1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camridge Edge. 2 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas and 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Hi. 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: I'm Erika Jane. 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: We are here. We've gotten a lot of questions which 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: we're just going to touch on quickly because we hate 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: to give the haters too much light. And you always 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: you always told me like, how many fucks do I give? 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: None? None? 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: Zero, none? But I am one of those people that 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: sometimes I give fox. 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: Of course, you're human being. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm a human being. So I commented back right after 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: I was on OC last week, there was somebody. I mean, 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: I granted, I got way more love than I ever 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: got when I was on Beverly Hills. 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: I thought, you did great job and you look beautiful, 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: thank you. 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: But there was somebody that commented, I hope you die, 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: and they did it with a one instead of an eye. 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: So I guess then you can get through. 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm not laughing at you. I just I've had this 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: happen to me so many times, and it's just it's sad, 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: you know, it hurts, and it's it's awful, and the 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: one gets you through. 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: Like and then you kind of think, would I ever 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: go to somebody's place of business and ask that they die? 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: And ask that they die? Like over a time, I mean, 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: I recap I don't know eight different television shows. I've 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: never wanted anybody to die. 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: No, And I think that sometimes people forget that we're 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: in the entertainment business and you know, saying things like that, 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: like would you go to someone's place of business and 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: just you know, I hope you die? Like it's like 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: you just said, like that's not come on. 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: But also I think part of entertaining television is having 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: your favorites and having people that bug the crap out 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: of you. 39 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: But that's what makes it. That's what makes shows work, 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: is that not everybody's getting along or you have differences 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: of opinion. You see you connect with different women on 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: different shows, but don't tell somebody to go die. 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, not everybody's everyone's cup of tea and you 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: that's why you see relationships even within the shows shift 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: because you may not you may not even be a 46 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: person that you're filming with cup of tea, but everybody changes, 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: and if we all stay the same, how miserable would 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: life be if we were all exactly the same for 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: our entire line. 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's not really growing or living. Nobody stays the same, yeah, 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: whether they're progressing forward or backward. Everybody's always in movement. 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: And then I think as if you're in a person 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: in social media and I know that you've gotten your 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: fair share of heat as well, if you comment on it, 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: then it's like you care. If you don't comment on it, 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: then it's like you're a pushover, like where. 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: Well you can't win, there's just no winning, but you 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: are you asking like what where is the line? 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Whether death is the line? 61 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: Death is the line? 62 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: Death is the line? 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: I remember like I should put a three fifty seven 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: to your head and blow your head off, And I 66 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: was like, that's not really very cool. 67 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's that might that might be where you're kind. 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: Of like, really, that doesn't mean that much to you. 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: This TV show that you need to comment like that, 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: like you're getting the attention you want, but at what cost? 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: And don't threaten people's lives. 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: And also like TV, this is a like whatever your 73 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: profile picture is is probably like your six cats or 74 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: your one dog or nothing or nothing, And I just 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: want you to imagine if I were to actually take 76 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: the time to go on your profile and attack. 77 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: You personally, how you'd feel. It'd be terrible. And I 78 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people really take that into consideration. Well, 79 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: you signed up for it, not really didn't. I didn't 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: sign up for that. I didn't. I also, in my marriage, 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: didn't sign up for what ended up happening. But that's 82 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: my choice. But certainly, you know this is a this 83 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: is a show, this is entertainment. You can't take it 84 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: that far. 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: No, And I think, yes, did I sign up to 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: go to Ralphs and maybe have a woman stop me 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: while I'm like picking out my kid cereal and have 88 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: her be like, oh my gosh, tell me about eric 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: A Jake? 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Of course I did sign up for that, but not 91 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: to die. 92 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: But not to die. I think that's the difference. If 93 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: you want to stop and chat and do whatever, that's 94 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: on me. If I look like hell and I have 95 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: to take a ban on, that's on me too. But 96 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: I never in the history, even if we get when too, 97 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: politics or whatever, the most dramatic of circumstances are I've 98 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: never in my life been like, I really hope this 99 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: person dies. I think that's something to think about when 100 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: you're watching this shows. 101 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: This should be for entertainment, well, yes, and it should 102 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: be fun and it should be silly, and you should 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: get mad and you should get sad. But there are limits. 104 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: There are limits in life, and one of them, too far, 105 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: is like wishing people to die. 106 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: And like, you know what, be like a regular person 107 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: and text your friends, Like for me, when I watch 108 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: like I'm watching the Chimp shit the Chip Show. Oh 109 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: my gosh, it's it's insane. But like, as you know, 110 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: we're on a group chat. I texted Renna and I'm like, 111 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, Renna, You're gonna die when you see 112 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: the Chimp show. Blah blah blah blah blah. I'm not 113 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: finding the chimp lady on Instagram message upset that she 114 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: breastfed the chimp? 