Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room
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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, March twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: we are officially twenty four days away from the NFL
Speaker 2: Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, everybody,
Speaker 2: as We've got Zach Woltschuck, We've got Brian Bradis, We've
Speaker 2: got Vox Lombardi and Nick Harris on the show with
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Speaker 2: is Miller time and we are now within a month
Speaker 2: away from the NFL Draft and things are starting to
Speaker 2: ramp up very quickly here Nick Harris, We're gonna start
Speaker 2: seeing some third thirty visit names start to handle. Pro
Speaker 2: days are currently in action, a lot of big ones
Speaker 2: coming up this weekend too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to be a hater, but I think
Speaker 4: it's thirty days. Thirty days until the draft.
Speaker 5: What did I say?
Speaker 6: Twenty four?
Speaker 4: It's okay, Why did I say twenty five? We can
Speaker 4: use twenty four next more than No, it's.
Speaker 5: Definitely thirty days, just a week ahead. What did I say? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know. Don't don't worry. That's the second time
Speaker 5: I've misspoke today.
Speaker 6: On first of the week.
Speaker 2: First of the week, I'm talking with the boys, I said,
Speaker 2: Dave Hinney or Dave hitting And.
Speaker 5: That's aeth wait to Dent Ryan Raiders. Yeah, no, he
Speaker 5: went to Memphis. All right, So there we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty days. My bad, but yeah, thirty days. We're
Speaker 2: right under a month left, and we've got.
Speaker 5: A lot of stuff still to be sifted through here,
Speaker 5: Brian is this is.
Speaker 2: This the busiest time for the scouting department trying to
Speaker 2: put all these boards together.
Speaker 7: Now, it's you know, there's some teams that out there
Speaker 7: doing workouts right now. I mean, I know, yesterday doing
Speaker 7: a radio show, watching watching a ward work underneath center.
Speaker 7: You know, it seems like to me that's the big
Speaker 7: thing is some of these quarterbacks that are playing in
Speaker 7: today's game are all playing in the show. So we
Speaker 7: got these NFL scouts and coaches want to see them
Speaker 7: play take reps from underneath center. So yeah, we're we're
Speaker 7: in the process right now of kind of getting all
Speaker 7: those things done, and when the first of April comes around,
Speaker 7: then we'll all kind of reconvene and then that's when
Speaker 7: you'll start putting these boards together. So it's a it's
Speaker 7: a good time. They just make sure you get all
Speaker 7: the final numbers and make sure nobody fell through the cracks.
Speaker 7: And there's some guys that are probably you know, help
Speaker 7: themselves with some pro days. Maybe they're maybe a priority
Speaker 7: free agent that all of a sudden now they're a
Speaker 7: sixth round guy. So a lot of work is still
Speaker 7: to be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, finding these diamonds in the rough votch, trying to
Speaker 2: get some guys on the board that you maybe didn't
Speaker 2: have initially, and try and build relationships too.
Speaker 5: That's a big part of this moment.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, man, you know, I'm just watching film, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, I'm just I'm just watching film.
Speaker 8: And then you know, Nick Harris is gonna tweet, Oh,
Speaker 8: the Cowboys thought such and such of this doing. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna go, oh, I never heard that. Let me go
Speaker 8: watch the film on that dude real fast, last minute,
Speaker 8: so I could be so I could be ready to go.
Speaker 8: But yeah, man, the visits, the workouts, they have nothing
Speaker 8: to do with me. In particularly, I show up and
Speaker 8: I watch film. My job on this show is to
Speaker 8: kind of, you know, get an idea of the player,
Speaker 8: and you know, when I learn more about the coaches
Speaker 8: and what they want to do, then I could take
Speaker 8: those players that we watched and kind of apply it there.
Speaker 8: But that's that's not my lane at all. I don't
Speaker 8: think I learned very much unless somebody tweets somebody and
Speaker 8: then I go, cool, Now we don't.
Speaker 5: Now you get on the film.
Speaker 7: I would pay attention to one thing, please, I'd pay
Speaker 7: attention with position coaches go to schools and work guys out. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 7: head coaches, not so much. Position coaches. If your position,
Speaker 7: if Nick and others are tweeting about that, certain position
Speaker 7: coaches are at certain big schools watching workouts. For example,
Speaker 7: we got pro days coming up at Ohio State, Texas, A,
Speaker 7: and M. If your if your coaches are out watching
Speaker 7: these pro days, your position coaches keep an eye on that.
Speaker 7: That's that's a that's a pretty good indicator right there.
Speaker 7: What they're trying to think about with these guys, is.
Speaker 2: There anything kind of standing out from the bread crumbs
Speaker 2: that we've seen so far, Nick on where those guys
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly we can look at last week and throughout
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks. Matti ebra Fluss has been
Speaker 4: super active. He went to three different SEC pro days.
Speaker 4: I know we talked about it on this show a
Speaker 4: little bit, but he went to Tennessee, Georgia, and South
Speaker 4: Carolina and then Oregon.
Speaker 6: Last week was a notable one.
Speaker 4: They had a wide receivers coach Junior Adams, offensive line
Speaker 4: coach Connor Riley, and defensive line coach Aaron Whitecotton kind
Speaker 4: of reading the tea leaves on that Junior Adams I
Speaker 4: think was just going to support his former Oregon guys.
Speaker 4: Obviously he came from that Oregon staff. Then you look
Speaker 4: at the offensive line, I mean you could be looking
Speaker 4: at Josh Connery, you could be looking at Johnny Cornelius
Speaker 4: maybe later in the draft. Defensive line Jordan Birch, I
Speaker 4: know we've talked about him, Derek Harmon, maybe is he
Speaker 4: more in play?
Speaker 6: Jamari Caldwell, So I found that interesting.
Speaker 4: And then David Overstreet, the secondary coach, was at Florida
Speaker 4: State late last week. So as ari A Thomas Central Cyprus.
Speaker 4: So those are a couple of guys that I think
Speaker 4: could potentially work out in favor for the Cowboys, maybe
Speaker 4: on day two or later.
Speaker 6: So this week is going to be the busy week.
Speaker 4: Like Brian mentioned, Ohio State, Texas, A and M you
Speaker 4: also have Texas, you have Old Miss, you have some
Speaker 4: other big ones as well. I'm forgetting off the top
Speaker 4: of my head, but there's going to be a lot
Speaker 4: of coaches out on the road this week. Heard Brian
Speaker 4: Schottenheimer is going to be one of those coaches out
Speaker 4: on the road this week, so keep keep an eye
Speaker 4: on that as well.
Speaker 5: There's some big ones on the way.
Speaker 7: And the big the thing about with the head coach
Speaker 7: being out there too and the fact that he can
Speaker 7: shake hands see these kids maybe if he didn't seem
Speaker 7: at the combine or things like that, you know, you
Speaker 7: bring them in for the visits potentially if you really
Speaker 7: really like the kid. But what it also does is
Speaker 7: we've seen this in the past. We've seen coaches, especially
Speaker 7: the head coach, stand up in the room when the
Speaker 7: when they're on the clock, and we've seen Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 7: we've seen Jason Garrett We've seen guys stand up in
Speaker 7: that room and they ask for their opinion. And the
Speaker 7: more that Brian Schottenheimer knows about these players, and though
Speaker 7: he's able to get a feel for about him, maybe
Speaker 7: he's the guy that's in there, like, you know, breaking
Speaker 7: a tie. You know, if they if you know, they
Speaker 7: have a stack. But if it comes down to maybe
Speaker 7: a way they want to go into position. Maybe they
Speaker 7: have an offensive tackle and they're thinking about defensive tackle,
Speaker 7: but it's close, they can go either way. This is
Speaker 7: where your head coach can come in and say, let's
Speaker 7: take the offensive tackle here. You know, I have a
Speaker 7: feeling I saw the kid, met the kid like the kid.
Speaker 7: You know where that's where the coaches position coaches they're
Speaker 7: going to kind of they're going to give their two cents.
Speaker 5: That head coach.
Speaker 7: We've seen it before, Mike McCarthy, Jason Garrett, those guys
Speaker 7: will break some ties when it comes to players that
Speaker 7: might be pretty similar on their boards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry to interject. These are some of the pro
Speaker 4: days that are this week. I pull up a list
Speaker 4: in front of me, Texas today. That's where our guy
Speaker 4: Tommy Yarsh is heading down to Austin right now, to
Speaker 4: see that one Boise State tomorrow, LSU tomorrow, Ohio State tomorrow.
Speaker 4: You also have Florida on Thursday, Texas A and M
Speaker 4: Notre Dame on Thursday, oll Miss on Friday, Penn State
Speaker 4: on Friday. So there's gonna be a lot going on
Speaker 4: this week and the next week is going to be
Speaker 4: more so the individual pro days for the guys who
Speaker 4: were trying to catch up medically. So you're looking at
Speaker 4: a Jalen Walker, Michael Williams, Will Johnson, Shador Sanders is
Speaker 4: gonna throw next week as well, so the couple couple
Speaker 4: more nickuls.
Speaker 7: Here being an update on what Will Johnson's going to do,
Speaker 7: because we were hearing there's going to be April fourteenth. Yes,
Speaker 7: it was, well you heard more updates on.
Speaker 4: That as of as of what I have in front
Speaker 4: of me, still scheduled for April fourteenth. The question now
Speaker 4: is if he's going to run or not. Some people
Speaker 4: are saying he's going to some people are saying he's not, so.
Speaker 5: He doesn't run.
