Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camridge Edge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Hi.
Speaker 3: I'm Erika Jane.
Speaker 2: We are here. We've gotten a lot of questions which
Speaker 2: we're just going to touch on quickly because we hate
Speaker 2: to give the haters too much light. And you always
Speaker 2: you always told me like, how many fucks do I give?
Speaker 3: None? None?
Speaker 2: Zero, none? But I am one of those people that
Speaker 2: sometimes I give fox.
Speaker 3: Of course, you're human being.
Speaker 2: I'm a human being. So I commented back right after
Speaker 2: I was on OC last week, there was somebody. I mean,
Speaker 2: I granted, I got way more love than I ever
Speaker 2: got when I was on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: I thought, you did great job and you look beautiful,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: But there was somebody that commented, I hope you die,
Speaker 2: and they did it with a one instead of an eye.
Speaker 2: So I guess then you can get through.
Speaker 3: I'm not laughing at you. I just I've had this
Speaker 3: happen to me so many times, and it's just it's sad,
Speaker 3: you know, it hurts, and it's it's awful, and the
Speaker 3: one gets you through.
Speaker 2: Like and then you kind of think, would I ever
Speaker 2: go to somebody's place of business and ask that they die?
Speaker 2: And ask that they die? Like over a time, I mean,
Speaker 2: I recap I don't know eight different television shows. I've
Speaker 2: never wanted anybody to die.
Speaker 3: No, And I think that sometimes people forget that we're
Speaker 3: in the entertainment business and you know, saying things like that,
Speaker 3: like would you go to someone's place of business and
Speaker 3: just you know, I hope you die? Like it's like
Speaker 3: you just said, like that's not come on.
Speaker 2: But also I think part of entertaining television is having
Speaker 2: your favorites and having people that bug the crap out
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 3: But that's what makes it. That's what makes shows work,
Speaker 3: is that not everybody's getting along or you have differences
Speaker 3: of opinion. You see you connect with different women on
Speaker 3: different shows, but don't tell somebody to go die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, not everybody's everyone's cup of tea and you
Speaker 2: that's why you see relationships even within the shows shift
Speaker 2: because you may not you may not even be a
Speaker 2: person that you're filming with cup of tea, but everybody changes,
Speaker 2: and if we all stay the same, how miserable would
Speaker 2: life be if we were all exactly the same for
Speaker 2: our entire line.
Speaker 3: Well, that's not really growing or living. Nobody stays the same, yeah,
Speaker 3: whether they're progressing forward or backward. Everybody's always in movement.
Speaker 2: And then I think as if you're in a person
Speaker 2: in social media and I know that you've gotten your
Speaker 2: fair share of heat as well, if you comment on it,
Speaker 2: then it's like you care. If you don't comment on it,
Speaker 2: then it's like you're a pushover, like where.
Speaker 3: Well you can't win, there's just no winning, but you
Speaker 3: are you asking like what where is the line?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Whether death is the line?
Speaker 2: Death is the line?
Speaker 3: Death is the line?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I remember like I should put a three fifty seven
Speaker 3: to your head and blow your head off, And I
Speaker 3: was like, that's not really very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's that might that might be where you're kind.
Speaker 3: Of like, really, that doesn't mean that much to you.
Speaker 3: This TV show that you need to comment like that,
Speaker 3: like you're getting the attention you want, but at what cost?
Speaker 3: And don't threaten people's lives.
Speaker 2: And also like TV, this is a like whatever your
Speaker 2: profile picture is is probably like your six cats or
Speaker 2: your one dog or nothing or nothing, And I just
Speaker 2: want you to imagine if I were to actually take
Speaker 2: the time to go on your profile and attack.
Speaker 3: You personally, how you'd feel. It'd be terrible. And I
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people really take that into consideration. Well,
Speaker 3: you signed up for it, not really didn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: sign up for that. I didn't. I also, in my marriage,
Speaker 3: didn't sign up for what ended up happening. But that's
Speaker 3: my choice. But certainly, you know this is a this
Speaker 3: is a show, this is entertainment. You can't take it
Speaker 3: that far.
Speaker 2: No, And I think, yes, did I sign up to
Speaker 2: go to Ralphs and maybe have a woman stop me
Speaker 2: while I'm like picking out my kid cereal and have
Speaker 2: her be like, oh my gosh, tell me about eric
Speaker 2: A Jake?
Speaker 3: Of course I did sign up for that, but not
Speaker 3: to die.
Speaker 2: But not to die. I think that's the difference. If
Speaker 2: you want to stop and chat and do whatever, that's
Speaker 2: on me. If I look like hell and I have
Speaker 2: to take a ban on, that's on me too. But
Speaker 2: I never in the history, even if we get when too,
Speaker 2: politics or whatever, the most dramatic of circumstances are I've
Speaker 2: never in my life been like, I really hope this
Speaker 2: person dies. I think that's something to think about when
Speaker 2: you're watching this shows.
Speaker 3: This should be for entertainment, well, yes, and it should
Speaker 3: be fun and it should be silly, and you should
Speaker 3: get mad and you should get sad. But there are limits.
Speaker 3: There are limits in life, and one of them, too far,
Speaker 3: is like wishing people to die.
Speaker 2: And like, you know what, be like a regular person
Speaker 2: and text your friends, Like for me, when I watch
Speaker 2: like I'm watching the Chimp shit the Chip Show. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, it's it's insane. But like, as you know,
Speaker 2: we're on a group chat. I texted Renna and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Renna, You're gonna die when you see
Speaker 2: the Chimp show. Blah blah blah blah blah. I'm not
Speaker 2: finding the chimp lady on Instagram message upset that she
Speaker 2: breastfed the chimp?
