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Speaker 1: said Tyreek Hill or Saquan or Debo. Why wouldn't I put,

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Speaker 1: like Fred Warner, Roquan Smith, one of my best defenders

428
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: back there to try to make a tackle because it's

429
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: just an open field tackle. I don't have to worry

430
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: about him having some crazy collision. It's really more diagnosed

431
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: shed make a guy miss make an open field tackle.

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Speaker 1: I think the uh. I think we're gonna see some

433
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: big name players I don't mean all the time, but

434
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: throughout the season play on this unit. One. I would

435
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: actually bet a lot of money right now that we

436
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: constantly see impact players in closer games, second half on

437
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: this unit. Some other stuff going around the National Football

438
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: League today, obviously a lot of coaches taught. I mean

439
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: every coach talked to Alaska. I mean, the best thing

440
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: I saw, without a question was when a reporter as

441
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton if it was a tough decision given the

442
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: cap hit that the Denver Broncos would take to cut

443
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He said, no, that was it. I really appreciate,

444
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think we get this enough in pro sports.

445
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's so sensitive of like some people just don't like

446
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, I've been in free agency meetings, I've

447
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: been around NFL coaches they talk a lot of shit

448
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: about players. They don't think you're any good. Yet they

449
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: would never say it if you put a mic in

450
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: front of them, yet they all think it. And same

451
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: goes for players. A ton of players hate a ton

452
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: of coaches, but if you ever interviewed them, they would be, Eh,

453
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: that guy's good, you know, is very rare, Like when

454
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy was crushing Eric the enemy. It's very rare.

455
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: It's easy to crush a coach you don't know, but

456
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: a coach you played for, coordinator or head coach to

457
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: be critical of them, it really happens. And most coaches

458
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: are just beat around the bush when it comes to

459
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: players they don't like. So I appreciate this, I really do.

460
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: It's why going back to Sean Payton talking shit about

461
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett to what happened, we need more of this,

462
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: We need more crazy like this is all entertainment, and

463
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: I think sometimes coaches can be so cliche driven and

464
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: so boring, like that's not how they actually think, that's

465
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: not what they're acting actually saying when they're sitting with

466
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Speaker 1: their GM or their coordinators. I want that guy right.

467
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: It's what we used to get with hard Knocks. Why

468
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Speaker 1: I said I was kind of out on Hard Knocks

469
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: because back in the day, in Hard Knocks, you kind

470
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: of got this raw, unfiltered feel for the staff that

471
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: you just don't get anymore. And that's clearly gone because

472
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: everyone is like walking on eggshells, like I can't offend

473
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: this guy. Sure you can't. I mean, who cares. We're

474
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: all human beings. Just talk how you talk, and people

475
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: are not willing to do that except Sean Payton, who's

476
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: clearly the throwback of Bill Parcells still in the NFL.

477
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: Speaking of a guy who's somewhat of a loose cannon,

478
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, he admitted it was Brian Dabele. There

479
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: was an ESPN dot com article that says he basically

480
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: he acknowledges that he needs to work on his emotions

481
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: and calm down. John Morris said the same thing, like

482
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: sometimes I would like day Ball to calm down a

483
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: little bit. There was a moment, actually, I think I

484
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: said this at the Combine when I got an elevator

485
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: and he walked and he came right he was looking

486
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: at me, walked in and I was getting ready, like

487
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna lie into me for what I had

488
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Speaker 1: said on the podcast that went viral and Giants Land,

489
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Speaker 1: and I know for a fact that they were talking

490
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Speaker 1: about it in the building and he was asking people

491
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: and I was ready listen I said it. So it's

492
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: like if he had a problem with it and he

493
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Speaker 1: wanted to take issue with me, like part of being

494
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Speaker 1: fucking part of the business, Like what am I gonna do? Uh?

495
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: Even because I do, It's not like I take back

496
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: anything I said. I was right about everything I said.

