1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, October eighth, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: number forty. Welcome to another edition of The Break. We're 9 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Got Nick, Dave and Amber here ready to talk some 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys football For the next forty five minutes. We will 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: be joined momentarily by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network, as 13 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: he does every windy and Thursday. Today, he will be 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: talking to us about the New York Giant defense versus 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. Before we get to Bucky, though, there 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: was some injury updates that we got, some interesting injury 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: updates that we got from coach McCarthy during his press 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: conference this morning. Let's start first by talking about Layton Vanderish. Nick, 19 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: give me an update on what coach McCarthy had to say. 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: About where it Laton Vanderish in his return from an 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: I mean from a collar boy collarbone injury. Well, I mean, 22 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: he basically didn't rule out that he could play this week, 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: which I think is surprising to some. Now, that doesn't 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: necessarily mean he said he would play. He just said 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: they're going to work him into practice today. They're gonna 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: see what he can do. We got to see him 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: kind of run out there a little bit in the pads. 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe. I know, you know, 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Dave and we've talked about this. I think you know, 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: we find it hard to believe that he could be 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: ready to play, especially come back with one practice. But 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: at least it's an encouraging sign that he's out there today. 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: And you know, if you didn't play this week, it 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: seems like it's it's sooner than later. Yeah, it does 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: seem a bit strange. I mean, we talked about this 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: yesterday on the show. When you talk about a collar 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: bone injury, you talk about any broken bone. It's not 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: like what you would have if you had to say, 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: a bumb hamstring, soft tissue injury. A lot of that 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: has to do with how you feel and whether you 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: think you can go or not. It's a whole different 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: thing when you're talking about a bone because it's all 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: about the bone healing. So it seems a little bit 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: a little bit weird to he come back early from 45 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: a bone healing unless his body's just made in a 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: way where it healed the bones heal faster than opical. Now, 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so, but but again, you just never know. 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: And the good news, I think the good news about 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: all of this with regards to Layton is he's at 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: least progressing right, and he's progressing in the right way, 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: and so the hope is maybe in the next two weeks, 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: maybe in the next three weeks, you get him back 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: and he's fully healthy, hopefully and able to finish the 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: season for the Cowboys. Let's also catch up on a 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: couple of other injury updates. Let's talk about Tyren Smith. 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: I think, Dave, do you have an update on on 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: what coach McCarthy had to say about all right, let's nick, 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: I think he's having some technical difficulties. Let's talk a 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: little bit about Tyren Smith um and I think I 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: think Amber is there as well. But let's tough a 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: little bit about it. Down here. Good, Okay, there you 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: are Aber. Did you hear with coach coach McCarthy I 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: can tell you about Tyren Smith. I do not. It 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: did not sound that great. I mean, Mike McCarthy said 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: today that he's basically further back than at this time 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: this week than he was last week. So that's not 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: always good to hear. I mean, you would expect him 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: to be further along, but you also have to take 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: into consideration that this last weekend he did play a 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: football game, as opposed to last week where he didn't 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: participate in a game. So I guess it's gonna depend 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, I would assume, But 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, as of right now, I think you just 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: never know what's what can happen with Tyrn Smith. Yeah, 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really troubling, I think because as we've 76 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: talked about, and this is not the first season, as 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: we've talked about for the last several seasons, this is neck, 78 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: this is back. When he's having these kinds of things 79 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and the recurring injuries that are keeping him out of games. Um, 80 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: it gets to a point where it's hard to really 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: rely on the fact that he's going to be available 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: to you. And now, Nick, we were talking about this upstairs, 83 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: and you made a really great point. When you stop 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: making Pro Bowls is when I stop worrying about having 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: you on the team. But it's only just still making 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, then all pros even maybe maybe you keep 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: him around. But I just I wonder, I wonder it's 88 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: at what point the Cowboys get to a point where 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: they're like, I'm I'm just we can't rely on him 90 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: enough because this neck and back just doesn't seem to 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: get right. Yeah, I mean I think it's I think 92 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: this is where they are right now. And then, yes, 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: you got to go through the draft next year and 94 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: probably get a lot of defensive help, but you better 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: look at that offensive tackle position. Yeah, you know at 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: some point because you've got two guys now that are 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: banged up. You know, you've paid these guys l l 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: N TYRN, but neither one of them are consistently in 99 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: the lineup this year. Obviously Lyle's out for the whole season, 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's you need to start addressing it. 101 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: I think it's sooner than later with the fact that 102 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: he's regressed at this point. How concerned are you about 103 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: come this upcoming game if Tyrn can't play? And I 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: think we got Dave back, I'll pose that question him. 