115 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: What did she really. 116 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: But like see that regular person and gossip on a 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: group chat, like I'm sorry, I'm really gagging. Oh yeah, no, 118 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: she breastfed and she also got lip filler at the 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: nail place. 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: I don't know which is worse. 121 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: I don't actually know what's worse. I saw and I 122 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: was I was actually watching with Edwin I'm like, is 123 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: that numbing cream? Why she's at the nail salon? And 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: I was like, please tell me she and then he 125 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 2: laid her back and started injecting. I was like, actually, 126 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what's worse, breastfeeding a chimpanzee 127 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: or like getting a foot scrub and then your lips injected. Yeah. Well, 128 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: my point is I still don't know what the lady's 129 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: name is, or am I going to find her? Or 130 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: am I gonna tell her? 131 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: I No, we're not going to tell her anything like that. 132 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: So just remember we're in entertainment where I know it's 133 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: it's personal, yes, but sometimes there are limits and death 134 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: is too far. 135 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: So death is too far. We have gotten some additional updates. 136 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: It was Tamor's birthday this week. Happy Birthday, Happy birthday, 137 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: tam We love you. She got for her birthday, she 138 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: got a brow lift and a CO two laser, which 139 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: I have to ask you about. I know not everybody's 140 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: comfortable talking about what they've. 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: Gotten Morpheus, but not Coo. 142 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. I've done Morpheus. 143 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: I got Morpheus when I got my neck lift. 144 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: Did it work for you? 145 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: It did? 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: I like it. It worked for me too, but I was. 147 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: I was under when I got it, so they could 148 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: go deeper. 149 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Oh I wasn't. 150 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: Oh see the second time I got Morpheus, I wasn't 151 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: under it, and I was like a wimp. 152 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: Oh no, it hurts though. 153 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: And I barely had any swelling or anything. And She's like, 154 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't actually do it. So I don't 155 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: know exactly what the co two layers. 156 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: Is, but well, I think it's like it's a controlled burn. 157 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: But I know that it gives great results. So I'm 158 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: excited to see her results. 159 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: And you know what, I do love that. I don't 160 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: think everybody shares, but I do love that she is sharing. 161 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: Because she wants to. That's cool. And if you don't 162 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: want to, that's fine too. I mean that you're not owed. Yeah, 163 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: oh anybody, but if I want to share, cool? 164 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you see her the text from her mom? No, 165 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I died, she said. And then I 166 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: think she said, your face makes me want to throw up. 167 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: That is not right, Oh my god. 168 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: But then Tams like you guys all want to know 169 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: where I got my empathy? This is what like? And 170 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: I think this really shows it not empathy, but your 171 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: family dynamic like my dad is very similar. Like my 172 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: family's like always making fun like we If he doesn't 173 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: make fun of you, it means he doesn't like you. 174 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: Right, he didn't notice you, you didn't take the time. 175 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like so it's so it did make me laugh, 176 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: but Tam hopefully you heal well. The eye part, the 177 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: upper lift doesn't even seem like a problem. The laser 178 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: is what seems no. 179 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: I was told and I've never had this done. I've 180 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: never had any of this done, but I guess the 181 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: upper lift, the bleff. 182 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Is that what it's called. It's bleff this part of your. 183 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: Eye, the lid from hooting of the lids, so you 184 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: take it up and opened your eye. I've never had 185 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: that done, but apparently people really like it and it's 186 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: not that bad. The CO two laser, you know, is 187 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: swelling and the brow I think they cut your brow. 188 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean all all recovery is it's. 189 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: Very well. 190 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: Also, what's rough is Katie Janella accused of calling police 191 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: to report fake crime, causing wrongful arrest. This is in 192 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Touch weekly. I feel like she can't catch a break 193 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: on the world of news. But yet on the show, 194 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: we're really starting to enjoy her. 195 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: That's always how it is though shows great life stuck, yeah, 196 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: and the audience stations the other way. But it's not. 197 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: It's like your show is great and your life is 198 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: like fucked up, but nobody knows. Yeah, because so far. 199 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: She continuously shows me on the show like she's the 200 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: voice of reason, which led me to my next question 201 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: on Beverly Hills. Who did you think was the voice 202 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: of reason? 203 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: I thought Eileen Davidson was the voice of reason, and 204 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: then after that, I don't know. 205 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think who I I don't know 206 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: that I had a voice of reason. 207 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: I think you, Yeah, you had maniacs. I don't know maniacs. 208 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: That I ever. I mean I had people, I think 209 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: no matter what, no matter what we saw, Renna was 210 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: kind of always that person that. 211 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: Well, Renna's the person that's going to boil it down 212 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: to you, whether you like it or not. She's going 213 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: to tell you she adds levity to anything, right, But 214 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: she's also going to tell you this is going to 215 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: happen to you. Yeah, and if you don't take care 216 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 3: of it, and she's not wrong, she does not and 217 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: She's not. 218 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: One that at the end of the day, if you've 219 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: had a bad day, she's gonna if it's shit, she's 220 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: gonna be like that was gonna be this is gonna 221 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: be shit for you. 222 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: And but there's but she always lightens it up, like 223 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: you said, but you can overcome it. Let me tell 224 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: you how. 225 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, So I don't know when I was 226 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: on that there was necessarily a voice of reason, But 227 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: I have heard that Eileen. But I only filmed with 228 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: Eileen one time. Do you think she'll ever come back. 229 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: On the show? 230 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: I think you should no, because there were rumors this 231 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: past season that she was going to come. 232 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: Kind of feel like that's every season they say this 233 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 3: one's coming back. She's you know, everybody's coming back. I 234 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: don't know about that. 235 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: What we see may not always be what we get. 236 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: Katie Janella was accused of calling police with fake allegations 237 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: that led to a man being arrested for false imprisonment. 