Speaker 4: I The thing is for me for Will Johnson, what's
Speaker 4: the point of having PROE if you're not running? Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 4: because that's the only question that that's that's left for
Speaker 4: Will Johnson. We you know, you have the film to
Speaker 4: back everything else up. Everyone wants to see post injury.
Speaker 4: So you know, that's why I show up to Will Johnson.
Speaker 4: If if you're not running.
Speaker 9: Well, he's had something, does it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is there something that he could fail to lose or
Speaker 2: stand to lose if he does go out there and
Speaker 2: run and he doesn't run?
Speaker 6: Well, what I'm saying is why you even have a
Speaker 6: pro day?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what I'm just don't do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because then you're saying, hey, I'm healthy, but I'm slow,
Speaker 4: you know. So it's like, it's what are we trying
Speaker 4: to do?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 2: What if you cancel it at this point you already
Speaker 2: had it at April fourteenth, and you say, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna run.
Speaker 5: Does that show confidence in the fact that you are
Speaker 5: okay and you are healthy or is it hide the
Speaker 5: fact that you're good?
Speaker 2: Either way, I think I feel like you're in a
Speaker 2: tough spot one way or the other.
Speaker 4: I mean, we we've talked about Will Johnson this show.
Speaker 4: I think Brian, I just I just asked.
Speaker 7: Question because you're on the pro days. I'm not trying
Speaker 7: to hammer Will Johnson here. I'm just I'm just saying
Speaker 7: if there's anything in the community, I mean, you have
Speaker 7: got a great handle on when these pro days are
Speaker 7: going off and who's working out and stuff. I was
Speaker 7: just asking because, like I say, I wanted to make
Speaker 7: sure that if he did work, you know, I had
Speaker 7: the time. If he doesn't work, I want to put
Speaker 7: him where I'm gonna put him. Yeah, if he if
Speaker 7: I don't get a forty time on him, I'm not
Speaker 7: gonna move the kid. I'm not I'm gonna leave him
Speaker 7: as my fifth best cornerback on that draft board, you know,
Speaker 7: until he shows me that he is able. I wanted
Speaker 7: to see again a time because I want to be
Speaker 7: able to compare him to the other cornerbacks that are
Speaker 7: on that board.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 9: What if he does run, Will, like, how how.
Speaker 7: Much you know what I now I consider? I can
Speaker 7: consider with him and Morse, with Morrison from Notre Dame,
Speaker 7: who's injured, could consider Okay, where where do I have Okay,
Speaker 7: Morrison's hurt is Morson too hurt to where he needs
Speaker 7: to be down in the round or is he or
Speaker 7: does he need to stay where he is. If if
Speaker 7: in fact, this kid Johnson runs runs a time that
Speaker 7: I feel like is good, then now now I have
Speaker 7: consideration for him. Right now I have I have an
Speaker 7: unknown for him because I'm trying to compare him to
Speaker 7: the other guys and I can't compare his speed. I
Speaker 7: could compare what I see on tape. I can't compare.
Speaker 7: And people will tell me, well, Brian, you got GPS numbers.
Speaker 7: No I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm a GPS numbers. I'm not a team. I'm not
Speaker 5: a team.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 7: I don't know what Well one time this guy ran
Speaker 7: twenty three miles an hour on an interception turn.
Speaker 5: I'm not a team that. I'd love to be able
Speaker 5: to get off to top speed. I'd love to be.
Speaker 7: Able to sit there and say, yeah, you know what
Speaker 7: he did, he ran twenty three miles an hour against
Speaker 7: Purdue in a game.
Speaker 5: I'd love to be able to say that, you know,
Speaker 5: but I don't have that.
Speaker 7: What I do have is, though, if I can call
Speaker 7: one of my guys and get a time that that
Speaker 7: I can do, I could get. I can verify times
Speaker 7: I've done it. I've done it all all spring long
Speaker 7: so far, with guys that you know. Okay, good, that's
Speaker 7: what this guy, that's what McMillan really runs. Okay, great,
Speaker 7: what'd you have that?
Speaker 5: Oh? Four or five? Oh what'd you have that? Four?
Speaker 5: Five three? Okay? I know he's somewhere probably around a
Speaker 5: four five one four five two.
Speaker 6: So I know that you do that with yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah again that was a negative.
Speaker 5: But does he does he play for eight three?
Speaker 11: I'm good on that you can have Does he played
Speaker 11: for eight three?
Speaker 5: I mean, seriously, you watch him play. The guy is quick.
Speaker 7: I mean you watch, you watch these games, you watch Louisville,
Speaker 7: you watch Cal you watch I mean the.
Speaker 5: Guys making plays. Yeah, he's four eight three. I guess
Speaker 5: Clickerland fast quicker than four A three and small? Yeah,
Speaker 5: not a great combo. Uh, this is gonna be a
Speaker 5: star in this league. He'll end up being a damn
Speaker 5: good player. Zach.
Speaker 2: When you look at these pro days and the ones
Speaker 2: that are coming up, whether they've already passed or wherever
Speaker 2: they end up, where would you go if you were
Speaker 2: a scout, what would be the best spot for you
Speaker 2: to try and figure out the most about this draft class?
Speaker 5: For the first boys, I got to go see these
Speaker 5: Texas A and M D Line.
Speaker 9: Tommy Yar, I'm going man because.
Speaker 11: Man im out with Shamar Stewart and we've talked about
Speaker 11: it like this dude could be a fifteen SAT guy.
Speaker 11: He could end up being in and out of the
Speaker 11: league in a flash, right. The defensive tackles they got
Speaker 11: there with Turner and then Scorting, you know, I want
Speaker 11: to get up close and personal. I want to see
Speaker 11: these guys, how they move, what makes them tick a
Speaker 11: little bit. I mean, the one thing that we don't
Speaker 11: really have is kind of the character stuff on these guys,
Speaker 11: the compete level. You know, I've heard the Big twelve
Speaker 11: Pro Days, some players came out didn't want to do
Speaker 11: a couple of workouts. Yeah, and there are some things
Speaker 11: that where we're at, we're watching the players and that's
Speaker 11: all we're really going to assess. But there are some
Speaker 11: other things when it comes to off the field character, competitiveness,
Speaker 11: when you get into some of these workouts that stand
Speaker 11: out to you in a certain way. We got to
Speaker 11: see some of that at the Shrine Ball practice. Like
Speaker 11: Kobe Bryant stout in a positive Supposedly he didn't stand
Speaker 11: out in a positive at the Pro days here for
Speaker 11: Big twelve, so you know some of these things. I
Speaker 11: do think you can get an assessment with text A
Speaker 11: and M man that stands out in a big way
Speaker 11: for me. And then I am interested in Penn State
Speaker 11: as well because Kevin Winston Junior is a safety to
Speaker 11: me injured.
Speaker 5: I'd like to go see him up close. How's he
Speaker 5: doing health wise?
Speaker 11: Because the tape for him is really really good, Like
Speaker 11: this safety class in the second round, you can get
Speaker 11: some different difference makers.
Speaker 5: And he's a guy. Man.
Speaker 11: I know it's one year of really really good production
Speaker 11: with him, but if he's healthy, that's a dude that
Speaker 11: I could really fall in love with right there.
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you what.
Speaker 7: I got my ass kicked in the last Sunday, and
Speaker 7: because I was in Austin, my LSU baseball.
Speaker 5: Team went down there and got their ass kicked.
Speaker 7: Sir, I'm going back to Austin because I'm gonna you
Speaker 7: got Golden Banks, ye Blue?
Speaker 5: Who else we got?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got soul, we got Barrett Macouba.
Speaker 9: He had a son of dude, Cuba safety woman.
Speaker 7: Yeah, watch watch me go to Austin and trying trying
Speaker 7: to figure this thing out that that right that I
Speaker 7: just named off a bunch of second round dudes on
Speaker 7: my board, So I'm going to go down there and
Speaker 7: check that out. I mean, I have Blue in the
Speaker 7: third and so well is that you said?
Speaker 5: So well?
Speaker 7: The edge cREL Crell, I have him and the third.
Speaker 7: But man, I've got these these uh these, I got
Speaker 7: second and third round guys that need to kind of
Speaker 7: figure out there. That'd be a great pro day for me.
Speaker 5: Didn't l s you take game one of that? I
Speaker 5: did Texas win the second two? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 9: Good for the longhornset like soccer or something.
Speaker 2: Where would you head you going back to Texas to
Speaker 2: you're riding with Tommy Yards shotgun all the way down?
Speaker 9: I would go, Man, but I'll just tell you over
Speaker 9: the last couple.
Speaker 5: Of days, got Barren by the way, at that Texas
Speaker 5: now said you got it?
Speaker 8: I got it, you know, just going back over my board,
Speaker 8: going back over the film, looking in my round two guys. Man,
Speaker 8: I want to talk to Will Howard. I want to
Speaker 8: talk to Josh Simmons. I want to talk to down
Speaker 8: to the Jackson. I want to talk to Quin, Shawn Jenkins.
Speaker 5: Trayvon Howard, Love coming up now, I'm.
Speaker 8: Watching Will Howard right, and I just can't stop watching trevia.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: So I just got a lot of questions and I
Speaker 8: don't even have questions. I just got regular film due questions, right.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to get to the bottom or anything.
Speaker 8: Just I just I just want to just watch y'all
Speaker 8: run around and have fun. Ohio State got got a
Speaker 8: ton of run around.
Speaker 12: And have fun.
Speaker 5: I just hope everyone has a good time.
Speaker 7: Catch If you guys can meet with one guy, if
Speaker 7: you can meet with one one player this year, just
Speaker 7: go up and you get to go any guy, any guy,
Speaker 7: any school, any school, any guy who do you want
Speaker 7: to go meet and talk to Deon Walker?