Speaker 3: What did she really.
Speaker 2: But like see that regular person and gossip on a
Speaker 2: group chat, like I'm sorry, I'm really gagging. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 2: she breastfed and she also got lip filler at the
Speaker 2: nail place.
Speaker 3: I don't know which is worse.
Speaker 2: I don't actually know what's worse. I saw and I
Speaker 2: was I was actually watching with Edwin I'm like, is
Speaker 2: that numbing cream? Why she's at the nail salon? And
Speaker 2: I was like, please tell me she and then he
Speaker 2: laid her back and started injecting. I was like, actually,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what's worse, breastfeeding a chimpanzee
Speaker 2: or like getting a foot scrub and then your lips injected. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: my point is I still don't know what the lady's
Speaker 2: name is, or am I going to find her? Or
Speaker 2: am I gonna tell her?
Speaker 3: I No, we're not going to tell her anything like that.
Speaker 3: So just remember we're in entertainment where I know it's
Speaker 3: it's personal, yes, but sometimes there are limits and death
Speaker 3: is too far.
Speaker 2: So death is too far. We have gotten some additional updates.
Speaker 2: It was Tamor's birthday this week. Happy Birthday, Happy birthday,
Speaker 2: tam We love you. She got for her birthday, she
Speaker 2: got a brow lift and a CO two laser, which
Speaker 2: I have to ask you about. I know not everybody's
Speaker 2: comfortable talking about what they've.
Speaker 3: Gotten Morpheus, but not Coo.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. I've done Morpheus.
Speaker 2: I got Morpheus when I got my neck lift.
Speaker 3: Did it work for you?
Speaker 2: It did?
Speaker 3: I like it. It worked for me too, but I was.
Speaker 2: I was under when I got it, so they could
Speaker 2: go deeper.
Speaker 3: Oh I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Oh see the second time I got Morpheus, I wasn't
Speaker 2: under it, and I was like a wimp.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it hurts though.
Speaker 2: And I barely had any swelling or anything. And She's like,
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't actually do it. So I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly what the co two layers.
Speaker 3: Is, but well, I think it's like it's a controlled burn.
Speaker 3: But I know that it gives great results. So I'm
Speaker 3: excited to see her results.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I do love that. I don't
Speaker 2: think everybody shares, but I do love that she is sharing.
Speaker 3: Because she wants to. That's cool. And if you don't
Speaker 3: want to, that's fine too. I mean that you're not owed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh anybody, but if I want to share, cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you see her the text from her mom? No,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I died, she said. And then I
Speaker 2: think she said, your face makes me want to throw up.
Speaker 3: That is not right, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: But then Tams like you guys all want to know
Speaker 2: where I got my empathy? This is what like? And
Speaker 2: I think this really shows it not empathy, but your
Speaker 2: family dynamic like my dad is very similar. Like my
Speaker 2: family's like always making fun like we If he doesn't
Speaker 2: make fun of you, it means he doesn't like you.
Speaker 3: Right, he didn't notice you, you didn't take the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like so it's so it did make me laugh,
Speaker 2: but Tam hopefully you heal well. The eye part, the
Speaker 2: upper lift doesn't even seem like a problem. The laser
Speaker 2: is what seems no.
Speaker 3: I was told and I've never had this done. I've
Speaker 3: never had any of this done, but I guess the
Speaker 3: upper lift, the bleff.
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called. It's bleff this part of your.
Speaker 3: Eye, the lid from hooting of the lids, so you
Speaker 3: take it up and opened your eye. I've never had
Speaker 3: that done, but apparently people really like it and it's
Speaker 3: not that bad. The CO two laser, you know, is
Speaker 3: swelling and the brow I think they cut your brow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean all all recovery is it's.
Speaker 3: Very well.
Speaker 2: Also, what's rough is Katie Janella accused of calling police
Speaker 2: to report fake crime, causing wrongful arrest. This is in
Speaker 2: Touch weekly. I feel like she can't catch a break
Speaker 2: on the world of news. But yet on the show,
Speaker 2: we're really starting to enjoy her.
Speaker 3: That's always how it is though shows great life stuck, yeah,
Speaker 3: and the audience stations the other way. But it's not.
Speaker 3: It's like your show is great and your life is
Speaker 3: like fucked up, but nobody knows. Yeah, because so far.
Speaker 2: She continuously shows me on the show like she's the
Speaker 2: voice of reason, which led me to my next question
Speaker 2: on Beverly Hills. Who did you think was the voice
Speaker 2: of reason?
Speaker 3: I thought Eileen Davidson was the voice of reason, and
Speaker 3: then after that, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think who I I don't know
Speaker 2: that I had a voice of reason.
Speaker 3: I think you, Yeah, you had maniacs. I don't know maniacs.
Speaker 2: That I ever. I mean I had people, I think
Speaker 2: no matter what, no matter what we saw, Renna was
Speaker 2: kind of always that person that.
Speaker 3: Well, Renna's the person that's going to boil it down
Speaker 3: to you, whether you like it or not. She's going
Speaker 3: to tell you she adds levity to anything, right, But
Speaker 3: she's also going to tell you this is going to
Speaker 3: happen to you. Yeah, and if you don't take care
Speaker 3: of it, and she's not wrong, she does not and
Speaker 3: She's not.
Speaker 2: One that at the end of the day, if you've
Speaker 2: had a bad day, she's gonna if it's shit, she's
Speaker 2: gonna be like that was gonna be this is gonna
Speaker 2: be shit for you.