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: How concerned to you if he can't play this week 106 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: against a John's team That we'll get into a little 107 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: bit later. I think this if it's a little better 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: than people given him credit for. But how much do 109 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: you are you concerned this weekend? Yeah? I'm always concerned 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: when Tyrn can't play. I mean, I'm the guy that says, 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, people overreact because of the Chad screen game, 112 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: but there's obviously still a difference between Tyron Smith and 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents behind him, And you know, we've 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: got a pretty large sample size that says Terrence Steals 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: not ready. So as good as I feel about Brandon Night, 116 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: if Tyrant can't go, now you're talking about needing two tackles, 117 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: And so now the conversation goes back to, like, is 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: Zach Martin your best bet at right tackle if you 119 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: need him to be there? Because I hate to say 120 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: this because like, I'm sure he's a nice guy, but 121 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: like I hate the thought of having to see Terrence 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Steele out there again. So yes, it's very concerning if 123 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Tyrant can't play. Yeah, I think we all are a 124 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: bit a bit worried. I would I would suggest at 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: the idea that you have to throw Terrence Steele back 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: out there. Maybe this weekend you can get by. But 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: as you move throughout the season and you start seeing 128 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: pass rushers, you know, like Myles Garrett, which I'm sure 129 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: there will be some more of those that will be 130 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: on the schedule as we keep going through the season, 131 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: you do get a little bit worried. And the hope 132 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: is that the hope is that he's maybe a little 133 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: bit worse off this week, but if they don't let 134 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: him play this weekend, and maybe he's better prepared to 135 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe string some games together after that. But who knows 136 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: at this point. Let's let's also get an update on 137 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: a few other guys. We've got Anthony Brown, Dorn's Armstrong, 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: and tower On Crawford. Uh, tell me where where they 139 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: are as far as they're them coming back from from 140 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: injuries or now being added to the injury report. Nick, Well, 141 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I'll start with Anthony Brown. I mean, you know, we 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: were surprised that he had a rib injury that he 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: suffered in practice a few weeks ago. Three weeks now 144 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: on the injury report. Um, he's he's he should be back. 145 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: He's eligible to practice this week and that that twenty 146 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: one day window. I would imagine just by the them 147 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: releasing Brandon carr Um that they need a spot, they 148 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: have spots open on the roster, and they need cornerback 149 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: help and I would imagine that he will slide into 150 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: that role this week. And it sounds like from what 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy said that everything went according to plan yesterday. 152 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: He was able to take part in some part portions 153 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: of practice and and so the I guess he's progressing 154 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: in a way to where they feel like, you know, 155 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: maybe he has the ability to maybe play this weekend. 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Talk to me about Dorn's arm strong. What a coach 157 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: McCart they have to say about him, Dave, He actually 158 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: that was like as encouraging as he's ever been about 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: an injury guy. He bab. I mean, he just he 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: came out of the game with the injury. He said, 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, he's very optimistic he'll be able to work 162 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: his way up. So you know, it sounds good on 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: that front. Tyrone Crawford maybe limited today, as what he said, 164 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: They'll see how he responds to the early part. It's 165 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think I've said this a few times, 166 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: but we're definitely still adjusting to the difference in the 167 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: schedules with practice. Like under Jason Garrett, you would like 168 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: start on Wednesday and slowly ramp your way up to Friday, 169 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: whereas here it almost I don't want to get they're afterthoughts, 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: but like Thursday is the important day, Thursday is the 171 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: long padded practice. Obviously, Friday is basically a walkthrough, and 172 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday like it. You know, if it even seems like 173 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: it's in doubt, they're not going to make you go. 174 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: So it's just interesting to see a different coaching staffs 175 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: active on you know, what days of the week are 176 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the most important, and for sure Thursday is that day 177 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy. That much is very obvious. You know, 178 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned Tyrone Crawford and I want to go around 179 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the table here and get your opinions on what you 180 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: think of Tyrone Crawford's play so far through the early 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: part of the season, because he's part of that defense 182 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: is to add a lot of problems. He is one 183 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: of the veterans, and some call them one of the 184 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: leaders of that defense. How have you how do you 185 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: assess his play over these first few first four games, 186 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: and but let's start with you, I would say, I mean, 187 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: he's been okay, okay, and he's the type of guy 188 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: that we see every year. He's not gonna be the 189 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: guy that necessarily stands out on the defensive line. He's 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: a guy that that's very flexible and you can kind 191 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: of plug him in there wherever you need him. But 192 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: he's never gonna be the standout player, that aggressive player 193 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: that gets all the time to the quarterback. I think 194 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: so far this season, he the times that I've watched 195 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: him specifically, I think he's been just okay. Obviously nothing impressive, 196 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: but at the same time, nothing horrible to where I'm like, okay, 197 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: you need to absolutely get Tyrone Crawford out of the lineup. 198 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: So to me, he's just been okay. Nick, what are 199 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Tyrone Crawford? What have you seen from 200 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: him through fourhand? I haven't seen much of anything good 201 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: or bad, you know, I mean I really can't remember, like, oh, 202 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: great play by Crawford or what's Crawford doing? Like I 203 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: haven't I haven't noticed it. And on this defense. That's 204 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily a bad thing. So I just haven't I 205 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: can't say he's really stood out much. And but he, 206 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, he needs to. I mean, he's he's he's 207 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: one of the you know, he's one of the higher 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: paid players on the team, and he's and he's also 209 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: one of the leaders, you know, captain. He's been a 210 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: captain before, so you know, he like everyone else, you know, 211 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: and then it needs to step up and and play better. 212 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: And I think they're having a tough time. We all 213 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: know that they're having a tough time with this scheme. 