497
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: But he has the right to defend himself for get mad.

498
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: Like I would have had no problem with it. He

499
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: was like, hey, what's up? And uh, obviously there are

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00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: I think two versions of this guy, the version that

501
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: you get in the you know, the coaching staff, and

502
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: the way he acts, not even on game day. It's

503
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: not a sustainable way to operate. It really isn't. There's

504
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with as a head coach quote unquote being

505
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: considered an asshole. Sometimes you have to tell people things

506
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: they don't want to hear. Coaches and players part of

507
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: the deal, part of the hierarchy of the way the

508
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: sport is set up. You're not You're gonna be not happy.

509
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: Go lucky twenty four to seven three sixty five. There's

510
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure, like everything is about and comes

511
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: to you like you're the decision maker. But his emotions,

512
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: even he acknowledged, are completely out of control too often.

513
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: And my take is, listen, I've dealt with emotions my

514
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: entire life, controlling them, knowing when to harness them, not

515
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: losing my cool. It's not easy to do. It really isn't.

516
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: And the only way you can improve on it is

517
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: when you're in those situations. Like you can't practice it.

518
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't believe you can consciously think about, you know,

519
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: whether it's taking deep breath or relaxing a little bit.

520
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: But if your personality oftentimes is your personality, like that's

521
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: who you are, right, Dan Campbell energetic screamer, right, Bill

522
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Belichick kind of quiet, more cerebral, Andy Reid, Pete Carroll

523
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: much more positive, happy, go lucky guys kind of are

524
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: who you are, especially the older you get. Most human beings,

525
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: especially successful rich ones which Brian Daball is definitely a

526
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: wealthy one, don't typically change at fifty. They can try.

527
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we all try to change and get better.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a difficult proposition, especially when pressure

529
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: comes in and let's face it, they're gonna have a

530
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: ton of pressure. And the other thing is like are

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Speaker 1: they any good? I know their defensive line is pretty

532
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: good on paper, but is their offense any good? They

533
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: easily lost their most productive player over the last couple

534
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: of years. They keep saying over and over that Daniel

535
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Jones going to be their starting quarterback. I don't know.

536
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a very very difficult situation. I know

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Speaker 1: John Morris said they can take quarterback if they want

538
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback. If I'm Brian Dable, I don't like.

539
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: In theory, yeah, it makes a lot of sense, but like,

540
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: what if I'm not here to coach this quarterback in

541
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: a year because we win five games? Again, that's a

542
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: major problem. I'd much rather just have a receiver or

543
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Rock Bowers or an impact player who can help me win.

544
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: In Week one, Robert Craft was kind of cornered like

545
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: a lot of owners by the local media and discussed

546
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: the Dynasty, and he said that he really liked the

547
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: first three episodes and he wished they would have focused

548
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot more on, you know, the winning streak and

549
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls instead of a lot of the controversial topics.

550
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: But then if you've watched it, And Mike Florio pointed

551
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: this out in one of his blogs that at the

552
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: end of every episode it says Craft Dynasty LLC. Now,

553
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: no one truly asked him, like what's his involvement? Was

554
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: he a producer? Does he own the documentary? But clearly

555
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: he was involved financially with this documentary. And I played

556
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: golf last week with a guy from Boston and he says,

557
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: all the radio shows are talking about it back there,

558
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: all his buddies are talking about it. They all think

559
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: like the word is in. Any Patriot fan knows they

560
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: use this to try to help get Craft, like Craft

561
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: did this to try to get into the Hall of Fame.

562
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: So it's like Robert, you can't act like yeah, you know,

563
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: it makes Bill look bad. I wish that would have

564
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: done this and this like, well, what's your involvement? I

565
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: think that I think the Crafts are in for one

566
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: of the greatest come to Jesus moments in the history

567
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: of ownership. I've seen it before firsthand. When the forty

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00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: nine ers ran Jim Harbaugh out of town. They hired

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Speaker 1: Jim tom Sula and they went through one of the

570
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: the worst two year stretches in the history of the franchise.

