NFL.

1108
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: Pedigree, right, I don't have a I didn't have a

1109
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: dad who played, or an uncle who played or some

1110
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: or you know, a grandfather who played in the league.

1111
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: So everything was new, uh to me, And it was

1112
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: riding riding off of the success that we had at

1113
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: Baylor and came in as a rookie. So when I

1114
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: came in as a rookie, it was, uh, you know,

1115
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: just trying to prove to everybody that, like I was

1116
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: worth everything they gave up. I didn't ask them to

1117
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: give that stuff up, but I wanted to.

1118
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, but you're you're I mean, just to give

1119
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: people perspective, like you're saying it now like you're explaining it,

1120
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 6: but you're what how old are you.

1121
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: At that time? I think I was. I was twenty

1122
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: two years old.

1123
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: Twenty two years old face of a franchise.

1124
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: You're your top five pick, Like, I mean, I get it, dude,

1125
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: Like you're a kid coming in and you're yeah, you're

1126
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: trying to prove everybody like, yo, I'm the new young

1127
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm the man, right and hey, I'm the man in

1128
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: this piece Washington Dude, Like, yeah, you're always trying to

1129
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: like for sure, dude, I I yeah, there's like you.

1130
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to talk about it, right, I'm

1131
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: not trying to do anything, uh that that a rookie

1132
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: is not supposed to do. You know, we had Santana Moss,

1133
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: we had Chris Cooley, we had all these veteran guys,

1134
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm starstruck when I when I walk

1135
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: in the locker room, they sit me next to London

1136
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: Fletcher right, and football right knows that London was like

1137
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: that guy in Washington. He was that dude. So when

1138
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 2: I got there, I'm like, oh man, I'm I'm right

1139
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: right next to London Fletcher every single day and I

1140
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: get to throw the ball to Santana Moss and I

1141
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: get to the ball Chris Cooley, Like I'm like, I'm

1142
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: losing my mind as a rookie, like this is incredible.

1143
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: And you know, you come in and you make your

1144
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: mistakes right, and you get better, and you make your

1145
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: mistakes and you get better as you know, and you

1146
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: slowly figure it out. And for me, London was a

1147
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: big part of that because I had to go against

1148
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: him every day in practice. So Shanahan's system wasn't the

1149
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: easiest system to maneuver and operate, especially as a rookie.

1150
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 2: So when his check recheck, check recheck, and I'm having

1151
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: a check recheck against one of the greatest mill linebackers

1152
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: of all time, Like that's not fun. I make a check.

1153
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: He knows what check I'm making.

1154
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: Oh, no question. He's a stud.

1155
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: Either that or he read the script.

1156
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: You know that ongoing argument every day. Y'all knew what

1157
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: was coming.

1158
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: It's like, no, so rechecking. I'm like, okay, well it's

1159
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: cover zero. I make the check and London's like, check

1160
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: to cover two. So I check back. He checks back

1161
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: to cover zero. I go to coach. I said, hey, Kyle, like,

1162
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do? Like the dude knows

1163
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: all the calls, he's making all the checks, and Kyle

1164
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: just says, I don't just go play ball. And for

1165
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: me there was this sense of just go play ball,

1166
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: my rookie year, go play ball. I didn't know everything, right,

1167
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: I didn't. I knew the offense, but I didn't know

1168
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: everything that the NFL was going to present. And uh,

1169
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: you know, that run against the Vikings was a complete

1170
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: misread by me. That that touchdown run my rookie year,

1171
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: the seventy sixth year or whatever it was, It was

1172
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: a misread by me. I saw the two backers in

1173
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: the middle of the formation, and I thought I was getting,

1174
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, some type of cover zero or that I

1175
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: was going to be hot. So I had to make

1176
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: a decision either throw the ball hot or run, and

1177
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: I decided to run and everybody was blocked.

1178
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: I remember, I.

1179
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: Remember vividly because I think, uh man, I think it

1180
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: was Evan Royster was it might have been the running back, Yeah,

1181
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: it was. It was your typical double A blitz, which

1182
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: I know now was a double A blitz, and they

1183
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: didn't bring anyone extra. They didn't bring a dB or

1184
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: safety from either side, and everybody got blocked. So the

1185
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: defense was like kind of shocked that I took off

1186
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: running because they're thinking, oh, it's third and like five

1187
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: or six or seven, he's gonna throw the ball. So

1188
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm running the sideline and coaches. I can see Kyle

1189
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: and I can see Mike, and they're both saying get down,

1190
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: get down, get down, because all we needed was the

1191
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: first down to win. All we needed was the first

1192
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: down to win the game. And I like looked and

1193
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: I looked at the safety, which I think was Harrison

1194
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: Smith at the time. I'm like, I can get past

1195
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: this guy. So white guy, I said, I think I

1196
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: can outrun him. Out ran there and then I scored

1197
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: the testdown and like the rest is history. But it

1198
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: was like little things like that were happening in my

1199
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: rookie year, and slowly but surely I was winning over

1200
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: the guys in the locker room because of the play

1201
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: on the field and because of, you know, just the

1202
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: hard work. When you came in, did you come in

1203
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: You came in Channion's second year or my second year.

1204
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: Or yeah, I came in the year you were you

1205
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: were re having to get your knee back.

1206
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: Right, correct, So so I came.

1207
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: I came the year after your guys's uh, you guys

1208
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: had like a hell of a year coming back, bring

1209
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 3: it to the playoffs.

1210
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: I came the year where it was bad.

1211
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: But you remember we when we came back in thirteen,

1212
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh man, these guys went to the playoffs

1213
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: last year. It's going to be a great year. We're

1214
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: gonna do this. We're gonna do that. We're gonna do this.

1215
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: And we came out and we were flat right. We

1216
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: just I remember vividly in twenty thirteen, it was like

1217
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: almost every game we came out and like first second

1218
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: quarter it was twenty one and nothing, fourteen and nothing,

1219
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: and we were fighting from behind every single game. I

1220
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: remember the Packers like I don't know if you remember

1221
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: that Packers game. D Y had like a super long touchdown,

1222
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: like a six year second catch out of the backfield,

1223
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: but we were down like twenty eight to nothing by

1224
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: like midway through the second quarter something like that, right,

1225
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: And it just it didn't click for us that year.

1226
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: And I know why it didn't click. It didn't click

1227
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: because our chemistry wasn't the same. There are too much

1228
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: turmoil happened from the time when we won the playoff,

1229
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: when we got to the playoff game, and by the

1230
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: start of the next season, that whole off season was.

1231
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: Chaotics, And well why was it chaotic?

1232
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,479
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1233
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1235
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1237
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1238
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1239
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1240
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Speaker 2: If you're I don't know if you remember this because

1256
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: you you were on the team yet, but my injury

1257
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: caused a lot of of uh turmoil.

1258
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you you were from my understanding, you

1259
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: you are, you were you were the face.

1260
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had question marks playing that game? Correct?

1261
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Correct? I did?

1262
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 3: And there was I mean, you know, I don't know

1263
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: there were from what I had heard, there were decisions

1264
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 3: and stuff that were happening on actual game day even Yeah.

1265
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: So, like I said, I didn't want to I don't

1266
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: want to dive too much into it, but there was

1267
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: a lot of turmoil around my injury. I got hurt

1268
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: against the Ravens, which is, you know, kind of ironic,

1269
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: but I I got heard against the Ravens. I sat

1270
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: out a game against the Browns, and then I came

1271
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: back against Philly and I played the rest of that year.

1272
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: But you know, everybody knew I was you know, I

1273
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: was compromised to.

1274
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: If you could go back, would you have played that game,

1275
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: that playoff game?

1276
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: Uh? If I went back, I wouldn't have gone back

1277
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: in I got I was, I was okay in the

1278
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: beginning of the game, and we jumped out I think

1279
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: a fourteen to nothing lead, mm hmm, and then I

1280
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: re injured my knee just like on a I was

1281
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: rolled to the sideline, I threw my knee buckle. Something happened.