Speaker 5: You get an hour to talk to him.
Speaker 8: I've been I've been wanting to talk to Deon Walker
Speaker 8: so bad and it's not going to be a respectful
Speaker 8: conversation being him. Well, I mean because I feel like
Speaker 8: what I have to talk to him about, I wouldn't
Speaker 8: want to tiptoe around what we have to talk about,
Speaker 8: you know, and we might end up ration. We might
Speaker 8: why you loafing off? Yeh while you why did when
Speaker 8: the ball snap? You just stood write up? You ain't
Speaker 8: even step like what like, give me the answers to
Speaker 8: some of this stuff. And honestly, I think coach is
Speaker 8: gonna ask him that. You know what I'm saying, Hey,
Speaker 8: how come sometimes you look like a first round pick,
Speaker 8: a bona fide top fifteen guy. But other times you
Speaker 8: look like why we mad at Maza? You know, I'm
Speaker 8: just so curious to him, and I've just I've said
Speaker 8: it here on this show.
Speaker 9: If you draft this guy, it's probably gonna.
Speaker 8: Be the fourth round or something like that, because people
Speaker 8: got questions, right if he's the positive side of all that, boy,
Speaker 8: would a steal you got? And let's just say, well, Chuck,
Speaker 8: we take Derek Harmon in the second round and we
Speaker 8: look at our fifth round boy and go, hey, man,
Speaker 8: Walker still that and now that's a comboy of dudes
Speaker 8: you got for the next five years. You hit on
Speaker 8: that dude. Now you could miss on that dude. You
Speaker 8: could miss on that dude, And now you run into
Speaker 8: a David Irvis situation. He may not get drafted at
Speaker 8: all because the questions, you know what I mean, We
Speaker 8: may be sitting at this table, maybe not me, but
Speaker 8: we sit at this table on day three and y'all
Speaker 8: looking at me. In round seven, Vitch. Who's you got, hey,
Speaker 8: Deane Walkers just right there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: For whatever reason he may falls, some coaches may just
Speaker 8: have him off his board. Brian's been teaching me that
Speaker 8: sometimes these guys just not gonna have you on your
Speaker 8: board for whatever reason. So if he's there and you hit,
Speaker 8: I get a raise. Yeah, I get a raise if
Speaker 8: I hit on this guy. And if you miss on him,
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean what I mean, what happens? I
Speaker 8: just want to talk.
Speaker 2: He's probably one of the three most polarizing names that
Speaker 2: the Draft Show has talked about.
Speaker 5: And and and Walter Nolan. Those are the three. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I was kind of.
Speaker 7: Shocked those A and M kids have all they started
Speaker 7: out being really polarizing on our boards. And yeah, but
Speaker 7: Will Johnson's become polarizing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's I wanted to talk to.
Speaker 7: I want to talk to Luther Burton, a little wide receiver,
Speaker 7: because all of a sudden, I mean, I have him
Speaker 7: the first round grade on him, but the whispers are
Speaker 7: getting louder and louder and louder.
Speaker 11: Well, his coach, Eli drink Witz put out a pleasant
Speaker 11: servist announcement. Eli drink Witz he he went to uh
Speaker 11: certainly fought for him on k Adams Show yesterday.
Speaker 5: It was good.
Speaker 7: See so he made him a ringing endorsement. He must
Speaker 7: trying to fight for his kids. He must be hearing that.
Speaker 7: And I wonder why.
Speaker 4: I wonder why I covered Luther Burton and his recruitment.
Speaker 4: Got to know his his high school coach really well,
Speaker 4: got to know his recruitment really well. You could nine
Speaker 4: times out of ten tell if a kid was going
Speaker 4: to be a headache during his recruitment.
Speaker 6: I'd never got that since we Luke that's good.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 4: That was three years ago, so you know, things could
Speaker 4: have happened. And he was obviously an in state legend,
Speaker 4: went to Missouri and stayed in state and played well.
Speaker 4: The guy for me would be James Pearce out of Tennessee.
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: That would be the one that I'd want to sit
Speaker 4: down and talk to and read him a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean, a hell of a player, and I think
Speaker 4: if you factored everything off the field away, I think
Speaker 4: he would be easily in contention for Edge one. But
Speaker 4: he's not in contenent for Edge one for me as
Speaker 4: a result, just because of all the whispers and things
Speaker 4: going back to high school, as far as you know,
Speaker 4: him being a problem in the locker room, him being
Speaker 4: a problem off the field, distraction at times. So I'd
Speaker 4: want to sit down with James Pierce and get to
Speaker 4: know him a little bit.
Speaker 5: Could he be a guy in slides?
Speaker 9: Potentially?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, potentially, one hundred percent. I mean I think
Speaker 4: he's already slid That's what I'm saying, Like, he's got
Speaker 4: a situation. Film might not be a first round pick,
Speaker 4: but he may slip out of the first round. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I think in our mock last week we took him
Speaker 4: at nineteen. But I could certainly see him slipping out
Speaker 4: of the first round unless the team does meet with
Speaker 4: him and is like, you know what, we'll take a
Speaker 4: gamble on that will be okay with that and swings
Speaker 4: on it in the first round. That's certainly an interesting
Speaker 4: swing to take in the first round. But that would
Speaker 4: be one we would talk about on night one and
Speaker 4: be like, look, this has great upside, but it could
Speaker 4: also be a disaster.
Speaker 5: Is Mike Green this way?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Not as bad as peers, not
Speaker 4: as bad as peers. And there are questions about Mike.
Speaker 11: Green Green Marshall by the way, Yeah, I think he
Speaker 11: did a good job to combine. Yeah, and like a
Speaker 11: lot of people got their questions answered there, and he
Speaker 11: had a great pro day yesterday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And we talked to Mike Green and Mobile shows.
Speaker 5: It seemed awesome. I love the interview you guys had
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 6: Now, granted you can't you can't read a person on
Speaker 6: a ten minute interview.
Speaker 5: On the cap show, but I think that's all you need.
Speaker 4: And to be to be honest, you can't do it
Speaker 4: in a thirty twelve. You can't do it in a
Speaker 4: thirty visit, and you can't do it in a formal
Speaker 4: meeting either. You know, sometimes guys they put on a
Speaker 4: show and then they show up and they're a completely
Speaker 4: different person. I feel like it's happened here a couple
Speaker 4: of times, and so you would have to you would
Speaker 4: have to look at James Pierce, and you would have
Speaker 4: to look at James Pierce and do a lot of homework.
Speaker 4: But I will say this building arguably does more homework
Speaker 4: on guys than any than any team in the NFL.
Speaker 4: I have resources dedicated to figure out out these guys
Speaker 4: everything about them.
Speaker 7: Never send au the private investigator follow a player for
Speaker 7: a week.
Speaker 5: I've done that.
Speaker 7: Have they ever sent a private investigator to follow a
Speaker 7: player for.
Speaker 4: I'll say this there there were a lot of people
Speaker 4: in Left Texas right before does Bryant got Guy?
Speaker 5: I agree that Larry Wantsley's really good at his job.
Speaker 5: I did, I had. I had Trade Thomas followed for
Speaker 5: a week at Florida State. That's funny.
Speaker 11: The Justin Blackman stories I've heard those are pretty legendary
Speaker 11: and still good stuff.
Speaker 2: Good stuff always fun here in the backside of of
Speaker 2: really what this all happened?
Speaker 5: To spend millions of dollars in these players, as we'll
Speaker 5: get to know them a little bit, to find out
Speaker 5: where they're headed and what they're doing where they're going.
Speaker 8: Honestly, man, as long as you're not like Robin Banks
Speaker 8: and hitting people and you know, you know you got
Speaker 8: weaponry on you all the time, so you.
Speaker 5: Got to make sure that none of that's the case.
Speaker 5: Like you do a show with me and you'd always
Speaker 5: pull out weaponry on me. What are you talking about there?
Speaker 8: I am a civilian, sir, and I am a license Look, man,
Speaker 8: a long as you ain't look just a little bit
Speaker 8: of dee and never heard nobody, man. And honestly, it's
Speaker 8: it's it's like wide receivers are that like running backs?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 8: These these guys are they you know linemen are the
Speaker 8: the humblers smarter? You know, we chill, we kicking it.
Speaker 8: Those guys could be dva sometimes.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 8: So if if the player matches up, and I would
Speaker 8: love to know, Brian, what's your good?
Speaker 5: Oh whing me into this because.
Speaker 8: You've done this before. I'm just Seville and I just
Speaker 8: I work on what he got. You have won a
Speaker 8: Super Bowl? What's the the ratio of good player versus headache?
Speaker 9: Do you guys?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you'll you'll you'll you'll put up it
Speaker 5: a lot. Yeah yeah, you'll put up it a lot.
Speaker 5: You really will.
Speaker 7: I mean you you know, uh, I'll never forget real quick.
Speaker 7: Derek Alexander wide receiver, Michigan and he was this is
Speaker 7: w It's a ninety in the Drift ninety five draft.
Speaker 7: I want to say John Gruden was the receivers coach
Speaker 7: of the Packers, and the Scouts kept talking about Derek
Speaker 7: Alexander drinking problem, drinking problem, drinking problem, drinking problem, and
Speaker 7: they went around the room to the coaches, and they
Speaker 7: asked him to say, John, what.
Speaker 5: Player do you really like?
Speaker 7: He goes, I love that Derek Alexander kid. But every
Speaker 7: one of these guys.
