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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pilla, Sero, Judy Matista,

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, and Mike Garafolo. If you are listening to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, this is part two of the two part

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Speaker 1: Monday podcast.

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Speaker 2: We do every week.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what order you listen to them. There's different

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Speaker 1: subject matter on each one. Stick around for this one,

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Speaker 1: go back to the first one, whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 1: For those of you watch us on the NFL channel

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Speaker 1: on fast streaming platforms, Welcome back for those of us

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Speaker 1: those of you on YouTube, Yes I did that in

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Speaker 1: part one and part two. Confused am I watching or

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Speaker 1: am I part of it? Let's just say it's both.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the Baltimore Ravens, who we all knew

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Speaker 1: coming into Week eight needed a win in the worst way,

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Speaker 1: and we thought, for a variety of reasons that that

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Speaker 1: would be involving Lamar Jackson's returny and it did not happen,

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Speaker 1: despite being listened as a full participant in practice, despite

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Speaker 1: John Harbass and even back before the buye that he

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Speaker 1: anticipated Lamar playing against the Bears. But the first sign,

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Speaker 1: I mean that something was amiss was Saturday morning and

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Speaker 1: you had a report that Lamar was taking practice squad reps.

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Speaker 1: Take me through what happens from there and how we

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Speaker 1: really got to this point of now continuing to speculate

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Speaker 1: about whether or not Lamar is gonna play this coming

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Speaker 1: week on Thursday night against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really fascinating, kind of weird situation. So I'm checking

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Speaker 3: in Saturday morning just to make sure everything's fine. Like

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Speaker 3: I think, like a lot of people, I assumed Lamar

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Speaker 3: Jackson was going to play on Sunday, and so I

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Speaker 3: check in with people who I think would know, and

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Speaker 3: I say, it's making sure Lamar is good. And the

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Speaker 3: response I got from one person was like, yeah, like

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Speaker 3: had a good week, had a good day of practice

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Speaker 3: on Friday, no issues, ran the scout team And I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: wait what And so then I checked, Yes, Lamar ran

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Speaker 3: the scout team. I'm like, okay, that seems to be

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Speaker 3: that he is not playing. So I checked with someone

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Speaker 3: else and the response I got was he's out and

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Speaker 3: it's going to be snoop hunting. So I put it

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Speaker 3: all together there, check with a couple more people, and

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Speaker 3: then the tweeting that Lamar Jackson ran the scout team

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Speaker 3: and that was his participation right, And so I tweeted

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Speaker 3: as an indication I don't know for sure for sure,

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Speaker 3: but as an indication he's unlikely to play. You guys

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Speaker 3: both text me. I think Tom might have texted first,

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Speaker 3: but Mike was on the same page. Hang on, why

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Speaker 3: was he listed as full? And I say to you

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Speaker 3: guys privately, well, he's full because he took all his

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Speaker 3: reps and you say, okay, but that's not what full means.

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Speaker 2: And I was interjected really quickly that.

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Speaker 1: Then there were twenty texts where as my lights just

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Speaker 1: got turned off back there, want to just go ahead

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Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun, very romantic.

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Speaker 1: There were solely twenty texts of you going, what do

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Speaker 1: you mean he was full? He was taking full practice club.

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Speaker 1: It's like no QB one you take normal reps. QB

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Speaker 1: one takes QB one reps. That's literally how this works,

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Speaker 1: which makes it yeah, it is just it's policy.

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Speaker 3: And it became never as I don't know that it's

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Speaker 3: ever come up like like, I've never at least I've

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Speaker 4: Saying that you should know it. The team knows it's writing.

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Speaker 3: I should we report on these things, just like we

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Speaker 3: should know what injuries are like, like honestly, like I

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Speaker 3: should know, and now I do know in interesting fashion.

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Speaker 3: So then start to hear like, all right, the Ravens

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Speaker 3: are going to make a change. They change Lamar's status,

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Speaker 3: he's limited, he's out, stup, Punley is the starter, and

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Speaker 3: then plays well enough to win and they are somehow

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait to see how the league addresses

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Speaker 5: this issue with the injury reporting, because especially in the

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Speaker 5: current climate, I mean the whole, the whole point of

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Speaker 5: the injury.

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Speaker 4: Reporting is for gambling purposes, to insulate everything.

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Speaker 2: In a week where there was some news about that,

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Speaker 5: A significant gambling scandal in the headlines, in that climate,

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Speaker 5: I would expect that the league will be very careful

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Speaker 5: and does not look kindly on poor injury reporting.

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Speaker 4: However it happened, whether it was.

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Speaker 5: An innocent mistake some would have you believe, or whether

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Speaker 5: however it happened. Yeah, it's troubling, and I'm very curious

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Speaker 5: to see how the league addresses.

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Speaker 2: It, Judy, how many.