571
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: They were a joke, it was, and Jed was getting destroyed.

572
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying Drid Mayo is Jim tom Suwa.

573
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a high level guy. I think he's

574
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: smarter than Jim Tom Sula. But one the picture did

575
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: him knows was not good for him at the owner's meetings.

576
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Look like he wore a T shirt, didn't even know

577
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: what was going on. They don't have a g even

578
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: though Elliott Wolf technically is kind of running it, I

579
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: think Jonathan Craft clearly is kind of in control. I

580
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: would short the Patriots hard for the next couple of years.

581
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really, really, really ugly. And

582
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: I think that Craft and Listen, I don't blame them

583
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: for getting rid of Bill. Like things come to an end.

584
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: You had two and a half decades worth of kicking ass,

585
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: making money, winning Super Bowls, and then Brady laughed and

586
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: it ended. Welcome to sports. But it just feels something's off.

587
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: And I think these owners and everyone's been talking about

588
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: this around the Patriots, they wanted their team back. They

589
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: wanted their team back. You know what, the best owners do.

590
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: They let their coaches and personnel people run everything and

591
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: they just print the money. They own the team, they

592
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: sign every check. It's your fucking team. Yeah. Okay, now

593
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: you have a guy who's nice to you, smiles in

594
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: the hallway. Great. It's about winning and losing. That's all

595
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: that matters. And last, but not least, I saw Drake

596
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Greenlaw had one of probably the more famous injuries in

597
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl ever because he tore his achilles running

598
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: out to the huddle. I don't think we've ever seen

599
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: that before. The forty nine ers also had one of

600
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: their coaches, the dB coach, tear his achilles on the

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: sideline celebrating an interception. And I heard this at the

602
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and then I heard this again at the

603
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: Combine that the forty nine ers believe. Remember they were

604
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: mad about the field. The Chiefs got the Raiders, which

605
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Al Davis is still rolling over in his grave that

606
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, while they were winning a Super Bowl and

607
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: preparing for a Super Bowl, used his facility. But they

608
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: got an NFL facility, which Andy told me it's the

609
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: nicest thing he's ever seen. And the forty nine Ers

610
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: got unlvs, which basically might as well be like a

611
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: D seven football program right now. And they were complaining

612
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: that the turf was just not up to stay. They

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00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: brought in some grass, they didn't they didn't feel comfortable

614
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: and keep down. They blamed Dre Greenlaw's achilles injury, just

615
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: like they blame their assistant coaches achilles injury on the

616
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: wear and tear on this weird field. Now. I don't

617
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: know if that's true or not, but they believe that.

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00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Here's what I know would be a simple solution. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to the if you're having a Super Bowl

620
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and you're going to a place like Vegas or a

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Speaker 1: city that does not have Alabama or Ohio State or

622
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: like USC, like a legitimate college that's like competing for

623
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: national championships that has basically the facilities like an NFL

624
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: team would have, you have to split the NFL facility.

625
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: This is what they should have done. Vegas. One team

626
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: gets in the morning, the other team gets it in

627
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: the afternoon. The Raiders literally built the taj Mahal of

628
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: practice facilities and one of the teams had to practice

629
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: at UNOV. I remember saying this in the Super Bowl,

630
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: like I get for now, why don't they just why

631
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: did they set it up like this so ext in

632
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I don't know what two lanes facilities are,

633
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: but one of the teams is gonna get the Saints.

634
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: It's usually the NFC team, right, Why don't both teams

635
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: just split it so no one has any beef with

636
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: any of the college setup. Just one team gets it

637
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: from eight to eleven, the other team gets it from

638
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: one to four for four straight days Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

639
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: and Monday or whatever the day setup would be, because

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Speaker 1: usually tuesdays off, it's very easy to avoid. Don't make

641
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: a team. Yeah, this team's practicing at this uh you

642
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: know D one double A program. Yeah, they had to

643
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: go to this local high school. Like what are we doing?