Speaker 5: Says he has a drinking problem. He did that exact voice. Okay,
Speaker 5: just lick him because yeah, everyone of you he's getting it.
Speaker 7: Drinking problem. This is a damn good football but you know,
Speaker 7: and and went into it. So, yeah, you have your
Speaker 7: discussions about that about players and stuff like that. It's
Speaker 7: actually it's a pretty eye opening, uh to to to
Speaker 7: to go through and to hear about a player's background
Speaker 7: and then meet with the player and then kind of
Speaker 7: learn a little bit more about it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Model Pregame, l Come On Home and Luther Bird.
Speaker 4: The thing to think about quote unquote character concerns is
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot that falls under that umbrella. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think, especially when we talk about it on the show.
Speaker 4: I mean, it could be something as far as it
Speaker 4: could be anything from legal, It could be anything from
Speaker 4: he doesn't apply a lot of effort on the field.
Speaker 4: You know, there's various things. For me personally, I would
Speaker 4: deal with a lot. There was only one guy I
Speaker 4: can think of last year that I would think, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't draft him because of what I know off
Speaker 4: the field, and that was a h Leonard Floyd from
Speaker 4: or excuse me, Leonard Taylor from Floyd was a pretty
Speaker 4: good well Leonard Taylor. Leonard Taylor. Yeah, he ended up
Speaker 4: going on drafted. And so that was the only one
Speaker 4: last year that I had major concerns about. The only
Speaker 4: one I have major concerns about this year is James Spears.
Speaker 4: So other than that, like give me, give me the
Speaker 4: headache of the Jalen rights, where like apparently he doesn't
Speaker 4: apply himself in practice from last year.
Speaker 6: Give me that, I'll I'll figure that out.
Speaker 5: Now. Putting you on the spot, would you take James
Speaker 5: Pierce off your board?
Speaker 4: See, that's why I would want to talk based off
Speaker 4: of what I based off of what you know right now.
Speaker 4: I mean I have seven edges above him because of
Speaker 4: that issue. And it gets to a point where like, okay,
Speaker 4: if he's on the board, I'm going to take him here. Okay,
Speaker 4: more like somehow he slipped to say three No, no, no,
Speaker 4: it's more more so if he slipped, like.
Speaker 7: Question not what he's done, but is it is it
Speaker 7: really terminal? What your I mean what you know about
Speaker 7: this Uh? Is it the point where like we're like,
Speaker 7: if you have a second round grade on him and
Speaker 7: he's your stack like it player player forty three, is
Speaker 7: that is that a bad, bad risk?
Speaker 4: Yeah, if he's the best player on your board at
Speaker 4: forty four, I mean, he's a talent you would have
Speaker 4: to take. And I wouldn't argue in the room, but
Speaker 4: I'd be like, hey, I just want you to know
Speaker 4: that if you're expecting this guy to be here long term,
Speaker 4: you need to plan for the fact that he might
Speaker 4: not be.
Speaker 6: So you need to get an edge. You need to
Speaker 6: get an edge to back him up.
Speaker 9: That's that's what.
Speaker 7: So Okay, so when he when he all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: we're like and and Kyle goes, well, who's the best
Speaker 7: player on your board, It'll be it's Piers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Piers. It's Piers. So we'll know why then, right, Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I would say he's got me ques.
Speaker 4: I would say the question we had about Michael Parsons
Speaker 4: going into that draft class, Yeah, along those same lines,
Speaker 4: but I think a little bit more to a severe degree.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Okay, yeah, here we go. Good to know.
Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, I'd let somebody else, Yeah, let somebody
Speaker 11: else be a hero.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of good edges.
Speaker 12: Good.
Speaker 5: I'd rather gamble so somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's going to be the question for the
Speaker 2: Cowboys that pick number forty four or seventy six or
Speaker 2: whatever it ends up being good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all all. Right.
Speaker 2: When we come back here on the Draft shows, time
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Speaker 9: So you're saying, I just can't walk out of the door,
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Speaker 8: Twitter on the twenty cour No, no, but you're on
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Speaker 9: I was looking at Chat. I was looking at it.
Speaker 8: I was looking at Chat watch up and you know,
Speaker 8: we was talking about the off the field stuff. What
Speaker 8: are we going to do about Lacey A movie.
Speaker 7: I talked to my gang of seven guys that nobody's
Speaker 7: got him on their board.
Speaker 4: He's going to be It sounds like he's going to
Speaker 4: be in a tough situation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. I don't let the legal process
Speaker 6: play out.
Speaker 11: But they're such a shame because he I mean, he
Speaker 11: could have been right in line with the next LSU
Speaker 11: stud receivers.
Speaker 5: He really could.
Speaker 7: But the gang of seven guys all said that nobody's
Speaker 7: got him on their board.
Speaker 4: Basically, for those that don't know, he was involved in
Speaker 4: a situation, uh right after the season ended. He was
Speaker 4: speeding on a two lane road, was trying to pass
Speaker 4: a car or like around on the left side. There
Speaker 4: was a car coming head on. He swerved the car
Speaker 4: that was coming head on. It hit the guy that
Speaker 4: was behind him and killed the guy behind him, And
Speaker 4: so and then Kyraen Lacey left the scene, so he
Speaker 4: was arrested a few weeks later. Actually, it took him
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks to identify and then find Kyraen Lacey.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's he's in a heap of trouble.
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Speaker 2: This one is, of course, surrounding the recent news after
Speaker 2: our last show on Tuesday that Cooper Rush is no
Speaker 2: longer the quarterback backup quarterback.
Speaker 5: Here in Dallas.
Speaker 2: Joe wants to know what's the earliest you would take
Speaker 2: a quarterback in this draft class?
Speaker 5: How early would you be willing to do so?
Speaker 6: To back up that pren can I throw a cave
Speaker 6: out before we start talking?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's say you acquire another third pick, a third
Speaker 4: round pick.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, watching watch about to do here? Go ahead, please, I.
Speaker 4: Just wanted to throw that caveato. I just want to
Speaker 4: see you acquire another third. You acquired another third. I'm phony,
Speaker 4: so I'm taking that third, and I'm drafting. Somebody's gonna help.
Speaker 5: Me right now.
Speaker 9: It's tough.
Speaker 8: I respect that Will Howard can play. Will Howard can play. Yeah, Man,
Speaker 8: Sometimes in the magazine, I ain't reading this because y'all
Speaker 8: just said, man, look sometimes sometimes sometimes when you watch
Speaker 8: them quarterbacks in passing, just in the regular season, you
Speaker 8: kind of put him in an archetype a little bit, right, Oh,
Speaker 8: Will how was gonna be one of them cast that
Speaker 8: just throw, you know, Joe keep it on the data die.
Speaker 8: But man, I started watching it and I watched playoffs
Speaker 8: Oregon twice, Michigan, right, yeah, Oh my goodness, Oh he can.
Speaker 8: I watched five six games, all right, all right, because
Speaker 8: he was better than that fought and I'm like, man,
Speaker 8: he's not just checking down like he's pushing the ball
Speaker 8: down the field. And this is after me watching Ward
Speaker 8: and Sanders and Milrow. I'm like, y'all got the easy
Speaker 8: little offense going on over here. Will Howard doing stuff
Speaker 8: down the field a little bit. Now, he doesn't have
Speaker 8: the arm that Ward has, But I'm just watching him
Speaker 8: and he's dealing it out and he's making his reason.
Speaker 8: He's showing toughness and I didn't know he was two
Speaker 8: thirty for real. He's running people over with you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying with his designed runs, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 8: Will Howard, you get down better than I thought it was.
Speaker 8: And me and Brian had this conversation. I know it
Speaker 8: sounds a little weird to say, well, would you take
Speaker 8: him in the first round? I like Will Howard more
Speaker 8: than I like bow Knicks Last year JJ McCarthy last year,
Speaker 8: I like Howard's film more than them, and those guys
Speaker 8: ended up being first round guys in a much better draft.
Speaker 8: So in this worst draft, and look, the league don't
Speaker 8: have to listen to me. I'm just a dude with
Speaker 8: a camera, microphone. I don't even work here. I'm looking
Speaker 8: at this guy I wouldn't do in the first round.
Speaker 8: But if he's better than bow Knicks, why the hell not?
Speaker 8: I like this kid. This kid got some good ass film.
Speaker 8: Like I said, he got some good film, and he's
Speaker 8: done it first the best competition in the world. To
Speaker 8: be fair with him, boy, he got a bunch of
Speaker 8: wire receivers on a bunch offensive linemen and all running
Speaker 8: backs that made real health. Right, But how I see
Speaker 8: that is when he gets to the league, get him
Speaker 8: some damn running backs, wire receivers, an offensive line, and
Speaker 8: see if you can remake that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if only it were that easy, right? How much?
Speaker 5: How much was he helped by Chip Kelly coordinator?
Speaker 11: How much was he helped by arguably the best receiver
Speaker 11: in college football? And Jeremiah Smith another first round pick
Speaker 11: in Igbuca. Two running backs they're gonna go on Day
Speaker 11: one and two. There was a lot of talent war
Speaker 11: around Will Howard, so.
Speaker 5: He didn't f it up.
Speaker 11: Well, I mean there were times to Michigan's the only
Speaker 11: time he fed it up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean the Michigan game is rough. He
Speaker 5: threw it. He had a pick in his own.
Speaker 9: That's a rivalry game. They don't count any time.
Speaker 5: Right, but he.
Speaker 7: Had a tremendous But I want to play the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 7: so it definitely.