1282
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: You know, when you're already compromised, it's like the weirdest

1283
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: stuff happens that that for sure, something.

1284
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: So and you already kind of fall to the ground

1285
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: in a way you're just like, hey, exactly, fall to

1286
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: the ground gracefully.

1287
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm sure all of Rescuing Nation is like, when they

1288
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: hear this, you're gonna be like, oh, man, I knew

1289
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have went back in. Yeah I should. If

1290
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: I could go back and do it again. Yeah, I

1291
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone back into the playoff game. But hindsight's

1292
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty right for sure. I'm like watching this documentary

1293
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: you know about you know, Lance Armstrong, right, and he's

1294
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do anything different. I'm like, bro, come on, yeah,

1295
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: like anything like anything? So yeah, I mean, I think

1296
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: to be to being honest with yourself, and I think

1297
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: that's a big part of it, Like you learned that

1298
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: over the course of your career, you've got to be

1299
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: honest with yourself. I wouldn't have gone back into that

1300
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: playoff game, but you don't know what you don't know

1301
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: at that time. Yeah, if I hadn't gone back in,

1302
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: then maybe maybe I would have. Maybe I'd still be

1303
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: in Washington. I don't know. If I hadn't come back

1304
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: from the injury in twenty thirteen prematurely, maybe I'd still

1305
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 2: be in Washington. But I don't hold on to those

1306
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: things anymore because it's all part of the journey, and

1307
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: now I can just I can take that experience and

1308
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,959
Speaker 2: give it to other guys. But that's why I think

1309
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: our chemistry was off. There was a ton of turmoil

1310
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: between that. Mike was being torn apart in the media.

1311
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: I tried to come to his defense, but no one

1312
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: was listening at that time. They just felt like he

1313
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: should have taken the responsibility and taken me out of

1314
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: the game. And as you know, it's not like you know,

1315
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: that team was like the most organized team of all time.

1316
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: I try to say that with the utmost respect, you

1317
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not out here to

1318
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: try to tear anybody down or tear any other organizations down.

1319
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to do the I can do right

1320
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: now for Baltimore ratings. So that turmoil affected our whole

1321
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: locker room, and now guys are having to answer questions

1322
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: every single day about what's going on with r G,

1323
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: what's going on with with Mike, what's going on with

1324
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: the doctor, what's going on with his knees. He's gonna

1325
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: be ready for the Season's it's gonna happen. Oh what

1326
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: if he gets hurt next year, are you going to

1327
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: pull him out of the game? And it was just

1328
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: like it was from that standpoint of it to where

1329
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: you didn't know what the right answer was.

1330
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: Well, Washington media is crazy too, Hey.

1331
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: Am I gonna? Am I gonna come back and be

1332
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: ready for week one? Yeah? I mean why wouldn't I?

1333
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I want to do that? And then it

1334
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: just became this whole thing of well, why would he

1335
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: come back for week one? And why would he do this?

1336
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: And why would he do that? And Uh, I think

1337
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: that really affected our team. You know, it became for

1338
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: a lack of better a better explanation, it became all

1339
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: about me, and I think that really affected the locker

1340
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: room to the stand point of, you know, what the

1341
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: hell is going on? So I learned that, and uh,

1342
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I made mistakes, uh in my

1343
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: time in Washington, you know, going back into that playoff

1344
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: game and fighting to play so so hard?

1345
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: Did you did you? Did you?

1346
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: Was it like the competitive pride to want to go

1347
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: back in and play without a doubt?

1348
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1349
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: I know, I know it was in front of you, right,

1350
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: it didn't matter. Uh, it can be London Fletcher. You'd

1351
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: be like, I'm the best linebacker they need me.

1352
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1353
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: That's just our nature, right, Our nature is to want

1354
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: to play. So when you get hurt, uh, you know,

1355
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: some of us like to think of ourselves as gladiators,

1356
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: as superheroes. You have one or two responses. The one

1357
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: response is all right, I'm done, I'm not gonna play anymore.

1358
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: And and you know, for myself, I think that's a

1359
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: selfish response. The other responses, I got to be out

1360
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: there with my brothers. I have to put it all

1361
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: on the line, and I don't think that's a selfish response.

1362
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: It is up to other people to try to pull

1363
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: you out of that. But you should always want to play, right,

1364
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: I think that's that's in our DNA. You always want

1365
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: to play. Your leg could be falling off and you're like,

1366
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,440
Speaker 2: tape it up. I can go, yeah, And if you can't,

1367
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: you know it's their job to tell you, nanna sit out.

1368
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: You're not going to do that right now. So I

1369
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: think that that really affected our team at thirteen, and

1370
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: then obviously fourteen we got a new coach and like

1371
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: I said, all that stuff, I'll definitely write about someday.

1372
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: Book, but shout out the new book.

1373
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: RG baby. I'll write about that stuff another day. But

1374
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: I think it was just it was it was tough

1375
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: to go from Yeah, I mean, I think anybody would

1376
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: would say it was tough to go from being the

1377
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: face of that franchise, face of the league toy by

1378
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: a little I mean three years later twenty fifteen, I

1379
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: didn't play a snap, right, Remember I was, uh, you know,

1380
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: I was playing scout team safety.

1381
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 1: I know, dude.

1382
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: You go from that to that, and you're like, Okay,

1383
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: how did this happen? You go from helping the team

1384
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: win the division for the first time in twelve years

1385
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: I think nineteen ninety nine was the last time they

1386
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: won the division and you go to the playoffs for

1387
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: the first time in a while, and then three years

1388
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: later you're like, damn, I didn't they didn't even give

1389
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,919
Speaker 2: me time to develop or time to overcome these injuries,

1390
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: because that was a big part of it for me too.

1391
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 2: It was the injuries. I told my h I broke

1392
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: my ankle. Uh. And then there was the phantom made

1393
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: up concussion in twenty fifteen in the preseason. But let

1394
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: me not go let me not go there. It's uh,

1395
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: that's part of the story. It was part of the story,

1396
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 2: and I just look at him like man Like Matthew

1397
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: Stafford got hurt his first two three years in the league,

1398
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: and they stuck with him and gave him opportunity. I

1399
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: didn't get that luxury, and in twenty seventeen, I let

1400
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: that go. That's why I can talk about it freely now.

1401
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,879
Speaker 2: Not there's no animosity. It's like, this is what happened,

1402
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: and now I'm moving forward. So what I'm praying for

1403
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: is that I get a chance to play for the

1404
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 2: next ten years. Because quarterbacks we can play for day

1405
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: there forever. So I'm thirty. I'd love to play into

1406
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: my forties, but I want to play for another ten

1407
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: years at least. And now I'm praying that and through

1408
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: the work ethic and the hard work that now I'll

1409
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: be blessed with the luxury of getting that time, staying

1410
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: healthy for the remainder of my career and playing at

1411
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: a high level. So for me, I've been healthy for

1412
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: the past three years and I think that'll continue. Just

1413
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: need an opportunity, and the Ravens have given me one

1414
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: right now in this capacity, and I'm going to make

1415
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 2: the most of it so that when I do get

1416
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 2: my opportunity to be a start again, I'm ready.

1417
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

1418
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 3: And the thing too that you know, I hope people

1419
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 3: understands how much fun you have that you've been having

1420
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 3: doing it and making this kind of like comeback, you

1421
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it's a cool story, like

1422
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: you hate that it happened now without going into much

1423
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: detail on the other side of the fence, that will

1424
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: probably be in your book. If you could talk to

1425
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 3: if you could talk to young RG during those first

1426
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 3: few years, what kinds of things would you tell yourself

1427
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 3: that you could have that you could have probably went about,

1428
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: not things, but maybe maybe playbook wise, maybe learning wise,

1429
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: Like what advice would you have given your young self

1430
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: back then if you could go back and be like

1431
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: and grab yourself by the head and be, hey, make

1432
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: this decision or don't write it like this, or maybe

1433
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: it's reading media stuff. I don't know what it is,

1434
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: but speak on yourself a little bit about some things.