Speaker 3: And but there's but she always lightens it up, like
Speaker 3: you said, but you can overcome it. Let me tell
Speaker 3: you how.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, So I don't know when I was
Speaker 2: on that there was necessarily a voice of reason, But
Speaker 2: I have heard that Eileen. But I only filmed with
Speaker 2: Eileen one time. Do you think she'll ever come back.
Speaker 3: On the show?
Speaker 2: I think you should no, because there were rumors this
Speaker 2: past season that she was going to come.
Speaker 3: Kind of feel like that's every season they say this
Speaker 3: one's coming back. She's you know, everybody's coming back. I
Speaker 3: don't know about that.
Speaker 2: What we see may not always be what we get.
Speaker 2: Katie Janella was accused of calling police with fake allegations
Speaker 2: that led to a man being arrested for false imprisonment.
Speaker 2: A man named Sidney Silva filed a lawsuit against Katie
Speaker 2: in March twenty sixteen. Sydney said he had an incident
Speaker 2: with Katie on the roadway in April twenty fifteen, It's
Speaker 2: noted that Sydney was driving home when he noticed Katie
Speaker 2: was texting while driving with several children in her car.
Speaker 2: He said a driver who was texting killed his brother
Speaker 2: eight years ago. He claimed, he shook his head in
Speaker 2: disapproval as he passed Katie, which led to her following him.
Speaker 3: Do not follow people, do Why would you ever follow?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even drive, but like, I'm certainly
Speaker 2: not chasing after.
Speaker 3: Not chased after anyone ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because can you explain this to me? The suit said.
Speaker 2: Katie parked behind Silva, got out of the car, leaving
Speaker 2: her children inside, and screamed at him. The man said
Speaker 2: he pulled his cellphone out to tape Katie, which is
Speaker 2: that illegal? No, you can tell because you can't tape
Speaker 2: a phone.
Speaker 3: Call, right, No, you cannot, but you but that's that's
Speaker 3: in law. But you can video anything. Look at all
Speaker 3: this shit.
Speaker 2: Going around, okay, so you can video anybody, So anybody
Speaker 2: in an effort to protect himself, which led to calling
Speaker 2: nine one one falsely to report a crime. When the
Speaker 2: police arrived minutes later, Katie communicated to them that Sydney
Speaker 2: had blocked her path and prevented her from getting inside
Speaker 2: her vehicle and leaving. But if she had already followed
Speaker 2: him gotten out, this feels suspect. The police initially arrested
Speaker 2: Sidney for false imprisonment, disorderly contact, and reckless driving. Upon
Speaker 2: further investigation, the police determined that Katie was the primary
Speaker 2: aggressor and that her allegations against Sydney were false. In
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Sydney and the officer agree to dismiss the case.
Speaker 3: If this is true, and they agreed to dismiss the case, Katie,
Speaker 3: you were a one lucky lady, because because that's fucked up,
Speaker 3: if this is true, if what I'm reading is true,
Speaker 3: and that you know, you chase after someone and then
Speaker 3: said that he was the aggressor but he wasn't. But
Speaker 3: also I want to point out something that's rough.
Speaker 2: You know, how many seasons were you on Beverly Hills?
Speaker 3: Are you bishop? What are you telling about?
Speaker 2: I just fired you? Sorry, Actually you're done.
Speaker 3: They hired me back at your ring. I tell you
Speaker 3: something here, good for you?
Speaker 2: No, how many seasons?
Speaker 3: Nine? I've done nine seasons.
Speaker 2: At what point did they start releasing any sort of
Speaker 2: news reports things.
Speaker 3: Like that Season one? I think so it was season Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course I think that anytime, especially now, so especially
Speaker 3: now when there's tons of like bloggers and you know,
Speaker 3: everyone else, if you've done something like this, it will surface,
Speaker 3: but faster. So while it may have taken months or
Speaker 3: maybe happened after you were filming, now it's going to
Speaker 3: happen very quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So we don't really know how we feel
Speaker 2: about Katie, but so far we're seeing a lot of
Speaker 2: her coming out about Heather, but really more is coming
Speaker 2: out about her than Heather. Ever. Needing paparazzi at.
Speaker 3: Disney, Heather doesn't need paparazzi anywhere. It's okay.
Speaker 2: Heather's confessionals from on Point this week.
Speaker 3: She was very good.
Speaker 2: She made me laugh.
Speaker 3: She's good.
Speaker 2: Season eighteen, episode nine, Heather and Terry go back and
Speaker 2: forth from La to OC.
Speaker 3: They have which is a pain. By the way, I
Speaker 3: know to every anyone that's listening or watching that does
Speaker 3: not live in southern California, but it really it's a
Speaker 3: it's a trip.
Speaker 2: But also we have to be very clear, this is
Speaker 2: for the show. Whenever he lives in both places. All
Speaker 2: I know someone who does, I mean I did until
Speaker 2: Bella started going right, So.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You just no, But I but that was before my
Speaker 2: kids were actually in school. It's one thing to switch
Speaker 2: back and forth between OC and Beverly Hills or OC
Speaker 2: and Encino or whatever it is. But once you have
Speaker 2: kids in school, it's almost important. It's not like it's
Speaker 2: like a fifteen minute drive.
Speaker 3: No, it's at what two hours?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in traffic two and a half. Yes, but
Speaker 2: if you have the opportunities to be at the Bowbo
Speaker 2: Bay Club and.
Speaker 3: Do all of that, well, don't they have a house there?
Speaker 2: They know, they sold their house there. Good for them,
Speaker 2: and now they're in a Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I'm serious as fuck, like I want everybody to
Speaker 3: get rich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love. And then they talk essentially why they're
Speaker 2: in LA as Terry and Heather's youngest, Ace is in
Speaker 2: middle school.