644
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: How that doesn't make it? And I'm not making excuses

645
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: like maybe Achilles was gonna tear, but I remember thinking

646
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: it was stupid that one team had to practice at

647
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: this way shittier facility when you have all day like

648
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: they're not they're not holding their meetings there. They go

649
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: back to the hotel. It's very very easy. Eight to eleven,

650
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: one to four, that's your allotted time. Okay, let's go

651
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: a little middle coff mail bag middle Coff Mailbag firing

652
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: those dms at John Middlecoff dms wide open easy to

653
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: get on the show. I didn't do draft daily. I

654
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: just realized on the on the podcast, so I luckily

655
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: we end up talking a lot of draft here on

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00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: the mailbag. Do you think the Chiefs should draft a

657
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: receiver or draft Sneed's replacement. It's a tough one because

658
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: they have to pay Creed, Tray, Smith, Bolton, and McDuffie

659
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: over the next couple of years. I think they're gonna

660
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman. My guess is they take a tackle.

661
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: It's a really good tackle draft. A lot of tackles

662
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: are supposed to go between twenty and forty five. I

663
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: think they're primed to take an offensive lineman. So my

664
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: guess would be I can't see them taking a corner there.

665
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: I guess you never know. You try to stick with

666
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: the best player available philosophy. But when you're a team

667
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: like them, I think they try to circle their favorite

668
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: tackles they think are going to be there, and they

669
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: take the best one who's available. That would be my

670
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: educated guess. Listen to the pod during my lunch break.

671
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Vikings fan. And saw the comment where

672
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: Harbas said JJ is the best quarterback in the draft.

673
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Do you think there is any chance the Chargers trade

674
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Herbert to the Vikings in draft? McCarthy, I do not.

675
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: You know, that's Jim. We hired you to run the show,

676
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: to be our coach, paid you a lot of money.

677
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: We're letting you do whatever you want, but trading Herbert

678
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: is not an option. He also said he said that

679
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in the draft, but he also

680
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: said that justin Herbert was a huge driving force for

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: the reason that he took the job. So I can't

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00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: see that happening. No one in their right mind would

683
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: do that. But Jim's sometimes not in his right mind,

684
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: so maybe he broached the idea. Do you think there's

685
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: a chance by design that NFL teams are more roster

686
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: centric whereas the AFC is seemingly more quarterback centric. The

687
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: NFC has teams like the Eagles, Niners, Cowboys, and Lions

688
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: who have loaded rosters, and the AFC has elite quarterbacks

689
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: but rosters that aren't as good except for Baltimore. Do

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Speaker 1: the front officers think differently? I would say that most

691
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: of the star quarterbacks are in that side of the bracket. Right,

692
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes they gave him four and fifty million. Josh Allen,

693
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: they gave him two hundred million dollars, Lamar Jackson two

694
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, justin Herbert Joe Burrow. I mean, all

695
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: those guys got enormous contracts, so Jalen did, and they

696
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: were hoping Jalen became one of those guys. Let's face it,

697
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones thinks Dack's the top seven eight guy. I

698
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: think he's probably more like and twelve. But I think

699
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: they with all these NFL NFC teams would love to

700
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: have these quarterbacks, and the forty nine ers tried to

701
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: create one with Trey Lance. Turns out he couldn't play.