1435
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: That you might.

1436
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: You know, this has always been a tough thing for

1437
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 2: me because I have I've had this question before and

1438
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 2: I've and I've answered it. The tough part is that, like,

1439
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: you know, me come. There was some some storylines that

1440
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: were just not true. Sure, there was some there were

1441
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: some media reports that just weren't true, whether it was

1442
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: about the locker room, about myself, I am, my study habits,

1443
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: or whatever it may be. Anyone who's ever been a

1444
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: teammate of mine knows that those things weren't true. So

1445
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, well what I have told myself. One

1446
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: of the mistakes I really felt like I made was

1447
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: I used to talk after Mike in the media. It's

1448
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: just the way the wrestlings had a set up, right.

1449
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 2: Mike would talk, and then I would talk, and I

1450
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: felt like sometimes I was too anti what was being said,

1451
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. If it was, hey, are you

1452
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: gonna come back and be ready week one? They would

1453
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: ask Mike that, and Mike would say, you know, we're

1454
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: gonna be cautious, We're gonna, you know, take our time.

1455
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: We're not sure if he's gonna be ready. The doctors

1456
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: will make that decision. And then I would come afterwards

1457
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: and they would ask me, here, are you gonna be

1458
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: ready for week one? And I'm like, there's no doubt

1459
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to be ready for week one and I'm

1460
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 2: gonna be And I felt like I in those instances

1461
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: I put him in a tough situation because he was

1462
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 2: saying things and then I would come back behind him.

1463
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: And I wasn't contradicting it, but I was more like

1464
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: I was way more aggressive in that approach, and that

1465
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: was my that was my personality. And I felt like

1466
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: sometimes I could have just said, hey, you know, talk

1467
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: to coach, talk to the doctors. I'm gonna do everything

1468
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: I can, but they're gonna make the final decision or

1469
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 2: whatever it may be, right right, And I did say

1470
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna make the final decision, but I just said

1471
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: it way more aggressively, you.

1472
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 1: Know, right.

1473
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: Personality is, Hey, RG, you think you could go make

1474
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: the Olympic team right now in the foreigner hurdles. Yes,

1475
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: if I go training, yes I can do. I don't know.

1476
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm two hundred and twenty pounds. I don't know if

1477
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,480
Speaker 2: I could make the Olympic team in the foreigner hurdles.

1478
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: I love those guys. These guys are incredible. I mean,

1479
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go train for two weeks and be like, Yep,

1480
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: I can do it. But if you asked me to

1481
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: do it. I try, you know, so I feel like

1482
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: I could have done a better job, a better better

1483
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: job with that. But there was a lot of things

1484
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: that were being said that just rubbed me the wrong

1485
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: way because I knew they weren't true. And that is

1486
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: where I would say I could have ignored it better.

1487
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I mean it, dude, It is hard,

1488
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 1: especially in Washington.

1489
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: Put it in context, like you're in the nation's capital, right, Uh,

1490
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 2: Barack Obama's the president, and you got a black quarterback.

1491
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 2: Screwtiny is at all time high. Okay, Right, that was

1492
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: the part where I felt like, you know, just ignore

1493
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 2: the noise. Ignore the noise, don't let it affect anything.

1494
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: Don't don't don't make it change you. You know what

1495
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, And I think by the time you

1496
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: you probably attested by the time I left Washington, I

1497
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,799
Speaker 2: was not having fun anymore.

1498
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: Right, you would try to force it in practice like

1499
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: on the peace squad side.

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01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, for.

1501
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: Sure, I showed that. I never showed that to you guys,

1502
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: but you Niles d Y like we were close. They

1503
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: knew I wasn't having fun. But I did my job.

1504
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: I was a good teammate in twenty fifteen. I was

1505
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 2: not a cancer on that team. We won the divisions.

1506
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I didn't play a snap of football, right.

1507
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: I did what I was supposed to do. They asked

1508
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 2: me play scout team safety. I play scout team safety.

1509
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: You know, I stayed out to practice. I got my

1510
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: work in, work on my craft. And but every people

1511
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: who knew me, I knew I wasn't having fun, but

1512
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: I never showed that in the building. I showed up

1513
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 2: to meetings. I was. I was into it. I was helpful.

1514
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: I helped uh, you know Kirk Doll the do all

1515
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: the studying and the recognition on the field, whatever it

1516
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: may be that you're supposed to do. I did those things.

1517
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm not for a pet on the back form. It's

1518
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: just that's what happened and what I'm doing now in Baltimore,

1519
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 2: and that year off of football helped reset me, helped

1520
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: me have fun again. When I came back in twenty eighteen,

1521
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: I played in the preseason like I'm a you know,

1522
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 2: second overall pick. I'm not a guy that like was

1523
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 2: living for the preseason. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

1524
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: guess what that was my situation. I was the fourth

1525
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: quarterback on the roster. You know, I had to accept that, Like, damn,

1526
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm the fourth quarterback on the roster. I was getting

1527
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 2: two reps a day in practice for the majority of

1528
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: training camp. I'm like, you know, I'm not getting a

1529
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: lot of reps. I'll stay at to practice, I'll do this.

1530
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: But I know that I can ball. And I went

1531
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 2: out that preseason and I played my ass off, and

1532
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: I think that's why I made the team. I think

1533
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: that's why they brought me back for the two year deal,

1534
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: because they understand that I'm always going to be ready

1535
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: and that year, the year a football in twin seventeen,

1536
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: really helped me reset my brain really start having fun

1537
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: playing the game again, and I think that's a big

1538
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: reason why I was able to come back in the

1539
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: way they'll.

1540
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: Have you think. You think being out of football, being

1541
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: out of football.

1542
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: For a year was was a huge play for you

1543
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: to actually get in the right headspace to come back again.

1544
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 2: Correct.

1545
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: I think I was going to ask, I was going

1546
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 3: to ask if that was your lowest year mentally, but

1547
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: you're you you what was your lowest point throughout the

1548
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 3: process of transitioning out of Washington and then rekindling it

1549
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: all in the Baltimore Ravens because I want to know,

1550
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,440
Speaker 3: I want to know about your perseverance in that adversity

1551
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: of being like, you know, low key, I might be

1552
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1553
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say that. You know, football is

1554
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: a team game, so it's hard to say. Hey, twenty

1555
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 2: fifteen was my was my lowest year. It was it

1556
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: because we were winning and we weren't winning a ton

1557
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: as you know we were. I think we're nine and

1558
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 2: seven or yeah, we won. We had that one division,

1559
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: but the division was down that year. That was like chaotic.

1560
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 2: Also though if you remember, yeah, remember we played Philly.

1561
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: I think it was Philly. I think it was Philly,

1562
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:16,520
Speaker 2: and like, uh at Philly took me instead of killing.

1563
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: The Yeah yeah, yeah, that was the game we won

1564
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: the division.

1565
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: We won the division that game, but he took a

1566
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: knee at halftime instead of killing the clock for us

1567
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: to kill kick a field goal. And I'll never forget.

1568
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm on the side and I'm like what just happened?

1569
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: And we're like walking in and we walked in the

1570
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: locker room, and I mean this is I'm pretty sure

1571
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: if somebody has already told this story before. But like

1572
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: Pierre is like about to whoop Jay's ass, and uh,

1573
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 2: Deshaun is about to whip Jay's ass, and like Deshaun

1574
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: passes out in the locker room and what is going on?