Speaker 3: And middle school is better in Los Angeles than it
Speaker 3: is down in OC, much more accepting. Yeah, and which
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: I understand. I love how open and supportive Heather and
Speaker 2: Terry are with their kids. I do too, But can
Speaker 2: you please explain to me why he was dressed as
Speaker 2: Neo from the Matrix while playing.
Speaker 3: Pool, because maybe that's what doctor Debro likes. I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe that's his fashion choice. I actually liked the matrix,
Speaker 3: so I'm okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I also want to know. If I asked you
Speaker 2: right now, can you hang a picture on my wall?
Speaker 2: Could you do it?
Speaker 3: No? Fuck? And let me tell you, no man that
Speaker 3: I've ever been married to could either me.
Speaker 2: Neither.
Speaker 3: Yes, So we don't need to be I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: not watched that. And I was like, listen, Tom used
Speaker 3: to ask me to do shit and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not getting up and you know, cleaning the gutters. Dude, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't do that.
Speaker 2: No, Like you drove into my house today, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you could see all the trees on like the front
Speaker 2: of the thing. I said to Edone, I'm like, are
Speaker 2: you gonna have somebody like blow that stuff off anytime sooner?
Speaker 2: Or we're just gonna wait until the whole thing's covered.
Speaker 2: He's like, what am I going?
Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Jump off the balcony and wipe it off.
Speaker 3: And sen I was not married to a man that
Speaker 3: could have done anything like that.
Speaker 2: So now if you were to get remarried, which I
Speaker 2: know you're not interested, in doing currently, what would you
Speaker 2: want to be with somebody that was handy.
Speaker 3: I would prefer to be with someone that was more
Speaker 3: handy than my last husband, which isn't saying much.
Speaker 2: I would prefer to be married to somebody that could give,
Speaker 2: like a massage.
Speaker 3: I would prefer to be married to somebody that can
Speaker 3: build a castle, okay, or afford a castle. That's my point. Yes,
Speaker 3: a castle, you know what I mean? Like, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm getting at stability.
Speaker 2: So the ladies pack for Sonoma, where Heather is doing
Speaker 2: an event with family equality. Do you pack your clothes
Speaker 2: in white tissue? No?
Speaker 3: I do it in plastic. But I do appreciate her technique.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why I knew some kind of
Speaker 2: shit like those.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why no wrinkles tissue paper and I
Speaker 3: wonder if hers is acid free? Just and the reason
Speaker 3: I'm asking is because it matters on your clothing. Ask around.
Speaker 3: So I take plastic so that it's just the garments
Speaker 3: lay better and they don't get asrinky. Okay, yeah, tissue, no,
Speaker 3: but I do appreciate. Look, I'm with Heather. You know
Speaker 3: how it is when you get something from a really
Speaker 3: beautiful store. It's boxed, packed beautifully. You open it up
Speaker 3: the tissue paper like, I get it. It's cool.
Speaker 2: I do get it. But it doesn't that take up
Speaker 2: a lot of space.
Speaker 3: One would think that's why I plastic great.
Speaker 2: But then Jin flies alone to Sonoma because she is
Speaker 2: court for temporary child support and alimony.
Speaker 3: She just sounds awful, just court period. The sad thing
Speaker 3: is that I'm sure she's spent a lot more in
Speaker 3: legal fees to get just five.
Speaker 2: Grand, or Ryan spending it. Well, yeah, but all the
Speaker 2: ladies except for Gen go on Heather's private plane to Sonuma.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We do need to clear this up when
Speaker 2: we call something somebody's private.
Speaker 3: Place that they chartered it they chartered?
Speaker 2: Was it yours?
Speaker 3: It was Tom's? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, so but nine times out of ten, like listen,
Speaker 2: I can go to Jet.
Speaker 3: Sweet X, which I've seen you at, I've seen you at,
Speaker 3: I actually saw.
Speaker 2: And every single time I go, it's like it's out
Speaker 2: to get me. It's the Vanderpump Dogs or Vanderpump Rules
Speaker 2: or whatever plane. Yes, remember the one that she wrapped.
Speaker 2: It's the one to take me fucking place with.
Speaker 3: That is God saying something to.
Speaker 4: You, Yeah, it's like you'll never get a woman and
Speaker 4: I see her face on the back.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and that is oh my god.
Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten these planes are.
Speaker 3: One else's yeah, nine times out of ten someone's you know,
Speaker 3: they're not personal planes.
Speaker 2: But either way, it's still freaking expensive. Beyond expensive. It's
Speaker 2: like fifty thousand for an hour.
Speaker 3: The thing on which aircraft you get or what deal
Speaker 3: you strike, it's really the fuel cost more than anything, right,
Speaker 3: So even a short trip to Sonoma is expensive.
Speaker 2: But that's also why you can never.
Speaker 3: Be late to a private jet because it takes off
Speaker 3: when you wanted to. Well, if you're the if you're
Speaker 3: held on, if it's your plane, yes you can fucking
Speaker 3: be whatever time you want. But if you're the guest,
Speaker 3: you're never ever late, and you always wait until the
Speaker 3: owner tells you where to sit, because that may be
Speaker 3: their chair over there, and you'd be like, eh, but
Speaker 3: that's where they like to sit, where they do that.
Speaker 2: But how did you feel about her placing everybody in
Speaker 2: their chairs?
Speaker 3: I kind of liked it. I didn't bother me too much.
Speaker 2: Did you like, would you be happy if you were
Speaker 2: sit on the side chairs?
Speaker 3: I've had that well, yeah, some configurations are like that,
Speaker 3: so it's not it's not Heather's responsibility that the plane
Speaker 3: came configured like that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you sit like that, Yeah, but would you be
Speaker 2: happy with it?