702
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: Then they found Brock Purty, so I you know, Jared

703
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Goff kind of saved the Lions. I think there's everyone's

704
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: on the same page. All thirty two gms agree like

705
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: we would want Mahomes, right, we would want we would

706
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: choose those guys over the roster, like it would you

707
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: start if I told you right now, would you rather

708
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: have Mahomes or Josh Allen or just some awesome roster

709
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: and then figure out the quarterback later you would take

710
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Speaker 1: you would take the quarterback. But I think this is

711
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: where all the variables come in. Eventually, everyone needs to

712
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Speaker 1: get paid. Like I saw headline today Jared Goff, they're

713
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: working on a contract extension. Well, what's that number? Is

714
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: that thirty five million dollars a year? Or is that

715
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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars a year? So I don't think is

716
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: philosophically any different. I just think sometimes those teams found

717
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: themselves in those spots. Seattle had sweet Russell Wilson five

718
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: six years ago, and they started sucking and they got

719
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: rid of them, and now they got Geno. I think

720
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: they got a decent roster, But it's just how do

721
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: you get one of those guys. John just wanted to

722
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: send this over. Listen to you talk about Marv. I

723
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Speaker 1: think he's talking about Harrison Junior not running the forty.

724
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Speaker 1: I know this isn't the forty, but he was one

725
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: of the five fastest players in college football, and he

726
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: clocked over twenty one miles an hour more than once.

727
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: He's definitely not a four or five guy. Here's what

728
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: he sent me, college football's fastest players most appearances at

729
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: twenty one miles an hour were over, Trey Benson running

730
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: back Florida State three times. I think he ran the

731
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Speaker 1: four threes, Dylan Edwards Colorado two times, Marvin Harrison Ohio

732
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: State two times, Troy Flanklin, Troy Flanklin two times. Xavier

733
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Speaker 1: Worthy fastest guy at Combine his street. I didn't say

734
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: he was slow, but maybe he is. Some guys play

735
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: faster with the ball in their hands than they do

736
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: running a forty. Maybe he's just not confident running forty.

737
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just simple. And I was texting with someone

738
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: that you know, knows these works in the league that

739
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: just said that Marvin kind of does whatever his dad's

740
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: selling him to do right now. So maybe it has

741
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: nothing to do with like he's scared a test. It's

742
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: like his dad's telling him not to do that, and

743
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: he's just doing what his pops is telling him. And

744
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: as me and Colin talk the other day, is Pops

745
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: is kind of a different bird. So I don't know.

746
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't think. I'm not trying to talk about Martin Harrison.

747
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a really excellent top ten level prospect,

748
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: but I also don't think he is When I think

749
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: top five wide receivers, you know, I think Calvin Johnson,

750
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and Julio jumps, and I wouldn't put him

751
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: in that class. And part of it, I just think

752
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: those guys are on a different level. You know, jamar

753
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: Cha coming out, I don't know if I even thought

754
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: he was gonna be as good as he became. Ironically,

755
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: the best receiver of them all is probably the guy

756
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: that was drafted twenty two and Justin Jefferson, so I

757
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. Martin Harris gonna be good. Do

758
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: you think Justin Herbert will win a Super Bowl in

759
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: his career? Well, I think it comes down to Harball.

760
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: And as someone who has rooted for Jim Harbass since Stanford,

761
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was ever gonna pull it off.

762
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: And when I was on my couch during that rose Ball,

763
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: I thought, this is the most classic hardball game ever.

764
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: He is about to lose to Sabin, who probably has

765
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: his worst team of all his playoff teams, and Jalen

766
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Milroe that's who he's gonna lose to. And that moment

767
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: changed his career forever. It was in the National Championship game,

768
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Washington could never beat Michigan. It turns out Michigan was

769
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: on a completely different level. Jim Harbaugh's career changed for

770
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: me in that Alabama game, and now I view him

771
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: as a champion, Like I'm not gonna lie. I thought

772
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: there was a chance, like, you know, maybe he's just

773
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: never gonna win the big game, And when he beat

774
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, I'm like, maybe it's different. So yeah, I mean,

775
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: I think Jim Harbaugh could easily win a Super Bowl

776
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: in the next five years. His team's not gonna be

777
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: good enough this year. Obviously they had a trade guys,

778
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: moving guys around. But I think in the next couple

779
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: of years, I think he's gonna have a chance. He's

780
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: proven to be that good of a coach and if

781
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: they draft and signed the right players. Look at Andy Reid,

782
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: they drafted and signed the right players. He's an elite

783
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: coach and he's winning super Bowls. Like I think Jim

784
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's fuck. I take Jim over John and John's damn good?