1575
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 2: And then it happened and won the game? Yes, all right,

1576
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: well we just won the division. I don't know how

1577
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: it happened. I don't know what was going on at halftime,

1578
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: but we won the division. Yeah. So I can't say

1579
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: that because I was I didn't you know, any any

1580
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: guy is gonna want to play, right, But from my

1581
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: team and the guys that I was there with, I

1582
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: was really happy for them in that moment. Twenty sixteen

1583
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: was tough because I got hurt right away. I came

1584
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: out in the I came out in the preseason in

1585
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland and we were killing it. I had Josh Gordon

1586
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 2: there and we were doing really well. And we went

1587
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: to Philly and I broke my shoulder right away. That

1588
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 2: was a tough year. We lost every game until I

1589
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: came back on Christmas Day and we beat the Chargers.

1590
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking in my head, all right, you know

1591
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 2: I was injured. I came back helped them win a game.

1592
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: I'll be back next year. I'll get one more go

1593
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: at it. They're probably gonna draft a rookie high and

1594
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: I'll have one more go out of here and we'll

1595
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: go go about our ways. And they told me we're

1596
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: bringing you back, and then they released me.

1597
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: So it's got I hate that part of the business.

1598
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: Brou I hate that part of the business. But it's

1599
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: you know, you want to say, just be honest, right,

1600
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: don't don't lie to me. And I mean it was like,

1601
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: within like sixteen hours, I got a call. I got

1602
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: a call, We're bringing you back. Don't worry about any

1603
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: of this stuff. I think it was when they trade

1604
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: it for brock Oswaller. So I'm like, okay, I'll compete

1605
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: with Brock. You know I used to kick his ass

1606
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: in training when we were coming out for the draft.

1607
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 1: So let's go yeah, yeah, no doubt, dude.

1608
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: We're not We're going to try to trade him and

1609
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: get rid of Himn't worry about that. We're bringing you back.

1610
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: We're rolling with you. We might draft the guy, but

1611
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 2: you know you're going to get a shot. I'm like, okay, cool.

1612
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: Sixteen hours later, I got the call that I was, Oh,

1613
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: what's going on? So now that's transitioning from that happened

1614
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. So now I'm thinking, Okay, they let

1615
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: me go. I'm gonna get another opportunity. Yeah, I'm not

1616
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: might not get paid as much money, but I'm going

1617
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 2: to get an opportunity to go and compete to be

1618
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: a starter. And I got an offer from the Cardinals

1619
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: to come in with Bruce Airings and uh, he had

1620
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: just brought in like Blaine Gabbard or something. And I remember,

1621
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: like for like the past couple of years, I believe

1622
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: it was uh, and who is the back up for

1623
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: the Browns last year?

1624
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: Last year.

1625
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: He's real good drinking buddies with Bruce Arions and and

1626
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals was Stanton Yeah, yeah, yeah, yest name

1627
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: Drew stand was a backup and I think Carson was

1628
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: still was still playing at that time.

1629
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1630
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm like in my head, I'm talking to my agent

1631
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 2: at the time. I'm like, yeah, you know, Drews has

1632
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: come in and not played well, but Bruce really likes him.

1633
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: He's good for the room, he's good for Carson. And

1634
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: they just they just signed or brought in Blaine Gabbert,

1635
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 2: So why would I go there. I'm gonna be the

1636
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: fourth guy, odd man out and uh he said yeah,

1637
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: but you know, and the contract they offered me, I'm like, okay,

1638
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: I can't take that contract. That's just a bad deal.

1639
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: So I turned it down. He said, if you turn

1640
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: this down, I don't know if you're going to get

1641
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 2: an opportunity to play until training camp. So I turned

1642
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: it down, didn't get an opportunity, didn't get another call

1643
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 2: till training camp, and then I had a try with

1644
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 2: the Chargers and I did really well. Killed the workout

1645
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: so much that they used it as levers to trade

1646
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 2: for Cardile Jones. Yeah. So they traded for Cardil Jones

1647
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 2: because they're a pressure. They're pressure in the bills with

1648
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: me saying, look, if you don't trade him to us

1649
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: for whatever pick six round pick, then we're just gonna

1650
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: sign RG three. So they traded for him, and I

1651
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: got a call from the Baltimore Ravens in twenty seventeen

1652
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 2: when Joe Flaccol hurt his back and they said, we

1653
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: want you to come in. We're going to play, We're

1654
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: going to play the Redskins, but we want you to

1655
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: start the game because they were trying to hide Ryan

1656
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: Malleck because they didn't know if Joe was going to

1657
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 2: be healthy. I didn't want Male to get hurt playing

1658
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: against the Redskins. I said, all right, man, like, why

1659
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't I want to play against the Redskins? Right?

1660
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 4: What?

1661
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: Hell?

1662
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.

1663
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: I WO love that. I said, Okay, look, I'll come in.

1664
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go like I've been training. I'm all

1665
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: for it, but I need you to give me some

1666
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: type of assurance that I'm not going to come in

1667
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 2: for two weeks and be released. Because I don't know

1668
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 2: if everyone knows this, but with quarterbacks, when you go

1669
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: that route, there's no coming back from that.

1670
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Speaker 2: Now, you don't go somewhere for two weeks in training camp,

1696
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 2: get cut, and then all of a sudden, have a

1697
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Speaker 2: ten year career. After that, Usually that happens and you

1698
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: transition to some other style of life in your career

1699
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: is over. And I felt like I couldn't risk that,

1700
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: And at that time, Baltimore wasn't willing to give me

1701
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,080
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1702
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: financially or verbally, that you're going to be here. We're

1703
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: not going to do that to you. So I turned

1704
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: it down. And when I turned that down, then I

1705
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: got I got a bunch of calls throughout the year,

1706
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: but nothing really materialized to the point of a contract offer,

1707
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: and I sat out the whole year, so I was

1708
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: ready the whole football season, I was throwing one.

1709
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 3: So and you could have actually tooken the chance to

1710
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: go do that, and you just chose to turn it down.

1711
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 2: I chose to turn it down on multiple occasions because

1712
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: I felt like it just wasn't the right move.

1713
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 1: Correct.

1714
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 2: For sure, this is chess, It's not checkers, you know

1715
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, you don't just take an opportunity

1716
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: because it's there, You take the right opportunity. And I

1717
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: honestly felt in my heart that I made the wrong

1718
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: choice by going to Cleveland, and I was making a

1719
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: checkers move instead of a chess move. So I wasn't

1720
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: gonna make that mistake again, and it cost me a

1721
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 2: year in my football career. Now, during that year, I

1722
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: got to like settle my whole life, like what am

1723
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 2: I gonna do with or without football. I got to

1724
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: watch my daughter grow up, I got to spend more

1725
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: time with my family out there every single day with me,

1726
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: and my wife was telling me, I'm out, I'm out

1727
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 2: at the track. I'm in Miami. I was in I

1728
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 2: was in Florida at the time. I'm out of the

1729
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: track in Miami and I'm running three hundred hurdles okay,

1730
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: Because I was like, you know what, this is what

1731
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: got me here. Why not go back to some of

1732
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: this style of training so I can get my speed

1733
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: and and and trusting all these other things back. I'm

1734
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: running through in the hurdles, and uh, I'm dying. Come,

1735
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 2: I'm dying, like hurting, and like I get to I

1736
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: have five reps of it and I get to the

1737
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: fourth rep. I finish it and I'm like, you know,

1738
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: I'm like dead leg walking, you know, like knees aren't straight,

1739
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: knees are bent, no flextioning in the cas because I'm

1740
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: just I'm I'm toast. And she says to me, she says, baby,

1741
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: you don't have to do this. You don't have to

1742
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: do this, like financially secure, you don't have to play

1743
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 2: another down in your life. I don't want to see

1744
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: you get hurt, you know, going out there and playing.

1745
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 2: And I said, nah, I said I have five, I'm

1746
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 2: gonna do five. Right. I didn't even address the other stuff.

1747
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I said I have five, I'm gonna

1748
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: do five. And I did number five. And when I

1749
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: tell you, I couldn't fill my legs afterwards. It was

1750
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: like the worst moment of all time. You ever get

1751
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: so tired that like someone tries to like touch your

1752
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: leg or stretch you, and you like, yeah, let them.