Speaker 3: I've done it. It didn't bother me. I fell asleep.
Speaker 2: I feel like it does. I mean, Gina's saying she's
Speaker 2: getting punished hold on, not just on the plane, but
Speaker 2: being put in the car with Alexis after.
Speaker 3: Well that, yeah, you and I both know that that happens.
Speaker 3: You get put in cars with people and it's uncomfortable
Speaker 3: and you're like, I remember when Durita and I it
Speaker 3: was our first year and we had just fought it
Speaker 3: out at the It was a thunderstorm before you came
Speaker 3: on into in Hong Kong below the Buddha and we'd
Speaker 3: all gotten stopping wet and we had to sit in
Speaker 3: the minivan together and we're just like, and I'll never
Speaker 3: forget we were handing each other so that she's it
Speaker 3: was just one of those wow, you know, like I
Speaker 3: don't know what she handed me up, like a towel
Speaker 3: or something like, you know, just like I fucking hate you.
Speaker 3: But that's that's the show you're making.
Speaker 2: That's that's what ends up happening. And and that being said,
Speaker 2: I would rather take somebody's jet and fly on the
Speaker 2: side than have to take the eighty two thousand planes
Speaker 2: you'd probably have to get all the time, all the time.
Speaker 3: The time.
Speaker 2: Alexis wants to say to Shannon that she wants to
Speaker 2: put everything aside and doesn't want to make things worse.
Speaker 2: Gina tells her she can't release the ring videos. Alexis
Speaker 2: then says she wants Shannon to understand how bad Shannon
Speaker 2: has hurt people. But here's the thing. You don't want
Speaker 2: Shannon to understand how bad she's hurt people. You want
Speaker 2: to give her a public lashing for whatever John is
Speaker 2: telling you. And it's to me, it's giving unhinged.
Speaker 3: Well, to me, it's giving. It's not your fight. Like
Speaker 3: the ring camera videos, whether they are going to destroy
Speaker 3: Shannon or not, are simply between On and Shannon, and
Speaker 3: they have to fight that out. Alexis chiming in doesn't
Speaker 3: really help the situation actually hurts. Does that make sense? Like,
Speaker 3: let let if the ring videos are going to come out,
Speaker 3: fucking let him come out, man, But you don't need
Speaker 3: to comment on that. If you want to. It's not
Speaker 3: Alexis's place to say. You have heard everybody. Everybody knows.
Speaker 2: But also if everybody knows that good of a place
Speaker 2: with the guy, yeah it should matter.
Speaker 3: Let him fight his own fight. I'm trying That's like,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm trying to say. Let John fight his
Speaker 3: own fight. Alexis, he can do it.
Speaker 2: And I do realize that, like Alexis does have her
Speaker 2: deeming qualities when I'm with her in person, but watching this,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, please stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's enough.
Speaker 2: It's enough. Shannon says, in her wildest dream, did she
Speaker 2: ever think John would be doing interviews on the Red Carpet?
Speaker 2: He would tell Shannon that she ruined his life by
Speaker 2: making his life public, but now he's on Red carpet.
Speaker 3: But we see this a lot, Yeah, we see this
Speaker 3: a lot. In our little group. You hated it, you
Speaker 3: didn't want any part of it, and now all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, you're basking in it. So this is not
Speaker 3: just John. We've seen this a lot.
Speaker 2: But I also think there's a difference between being with
Speaker 2: somebody prior to them joining the show and thinking that
Speaker 2: you don't like it and coming into it versus choosing
Speaker 2: a person well that's already on a show, and then
Speaker 2: choosing another person.
Speaker 3: So clearly he likes it. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 3: that we see people I don't ever want to have
Speaker 3: anything to do with it, but really they do, is
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And and also I do understand the what Shannon's saying
Speaker 2: when she's like, John really wants to be liked. He
Speaker 2: wants to see well a good.
Speaker 3: Guy, right, but he We all want that best version
Speaker 3: of ourselves told out there. I know that, Like nobody
Speaker 3: wants the truth to be told because we're all flawed.
Speaker 3: We're all human beings. There's good and there's bad, So
Speaker 3: of course everybody wants to be liked. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that's like, I get it, but you know that's not
Speaker 3: always the case. There's people are flawed.
Speaker 2: Well, Shannon says she countered John regarding the seventy five
Speaker 2: thousand and offered him half the money.
Speaker 3: What's half a seventy five tips?
Speaker 2: Do you think I freaking know? Is that forty I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Clearly as we as we know geniuses over here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, okay, if somebody offer, like so let's
Speaker 5: say tomorrow, you and I start dating, I decide that
Speaker 5: I'm like, listen, I'm going to give you this.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, or I put you down to the
Speaker 2: point that you think that you need something, Like I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna say you're tits, even though clearly they're hot.
Speaker 2: But let's say I'm like Erica, we're dating, I think
Speaker 2: your tits are lackluster.
Speaker 3: I okay, yes, And you're gonna buy me new boobs? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, And I'm like, in order for me to really
Speaker 2: get off, really, I want to give you new tips, okay,
Speaker 2: and then I want to charge you later for them.
Speaker 3: You can't do that. You have to give without A
Speaker 3: gift is a gift, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: a gift is a gift. If you give it, you
Speaker 3: can't ask for it back.
Speaker 2: So that's really that's the part that's really bothering me.
Speaker 2: But then she's still stuck on how much money she's
Speaker 2: given prior to Bes.
Speaker 3: But Emily raises a good point when she says, sometimes
Speaker 3: you just have to pay people to get them out
Speaker 3: of your life, and like it will be over and done.