238 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: A man named Sidney Silva filed a lawsuit against Katie 239 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: in March twenty sixteen. Sydney said he had an incident 240 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: with Katie on the roadway in April twenty fifteen, It's 241 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: noted that Sydney was driving home when he noticed Katie 242 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: was texting while driving with several children in her car. 243 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: He said a driver who was texting killed his brother 244 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: eight years ago. He claimed, he shook his head in 245 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: disapproval as he passed Katie, which led to her following him. 246 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: Do not follow people, do Why would you ever follow? 247 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even drive, but like, I'm certainly 248 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: not chasing after. 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: Not chased after anyone ever. 250 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because can you explain this to me? The suit said. 251 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: Katie parked behind Silva, got out of the car, leaving 252 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: her children inside, and screamed at him. The man said 253 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: he pulled his cellphone out to tape Katie, which is 254 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: that illegal? No, you can tell because you can't tape 255 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: a phone. 256 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: Call, right, No, you cannot, but you but that's that's 257 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: in law. But you can video anything. Look at all 258 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: this shit. 259 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: Going around, okay, so you can video anybody, So anybody 260 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: in an effort to protect himself, which led to calling 261 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: nine one one falsely to report a crime. When the 262 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: police arrived minutes later, Katie communicated to them that Sydney 263 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: had blocked her path and prevented her from getting inside 264 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: her vehicle and leaving. But if she had already followed 265 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: him gotten out, this feels suspect. The police initially arrested 266 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: Sidney for false imprisonment, disorderly contact, and reckless driving. Upon 267 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: further investigation, the police determined that Katie was the primary 268 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: aggressor and that her allegations against Sydney were false. In 269 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Sydney and the officer agree to dismiss the case. 270 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 3: If this is true, and they agreed to dismiss the case, Katie, 271 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: you were a one lucky lady, because because that's fucked up, 272 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: if this is true, if what I'm reading is true, 273 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: and that you know, you chase after someone and then 274 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: said that he was the aggressor but he wasn't. But 275 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: also I want to point out something that's rough. 276 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: You know, how many seasons were you on Beverly Hills? 277 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: Are you bishop? What are you telling about? 278 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: I just fired you? Sorry, Actually you're done. 279 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: They hired me back at your ring. I tell you 280 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: something here, good for you? 281 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: No, how many seasons? 282 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: Nine? I've done nine seasons. 283 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: At what point did they start releasing any sort of 284 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: news reports things. 285 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: Like that Season one? I think so it was season Yeah, 286 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: of course I think that anytime, especially now, so especially 287 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: now when there's tons of like bloggers and you know, 288 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: everyone else, if you've done something like this, it will surface, 289 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: but faster. So while it may have taken months or 290 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: maybe happened after you were filming, now it's going to 291 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: happen very quickly. 292 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So we don't really know how we feel 293 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: about Katie, but so far we're seeing a lot of 294 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: her coming out about Heather, but really more is coming 295 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: out about her than Heather. Ever. Needing paparazzi at. 296 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: Disney, Heather doesn't need paparazzi anywhere. It's okay. 297 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: Heather's confessionals from on Point this week. 298 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: She was very good. 299 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: She made me laugh. 300 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: She's good. 301 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: Season eighteen, episode nine, Heather and Terry go back and 302 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: forth from La to OC. 303 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: They have which is a pain. By the way, I 304 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: know to every anyone that's listening or watching that does 305 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: not live in southern California, but it really it's a 306 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: it's a trip. 307 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: But also we have to be very clear, this is 308 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: for the show. Whenever he lives in both places. All 309 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: I know someone who does, I mean I did until 310 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: Bella started going right, So. 311 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 312 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: You just no, But I but that was before my 313 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: kids were actually in school. It's one thing to switch 314 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: back and forth between OC and Beverly Hills or OC 315 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: and Encino or whatever it is. But once you have 316 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: kids in school, it's almost important. It's not like it's 317 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: like a fifteen minute drive. 318 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: No, it's at what two hours? 319 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in traffic two and a half. Yes, but 320 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: if you have the opportunities to be at the Bowbo 321 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: Bay Club and. 322 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: Do all of that, well, don't they have a house there? 323 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: They know, they sold their house there. Good for them, 324 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: and now they're in a Yeah. 325 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: No, I'm serious as fuck, like I want everybody to 326 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: get rich. 327 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love. And then they talk essentially why they're 328 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: in LA as Terry and Heather's youngest, Ace is in 329 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: middle school. 