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Speaker 5: Has they've had to addressed it before They've they've done

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Speaker 5: it before with teams. They have given big finds to

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Speaker 5: teams that have played around with the jury report.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like correcting it doesn't help.

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Speaker 6: It's not like we'll tell our kids they don't get it,

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Speaker 6: but would tell them, like if you make a mistake,

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Speaker 6: just just tell them me, and it'd be worse if

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Speaker 6: it's almost like, well, they addressed it and they changed it,

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Speaker 6: but it's still like in a week where everything happened,

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Speaker 6: you're talking about uh, related to gambling and related to

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Speaker 6: what's happening in the NBA. Like it's too late, it

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Speaker 6: doesn't all that doesn't matter. How many head coaches have

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Speaker 6: you covered in.

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Speaker 1: Your kay whatever, any stories are over, we're back, Yeah, Judy,

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Speaker 1: how many head coaches have you covered in your career?

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Speaker 7: I mean we're talking hundreds right between. Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 6: Your experience with head coaches, they tend to know a

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Speaker 6: lot of things about what's happening in the billboard.

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Speaker 2: Like just you don't have to answer any of these.

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Speaker 7: I'm just speaking out.

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Speaker 2: Like the notion that's something as important as the injury report.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's not me. I don't I don't think like these.

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Speaker 2: Dudes know what's being served for lunch.

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Speaker 6: I did a tour of the facility one time with

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Speaker 6: Sean Payton, and as Steve Smith and I were station

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Speaker 6: there for training camp, he gave us an entire like

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Speaker 3: And wasn't there a story about Sean Payton seeing terrible

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Speaker 1: What was that story? And he was like, hold on,

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Speaker 1: here's my main question. Okay, because remember this begins with

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Speaker 1: Lamar was out there, he was full, right, That's where

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Speaker 1: full initially came from, and then that's reflected on the report.

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Speaker 2: My question is.

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Speaker 1: This, If Lamar was taking every rep on the scout team,

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Speaker 1: what is holding him back from taking every rep in

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Speaker 1: they do have a short week before Thursday game. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of different factors involved. Lamar's on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: you know, and listen, Snowputley went out and did what

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Speaker 1: out and play pretty well. But it's still unusual, and

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Speaker 1: everything with Lamar is a little bit different. You're never

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Speaker 2: That's worked very welfare.

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Speaker 1: But what is your understanding of why he ultimately did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a good question, and I knew, I

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Speaker 3: Lamar was going to play Sunday. There is nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with him not playing. We do see this from time

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Speaker 3: So if he doesn't feel ready, then he's just not

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Speaker 3: going to play well and he's not ready. That is okay.

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Speaker 3: The expectation game was harder because coming out of going

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Speaker 3: that means he's playing. He didn't feel ready, he didn't

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, now that Thursday night game is against the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: speculating since probably before the season began about Mike McDaniel's

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you watched the game yesterday Judy for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and it's like, that's the team that Mike

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Speaker 1: practice like he looked like the old Tua. You never

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Speaker 1: But one eye swollen shut when he woke up in

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Speaker 1: all that was the Tua and that was the offense

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Speaker 1: that we've all been been waiting for.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I assume he's going to just have to

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Speaker 5: wear Advisor forever now, right, Like this is the new thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I again, I was following the scores, you know,

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Speaker 5: can they replicate this. I mean, did something did they

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Speaker 5: they've gotten past whatever was happening and now Tua is fine?

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Speaker 5: I mean they turned the ball over right, tu ahead?

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Speaker 5: How many turnovers in the last two with something we did?

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Speaker 5: game of the year again. My only question watching all

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Speaker 5: of it is now is that the Dolphins and going forward?

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Speaker 4: Is that the Dolphins team that it's going to be?

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Speaker 4: Because you know, that's a pretty good Dolphins game.

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Speaker 2: They're two and six.

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Speaker 1: They got their work cut out for him to try

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Speaker 1: to claw their way back into this thing. But again,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're evaluating the programmingan like as you

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Speaker 1: he's a courseman and an owner who's shown a lot

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Speaker 1: of patience, like this is what you want to see.

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Speaker 2: Like, you want consistency. The highser great.

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Speaker 6: Still got to be a one in sixteen coming in

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Speaker 7: If you think you're a playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Make a difference here in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because let's be real, they're not one player away, right,

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Speaker 4: Know, we're in the NFC mix. They're not.

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Speaker 3: How many like you know, baseball does war, Like what

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Speaker 7: You know, what do you like? You like the fact

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Speaker 2: And I'll re recreate dinosaurs from We're going to need

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Speaker 3: I got into something weird, alright, dinosaurs?

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is real and he is spectacular. Mike I

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Speaker 1: I'll believe another running back wins MVP when I see it.