Speaker 2: I mean, Shannon did buy the three hundred dollars paragamas.
Speaker 3: Well, clearly they're cool because he's still wearing them.
Speaker 2: What would do you want your boyfriend to wear the pheragamals.
Speaker 3: Do you think that Alexis knew that those were Shannon
Speaker 3: bought Pharagamas? No? Do you have Do you think that
Speaker 3: Alexis is upset now that she knows that Shannon Boughs
Speaker 3: for sure?
Speaker 2: Because upset as she is that she got a David
Speaker 2: Yeerman promis ring, I'd be furious, I mean, would you No?
Speaker 3: I would want a cartoon annyone that's listening.
Speaker 2: No, Jess. So you guys know nobody wants David Euromin anymore.
Speaker 2: It may be coming back, but I don't want it.
Speaker 3: It's not my style. I want Cartier. I want Cartier.
Speaker 2: But so Emily makes a good point, She's like, just
Speaker 2: pay off the whole.
Speaker 3: Thing, get him into a confidentiality, do something, wrap it
Speaker 3: up airtight with his lawyer, pay him and get him
Speaker 3: out of your life. Sometimes you have to do that,
Speaker 3: Like when Emily said that, I think it was kind
Speaker 3: of brushed over, but it really is true. If in fact,
Speaker 3: you want to get rid of this and you want
Speaker 3: it all to go away, and there's nothing to fight
Speaker 3: for here, right the fucking check and be free. Now,
Speaker 3: you're not going to be free of Alexis and John
Speaker 3: if you don't.
Speaker 2: Have the money. Do we think there's a chance I
Speaker 2: don't know about that she doesn't have the money.
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't look to speculate about somebody's finances. Who
Speaker 3: fucking knows.
Speaker 2: But I do think the seventy five thousand might be
Speaker 2: difficult for her at this point of time, with your
Speaker 2: only point of income and you're no longer married to David.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, funds could be tight. H Well, I
Speaker 3: know mine are, Okay, so speculate, I would say.
Speaker 4: We'd be here slanging right, Yes, Shannon's lawyers here, Yeah,
Speaker 4: somehow we show up. But anyways, Then Heather does a
Speaker 4: champagne collaboration with Family Equality called GEMS, and some of
Speaker 4: the ladies go to taste the sparkling wine. Jen shows
Speaker 4: up and tells them that they settled on temporary support
Speaker 4: of six thousand a month for her five kids.
Speaker 2: Heather is six thousand a month on white tissue paper.
Speaker 2: I think that's what she probably spends at least. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's think about a kid.
Speaker 3: Kids a lot. Look, six for five kids is not
Speaker 3: a lot. And I know in some places it is.
Speaker 3: But when you're talking about the cost of living, like
Speaker 3: where they live in Orange County and shit like that,
Speaker 3: especially in LA where we are, this is nothing.
Speaker 2: Like my mom was married. I can put it into
Speaker 2: you in these terms like back in the eighties. Yes,
Speaker 2: my mom was married to a rock star, a real rocks,
Speaker 2: a real rock star, and she got a lump sum
Speaker 2: when she got a divorce, and then per kid until
Speaker 2: we were eighteen, she was given twenty five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: per child, which is, yes, which is considered nothing nothing,
Speaker 2: but it's still a shit ton more than Jenn's getting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for right now, it's temporary. Still, let's see, but
Speaker 3: this is not enough money for her and those children.
Speaker 2: No, and if you've made the effort to adopt additional children, yes,
Speaker 2: it just feels like.
Speaker 3: This is a strugg you know, this is hard for her. Again,
Speaker 3: Let's keep in mind this is where they're you know,
Speaker 3: there are gonna be people in the comments. They're gonna
Speaker 3: be like, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: No, in Orange County it's really not. And we have
Speaker 2: to be clear. To go to a private school in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, it's thirty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's gone up since my kid was
Speaker 3: in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty nine thousand dollars for third grade. So they
Speaker 2: better be a fucking genius. Yeah, like Einstein. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's really crazy. Then we see Shannon lawyer Dave. He
Speaker 2: calls her. I'm wondering if this is the same day
Speaker 2: that was their criminal guy. They all look the guy
Speaker 2: looks the same no matter what he's doing. And is
Speaker 2: this the same guy that was there for the.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking. Does he represent her all the
Speaker 3: way around or does she have another civil guy for this?
Speaker 2: This I don't know, but she says she won't go
Speaker 2: up another penny. This is where Emily tells her to
Speaker 2: avoid the boys.
Speaker 3: Check write the check. I agree with Emily.
Speaker 2: I think that Emily can just be direct, but she's
Speaker 2: like Emily also knows about the video at this point,
Speaker 2: and Shannon does not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but let us say, so what to me? They
Speaker 3: are two separate things. We have two separate fights here.
Speaker 3: What are you saying? So this is where it gets
Speaker 3: into this. Are you saying, if I don't give you
Speaker 3: the seventy five grand, you're going to release these videos?
Speaker 3: I think so okay, but you can't do that. Even
Speaker 3: Emily says that sounds like extortion. You cannot do that.
Speaker 3: I mean you can, but you can get you know,
Speaker 3: that's you don't do that. But I'll also to ask
Speaker 3: you this, what's on those ring videos that's going to
Speaker 3: make that big of a difference. Hasn't she already ran
Speaker 3: into the house and got a dui and blowing and
Speaker 3: you know, like, what more is there?
Speaker 2: Well, according to what they said to Katie and Gina
Speaker 2: was that she almost ran over John's daughter allegedly.
Speaker 3: That's bad.
Speaker 2: That also.