Speaker 8: I was just gonna say that, do what the Eagles
Speaker 8: doing with Hurts, make it relatively simple, get all the
Speaker 8: help in the world you can get, and it's gonna
Speaker 8: take a hell of a GM to do.
Speaker 5: So what round would you take? Well, Howard.
Speaker 9: Then I got him in the thing, but quarterback tex second.
Speaker 5: Second and hey, I can see that.
Speaker 8: But he better than bone Nicks and me, so take him,
Speaker 8: take him at third. I was wrong on Bo, Nicks
Speaker 8: went great, You went wrong. Shan Sean Payne's fantastic.
Speaker 11: Bonnicks fan is now Nick and I were riding the
Speaker 11: Bnicks hate train.
Speaker 5: I was sorry, Bo, that seemed like a sweetheart might
Speaker 5: have been driving the train.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: Hey, look I and I gave Bonicks credit on like
Speaker 4: the second show of the of the season. The show
Speaker 4: was like, look, he proved me wrong. You know what's
Speaker 4: funny about Will Howard. When I was watching this film,
Speaker 4: you talked about the design runs, you talked about kind
Speaker 4: of getting out of the pocket a little bit. He
Speaker 4: reminds me of what Dak was when he was coming
Speaker 4: on a Missippi Stid. It's very similar. You look at the
Speaker 4: size at two thirty five. He's a little bit taller
Speaker 4: than Dak is, obviously, but he could push the ball downfield.
Speaker 4: He can get out and run, especially if you look
Speaker 4: back at his Kansas State tape. They did a lot
Speaker 4: more with him on design runs.
Speaker 5: He ran a lot of k State.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they had they had a couple of speed
Speaker 4: weapons to his to his usage as well. That was
Speaker 4: really able to help that backfield. There were times in
Speaker 4: Kansas State where like his decisive dislicked a little bit.
Speaker 4: But I think that chip Kell system and learning under
Speaker 4: Tip Kelly really benefited him last year.
Speaker 5: You're all got out a lot faster.
Speaker 4: You're gonna see that translates to the NFL for sure.
Speaker 4: Did you like him more than Kyle McCord.
Speaker 9: I haven't watched him.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Me and Brian wading all the way to the
Speaker 8: last minute to watch all those guys this week. So
Speaker 8: our first four guys was Ward, Sanders, Milroe, and Howard,
Speaker 8: and man, I was just man it shout out the
Speaker 8: beam in them.
Speaker 5: He's got Will Howard Kansas State film up currently.
Speaker 8: But we haven't gotten there. So by the end of
Speaker 8: the week. You're gonna ask me Monday. But I was
Speaker 8: just blown away because I wasn't ready to be a
Speaker 8: Will Howard fan. I was ready to just on Will Howard.
Speaker 9: Boy.
Speaker 8: He's a dude, and I would consider him if the
Speaker 8: you know, if the you know situation.
Speaker 7: When you said the extra third round pick, you know,
Speaker 7: I mean that makes a lot of sense to this guy.
Speaker 5: If you if you.
Speaker 7: Really want to get a legitimate backup guy, now you
Speaker 7: lose the fifth year option on him, right you know,
Speaker 7: you got him for four years, but it kind of
Speaker 7: coincides with what your quarterback is doing right now, you know,
Speaker 7: and you can kind of keep that in place, and
Speaker 7: if Will Howard all sudden turns into something after four years,
Speaker 7: you could go ahead and sign him, you know, knowing
Speaker 7: that maybe you're gonna do something with your guy. I
Speaker 7: agree with the ash I I I went into thinking
Speaker 7: that Will Howard. I was thinking Will Howard Kansas State,
Speaker 7: kind of a Blacksmith quarterback, just kind of good work ethic,
Speaker 7: nothing really spectacular. You watch this, you watch the Michigan
Speaker 7: game was and by the way, there's two there's two
Speaker 7: guys that I've seen so far, Milroe and Will Howard
Speaker 7: that had trouble with Michigan. That's a pro defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5: There at Mirandalee Wink Martindale.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you go back and watch Milroe play against Michigan
Speaker 7: in that in that Bowl game, Wink Martindale did some
Speaker 7: things to him. And then and then you look at
Speaker 7: Will Howard, you know, did some things to him. So
Speaker 7: you know, but I I was expecting kind of. But
Speaker 7: you watch all the playoff games, you watch some of
Speaker 7: the early season stuff with Will Howard, man was dealing.
Speaker 7: I mean he he Yeah, He's got great weapons, the receivers,
Speaker 7: the running game, the line and all that. Man, you
Speaker 7: gotta go out there, take the snap and deliver and execute.
Speaker 7: Guy does a great job of executing. So a third
Speaker 7: round pick, I wouldn't be surprised to some of these
Speaker 7: other quarterbacks, him, Jackson Dart, those guys probably go to
Speaker 7: a lot higher than what we what we thought initially.
Speaker 11: I wouldn't go QB till fifth round. Personally, the Cowboys
Speaker 11: need to be getting starters here on days one and two.
Speaker 11: And to me, you just your quarterback.
Speaker 5: Is he is what he is, He's here. Now you've
Speaker 5: got your guy.
Speaker 11: So if they fall in love with one of these guys,
Speaker 11: let's say, hey, I do love Will Howard.
Speaker 5: I love a Comic Cord.
Speaker 11: I'm glad you brought up Comic Cord because that's the
Speaker 11: guy for me that I loved what he did battling adversity.
Speaker 11: He was the scapegoat at Ohio State. We couldn't beat Michigan,
Speaker 11: and it was your fault. Well, they still couldn't beat
Speaker 11: Michigan this year. And what did he do? He went
Speaker 11: to Syracuse, won nine games, helped that program really turn
Speaker 11: themselves around.
Speaker 2: I have one of the greatest statistical seasons in college
Speaker 2: football history, and.
Speaker 11: That dude can make every throw and he's got some touch,
Speaker 11: I like the deep ball accuracy, maybe the arm. I mean,
Speaker 11: nobody's got a stronger arm than Jalen Milrow. Like Milroe
Speaker 11: could be the most boomer Bus quarterback in this draft.
Speaker 7: Watching watch him against Georgia and then watch him against
Speaker 7: Michigan and the first half specifically against Georgia was absolutely dominant.
Speaker 11: I mean he's got like Malachi Starts, oh yes, and
Speaker 11: what he can do in the running game, like that's
Speaker 11: going to translate. You could use him specially in certain packages,
Speaker 11: but as a thrower if he could figure out how
Speaker 11: to get his accuracy improved, much like we saw Josh
Speaker 11: Allen do look out like Jalen Milroe's got m VP
Speaker 11: like talent.
Speaker 5: Jalen Milroe isn't throwing to cattle ranchers, No, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, I mean that's he is throwing to what seventeen
Speaker 2: year old Ryan Williams.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 6: Other than Ryan Williams. They kind of got some cattle
Speaker 6: ranchers ever seen.
Speaker 5: But I like McCord. I mean mcort is definitely wanted
Speaker 5: to take the third.
Speaker 6: McCord yes for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got McCord in the third. So where would
Speaker 5: you take him, Zach? I mean, where would you take
Speaker 5: him for the Cowboys?
Speaker 11: Well, I'm not taking a guy for the fifth, so
Speaker 11: he's probably not gonna be in play for the Cowboy.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Quinnario.
Speaker 11: I'm looking at queer viewers a round five for the Cowboys,
Speaker 11: the fifth Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. I'm not high on Quinn to some other.
Speaker 2: Same kind of thing though, if you're going to spend
Speaker 2: one of your first three round picks, if you're trying
Speaker 2: to get a bona fide backup, like Brian was talking about,
Speaker 2: you're going to have to do so earlier than the
Speaker 2: fifth round. If you're getting a guy that's going to,
Speaker 2: no doubt be your backup, be your QB two, you're
Speaker 2: going to have to do it in the first, second,
Speaker 2: third round, maybe the fourth round.
Speaker 5: But you got to get back up there in order
Speaker 5: to do it.
Speaker 7: Well, they showed you they're willing to go picking up
Speaker 7: or to give at a quarter get.
Speaker 2: A backup, so you can maybe package some of those picks,
Speaker 2: get back up, get a third, or get a fourth.
Speaker 2: If you're able to do that, I'm in on taking
Speaker 2: a quarterback in those picks.
Speaker 5: But if you're not going to do that, I'm with Zach.
Speaker 5: I'm going fifth starters up front.
Speaker 4: But the thing I want to first propose if I
Speaker 4: could watch, please, Zach, you have brought it up as like, hey,
Speaker 4: in the first two days, I want to get starters.
Speaker 6: You guys that can start. Sure, you have a quarterback
Speaker 6: that has missed a significant amount of time as you're
Speaker 6: doing four or five seasons.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're in a situation where this team
Speaker 4: is ten and three, right and Dak goes down with
Speaker 4: a season ending injury, you need to have anybody you
Speaker 4: have a fifth round rookie, you're going to be You're
Speaker 4: gonna be.
Speaker 11: Up a pool shory that twenty first pick. Yeah, you
Speaker 11: would be, or you could be three and five. Dak
Speaker 11: goes down and then you've got a quarterback that overperforms,
Speaker 11: and now you're sitting where I'd love to be getting
Speaker 11: an Abdul Carter. But now we're talking about the options
Speaker 11: at twelve, right, I'd rather just go ahead and be
Speaker 11: in full tank mode and I'm talking about the arch
Speaker 11: mannings or who are the best quarterbacks on the board
Speaker 11: than what we're doing here arguing about Will Howard and
Speaker 11: the third. Personally, I'd rather just stink. If I'm gonna stink,
Speaker 11: I'd rather just stink.