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Speaker 1: But what he's doing, the pace that he is on

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Speaker 8: What right now is like a record breaking historic offense

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Speaker 7: Who the wall was.

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Speaker 1: Predicting this from Jonathan Taylor along with Daniel Jones, huge

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Speaker 1: That's why didn't win it last year? Can't win it?

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Speaker 6: I've maintained this about Daniel Jones. When everything is right

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Speaker 2: Dude, my uncle asked me the other day.

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Speaker 6: To me, I'm not This is gonna almost sound backwards

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Speaker 7: You can see that that continues to grow.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other question, now that Ke's being raised because

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Speaker 1: like the Bills yesterday get back on track. At what

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Speaker 1: point do we reach a world where people are actually

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Speaker 1: Judy going to say the Colts are the best team

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Speaker 1: in the AFC or the Colts are the favorite.

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Speaker 2: I still don't have a game.

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Speaker 4: They have a game against the Chiefs coming up in

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Speaker 4: a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Weeks, right, that will help do But the Bills tam

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Speaker 1: saw yesterday against the Panthers. Is anybody taking the Colts

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Speaker 1: against that Bills team that coming off the buy yesterday

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Speaker 1: looked like more a lot more like the Bills that

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Speaker 1: we're accustomed to see.

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Speaker 5: Probably not, but I think you probably have to see

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Speaker 5: more consistency from the Bills before you're convinced that the

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Speaker 4: To me, that game against.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs, the Colts Chiefs game in two weeks, We'll

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Speaker 5: tell us an awful lot because we know what the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs are, right, we know where the Chiefs are going

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Speaker 5: to be, We know what they've got that's going to

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Speaker 5: tell you how the Colts measure up.

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Speaker 2: And you're muted. I think he even broke his microphone.

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Speaker 2: Did you see what he mute? An hour?

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Speaker 7: Now you go.

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Speaker 3: Now you're back.

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Speaker 1: We were all washing whenever you dumped it, and then

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Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out what you did.

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Speaker 3: So what I did was I was wildly gesticulating and

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Speaker 3: I hit hit a button and I was like, did

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Speaker 3: I just meet myself? But you I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: talk because you couldn't tell. So I was like, I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna wait, and if I talk and you can't

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Speaker 3: hear me, I guess I'm muted. And I was, in

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Speaker 3: fact muted.

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Speaker 2: U gesticulating and get there.

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Speaker 3: I had a report on Sunday about the Colts wanting

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Speaker 3: to lock in Daniel Jones to a long term extension

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Speaker 3: after the season, and it was so obvious to me.

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Speaker 3: I also didn't say anything. Now it. You know, did

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Speaker 3: well online, so go me. But it's amazing that we

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Speaker 3: got to this point where it is obvious that Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones is going to sign with the Colts and be

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Speaker 3: with them long term. It's amazing because of all it means.

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Speaker 3: It means Anthony Richardson not the franchise quarterback, it means

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has played his way into huge money. It

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Speaker 3: means he's a bona fide starter. And these things are

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Speaker 3: so obvious now that I almost didn't say anything. And

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Speaker 3: that is the crazy thing of the whole NFL season.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. That's it's all true, and it's amazing,

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Speaker 3: and Daniel Jones is a good guy and I'm happy

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Speaker 3: for him, and it's an amazing season.

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Speaker 5: With the Actually the craziest thing of the NFL season,

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Speaker 5: I saw this online Curly or Say Gordon, who is

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Speaker 5: the owner of the team now, the eldest sister or

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Speaker 5: the eldest daughter of Jim Mersey has been on the

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Speaker 5: sideline and has been all season. And she was seen

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Speaker 5: yesterday like taking notes in a little notebook. Right she's

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Speaker 5: writing whatever she's writing down. Who knows, And at the

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Speaker 5: beginning of the season. When she first took over, people

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Speaker 5: were like, oh my god, this is ridiculous. An owner like,

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Speaker 5: what a joke this is going to be. This is

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Speaker 5: an absolute farce. She shouldn't be down there and now.

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Speaker 5: Literally the comment to her writing notes was, look at

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Speaker 5: how many bad owners we have in the NFL. More

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Speaker 5: owners should be doing this. She's on top of things,

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Speaker 5: she's taking notes on what and I was like, there

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Speaker 5: you go. That is NFL fandom in a nutshell right.

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Speaker 1: In credit to Carly, this is not a process that

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Speaker 1: started this year. She spent years with scouts and understanding

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Speaker 1: every aspect of the football operation and how they view

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Speaker 1: players in evaluation and coaching. She was ready for that moment.

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Speaker 1: We all, of course wish that moment had not come

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Speaker 1: so soon, But it's a pretty fun story right now

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Speaker 1: that is brewing in Indianapolis, all right. Insiders every Tuesday,

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