WEBVTT - Draft Show: Paper Trails and Breadcrumbs 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:09.520 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.280 for insder news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:17.840 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.920 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.200 Today is Tuesday, March twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, and 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.520 we are officially twenty four days away from the NFL 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.560 Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, everybody, 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.440 as We've got Zach Woltschuck, We've got Brian Bradis, We've 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.760 got Vox Lombardi and Nick Harris on the show with 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.400 Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans, presented by 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.400 Miller Lte, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. It 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.880 is Miller time and we are now within a month 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.680 away from the NFL Draft and things are starting to 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.200 ramp up very quickly here Nick Harris, We're gonna start 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.680 seeing some third thirty visit names start to handle. Pro 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.039 days are currently in action, a lot of big ones 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:05.959 coming up this weekend too. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:06.160 Yeah. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:07.280 I don't mean to be a hater, but I think 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.440 it's thirty days. Thirty days until the draft. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:10.039 What did I say? 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:10.720 Twenty four? 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.280 It's okay, Why did I say twenty five? We can 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.360 use twenty four next more than No, it's. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.320 Definitely thirty days, just a week ahead. What did I say? Yeah, Yeah, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.680 I don't know. Don't don't worry. That's the second time 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:20.600 I've misspoke today. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.319 On first of the week. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.200 First of the week, I'm talking with the boys, I said, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.000 Dave Hinney or Dave hitting And. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:29.600 That's aeth wait to Dent Ryan Raiders. Yeah, no, he 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.240 went to Memphis. All right, So there we go. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.759 Yeah, thirty days. My bad, but yeah, thirty days. We're 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.559 right under a month left, and we've got. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.360 A lot of stuff still to be sifted through here, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.119 Brian is this is. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.679 This the busiest time for the scouting department trying to 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.039 put all these boards together. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.000 Now, it's you know, there's some teams that out there 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.800 doing workouts right now. I mean, I know, yesterday doing 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.520 a radio show, watching watching a ward work underneath center. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.360 You know, it seems like to me that's the big 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.360 thing is some of these quarterbacks that are playing in 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.720 today's game are all playing in the show. So we 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.840 got these NFL scouts and coaches want to see them 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.560 play take reps from underneath center. So yeah, we're we're 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.520 in the process right now of kind of getting all 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.000 those things done, and when the first of April comes around, 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.720 then we'll all kind of reconvene and then that's when 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.040 you'll start putting these boards together. So it's a it's 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.720 a good time. They just make sure you get all 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.600 the final numbers and make sure nobody fell through the cracks. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.600 And there's some guys that are probably you know, help 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.320 themselves with some pro days. Maybe they're maybe a priority 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.480 free agent that all of a sudden now they're a 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.399 sixth round guy. So a lot of work is still 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.000 to be done. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.520 Yeah, finding these diamonds in the rough votch, trying to 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.720 get some guys on the board that you maybe didn't 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.639 have initially, and try and build relationships too. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:44.880 That's a big part of this moment. 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.519 Yeah, yeah, man, you know, I'm just watching film, you 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.400 know what I mean, I'm just I'm just watching film. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.200 And then you know, Nick Harris is gonna tweet, Oh, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.359 the Cowboys thought such and such of this doing. I'm 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.160 gonna go, oh, I never heard that. Let me go 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.840 watch the film on that dude real fast, last minute, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.200 so I could be so I could be ready to go. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:05.000 But yeah, man, the visits, the workouts, they have nothing 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.040 to do with me. In particularly, I show up and 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.320 I watch film. My job on this show is to 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.120 kind of, you know, get an idea of the player, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.440 and you know, when I learn more about the coaches 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:14.960 and what they want to do, then I could take 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.880 those players that we watched and kind of apply it there. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.040 But that's that's not my lane at all. I don't 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.320 think I learned very much unless somebody tweets somebody and 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.679 then I go, cool, Now we don't. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:24.920 Now you get on the film. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.720 I would pay attention to one thing, please, I'd pay 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.960 attention with position coaches go to schools and work guys out. Yeah, sure, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.880 head coaches, not so much. Position coaches. If your position, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.520 if Nick and others are tweeting about that, certain position 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.800 coaches are at certain big schools watching workouts. For example, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.240 we got pro days coming up at Ohio State, Texas, A, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.200 and M. If your if your coaches are out watching 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.040 these pro days, your position coaches keep an eye on that. 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.240 That's that's a that's a pretty good indicator right there. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.280 What they're trying to think about with these guys, is. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.920 There anything kind of standing out from the bread crumbs 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.200 that we've seen so far, Nick on where those guys 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:02.600 have been. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.320 Yeah, certainly we can look at last week and throughout 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.160 the last couple of weeks. Matti ebra Fluss has been 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.240 super active. He went to three different SEC pro days. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:12.360 I know we talked about it on this show a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.240 little bit, but he went to Tennessee, Georgia, and South 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.320 Carolina and then Oregon. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:17.920 Last week was a notable one. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.520 They had a wide receivers coach Junior Adams, offensive line 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.960 coach Connor Riley, and defensive line coach Aaron Whitecotton kind 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.800 of reading the tea leaves on that Junior Adams I 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.920 think was just going to support his former Oregon guys. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.520 Obviously he came from that Oregon staff. Then you look 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.320 at the offensive line, I mean you could be looking 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.920 at Josh Connery, you could be looking at Johnny Cornelius 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.080 maybe later in the draft. Defensive line Jordan Birch, I 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.120 know we've talked about him, Derek Harmon, maybe is he 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:42.800 more in play? 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.560 Jamari Caldwell, So I found that interesting. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.400 And then David Overstreet, the secondary coach, was at Florida 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:54.279 State late last week. So as ari A Thomas Central Cyprus. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.000 So those are a couple of guys that I think 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.760 could potentially work out in favor for the Cowboys, maybe 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.000 on day two or later. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.480 So this week is going to be the busy week. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.280 Like Brian mentioned, Ohio State, Texas, A and M you 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:10.680 also have Texas, you have Old Miss, you have some 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.840 other big ones as well. I'm forgetting off the top 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.520 of my head, but there's going to be a lot 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.279 of coaches out on the road this week. Heard Brian 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.920 Schottenheimer is going to be one of those coaches out 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.480 on the road this week, so keep keep an eye 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:20.000 on that as well. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:21.520 There's some big ones on the way. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.600 And the big the thing about with the head coach 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.719 being out there too and the fact that he can 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.880 shake hands see these kids maybe if he didn't seem 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.280 at the combine or things like that, you know, you 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.680 bring them in for the visits potentially if you really 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.200 really like the kid. But what it also does is 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.160 we've seen this in the past. We've seen coaches, especially 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.200 the head coach, stand up in the room when the 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.800 when they're on the clock, and we've seen Mike McCarthy, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.159 we've seen Jason Garrett We've seen guys stand up in 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.839 that room and they ask for their opinion. And the 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.680 more that Brian Schottenheimer knows about these players, and though 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.640 he's able to get a feel for about him, maybe 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.800 he's the guy that's in there, like, you know, breaking 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.920 a tie. You know, if they if you know, they 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.080 have a stack. But if it comes down to maybe 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.800 a way they want to go into position. Maybe they 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.279 have an offensive tackle and they're thinking about defensive tackle, 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.520 but it's close, they can go either way. This is 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.960 where your head coach can come in and say, let's 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.960 take the offensive tackle here. You know, I have a 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.680 feeling I saw the kid, met the kid like the kid. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.760 You know where that's where the coaches position coaches they're 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.679 going to kind of they're going to give their two cents. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:24.720 That head coach. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.320 We've seen it before, Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, those guys 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.279 will break some ties when it comes to players that 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.320 might be pretty similar on their boards. 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.120 Yeah, sorry to interject. These are some of the pro 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.560 days that are this week. I pull up a list 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.200 in front of me, Texas today. That's where our guy 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.000 Tommy Yarsh is heading down to Austin right now, to 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.440 see that one Boise State tomorrow, LSU tomorrow, Ohio State tomorrow. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.719 You also have Florida on Thursday, Texas A and M 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.400 Notre Dame on Thursday, oll Miss on Friday, Penn State 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.600 on Friday. So there's gonna be a lot going on 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:53.960 this week and the next week is going to be 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.200 more so the individual pro days for the guys who 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.560 were trying to catch up medically. So you're looking at 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.120 a Jalen Walker, Michael Williams, Will Johnson, Shador Sanders is 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.720 gonna throw next week as well, so the couple couple 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:05.279 more nickuls. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.520 Here being an update on what Will Johnson's going to do, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.160 because we were hearing there's going to be April fourteenth. Yes, 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.320 it was, well you heard more updates on. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:13.920 That as of as of what I have in front 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.040 of me, still scheduled for April fourteenth. The question now 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.560 is if he's going to run or not. Some people 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.560 are saying he's going to some people are saying he's not, so. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:21.760 He doesn't run. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.160 I The thing is for me for Will Johnson, what's 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.480 the point of having PROE if you're not running? Yeah, seriously, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.000 because that's the only question that that's that's left for 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.320 Will Johnson. We you know, you have the film to 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.400 back everything else up. Everyone wants to see post injury. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.000 So you know, that's why I show up to Will Johnson. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:40.480 If if you're not running. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.600 Well, he's had something, does it? 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:41.880 Yeah? 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.840 Is there something that he could fail to lose or 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.760 stand to lose if he does go out there and 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:47.760 run and he doesn't run? 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.280 Well, what I'm saying is why you even have a 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:49.680 pro day? 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.200 Yeah, that's that's what I'm just don't do it? 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.680 Yeah, because then you're saying, hey, I'm healthy, but I'm slow, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.440 you know. So it's like, it's what are we trying 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:56.640 to do? 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:56.920 Well? 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.640 What if you cancel it at this point you already 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.840 had it at April fourteenth, and you say, yeah, you 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.800 know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna run. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.680 Does that show confidence in the fact that you are 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.160 okay and you are healthy or is it hide the 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.160 fact that you're good? 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.480 Either way, I think I feel like you're in a 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.760 tough spot one way or the other. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.480 I mean, we we've talked about Will Johnson this show. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.040 I think Brian, I just I just asked. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.240 Question because you're on the pro days. I'm not trying 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.760 to hammer Will Johnson here. I'm just I'm just saying 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.080 if there's anything in the community, I mean, you have 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.760 got a great handle on when these pro days are 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.760 going off and who's working out and stuff. I was 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.080 just asking because, like I say, I wanted to make 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.960 sure that if he did work, you know, I had 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.200 the time. If he doesn't work, I want to put 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.000 him where I'm gonna put him. Yeah, if he if 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.080 I don't get a forty time on him, I'm not 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.480 gonna move the kid. I'm not I'm gonna leave him 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.480 as my fifth best cornerback on that draft board, you know, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.280 until he shows me that he is able. I wanted 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.000 to see again a time because I want to be 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:48.960 able to compare him to the other cornerbacks that are 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:49.520 on that board. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.440 That's all I'm asking. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.640 What if he does run, Will, like, how how. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.000 Much you know what I now I consider? I can 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.600 consider with him and Morse, with Morrison from Notre Dame, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.079 who's injured, could consider Okay, where where do I have Okay, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.000 Morrison's hurt is Morson too hurt to where he needs 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.400 to be down in the round or is he or 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.360 does he need to stay where he is. If if 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.160 in fact, this kid Johnson runs runs a time that 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.560 I feel like is good, then now now I have 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.120 consideration for him. Right now I have I have an 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.880 unknown for him because I'm trying to compare him to 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.319 the other guys and I can't compare his speed. I 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.680 could compare what I see on tape. I can't compare. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.600 And people will tell me, well, Brian, you got GPS numbers. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:32.040 No I don't. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.320 I'm a GPS numbers. I'm not a team. I'm not 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:35.800 a team. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:36.200 You know. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.800 I don't know what Well one time this guy ran 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.120 twenty three miles an hour on an interception turn. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.200 I'm not a team that. I'd love to be able 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.040 to get off to top speed. I'd love to be. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.880 Able to sit there and say, yeah, you know what 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.120 he did, he ran twenty three miles an hour against 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:50.960 Purdue in a game. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.080 I'd love to be able to say that, you know, 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.160 but I don't have that. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.440 What I do have is, though, if I can call 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.680 one of my guys and get a time that that 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.920 I can do, I could get. I can verify times 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.480 I've done it. I've done it all all spring long 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.160 so far, with guys that you know. Okay, good, that's 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.959 what this guy, that's what McMillan really runs. Okay, great, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:10.720 what'd you have that? 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.160 Oh? Four or five? Oh what'd you have that? Four? 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.959 Five three? Okay? I know he's somewhere probably around a 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.960 four five one four five two. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.240 So I know that you do that with yesterday. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:27.040 Yeah again that was a negative. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.520 But does he does he play for eight three? 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.400 I'm good on that you can have Does he played 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:35.000 for eight three? 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.240 I mean, seriously, you watch him play. The guy is quick. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.000 I mean you watch, you watch these games, you watch Louisville, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.600 you watch Cal you watch I mean the. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.280 Guys making plays. Yeah, he's four eight three. I guess 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.600 Clickerland fast quicker than four A three and small? Yeah, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.760 not a great combo. Uh, this is gonna be a 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.920 star in this league. He'll end up being a damn 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.080 good player. Zach. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.280 When you look at these pro days and the ones 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.680 that are coming up, whether they've already passed or wherever 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.440 they end up, where would you go if you were 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.840 a scout, what would be the best spot for you 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.640 to try and figure out the most about this draft class? 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.160 For the first boys, I got to go see these 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.360 Texas A and M D Line. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.840 Tommy Yar, I'm going man because. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.040 Man im out with Shamar Stewart and we've talked about 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.240 it like this dude could be a fifteen SAT guy. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.040 He could end up being in and out of the 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.280 league in a flash, right. The defensive tackles they got 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.439 there with Turner and then Scorting, you know, I want 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.960 to get up close and personal. I want to see 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.760 these guys, how they move, what makes them tick a 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.280 little bit. I mean, the one thing that we don't 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:36.200 really have is kind of the character stuff on these guys, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.080 the compete level. You know, I've heard the Big twelve 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.440 Pro Days, some players came out didn't want to do 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.319 a couple of workouts. Yeah, and there are some things 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.840 that where we're at, we're watching the players and that's 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.120 all we're really going to assess. But there are some 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.800 other things when it comes to off the field character, competitiveness, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.240 when you get into some of these workouts that stand 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.599 out to you in a certain way. We got to 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.480 see some of that at the Shrine Ball practice. Like 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.520 Kobe Bryant stout in a positive Supposedly he didn't stand 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.640 out in a positive at the Pro days here for 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.040 Big twelve, so you know some of these things. I 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.720 do think you can get an assessment with text A 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.720 and M man that stands out in a big way 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.120 for me. And then I am interested in Penn State 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.720 as well because Kevin Winston Junior is a safety to 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:16.960 me injured. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.920 I'd like to go see him up close. How's he 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:19.760 doing health wise? 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.440 Because the tape for him is really really good, Like 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.439 this safety class in the second round, you can get 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.000 some different difference makers. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.640 And he's a guy. Man. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.400 I know it's one year of really really good production 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.120 with him, but if he's healthy, that's a dude that 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.760 I could really fall in love with right there. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:35.920 And I'm telling you what. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.600 I got my ass kicked in the last Sunday, and 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.160 because I was in Austin, my LSU baseball. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.439 Team went down there and got their ass kicked. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.280 Sir, I'm going back to Austin because I'm gonna you 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.000 got Golden Banks, ye Blue? 