Speaker 4: So you're trying to hold out for one year, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and hope that Dak can get seventeen ycause.
Speaker 11: The likelihood of one of these and look, hey, Dak's
Speaker 11: proven it's possible, it's possible. But the likelihood of these
Speaker 11: rookie quarterbacks sliding in there and you're feeling good about
Speaker 11: a ten and three team, I mean, it could end
Speaker 11: up being deer in the headlights.
Speaker 5: This thing doesn't go well anyway.
Speaker 11: So hey, they've done more homework on these quarterbacks and
Speaker 11: no kind of the makeup of them. And look, assessing
Speaker 11: these guys is very very hard. Specifically in that position.
Speaker 11: They'd know if they have a guy like that with Dak.
Speaker 11: But then again, i mean, how many other quarterbacks were
Speaker 11: talked about prior to Dak in that and it kind
Speaker 11: of worked out fell into your lap. Yeah, maybe that happens,
Speaker 11: but I'm not really looking to attack that until day three. Personally,
Speaker 11: I don't think this team's giving them the luxury to
Speaker 11: be able to do that any earlier.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Kind of along the same lines, but in a completely
Speaker 2: different position group.
Speaker 5: Matthew wants to ask.
Speaker 2: At pick seventy six, Let's say you addressed wide receiver
Speaker 2: in round one and defensive line in round two, what
Speaker 2: is the next position of need that you have to
Speaker 2: fill in that third round pick. If you don't get
Speaker 2: another pick to try and help you on day two,
Speaker 2: all it once ready?
Speaker 6: Corner?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like that's the problem. Like you would love to
Speaker 8: have corner. You would love to have a one take
Speaker 8: in there. You would like to think about Guardess, you
Speaker 8: just got too many holes, which is why quarterback really
Speaker 8: won't work out for you. Like, you just got so
Speaker 8: many needs and you don't have the premium picks to
Speaker 8: fully address that. And that's why we were hoping free agency.
Speaker 8: Let's get a little busy with free agency because we
Speaker 8: ain't got the picks to fill all this up. I
Speaker 8: think they're going to walk into the draft and try
Speaker 8: to fill all this up with those with those picks
Speaker 8: and it's not gonna work out.
Speaker 5: Where would you go? Who'd you pick a question? Yeah,
Speaker 5: the corner would be. But who did you pick in
Speaker 5: the first who.
Speaker 2: Did the wide receiver and defensive line and guy running back? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so running back would be one.
Speaker 7: To this point, all we've done is talk about how
Speaker 7: much better we're going to run the ball. I don't
Speaker 7: know if you've necessarily other than hiring coaches have kind
Speaker 7: of gone done, gone that way. So to me, yeah,
Speaker 7: I have I have a stack of running backs in
Speaker 7: the third round that i'd absolutely love. I have some
Speaker 7: guys in the fifth round i'd absolutely love.
Speaker 8: To take care he you love your fourth fifth round guys.
Speaker 7: I don't think it's a bad list. I think from
Speaker 7: top to bottom it's a it's a damn good group.
Speaker 7: But I've got some guys in the third round that
Speaker 7: are like, just keep handing them the ball and you're
Speaker 7: gonna have some success. If you pair one of these
Speaker 7: guys with say Williams, you know, is his ability to
Speaker 7: catch and block, you can do all right? I would
Speaker 7: address it cornerback or running back in the third round
Speaker 7: for me, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Neither one of those. You'll you'll get a guy whoever's
Speaker 5: higher on your board.
Speaker 7: I might even get my nickel there. I might even
Speaker 7: get my my nickel corn Parish.
Speaker 11: That would be a good one, Zach, you have any preference, yeah,
Speaker 11: corner and running back I think would definitely be the
Speaker 11: route that you need to go in that scenario, I
Speaker 11: would go running back.
Speaker 5: I don't want to leave day three without a runner personally.
Speaker 2: Okay, Brandon wants to know if you're looking to trade
Speaker 2: back in the first round. What's the furthest you're willing
Speaker 2: to trade back? How far are you willing to pull
Speaker 2: the parachute and get out if you are going to
Speaker 2: trade back and pick up some selections.
Speaker 9: I hate trade bad question. That's how the brand. I
Speaker 9: hate you. Of course we want more picks.
Speaker 8: Of course we would love to have far we go
Speaker 8: all the way back to get a two and of three,
Speaker 8: of course we would, man, But sure, Brandon, I would
Speaker 8: go all the way back to thirty two and get
Speaker 8: two seconds in the third if if they'll let me.
Speaker 9: But mostly it.
Speaker 8: Depends on who's on the board right So I'm not
Speaker 8: moving on from McMillan, Jay, Tanko and Ted shouldn't be
Speaker 8: there neither. But like if it's like Jala Walk on
Speaker 8: the board, Mikeel on the board. It's all Mike Green
Speaker 8: on the boat. I like Mike Green one of the
Speaker 8: corners up there. Sure if the player, if your best
Speaker 8: player on the board is close to your twenty fifth player,
Speaker 8: I'll go to twenty five. If he's close to your
Speaker 8: thy second player, I'll go back to thirty two. Just
Speaker 8: give me all the picks and I'll just go crazy
Speaker 8: on day on day two and we'll just run like that.
Speaker 5: Jeff and I yesterday Kavanaugh.
Speaker 7: I went all the way back to green Bay at
Speaker 7: twenty three is how far we went. And we traded twice, Jeff.
Speaker 7: You know, Jeff loves to trade, so we traded twice.
Speaker 7: We went, well, they'll give you some offers Seattle eighteen
Speaker 7: and then green Bay at twenty three.
Speaker 5: Just kept moving back.
Speaker 11: So I don't think, yeah, I mean twenty five with Houston. Yeah,
Speaker 11: maybe that's kind of a range. Like I'd like to
Speaker 11: stay in the top twenty five if I could, But
Speaker 11: I get it really just depends on like how is
Speaker 11: the draft falling, So it might have to be in
Speaker 11: the minute, like what are the players still there? But
Speaker 11: if I go to twenty five, I still end up
Speaker 11: with a d tackle that I like maybe, or a
Speaker 11: corner that you like that you got some risk on,
Speaker 11: like ooh and one of these guys slide to me, Yeah,
Speaker 11: that might be fun.
Speaker 8: Something I want people to think about is what are
Speaker 8: these teams trading up for?
Speaker 11: That's what I don't think you're gonna have a ton
Speaker 11: of options to try.
Speaker 5: That's what I always say.
Speaker 7: I always say, listen, it's easy to drop out of there. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and if you want to just get screwed on your
Speaker 7: on your compensation, sure bail on out of there and
Speaker 7: you could be happy that.
Speaker 5: Well I didn't.
Speaker 7: I should have got a three and only I got
Speaker 7: I mean I should have got two and only got
Speaker 7: a three because I bailed eighteen spots.
Speaker 5: Think about that, What are they paying for?
Speaker 7: Ye If you're if you're, if you're, if you're one
Speaker 7: of those guys and gals that wants to just trade
Speaker 7: to trade, fine, somebody will do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh by the way, hey, if you want to drop
Speaker 7: ten spots, we'll give you a five.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, wa fourth back. Let's go let me ask
Speaker 5: you a question here real quick. We got the twelfth pick
Speaker 5: for the Dallas cowboys. When do you feel it? What pick?
Speaker 5: Do you feel you're gonna lose your last first round
Speaker 5: guy on your board? Probably maybe fifteen? Yeah, right around there.
Speaker 7: Okay, So if we're going to bail on out of there,
Speaker 7: we're not going to pick a first round guy on
Speaker 7: our board.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna pick a you're going and that's fine.
Speaker 7: If you if you if you're in love with your
Speaker 7: second round guys, you know, if you if you're if
Speaker 7: you're totally okay with that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: The whole idea is to try and kind of take
Speaker 7: the best players. This is the goes along. So if
Speaker 7: you've got fifteen guys on your board, you kind of
Speaker 7: want to try and pick.
Speaker 5: In that group if you can.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And some of the guys, if you guys are
Speaker 7: telling me that by the time I get to Seattle
Speaker 7: at eighteen, that on my board's wiped out.
Speaker 8: Honestly, Brian, in real life, that may be like twelve
Speaker 8: or thirteen for you, because some of our first round
Speaker 8: guys are hurt.
Speaker 5: Guys, character guys exactly.
Speaker 8: So we may only have thirteen true first round guys.
Speaker 5: In revealed those kind of guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, So if we're looking at eighteen, just based off
Speaker 2: of ar Mock the other day, the Cowboys would have
Speaker 2: had Booker there, James Pierce, Luthor Burden, Jackson Dart, Will Campbell,
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon.
Speaker 5: But if you go back to twenty next, yeared me
Speaker 5: the hell off of Pierce for sure.
Speaker 8: Piers, Yeah, oh, what's up about when you talk about
Speaker 8: I shouldn't asked about when you talk about boy?
Speaker 2: And going back to twenty five, that list gets a
Speaker 2: little bit smaller. It's guys like Golden and Revel and
Speaker 2: Malachi Starks as a roku from Boston College, Lamar Stewart
Speaker 2: still have some names. Yeah, but their early second round.
Speaker 8: Name they are just like the dudes that are going
Speaker 8: to go thirty two and maybe forty or something.
Speaker 7: We Zach Raby plus did are asked to try and
Speaker 7: come up with fifteen names in the first round.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we want to go away from.