1753
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: Like that's how how tired I was.

1754
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 3: When you start like you start like you're so exhausted,

1755
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 3: you start paying a little bit, and you just don't

1756
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: even really feel it, like you're just so that exhausted.

1757
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 2: I tell us, she's like, come here. I'm like, no,

1758
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: don't touch me, let me go.

1759
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: I was.

1760
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: I was. I was toast And we talked about it

1761
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: later that day and I'm like, you know what, You're right,

1762
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,879
Speaker 2: I am financially secure. I don't have to play anymore.

1763
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: But something is keeping me going, something is telling me

1764
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 2: that this is what you're called to do, this is

1765
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: where you're supposed to be. So that happened actually pretty

1766
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 2: early in the season. So I'm coming. I'm going out

1767
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: the whole year, and I'm throwing footballs at palm Trees

1768
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: and I'm at UCF in the spring throwing footballs to

1769
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: some of their wide receivers. And I get a call

1770
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: from my agent and he says, I think I got

1771
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: a couple of workouts lined up for you. He said,

1772
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens want to bring you in. They have a

1773
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 2: couple of receivers coming in for you, and you're gonna

1774
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: throw Like all right, cool, Like you want me to

1775
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: work out, bro, that's not a problem. Go to the workout.

1776
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: It's Willie Snead and Michael Floyd. And when I tell

1777
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: you how to ball hit the ground, not a ball

1778
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,480
Speaker 2: hit the ground. It was like we have been practicing

1779
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: for like ten years together. It was just like a

1780
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: match made in heaven. And they tell us after the workout,

1781
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we're gonna we want to sign you

1782
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: Willie and Michael Ford. So Willie signed first. I went

1783
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: to another workout a couple of days later with the

1784
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jacksonville Jaguars, and I did. I killed that workout

1785
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 2: as well. It was me, honestly, can't remember who the

1786
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 2: other guys were. But Austin Davis, who now coaches for Seattle,

1787
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: he was one of the guys at that workout and

1788
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: we're killing the workout and Austin's like, man, you you

1789
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: look good. Man, Like I wish they wouldn't have pared

1790
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: me with you to come to this workout because the

1791
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: visual difference, the visual difference is like and I'm like

1792
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: laughing about it. I'm like, hey, man, you know you

1793
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: look good to you did your thing, Like, hey, come on.

1794
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: I got a call a couple days later from the

1795
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: Ravens offering a contract, and it wasn't the contract that

1796
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: I wanted, right. It was a bad deal for me

1797
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: and in my point of my career. And I'm like,

1798
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 2: you know what, but at the end of the day,

1799
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: if I'm going to bet on anybody, I gotta bet

1800
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: on myself. So bet on myself. Took the deal. It

1801
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,879
Speaker 2: was a fourth quarterback on the roster behind Joe Flacco.

1802
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 2: Lamar got drafted. A couple of weeks later, we had

1803
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: Josh Woodrum. It was the third quarterback who had like

1804
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 2: a really great preseason the year before. And there's me

1805
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 2: and I had to fight through a lot. The cool

1806
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: story about that year in twenty eighteen was we played

1807
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: the Dolphins in the third preseason game and coach told

1808
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,719
Speaker 2: me at the beginning of the week, you're not playing

1809
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: this week. So I'm like, you know, complaint. I'm now

1810
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 2: I'm in a situation where I'm like, am I going

1811
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 2: to make the team?

1812
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 4: Like I know, what are they?

1813
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 2: What are they doing here? Like I'm like, this is

1814
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: what I was fearing. Like I didn't want to come

1815
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: back and be put in a situation like that because

1816
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 2: it's not good perception wise for my career. But I'm like,

1817
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 2: all right, you know, maybe it means I'm going to

1818
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 2: make the team, and now they don't need me to

1819
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: play in this game because I've already solidified it right

1820
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: through all these scenarios in your head. I had already

1821
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: solidified I already in the Hall of Fame game played well.

1822
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: I played in the next game against the Colts, played well.

1823
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, I've done my thing. There's

1824
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 2: nowhere they're gonna let me go. So like after I didn't,

1825
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: I didn't practice it all that week, no reps at all.

1826
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm after practice every day, I'm going through the script

1827
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 2: and I'm thrown. I'm like Okay, I'm gonna stay ready

1828
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 2: just in case, right, just in case something happens. It's

1829
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: not like he said, hey, RG, you're not dressing this week.

1830
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 2: He just said, you know, you're not probably not gonna

1831
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 2: play this week. Yeah, And I started that game.

1832
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 3: Hey, way to stay ready though, That's what that's what

1833
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 3: guys don't understand.

1834
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: Is because when your opportunity comes, you don't know. So

1835
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: I stayed ready, I ran through the script, I was thrown,

1836
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: I was doing all these things. And the night, the

1837
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 2: night before the game, he tells me, Hey, we're gonna

1838
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: sit the starters. H So there's a chance that you're

1839
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: gonna play. And I'm like, nowhere is coach. I've been

1840
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 2: staying ready. I'll be good. Day of the game, I

1841
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 2: get a text message, Hey, RG, you're starting tonight. Now.

1842
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 2: This is me starting without the starting left tackle, without

1843
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Marshall Yanda, without the two starting receivers, who at the

1844
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 2: time were Michael Crabtree and John Brown, Smoky and uh

1845
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: going against the Miami Dolphins number one defense Cameron Wake

1846
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: all these guys, you know, just heat seeking missiles off

1847
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 2: the edge, right, and we went out and we moved

1848
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: the ball up and down the field on them, and

1849
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 2: uh played great. And that's why I didn't even have to.

1850
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: We had the Redskins the next week, and everybody's like, oh, man,

1851
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 2: RG is gonna play against the Redskins in the preseason YadA,

1852
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: yaha yah, And coach didn't even play me in that

1853
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: game because I was ready to go against the Dolphins.

1854
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 2: So it was it was a testament. And like for

1855
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: the rest of that year, everybody just kept saying, hey, RG,

1856
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 2: you ready, Yeah, we know you ready, and yeah. It

1857
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: was just a thing with the locker room because they knew, like,

1858
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 2: how's this guy gonna go all week with no reps?

1859
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 2: Start the game, play well, hit the team and and

1860
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: have this comeback story start. First time Baltimore kept three

1861
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks I think in like nine years. It was truly special.

1862
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: So the lowest point for me was probably also the

1863
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: highest point, which was in twenty seventeen. Because you can

1864
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 2: never complain about spending time with your family. You can

1865
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 2: never sure for sure, you know, getting to watch your

1866
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: kids grow. And if I had if I had stayed

1867
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 2: home and been out of football that whole year and

1868
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 2: then lost the passion for the game and just was like, man,

1869
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. You know, I'm gonna

1870
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: go do this. I'm gonna go do that. I'm gonna

1871
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: do this. I wouldn't be playing right now. I didn't

1872
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: lose it. It made the fire inside of me grow

1873
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: even more, and it taught me a lot about myself.

1874
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 2: I just think this is what Goy's called me to do.

1875
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: He didn't be a backup quarterback, but right now, being

1876
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 2: honest with you, right now, that's my role and I'm

1877
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 2: going to be the best at that role. And I

1878
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 2: think if you ask anybody in the Ravens organization, they'll

1879
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 2: tell you. You know, I show up to work every

1880
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 2: single day to go out there and kick ass. I'm

1881
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,879
Speaker 2: not I'm not here to play games because I understand

1882
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: how valuable it is. And I understood it in Washington,

1883
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 2: I understood it in Cleveland. But now having all those

1884
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: experiences in my belt, for understand how valuable this time

1885
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 2: is and how much you have to make the most

1886
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 2: of it.

1887
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: For sure. That's you know.