214 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: They're not used to it, they haven't practiced it enough, 215 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: and it's probably, in hindsight, wasn't the best idea to 216 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: change it. But then again, think about when they when 217 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: they come in here and changing the scheme. No one 218 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: thought this was going to happen. But I think it's 219 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: just been a circumstance that they probably need to play 220 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: a different scheme, one that they're similar in playing. Dave, 221 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean other than Alden Smith, like, do 222 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: you feel great about the way that any defender on 223 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: this team has played? Not great? And Aldon Smith like, 224 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean the answers no, in my opinion, Um, 225 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: I haven't. I'll be very honest with like, I haven't 226 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: noticed Tyrone Crawford at all. And I mean that doesn't 227 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: necessarily mean he's been bad, but you know, it's easy 228 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: to forget because it's ancient history. But he's still at 229 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: nine million dollars or your player. And I always like 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: he was. He's always good. He's the hustle play a 231 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: guy like he's the guy who gets the sack when 232 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback is indecisive and the play draws out for 233 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: like five or six seconds. Like he's always the guy 234 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: who is making the long, extended hustle play. I haven't 235 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: seen it so far this year. I mean, which, yeah, 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: but that's everybody on the defense, Like literally nobody on 237 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: the defense is playing up to what you would want. 238 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: So throw him in there with everybody else. 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We're gonna get into this Cowboys 285 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: offense versus the New York Giant defense, and we'll start 286 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: with I want to change the question a little bit. 287 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: Usually we start the strongest and weak weakest assets of 288 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: the team or the weakest parts of the team. I 289 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: want to really focus in a little bit more on 290 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: position groups or player. If you had to identify a 291 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: position group or player on the defense that is the 292 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: greatest and the weakest, what would that be. I mean, 293 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: I think it starts with them upfront. Leonard Williams is 294 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: probably the best player that they have. He's a guy 295 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: that was a top six selection, a guy who's super talented. 296 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: He hasn't necessarily put up to kind of production that 297 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: you respect from a guy that was to dead highly, 298 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: but he certainly has the ability to flash some disruptive 299 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: skills at the point of attack. I would say Factral 300 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: is a guy that you also have to pay attention to. 301 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: Two years ago, twenty eighteen, he had ten and a 302 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: half sacks, so he has the ability to get off 303 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: the edge and make some things happen. And then in 304 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: the abild of their defense, Blake Martinez who they signed 305 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: from the Green Bay Packers, is a guy that can 306 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: control the tackle tackle box. He's attacking machine. And when 307 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: you look at this defense in general, I will say 308 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: they may not be the most talented unit, but they 309 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: play hard. And because they're able to play hard, they 310 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: can keep their offense in games. And that's what we 311 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: saw a wee could go against the La Rams. But 312 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: my question is about the Cowboys offense. We've seen that 313 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: so far they've been able to score thirty plus point 314 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: with exception of that first game against the Rams. Is 315 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: that something that the Cowboys offense is able to kind 316 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: of keep doing week by week. Oh yeah, the offense is. 317 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the offense is the biggest part, the best 318 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: part of the Boys team. Like they are the ones 319 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: that they can never have a bad game because offensively 320 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: they can overwhelm people even with the issues that may 321 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: exist on the offensive lineed offensive tackle. The scale positions 322 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: are a plus. Zekiel Elliott is an a plus two 323 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: quarterback is playing at a plus level, and so they 324 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: have the weaponry to put points up on the board. 325 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: Now the key is can you put points up and 326 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: eventually learn how to control the game? Can kill him 327 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Moore begin to manage the game knowing that I can 328 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: score at any point, but I'm gonna take a little 329 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: air out of it to protect my defense. And so 330 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: we'll see if they can kind of advance to that point. 331 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: But offensively, yeah, they can score in anybody, Bucky, I'm 332 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: hoping you can tell me about what I thought was 333 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting free agent signings in the offseason, 334 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: which was James Bradberry. I mean, he's a pretty good 335 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: corner in Carolina. Like I always viewed him as like 336 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: a third cornerbacks up package guy, but they gave him 337 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: like pretty good money for a cornerback, and I'm just curious, 338 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: how's he doing. Is he living up to that expectation 339 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: and what does his role look like for this defense? 340 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he's certainly not living up today altation because 341 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: the money that he's making, he should be a number 342 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: one corner that it's a classic case and we see 343 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: it and we'll see it in Washington, Like guys have 344 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: a tendency to fall in love with the players that 345 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: they picked. David Gettiman picked James Barbery in Carolina. They 346 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: used a pretty high pick on him. He certainly has size, 347 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: he has length, he has speed, but he by no 348 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: means is a lockdown corner. He can play in zone 349 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: and do some of those things, and he's fine when 350 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you kind of cover him up and let him play 351 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: off and do that. But to think that he is 352 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: going to shadow and chase and track one to top receivers, no, 353 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: I think this could be a week for him. That 354 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: could be very challenging because each of the Cowboys receivers 355 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: brings about a different set of challenges, and if you 356 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: don't have a complete toolbox, you can find yourself twisted 357 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: around like a top. Bucky helped me on the grade 358 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: A plus because I didn't get a lot of these 359 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: when I was in school, maybe like six ever, Oh 360 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: you didn't, Yeah, like from like kindergartens. Okay, A plus 361 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: to me, A plus means the best you can do. 362 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: Can't get really any better than that? Can that man 363 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: get better than this? Yeah? I mean, like I mean 364 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: you said a plus level, I don't think. I just 365 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: don't think a quarterback with a one in three record, 366 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: who if the Browns could catch the football he'd have 367 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: four interceptions last week. Is he Yeah, he's putting up 368 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot of yarts, But is he playing the best 369 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: that he could play? I mean, I think given the circumstances, 370 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I am surprised at how effective he's been able to play. 371 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Because remember Nick, when when you watch him, he draws 372 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: back every time knowing that the edges are unprotected, and 373 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: so as a quarterback, he never he never can get 374 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: fully he never can get fully comfortable knowing that I 375 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: can keep my eyes down the field, that I can 376 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: hang on my number one option a little longer because 377 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: I know that I have that comfort zone. If we 378 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: look at where he is being basically how he came 379 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen where he was the game manager, 380 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: to what he is now, I would say this, and 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna get a lot of pushback, but 382 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: he is on the maturation in the track that Russell 383 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: Wilson was on. Russell Wilson came in the league as 384 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: a game manager, and he has eventually become the playmaker. 385 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: At some point, this Dallas Cowboys offense will eventually the 386 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: ball to Dak Prescott and they will say, go win it. 387 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: He's almost to that point he needs some other stuff 388 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: around him in terms of the defense or whatever. But 389 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: what he has been able to do to keep this 390 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: team in game with a defense that can't stop anyone 391 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: is nothing short of remarkable. So I believe he is 392 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: playing at a high level. And the yards of the yards, 393 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: they are empty calories. But man, to put up something 394 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: that's on pace for sixty seven hundred yards like that 395 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: is ridiculous production from a quarterback. And even though the 396 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: turnovers are not what I like, when you're throwing sixty 397 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: times a game, you're going to have some of those 398 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: turnovers kind of pop up. I think Dave and I 399 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: are both just screaming preach in our minds right now 400 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: because we just love stop. Well, but what are sixty 401 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: seven hundred yards? Like? What? What is that? Well, honestly, again, 402 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: is that an NFL record? No? No, is that a pace? 403 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's he's he's on pace to tell you, 404 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: sixty seven hundred. So you got say he's face out 405 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: four wins, four and twelve. Yeah. But but that's why 406 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: I think the point is, and I think this is 407 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: what Bucky's saying. I think the point is that no 408 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: matter what you say about the record what he is doing, 409 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: and people can talk about these these yards that don't 410 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: matter because it's in games when they're way behind. Not 411 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: every quarterback that gets behind can do what he's done 412 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: to get his team back in position to possibly win 413 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: those games. So I think you have to put it 414 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: all in context. And when you put it all in context, 415 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: I think he's playing at a phenomenal level like that. 416 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: You guys are just giving the extra the slash. I'm 417 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: saying a minus. I I'm not saying. I'm not saying 418 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: like he's a C. He's played. He's played even he 419 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: can't even get to an A for you you like minus. 420 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: They're one in three right now, they're one in three, 421 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: and and if he could play a little bit better 422 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: than the first half as well, he's they're one of 423 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: the reasons they're down. I don't think that's true. I 424 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: don't think of that last game he was the problem. 425 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: Even in the first half. He was playing really well 426 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: in the first half. I think I think the turnovers 427 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: and what killed them, and particularly the turnover that you 428 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: got from your running back who's not supposed to do that. 429 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: He's not. Yeah, he's he doesn't think he's not in 430 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the A level. Becau Zeke is not in. We'll take 431 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: this conversation off. I don't want to take I don't 432 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: want to take you. I don't want to take any 433 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: of your classes. I know that I don't want to 434 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: take any I don't know if you like. We may 435 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: have given a couple of grades away, but I don't 436 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: want to take any of those. Professor, all right, that 437 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: was good. That was a good gig at his own school. 438 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: If you caught right, you know, I got it. I 439 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: got it. I got a question for you here. I 440 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: was looking at this defense and the numbers are pretty 441 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: interesting because I think everybody's looking at the New York 442 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: Giants and saying, and this team is horrible, But when 443 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: you start really diving in and looking at how their 444 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: defense is played. Right now, they have the sixth best 445 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: PAC defense, only giving up two hundred twenty three yards 446 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: per game. They have the tenth best rush defense on 447 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: giving up one hundred and seven yards per game. So 448 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: I have a two part question for you. First, is 449 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: their past defense good enough to slow down what is 450 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: a very potent Dallas offense or at least passing game? 451 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: And then number two, which would be easier to exploit 452 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: this week for the Dallas offense, going against that run 453 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: defense or going against that pass defense. You know, they've 454 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: done a really good job of just kind of playing sound. 455 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: They know they have some talent deficiencies, and so what 456 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: they've done is they've kind of covered themselves up. They 457 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: played I want to say, ben but don't break, but 458 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: they just played very solid defense. Not a lot of risks, 459 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: not a lot of crazy things that you'll see from 460 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: this team. They wait for you to beat yourself. That's 461 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: how they play defense. They want you to you're not 462 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: going to have a ten or eleven play drive without 463 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: a mistake, and they capitalize on those things. I think 464 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: when you look at them personnel wise, they don't have 465 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: anyone that can consistently put pressure on the passer. They 466 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: don't have an a level pass rusher on the front. 