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.320 Who else we got? 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.280 Yeah, we got soul, we got Barrett Macouba. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.760 He had a son of dude, Cuba safety woman. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.440 Yeah, watch watch me go to Austin and trying trying 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.040 to figure this thing out that that right that I 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.840 just named off a bunch of second round dudes on 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.160 my board, So I'm going to go down there and 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.200 check that out. I mean, I have Blue in the 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.160 third and so well is that you said? 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:13.559 So well? 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:18.880 The edge cREL Crell, I have him and the third. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.240 But man, I've got these these uh these, I got 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.280 second and third round guys that need to kind of 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.320 figure out there. That'd be a great pro day for me. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.200 Didn't l s you take game one of that? I 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.760 did Texas win the second two? Yeah? Wow? 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.520 Good for the longhornset like soccer or something. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.520 Where would you head you going back to Texas to 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.600 you're riding with Tommy Yards shotgun all the way down? 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.360 I would go, Man, but I'll just tell you over 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:42.240 the last couple. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.920 Of days, got Barren by the way, at that Texas 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:45.880 now said you got it? 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.160 I got it, you know, just going back over my board, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.840 going back over the film, looking in my round two guys. Man, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.079 I want to talk to Will Howard. I want to 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.680 talk to Josh Simmons. I want to talk to down 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.840 to the Jackson. I want to talk to Quin, Shawn Jenkins. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.240 Trayvon Howard, Love coming up now, I'm. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.800 Watching Will Howard right, and I just can't stop watching trevia. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:04.000 You know. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.360 So I just got a lot of questions and I 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.960 don't even have questions. I just got regular film due questions, right. 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.440 I'm not going to get to the bottom or anything. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.240 Just I just I just want to just watch y'all 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.560 run around and have fun. Ohio State got got a 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:15.520 ton of run around. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:15.719 And have fun. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:17.960 I just hope everyone has a good time. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.920 Catch If you guys can meet with one guy, if 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.800 you can meet with one one player this year, just 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.960 go up and you get to go any guy, any guy, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.000 any school, any school, any guy who do you want 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:32.800 to go meet and talk to Deon Walker? 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.120 You get an hour to talk to him. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.000 I've been I've been wanting to talk to Deon Walker 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.040 so bad and it's not going to be a respectful 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.760 conversation being him. Well, I mean because I feel like 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.480 what I have to talk to him about, I wouldn't 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.000 want to tiptoe around what we have to talk about, 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.440 you know, and we might end up ration. We might 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.680 why you loafing off? Yeh while you why did when 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.760 the ball snap? You just stood write up? You ain't 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.280 even step like what like, give me the answers to 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.200 some of this stuff. And honestly, I think coach is 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.080 gonna ask him that. You know what I'm saying, Hey, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.920 how come sometimes you look like a first round pick, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.680 a bona fide top fifteen guy. But other times you 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.280 look like why we mad at Maza? You know, I'm 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.680 just so curious to him, and I've just I've said 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:13.440 it here on this show. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.040 If you draft this guy, it's probably gonna. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.200 Be the fourth round or something like that, because people 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.400 got questions, right if he's the positive side of all that, boy, 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.040 would a steal you got? And let's just say, well, Chuck, 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.480 we take Derek Harmon in the second round and we 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.480 look at our fifth round boy and go, hey, man, 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.440 Walker still that and now that's a comboy of dudes 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.760 you got for the next five years. You hit on 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.040 that dude. Now you could miss on that dude. You 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.320 could miss on that dude, And now you run into 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.400 a David Irvis situation. He may not get drafted at 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:40.920 all because the questions, you know what I mean, We 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.640 may be sitting at this table, maybe not me, but 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.800 we sit at this table on day three and y'all 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.360 looking at me. In round seven, Vitch. Who's you got, hey, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.200 Deane Walkers just right there. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.760 For whatever reason he may falls, some coaches may just 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.680 have him off his board. Brian's been teaching me that 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.760 sometimes these guys just not gonna have you on your 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.840