Speaker 3: Just when I was getting somewhere. This is why and
Speaker 3: drunk is so bad is because you could, if in fact,
Speaker 3: you could, you know, put people in harm. That's like
Speaker 3: the house. If you hit somebody, you know, hit the house,
Speaker 3: don't hit the person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's clear this is a
Speaker 2: toxic relationship. But we will we will get back to
Speaker 2: that after we get through the perfumes and Emily saying
Speaker 2: the taco smile. I was like, Emily, shut it. I
Speaker 2: don't like yeah, no, no, it wasn't funny to me.
Speaker 2: Then Heather said she invited Katie's to Sonoma because she
Speaker 2: didn't want to exclude her. Tarmra says, the more she
Speaker 2: gets to know Katie, the more she thinks Gina is
Speaker 2: behind bringing the paparazzi love Tamra or low Tamera. I
Speaker 2: do appreciate her ability to get things moving and camera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that's why she's on the show. She's very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like she's gonna get it.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. You can criticize her, you
Speaker 3: can say all that Tama makes that show work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So that's why she's there, and that's why you like her,
Speaker 3: and that's why you like to dislike her. Motherfucker moves
Speaker 3: the show around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and whether she's on five minutes or fifty minutes,
Speaker 2: she's moving.
Speaker 3: She's impactful.
Speaker 2: Then Tamra asked Alexis she's not afraid to be disliked. No,
Speaker 2: thank goodness, because I hate that. Then Tamar asked Alexis
Speaker 2: if Shannon paid John. Alexis told John to settle since
Speaker 2: he was getting something and John said no. She says
Speaker 2: John is not stopping and will File also bugs me
Speaker 2: that she calls him Johnny. It really does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his name is John, Like, well it was.
Speaker 2: I have bugs, Gina.
Speaker 3: I know why you think that because you think that
Speaker 3: that's what she calls them in their heads.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Johnny, Oh, Johnny.
Speaker 3: That's as bad as that chimp breastfeeding. Yeah, really, maybe.
Speaker 2: It's so gross. Then Gina says Alectra said stay out
Speaker 2: of the drama and makes a comment about the videos.
Speaker 2: Shannon asked, what the video.
Speaker 3: Okay, Gina, you did your job, honey.
Speaker 2: But then she let Katie carry it out.
Speaker 3: They both did their fucking jobs. I literally was sitting
Speaker 3: there like this.
Speaker 2: Like, oh wow, but they tried the week before, yeah,
Speaker 2: the traders, but yeah, you fucked it up. No, No,
Speaker 2: I mean I could ruin a wet dream, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe, but no, I was sitting there and
Speaker 2: I saw Gina bring it up and then all the
Speaker 2: women were like stop stop, top top top. So she
Speaker 2: had already been trying to put it out there, which
Speaker 2: is great. She did her job.
Speaker 3: Well, it's going to come out. Listen, everybody knows, the
Speaker 3: audience knows. It's only a matter of time before Shannon knows.
Speaker 3: No matter which way it gets out, you can agree.
Speaker 2: With that, it's always going to get out. But I
Speaker 2: do want to know something like Shannon doesn't seem well.
Speaker 3: This entire episode, she seems really distraught and so maybe, yeah,
Speaker 3: but there's no good time for this. You shouldn't be
Speaker 3: on a reality TV show. That's not the way it works.
Speaker 3: We all been on the show during terrible times in
Speaker 3: our lives. It's hard to watch her, but there's no
Speaker 3: good time to bring us up.
Speaker 2: But don't you think the rest of the season, Shannon's
Speaker 2: actually seemed pretty good, like to me compared like for
Speaker 2: what she's going through, I'm like, you know what, she
Speaker 2: looks like she's handling things this week. She seems kind
Speaker 2: of frail, very broken, broken, shaky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just a lot of tears, like lots and
Speaker 3: lots of tears, Like she cries. But it feels like
Speaker 3: there's a lot on her.
Speaker 2: But it also feels like she doesn't have a person.
Speaker 3: You mean, someone to be there with her, like a
Speaker 3: support system. Yeah, like she goes anyone in the group
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like even when she goes to Heather and she
Speaker 2: goes to show like they're all about to go out
Speaker 2: to dinner or whatever.
Speaker 3: And what is that picture.
Speaker 2: For the years, she's continuously shown that she's emotional and
Speaker 2: that she's upset and that she is in a frail situation.
Speaker 2: So even when she shows up to Heather's room.
Speaker 3: Well, everybody gets tired of it. Everybody got tired of
Speaker 3: my situation, and I was angry and yelling and every
Speaker 3: for two years, people get tired of it, Like the
Speaker 3: women get tired of it. And even if they're trying
Speaker 3: to be there for you, there's only so much they
Speaker 3: can give. Yeah, that goes across a board. I'm not
Speaker 3: giving Heather a pass. I'm just saying for everybody, tamera,
Speaker 3: all of them, like, there's only so much you can do.
Speaker 3: When you're filming these shows and someone's really going through
Speaker 3: it personally, you want to help them, but everybody's tired.
Speaker 2: Everybody's tired.
Speaker 3: Everybody's tired. And that's not to say that you're not there,
Speaker 3: but everybody's trying to get through. Everybody's trying to do
Speaker 3: their thing. And it can come off like, but do
Speaker 3: you think.
Speaker 2: We're gonna see these videos or do you think I
Speaker 2: don't know, but what are your thoughts on? I mean,
Speaker 2: even when Shannon goes to talk to Heather, she tells
Speaker 2: her how she found out about the videos. Shannon says,
Speaker 2: the night she added to UI, she lost control of
Speaker 2: her car, went unconscious, woke up in the hospital. But
Speaker 2: somehow in the midst of all of it, since that
Speaker 2: bloody photo to John and he never came over to her,
Speaker 2: and that he's a monster allegedly.