467 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: And so if I'm the Dallas Cowboys, I'm thinking this 468 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: is a game to really put the game plan in place, 469 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: meaning jump out on them fourteen quick points. So I 470 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: think you probably see them more aggressive the first quarter 471 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: with the pass because if they can get points up 472 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: on them offensively, the Giants haven't been able to score points, 473 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: so I think you may see a more aggressive passing 474 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: game early and then get to Zeke and run the 475 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: game out. But now I think they come out passing. 476 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: I think they have shown that when they go up tempo, 477 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: nohaddle play at a quick rate, Dak Prescott can deal, 478 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: and he's been dealing at a high rate. So I 479 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: think they come out passing with the mindset that we 480 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: still have to get to the run at some point 481 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: to slow and control the game down bucking. The word 482 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: effort has been used to watch this week and regards 483 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, But let me put that on the 484 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: Giants side. When you look at a Giants team that 485 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: has lost all games so far this season, when they're 486 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: going to Week five, does the defense would you expect 487 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: the defense to have just a better effort to just 488 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: be more competitive at this point or maybe the other 489 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: way around, where maybe they're not trying to ass hard 490 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: because of you know, mentally it weighs on you when 491 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: you have so many losses and not able to get 492 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: a win for your team. Yeah, that's certainly. Guys do 493 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: get discouraged when you have a series of losses. But 494 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: let's flipping around and let's talk about the Giants. And 495 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: how they look at the Cowboys. They're looking at the 496 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys as a one in three team. They're looking at 497 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys where this team gave up three hundred rushing yards, 498 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: so the offense has a little more energy because they 499 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: feel like, hey man, maybe we can just run the ball. 500 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: Devantae Freeman is thinking I could have a hundred yard 501 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: game against this front because they had a tough time 502 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: with a bunch of non notable guys picking up yards. 503 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: So then the defense will have energy, saying this may 504 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: be the game for us to get back on track, 505 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: even though they're talented. What Joe Judge is gonna stand 506 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: in front of the team and say is this is 507 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't play horde. If we play harder 508 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: than them, they may co left. They may fall prey 509 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: to the number of turnovers and mistakes that they've had 510 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: that have undermined their opportunity to win games. So they're 511 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: going to play hard and they're going to try and 512 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: put the pressure on the Cowboys to play a clean 513 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: game because the Cowboys haven't done that. They're saying that 514 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: if we play hord over sustained period of time, that 515 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys would gift wrapped us a couple of opportunities. This 516 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: kind of goes back to what the point Derek was making, 517 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: which is that their statistics are pretty impressive for an 518 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: own four team. I can't help but notice two of 519 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: those games or against Mitch Drubisky and Nick Mullins. So 520 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: forgive me if I'm not impressed. But but having said that, 521 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, they held Jared Goff pretty well in check 522 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: last week, and I'm just curious what they did to 523 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: keep his numbers down. I think, you know, he was 524 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: only averaging like six yards per attempt, finished with two 525 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: hundred yards, so clearly whatever they were doing seemed to work. Look, 526 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: they're committed to taking the deep ball away. Look, winning 527 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: international football is pretty simple. It's take the ball away, 528 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: eliminate the big plays, don't let the ball fly over 529 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: the top of the defense, make people drive the length 530 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: of the field because the odds suggest that you can't 531 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: do it. You can't stream together that mini plays, control 532 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: the running game, make people one dimensional, and then you 533 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: can dictate the terms. What the Giants do is they 534 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: really follow to that. They don't allow you to really 535 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: have the big plays over top, so they don't play 536 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: a little soft. They'll give you all those nickel and dons. 537 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: They'll let the quarterback take the check down because they're 538 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: betting that the quarterback will not consistently take the checkdown 539 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: because all of these twenty to thirty million dollars quarterbacks, 540 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: they want to show off their big arm. They want 541 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: to get the big play. That's kind of how their 542 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: wire and that's what the Giants are doing. So they're 543 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: going to challenge Dak Prescott in a different way. They're 544 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: going to challenge him, can you are you content taking 545 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: these five and six yard passes down the field if 546 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: we take away the big play and make you nickeling 547 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: Dammond down the field and throw ten passes to Zeke 548 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: or ten passes the dam shows. Are you willing to 549 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: be that patient and discipline? And if you are, they'll say, okay, 550 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: you can score points, but if not, you're going to 551 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: force it up to feel and they're banking that they 552 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: can get a turnover all for that, Bucky. If the 553 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line looks like Brandon KNIGHTE Connor Williams, be honest, 554 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: Zach Martin, Terrence Steele, do they do? The Giants have 555 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: a big advantage there. I mean, I think they feel 556 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: good about that because the edges. The edges are always 557 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: the thing when you put bad things on tape. When 558 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Terrence Steal is having problem with speed, when Brandon Knite 559 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: has had some issues, when Connor Williams is being isolated 560 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: in one on one situations and been pressured, they feel hopeful. 561 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: So as a defense coordinated what you want to do 562 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: is you want to maybe kick those guys out a 563 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: little wide, put them on speed tracks so they can 564 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of run around the edge, and see if Terrence 565 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: Steele and Brandon the night if they can kick, slide 566 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: and stay in front of those guys, because that's been 567 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: the biggest issue, So it's not necessary. The personnel is. 568 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: Can you test the weak points of the Cowboys offensive 569 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: line and see if those guys can hold up over 570 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: seventy five plays. That's really what's about. It's not about 571 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: the advantage. Is let's get those guys isolated. Let's see 572 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: if they can hold up even against c B level players. 