330 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: And middle school is better in Los Angeles than it 331 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: is down in OC, much more accepting. Yeah, and which 332 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: I understand. 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: I understand. I love how open and supportive Heather and 334 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Terry are with their kids. I do too, But can 335 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: you please explain to me why he was dressed as 336 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: Neo from the Matrix while playing. 337 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: Pool, because maybe that's what doctor Debro likes. I don't know, 338 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: maybe that's his fashion choice. I actually liked the matrix, 339 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: so I'm okay, I don't know. 340 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: But I also want to know. If I asked you 341 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: right now, can you hang a picture on my wall? 342 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Could you do it? 343 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: No? Fuck? And let me tell you, no man that 344 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: I've ever been married to could either me. 345 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Neither. 346 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: Yes, So we don't need to be I mean, I'm 347 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: not watched that. And I was like, listen, Tom used 348 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: to ask me to do shit and I was like, no, 349 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm not getting up and you know, cleaning the gutters. Dude, Like, 350 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: I don't do that. 351 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: No, Like you drove into my house today, I'm sure 352 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: you could see all the trees on like the front 353 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: of the thing. I said to Edone, I'm like, are 354 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: you gonna have somebody like blow that stuff off anytime sooner? 355 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: Or we're just gonna wait until the whole thing's covered. 356 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: He's like, what am I going? 357 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm gonna. 358 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: Jump off the balcony and wipe it off. 359 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: And sen I was not married to a man that 360 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: could have done anything like that. 361 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: So now if you were to get remarried, which I 362 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: know you're not interested, in doing currently, what would you 363 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: want to be with somebody that was handy. 364 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: I would prefer to be with someone that was more 365 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: handy than my last husband, which isn't saying much. 366 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: I would prefer to be married to somebody that could give, 367 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: like a massage. 368 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: I would prefer to be married to somebody that can 369 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: build a castle, okay, or afford a castle. That's my point. Yes, 370 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: a castle, you know what I mean? Like, that's what 371 00:16:53,400 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm getting at stability. 372 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: So the ladies pack for Sonoma, where Heather is doing 373 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: an event with family equality. Do you pack your clothes 374 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: in white tissue? No? 375 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: I do it in plastic. But I do appreciate her technique. 376 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why I knew some kind of 377 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: shit like those. 378 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: I'll tell you why no wrinkles tissue paper and I 379 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: wonder if hers is acid free? Just and the reason 380 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 3: I'm asking is because it matters on your clothing. Ask around. 381 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: So I take plastic so that it's just the garments 382 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: lay better and they don't get asrinky. Okay, yeah, tissue, no, 383 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 3: but I do appreciate. Look, I'm with Heather. You know 384 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: how it is when you get something from a really 385 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: beautiful store. It's boxed, packed beautifully. You open it up 386 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: the tissue paper like, I get it. It's cool. 387 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: I do get it. But it doesn't that take up 388 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: a lot of space. 389 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: One would think that's why I plastic great. 390 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: But then Jin flies alone to Sonoma because she is 391 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: court for temporary child support and alimony. 392 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: She just sounds awful, just court period. The sad thing 393 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: is that I'm sure she's spent a lot more in 394 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: legal fees to get just five. 395 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: Grand, or Ryan spending it. Well, yeah, but all the 396 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: ladies except for Gen go on Heather's private plane to Sonuma. 397 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We do need to clear this up when 398 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 2: we call something somebody's private. 399 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: Place that they chartered it they chartered? 400 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: Was it yours? 401 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: It was Tom's? Yeah? 402 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: Okay, so but nine times out of ten, like listen, 403 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: I can go to Jet. 404 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: Sweet X, which I've seen you at, I've seen you at, 405 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 3: I actually saw. 406 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: And every single time I go, it's like it's out 407 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: to get me. It's the Vanderpump Dogs or Vanderpump Rules 408 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: or whatever plane. Yes, remember the one that she wrapped. 409 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: It's the one to take me fucking place with. 410 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: That is God saying something to. 411 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: You, Yeah, it's like you'll never get a woman and 412 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: I see her face on the back. 413 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: Like yeah, and that is oh my god. 414 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten these planes are. 415 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: One else's yeah, nine times out of ten someone's you know, 416 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: they're not personal planes. 417 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: But either way, it's still freaking expensive. Beyond expensive. It's 418 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: like fifty thousand for an hour. 419 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: The thing on which aircraft you get or what deal 420 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: you strike, it's really the fuel cost more than anything, right, 421 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: So even a short trip to Sonoma is expensive. 422 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: But that's also why you can never. 423 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: Be late to a private jet because it takes off 424 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: when you wanted to. Well, if you're the if you're 425 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: held on, if it's your plane, yes you can fucking 426 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: be whatever time you want. But if you're the guest, 427 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: you're never ever late, and you always wait until the 428 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: owner tells you where to sit, because that may be 429 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: their chair over there, and you'd be like, eh, but 430 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 3: that's where they like to sit, where they do that. 431 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: But how did you feel about her placing everybody in 432 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: their chairs? 433 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: I kind of liked it. I didn't bother me too much. 434 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: Did you like, would you be happy if you were 435 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: sit on the side chairs? 