Speaker 2: That, sure, Okay, Yeah, Dallas Day is coming up in
Speaker 2: a couple of a couple of days. And I know, Nick,
Speaker 2: you've been all over the Dallas Day list. Who are
Speaker 2: some of the guys that are most likely to get drafted?
Speaker 2: This comes from Kevin.
Speaker 4: Okay, forty fifty, so I'm sorry, I'm counting nineteen guys
Speaker 4: that I have draftable grades on nice that are eligible
Speaker 4: for Dallas Day.
Speaker 6: I'll run through them really quick. Day one.
Speaker 4: These are just guys that are eligible, Like Shador Sanders
Speaker 4: is eligible, He's not coming here. Shador Sanders, Ashton Jenz
Speaker 4: Ashton Gentz will be here, Quinn Yours will be here,
Speaker 4: Ollie Gordon the second from Oklahoma State will be here,
Speaker 4: Damian Martinez from Miami will be here. Elijah Royo, Cameron Williams,
Speaker 4: Caleb Rodgers from Texas Tech from our turner. Day three
Speaker 4: guys Jake Major's out of Texas, Jabar Mohammed out of Oregon,
Speaker 4: Billy Bowman junior out of Oklahoma, Chase Lunt out of Connecticut,
Speaker 4: jack Quayna Jackson out of Arkansas, Theo Weese out of Missouri,
Speaker 4: Jalen Kimber out of Penn State, r J. Mickens out
Speaker 4: of Clemson, Craig Woodson out of California who will be here,
Speaker 4: and Seth Hennigan out of Memphis.
Speaker 6: And then there's a.
Speaker 4: Handful of other undrafted guys that I think are fun personally,
Speaker 4: but uh, those are those are the draftable guys that
Speaker 4: are eligible.
Speaker 5: Great right there.
Speaker 8: Huh uh Lunt from from a Yukon. I love, I
Speaker 8: love Chase left from the right tackle ste I think
Speaker 8: that was that was who you see. Look, this is
Speaker 8: the problem. Terry Steele played at Texas Tech. When he
Speaker 8: threw the ball fifty times, you wouldn't assume that they
Speaker 8: would get a run blocker out of their scheme. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but Chase Lunt, they run the ball over there, and
Speaker 8: they run outside a penn and pull over there. He
Speaker 8: does it well and he tries to finish people.
Speaker 6: Arlington Martin Grad.
Speaker 11: So there's a couple of quarterbacks though, set Hennigan, youewers,
Speaker 11: those might be options.
Speaker 7: For you guys. You didn't put Memphis quarterback seth hundred Memphis.
Speaker 9: I'm okay, I'm gonna stop at two hundred players.
Speaker 5: Leave it that. Don't hate on Seth Hennigan to get after.
Speaker 9: Jeff. I don't hand on Chase Chase.
Speaker 5: I don't know, leap in disrespectful.
Speaker 9: It's I know, it is terrible.
Speaker 5: His dad's a legend in the area. By the way,
Speaker 5: Dave Hennigan.
Speaker 2: It's what do you do? He was a head coach
Speaker 2: and a state champion at Dent't Ryan High.
Speaker 5: School. Some of your favorite draft prospects went to.
Speaker 9: Him chus out of Johnny from topics.
Speaker 5: You're the worst, all right.
Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to look ahead at
Speaker 2: some of these other prospects that we could be uh
Speaker 2: taking a look at from Dallas day and kind of
Speaker 2: outline that list as well. Plus, Uh, I've got some
Speaker 2: guys that I want to talk about. Film on, some
Speaker 2: guys that we haven't mentioned on this show before.
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Speaker 2: Draft Show with a little tell me More. I want
Speaker 2: to know a little bit more about some players we
Speaker 2: haven't mentioned much here on the Draft Show, one of
Speaker 2: which Jabbar Mohammed Corner from Oregon.
Speaker 5: Of course, we've.
Speaker 2: Heard a lot of the assistant coaches making the trip
Speaker 2: out there to Oregon. Could Muhammad be a later draft
Speaker 2: pick that we could maybe see wearing a star on
Speaker 2: the side of his helm?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Jabbar Mohammad de Soto Grad. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 4: his brother here in a couple of years, Malik Muhammad
Speaker 4: out of Texas. He's also got a ton of family
Speaker 4: members in the NFL. That family is kind of the
Speaker 4: first family of football in South Dallas. If you are
Speaker 4: a football fan in Dallas, you know about the Mohammad family.
Speaker 4: But Jabar Mohammad is the next one up. He's probably
Speaker 4: the smallest of the crew the Mohamed family, but has
Speaker 4: a wealth of experience. You go back to Washington where
Speaker 4: he made college Football Playoff National championship a year ago.
Speaker 4: Was a star corner on that team. Then when that
Speaker 4: coaching staff got blown up for when Kaitlyn to Bor
Speaker 4: left for Alabama, he left for Oregon and went to
Speaker 4: the other side of the of the rivalry and played
Speaker 4: well for the Ducks last year.
Speaker 5: The thing for me with Jabbar start off at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 4: He started off at and a lot of Mohammeds have
Speaker 4: started at Oklahoma State and end up finishing somewhere else.
Speaker 4: I wonder when they're gonna learn. I think I think
Speaker 4: with with Jabbar, though great hands and I love his
Speaker 4: hand fighting, I do I think there's a lot you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to work on with his footwork and the explosion.
Speaker 4: The testing did not come back great from the combine.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking at a guy who you would
Speaker 4: probably have to play in the slot with a vertical
Speaker 4: of twenty nine and a half and didn't do broad
Speaker 4: didn't do forty. I mean, so he's I think he's
Speaker 4: trying to hide some of that athleticism that he lacks
Speaker 4: for the next level. This is gonna be a guy
Speaker 4: that I think on day three we're gonna talk about
Speaker 4: maybe in the sixth or seventh round. And look, he's
Speaker 4: a great player, great hands. Like I said, if if
Speaker 4: if we're talking short route concepts, I think this guy
Speaker 4: be really good playing in like a zone type scheme.
Speaker 4: But if you're asking this guy to carry a guy
Speaker 4: on the outside stride for stride down the field and
Speaker 4: you know, potentially have to work with a guy that
Speaker 4: hasn't developed a route tree, I think you're asking him
Speaker 4: to do it maybe a little bit too much, But
Speaker 4: I think this is a guy that for another team
Speaker 4: would be a draftable player. For this team, this isn't
Speaker 4: the type of corner that they like.
Speaker 11: He's gonna be too small, and I think I have
Speaker 11: a problem. I like these small corners. I knew he
Speaker 11: had a game winning pass breakup against Ohio State. It
Speaker 11: ended up getting overturned because they had an illegal the
Speaker 11: too many people. But this dude I love, and he's
Speaker 11: a friend of our show. We actually had him on
Speaker 11: a couple of weeks ago. High Character Dude, High Football IQ.
Speaker 11: He is giving up a lot on the outside, but
Speaker 11: he's competitive as all hell, and there are times you're
Speaker 11: gonna see him get a little bit body better. Route
Speaker 11: runners are gonna beat him down the field, but when
Speaker 11: he can get a jam, play physical. He plays bigger
Speaker 11: than what his size indicates. And I do like him
Speaker 11: kicking inside, playing nickel corner. I think the footwork would
Speaker 11: be better off inside in tight areas because I think
Speaker 11: he's quick. But to me, the pass breakups like his
Speaker 11: ability to get his hands in there between the receiver.
Speaker 5: And the football swipes.
Speaker 11: Dude had twelve pass breakups last year. Forty career pass
Speaker 11: breakups played against really good competition. You watched him at
Speaker 11: Washington against Xavier Worthy. Now that's a good matchup for
Speaker 11: him because against smaller receivers, we got this roll in
Speaker 11: right now, he really took Exavier Worthy out of that
Speaker 11: game at some points. And he's a guy that welcomes
Speaker 11: going up against the best receivers on the team. Him
Speaker 11: against Jeremiah Smith was really fun tape. Jabar Mohammed's guy
Speaker 11: would bet on on day three. I know he's not
Speaker 11: gonna be the measurable guy, not at all, but the
Speaker 11: heart and I love the makeup ability with what he
Speaker 11: plays with the physicality, just a pest man. He's got
Speaker 11: a little bit of that dog in him, and you
Speaker 11: need that in a corner.
Speaker 8: Maybe a little safety, you know, maybe, yeah, tackler, I
Speaker 8: could see that he you know rees well, you know,
Speaker 8: I think personally, you know, you wouldn't like him versus big,
Speaker 8: tall characters all the time, right, but watching them versus Boise,
Speaker 8: like they noticed that, right, So they put all these
Speaker 8: characters over there on him, and he's just fighting with
Speaker 8: these guys, just batting the passes, crosses over the middle
Speaker 8: of the field.
Speaker 9: Good lucky you slants, good luxy.
Speaker 11: He's he'll lose come back and he's like, all right,
Speaker 11: you got me once, I'm gonna get you this time.
Speaker 8: But that five jump out the film, don't it. Yeah,
Speaker 8: that's that's on him, man, good lady.
Speaker 7: The only thing I have to say, I think everybody's
Speaker 7: got him right. I think you need to see his
Speaker 7: eyes around quicker. I think there's some problems with the
Speaker 7: ball goes and he gets a little bit you know
Speaker 7: where he gets in trouble that way of not getting
Speaker 7: his eyes around fast enough.
Speaker 5: But he's super competitive. I love that about the kid. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think overall, when you look at his pedigree, in
Speaker 2: the way that he started his career the way that
Speaker 2: he ended it, it's always kind of been in that
Speaker 2: same mentality moving forward. Now, I want to talk about
Speaker 2: linebacker here, Chamar James out of Florida.