573 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Are they good enough just to hold up if we 574 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: can isolate them and work one on one against those guys, 575 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: but we let you go. I think the Cowboys wins, 576 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: but I think this game is gonna be tougher than 577 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: most people realize because the Giants are playing harder than 578 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: the Giants will walk into the game knowing that they 579 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: have a chance. And oh, by the way, Jason Garrett 580 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: is going to make this a very personal thing for him, 581 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: even though they not score double dishes in the past 582 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: two games, he is going to empty the buckets to 583 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: try and go after that. And also because he knows 584 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: the personnel, he is going to try and find ways 585 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: to isolate guys that he knows. So he may try 586 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: and find a way to get Jordan Lewis one oh one. 587 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: He may try and find a way to get some 588 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: of the other guys in bad predicaments to see if 589 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: they can score points. I think the Cowboys win, but 590 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: I do think this game will be a closer game 591 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: than most with imagine. All right, great, we appreciate you 592 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: joining us, Bucky. We'll be back with you next week 593 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: when we start getting ready for the next game. 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As part 631 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: of the NFL Fan of the Year contest, we're launching 632 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: a search for one extraordinary Cowboys fan who is a 633 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: positive influence and inspires others through their love of the 634 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: game as an NFL dot Com slash Fan of the Year. 635 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: To learn more and nominate today, you know, any fans 636 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: of the year, you know what came to my mind? 637 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Our own William Boykins. Maybe we should nominate him or 638 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: a very hand of the year. I'm saying, I think 639 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: William is a he would be a great representative. Hey 640 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: to do the work that he does. He's still wearing 641 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: his Hot Boys cap. I don't know, good question. He 642 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: is a fan and I think there's been a recall 643 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: on those. I think they said, hey, bring them all. 644 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: They're missing in action, kind of missing here. All right, 645 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: let's let's get back in. You know. Actually I had 646 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: a whole list of things I was going to ask 647 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: you guys, but I actually want to go back a 648 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit because we did get into an interesting conversation 649 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: as Nick decided that um he needed to question the 650 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: grading scale of one bucket for the Twitter time. Prescott 651 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting though, Nick, I saw 652 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: your will starting when he first said A plus, and 653 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: I knew where you were going with it. But and 654 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: I get your point. Obviously, saying he's an A plus 655 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: means that he is playing the absolute best he can 656 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: possibly play, And so I get you. I understand it. 657 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: There are probably some areas, not probably, there are definitely 658 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: some areas where he could improve. But I think when 659 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: the point that Bucky made not agree with and I 660 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: want to get the thoughts from from Dave and Amber 661 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: on this, But you know, I think at the end 662 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: of the day, you look at how he's performed, and 663 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: I think bass step on all those things, all those 664 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: things that he's having to deal with right now. I 665 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: just have a hard time thinking anybody would have done 666 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: a much better job than what he has done through 667 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: these games. Now, at the end of the game, there 668 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: have been a couple of times when the offense just 669 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: couldn't get there to be able to tie the game 670 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: or take a lead, and so some of that you 671 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: you kind of put back on him. But all that 672 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: being said, I think he is right up there at 673 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: least an A, if not an A plus. Amber, what 674 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: do you think I do give him an A if 675 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: we have to grade him. I think he's had a 676 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: really good year so far. I mean, when you when 677 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: you look at the development compared to year by year 678 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: and the growth, I think this year he really made 679 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: a big growth compared to previous years. But at the 680 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: end of the day, when you start comparing him to 681 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: or not comparing him, but saying that maybe he's on 682 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: the same path as a guy like Russell Wilson. He's 683 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily quite there for me just yet. Maybe he 684 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: will be. But when you look at those key plays, 685 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to put it all on Dak, 686 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: but two of the last plays of the past two games, 687 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: I believe it was where he threw what was it 688 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: an interception trying to get into the end zone to 689 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: possibly tie the game. I mean, those are the key 690 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: moments when you do want your quarterback to be able 691 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: to make those plays. And again, I'm not putting it 692 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: all on him. Obviously there are other components and elements 693 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: that go into play here. But just overall, I think 694 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: he's a name guy, but I'm still missing that plus 695 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: sign there, which hopefully he's on the right path. I 696 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: just that's all I'm gonna say. Dave saying Dak Prescott 697 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: like picking apart Dak Prescott's grade. It's like he's like 698 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: the kid in class where he busted the curve, like 699 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: everybody else in the class got like a C, A 700 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: D or in F and Dak is over here with 701 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: like a low A. He's got like he's got like 702 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: a ninety one out of a hundred, and the teachers like, well, 703 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: I know you can do better. And meanwhile, like everybody 704 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: else in the class is posting like sixties and seventies, 705 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? Why are we nitpicking this guy? 706 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: And I mean, no, he hasn't been perfect, but I 707 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: feel very comfortable saying they're only There are only probably 708 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in the league playing better football than him 709 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: right now, and that would be Mahomes, Russell and Rogers. 