436 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: I've had that well, yeah, some configurations are like that, 437 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: so it's not it's not Heather's responsibility that the plane 438 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: came configured like that. 439 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: Sometimes you sit like that, Yeah, but would you be 440 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: happy with it? 441 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: I've done it. It didn't bother me. I fell asleep. 442 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: I feel like it does. I mean, Gina's saying she's 443 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: getting punished hold on, not just on the plane, but 444 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: being put in the car with Alexis after. 445 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: Well that, yeah, you and I both know that that happens. 446 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: You get put in cars with people and it's uncomfortable 447 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: and you're like, I remember when Durita and I it 448 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: was our first year and we had just fought it 449 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: out at the It was a thunderstorm before you came 450 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: on into in Hong Kong below the Buddha and we'd 451 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: all gotten stopping wet and we had to sit in 452 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: the minivan together and we're just like, and I'll never 453 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: forget we were handing each other so that she's it 454 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: was just one of those wow, you know, like I 455 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: don't know what she handed me up, like a towel 456 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: or something like, you know, just like I fucking hate you. 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: But that's that's the show you're making. 458 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: That's that's what ends up happening. And and that being said, 459 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: I would rather take somebody's jet and fly on the 460 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: side than have to take the eighty two thousand planes 461 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: you'd probably have to get all the time, all the time. 462 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: The time. 463 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: Alexis wants to say to Shannon that she wants to 464 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: put everything aside and doesn't want to make things worse. 465 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: Gina tells her she can't release the ring videos. Alexis 466 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: then says she wants Shannon to understand how bad Shannon 467 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: has hurt people. But here's the thing. You don't want 468 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: Shannon to understand how bad she's hurt people. You want 469 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: to give her a public lashing for whatever John is 470 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: telling you. And it's to me, it's giving unhinged. 471 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: Well, to me, it's giving. It's not your fight. Like 472 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: the ring camera videos, whether they are going to destroy 473 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: Shannon or not, are simply between On and Shannon, and 474 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: they have to fight that out. Alexis chiming in doesn't 475 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: really help the situation actually hurts. Does that make sense? Like, 476 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 3: let let if the ring videos are going to come out, 477 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: fucking let him come out, man, But you don't need 478 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: to comment on that. If you want to. It's not 479 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: Alexis's place to say. You have heard everybody. Everybody knows. 480 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: But also if everybody knows that good of a place 481 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: with the guy, yeah it should matter. 482 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: Let him fight his own fight. I'm trying That's like, 483 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: that's what I'm trying to say. Let John fight his 484 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: own fight. Alexis, he can do it. 485 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: And I do realize that, like Alexis does have her 486 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: deeming qualities when I'm with her in person, but watching this, 487 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm just like, please stop. 488 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's enough. 489 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: It's enough. Shannon says, in her wildest dream, did she 490 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: ever think John would be doing interviews on the Red Carpet? 491 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: He would tell Shannon that she ruined his life by 492 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: making his life public, but now he's on Red carpet. 493 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: But we see this a lot, Yeah, we see this 494 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: a lot. In our little group. You hated it, you 495 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: didn't want any part of it, and now all of 496 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: a sudden, you're basking in it. So this is not 497 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: just John. We've seen this a lot. 498 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: But I also think there's a difference between being with 499 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: somebody prior to them joining the show and thinking that 500 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: you don't like it and coming into it versus choosing 501 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: a person well that's already on a show, and then 502 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: choosing another person. 503 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: So clearly he likes it. But what I'm saying is 504 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: that we see people I don't ever want to have 505 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: anything to do with it, but really they do, is 506 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 507 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: And and also I do understand the what Shannon's saying 508 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: when she's like, John really wants to be liked. He 509 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: wants to see well a good. 510 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: Guy, right, but he We all want that best version 511 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: of ourselves told out there. I know that, Like nobody 512 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 3: wants the truth to be told because we're all flawed. 513 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: We're all human beings. There's good and there's bad, So 514 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: of course everybody wants to be liked. I'm not saying 515 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: that's like, I get it, but you know that's not 516 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: always the case. There's people are flawed. 517 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, Shannon says she countered John regarding the seventy five 518 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: thousand and offered him half the money. 519 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: What's half a seventy five tips? 520 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: Do you think I freaking know? Is that forty I 521 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 522 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: Clearly as we as we know geniuses over here. 523 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, okay, if somebody offer, like so let's 524 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: say tomorrow, you and I start dating, I decide that 525 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, listen, I'm going to give you this. 526 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, or I put you down to the 527 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: point that you think that you need something, Like I'm 528 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: just gonna say you're tits, even though clearly they're hot. 529 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: But let's say I'm like Erica, we're dating, I think 530 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: your tits are lackluster. 531 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: I okay, yes, And you're gonna buy me new boobs? Yeah. 532 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: Like, And I'm like, in order for me to really 533 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: get off, really, I want to give you new tips, okay, 534 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: and then I want to charge you later for them. 535 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: You can't do that. You have to give without A 536 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: gift is a gift, you know what I'm saying. Like, 537 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: a gift is a gift. If you give it, you 538 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: can't ask for it back. 539 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: So that's really that's the part that's really bothering me. 540 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: But then she's still stuck on how much money she's 541 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: given prior to Bes. 542 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: But Emily raises a good point when she says, sometimes 543 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: you just have to pay people to get them out 544 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: of your life, and like it will be over and done. 545 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean, Shannon did buy the three hundred dollars paragamas. 