1888
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 3: I love hearing that, dude, And you said you said

1889
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 3: it earlier, like I learned a lot about myself, Like

1890
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 3: that moment where you prepared that week not knowing if

1891
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 3: you're going to start, because that's how a lot of

1892
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 3: stuff happens for guys, Like your opportunity comes just out

1893
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 3: of nowhere, and if you fail at that opportunity, you

1894
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 3: know how you know how guys are. It's like, yeah,

1895
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 3: but everybody has every reason in the book to say

1896
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: why you failed, but that that is the majority of

1897
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 3: just really life.

1898
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Why the NFL, It's.

1899
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: Like being ready for all these opportunities and that's what's

1900
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 3: gonna happen for you. Like for me, I would have

1901
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: never gotten my shot had Kenan Robinson not tourist Peck.

1902
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 3: The first practice of training camp, I was fourth on

1903
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,799
Speaker 3: the depth chart. Another undrafted guy ahead of me, Jeremy

1904
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 3: Kimbro and he had heard his hamstring right before the

1905
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 3: first preseason game.

1906
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: So I got a shot to play with the twos.

1907
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 3: And then people come up to me like I remember Shanahan, like, oh,

1908
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: I should call you, mister interception because I think I

1909
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: got I picked on off from like you and Kirk

1910
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,919
Speaker 3: one day in practice and you just start getting noticed

1911
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 3: and you're just like you stick to like what you

1912
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 3: were doing, even when you have every reason to like

1913
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 3: doubt yourself, doubt the experience and be like.

1914
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't care if I'm done after this. You know

1915
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1916
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly what you say. I'm gonna go

1917
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 2: ahead and say that you probably didn't pick me off.

1918
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: But it's okay.

1919
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 3: You can say, Hey, I'm gonna have to find that

1920
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 3: film laughing it up. I'm gonna have to hit up

1921
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,719
Speaker 3: Big mic Hey, Big Mike get back in the video.

1922
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. But no, you you you came in and it

1923
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: was it was just like, man, like these opportunities, it's

1924
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: not I wouldn't. I don't want to say fell into

1925
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: your lap, because you definitely earned them. But whenever you

1926
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: have a guy go down in front of you, you

1927
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 2: you're not like, you're not praying for that. You're not

1928
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 2: you know, making that happen. It just happens. And when

1929
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 2: you sat in there, you balled out, you know, like

1930
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 2: after a couple of weeks in training camp and and

1931
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 2: really after the first preseason game, most of us knew

1932
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 2: you were going to make the team.

1933
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 1: It was met.

1934
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: It was just a matter of Okay, well he's undrafted,

1935
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: and they liked this guy, and maybe they paid this

1936
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 2: guy a little more money.

1937
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: For sure, they're going to do.

1938
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: With that guy. It wasn't an issue of did you

1939
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 2: make enough plays? You made enough plays and uh, you

1940
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 2: know that group you you Noiles, d Y and those

1941
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 2: guys were were always like like that. You know what

1942
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It was really cool to see that. But

1943
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 2: the guys have to understand that your opportunity is going

1944
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 2: to come when you least expected. And since that opportunity,

1945
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 2: you know, like like you said, guys will have excuses.

1946
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 2: I could have had the excuse. I could have said, well, coach,

1947
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 2: you didn't give me any reps.

1948
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: Right, if you would have played bad, you would have.

1949
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 2: Every every excuse in the book and every every reason

1950
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: to say this is why I didn't play well. But

1951
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 2: the reason he kept me was because in a regular

1952
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 2: season game, when you're used to being a starter, it's

1953
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,600
Speaker 2: really hard to be a backup. It's really hard to

1954
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 2: be a backup. Yes, and I'm and I'm not saying

1955
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 2: like I'm too good for this, I'm too good for that. No, man,

1956
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: Look this is where I'm at. I'm I'm making the

1957
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: most of it, but this is where I want to be.

1958
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: You weren't the fourth guy on the on the depth

1959
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: chart saying you know what, I'm the fourth guy on

1960
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 2: the depth chart. Yeah, you were saying, I'm better than

1961
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 2: that guy. I'm better than that guy. I'm gonna go

1962
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 2: show it. I'm gonna show it every single day, and

1963
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 2: when my opportunity comes, I'm gonna make the most of it.

1964
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,679
Speaker 2: So they got to see me, with no reps all week,

1965
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 2: go out and perform at a high level. That's exactly

1966
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 2: what every backup QB in the league has to do,

1967
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 2: no reps all week and then go out and play

1968
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: at high level if your number is called. So I

1969
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 2: think that gave them the confidence. And obviously what I've

1970
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 2: done in the past in Washington and in Cleveland, when

1971
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure, also gave them that confidence. But it's just

1972
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 2: I can't stress it enough. You have to be ready.

1973
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this. That is what drove me.

1974
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: That is what drove me in fifteen when I didn't

1975
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: play a down. That's what drove me in sixteen when

1976
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: I broke my shoulder. It's what drove me in seventeen

1977
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 2: when I was out of ball. The only difference for

1978
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 2: me was I let go of DC. I let it go.

1979
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 2: I hadn't let it go yet, and I hadn't let

1980
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 2: it go until twenty seventeen when I was out, and

1981
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 2: I didn't understand how much of a burden that was

1982
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 2: for me. You know, I'm like, it was not fair.

1983
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 2: I didn't get this opportunity. Me and you had the conversation.

1984
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 2: After that conversation, I was like, like, I can't keep

1985
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 2: having this conversation. I can't keep having this conversation, like

1986
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: and just like continue to hold on to that, and

1987
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: it's in it. You know, it's gonna sound cliche, but

1988
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 2: it set me free. It set me free to let

1989
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 2: that go, to say, it happened, you learn from it.

1990
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 2: It happened. Now, what what do you want to do?

1991
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: And I did not want to be the guy that

1992
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: wasn't ready. So if I never played another down in

1993
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: football after seventeen, after sixteen and I was out all seventeen,

1994
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: if I had never played another down, I looked my

1995
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 2: wife in the face and I said, it's not going

1996
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 2: to be because of me. It's not going to be

1997
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 2: because I wasn't ready. It's not gonna be because they

1998
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: offered me a contract, and the ones that I turned

1999
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: down last year, I wasn't going to accept. This year.

2000
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 2: I accepted the offer. I'm like I hate it. It's

2001
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 2: a bad offer, but guess what, I'm gonna go play football.

2002
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and then Lamar's reaction.

2003
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: Two weeks later, Lamar got drafted. Two weeks later, I'm like, mother,

2004
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 2: I know, are they gonna you know? You know how

2005
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 2: it goes, last guy in, first guy out. So I'm

2006
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, all right, well, shoot, I just got signed.

2007
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 2: I was the third one I got signed. Now they

2008
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 2: draft Lamar, I'm the fourth. Are they gonna keep me here?

2009
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 2: And I think the relation, obviously, the obvious thing is

2010
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 2: that we're both African American quarterbacks, both Heisman Trophy winners,

2011
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: and both dual threat quarterbacks. I think that value is

2012
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 2: what saved me, and and my reaction too. If I'd

2013
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 2: have had a bad reaction to it, then I probably

2014
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been in Baltimore. But my reaction and willing

2015
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 2: to be a mentor to him, I think is what

2016
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: kept me in twenty eighteen. And then obviously my play

2017
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 2: helped me make the team and all the other things.

2018
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 3: Everything else is yeah, how is how is your relationship

2019
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 3: with Lamar?

2020
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Obviously good?

2021
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 3: But talk a little bit about Lamar and the steps

2022
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 3: he kind of made you in the year two. We'll

2023
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 3: get into your playoff loss in a second, but I know,

2024
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 3: but talk about Lamar a little bit.

2025
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I would say that. You know, I wasn't sure.

2026
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know much about LJ when

2027
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: he came in, so I wasn't sure you know how

2028
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 2: that was going to be. You know, I'm a guy

2029
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 2: that I'm always competing, you know, right, It's just my nature.