785
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Would you take Jim over John? I would, Actually,

786
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I would take I think most gms, not factoring in

787
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: like John's probably a little easier to work with. I

788
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: think I just think Jim's a better coach and John's

789
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean it were splitting hairs. I mean it's not

790
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: like ones number one and one's over ten. I mean,

791
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: these are these two pretty high level guys, even though

792
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: ironically you'd be like, well Jim got beat by John

793
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Yeah. True. With the new hip

794
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: drop tackle rule. In general offensive leaning policies the NFL

795
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: is implemented over the years, would it be crazy to

796
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: allow twelve players on defense? If defenses were allowed one

797
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: extra dB, you would be able to double team two

798
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: skill position players as opposed to one. I think this

799
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: would naturally close up the middle of the field and

800
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: force quarterbacks to think twice about it without reintroducing the

801
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: violence hits that would occur over the middle. Here's the problem.

802
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: The league and the television networks want offense. They want touchdowns.

803
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: They don't want Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or whoever

804
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: to be a relevant all game all the time. Because

805
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: if I had an extra dB, I would literally just

806
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: cover you with two corners like you would like you

807
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: do on punt team, or you just put two guys

808
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: over the gunner. It's hard, and that guy's just trying

809
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: to make a tackle. This guy's trying to run routes,

810
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: so the league would never allow that simply because they

811
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: want offense for the mailbox. If I'm a Cowboyer Dolphins fan,

812
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm out on Dak and Tua. Both of their contract

813
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: extensions can cripple the teams going forward. Both have a

814
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: deer in the headlights. Look on them in the playoffs,

815
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: and we've seen enough to know they don't have it

816
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: very productive against mediocre or bad teams. But honestly can't

817
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: say they are worth a bunch of wins as individuals.

818
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: Do you think their team should let them hit free

819
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: agency after next season? Dak is dramatically better than two,

820
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: I think, and you can tell me any stat you want.

821
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: If I had to play a season, I would take

822
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: DAK without hesitation over to a Tongua by Lowa. I

823
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: hate some times, you know one thing I am trying,

824
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: Not that I care that much, but I respect how

825
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: hard it is to play in the NFL. I am

826
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: much more comfortable talking shit about a GM or a coach,

827
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: assistant coach, a coordinator because that job is much much

828
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: easier to obtain than it is to become a starting

829
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Well two has accomplished at Alabama

830
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: top five pick even in the NFL. He's on a

831
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: small list of human beings. But once you get to

832
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: that position, we judge you based on the other human

833
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: beings that are doing that. So, like, I've never heard

834
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: one negative thing about Too, same thing with Dak. Like

835
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: these are super high character guys. It's easy to rip

836
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: a player when he's just a fucking turd. Not the

837
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: case with these guys. But ultimately, like we're playing to

838
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: compete for a super Bowl here and in December and January.

839
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: Dak's blown in the playoffs two of the last three years.

840
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: There's no disputing that. I mean, the defense was so atrocious,

841
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: but Dak was bad. I just don't think, like I

842
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: do believe like Dak could get hot for a couple

843
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: of games. I don't think two is capable, especially if

844
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: they weren't the number one seed and they ever have

845
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: to go on the road of winning a big playoff game.

846
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's possible. I think he's

847
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: much closer to being mediocre than he is to the

848
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: high end guys. I actually don't think it's even close

849
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: with him and Dak. If all things are neutral, All

850
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Speaker 1: the coaches are neutral. I think Dak is a far

851
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: superior player, and I just under no circumstances from a

852
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: business standpoint, could I give to a large extension? Would

853
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: I give him like two years forty million? Yeah? And

854
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: as Asian would be like, hang out the phone, Well fine,

855
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: let someone pay you, Dak. I think you're in a

856
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: tough position. I think you're in a tough position. I

857
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: probably you know it's easy to say let him walk.