546 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: Well, clearly they're cool because he's still wearing them. 547 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: What would do you want your boyfriend to wear the pheragamals. 548 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: Do you think that Alexis knew that those were Shannon 549 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: bought Pharagamas? No? Do you have Do you think that 550 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: Alexis is upset now that she knows that Shannon Boughs 551 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: for sure? 552 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: Because upset as she is that she got a David 553 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: Yeerman promis ring, I'd be furious, I mean, would you No? 554 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: I would want a cartoon annyone that's listening. 555 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: No, Jess. So you guys know nobody wants David Euromin anymore. 556 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: It may be coming back, but I don't want it. 557 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: It's not my style. I want Cartier. I want Cartier. 558 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: But so Emily makes a good point, She's like, just 559 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: pay off the whole. 560 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: Thing, get him into a confidentiality, do something, wrap it 561 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: up airtight with his lawyer, pay him and get him 562 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: out of your life. Sometimes you have to do that, 563 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 3: Like when Emily said that, I think it was kind 564 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: of brushed over, but it really is true. If in fact, 565 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 3: you want to get rid of this and you want 566 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: it all to go away, and there's nothing to fight 567 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 3: for here, right the fucking check and be free. Now, 568 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: you're not going to be free of Alexis and John 569 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: if you don't. 570 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Have the money. Do we think there's a chance I 571 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: don't know about that she doesn't have the money. 572 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: Listen, I don't look to speculate about somebody's finances. Who 573 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: fucking knows. 574 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: But I do think the seventy five thousand might be 575 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: difficult for her at this point of time, with your 576 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: only point of income and you're no longer married to David. 577 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, funds could be tight. H Well, I 578 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: know mine are, Okay, so speculate, I would say. 579 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: We'd be here slanging right, Yes, Shannon's lawyers here, Yeah, 580 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: somehow we show up. But anyways, Then Heather does a 581 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 4: champagne collaboration with Family Equality called GEMS, and some of 582 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: the ladies go to taste the sparkling wine. Jen shows 583 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: up and tells them that they settled on temporary support 584 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: of six thousand a month for her five kids. 585 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: Heather is six thousand a month on white tissue paper. 586 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: I think that's what she probably spends at least. Okay, 587 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 2: so let's think about a kid. 588 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: Kids a lot. Look, six for five kids is not 589 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 3: a lot. And I know in some places it is. 590 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: But when you're talking about the cost of living, like 591 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: where they live in Orange County and shit like that, 592 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: especially in LA where we are, this is nothing. 593 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: Like my mom was married. I can put it into 594 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: you in these terms like back in the eighties. Yes, 595 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: my mom was married to a rock star, a real rocks, 596 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: a real rock star, and she got a lump sum 597 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: when she got a divorce, and then per kid until 598 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: we were eighteen, she was given twenty five hundred dollars 599 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: per child, which is, yes, which is considered nothing nothing, 600 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: but it's still a shit ton more than Jenn's getting. 601 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, for right now, it's temporary. Still, let's see, but 602 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: this is not enough money for her and those children. 603 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: No, and if you've made the effort to adopt additional children, yes, 604 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: it just feels like. 605 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: This is a strugg you know, this is hard for her. Again, 606 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: Let's keep in mind this is where they're you know, 607 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: there are gonna be people in the comments. They're gonna 608 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: be like, that's a lot of money. 609 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: No, in Orange County it's really not. And we have 610 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: to be clear. To go to a private school in 611 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, it's thirty nine thousand dollars. 612 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's gone up since my kid was 613 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: in here. 614 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty nine thousand dollars for third grade. So they 615 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: better be a fucking genius. Yeah, like Einstein. Yeah, it's 616 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: it's really crazy. Then we see Shannon lawyer Dave. He 617 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: calls her. I'm wondering if this is the same day 618 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: that was their criminal guy. They all look the guy 619 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: looks the same no matter what he's doing. And is 620 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: this the same guy that was there for the. 621 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking. Does he represent her all the 622 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: way around or does she have another civil guy for this? 623 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: This I don't know, but she says she won't go 624 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: up another penny. This is where Emily tells her to 625 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: avoid the boys. 626 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: Check write the check. I agree with Emily. 627 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: I think that Emily can just be direct, but she's 628 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: like Emily also knows about the video at this point, 629 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: and Shannon does not. 630 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but let us say, so what to me? They 631 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: are two separate things. We have two separate fights here. 632 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: What are you saying? So this is where it gets 633 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: into this. Are you saying, if I don't give you 634 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: the seventy five grand, you're going to release these videos? 635 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: I think so okay, but you can't do that. Even 636 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 3: Emily says that sounds like extortion. You cannot do that. 637 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean you can, but you can get you know, 638 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: that's you don't do that. But I'll also to ask 639 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: you this, what's on those ring videos that's going to 640 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: make that big of a difference. Hasn't she already ran 641 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: into the house and got a dui and blowing and 642 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: you know, like, what more is there? 643 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, according to what they said to Katie and Gina 644 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: was that she almost ran over John's daughter allegedly. 