Speaker 3: So what are you asking me?
Speaker 2: I'm asking all about it, Like, what do you believe
Speaker 2: in all of this?
Speaker 3: I believe she hit the house. I believe she was
Speaker 3: under the influence. I think that if it says delivered
Speaker 3: underneath the picture, she did send the picture. I do
Speaker 3: not know, but she was unconscious.
Speaker 2: Now that you said that, Yes, we did not see
Speaker 2: a text picture she went into her phone category.
Speaker 3: Or did we just solve this mystery?
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 3: We're really smart, so she didn't show Like, here's that's
Speaker 3: what I was going to say. If if it's a
Speaker 3: text message and it says delivered and it's blue, then
Speaker 3: the other guy got it. Yeah, but if I go
Speaker 3: into my camera.
Speaker 2: Remember she was scrolling camera to show us.
Speaker 3: So did she just take the picture or did she
Speaker 3: send the picture?
Speaker 2: And did he really ignore it?
Speaker 3: You don't know unless you see the text.
Speaker 2: But which they didn't show us.
Speaker 3: Nope, it's a problem.
Speaker 2: But did you have empathy for shann in this episode,
Speaker 2: or did you start to feel like she's I hate
Speaker 2: to say the word, but like victimizing herself.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I have empathy for Shannon, and especially when you're dealing
Speaker 3: with legal shit, it is terrible. I did think she
Speaker 3: made a bad choice in having a cocktail at lunch,
Speaker 3: which only makes you even more emotional and depressed. So
Speaker 3: that set her up for even more tears after, you know,
Speaker 3: at the massage or the perfume, or the you know,
Speaker 3: the revelation that there are ring camera videos. I don't
Speaker 3: think the alcohol helps at all. Never when we're filming
Speaker 3: alcohol ever, and it never helps and hurts quite honestly,
Speaker 3: just makes everything more sensitive. I'm not annoyed. I think
Speaker 3: that she's going through a lot. I know when I
Speaker 3: was going through my stuff, it just felt like the
Speaker 3: whole world was crashing on me continuously. So I feel
Speaker 3: badly for her. But I also understand how the other
Speaker 3: cast members are tired. Yeah, you know, they're tired, and
Speaker 3: the producers are tired. The only person that isn't tired.
Speaker 2: Of ratings, Yeah, I mean, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I think that you can agree with that. It's like
Speaker 3: everybody gets tired of and you having to repeat these
Speaker 3: stories over and over, and everybody's asking you over and over,
Speaker 3: and the other cast members are asking you over and over.
Speaker 3: Everybody gets tired.
Speaker 2: But I also think it is difficult when you have
Speaker 2: one cast member who can't show up and do their
Speaker 2: job anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, then you're holding production.
Speaker 2: Hostle, right, I think that. Like, so what we're seeing is,
Speaker 2: you know, we're seeing scenes for next week and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. We're seeing Shannon not be able to go
Speaker 2: to the group dinner, like.
Speaker 3: She's the only one she's got the bit. To be honest,
Speaker 3: she has the most momentum on the show right now.
Speaker 3: She is what they've built this season around was Shannon's
Speaker 3: you know, hard times. I mean that is true. Everybody
Speaker 3: has other things going on, but Shannon has the most momentum.
Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, I mean you're right. And if I was Shannon,
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have made it to the dinner either.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, we worked with someone that couldn't show
Speaker 3: up to the final party. Yeah, you know, she couldn't, right,
Speaker 3: And so that's frustrating because that person is the biggest
Speaker 3: part of the story and then they don't come right
Speaker 3: just for the record, I took no days.
Speaker 6: Off just for the record, neither did I for pregnant, pregnant,
Speaker 6: no fucking days.
Speaker 3: But I know I but yet, what I'm saying it
Speaker 3: is about Shannon. And it's hard when Shannon can't come,
Speaker 3: you know, because then so much focus has been on her.
Speaker 3: Then what else do we do?
Speaker 2: But do we trust Gina at this point?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm skeptical, That's how I feel.
Speaker 2: Like something.
Speaker 3: I'll wait and see I hit the I hit the one.
Speaker 3: I'll wait and see. I don't know. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3: I I'm one of these people that I'm willing to
Speaker 3: give you the chance to hang yourself. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you the chance, and let's see what you do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you think?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't tell if Gina is trying
Speaker 2: to produce herself.
Speaker 3: Don't do that anyone.
Speaker 2: I have like a little bit of a fear that
Speaker 2: Gina's trying to produce herself. And so that's why we're
Speaker 2: seeing so many different friendships tuning in and out, and
Speaker 2: we're seeing so many confessionals from her, which sometimes are
Speaker 2: really funny and sometimes I think are like I enjoy her.
Speaker 3: I think she moves the chau along. But I don't
Speaker 3: know where she stands in the in the and the trust.
Speaker 2: I don't I really don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that, but I will say she's
Speaker 3: working her set, you know she is.
Speaker 2: We're seeing her more than we're seeing most.
Speaker 3: Yes, but she's also the one saying things like the
Speaker 3: ring camera.
Speaker 2: So she's putting it out there and she's going Katie
Speaker 2: for season, let's go. I'm gonna throw you under the
Speaker 2: bus so then we can get all of your your
Speaker 2: report on Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh god, Okay, I'm sorry, Katie.
Speaker 2: Good luck to you. Well, okay, Well, we appreciate you guys,
Speaker 2: and we do think this is a good season, So
Speaker 2: keep tuning in and we'll answer all your questions next
Speaker 2: week and keep the recaps going. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Thanks,