710 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: And you're taught. I mean, you're talking about two guys 711 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: that are definitely going on the Hall of Fame and 712 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: one that most likely will unless he retires tomorrow. Josh 713 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: Allen deserves a mention, but that's a very small sample size. 714 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Dak's balling, and honestly, he's the only reason why you're 715 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: even in the position that you're in, which is that 716 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: you've had a chance to win all of these games. 717 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: It would be ugly if he was playing on the 718 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: level of like twenty sixteen or seventeen. It would be 719 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: gross how bad this team would look. And know, people say, 720 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 1: you get like, oh, Dak needs a ton of talent 721 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: around him to succeed. He does have great receivers, you 722 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: know what, he doesn't have the offensive line that he's 723 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: been used to having. He's I mean, it's just isn't 724 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: what it what it was that his tackle protection isn't great. 725 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: Connor Williams is fine, but hasn't lived up to the hype. 726 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: He's got a rookie center at this point to make 727 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: all of that work. With the issues in protection that 728 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: he's had. I think he's been outstanding ball. Really. The 729 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: main thing that I would nitpick, it's not even the interceptions, 730 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: because the one at the end of the Cleveland game 731 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: you are gonna win anyway. That went out the window. 732 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: With the Odell play, and then the Seattle one, you're 733 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: just trying to make a play out of a broken situation. 734 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: The only thing that I would really nitpick Dak for 735 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: is he's got he's got to cut out the fumbles, 736 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: and some of that's on his protection, but some of 737 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: that's on him if he can clean that up. I 738 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: think the sky's the limit. Nick, you choose to uh, well, no, 739 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: I think both of them were right. I mean they 740 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: are right, and he's definitely right about the ninety you 741 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: know one and everyone else is in the sixties. Um. 742 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: But but you know what I thought Amber was going 743 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: when she said the last two games I don't know 744 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: about that last interception because it took like a Hercules 745 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: type play just to get get there. Um the interception 746 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: before the half though, was was that was a game 747 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: changing moment there for the Cowboys and that one, and 748 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Dave said the fumble another game changing play. But that's 749 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: what happens when the ball's in your hand every time, 750 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: and the fumble wasn't. I just still don't put the 751 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: fumble on him. Okay, no, I mean you're right, the 752 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: interception absolutely, but the fumble, I don't put it in 753 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: the last interception against Cleveland if you go back and 754 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: look at it, nineteen didn't help him there at Nineteen 755 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: said after the game that he thought that he put 756 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: that quit. He quit the route on that one. So uh, 757 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: he's playing out of his mind. The part that's that's 758 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: the real issue here. Is he an A plus? No, 759 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: he's not. He's an A minus. He has to be 760 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: an A plus to get by with the defense and 761 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: special teams. That's what I wrote after the game. Dave, 762 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: rob both we all talked about it in the press box. 763 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: Their offense isn't perfect and they have to be because 764 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: of what's around him. I can get give it that 765 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: all right, Let's want one other topic. I want hit 766 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: before we end the show. That was a quote yesterday 767 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: from Xavier Woods. He had some time with the media 768 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: yesterday and it's getting a lot of play. I'm gonna 769 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: read the quote to you and I want to get 770 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: your response on how you take it and what your 771 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: thoughts are. He said, And this was about effort. He said. 772 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: The effort has been good on certain plays some guys, 773 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean me included, there may be a lack, but overall, 774 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: the effort is there. We're in the NFL. You don't 775 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: expect guys to go full speed for seventy plays. That's 776 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: not possible. But we're going to push as hard as 777 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: we can. I mean, you know, you don't expect the 778 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: backside corner to go make a play on the opposite 779 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: side the whole time. That's just not possible. To be honest, 780 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: you guys agree with that, that comment from Xavier Woods. 781 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: Let's start first with you, Dave. Yeah, this is this 782 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: is tricky. I mean, as Xavier was saying it, I 783 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: was like, this isn't gonna go well for him, Like 784 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: this isn't it's it's just not And it's one of 785 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: those perception things because I I know what he meant, 786 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: and Joe Thomas actually said something similar, which is basically like, yeah, no, 787 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: if you cut on the tape, you can see the loafs. 788 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about Rod Marinelli and the loafs. 789 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: He's like, there, there are occasions where you might see loaves, 790 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: but overall, as a defense, the effort is there. And 791 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: then Xavier compounds it by saying, you know you're not 792 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: You're not going to give one hundred percent. And I 793 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: think what he meant by that was simply like nobody 794 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: is gunning all out in every moment of every play 795 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: during a game. I mean, like you all over the 796 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: league you can see that. That's true and all. Honestly, 797 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's realistic. When you talk about the 798 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: amount of energy you have to exert. The only way 799 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: you could do that is if it was like hockey 800 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: and you rotated these guys and shifts, but nobody does that. 801 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: All of this is to say, you still can't say that, man, 802 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: You just can't after that game, even if you're right, 803 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: and even if I appreciate your honesty, it's just a 804 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: really bad look after a game like that to try 805 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: to justify it. You just kind of have to keep 806 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: it to yourself. So I know what he was trying 807 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: to say, but that's just not the moment to say it. 808 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: Amber what are your thoughts. I agree with everything that 809 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: they've said, and I get perfectly what he was trying 810 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: to say with that common but it's just I guess 811 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: it's the choice of words. You know, after that game, 812 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: you don't go out and say it and say and 813 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: phrase it that way. There are better ways to say, 814 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: like you, look, man, yes, we need to try harder 815 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: and just say something different. And we all understand that 816 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: these are NFL players. We all understand that it's not 817 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: an easy job. It is tiring, and it's a lot 818 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: harder than he looks from us watching from the stands 819 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: or at home or anything like that. But at the 820 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: same time, I think it's the lack of maybe fully 821 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: taking accountability of it and rather trying to use it 822 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: excuse It's like, yes, we get it. Realistically, there is 823 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: absolutely no way you give an hundred percent effort on 824 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: every single play of a three hour game. So to me, 825 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: I get the way he meant it. I don't think 826 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: he was trying to say it in a bad way 827 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: to like justify things. But at the same time, I 828 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: think he could have used a better choice of words 829 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: and rephrase that better and just take a little bit 830 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: more of accountability. Yeah, I think they're they're exactly right. 831 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: And uh, I agree with Xavier Woods. I mean, yeah, 832 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: you don't give one hundred percent effort at the end 833 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: of the game because you don't have one hundred percent. 834 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Derek, you're a runner. I mean, you know, 835 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: the first the first mile is probably you could go 836 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: more than you could at the very end. I mean, 837 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: you just don't have it in your tank? Is it 838 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: tonight tomorrow? Whenever the Lakers play, watch watch the Lebron 839 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,959 Speaker 1: James at the end of the game. There's there's gonna 840 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: be a possession or two where he sits over in 841 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: the corner on an offense. It's just I don't have 842 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: it right now. Somebody else dribble. Shoot, I don't have 843 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: it right here to going and give that. So that's 844 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: what he's saying. Um, you know, and we we kill 845 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: these guys for not being boring sometimes and all that, 846 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: and then when they say and they're being on this, 847 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: then they get crucified for it. As well, I'll say this, 848 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 1: I wish Jalen Smith wouldn't have jumped on the pole 849 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: and grabbed the guy's face mask when he didn't have to, 850 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: when the guy was already tackled. That changed the entire game. 851 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that would have been a nice you've got 852 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: him tackled. That's good second fifteen instead of first down. 853 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: Let's change the whole game. Yeah, you know what it 854 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: reminded me of. And Nick, you'll remember this. You were 855 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: sitting there in that press conference. It was Tony Romo 856 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: after that I think it was the Eagles game. Yes, 857 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: and and he says, you know, if this is the 858 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: worst after they lost, if this is the worst thing 859 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: that ever happens to me, I will still have had 860 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: a good life. And yes, okay, you're right, there are 861 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: a lot of things that could be much worse about 862 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: your life, but it's probably not the right time to 863 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: say it, like yeah, you just don't have to say 864 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: that in those words. In that moment. Everybody knows this. 865 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean everyone that's up here. They go on the 866 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: games and the trips, and maybe not this year, but 867 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to that. And if the fans 868 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: knew just that the players don't carry their emotions like 869 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: they do all week long. They're pissed off. Trust me, 870 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: it ends in about an hour, maybe two. I don't 871 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: know by the time we get on the I mean 872 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: there's some guys that depend It depends, it depends on 873 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: the game. But yes, you're right, generally speaking, generally speaking, 874 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: though you know, sometimes you do wonder you do check 875 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: your stats when you're writing your story on the plane, 876 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: You're like, they did lose this game, right, Like maybe, 877 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: And I say that, I'm not saying that they're wrong. 878 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: They've got it in perspective. I thought Dave made a 879 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: fantastic point two days ago when you said every single 880 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: play they could not walk. Again, think about that's a 881 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: job for them. You might get paralyzed on this. I 882 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: mean hate if that happens, but it happens. So after 883 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: the end of the game and they're healthy and they're 884 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: feeling good and you know, not feeling so good. Yeah, 885 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: but but walking, Yeah, maybe they have a different perspective 886 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: than some fans do. Would be like, you should be 887 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: doing this. You shouldn't be trying to do your own brand. 888 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: You should be trying to do this. You shouldn't be 889 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: playing golf on and off that you shouldn't do all this, 890 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: you should be you know, it's not realistic. Yeah. And 891 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: the other part to it too, and this is something 892 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: I kind of came around for myself with is I 893 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: think sometimes when you when you're competing, you kind of 894 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: want to take yourself out of the moment because if 895 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: you lost, it can be all consuming. And what we 896 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: don't see is, yeah, we might see after the game 897 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: and the lock, where we might see on the plane whatever. 898 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: What we don't see is when they get home that 899 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: night and then they have to sit with themselves and 900 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: they're like man lo that you know, and then it 901 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: really eats at you. When you with your your teammates, 902 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: you can kind of deflect and you can kind of 903 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: have a little fun and kind of for a moment 904 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: almost forget about it because you know it's coming back, 905 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: and you know when they get home and by themselves, 906 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be there. Because they're competitors. You don't make 907 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: it to the NFL if you aren't a hyper competitive person. 908 00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: You can't make it in the NFL if you're not 909 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: a hyper competitive person. So I just think I think 910 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: we got to put all of that into perspective. All right, 911 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll back tomorrow. We're 912 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you guys what to expect the Sunday Cowboys 913 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: versus Giants. Still then, for Nick Eaton, Dave helm and 914 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I am Derek Eagleton. This has been the 915 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has 916 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 917 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.