858
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: I think realistically you just extend him, get it down

859
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: and just hope that he can get hot one year

860
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: like Eli or Flack. I don't think Tua has that

861
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: in the bank. I really don't. Again, good guy would

862
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: not want him as my quarterback at all. Honestly, I've

863
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: been impressed with just I thought I'm not. I was

864
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: not a fan of him coming out. Is Trevor Lawrence

865
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: the most overrated player in the NFL. I feel like

866
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: a lot of the sentiment around him still comes from

867
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: his play in high school and at Clemson. He had

868
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: plenty of talent, weak division and has still struggled. I

869
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: don't think to be overrated, people have to view you

870
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: as good, and I don't think if you just pull

871
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people, they view him as some high

872
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: end player. Now, I think most people are just viewing

873
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: him as like, something's off. I think if you just

874
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: pulled the average like scout or assistant coach in the NFL,

875
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: they would just be like, yeah, that's weird. Something's off there.

876
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: He does not look good, whether it's injuries, whether it's

877
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: average play. But I don't think most people would be like, oh,

878
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: high end player, future all pro. I don't think you

879
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: would find anyone saying that. I would say he's a guy.

880
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: That's pretty consensus. Fans, people in the league, probably some

881
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: players like yeah, I don't see it, and it might

882
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: turn out that he's just not good. I don't really

883
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: know what to think. I do know this is a

884
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: massive year. I would say make or break if he

885
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: has another season like he just had. I don't think

886
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: he's with the Jacks after this year. I think I

887
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: said this on the podcast yesterday. The NFL waits for

888
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: nobody anymore. That entire draft beside him is on other teams.

889
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson technically still on the Jets. Like, give me

890
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: a break. I don't care what Woody Johnson's like. If

891
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,479
Speaker 1: we can't find a trade, he'll be here. No, he won't,

892
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: would he? But Trey Lance Justin Fields mac Jones ironically

893
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence. I think if Trevor Lawrence does not

894
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: get them to the playoffs and does not play well,

895
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: he is gone. Is it possible that the NFL is

896
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: doing four teams so the production is less invasive? This

897
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: way they spread the coverage over four teams, so each

898
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: team deals with HBO crew a bit less full disclosure,

899
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: I've never watched Hard Knocks. Not my thing. Yeah, I guess,

900
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: but I would doubt that's how that the Hard Knocks.

901
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they would just put the normal

902
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: camera crews with each team. Would be my would be

903
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: my uneducated guest, Like I don't have the breakdown of

904
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: how many camera crews go to a normal Hard Knocks,

905
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine that, Like, Okay, we'll just send

906
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: instead of sending four crews, let's just pick a team

907
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: the AFC South. We usually have four crews go right

908
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: that last year with the Dolphins, and now we'll just

909
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: split up the four crews instead of having the four

910
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: cameras there and the production you know, the guy with

911
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: the mic. We will have one crew at each team.

912
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be like that. Maybe instead

913
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: of four each team, there'd be like three. But I'd

914
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: be stunned if if it was like that. Maybe I'm crazy.

915
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: Last week you discussed the inevitable downfall of the holiday

916
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: card tradition. Unlike the other ninety nine percent of your

917
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: takes on sports life, I have to disagree on this one.

918
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: I feel like the holiday cards provide the personal connection

919
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: amongst friends and family, often whom aren't seen in some time.

920
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with what the holiday card is stands for,

921
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: represents and means when you open it to family, college buddies,

922
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: high school friends, people, depending on how old you are,

923
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen in years. I'm in agreement there, And for

924
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: some people, hasn't it always been about collecting the cards

925
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: on your fridge for everyone to see during the holiday season,

926
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 1: just assuming most people would never even bother to print

927
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: them out. Also, I've heard you mentioned Derek Ray. I too,

928
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: have known Derek. Derek is the GM at Florida State.