645 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: That's bad. 646 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: That also. 647 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: Just when I was getting somewhere. This is why and 648 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: drunk is so bad is because you could, if in fact, 649 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: you could, you know, put people in harm. That's like 650 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: the house. If you hit somebody, you know, hit the house, 651 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: don't hit the person. 652 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's clear this is a 653 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: toxic relationship. But we will we will get back to 654 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: that after we get through the perfumes and Emily saying 655 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: the taco smile. I was like, Emily, shut it. I 656 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: don't like yeah, no, no, it wasn't funny to me. 657 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: Then Heather said she invited Katie's to Sonoma because she 658 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 2: didn't want to exclude her. Tarmra says, the more she 659 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: gets to know Katie, the more she thinks Gina is 660 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: behind bringing the paparazzi love Tamra or low Tamera. I 661 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: do appreciate her ability to get things moving and camera. 662 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that's why she's on the show. She's very good. 663 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like she's gonna get it. 664 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. You can criticize her, you 665 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: can say all that Tama makes that show work. Yeah, 666 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: So that's why she's there, and that's why you like her, 667 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: and that's why you like to dislike her. Motherfucker moves 668 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: the show around. 669 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and whether she's on five minutes or fifty minutes, 670 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: she's moving. 671 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: She's impactful. 672 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Then Tamra asked Alexis she's not afraid to be disliked. No, 673 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: thank goodness, because I hate that. Then Tamar asked Alexis 674 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: if Shannon paid John. Alexis told John to settle since 675 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: he was getting something and John said no. She says 676 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: John is not stopping and will File also bugs me 677 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: that she calls him Johnny. It really does. 678 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, his name is John, Like, well it was. 679 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: I have bugs, Gina. 680 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: I know why you think that because you think that 681 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: that's what she calls them in their heads. 682 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Johnny, Oh, Johnny. 683 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: That's as bad as that chimp breastfeeding. Yeah, really, maybe. 684 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: It's so gross. Then Gina says Alectra said stay out 685 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: of the drama and makes a comment about the videos. 686 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 2: Shannon asked, what the video. 687 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Gina, you did your job, honey. 688 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: But then she let Katie carry it out. 689 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: They both did their fucking jobs. I literally was sitting 690 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: there like this. 691 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: Like, oh wow, but they tried the week before, yeah, 692 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: the traders, but yeah, you fucked it up. No, No, 693 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: I mean I could ruin a wet dream, but I 694 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe, but no, I was sitting there and 695 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: I saw Gina bring it up and then all the 696 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 2: women were like stop stop, top top top. So she 697 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: had already been trying to put it out there, which 698 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: is great. She did her job. 699 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to come out. Listen, everybody knows, the 700 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: audience knows. It's only a matter of time before Shannon knows. 701 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: No matter which way it gets out, you can agree. 702 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: With that, it's always going to get out. But I 703 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: do want to know something like Shannon doesn't seem well. 704 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: This entire episode, she seems really distraught and so maybe, yeah, 705 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: but there's no good time for this. You shouldn't be 706 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: on a reality TV show. That's not the way it works. 707 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: We all been on the show during terrible times in 708 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: our lives. It's hard to watch her, but there's no 709 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: good time to bring us up. 710 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: But don't you think the rest of the season, Shannon's 711 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: actually seemed pretty good, like to me compared like for 712 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: what she's going through, I'm like, you know what, she 713 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: looks like she's handling things this week. She seems kind 714 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: of frail, very broken, broken, shaky. 715 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just a lot of tears, like lots and 716 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: lots of tears, Like she cries. But it feels like 717 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: there's a lot on her. 718 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: But it also feels like she doesn't have a person. 719 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: You mean, someone to be there with her, like a 720 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: support system. Yeah, like she goes anyone in the group 721 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: as well. 722 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, like even when she goes to Heather and she 723 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: goes to show like they're all about to go out 724 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: to dinner or whatever. 725 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 3: And what is that picture. 726 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: For the years, she's continuously shown that she's emotional and 727 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: that she's upset and that she is in a frail situation. 728 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: So even when she shows up to Heather's room. 729 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: Well, everybody gets tired of it. Everybody got tired of 730 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 3: my situation, and I was angry and yelling and every 731 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: for two years, people get tired of it, Like the 732 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: women get tired of it. And even if they're trying 733 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: to be there for you, there's only so much they 734 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 3: can give. Yeah, that goes across a board. I'm not 735 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 3: giving Heather a pass. I'm just saying for everybody, tamera, 736 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: all of them, like, there's only so much you can do. 737 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: When you're filming these shows and someone's really going through 738 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: it personally, you want to help them, but everybody's tired. 739 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: Everybody's tired. 740 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: Everybody's tired. And that's not to say that you're not there, 741 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: but everybody's trying to get through. Everybody's trying to do 742 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: their thing. And it can come off like, but do 743 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: you think. 744 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna see these videos or do you think I 745 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: don't know, but what are your thoughts on? I mean, 746 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: even when Shannon goes to talk to Heather, she tells 747 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: her how she found out about the videos. Shannon says, 748 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: the night she added to UI, she lost control of 749 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: her car, went unconscious, woke up in the hospital. But 750 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: somehow in the midst of all of it, since that 751 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: bloody photo to John and he never came over to her, 752 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: and that he's a monster allegedly. 