Speaker 5: What did you see from him? Moving? Uh, staying on
Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball. But what did you
Speaker 5: see from James?
Speaker 11: I think this is a guy that's a good athlete,
Speaker 11: is not a good football player. Okay, personally, he just
Speaker 11: doesn't I don't see the instinct. There's no instincts at all,
Speaker 11: Like I sense hesitancy when you watch him play. He's athletic,
Speaker 11: he moves well, unblocked, blitzes. He he doesn't never finish,
Speaker 11: but he does a really good job of forcing the
Speaker 11: quarterback out of the pocket, but he doesn't finish. Uh,
Speaker 11: he's he's a little stiff in his lateral agility kind
Speaker 11: of hops around a bit for me. Reminds me, and
Speaker 11: he reminds me of a little Jalen Smith, so like
Speaker 11: he's a little late to the party.
Speaker 7: He's a straight line player and he I think he
Speaker 7: needs to be a will You got to keep him
Speaker 7: free and just let him run because the instincts he
Speaker 7: really doesn't. I mean there are plays where he clearly
Speaker 7: loses the ball. Yeah, I mean it just like he's
Speaker 7: his head is you know, he just doesn't know where
Speaker 7: it's coming from. So I just I think i'd have
Speaker 7: a hard time with him.
Speaker 8: Was he ever a safety. But you know they'll, they'll
Speaker 8: he's six sometimes, yeah, got him do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 8: But I don't think he's great at it at all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just man, like I said, the instincts just
Speaker 7: bothered me. And this is how straight line he is.
Speaker 7: And when he even when he rushed, you could see
Speaker 7: how hard it was for him to turn when a
Speaker 7: quarterback was able to move, you know, moving out of
Speaker 7: the out of the pocket on him, and he was
Speaker 7: having to to kind of make that happen he's.
Speaker 5: Just such a big time recruit.
Speaker 11: Like Niki, your probably a five star recruit coming out
Speaker 11: of the state of Alabama, which the number three prospect
Speaker 11: in the state, and he just they missed on it
Speaker 11: for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: It's just and he picked Florida Overbama. It just didn't
Speaker 5: work out respecfully.
Speaker 6: It was not a five so we didn't miss on
Speaker 6: that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you talked about the safety profile that I
Speaker 4: do remember that being a discussion during his recruitment. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is going to be kind of the modern off
Speaker 4: ball linebacker that you can see playing the second level
Speaker 4: with the next level, whereas, like you know, maybe ten
Speaker 4: years ago, this guy's maybe further back. But this is
Speaker 4: a guy that the Cowboys had a formal meeting with
Speaker 4: at the combine, and you would understand why, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're looking for depth at the linebacker position, this
Speaker 4: is a guy who played in all four phases of
Speaker 4: special teams at Florida. He did as late as as
Speaker 4: late as a senior year. So maybe that's the type
Speaker 4: of guy you're looking for in a Day three pick
Speaker 4: like this. But I'm with what everybody said here at
Speaker 4: the table.
Speaker 2: Well, in a lot of times when you have a
Speaker 2: formal at the combine, sometimes you want to put a
Speaker 2: guy like that on the whiteboard. See what he knows
Speaker 2: from an instinct standpoint, from a scheme standpoint, what actually
Speaker 2: football IQ is there? Because, like you said, the athleticism
Speaker 2: jumps off and he's got all sorts of athletic ability.
Speaker 2: But when you want to try and kind of pigeonhole
Speaker 2: where he's going to be from a football IQ standpoint,
Speaker 2: that's where you could really get hurt.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: Caandre Lambert Smith from Auburn, the wide receiver, tall prospect
Speaker 2: out of out of Auburn that spent some time at
Speaker 2: Penn State previously.
Speaker 5: Anybody Havekeandre Lambert Smith.
Speaker 8: Physical jump ball slant guy. Yeah, tackle me if you can. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Like he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 8: You know, I wouldn't call him like a route run
Speaker 8: or nothing like that. But he gets down, he gets downfield,
Speaker 8: a little step boom, he gets down.
Speaker 11: He's not going to leave you a like super elusive
Speaker 11: in the open field. You know what he's doing. He's catching,
Speaker 11: he's getting up field. But you're right, and he's got
Speaker 11: some home run hitting speed with his game. I mean
Speaker 11: at six one, I thought he was bigger. Like we
Speaker 11: saw him in person of the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 5: He looks big. He stood out to us like, man,
Speaker 5: this dude is big.
Speaker 11: He at Penn State, he was pretty darn good before
Speaker 11: transferring to Auburn. We talked about it off the ear
Speaker 11: of the Black Lines there with Cam Chancellor.
Speaker 5: I do like the play. I thought the film was
Speaker 5: pretty don impressive.
Speaker 7: Yes, seventy four percent of his receptions resulting in a
Speaker 7: first down yep for Auburn. And its funny because I
Speaker 7: was looking at Pro Football Focus after watching the tape.
Speaker 7: Five hundred and fifteen of his five hundred and thirty
Speaker 7: one snaps were taken on the right side of the offense,
Speaker 7: so he was primarily just a as we see a
Speaker 7: right right side player.
Speaker 5: I loved him running slants. By the way, I mean
Speaker 5: they threw the ball.
Speaker 7: I mean, the Auburn's quarterbacks are just awful and he
Speaker 7: They're throwing the ball all over the place.
Speaker 5: But this guy, I mean, you see some of the
Speaker 5: four to three seven, he does.
Speaker 7: Have some of that that that that speed, and he's
Speaker 7: not afraid to extend for the ball.
Speaker 5: And I like how he acceparates.
Speaker 7: He catches share of balls in traffic, and I think
Speaker 7: he plays with a lot of courage because there's no
Speaker 7: time where the ball is gonna end up for him.
Speaker 5: So you always wonder.
Speaker 7: Why kid, you know, leaves Penn stay to go to
Speaker 7: Auburn and play in such a terrible situation at quarterback.
Speaker 5: But this kid went through it.
Speaker 2: Good catch radius, high point, ability to track the ball.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got all of those different elements to it.
Speaker 2: You talked about the multiple eighty yard receptions in a season.
Speaker 2: He's got a home run.
Speaker 5: Ability to him.
Speaker 2: Played his best football down the stretch in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four too. You look at the games against AMM, Texas
Speaker 2: A and M. He had one hundred yard performs the
Speaker 2: game before that, he had one hundred against ULM, and
Speaker 2: then he had one hundred against Alabama in the game
Speaker 2: in the Iron Bowl in Tuscaloosa. So lots of good
Speaker 2: positive things there.
Speaker 5: I thought. Is his build, like you said, he's tall
Speaker 5: and lanky.
Speaker 2: He's got some tone there, but he's a little slim
Speaker 2: on the outside. That's okay, that's fine. You can kind
Speaker 2: of refine his route running Like you said, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a perfect route running, kind of rounded his breaks at times.
Speaker 2: You can maybe refine the footwork there. I think he's
Speaker 2: a good football player and somebody that on day three
Speaker 2: you would really take a chance on, and maybe a
Speaker 2: guy you can work into a rotation starting as a
Speaker 2: rookie as well. I mean he was all big ten
Speaker 2: with Penn State, turns around and gets all SEC with
Speaker 2: Auburn and in an offense, like Brian said, with not
Speaker 2: good quarterback play.
Speaker 5: Andre Lambert. Smith's kind of a diamond in the rough
Speaker 5: for this this draft.
Speaker 2: Not going to be a guy that'll be a Day one,
Speaker 2: day two guy, But on day three we're going to
Speaker 2: hear his name called and say that's a good pick
Speaker 2: for whatever team selects him.
Speaker 4: Mentioned you mentioned Brian that first downstat. Yeah, if you
Speaker 4: have it in front of you, what was it again,
Speaker 4: it's fine.
Speaker 5: Seventy four percent of his receptions resulted in a first down.
Speaker 4: You said that, Kyle, you mentioned him being a home
Speaker 4: run hitter. This is a guy who does specialize with
Speaker 4: the downfield routes. Yeah, these short route concepts. You go
Speaker 4: back and watching the film, Corners are jamming him and
Speaker 4: getting him out of there, and he has tells too.
Speaker 4: Whenever he's running, these curls are running, you know, inside
Speaker 4: the sticks. So this would be a guy that you
Speaker 4: would have to trust with your quarterback to be able
Speaker 4: to find some home run ability. But I think he's
Speaker 4: going to find a fun spot in the league, and
Speaker 4: if he's in the right spot, he can be a
Speaker 4: dynamic claimate maker.
Speaker 2: And We're going to try and do some more of
Speaker 2: these tell me mores as we get closer thirty days
Speaker 2: out from the NFL Draft, and I'm going to keep
Speaker 2: kind of giving names for those that haven't had a
Speaker 2: scouting report yet or may not have the access to
Speaker 2: the film. Gonna get these names out there as we
Speaker 2: go along. But that does it for us here on
Speaker 2: the Draft Show. That hour went by very quick, guys,
Speaker 2: well done as always. We'll be back on Thursday. Quarterback
Speaker 2: takes Thursday at ten o'clock. We're going an hour early
Speaker 2: on Thursday. So wake up with us, grab your your
Speaker 2: favorite coffee, your favorite morning beverage. We'll get you ready
Speaker 2: for some draft coming up on Thursday as well. For
Speaker 2: Brian brought us Zach Wilchuck Watch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Chris
Speaker 2: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long
Speaker 2: from the Draft show.
Speaker 5: We'll see you on Thursday.
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