929
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: Any chance you get him on as a guest? Yeah,

930
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: I got an idea about Florida State. My thing with

931
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: holiday cards wasn't that they were going to disappear. I

932
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: just think that the way of technology is every bill

933
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: when I was a kid came to the house, every

934
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: single one, and my dad wrote checks. Same thing with

935
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: the farm, like every bill came. Now everything is on

936
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: the computer. So you my mom has this, my brother

937
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: has this. We don't have one at this house, but

938
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you have that are those

939
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: like video kind of Amazon Alexa type things, Google Play whatever,

940
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: and they just rotate pictures. My mom has one that

941
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: my sister in law just updates with the kids. And

942
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: that's my idea where I think this is gonna head eventually.

943
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: It's stuff like that. I think that's inevitable. I really do.

944
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Resident Browns fan here after Seal seeing the Russell Wilson

945
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: deal go down, I have a lot of worries for

946
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: what we end up with Watson. When is the cutoff

947
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: to prove he's good player before Andrew Berry and Stefanski

948
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 1: decide to cut him and fully rebuild the position. Would

949
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: you be surprised if at all we took a developmental

950
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft down the board. I'm a huge

951
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis fan, and I'd love to see us continue

952
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: to take late round quarterbacks and see if we strike

953
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: gold on a long shot, like with Joe Milton or

954
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman. Yeah, I don't think that's a bad idea

955
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: at all. I just you could argue sometimes when you

956
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: have I mean, Deshaun Watson's the highest cap hit in

957
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: the league the next couple of years, so you're hitting

958
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: on players at other positions is extremely important, And unlike

959
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he has a lot more guaranteed money coming

960
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: to him because of the way the contract was set up.

961
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: I think he has two years to prove his worth,

962
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half. But I think it's very,

963
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: very difficult for you to get another quarterback. So I

964
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: think these next two years are kind of just in

965
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: the boat with this operation. Now, if this year got

966
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: really ugly and he played really shitty and you were

967
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: losing games, maybe it would only be a year. Now.

968
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: I can't pretend to know the financial ramifications, but clearly,

969
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: given the amount of money you gave him highest contract

970
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: in the history league too, undred thirty million dollars guaranteed,

971
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: it would be really really ugly on your salary cap. Now,

972
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: the good thing for Barry and Stefanski, I think it's

973
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: pretty clear that this was the owner, So it's one

974
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: of those. It's not like those guys were pounding the

975
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: table to do this. Deshaun Watson said he was out

976
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: to the Browns and they were like, seea and the

977
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: owners like, what do you need? And then we'll geta

978
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: his agent, you know bent Jimmy haslam over a barrel rightfully,

979
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: so he had all the leverage. And I just think

980
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: that it's one of those. Now, a lot of super

981
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: rich guys. I don't know that many billionaires don't know one,

982
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: but it's pretty clear they're not great at being like,

983
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: oh my bad, I fucked up. Usually his point the finger.

984
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: So would he point the finger at those guys as

985
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: a rumor today that they're going to get extensions? That

986
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: would be fascinating to watch that. If this Deshaun Watson

987
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: thing really goes up in flames, which feels more likely

988
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: than not, does the owner take responsibility and say I

989
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: led the charge on this, the contract was my idea,

990
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: or does he just say those guys screwed up fired

991
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: his history would say that it does feel like they've

992
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: stabilized a little bit. And I think Barry and Stefanski

993
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: clearly are pretty good, so that would be crazy to

994
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: do that. But rich guys are crazy sometimes and they

995
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: don't want to have an egg on their face. So

996
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: what if you win six games this year and Deshaun

997
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: just looks like an average player. They changed the entire

998
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: offensive staff. I don't know. I'm just not sure he's

999
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: any good, to be honest with you, the volume