2030
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: It's how I'm how I'm wired. I'm not wired to be,

2031
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 2: you know, a backup. It's just that's how That's why

2032
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 2: teams were reluctant to sign me in seventeen because they

2033
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 2: didn't they didn't want me to come in and they

2034
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: and challenge the starter to the level that they knew

2035
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: I would challenge him, right, But with Lamar, I saw

2036
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 2: that more as an opportunity to really work on myself,

2037
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. Give him the guy said I

2038
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 2: didn't have when I came in, You know, no offense

2039
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 2: to the guys that I had when I came in.

2040
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 2: But I had Rex Grossman and Kirk Cousins, two guys

2041
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 2: that don't play ball like I played ball, two guys

2042
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 2: that don't look like me. Two guys who haven't done

2043
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 2: it the way that I've done it, and it was

2044
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: it was less guidance and more just going out there and.

2045
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 3: Competing every single day, right because one of them, one

2046
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 3: of them was in your draft, like Kirk was in

2047
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 3: your draft class, Like, yeah, a different setup.

2048
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirk was in my draft class. And then Rex was,

2049
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 2: you know, the gun slinger who had been to the

2050
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 2: playoffs with the Bears and was kind of, you know,

2051
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 2: in the tail end of his career and bounced around

2052
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 2: a little bit with with Shannon, just having fun and

2053
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,799
Speaker 2: you know, you know what passes. Yeah, no, look passes

2054
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 2: like Rex was. Don't get me wrong, Rex was awesome.

2055
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 2: Like I enjoyed the time, but it wasn't like I

2056
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 2: had a quarterback to mentor me in the ways that

2057
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: Lamar has had with me over the past years. So

2058
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to be that for him. I let him

2059
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 2: know early on, like, look, man, I'm here for you.

2060
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 2: If you got any questions, you can ask me. I

2061
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: constantly talked to him, but I'm also here to whip

2062
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 2: your ass. Okay, spot, I want that spot, but I'm

2063
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 2: here to help you. And our relationship in year two,

2064
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 2: I believe was better than Year one. Our relationship in

2065
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 2: year one wasn't bad. I think our relationship in year

2066
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: one was good. He came to me, talked to me,

2067
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 2: We talked about different things. I mentored him on certain things.

2068
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: But our relationship last year was was was was light

2069
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 2: years ahead because I felt like a lot in year one,

2070
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: I was having to go to him and say hey, this,

2071
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 2: that and the other. And in year two he was

2072
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: coming to me. He was he was more actively trying

2073
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 2: to learn and ask me questions about certain things. Because

2074
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 2: he constantly reminds me of this. He says, hey, man,

2075
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: I ain't forgot you r G three like, and it

2076
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 2: makes me laugh because I'm like, yo, am I really

2077
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 2: that old? Like? Am I that old that he does that?

2078
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 2: He sees me that way, and you know, he does

2079
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 2: see me that way. He sees me as as RG three,

2080
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 2: And I think in year two he started to see

2081
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 2: me as a brother. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

2082
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 2: And that's what I want for him. Like I told

2083
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 2: him the other day, I wanted our Zoom meetings. I said, look, man,

2084
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,720
Speaker 2: this has been awesome to be a part of this

2085
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 2: with you, to watch you blossom from year one a

2086
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 2: year two and go win the MVP and and put

2087
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 2: up the numbers that you put up from all the

2088
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 2: hard work that you've done. And I let him know, like, Bro,

2089
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 2: that is you. You know that that's not me, That's

2090
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 2: not the quarterback coach or the offensive coordinator anyone else.

2091
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: That is you. Now everyone has a part in it, correct,

2092
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: that is that is what you've done. And I told

2093
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 2: him it's been fun to be a part of that,

2094
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, And I hit him with the classic I

2095
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 2: don't plan on being the backup for forever, but it's

2096
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 2: been fun. And he laughs, and then he comes back

2097
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 2: and he says the thing that like means the most

2098
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 2: to me, you know, Like he's like, look, man, it's

2099
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 2: not just me. I needed you you guys to get

2100
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 2: it done. And I want you to know that this

2101
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: is us. And I'm like that means a lot, right,

2102
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 2: you know, I can always I was talking to a

2103
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 2: guy in the building about us, said, look, I want

2104
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 2: to win a super Bowl and I want to be

2105
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. But if there's ever a place that

2106
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: I want to win a super Bowl and I have

2107
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 2: to be a backup, it'd be Baltimore. You know what

2108
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't think you have access to themselves.

2109
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 2: I just want to win a Super Bowl. I don't

2110
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: care how I get it done. It's a special moment

2111
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 2: no matter what. But I feel like the bond I

2112
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 2: have here in Baltimore, with the team, with the organization,

2113
01:45:56,200 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 2: with the starting quarterback makes it that much more special.

2114
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2115
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's been. It's been a great relationship, man.

2116
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 2: And I never in a million years thought from twenty

2117
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 2: twelve to twenty twenty that I'd ever be in this position, right,

2118
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But now that I'm in

2119
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 2: this position currently, uh, I don't think that there'd be

2120
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 2: a better situation for me to be in, uh where

2121
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm at. You know, we had a hell of a

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Speaker 1: That'll be my last question.

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Speaker 2: We had a hell of a year and I think

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Speaker 2: I played more than any backup quarterback that didn't have

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. It's like a high school

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Speaker 2: them idea should I say, because you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just been chilling. Hey, someone wore me up.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The craziest thing was like the Miami game, first game

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Speaker 1: Y'all were like the skuad dude like defense offense, like.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna lie. We were on a roll offensively and defensively,

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Speaker 2: and you know it was. It was a sad scene

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01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 2: on the sideline, very sad, feel like it was a

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Speaker 2: bye week. I think it was. I don't want to

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01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 2: say that, you know, I know It's.

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Speaker 3: So hard because when you get to that spot, you

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Speaker 3: want the bye week for your body. Yeah, but then

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Speaker 3: when you say, like you guys lost, like hindsight is like,

2220
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 3: was our momentum gone from having a bye week?

2221
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Honest, you know, I don't know. I don't know, because

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Speaker 2: I know coaches wrestled with this a bunch because we

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01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: That's true, that's right. I forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: We had for for so for the I wouldn't say

2227
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 2: the majority of the guys, but for you know, seven

2228
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 2: eight nine guys they had two by weeks, and uh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if our momentum was gone. I just

2230
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 2: think that. You know, it's gonna be sound real clich ish,

2231
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Speaker 2: but when things are supposed to happen for you, they

2232
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 2: happened for you, right. You know, I look at it

2233
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Speaker 2: from from Washington. Washington wasn't meant to be at that time,

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01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: so I had to go on a journey to get

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Speaker 2: somewhere else, and then from Baltimore had to go on

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01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 2: journal to get somewhere else. Yeah, saying all that, Man,

2237
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 2: it was tough, bro, I know it was tough, bro.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was I'm like on the sideline, like

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Speaker 2: trying to reverse time or something, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like it was a bunch of dominoes too, right, we

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Speaker 2: had like all we had a turnover, then we had

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Speaker 2: a turnover on downs and like when you look up,

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Speaker 2: it's like twenty one and nothing, and you're and you're

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Speaker 2: a run based team, right and you're down twenty one

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Speaker 2: and nothing, and and it might be still first or

2246
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Speaker 2: second quarter, but people are already thinking there's no way

2247
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 2: we can come back from this. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: the players are thinking that, because you know, that's a

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Speaker 2: different breed and how we think. Right, it was, it

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Speaker 2: was tough, man Like. I don't know how to describe it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it happened other than the fact

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01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 2: that they punched us in the mouth and they kept

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Speaker 2: punching us in the mouth. That Derek, I'm not going there, bro,

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01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 2: that's my teammates, right, I'm not uh. And I think

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Speaker 2: in any of the guys that tell you you have

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Speaker 2: to give credit with credits to you know, they came

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Speaker 2: into our house and they beat us. Yeah, they didn't

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Speaker 2: just beat us, they beat us up and I think

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Speaker 2: that's why you saw some of the moves in the

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Speaker 2: offseason that we made defensively. You know, you bringing Derek Wolf,

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Speaker 2: you bring Kalas Campbell, you signed Marcus Peters to an extension,

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Speaker 2: you know, all these different things. You bring back Jimmy Smith,

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we we have you know, you what

2264
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Speaker 2: did they say we need to help with linebackers whatever

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Speaker 2: may be? You draft two young linebackers from two prestigious programs,

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Speaker 2: and guys that are ballers, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: These guys are really good player right right? And offensively,

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Speaker 2: you add more speed, you know, you you create more mismatches.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you want Marshall back. Right, if I'm playing GM,

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Speaker 2: you want Marshall back. You offer Marshall thirty million to.