753 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: So what are you asking me? 754 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: I'm asking all about it, Like, what do you believe 755 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: in all of this? 756 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: I believe she hit the house. I believe she was 757 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: under the influence. I think that if it says delivered 758 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: underneath the picture, she did send the picture. I do 759 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: not know, but she was unconscious. 760 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: Now that you said that, Yes, we did not see 761 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 2: a text picture she went into her phone category. 762 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: Or did we just solve this mystery? 763 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: We did. 764 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: We're really smart, so she didn't show Like, here's that's 765 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: what I was going to say. If if it's a 766 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: text message and it says delivered and it's blue, then 767 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 3: the other guy got it. Yeah, but if I go 768 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: into my camera. 769 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: Remember she was scrolling camera to show us. 770 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: So did she just take the picture or did she 771 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 3: send the picture? 772 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: And did he really ignore it? 773 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 3: You don't know unless you see the text. 774 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: But which they didn't show us. 775 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: Nope, it's a problem. 776 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: But did you have empathy for shann in this episode, 777 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: or did you start to feel like she's I hate 778 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: to say the word, but like victimizing herself. 779 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: No. 780 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: I have empathy for Shannon, and especially when you're dealing 781 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: with legal shit, it is terrible. I did think she 782 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: made a bad choice in having a cocktail at lunch, 783 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 3: which only makes you even more emotional and depressed. So 784 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: that set her up for even more tears after, you know, 785 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: at the massage or the perfume, or the you know, 786 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 3: the revelation that there are ring camera videos. I don't 787 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: think the alcohol helps at all. Never when we're filming 788 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: alcohol ever, and it never helps and hurts quite honestly, 789 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: just makes everything more sensitive. I'm not annoyed. I think 790 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: that she's going through a lot. I know when I 791 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 3: was going through my stuff, it just felt like the 792 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: whole world was crashing on me continuously. So I feel 793 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: badly for her. But I also understand how the other 794 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: cast members are tired. Yeah, you know, they're tired, and 795 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: the producers are tired. The only person that isn't tired. 796 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 2: Of ratings, Yeah, I mean, so you know what I mean. 797 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 3: I think that you can agree with that. It's like 798 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: everybody gets tired of and you having to repeat these 799 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: stories over and over, and everybody's asking you over and over, 800 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 3: and the other cast members are asking you over and over. 801 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 3: Everybody gets tired. 802 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: But I also think it is difficult when you have 803 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: one cast member who can't show up and do their 804 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: job anymore. 805 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: Well, then you're holding production. 806 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: Hostle, right, I think that. Like, so what we're seeing is, 807 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: you know, we're seeing scenes for next week and blah 808 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: blah blah. We're seeing Shannon not be able to go 809 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: to the group dinner, like. 810 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 3: She's the only one she's got the bit. To be honest, 811 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 3: she has the most momentum on the show right now. 812 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: She is what they've built this season around was Shannon's 813 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, hard times. I mean that is true. Everybody 814 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: has other things going on, but Shannon has the most momentum. 815 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, I mean you're right. And if I was Shannon, 816 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have made it to the dinner either. 817 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, we worked with someone that couldn't show 818 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: up to the final party. Yeah, you know, she couldn't, right, 819 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: And so that's frustrating because that person is the biggest 820 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 3: part of the story and then they don't come right 821 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: just for the record, I took no days. 822 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 6: Off just for the record, neither did I for pregnant, pregnant, 823 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 6: no fucking days. 824 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: But I know I but yet, what I'm saying it 825 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: is about Shannon. And it's hard when Shannon can't come, 826 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: you know, because then so much focus has been on her. 827 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: Then what else do we do? 828 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: But do we trust Gina at this point? 829 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm skeptical, That's how I feel. 830 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: Like something. 831 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 3: I'll wait and see I hit the I hit the one. 832 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: I'll wait and see. I don't know. I don't, I don't. 833 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 3: I I'm one of these people that I'm willing to 834 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 3: give you the chance to hang yourself. And I'm gonna 835 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: give you the chance, and let's see what you do. Yeah, 836 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: what do you think? 837 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't tell if Gina is trying 838 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: to produce herself. 839 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 3: Don't do that anyone. 840 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: I have like a little bit of a fear that 841 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: Gina's trying to produce herself. And so that's why we're 842 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 2: seeing so many different friendships tuning in and out, and 843 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: we're seeing so many confessionals from her, which sometimes are 844 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: really funny and sometimes I think are like I enjoy her. 845 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: I think she moves the chau along. But I don't 846 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: know where she stands in the in the and the trust. 847 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't I really don't know. 848 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that, but I will say she's 849 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: working her set, you know she is. 850 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: We're seeing her more than we're seeing most. 851 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: Yes, but she's also the one saying things like the 852 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 3: ring camera. 853 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: So she's putting it out there and she's going Katie 854 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: for season, let's go. I'm gonna throw you under the 855 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: bus so then we can get all of your your 856 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 2: report on Yeah. 857 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 3: Oh god, Okay, I'm sorry, Katie. 858 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: Good luck to you. Well, okay, Well, we appreciate you guys, 859 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: and we do think this is a good season, So 860 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 2: keep tuning in and we'll answer all your questions next 861 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: week and keep the recaps going. Yeah. 862 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: Thanks,