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Speaker 1: Come back for one more Hall of Famer bro No doubt.

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Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Famer, heck of a player. But

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Speaker 2: you know he took that thirty million and turned it

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Speaker 2: into you know, forty five pounds and looks like a

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Speaker 2: teenage boy. Now I don't know what that is going on,

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Speaker 2: but uh it's uh I think are you know? Eric

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Speaker 2: Decasa has done an amazing job. You know, he's a

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Speaker 2: guy that believed in me, brought me, brought me in

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Speaker 2: when uh, you know, other teams wouldn't. So I trust

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Speaker 2: the guy, trust what they're doing, and they're building a

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Speaker 2: team that will be able to overcome some of the

2282
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Speaker 2: downfalls that we had in the playoffs, and that's the

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Speaker 2: only thing you can do. But I know, I know

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Speaker 2: those are your boys, So you're like, you're probably like, heck, yeah,

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01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 2: you know, my guy's got them. But Lawan, man, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was on one that game. He was He's on

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Speaker 2: one every.

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Speaker 1: Game, so I know, I mean, I was surprised. I

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised. Like watching obviously, because you're going into

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Speaker 3: that game. You know, the Raiders we didn't go to

2292
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, so you're sitting back watching and you're like, ah,

2293
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 3: they probably won't make it past the Ravens.

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01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: Like them. Ravens are like this team. And then it

2295
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: was happening.

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Speaker 3: You're like, holy shit, man, like, yo, these boys got

2297
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Speaker 3: a legit shot. They beat New England, they beat y'all.

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01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 3: It's like, Yo, these boys got a legit shot.

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Speaker 2: I was. I would say that you could probably you know,

2300
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 2: from my perspective, you could feel the tension on the

2301
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Speaker 2: field like everyone knew this is not supposed to be happening,

2302
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Speaker 2: like this is this is our year, you know, big

2303
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 2: truss all that where everybody's saying it whoo whoop. And

2304
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 2: we weren't a team that was like hot and cold,

2305
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we were just.

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01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 2: We're just a hot team, and we were doing it

2308
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: in a bruising fashion.

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Speaker 4: You know.

2310
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes you see teams that throw the ball a lot,

2311
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 2: they cool down a little bit and yea, you got

2312
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 2: better defenses, people know your scheme, YadA YadA yah. But

2313
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: we were just you know, bruising and you know, high flying,

2314
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 2: big plays here and there. But really the basis of

2315
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 2: what we did was running the rock, and uh, it was.

2316
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 1: It was.

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01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: It was very weird. Let me put it that way.

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01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 2: I didn't expect it. I won't say we weren't ready,

2319
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: because we were ready, you know. So this wasn't uh,

2320
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 2: you know, no NFL teams like this. And I don't

2321
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 2: want to, you know, make this guy sound bad, but

2322
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't Buster Douglas beating Tyson. Yeah, any any NFL

2323
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 2: team can beat a team on any given Sunday. Every

2324
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 2: team has talent. But we were like the you know

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Speaker 2: the Tyson, the Holy you know, the Holy Field of Ali.

2326
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 2: We were that brand and we just we got hit

2327
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 2: in the face. Man, like they just beat us. There's

2328
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 2: no other explanation. That week of practice. I'm like, we're ready.

2329
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the super Bowl. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: blessed enough to put on that Super Bowl had and

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Speaker 2: then we're gonna win the damn super Bowl. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't meant to be last year. But nobody

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Speaker 2: saying we can't do it this here and I think

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Speaker 2: our guys are hungry, so you know that's that. But

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Speaker 2: I love I love my team. These guys are awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's what you see on TV from them is exactly

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Speaker 2: who they are, right. Mark Ingram is hilarious, big ball

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Speaker 2: of energy, and Justin Tucker is cringeworthy, funny. That's that's

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Speaker 2: what he does.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's awesome. Well, shoot, man, I appreciate you

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Speaker 3: coming on, bro, we putting.

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Speaker 1: Some time on this thing.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man. You I'm happy for you. Bro. I

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01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 2: feel like you're you're killing it. I want you to

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01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: keep playing, obviously because I want us to, you know,

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Speaker 2: ride this thing out. As as long as you possibly can.

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Speaker 2: But you know, what you're doing in your your second

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Speaker 2: career is incredible and I'm happy for you.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Brother.

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Speaker 1: When you come to Nashville, you're gonna have to get

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Speaker 1: on the bus with the boy.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 3: Well, we'll have to get like, get d Wyan, maybe Niles,

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Speaker 3: get just tell some stories.

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Speaker 2: Bro, We got to bring in Dyniles and then we

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01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 2: got to get the guy who doesn't talk very much.

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Speaker 2: If for Mores to come in with us, yes, yes, dude,

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Speaker 2: that'll be awesome.

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Speaker 1: All right, brother, love you, man. I appreciate you too.

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Speaker 2: Man, God bless you.

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Speaker 1: See you.

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Speaker 6: Bro, Guys, gals, people of all ages appreciate you so

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Speaker 6: much for tuning in to another episode of Busting with

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Speaker 6: the Boys. If you haven't yet, please subscribe to the

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Speaker 6: episode on Apple, Podcast, Spotify, whatever platform you're on.

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Speaker 3: We're on there.

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Speaker 6: We have a YouTube channel Busting with the Boys. We

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Speaker 6: would love if you subscribe there as well. If you

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Speaker 6: are subscribed and you want to be a more for

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Speaker 6: the boys, unsubscribe and resubscribe again. It sounds funny and

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Speaker 6: stupid and kind of obnoxious, but all of your subscriptions

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Speaker 6: and resubscribing and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It helps in these little algorithm.

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Speaker 6: Games for climbing charts. Because again, we're very organic, you guys.

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Speaker 6: Where we're at is because of you guys, So we

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Speaker 6: like to keep it fucking organic and just from.

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Speaker 3: Us and us versus the world.

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Speaker 2: But we really do.

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01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 3: We really appreciate your guys and support. A few of

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Speaker 3: you had questions about merchandise.

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Speaker 5: You can go.

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Speaker 6: Our merchandise store is on barstoolsports dot com. Go over

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Speaker 6: to shop and we are under the brand Bustle with

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Speaker 6: the Boys. You can find all of our gear there.

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Speaker 6: We restart constantly.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you guys have any ideas, shout us out.

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Speaker 3: If you guys buy the gear, shout us out. We

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Speaker 3: really do love and you guys talk.

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Speaker 6: Back to us, add us, mention us, put us on

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Speaker 6: your stories, tagets, all that fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: We like grabbing that stuff and putting it.

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Speaker 3: On our YouTube episodes and again, we just love it.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: We love you guys.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 6: Keep being for the fucking boys, Keep being a wolf.

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01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 6: The biggest of hugs and the tiniest of kisses.

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Speaker 3: We love you, We appreciate you. Tune in next week

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Speaker 3: for another episode of Bust with the Boys,